WHY YOU CANT GET A RAZOR EDGE

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  • I get the same questions all the time about freehand sharpening. In this video, I address the common issues with your edges, and HOW TO FIX THEM!
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  • @kyle_noseworthy
    @kyle_noseworthy  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @grover2727
    @grover2727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    As a retired meat cutter I am very critical of these sharpening videos. Kyle is giving very good information, listen very carefully to what he is teaching. 95% of these Utube sharpening videos are complete trash. It does take time to learn this skill, but, you will use it for the duration and hopefully pass it down.

    • @nicholaspaz
      @nicholaspaz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx for commenting. Seriously accurate. I saved this video, and watched more as your comment suggested.

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean, I'm inclined to disagree with a lot of sharpening tutorials, not because I believe I know better, but rather because I attempt them and struggle to get a razor edge, despite the fact I'm reasonably dexterous and good at following directions.
      So I'd have to say, I feel like your criticism would be more helpful if you explained what exactly you take issue with in this tutorial and explained how it could be taught better. Go over what you think the most important aspects of sharpening are, even just in outline form.

    • @grover2727
      @grover2727 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DaimyoD0 Another excellent knife sharpening video is on the channel "the bearded butchers " by watching these type of professionals you learn how to get sharp edge but more important a DURABLE edge. The quality of your tools is important too. Don't spend 100's of dollars on kitchen knives, here are 2 brands who make excellent kitchen knives at very reasonable prices, Mercer and Victorinox

  • @brucefrank6119
    @brucefrank6119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    30 years ago I worked for Edge Craft and helped in the development of the Chefs Choice 2000 Pro sharpener. I built the first prototypes and later the pre-production units that were taken to the trade shows. You cover the sharpening part very well referencing information about the "wire" or "burr" edge that very few people know and even fewer understand. Let me say that if the sharpening process does not create that ever so slight wire edge, ultimate sharpness, that truly "shaving sharp" edge, cannot be accomplished. The full razor edge is accomplished not by getting rid of that wire edge, but refining it.
    A wire edge, that grabby little burr that you feel as you wipe your fingertip from the back edge of the blade towards the sharpened edge and off the sharp edge, as you said, which is weak, and fragile. The tip of that burr is actually not aligned for proper, if any, cutting. Under the microscope the burr may be rolled over resembling a fish-hook shape with the sharpest part of it at right angles to where the normal sharp edge of a knife is found. Watchers should be aware that the burr is actually EXTREMELY sharp and if you ran a finger along that burr the length of the knife, you might get aligned with at supersharp part of the burr and cut the dickens out of your finger. The sharpness can be greater that the best surgeon's scalpel and you might know your finger is cut until you see blood.
    After you finish with the 400 grit surface, you will usually have at the microscopic level, some degree of burr. Moving to the finer grit side of the stone, first contact to the edge should be should be on the side opposite the the last stroke on the 400 grit stone. And should be a draw stroke rather than a cutting stroke. This will be the first refinement move of the burr. It will un-roll the burr back to the center alignment with the blade's edge. Make several draw stokes and feel if the burr is still detectable . If it is, continue stroking that side a couple more strokes then switch to the other side of the blade. Work back and forth from one side and back checking for sharpness occasionally.
    This process has smoothed the edge of the courser scratches and reduced the height of that very sharp burr and aligned it making it the sharp edge of the blade. If you looked at the edge now under a microscope in cross-section you'd see the sides of the blade angling to converge to at the apex of the edge with a small pyramid on the top. The top point of the microscopic pyramid shape will be your very sharp edge.The squat shape of that pyramid is angled to support the sharp edge (top of the pyramid) and makes a stronger edge that will neither bend over or break off under use.
    The stropping process refines that edge even more polishing the metal to a mirror finish. This, when correctly and conservatively done will give you the true "shaving edge!" In fact, I coined that phrase for the ads in the early days. The head of the company walked into my lab as I had just finished to examining the sharpness and durability of the edges we were developing, I blurted out, "these aren't razor shark, they'er shaving sharp!" And for a while that appeared in our ads.
    Last points, if you really want to protect that edge you worked so hard to create, don't scrape the edge sideways across the cutting board, to move the cut veggies or meat into the pan regardless of what the cutting board is made of . That sideways scrape can easily and quickly rolls the sharp edge. That slight damage may be quickly repaired with just the strop.
    Knife steel is constantly being researched for strength, durability, and resistance to corrosion. If knife steel is on the softer side it resharpens quickly to a very sharp edge, but may get dull after only 4 or 5 filet processing, A harder steel may hold an edge longer. Much longer in some cases, but it will take more effort to resharpen. Knife steel that is too hard can be EXTREMELY difficult to impossible. Primary reason is that the refinement needed to that burr to sharpen to a truly shaving edge, tends to break the burr off due to inherent alloy brittleness and the work-hardening of bending that microscopic edge back and forth. Again microscopic examination of that very hard knife's edge may show rather than a smooth polished continuous wall-like edge of steel, it will resemble the blocked toothed top of the wall of King Authur's castle. . .suitable only for cutting bread.
    Avoid putting your sharp knives in the dishwasher. That supper-fine edge, even on a stainless alloy steel blade is corroded/etched by the hot water and the chemicals in the detergent.
    Avoid ever checking sharpness by running a finger down a blade even with the lightest touch. If you have done your job well, that ultra sharp, now refined, burr is the very edge that can cut you so easily that you don't feel it, or know you are cut, until you see the blood. Many of you may check sharpness by trying to shave arm hair with the blade, which when done carefully is OK, unless yo are sharpening all the knives in the kitchen in one sitting. At Edge Craft, we used squares of cow hide which sill had the hair on it. One didn't actually have to shave the hair off, but show that the blade was sharp enough to actually get a "bite" into the hairs.
    Sorry to be so verbose! Be careful!

    • @richtreinen991
      @richtreinen991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have any thoughts on the guided knife sharpening systems now available, i.e. KME, Edge Pro, Lansky, Hapstone and a half dozen others.

    • @mihugong3153
      @mihugong3153 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing information. Thank you.

    • @demezon6572
      @demezon6572 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a ton!

  • @michaeltrombino3888
    @michaeltrombino3888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very good explanation! I am 64 and have been sharpening knives since I was 8. I can sharpen ANYTHING, just about, with a rock because of not giving up and keep on keeping on. A shaving edge and a working edge are two different edges. Most people DO NOT need a shaving edge.
    Thank you for educating people! 😊

  • @MarkSwendsenSr
    @MarkSwendsenSr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    This is the first man I’ve seen to actually explain in understandable terms the what and why of making a good edge. This is a great video. His explanation of burrs and a wire edge and how to avoid them is just fabulous.

    • @sinironheart8413
      @sinironheart8413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right! Definitely agree. I left with a lot of overstanding just on the first watch.

    • @Rowgue51
      @Rowgue51 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The second point he made is just as important. Most people have no understanding that there is an inversely proportional relationship between how fine an edge you have and the life of that edge. You want a razor sharp edge on your knife, you're going to have to sharpen it fairly regularly and hone it constantly.

    • @feez357
      @feez357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rowgue51 Real butchers are the only people to really understand this. They sharpen knives several times a day.

    • @Errol.C-nz
      @Errol.C-nz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@feez357 you can't sharpen anything with any stone... you HAVE TO use a steel or strop to hone it... its like polishing your car with sandpaper... this guys a fool

    • @feez357
      @feez357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Errol.C-nz Who are you saying is a fool? Nobody said not to strop or hone.

  • @chriso9342
    @chriso9342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nice video, good information.
    I've been sharpening for going on 30 yrs and for me personally, it is more about the "sound" of the stone than the feel.
    Another good piece of info for people is to not let the edge become completely dull/rolled.
    Even though this may get some negative comments, another thing I have found is that just because a blade has an "established" edge does not mean that is the best angle for that blade even if it is a 1 degree difference.
    I would say that the majority of people own mass produced knives which are ground to a certain angle at the factory.
    Blades are as individual as the owner, 2 identical blades even from the same batch will respond differently to identical honing methods.
    Another thing I have found is that certain blades can become "too sharp" and have such a fine edge that it dulls even faster, so a good lesson is to learn when to stop honing.
    Listen to the blade/stone and they will tell you when the blade is finished.

    • @metamorphicorder
      @metamorphicorder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree, sound is just as important. Theres a sort of vibration and tone that tells you that you are doing it right.
      I 'show' people how to use a steel pretty frequently, and always tell them that im showing them and that im showing them and that they will teach themselves how to do it. You have to listen and feel to the steel to get it right.

    • @richardwebb9532
      @richardwebb9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🍻😎👍 The song of the steel.

  • @russellsansom8664
    @russellsansom8664 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kyle, I just wanted to compliment your outstanding English. It makes for a very clear and listenable presentation.

  • @davecc0000
    @davecc0000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One of the best, thorough, most patient explanations of the topic I’ve heard. You’re a natural educator.

  • @Dinehtah
    @Dinehtah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of your best videos. Well explained without getting too far "down in the weeds" Well Done!!!

  • @TheWtfnonamez
    @TheWtfnonamez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Dear lord you are genius! What you said about the shadow is critically important. I reckon one placed small flashlight on my work surface would probably teach me where Im going so badly wrong. I have watched thousands of sharpening videos and never heard this tip before. Brilliant mate!

  • @lw8882
    @lw8882 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That tip about the blade shadow is invaluable! Thankyou!

  • @timotg91
    @timotg91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You really pulled together a lot of the pieces I'm trying to learn about sharpening with your advice in this video. Explaining inconsistencies with the visual lines and the 'sharp' burr left on an unfinished blade makes the concepts clear. I appreciate your content. Thanks from Ontario!

  • @dobypilgrim6160
    @dobypilgrim6160 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    On most of my knives I use my home made 15 inch strop way more than my stones. Stropping after use is to me an efficient way to maintain a razor edge on all my knives. Plus it's way more easy on the blades in the long run. I find it relaxing.

    • @dansmolen1618
      @dansmolen1618 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fuck yeah,strop keeps the wife's lip in check too!

  • @Milkman4279
    @Milkman4279 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks Kyle, you're a good teacher. You explain things well, and you're willing to explain the same thing over and over again.

  • @trustbuster23
    @trustbuster23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Good video. I am no expert in this, although I taught myself to free-hand sharpen a few years ago. The point about patience is key. Don't rush any part of this, both the learning how to do it, and the actual process once you've learned. I find and maintain the right angle largely by feel, you can actually feel the point where you are working the edge correctly with a little practice. Just get yourself a couple of stones, and an old kitchen knife you don't care about. Practice on that thing until you get a sense of how it goes. Don't try to learn on a knife you are worried about destroying. You need to know what being "off" feels like both when the angle is too shallow and also when it is too steep. You'll likely put scratches into the face of that old knife, but that is just part of learning. Eventually, if you just do it enough, you can start to feel the difference. Do it in a quiet space with no distractions and just zen out on it.

  • @peteheisinger4603
    @peteheisinger4603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love to see a fellow Newf with something to say. Great info.

  • @otterchen
    @otterchen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One of the best explanations on sharpening knives.. passion , patience and knowledge leads to sharp edges, exactly what your video teaches . Thanks.

    • @nate2838
      @nate2838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the best presentation of information, calm, to the point, and clear. No filler.

  • @knarlygnivesandoutdoors8034
    @knarlygnivesandoutdoors8034 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    I love when you do sharpening videos, I’ve been sharpening for a couple years now and even if I’d been doing it for 20 years there’s always room for improvement, I always learn something when I watch these videos. -Kyle

    • @kyle_noseworthy
      @kyle_noseworthy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks so much bud!

    • @knarlygnivesandoutdoors8034
      @knarlygnivesandoutdoors8034 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kyle Noseworthy you’re welcome brother, it’s always a joy watching your work in action, genuinely.

    • @sharpen-up
      @sharpen-up 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. I run a sharpening service, and you really can't learn enough, as there's always tips to get it to the next level! Good job!

    • @matthewhoward4549
      @matthewhoward4549 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sharpen-up Thank you!

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been sharpening knives for 48 years. There's still room for improvement.

  • @dizocilpine
    @dizocilpine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Intuitive way of describing, i have been having problems sharpening, I didn't think to measure shadow as a way to find edge, thank you

  • @marvinbrock960
    @marvinbrock960 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re so helpful and patient, thanks Kyle for your knowledge.

  • @jackyblacky4616
    @jackyblacky4616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You know your stuff kyle, its very rare for a young bloke, please keep up the good work. Regards jack australia

  • @msvb2457
    @msvb2457 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video -- you are a skilled teacher/explainer and have a natural, relaxed presence in front of the camera. Awesome information too; I feel smarter now than I did 12 minutes ago. :)

  • @Ratlins9
    @Ratlins9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, great video with a thorough explanation of knife sharpening.

  • @MaxMeridius0920
    @MaxMeridius0920 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a new subscriber and new to free hand sharpening - thank you for your comment regarding being new and being patient - it’s a good reminder for the noob

  • @Decimator16
    @Decimator16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    great advice on the leather strop, more often than not when I sharpen finishing on a leather strop is all it needs to go from a seemingly inconsistent edge to a fantastic mirror polished hair popping edge.

    • @Enonymouse_
      @Enonymouse_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      strops don't work on all grinds

    • @Decimator16
      @Decimator16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Enonymouse_ How do you mean, like what?

  • @savyor1839
    @savyor1839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice video Kyle! You definitely know your sharpening skills! I'm a Canadian chef/lumberjack/carpenter and I love seeing other Canucks flaunt their skills on YT. Only thing you could have mentioned is the steel itself, and how it relates to sharpness and edge-keeping. Basically, harder steel will be more difficult to sharpen, but hold its edge longer, and softer steel will sharpen up quickly, but lose its edge just as readily.
    Don't listen to the rumours about your accent dude! Your perfectly understandable for a BC native.
    Ps: I dislike angle holders mounted on the back of the blade while sharpening, because they DESTROY polishing stones!

  • @mowater1
    @mowater1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You ! Your Wisdom and Experience shine through. Education could not have been more interesting and beneficial. Keep up the Great work and awesome videos. Doc. C

  • @ssgtdolan
    @ssgtdolan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You made a great point at the end regarding unrealistic ideas about how long a knife will retain that razor edge. I've sharpened knives to such a fine edge you can whittle a hair but it never lasts very long. I have three faithful edc knives that I rotate so I dont have to resharpen every couple days. They get pretty hard use as part of my job. Good video!

  • @oldjoeclarke.
    @oldjoeclarke. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good to see a real sharpening video for a change that has the correct info, you freehand the same way as I do with the pressure and the edge leading finish. The final strop is just a magical moment that transfers all the work into a perfectly refined edge. Many forums have posts against the strop bragging that they can finish on a stone and that's it, do not underestimate the power of good stropping technique.
    I run 3 strops (actually I have loads of paddle strops) mainly, Flesh side with green, flesh side clean and grain side clean. The first one will save you getting the stones out and touch up the edge better than you might think and the other 2 are used after the stones flesh then grain. Good job...

  • @jagers4xford471
    @jagers4xford471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    That fine burr on the edge is known as an arris edge, in cabinetmaking parlance , a very sharp chisel, knife or razer has it's beginnings with an arris edge. The technique of rolling the arris edge over, where you take a strop or the palm of your hand, moving the edge of the tool side to side until the arris or fine wire edge is broken off. Once the arris has been relieved, go over the edge once again with a very fine stone to bring back a much stronger edge, known as a bolstered edge. This will last 4x longer then the arris edge would. Also during the process of stropping, that fine arris wire is bent back and forth enough times to brake off. Seen under a microscope, a bolstered edge has two distinct angels if done right. Thanks for a great video.

    • @jasonwood7340
      @jasonwood7340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, I will try this the next time I am sharpening a chisel or plane iron. Thanks for the info!

    • @KR8TZ
      @KR8TZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Check you out,smarty pants!!!

    • @brianbartulis9709
      @brianbartulis9709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's where I got confused years ago. Some old timer spoke of bringing(rolling) an edge over...arris as you said. And he sounded as patience to go straight to what you called a bolstered edge.
      Heck, I can get arris edge on a putty knife using a 10" bastard file. (parts of my job was scraping Huge SS tanks, parts) ...removed by running along some piece of wood. ~ I learned to back off and my edge did last longer.
      ~~ Crazy them tank cleaning jobs. Say 1/4 of my time was resharpening, but I could clean tanks thrice as quick as many others. Thanks Jager. My minds eye pictured the burr breaking off and not as sharp even though it would shave my arm.

    • @anthonysullivan7871
      @anthonysullivan7871 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you Potato?

    • @yellowdog762jb
      @yellowdog762jb 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. I'm going to try that!

  • @buddyx6
    @buddyx6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He is correct it takes practice and attention to detail. I finally just bought a work-sharp with the sandpaper belts and it has a guide on it! Still use the leather and the stones also. Good vid!
    "KEEP ON KEEPIN ON"!

  • @davidmarshall7752
    @davidmarshall7752 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips, I learned more in 3 minutes than in years of 'sharpening'. Most insightful sharpening videos I've ever seen.

  • @andrewwalsh9540
    @andrewwalsh9540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is the first video of yours I've watched, and I have to say I was absolutely thrilled to see the NFA No Compromise logo being represented. Also enjoyed the video and learned a few things. Keep up the good work Sir. 😎

  • @robrobinson1343
    @robrobinson1343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good vocabulary with excellent explanations of techniques.

  • @jshphysicistatyahoo
    @jshphysicistatyahoo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Kyle Noseworthy - Thank you so much. You explained so much with your shadow example and your cross-sectional drawing and not underestimating the stropping. Now I must decide on how to start my sharpening stone collection. Again, excellent video. Thanks a million!

    • @kyle_noseworthy
      @kyle_noseworthy  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Naniwa Superstone's are an awesome stone to buy! 400 grit, 1000 grit, and 3000 grit is the PERFECT setup to begin. Later, you could invest in something finer than a 3000 grit. Say, a 5-6000 :-)

  • @8lazingSaddles
    @8lazingSaddles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the great video. It helped me, along with looking at the edge with a powerful magnifying glass, to hone my sharpening skills.

  • @luciousbrun5437
    @luciousbrun5437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent Kyle, thank you very much. I learned two important things: patience through grit increments, and a strop - outstanding. Cheers.

  • @danndyandy
    @danndyandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I've been sharpening since i was a kid. I do it for a living now. One thing I've noticed through out the years, and i heard it in this video too. When you've got your angle and you're in the zone, your stone will sing to you. Listen to the steel and the stone together. When you hear it sing, that's when the best edge is produced.

    • @olafjensen4508
      @olafjensen4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My brother Ralf could sharpen. Never ever got the hang of it. Tried to emulate him. I think it's in the blood natural. Like a musician who is good

    • @fockoff
      @fockoff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finally some professionnal comment. Thanks. I was thinking about leaving a comment saying draw a picture and dude is actually drawing while i'm writing this.. 🤷🏻‍♂️ the better sharpener doesn't use his eyes .

    • @olafjensen4508
      @olafjensen4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish I could. I just can't

    • @danndyandy
      @danndyandy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't is not an action. Remove that from your head. You can. Ok so you might have to work on it a little harder than others, but you can do this.

    • @olafjensen4508
      @olafjensen4508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@danndyandy Yeah. I can get a reasonable edge but not razor

  • @NickDDDD
    @NickDDDD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Kyle - I'm a beginner sharpener, you highlighted alot of the sharpening stone pitfalls & clarified a several misconceptions. A helpful starting point. Excellent. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

  • @leviwofford828
    @leviwofford828 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video, you do a very good job at explaining a dying art. I had an old boy one time tell me about stropping on a rolled magazine. It works great if you do not have a strop to start or want to finish an edge on the fly.

  • @vallhallamedia3161
    @vallhallamedia3161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would add the angle of the edge also impacts how long it can retain a "sharp" edge for, example a chef's knife tends to be a steeper angle than something like a bushcraft knife with a Scandinavian grind on it so will be sharper but require more maintenance to keep it that way, but the angles will depend on what you use your knife for. Just an extra thing to take in to consideration when sharpening and maintaining your knife and may help with expectations of the life of the edge you put on.
    Great video my friend thank you for sharing your extensive knowledge with us.

    • @fredmotz7095
      @fredmotz7095 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree however I just received a new USMC Kay-bar and it came with a 20 deg edge. In the suck Kay-bars have a specific purpose but I always considered it to be a bush knife. This knife came with a “ laser grind” edge and is sharp as heck and will take a finger with no hesitation. Working on my sharpening skills to keep it that way but was thrown by the steep angle of the knife edge.

  • @williamprendergast6510
    @williamprendergast6510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Excellent video my friend,you give great advice,just subbed and I'll slowly make my way through your Vids.Stay safe.

  • @robertfoster2988
    @robertfoster2988 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad I found your channel very informative and well put together

  • @IrieFabs
    @IrieFabs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After watching a couple of american youtubers I am so happy I stumbled upon your channel. The moment you introduced yourself in your warm, polite and modest way, just saying that you just want to share your knowledge, you got my thumbs up. After your smart and hands-on advice with the distance of finger under the blade you got one more subscriber. You got social skills and give great explainations - please stay that way! Greetings from Germany :)

  • @PaulK390S90V
    @PaulK390S90V 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 great tips I've gotten for burrs too, a flashlight shining on the edge on both sides and if there is any burr it will scream back at you with reflection, and the second if you do your paper cut both right handed and left. With a burr you may get it to slice paper clean going one way while the other way will get caught. Great video, keep up the good work!

    • @kyle_noseworthy
      @kyle_noseworthy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both of those techniques work, although may take a little more time and effort than just being able to feel the burr with your finger.

    • @PaulK390S90V
      @PaulK390S90V 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kyle_noseworthy Ya I agree. Just a couple tips for people just starting. I know its really easy to miss areas with feeling with your fingers, where a quick check with a small flashlight you can see instantly. Even a small headlamp! You can even see tiny burrs that you may not even be able to feel. The paper cutting was just to touch on what you said about having a burr and still cutting paper smooth, but if.you were to cut the other side you would feel it on the paper. And of course sharpie on your bevel to see if your at the right angle. But all of these tips you will eventually not need when you get good at it. You can use your eyes and fingers and feel. Practice makes perfect right

  • @stefanbogner6237
    @stefanbogner6237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I lately tried out a guided sharpening system, I realized how easy you get knifes sharp through holding a consistent angle (and a bit of time, of course). Thanks for making those points easily clear in a precise AND very polite manner.

  • @davidknighton7478
    @davidknighton7478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the same stones because of your video and found them to make such a difference in getting a good edge. Great info.

  • @hando5745
    @hando5745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have watched tons of videos how to sharpen but this Video Really shows you how to sharpen your blade step by step it’s like (Sharpening for Dummies) that would be Me Excellent Tutorial Kyle Noseworthy

  • @kutzbill
    @kutzbill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Some how, I ended up with my Uncle old Scythe. You can see the Damascus steel on the edge. When it got worn away, he would take it over to the forge, and weld some old file, or whatever steel he had to keep the tool going.
    I also got his big forge, 3 feet by 5 feet and at least one inch thick cast iron. Now I am keeping an eye out for a suitable anvil.
    Scythes are supposed to be sharpened about every 15 minutes of use when cutting. They are much faster than a weed wacker.
    My Uncle used to cut about 10 acres of wheat with the old scythe, but it is so great seeing the different layers on it.
    Thanks for the info. I used to build some molds, and I have the polish from that field. It works great on a strop.
    Smiles!

  • @theelusivewoodlandhobo5348
    @theelusivewoodlandhobo5348 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only ever use stone to sharpen perhaps the first time I receive the blade or if the blade gets damaged...97% of the time I just use the strop and the finest compound I can find....It gives me a polished edge an edge with a mirror finish that is crazy sharp... thanks Kyle

  • @rms--ryder71
    @rms--ryder71 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Kyle, that was very informative and I agree with you that there is "no substitute for experience".

  • @SuperBollox123
    @SuperBollox123 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was incredibly helpful, thanks. Using the finger as a guide and continuously checking the angle immediately improved my edges, I was also moving through the grits too quickly. Great video, keep it up.

  • @davidhalldurham
    @davidhalldurham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative video, Kyle. I learned a lot and I'm subscribing.

  • @benandsylvia
    @benandsylvia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Finally, a Canadian!
    And an east coaster at that. I'm sharpening my own stuff for over 30 years and i can't say enough about the strop !
    You hit the nail on the head.
    1) Proper stones.
    2) Proper angle back and forth.
    3) Take your time. It's not a race. Learn to like it. Make yourself comfortable;music, whiskey, cigar,whatever.
    4) Strop Strop Strop.
    You don't have to spend a lot of money to buy one. You can glue a piece of leather 2 the back of a board. Experiment with different kinds of leather just a small piece 12 in Long 4 inches wide that should do it. A little bit of Carpenter's glue and roll it down tight. If you take your time with that leather you can actually shave depending on the knife. My test is on my left arm. If I can actually shave the hair on my left arm then it's good enough for me. And yes my left arm is practically bald going to have to start shaving the coin purse soon.

  • @divane1171
    @divane1171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the info, no other channels go into the detail with regards to what happens to the edge when switching grits. Nothing like taking care of a gorgeous knife.

  • @hughsutherland500
    @hughsutherland500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial! I now know how to properly sharpen blades. Thanks for the education. You rock !

  • @sonnyboywannabe
    @sonnyboywannabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Strop/hone regularly after sharpening. Maybe after every half hour of use. Will help keep the edge super sharp

  • @willieboy3011
    @willieboy3011 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Good information and polite presentation.

  • @rocschmidt4863
    @rocschmidt4863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched a lot of videos about sharpening knives and this is the first one I've come across that explains the knife angle. Tilting the blade up slowly until the shadow disappears. That part right there made it for me. Before the video was over, I grabbed a knife and a stone and ran the knife over the stone in the way he described. It was like I was given the golden key to knife sharpening. I have never been able to sharpen a knife by hand and get the results that would make me happy. Until now,

  • @TysoniusRex
    @TysoniusRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for this video! I think I'm finally figuring out that while many people (including yourself!) make sharpening a knife look quick and easy--it's a learned skill that takes a LOT of practice. So, back to it for me, AND I think I'm going to look a lot closer at my stones, because I certainly don't have anything with the fine grain that you do!

  • @PeeexFishing
    @PeeexFishing 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The shadow tip is very helpful Cheers

  • @andrewposa447
    @andrewposa447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love it. Most important statement made "Take some pride in your work".

  • @crazyhillbilly2181
    @crazyhillbilly2181 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I got my Mora Eldris, I had know idea how to approach a scandi grind. Thanks for helping me get that "scary" sharp edge, brother Kyle.

  • @petermcgrory5267
    @petermcgrory5267 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate your time and talent, Kyle.

  • @willk5413
    @willk5413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great video! One other thing I found helpful, when I was learning, was using a marker to "paint" the edge, so I had an accurate idea of what part of the bevel I was actually sharpening.

    • @kyle_noseworthy
      @kyle_noseworthy  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, some people like that little trick!

    • @John..18
      @John..18 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kyle_noseworthy
      I think it's the most valuable tip there is, for anyone trying to sharpen a blade,,

    • @reginaldthomas6
      @reginaldthomas6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video was well done. And full of simply explained tips, and tools.
      Thanks

  • @anthonyyates9604
    @anthonyyates9604 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really informative, thank you... I sharpen both on my stones and belts. I get a better edge on my belts, but I think that may be from a lack of practice with the stones.

  • @madstrik3r
    @madstrik3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've watched a lot of videos on this subject, nevertheless I got in love specifically in mora garberg, I found that scandi grind is very easy to find an angle and learn to sharp freehand on stones. So I just went and bought my first serious knife with scandi blade and I'm more than satisfied from what I learned and how I got good into this.

  • @ellipsiswellbeing1691
    @ellipsiswellbeing1691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect - very helpful advice, as I’ve been struggling to get good results. Thanks!

  • @untiedwedanst
    @untiedwedanst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Once you've gotten as close as you can get to the angle of the established edge, from there you can use the sound and the feel of the vibration to tune into the sweet spot of the angle of attack that you want.
    The other trick is that you need to match the abrasion on both sides, -you can either reverse the motion with the same hand, or, so long as you're establishing the skill anyways, might as well learn the mirror image of the motions with your non dominant hand.

  • @davidslefort6541
    @davidslefort6541 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One thing I learned the hard way is you need to be careful mindful and most of all be patient with skills that he shows here

  • @kevinohara8529
    @kevinohara8529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I had to learn a thing or two about sharpening once I picked up some woodworking chisels and hand planes. You don't get good results with those tools unless you bring your edges to a proper bevel!
    I still use a guide with my chisels and plane irons (because it's easier and the single bevels are just so much wider than your typical knife), but I freehand just a few swipes on the 8000 grit stone to get a secondary micro-bevel and get rid of any remaining burr. I am able to get wood shavings just a few thousandths thick afterward. It's a good feeling. As for knives, I freehand them 100%. I like to take friend's knives to show them what sharp REALLY means, and they love it. I haven't even started stropping to hone yet, because I've been too lazy to put the on-hand materials together. But I will soon have a couple of oiled vegetable leather strops. I plan on using some buffing compound on one (green?), then Tormek polishing paste on the second.

  • @ninjawes07
    @ninjawes07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video, thanks for the links too. Helps us beginners find our way.

  • @millbankbagsusa2037
    @millbankbagsusa2037 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Good information Kyle, especially about stropping. I could not believe how much sharper my knives were after sharping with a short time on the strop. I use black compound first then go to the green. ray, Oklahoma

    • @e.t.preppin7084
      @e.t.preppin7084 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Millbank Bags USA just a tip go from black to white and you might just forget about the green unless you just like seeing yourself in the edge 😂

    • @ssgtdolan
      @ssgtdolan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not all stroping compounds are created equal. Sometimes different colors correspond to to different grit levels sometimes they don't. There are stropping pastes that are as fine as .01 micron (maybe finer for all I know). Anyway, the color isn't necessarily the benchmark but knowing how rough or fine of a paste you have is.

    • @millbankbagsusa2037
      @millbankbagsusa2037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ssgtdolan Your correct

  • @Spornteloop
    @Spornteloop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video ...thank you! This was hands down the best video on sharpening I've seen. I'm learning this skill and this was a huge help.....you rock!

  • @unklstepbilly
    @unklstepbilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to mark my blade with a sharpie marker to indicate my progress as well. Great video. You explain it well.

  • @mikeb1841
    @mikeb1841 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well...that may of been one of the best videos on blade sharpening ever. Thank you!!!!

  • @JAKESEABLACK
    @JAKESEABLACK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You are the Bob Ross of knife sharpening, Great job!

    • @johnd48
      @johnd48 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remember to make your edges, happy edges. And that little burr right there, that'll be our secret

  • @davysharp3254
    @davysharp3254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Flat stones are great round rod ceramics are excellent for finest edges . maybe try the shadow trick with flashlight it really shows up well .also by slowly and carefully running your thumbnail on each side the blade it will help determine where problem spots occur. Keep it Sharp

    • @thomaschongs3456
      @thomaschongs3456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I notice the difference between different types of steel when shaping but some just aren't good at holding an edge.

    • @kruse8888
      @kruse8888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You dont sharpen your knife with a ceramic honing rod, all you do is straighten the edge made using the stone.

    • @kruse8888
      @kruse8888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aragon Farseer
      Titanium knifes are a gimmick. I got two, used them a couple of times but they were crap. Imho, nothing beats VG10.

    • @byrum63
      @byrum63 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the thumbnail trick. It helped me on the first knife after this video!

  • @TheCjonmaui
    @TheCjonmaui 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best and most honest video I have ever seen thanks!!

  • @sillykicker0877
    @sillykicker0877 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Kyle, thanks for the info. I just ordered the items you recommended to take care of my knifes at home.

  • @dannpd1955
    @dannpd1955 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you sir for a great presentation and much good advise. Im sure never to old to learn a trick or two on sharpening.

  • @survivalist9818
    @survivalist9818 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought these awhile back super nice stone. Togiharu Two-Sided Sharpening Stone #1000 & #3000

  • @davidrobins4025
    @davidrobins4025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the Newfoundland accent. I spent five years in Corner Brook and had started to learn to detect where a person lived in Newfoundland by their accent. 45 years later that "skill" is completely gone. Great instruction on knife sharpening. It really is an art.

  • @Biz0561
    @Biz0561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job Kyle! Your demonstration was excellent.

  • @allansmith6140
    @allansmith6140 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good to see someone that doesn't use gadgets to sharpen knives. I do think however that people generally concentrate too much on getting "razor edges" when they should really be concentrating on perfecting general knife sharpening. If you know how to sharpen a knife then getting a razor edge is nothing more than spending extra time on it. I also think that putting razor edges on knives is considered more important than it actually is, there usually isn't a need for it, in fact none of my knives have razor edges on them, but mind you they will cut you with just the slightest accidental tap. The only time I put a razor edge on a knife is when someone asks me to sharpen their knife because they don't know how. Then I will do it to show them what can be achieved with just your hands and no gadgets. I consider putting a razor edge on my knives to be a waste of time as the edge will last no longer than an edge I have spent a third of the time on and it will not cut more material before needing a touch up than a regular edge. Also, it depends on what I am going to be cutting with a knife on what sort of an edge I will put on it. On freshly killed game I prefer a rougher edge as it cuts better through rubbery warm meat. On my cheap kitchen knives I don't bother with stones, I run them against a smallish slow running wheel on one of my grinders and touch them up with a steel or porcelain rod when needed, I can get through a dozens knives in about two minutes using a grinder. Do I recommend this? No. You do have to know what you are doing when using a grinder to sharpen knives, a little goes a long way. As for how I tell at what angle to hold a knife against a stone when sharpening, its not even something I think about, I know just by looking at the knife against the stone what is correct for that particular knife. Sharpening knives is an art form and it takes practice to get proficient, there is no other way around it. Yes you can show someone how to best go about it but in the end its practice and lots of it. You can tell someone how to ride a bike but they will never learn unless they ride the bike themselves and fall off a few times. Learn to use a steel or porcelain rod (get full size rods not these gimmicky pocket things) to maintain your knives between sharpens, it saves a lot of time and your knives will also last longer. There is a reason why you always see butchers using them.

  • @EagleJim62
    @EagleJim62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Great content. Your videos helped me get started freehand sharpening. I'm probably about a C+ student at this point, so more sharpening videos are appreciated. Would like to hear your thoughts on edge angles, such as your preferred angles and maybe some reasons why. Keep up the great content.

    • @desertrainfrog1691
      @desertrainfrog1691 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree on the angles. A video on that would be nice.

    • @kyle_noseworthy
      @kyle_noseworthy  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Great idea. I may get to that. Thanks!

    • @evanm.7161
      @evanm.7161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      to sharpen existing knives, I always like to just use the original geometry that the knife had on it. could be 15 degrees, could be 25- but you ll be able to tell by just putting it against your stone

  • @davidcanaday7775
    @davidcanaday7775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been sharpening for a few years, I learned a few things today. Thank you. I never finish on cutting strokes. I'm going to try it tonight. I cut cardboard all day had no idea it had clay in it. I figured something was in it because I get my knife plenty sharp but it last a few weeks and I'm back sharpening again.

  • @13Voodoobilly69
    @13Voodoobilly69 ปีที่แล้ว

    This guy is a great teacher.

  • @rileycoppicus1128
    @rileycoppicus1128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    tanks for the tips b'y
    great channel representing our east coast :)

  • @nathanneal8987
    @nathanneal8987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great Video! You've definitely got a passion and it shows. Keep up the good work.

  • @trev815
    @trev815 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I must say i use a sharpmaker to maintain my knives but over years i hav learned to free hand to a pretty good standard , i always found it quite calming breaking the stones out ! Unfortunately life kids and a dog put oay to that happening much nowadays.

  • @streetgliderichie9724
    @streetgliderichie9724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kyle, thanks for the video. I learned a lot. Now I might be able to actually sharpen my knives! Thanks again for sharing.

  • @jcnme2020
    @jcnme2020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely Excellent video Brother. Thank You Sir.

  • @SuperSkinnymoose
    @SuperSkinnymoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You'd make a great tutor. Excellent explanation and useful tips

  • @4216dejackso
    @4216dejackso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. The leather stroop made a huge difference in my newly sharpened knifes.😁

  • @robertanderson2285
    @robertanderson2285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video! Lots of good information, presented well. I'm a Tool and Diemaker, and never have seen the subject explained so well.

  • @thesaint8400
    @thesaint8400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Mate, as someone from Belfast, I find your Newfie accent absolutely fascinating

    • @toomuch9762
      @toomuch9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They speak irish there

    • @thesaint8400
      @thesaint8400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@toomuch9762 Where?

    • @toomuch9762
      @toomuch9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Saint in Newfoundland. Though not as much today as they did in the past

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival2064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent explanation of sharpening love the no compromise poster on wall 👍🏻

  • @kodyarocho4618
    @kodyarocho4618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant. I bought a 600/1500 Japanese whetstone and wasnt producing the results I wanted
    I will return to it with your tips in mind. Thank you!

  • @Trendsetta89
    @Trendsetta89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is a great explanation on how sharpening works i like getting information from different pro because they all have slightly different ideas and techniques to do things. That was a great job when you drew the blade diagram with the scratches really give a better idea of whats going on.