Story 1. Hell no. You see a kid around another adult, you ask if it's theirs. That lady was trying to steal that baby. There's no way it was a mistake.
Possibly an opportunist OR she was sincere in her misunderstanding; betrayed by community or generational conditioning that men don’t do anything domestic or tend to their kids. Her melt-down suggests the latter.
Many yrs ago, my husband was in the front garden when a little girl came along the path crying, he wouldn’t even go to her because of what someone might say. He called for me and I walked her back along the path asking where her mum and dad were. She( roughly 2-3) said she didn’t know. At that moment a neighbour came running. She was the girl’s aunt, they all had been going to a nearby park and the girl had turned back before they had noticed. I’ve also been places where I helped kids but I shout out does anyone know this kid and obviously wouldn’t leave without the child being ok with the adult.
I'm not sure it was intentional. How many child snatchers stick around outside of the scene of the crime bawling instead of booking it in case someone calls the police on them? I think she was just stupid and very lucky things went as well for her as they did.
@@meh2510maybe, but I don't think so. Normally ppl don't just sneak up & grab a stroller. ur right, ppl don't generally hang around the scene of an attempted crime. However, she may not have been planning to go out & take a child. But if she is childless for whatever reason & is desperate for a child or possibly just lost a child of her own, it's possible that she just acted out of desperation or on instinct. Then when it was all said & done & she came to her senses, she had a meltdown over it in the parking lot. Regardless, she SHOULD NOT have put her hand on that stroller
Story 1 was absolutely an abduction attempt! If that lady thought he worked there, she should have said something right off the bat instead of trying to take the child away from an employee who could help.
First story: I totally get where that dad is coming from. When I was a stay at home father (yes, we exist), I used to get side-eyed everywhere my daughter and I went. People always assumed that a father couldn’t possibly be out with their daughter alone.
I feel ya. In the 90s, I got laid off due to company downsizing and jobs were few and far between. Luckily, my ex wife had her job and we limped thru it. For almost a year, I was a stay at home dad. I really enjoyed it! I was a machinist and I put in a lot of hours and missed a lot of family time. That year was the most enjoyable year of my entire life!
I know your pain. Since my husband retired from the military, I am finally able to pursue my own career full time. That means he's responsible for dealing with school stuff for the kids. Somehow, (maybe it has to do with living in the heavily misogynistic South), the district can't seem to wrap their heads around that. After several years of telling them "Call [his number], not me!", I still get calls and texts. Ironically, our daughter gave me a confused look when I told her last night, "your dad is busy right now. Maybe I can help with your math homework?" Goes to show, expectations are a thing. When people get what they don't expect, it turns their whole world upside-down!
There is nothing wrong with being a stay at home father. As a person who was raised by a single father we appreciate you. Others might not see it but us kids really do love you and love what you do for us.
My daughter was about 4 months old. I took her out in her stroller, or buggy as we call it here to meet up with my sister for tea. I left my siisyer with my daughter to imbibe in a disgusting habit, but i was within sight. Next thing i know is some woman, and her older daughter are trying to grab the buggy. I run over screaming at them. She says, you are not fit to be a parent, i saw you walk away from your child so you could have a cigarette. My sisyer had been squatting down to speak and play with my daughter, and she had been knocked over by this woman. When i asked her what she had planned to do, she told me she would simply take my daughter home and raise her! Well the police where called, and i had her charged with attempted kidnapping, backed up by dozens of witnesses and CCTV. The security told me nothing would come of it, because SHE WAS WELL KNOWN TO THEM FOR THE SAME THING BUT MEANT NO HARM!!!!
I meant no harm when I took the kids I babysat and their friends to the park. Claiming that you intend to kidnap a child from it's birth parent IS harmful. Especially when someone decides to use violence to keep their child safe
"Meant no harm" doesn't apply here: she knew the parent was there, obviously knew she had no right to do what she did, and proceeded anyway, inflicting distress. I'd certainly follow up (as you did) to make sure that that feigned innocence didn't get her out of a conviction, though it sounds like she needed psychological help more than jail time.
@@ryukaze7392 In that case I would have called the local police commissioner, and raised hell about the officers allowing a known kidnapper to still be out, despite having multiple complaints about kidnapping laid against her, and how the local PD are aiding and abetting her.
RE #3: Ages ago, back in the early 90's, I worked at a now-defunct major department store attached to a local mall. We had a large toy section near the mall entrance and people constantly left their kids there to amuse themselves while mommy was shopping. One very long Saturday, I had just spent three hours straightening and putting back together a toy department that looked like it had been hit by an F5 tornado. As I put the last item on a shelf and prepared to toss out my trash bag, some lady stopped by with her kids. She told them to stay in the toy section while she was shopping and she would see them in a while. I was exhausted and couldn't hold my tongue. I said to her, "Just so you know, I charge $5 per kid per hour for babysitting!!" She didn't say a word, just grabbed her kids and left. I hate inconsiderate people like that!!
Many years ago, I worked as a manager at B. Dalton Booksellar. Had a guy come yell at me that he had left his daughter in our children's books to read while he shopped at the rest of the mall and now she wasn't there and why didn't I watch her. I told him this was a retail store and not a daycare.
We had the public library move into the shopping centre, which was so handy, but it only lasted about 2 years there before they built a new library away from the centre, as some parents would drop the kids off & do shopping, despite having signs saying not to do so.
Did you ever find out what happened to her? Please say she was just in another part of the store or the mall cops had already picked her up or something. This is going to haunt me.
The first story reminded me of when I was at a Japanese fair some years back; I heard a little girl crying, and waited to see if anyone would give their attention to her, but people just walked past her. So, I asked what was wrong, and she said she couldn't find her mother; I asked which way she saw her mother go, she pointed, and I walked her in that direction until we saw this woman coming towards us. When the girl pulled away to run towards her, I stopped, and her mother thanked me profusely. So, always check, then take action if needed. Don't just jump into it.
Self absorbed parents thinking that store/restaurant employees will care for their kid while in the shop is rather common. I used to volunteer at a charity shop and a m0r0nic Karen left her 4 year old kid in the shop, near the kid toys/books, while she left to get her hair done. The poor kid was terrified at being left alone and we had to call the cops. Turned out the kid's grandparents were regulars, but they couldn't look after their grandchild due to a hospital appointment and their son was away on a business trip. The grandfather had to leave his wife alone in the hospital and come to collect his granddaughter. Just as the granddad got there and was talking to the cops, the mother came back and was screaming at me for not "looking after her kid". My manager shouted back that we weren't a babysitting service and the granddad called his son who screamed at his (soon to be ex as he divorced her over this) wife for abandoning their kid for a hair appointment.
Story 5: I really hope that family double checked to make sure nothing was missing. If that Karen was that determined to steal a spot, she's probably not above stealing personal belongings.
I wound have called the cops and claimed some of her things were mine. She already moved their stuff and there are witnesses so she’s already in a bad light, just make things more difficult on her.
Story 1 - OP shouldn’t feel guilty about protecting his own daughter from a stupid woman who was trying to snatch his baby away from him. He was being a good parent. That lady was very very lucky that all she got was yelled at because there are places that would NOT take too kindly to anyone touching someone else’s child.
Possibly an opportunist OR she was sincere in her misunderstanding; betrayed by community or generational conditioning that men don’t do anything domestic or tend to their kids. Her melt-down suggests the latter.
ur right he shouldn't feel guilty at all. Even if what she said was true, which I highly doubt I believe she intended to kidnap that child, that is not how u go about it. You ask the person if it's their child, u don't just grab a stroller & walk away. My mom is the most passive person I've ever known in my over 40yrs of life & she's also the strongest person I've ever known, she has always been able to handle anything life dealt her, but she's always said the one thing she knows she couldn't handle is if she were to lose any of her children. So, as passive as she is had someone done that to me or my siblings, after she put her hand on our stroller she likely would've gotten her arm back sans hand. In that moment I think my mom would've turned into a lion or bear. She's just as protective now with her grandchildren
Story 2: The breakup is just hosing the wound of embarrassment with saltwater. This is why you NEVER cut someone off, because you could end up digging your own grave
1st story: if that had been my dad, that lady might have been put into a headlock. My dad’s a Vietnam Vet and no one messes with his family. My mom is a mama bear and that lady probably would have been hurt if it was my mom. My mom has auburn hair, which is a shade of red. Never mess with a red head.
Story 4 - Also, how did she get out from being locked in? Store doors don't come with finger latches on the inside to unlock/lock the door - they are keyed both sides. Even if she somehow got the door to open or used some fire exit, the alarm system would have gone off resulting in police and/or fire coming running. Or, did she stay in the gym all night, leave without saying anything, go home, and wait until afternoon to call threatening to sue? Nah. I think she was just nuts.
Story 1: Anyone who thinks she was just mistaken ignores the fact that 1) if she'd thought the dad was an employee, then she would have asked him to help her find the child's parents (like a normal person would) and 2) she'd snuck up on them and was quietly wheeling the stroller away. Just because she was still outside the store, bawling away, afterwards as OP was walking by doesn't mean it wasn't, at the very least, a crime of opportunity for a woman who might've been unable to conceive a child, or had lost a child. You can feel sympathy for her, but that sympathy flow gets cut off the moment she imposes her issues onto the lives of others, complete strangers.
Story 1. When my son was 3, he went through a phase where he thought it was hilarious to escape from me in public. One time we were with a friend and her grandkids at chandler fashion center to play in their play place. After about an hour my friend wanted to go to the food court. I went with her so we could sit and chat. I had my two kids, my son 3 1/2 and my daughter 1 1/2, in a double stroller. They were both strapped in but my son had learned how to unbuckle the belt. We were sitting and chatting when my son jumped out of the stroller and ran off. I quickly followed, leaving my daughter with my friend, and he ran into an actual restaurant that was next to the food court. I took an alternate path thinking I could cut him off but the way I went was a dead end and the way he took circled back around to the entrance, so that wasn't a wise decision. by the time I made it back to the entrance he was nowhere to be seen. I looked for him for 5 minutes and then went to security to ask for help. I didn't want to take chances in such a public place with so many people around. Anything could happen to him. After giving a description to security, they asked me to return to the food court in case he was back over there. As I was walking back, I was scouring the crowds looking for my son. As I walked down the concourse on the left of the area where the kiosks line up in the middle, I saw a man on the right side a long way down the concourse from me waving and trying to get my attention. When he saw he had my attention he pointed imperatively in front of himself. and I saw my son running down the right side of the concourse disappear behind one of the kiosks as he jogged along having the time of his life. I darted between kiosks and caught him as he tried to turn and run the other way when he noticed me. I never spoke to that man, but I'll always be grateful to him. I think he saw my son escaped and just followed him discreetly because how else would he have known he was my child? The point I'm making is he followed him and didn't grab him. After that I started taking pictures of my kids every time we left the house so I could show it to security when they inevitably ran off. It was a super stressful time until I finally got them to stop doing it. My daughter would join him in his little adventures, but she didn't have the same penchant for shenanigans as her brother. Yes, I ended up being one of those parents with their kid on a leash. People who are judgmental about that don't understand that your child's safety has to come first at all times. Having my kid wear a harness with a leash is better than having my child be abducted or hit by a car. They hid in one of those ball towers at the grocery store one time. Absolutely ridiculous. I think the running off phase lasted about 1 1/2 to 2 years.
My son was like that. We lived in the country, and many's the dawn when we would wake up to the sound of the screen door slamming, and before we could put on enough clothes to be presentable he was off over the hayfields. He was best friends with a pack of dogs, who welcomed him as one of their own, but you approached them on full alert.
She's going to be 30 in Oct but when my granddaughter was 3 at Toledo Zoo, while looking at the giraffes 🦒 she saw a kiosk stand behind us, selling glass prisms! Giraffes are cool & putting leaves on those long tongues is really cool But nothing beats the rainbow light shining out from a prism to a 3 year old 😮!!! It only took about two or four minutes to find her but it felt like hours! From the first time he saw a kid on a leash, my husband said Never Ever!!! Bought one after that trip to Toledo ❤!!! Never needed one with our 3 kids, they knew if they did something like this kid did all of the time to his mom, that next time, they got left at home! But it's harder to discipline a grand😂!!! I have 5 & the 4th one is 20 next year & I haven't lost one yet😊! But the youngest is 11 though...lol
Story 3 - I’m wondering if this man would have behaved the same way to an actual male employee. If he would have assumed that a male staff member should be supervising HIS child. The level of entitlement is off the scale. He’s the type of person who believes as soon as a woman enters his space, any and all parenting responsibilities automatically default to her.... because, you know....she’s a woman 😂
It *is* weird how the most aggressive duckheads are always calmer when they're faced with someone their own size. It must really suck to be a small woman in retail *and* be prohibited from using pain compliance techniques.
There are countless stories of women abducting children, either on their own or in cahoots with another abductor. It is so many kinds of wrong to assume kids are "safe" just because the intended babysitter has two legs instead of three. I'm honestly not sure which is worse: the misogyny in assuming all women are childcare providers, or the endangerment in assuming all women can be entrusted with your children. Probably the latter, but they're both terrible.
Story One: Yeah, I've seen lost kids and either managed to get someone in charge and let them know, or try to get the information from the child. In the woman's case, if she thought the man worked there, she should have asked HIM first. Sheesh. You do not randomly grab a stroller and walk off. That's a good way to get hurt and/or tackled and arrested.
There is one time I went to a circus and I don't know why but there is a small child that was standing by a man that caught my attention. I don't know why but I kept following her with my eyes, But when the man started to walk away and a child was not following, I decided to just keep my eye on her for a while. The man did see the child but paid no attention whatsoever to her and the little girl did not pay him any mind either. So I decided to just follow the child for a while to see. Maybe she's going to run up to one of the other adults around us. But as people kept leaving to go watch the circus as it was starting and no one even attempted to acknowledge the child, I decided to finally approach her. But even when I finally approached her, I just squatted down and started asking her questions. That's when she told me that her parents are nowhere in sight. Then I asked if It would be okay for me to help her find her parents and if I can hold her hand. She gladly took my hand and that's when we finally started wandering around together to try and find her parents. And even when I picked her up I asked her if it was okay if I pick her up so she can get a higher look to see if she can see your parents. Thinking about just grabbing this child because I think she might be lost is the most outrageous thing that would have never crossed my mind. Asking the child or asking the adults around the area should be the most common first response because anything else does not feel like there are good intentions behind what they are doing.
Story 3: The store should have called the cops. Disorderly Conduct, Assault/Battery, Child Endangerment, dude would be going to jail fast. It wouldn't matter what state he was in the second he raised his voice he was in the wrong and would have been arrested.
My personal "stop and listen" story from 30 years ago. I was home & walked by my teenage son's bedroom. His boombox was blaring out some clearly obscene rap lyrics, a no-no in our household. I stormed into his room and, over his frantic objections, popped the CD out of the boombox and broke it in two. Turns out he was listening to a cassette tape (also in the boombox), and the CD was one of my own albums. 😂 I had the good grace to laugh and apologize. But I confiscated the rap tape. 😂
I agree with the commenter on Story 1. If you find a lost kid you don't take them somewhere, you ask if anyone knows where their parents are, and if no one knows request someone go fetch security/phone for help yourself. It's part of the same logic where lost kids should stay put. If they're close to where they should be or where their parents are then their parents will find them when searching, and it avoids the kid getting further lost or endangered. If they were serious and did think the kid was left moving them would still be a terrible idea because for all they know the kid's parents are extremely close by(like the other side of the aisle where they could still see the kid), the not asking just feels extremely suspicious.
Scammers, that is the old formula or traditional way to do one. Hit a mom and pop place because they are more likely to give whatever hush money they can. Corporations will just examine the situation and prove innocent or fault and they will take years for the petty lawsuit and ultimately settle out of court or make the person drop the phony suit.
Story 3 - That guy was a total AH. Even if OP had worked there it’s not her job nor the other employees job to be babysitters. They don’t get paid enough to handle unruly kids.
Not to mention that the Company Insurance won't cover them if something happens to the kid and a Lawsuit is filed as they don't have Child Care Liability Coverage and Child Care is NOT part of their Job Description/Duties...
Plus how did she get out if she was locked in? If she was in fact locked in. She would still be locked in until someone from the gym unlocked it to let her out. Thus the gym already knowing about it.
@@huntjl88 Only ....... she called the wrong gym, and because of that fatal error, never made it to being able to demand to speak to a manager. If I was the OP who intercepted that call, I would have been fast dialing the "other f'ing gym" to warn them of the impending hurricane coming their way. 😄
Story 5: So she's just stealing a spot on the beach. Some people are too damn stubborn. She could've spent all that time looking for another spot, but nope, she harassed a surfing teacher and made enemies. Edit: There was also the risk of a theft charge because if she left before the family came back, and OP wasn't aware of the situation, then the family would come to the conclusion that their stuff was likely nicked, find it all in the shed when OP is putting surfing stuff away, and then OP gets accused of theft. But of course, Karen wouldn't care as long as she got her "precious spot on the beach"
Doubtful. The whole story makes no sense. If she was truly locked in, why wouldn't she call emergency services, who would then most likely have called management to let her out. She sound a like a scammer trying to get some money for nothing. She didn't even call the right gym. How would she not know the name of the gym she goes to for Pete's sake.
Story one, When my son was two, we took him to the mall to get exercise because instead of winter too much snow, my husband and I are walking through the mall and I noticed that there were three individuals kind of pacing us. I asked my husband to put the stroller back because we had borrowed one from the mall . As soon as my husband was out of eye shot, one person tried to grab my hand and the other two women tried to get my kid. I have never use language like that. My husband never heard me he was out of earshot. I didn’t panic until we got to the car and we were all safe in the car that’s when I lost it. I called a friend who is a policeman and told them what happened and he said oh yeah that’s common there. I never went back to that and I never let my child run inside a building like that ever again. He was like five before I let him roam around in a store just a little. That scars you for life. So that woman was probably trying to steal your child.
Story 2 How did she get out and not file a complaint against the gym at the same time? I doubt ANYONE was locked in ANY GYM that night! GRIFTER ATTEMPTS TO SCAM!!😂
I’ve found several children. Stories for another day, if at all possible you never put a hand on them. Most recently at a truck stop I was heading to the bathroom when a man asks me if I’m the grandmother to the little girl he was with. I said no and he told me he’s looking for her adult. I stayed with him for his safety. Then out runs grandma. Kid had bolted under the stall while she was “busy”. All good. Keep an eye out but also keep safe yourself.
I agree. If I'm in a mall and I see a little one that looks like they are separated from their adult, I keep an eye on them from a safe distance unless they start to frett. Then I see if an adult comes to them and if the kid interact with said adult. I usually will then ask the adult if they are together and tell them that I was watching the kid to make sure they stay safe. Like not go and play on the escalators or leave the general area. Since I don't have kids of my own (never had), I will not interact with a strange child unless, as I said, they start to fuss or frett, and even then, I will first try to see if some other grown-up comes to the rescue.
Exactly, unless a kid is in immediate danger, best practice is to keep your hands to yourself and draw attention to the kid so the parent can find them. If you can't find the parents, and you're in a store or something, bring them to the front and have a worker announce over the PA that there's a lost child. Worst case scenario, report it to the police, and let them handle it. But for your, and the kid's, safety, try not to touch them.
lol and the call center is just waiting, usually it's some upstream system feeding calls to vendors from a central location that for whatever reason has stopped flagging that call center as active. Then they get slammed and everything shits the bed. The best part? none of us care how upset you are, we just want you to be good little customers, follow our instructions, and get off the damn phone so we can take the next one. So glad I got out of that, it was soul sucking to listen to some tool on the other end who doesn't want to reset their equipment so I can justify a truckroll for replacement without them having to pay for it.
when it happened to us it was a "calm before the storm" moment. also our call center was shit, they'd set it up where you get 1 ring then you're talking, no time to prepare. It was basically a way to keep you from having any say in the matter, that company also got sued so bad for wage theft they had to change their name @@luckylara6610
Likely not. I used to work at one and I'd imagine any decent call center would do the same and track their calls. When I got to work I would login to the phone and set the phone to Auto-in which basically just meant that I was accepting calls. If I wanted to not accept a call I would have to switch to after call or what is called Auxilary mode which is done by pressing a button AUX followed by a number. So for example if I am on break it's AUX 1, doing emails might be AUX 5 (been years, don't remember all the numbers) and all team leads would see all the time codes I was on at what point and every use of the AUX or after calls had to be properly documented with what was done. So not like I can just not accept calls and chill without it being noticed immediately. That said I worked for a baggage handling company line so it was very seasonal. During summer the phone would ring all day non stop and the queue would always show 100+ people in queue no mater how fast you were going so we didn't bother getting through fast since it would never end. At other times we would try to make sure our calls were as fast as possible since you might get 10-15 minutes where nobody would be calling if everyone cleared the queue fast enough
Story 1... should have been a loud call for security as they started going after the person who took the kid... They may have had a good thought of finding their parent... but you never touch another's kid... they should have notified security or a manager (or an employee) that they were abandoned.
I don't think they had good thoughts about moving the kid. It sounds extremely suspicious that she saw a kid in a stroller she could've thought was lost and her first reaction wasn't to ask if the man standing right next to it was in fact the father. Her second reaction should've been if thinking he was an employee to ask them to call over the PA about getting the kid. She was absolutely trying to kidnap the kid
Story 2: if I was being handed the reprimand papers I would’ve rip them into confettis and threw it at Karen just to be petty. Kinda expecting that too 😂
1st story: No idea what that lady was thinking. If she's not outside crying on the phone, trying to look as harmless as possible while watching for another child to kidnap, maybe there's a mental illness involved here. It just doesn't make sense to take a lost child away from an employee. An employee is who would you go to if you, as a customer, found a lost kid in the store so they could inform the manager and put out a call over PA system to find the parents.
Hasn't these parents who leave their kidd unattended heard of Adam Walsh who was left by his mother watching some big kids play with the Atari game system in A Sears In Hollywood FL,then they all including Adam were thrown out of the store where upon someone kidnapped him and then decapitated him threw the skull way but did something to body they were caught but they died before they told where his body was. His father John Walsh started the show America's Most Wanted and created the Missing & Exploited children agency his death is why kids were finger printed so if the something happened their bodies could be identified.
To be fair I don't think that's common knowledge. I'm 36 and grew up watching FBI files, new detectives and forensic files. I've never heard this story before. That's why I don't think it's very common knowledge. 🤷♀️
The first story reminds me of another op (male) story. It about a group of women try to kidnap op son, until the wife come in and save her son and op. I think op almost bout to get arrested until his wife come to the rescue. They try to say op son does not belong to him, because of mix race. I also think they try to kidnap the kid, because firat they went to saying they try to find the parents to it their kid.
First story reminds me of a funny incident when I was working in a retail store. A very young child was standing by a singing snow man (and how could it not, the snow man was funny, singing "I see the snow man") but the kid was crying. I asked it were the parents went and it didn't know, so I had to get it back to the parents. Parents thanked me and said "Oh, the baby loves that snow man, thank you for finding us". 10 minutes later, the same thing happened but this time, the parents werejust in the aisle behind the snow man. Poor child, they should have bought it the singing snow man!
Story 1: By my logic, I think the woman made an honest mistake and almost realize how badly she mess up since if she really planning something bad she would have left the place all together since any responsible parent would call police and get the store cameras to jail her. Since the woman is there on the phone she likely having a mental/emotional breakdown and needed help to pick her up.
@@lovelysakurapetalsyt yeah but people can just be stupid sometimes. Given her reaction it does seem to me like an honest yet absolutely dumb mistake. OP shouldn't feel bad anyway, any parent would react that way. Like lady you do NOT just grab a baby stroller, much less one with an adult right by it?
@@lovelysakurapetalsytalso, if she assumed OP was a store employee, why did she not say anything to them and just walk away with the kid? That cant just be a dumb mistake.
@@KhaosChilde97 That's exactly what I'm saying! Also idk why, but TH-cam deleted my reply to the person above you of the person still being dumb as hell
Last story: the displaced family could have been really petty and arranged themselves around the Karen: one on each side, one crossways at her feet, and the 4th crossways at her head.
Call Center Story: Karen's BF is actually lucky he hadn't broken up with Karen by the time she encountered OP since she'd like have called Security to toss OP, OP's Friend and her Ex out in retaliation...
Story 2: As a former call center employee, I'm honestly surprised that OP was allowed on the call center floor when they were no longer employed there. That's a potential compliance and privacy issue.
How did the woman who claimed to be locked in the gym get out to go home and call the next day? Businesses have outside doors that lock with keys, with no way to unlock them from inside w/o a key, for security purposes. That's so employees can lock up from inside when they are doing end of shift cleanup or paperwor, without customers trying to enter after closing time. 😎
Story 4 - A theater in Colorado failed to check the restrooms several nights after an elderly man, reported missing, was found after his body💀 started to stink. The entire staff was fired!
Story three my partners niece she’s the head boss where she works. She was telling me that people come in and try and drop their children off while they go shopping, she’s told them many times, this is not a childcare centre, we are not responsible for your children please take them with you. The same story can I speak to your manager you are speaking to the top manager.
Story 4: wait... she was locked in overnight ... but in the morning went home and later called back, instead of making her complaint when the first employee opened up (and thus established the truth of her tale). I think it's *far* more likely she's trying desperately to establish an alibi that will convince her Significant Other that she wasn't out doing ... something (or someone) she's trying to hide.
I was working in a grocery store when a young girl (about 8) came up to me and said, "Have you seen my mommy? She's a girl". I couldn't help but laugh and say, "I hope so" before telling her that I would help. We found her mother soon after. (I was in management and we were right at the office.)
Book store story: So she thought OP was an employee? Then why the hell take the stroller with the kid in it rather than ask "the employee" if he had seen the parent(s)? Even if she meant no harm, she's nearly terminally stupid! I tend to doubt it was an abduction attempt (won't say that it's impossible though), because if it was I doubt she would have stuck around outside the store, she'd have disappeared. Call center story: While it's a fun story, OP really didn't have any business being there after getting his required paperwork. But he also wasn't doing any harm if there truly were no calls coming in. Target(?) story: Good grief! Even if OP did work there, stores don't employ people to watch your kids. That's your job to ensure they don't break anything, get lost, get abducted and so on! Gym story: She can't even be bothered to check to see that she's calling the right place to complain. So she didn't even make a complaint to the people that came in to open the gym in the morning and waited till noon to call in to make a complaint? She MAY have a legitimate complaint, but oh boy did she go about it wrong. Beach story: Get to the beach earlier, b***h!
Presumably, the woman locked in a gym shower did not have a mobile phone. That would explain why she had to wait at least until morning to call. It does not explain why she waited until the afternoon to call, however.
I had just assumed she said that metaphorically as she was a hair stylist. Thanks for bringing "Drinking Out of Cups" to my attention. I was in my early 20s when it was released, so I'm surprised I had never heard of it before now.
Story 1-Note how she did this with a man, not a woman. I'm pretty sure she was trying to snatch the kid. I'm just glad that no one tried to play 'hero' because in stories I have heard before, when it comes between believing a woman and a man, people will think the woman is a victim. I remember a particular story when a woman snatched a baby from OP in the supermarket, and bystanders held OP down almost allowing the kidnapper to get away. Only because the wife was also there and heard the commotion and set the story straight did they stop the kidnapping. I've said it before and I will say it again, it is messed up how people don't seem to understand that some Dads will take their children out by themselves. Dads do not need to be a unit with Mom to be on outings with the kids. What do these people think that there aren't single Dads? Or other family units where there are two Dads. Don't make assumptions, a man chasing after a woman with a baby could very well be Dad going after a damn kidnapper.
Story 1: Same thing happen to me when my son was about 3 years old. At a small town local fun days my son was standing next to me holding onto my pant leg when a woman walked by picked up my child and kept walking. I ran after her and stopped her asking her what she was doing, her response was oh, I thought he was lost. Parents generally have a 6th sense when it comes to their children.
8:13 I would've gotten so much joy out of asking her "how does it feel to have your power trip crash and burn?" 10:44 I would've said "Why did YOU leave your son unattended?"
Last story I would of parked next to Karen if I was the dad and since the kids were around 10 I'd wait for Karen to posibly fall asleep and the have the children start covering her from the waist down in sand . Maybe do a lower body octopus design to make her look like Ursula
Yeah because staff are just waiting around for small children to come along so that they can scoop them up and look after them because they haven’t got anything else to do.
Story 3: With the way the guy was acting, I’m willing to bet he was trying to scam the place. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he was the one who broke the mug.
Ok OP totally in the right on the surf/Beach except for the one line after Karen moved another family's stuff. "I didn't really see what I could do after that." Because OP had other responsibilities. Yes OP is a right and responsible person, wish we had more, but just call the police. This was never OP's responsibility, let the people who are do their job instead of still trying to deal with this yourself and suffer Karen's wrath any further.
Story 1: I once had it the other way around. At that time I was studying at an university but I lived outside of the city so every day I took the train for commuting. At the central train station, I was in a mid layer that connects the subway layer to the ground level where trains take off. In that mid layer there are many stores so it usually is a busy place - even more so at that time since it was rush hour. And in the middle of that crowd of people rushing to their next connections there stood a stroller with a small child (maybe 2 years old?) COMPLETELY unattanded. When I noticed it the child was already in a state where it basically cried its lungs out because it was so afraid. Now, that city in general is a very safe place but the main station, as in probably any big city, is just different because strange and crazy people tend to stroll around that area. So I went to the stroller and tried to calm the child, asking where its mother or father is. Obviously the child was unable to talk properly and also in that huge chaos of running people it had no idea where the parent could possibly be. I for sure was with the kid for 3 or 4 minutes, trying to calm it down, promising that mum/dad would surely be back very soon. Obviously that didn't work at all. I mean how would you react when you don't know where your parents are, there is utter chaos around you and a complete stranger is talking to you? Of course, I was searching for the parents all the time but there was no way to find any mother or father as long as they didn't reveal themselves. I was close to a point where I would have moved the stroller to the closest store (approx. 5 m away) and ask the people there for help but before I could do so the mother suddenly appeared - with bags and bags loaded on her arms. I'm sorry to say this but it just added to the whole picture that she had the volume of the trains one level above and she was huffing and puffing - furiously rushing at me (while I was clearly not trying to abduct the child as I was squating in front of it to be one its eye level). Usually I'm a calm and defensive person but at that point I've had enough. I stood up, screaming at her how she could leave her child alone in this crowd and you know what could have happened (for example the appearence of a person such as in story 1). It's one thing that that mother doesn't take care of herself. But also not taking care of her child, that's just too much. Well, I missed my train but it was worth it. I'm glad that the child wasn't alone anymore and I really hope that something like this never happened again - either because of my scolding or because the mother never again wanted a bad/dangerous person (which I probably was regarded as) coming too close to her child.
I briefly worked retail at a very large department store and had to deal with a few lost kids. I was a stock person so I didn't have a uniform and just wore jeans and T shirt most of the time, and could have been anyone. The very first thing I did was to find a floor female employee (dressed in a customer service uniform) to ask her to help the kid find their parents.
Story 3: OP should have called the cops on AP for assault. Had him arrested and sued him. Then she should have sued the store for negligence, they weren’t helping her, they were placating the AP, until he became unruly with them.
Assault is assault. Doesn't matter the height, weight, age or gender of the person doing it. Saying it's just a small woman gives women a free pass to put their hands on ppl just because they are "small women". First story was a rather dangerous situation for the father to be in. All that lady had to do was start shouting he's trying to take her daughter and he would have been pinned to the ground and her taken away with the child.
i work in fast food restoran..when ppl came with kids the waitress usually informs them that they need to keep their children in check cuz we all have jobs to do as we are not daycare... one time a group of adults with small kids ( ages between 5-12) came.,..the store is full, customers come and go the waitrresess are running, u know...the parents go upstairs and have a bit while the kids are running up and down the stairs ( u can imagine how loud they wore and how dangerous) the older waitress always friendly keep telling the kids "no running in stairs u will get hurt" very patient woman..i came out my station to help clean the tables upstairs and as i was going upstairs i said to the kids with a strong look " if u cant be quiet and not harassing the ppl that are going up and down u will be hurt"..the older boy looked at me and went to his mom sat down and didnt moved ubtill they left. the other kids unfortunatly had a nice shower from the left over cokes and soda that i was trying to get in the kitchen..when the parents try to yell at me i ask them if they knew that this is a fast food restoran and not a daycare! they try to go to my boss but he was actually the one that accidentlly spilled the sodas by trying to avoid to step on the 2 children that was closing the steps...all the customers then turn to the group and start shouting at them for not keeping their kids in check...they left with their tales under the legs and never saw them again with their kids in the restoran again..
About locker room Karen: she was trying to pull a scam. Try to get free money to make it “all go away.” I’ve dealt with one similar to it that she claimed that her kid got locked in daycare (mind you I was working at a Sam’s Club and wasn’t an actual employee just an outsourced Demonstration Sample Guy) and was crying for law suits suing us into bankruptcy and mass layoffs and that we’d go to jail could afford her law suits when she was done
The woman tried and failed to steal a child. She was likely crying on the phone to whoever she was going to deliver the child to about being caught and screamed at.
If I saw a kid in a stroller by it self I would call out and if no one responded call 911 about a toddler left all alone in a store with no one around not even in shouting distance. Then wait untill the cops come or do whatever the cops said to do.
I once saw a kid (7-9 yo) walking by herself outside on my way back to the gym. Normally I wouldn't think anything of it but something about her made me want to make sure she wasn't lost (maybe it was her lack of shoes? Idk). I believe she had a phone with her that had a video playing so I asked her where her parents were. She pointed ahead, so I stayed with her to make sure she got to her destination safely (we were in a gated community and no one was around but it's almost 1.5 mi/3 km walk around the whole place). We walked for a little bit where I asked to borrow her phone (to try and call her parents) or where her parents are and her continuing to walk and point ahead of her. It turns out she wanted to go to her friends house but her dad didn't know she had left. She didn't know the exact house (which I found out since we tried one door and she didn't know the guy who answered and they didn't know her), but we found her friends home and they were home (and looked like they were about to leave). They did take her in for a bit and the friend's parents called her parents to make sure they knew where she was. Ok my way back, I ended up meeting the father as he was leaving the house in a hurry (presumably after he got the call). I did get to him in time to let him know where she was.
Story 4: Umm... someone had to come let her out, alarmes would have notified the manager and strip mall or building security. So how did she spend all night alone in a gym without setting off the alarms, notifying security/management and not have her phone on her to call for help? Andy if she did spend the nigh there why wasn't this situation dealt with in person when they came to open the next morning, and she was sleeping on the floor or a weight bench?
It would have been funny if that lady called every gym in the yellow pages and still could remember the name of the gym she was supposed to have been locked in.
When he first came and said I was responsible. I would have said three things number one I don't work here. Number two nobody is responsible for your child except you. These are sales people they're not babysitters. Number three your kid breaks breaks it, you buy it. And if he would have started pushing me I would have decked him.
Story 1. Hell no. You see a kid around another adult, you ask if it's theirs. That lady was trying to steal that baby. There's no way it was a mistake.
With another father, this could have gone seriously and woefully bad for her! 🤨
Possibly an opportunist OR she was sincere in her misunderstanding; betrayed by community or generational conditioning that men don’t do anything domestic or tend to their kids. Her melt-down suggests the latter.
Many yrs ago, my husband was in the front garden when a little girl came along the path crying, he wouldn’t even go to her because of what someone might say. He called for me and I walked her back along the path asking where her mum and dad were. She( roughly 2-3) said she didn’t know. At that moment a neighbour came running. She was the girl’s aunt, they all had been going to a nearby park and the girl had turned back before they had noticed. I’ve also been places where I helped kids but I shout out does anyone know this kid and obviously wouldn’t leave without the child being ok with the adult.
I'm not sure it was intentional. How many child snatchers stick around outside of the scene of the crime bawling instead of booking it in case someone calls the police on them? I think she was just stupid and very lucky things went as well for her as they did.
@@meh2510maybe, but I don't think so. Normally ppl don't just sneak up & grab a stroller. ur right, ppl don't generally hang around the scene of an attempted crime. However, she may not have been planning to go out & take a child. But if she is childless for whatever reason & is desperate for a child or possibly just lost a child of her own, it's possible that she just acted out of desperation or on instinct. Then when it was all said & done & she came to her senses, she had a meltdown over it in the parking lot. Regardless, she SHOULD NOT have put her hand on that stroller
Story 1 was absolutely an abduction attempt! If that lady thought he worked there, she should have said something right off the bat instead of trying to take the child away from an employee who could help.
Exactly- he should have called the cops regardless
Retail does not have bring your kid to work day, so plainly, she tried to kidnap her
First story: I totally get where that dad is coming from. When I was a stay at home father (yes, we exist), I used to get side-eyed everywhere my daughter and I went. People always assumed that a father couldn’t possibly be out with their daughter alone.
I feel ya. In the 90s, I got laid off due to company downsizing and jobs were few and far between. Luckily, my ex wife had her job and we limped thru it. For almost a year, I was a stay at home dad. I really enjoyed it! I was a machinist and I put in a lot of hours and missed a lot of family time. That year was the most enjoyable year of my entire life!
I know your pain.
Since my husband retired from the military, I am finally able to pursue my own career full time. That means he's responsible for dealing with school stuff for the kids. Somehow, (maybe it has to do with living in the heavily misogynistic South), the district can't seem to wrap their heads around that. After several years of telling them "Call [his number], not me!", I still get calls and texts.
Ironically, our daughter gave me a confused look when I told her last night, "your dad is busy right now. Maybe I can help with your math homework?"
Goes to show, expectations are a thing. When people get what they don't expect, it turns their whole world upside-down!
There is nothing wrong with being a stay at home father. As a person who was raised by a single father we appreciate you. Others might not see it but us kids really do love you and love what you do for us.
My daughter was about 4 months old. I took her out in her stroller, or buggy as we call it here to meet up with my sister for tea. I left my siisyer with my daughter to imbibe in a disgusting habit, but i was within sight. Next thing i know is some woman, and her older daughter are trying to grab the buggy. I run over screaming at them. She says, you are not fit to be a parent, i saw you walk away from your child so you could have a cigarette. My sisyer had been squatting down to speak and play with my daughter, and she had been knocked over by this woman. When i asked her what she had planned to do, she told me she would simply take my daughter home and raise her! Well the police where called, and i had her charged with attempted kidnapping, backed up by dozens of witnesses and CCTV. The security told me nothing would come of it, because SHE WAS WELL KNOWN TO THEM FOR THE SAME THING BUT MEANT NO HARM!!!!
oh ffs...not you for the story, but the cops in this story for not doing their damn jobs.
I meant no harm when I took the kids I babysat and their friends to the park.
Claiming that you intend to kidnap a child from it's birth parent IS harmful.
Especially when someone decides to use violence to keep their child safe
"Meant no harm" doesn't apply here: she knew the parent was there, obviously knew she had no right to do what she did, and proceeded anyway, inflicting distress.
I'd certainly follow up (as you did) to make sure that that feigned innocence didn't get her out of a conviction, though it sounds like she needed psychological help more than jail time.
@@ryukaze7392 In that case I would have called the local police commissioner, and raised hell about the officers allowing a known kidnapper to still be out, despite having multiple complaints about kidnapping laid against her, and how the local PD are aiding and abetting her.
@@SeanBZAIt doesn't say the police knew any such thing. It says Security knew about her. I'm wondering why she wasn't banned from the business.
RE #3: Ages ago, back in the early 90's, I worked at a now-defunct major department store attached to a local mall. We had a large toy section near the mall entrance and people constantly left their kids there to amuse themselves while mommy was shopping.
One very long Saturday, I had just spent three hours straightening and putting back together a toy department that looked like it had been hit by an F5 tornado. As I put the last item on a shelf and prepared to toss out my trash bag, some lady stopped by with her kids. She told them to stay in the toy section while she was shopping and she would see them in a while. I was exhausted and couldn't hold my tongue. I said to her, "Just so you know, I charge $5 per kid per hour for babysitting!!" She didn't say a word, just grabbed her kids and left.
I hate inconsiderate people like that!!
Many years ago, I worked as a manager at B. Dalton Booksellar. Had a guy come yell at me that he had left his daughter in our children's books to read while he shopped at the rest of the mall and now she wasn't there and why didn't I watch her. I told him this was a retail store and not a daycare.
We had the public library move into the shopping centre, which was so handy, but it only lasted about 2 years there before they built a new library away from the centre, as some parents would drop the kids off & do shopping, despite having signs saying not to do so.
Did you ever find out what happened to her? Please say she was just in another part of the store or the mall cops had already picked her up or something. This is going to haunt me.
@@C0rran05 yes. She wandered into the Woolworh's cafe where is the only place that our security ever was.
@@eileenlaura50 oh thank goodness! Thanks for providing thay relief.
The first story reminded me of when I was at a Japanese fair some years back; I heard a little girl crying, and waited to see if anyone would give their attention to her, but people just walked past her. So, I asked what was wrong, and she said she couldn't find her mother; I asked which way she saw her mother go, she pointed, and I walked her in that direction until we saw this woman coming towards us. When the girl pulled away to run towards her, I stopped, and her mother thanked me profusely.
So, always check, then take action if needed. Don't just jump into it.
Thank angels for your kind patience and helped reunite those two! And I agree on that.
Self absorbed parents thinking that store/restaurant employees will care for their kid while in the shop is rather common. I used to volunteer at a charity shop and a m0r0nic Karen left her 4 year old kid in the shop, near the kid toys/books, while she left to get her hair done. The poor kid was terrified at being left alone and we had to call the cops. Turned out the kid's grandparents were regulars, but they couldn't look after their grandchild due to a hospital appointment and their son was away on a business trip. The grandfather had to leave his wife alone in the hospital and come to collect his granddaughter. Just as the granddad got there and was talking to the cops, the mother came back and was screaming at me for not "looking after her kid". My manager shouted back that we weren't a babysitting service and the granddad called his son who screamed at his (soon to be ex as he divorced her over this) wife for abandoning their kid for a hair appointment.
Story One: even if she wanted to find the parents, wouldn’t it be first instinct to ask the adults around first?
Only if she were taught common sense-something a lot of Yanks are devoid of.
Better yet, the person who they assumed as an employee. It's literally in their job description to help
but a man can not possibly take care of a baby, right?
chanches are it was sexism
Story 5: I really hope that family double checked to make sure nothing was missing. If that Karen was that determined to steal a spot, she's probably not above stealing personal belongings.
I wound have called the cops and claimed some of her things were mine. She already moved their stuff and there are witnesses so she’s already in a bad light, just make things more difficult on her.
Story 1 - OP shouldn’t feel guilty about protecting his own daughter from a stupid woman who was trying to snatch his baby away from him. He was being a good parent.
That lady was very very lucky that all she got was yelled at because there are places that would NOT take too kindly to anyone touching someone else’s child.
I'd charge her with kidnapping! Let her lawyer pleabargain her down. 🤨
Possibly an opportunist OR she was sincere in her misunderstanding; betrayed by community or generational conditioning that men don’t do anything domestic or tend to their kids. Her melt-down suggests the latter.
Than good. She did it it herself and the tears are her learning that not all men are beligerent parents.
ur right he shouldn't feel guilty at all. Even if what she said was true, which I highly doubt I believe she intended to kidnap that child, that is not how u go about it. You ask the person if it's their child, u don't just grab a stroller & walk away. My mom is the most passive person I've ever known in my over 40yrs of life & she's also the strongest person I've ever known, she has always been able to handle anything life dealt her, but she's always said the one thing she knows she couldn't handle is if she were to lose any of her children. So, as passive as she is had someone done that to me or my siblings, after she put her hand on our stroller she likely would've gotten her arm back sans hand. In that moment I think my mom would've turned into a lion or bear. She's just as protective now with her grandchildren
@@smoothrocky1847 She should be happy to not get sh0t for being a kidnapper.
Story 2: The breakup is just hosing the wound of embarrassment with saltwater. This is why you NEVER cut someone off, because you could end up digging your own grave
Hmm, why might he be breaking up?
1st story: if that had been my dad, that lady might have been put into a headlock. My dad’s a Vietnam Vet and no one messes with his family. My mom is a mama bear and that lady probably would have been hurt if it was my mom. My mom has auburn hair, which is a shade of red. Never mess with a red head.
Story 2: The boyfriend being at the building to break up with Karen is the icing on the cake.
He finally saw the light.....
He was bullied into cutting ties with Karen, possibly following OP to HR for a 2-week notice!
@Sirrantsalot: Just passing by and had to tell you I love your name!😄🇬🇧
Story 4 - Also, how did she get out from being locked in? Store doors don't come with finger latches on the inside to unlock/lock the door - they are keyed both sides. Even if she somehow got the door to open or used some fire exit, the alarm system would have gone off resulting in police and/or fire coming running. Or, did she stay in the gym all night, leave without saying anything, go home, and wait until afternoon to call threatening to sue?
Nah. I think she was just nuts.
Story 1: Anyone who thinks she was just mistaken ignores the fact that 1) if she'd thought the dad was an employee, then she would have asked him to help her find the child's parents (like a normal person would) and 2) she'd snuck up on them and was quietly wheeling the stroller away. Just because she was still outside the store, bawling away, afterwards as OP was walking by doesn't mean it wasn't, at the very least, a crime of opportunity for a woman who might've been unable to conceive a child, or had lost a child. You can feel sympathy for her, but that sympathy flow gets cut off the moment she imposes her issues onto the lives of others, complete strangers.
Story 1. When my son was 3, he went through a phase where he thought it was hilarious to escape from me in public. One time we were with a friend and her grandkids at chandler fashion center to play in their play place. After about an hour my friend wanted to go to the food court. I went with her so we could sit and chat. I had my two kids, my son 3 1/2 and my daughter 1 1/2, in a double stroller. They were both strapped in but my son had learned how to unbuckle the belt. We were sitting and chatting when my son jumped out of the stroller and ran off. I quickly followed, leaving my daughter with my friend, and he ran into an actual restaurant that was next to the food court. I took an alternate path thinking I could cut him off but the way I went was a dead end and the way he took circled back around to the entrance, so that wasn't a wise decision. by the time I made it back to the entrance he was nowhere to be seen. I looked for him for 5 minutes and then went to security to ask for help. I didn't want to take chances in such a public place with so many people around. Anything could happen to him. After giving a description to security, they asked me to return to the food court in case he was back over there. As I was walking back, I was scouring the crowds looking for my son. As I walked down the concourse on the left of the area where the kiosks line up in the middle, I saw a man on the right side a long way down the concourse from me waving and trying to get my attention. When he saw he had my attention he pointed imperatively in front of himself. and I saw my son running down the right side of the concourse disappear behind one of the kiosks as he jogged along having the time of his life. I darted between kiosks and caught him as he tried to turn and run the other way when he noticed me. I never spoke to that man, but I'll always be grateful to him. I think he saw my son escaped and just followed him discreetly because how else would he have known he was my child? The point I'm making is he followed him and didn't grab him. After that I started taking pictures of my kids every time we left the house so I could show it to security when they inevitably ran off. It was a super stressful time until I finally got them to stop doing it. My daughter would join him in his little adventures, but she didn't have the same penchant for shenanigans as her brother. Yes, I ended up being one of those parents with their kid on a leash. People who are judgmental about that don't understand that your child's safety has to come first at all times. Having my kid wear a harness with a leash is better than having my child be abducted or hit by a car. They hid in one of those ball towers at the grocery store one time. Absolutely ridiculous. I think the running off phase lasted about 1 1/2 to 2 years.
My son was like that. We lived in the country, and many's the dawn when we would wake up to the sound of the screen door slamming, and before we could put on enough clothes to be presentable he was off over the hayfields. He was best friends with a pack of dogs, who welcomed him as one of their own, but you approached them on full alert.
She's going to be 30 in Oct but when my granddaughter was 3 at Toledo Zoo, while looking at the giraffes 🦒 she saw a kiosk stand behind us, selling glass prisms! Giraffes are cool & putting leaves on those long tongues is really cool But nothing beats the rainbow light shining out from a prism to a 3 year old 😮!!! It only took about two or four minutes to find her but it felt like hours! From the first time he saw a kid on a leash, my husband said Never Ever!!! Bought one after that trip to Toledo ❤!!!
Never needed one with our 3 kids, they knew if they did something like this kid did all of the time to his mom, that next time, they got left at home! But it's harder to discipline a grand😂!!! I have 5 & the 4th one is 20 next year & I haven't lost one yet😊! But the youngest is 11 though...lol
Story 3 - I’m wondering if this man would have behaved the same way to an actual male employee.
If he would have assumed that a male staff member should be supervising HIS child.
The level of entitlement is off the scale.
He’s the type of person who believes as soon as a woman enters his space, any and all parenting responsibilities automatically default to her.... because, you know....she’s a woman 😂
It *is* weird how the most aggressive duckheads are always calmer when they're faced with someone their own size.
It must really suck to be a small woman in retail *and* be prohibited from using pain compliance techniques.
There are countless stories of women abducting children, either on their own or in cahoots with another abductor. It is so many kinds of wrong to assume kids are "safe" just because the intended babysitter has two legs instead of three.
I'm honestly not sure which is worse: the misogyny in assuming all women are childcare providers, or the endangerment in assuming all women can be entrusted with your children. Probably the latter, but they're both terrible.
Story One: Yeah, I've seen lost kids and either managed to get someone in charge and let them know, or try to get the information from the child. In the woman's case, if she thought the man worked there, she should have asked HIM first. Sheesh. You do not randomly grab a stroller and walk off. That's a good way to get hurt and/or tackled and arrested.
There is one time I went to a circus and I don't know why but there is a small child that was standing by a man that caught my attention. I don't know why but I kept following her with my eyes, But when the man started to walk away and a child was not following, I decided to just keep my eye on her for a while. The man did see the child but paid no attention whatsoever to her and the little girl did not pay him any mind either. So I decided to just follow the child for a while to see. Maybe she's going to run up to one of the other adults around us. But as people kept leaving to go watch the circus as it was starting and no one even attempted to acknowledge the child, I decided to finally approach her.
But even when I finally approached her, I just squatted down and started asking her questions. That's when she told me that her parents are nowhere in sight. Then I asked if It would be okay for me to help her find her parents and if I can hold her hand. She gladly took my hand and that's when we finally started wandering around together to try and find her parents.
And even when I picked her up I asked her if it was okay if I pick her up so she can get a higher look to see if she can see your parents.
Thinking about just grabbing this child because I think she might be lost is the most outrageous thing that would have never crossed my mind. Asking the child or asking the adults around the area should be the most common first response because anything else does not feel like there are good intentions behind what they are doing.
That last one... Never leave your possessions unattended. That family is lucky they got their stuff back.
I never thought about tossing food around for the seagulls! That's absolutely brilliant!
Story 3: The store should have called the cops. Disorderly Conduct, Assault/Battery, Child Endangerment, dude would be going to jail fast. It wouldn't matter what state he was in the second he raised his voice he was in the wrong and would have been arrested.
My personal "stop and listen" story from 30 years ago. I was home & walked by my teenage son's bedroom. His boombox was blaring out some clearly obscene rap lyrics, a no-no in our household. I stormed into his room and, over his frantic objections, popped the CD out of the boombox and broke it in two.
Turns out he was listening to a cassette tape (also in the boombox), and the CD was one of my own albums. 😂 I had the good grace to laugh and apologize.
But I confiscated the rap tape. 😂
I agree with the commenter on Story 1.
If you find a lost kid you don't take them somewhere, you ask if anyone knows where their parents are, and if no one knows request someone go fetch security/phone for help yourself.
It's part of the same logic where lost kids should stay put. If they're close to where they should be or where their parents are then their parents will find them when searching, and it avoids the kid getting further lost or endangered.
If they were serious and did think the kid was left moving them would still be a terrible idea because for all they know the kid's parents are extremely close by(like the other side of the aisle where they could still see the kid), the not asking just feels extremely suspicious.
2nd story
I can't even imagine her reaction when her boyfriend dumped her after that debacle 🤣
That wasn't her day at all.
if she was really locked in, then either she still would be or could have taken it up with whoever let her out,,, her whole story makes no sense
Scammers, that is the old formula or traditional way to do one. Hit a mom and pop place because they are more likely to give whatever hush money they can. Corporations will just examine the situation and prove innocent or fault and they will take years for the petty lawsuit and ultimately settle out of court or make the person drop the phony suit.
Last story: family grab all their stuff, start putting around the karen and let the children play around her. 'accidently' knocking sand all over her
Story 3 - That guy was a total AH. Even if OP had worked there it’s not her job nor the other employees job to be babysitters. They don’t get paid enough to handle unruly kids.
Not to mention that the Company Insurance won't cover them if something happens to the kid and a Lawsuit is filed as they don't have Child Care Liability Coverage and Child Care is NOT part of their Job Description/Duties...
@@HappilyHomicidalHooligan Exactly
What I found funny was the man left with his son in “toe” 😅
@@angelamurray2725 LOL 😂
@@angelamurray2725 Oh, that's HORRIBLE...
I wish I'd thought of it first...
😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Story 4 - I think Karen was trying to pull an insurance scam or something by claiming that she was locked in a gym for the night.
Or, the muscle between her ears is woefully undeveloped. 😅
Plus how did she get out if she was locked in? If she was in fact locked in. She would still be locked in until someone from the gym unlocked it to let her out. Thus the gym already knowing about it.
@@huntjl88 Exactly. This has SCAM written all over it
@@huntjl88 Only ....... she called the wrong gym, and because of that fatal error, never made it to being able to demand to speak to a manager.
If I was the OP who intercepted that call, I would have been fast dialing the "other f'ing gym" to warn them of the impending hurricane coming their way. 😄
I think she was trying to establish an alibi for why she didn't come home that night.
Story 5: So she's just stealing a spot on the beach. Some people are too damn stubborn. She could've spent all that time looking for another spot, but nope, she harassed a surfing teacher and made enemies.
Edit: There was also the risk of a theft charge because if she left before the family came back, and OP wasn't aware of the situation, then the family would come to the conclusion that their stuff was likely nicked, find it all in the shed when OP is putting surfing stuff away, and then OP gets accused of theft. But of course, Karen wouldn't care as long as she got her "precious spot on the beach"
Story 1. With me, if someone did that when my daughter was little, it would be a matter of punch first, ask questions later.
On the gym story, its possible that the employee who opened wasn't a manager & told the woman to call after a certain time to speak with the manager.
Doubtful. The whole story makes no sense. If she was truly locked in, why wouldn't she call emergency services, who would then most likely have called management to let her out. She sound a like a scammer trying to get some money for nothing. She didn't even call the right gym. How would she not know the name of the gym she goes to for Pete's sake.
@@nadinesharp9766Exactly!
Story #1: She would have been SNATCHED!!
Story one,
When my son was two, we took him to the mall to get exercise because instead of winter too much snow, my husband and I are walking through the mall and I noticed that there were three individuals kind of pacing us. I asked my husband to put the stroller back because we had borrowed one from the mall . As soon as my husband was out of eye shot, one person tried to grab my hand and the other two women tried to get my kid. I have never use language like that. My husband never heard me he was out of earshot. I didn’t panic until we got to the car and we were all safe in the car that’s when I lost it. I called a friend who is a policeman and told them what happened and he said oh yeah that’s common there. I never went back to that and I never let my child run inside a building like that ever again. He was like five before I let him roam around in a store just a little. That scars you for life. So that woman was probably trying to steal your child.
Story 2 - LOL the ending was so funny! Not only did Karen embarrass herself but she was also dumped by her boyfriend!😂😂😂
To quote Nelson Muntz, haha!
@@GAMEPRODELTA Absolutely
The Idon'tworkhere lady is my favorite topic on this channel, it's very entertaining which is why I keep coming back.
Nothing like a reading about Karens with no power over OP to give us our daily justice boner.
Try the entitled people ones, they are very similar. 😂
@@annabaker4150 Oh I've listened to those too but they aren't as funny as this one, the Idon'tworkherelady topic is much more hilarious for me.
Story 2 How did she get out and not file a complaint against the gym at the same time? I doubt ANYONE was locked in ANY GYM that night! GRIFTER ATTEMPTS TO SCAM!!😂
I’ve found several children. Stories for another day, if at all possible you never put a hand on them. Most recently at a truck stop I was heading to the bathroom when a man asks me if I’m the grandmother to the little girl he was with. I said no and he told me he’s looking for her adult. I stayed with him for his safety. Then out runs grandma. Kid had bolted under the stall while she was “busy”. All good. Keep an eye out but also keep safe yourself.
I agree. If I'm in a mall and I see a little one that looks like they are separated from their adult, I keep an eye on them from a safe distance unless they start to frett. Then I see if an adult comes to them and if the kid interact with said adult. I usually will then ask the adult if they are together and tell them that I was watching the kid to make sure they stay safe. Like not go and play on the escalators or leave the general area. Since I don't have kids of my own (never had), I will not interact with a strange child unless, as I said, they start to fuss or frett, and even then, I will first try to see if some other grown-up comes to the rescue.
Exactly, unless a kid is in immediate danger, best practice is to keep your hands to yourself and draw attention to the kid so the parent can find them. If you can't find the parents, and you're in a store or something, bring them to the front and have a worker announce over the PA that there's a lost child. Worst case scenario, report it to the police, and let them handle it. But for your, and the kid's, safety, try not to touch them.
Story 2: The PUNCH LINE. LMAO LOL
2nd Story. There’s no calls. Yet there are currently hundreds of customers on hold hearing “Your call is important to us” 😂
lol and the call center is just waiting, usually it's some upstream system feeding calls to vendors from a central location that for whatever reason has stopped flagging that call center as active. Then they get slammed and everything shits the bed. The best part? none of us care how upset you are, we just want you to be good little customers, follow our instructions, and get off the damn phone so we can take the next one.
So glad I got out of that, it was soul sucking to listen to some tool on the other end who doesn't want to reset their equipment so I can justify a truckroll for replacement without them having to pay for it.
As someone that works in a callcentre i WISH i had a few mins without taking calls 😭
when it happened to us it was a "calm before the storm" moment. also our call center was shit, they'd set it up where you get 1 ring then you're talking, no time to prepare. It was basically a way to keep you from having any say in the matter, that company also got sued so bad for wage theft they had to change their name @@luckylara6610
"Your call is important to us. Please continue to hold until it's no longer important to you."
Likely not. I used to work at one and I'd imagine any decent call center would do the same and track their calls. When I got to work I would login to the phone and set the phone to Auto-in which basically just meant that I was accepting calls. If I wanted to not accept a call I would have to switch to after call or what is called Auxilary mode which is done by pressing a button AUX followed by a number. So for example if I am on break it's AUX 1, doing emails might be AUX 5 (been years, don't remember all the numbers) and all team leads would see all the time codes I was on at what point and every use of the AUX or after calls had to be properly documented with what was done. So not like I can just not accept calls and chill without it being noticed immediately.
That said I worked for a baggage handling company line so it was very seasonal. During summer the phone would ring all day non stop and the queue would always show 100+ people in queue no mater how fast you were going so we didn't bother getting through fast since it would never end. At other times we would try to make sure our calls were as fast as possible since you might get 10-15 minutes where nobody would be calling if everyone cleared the queue fast enough
Story 1... should have been a loud call for security as they started going after the person who took the kid... They may have had a good thought of finding their parent... but you never touch another's kid... they should have notified security or a manager (or an employee) that they were abandoned.
I don't think they had good thoughts about moving the kid. It sounds extremely suspicious that she saw a kid in a stroller she could've thought was lost and her first reaction wasn't to ask if the man standing right next to it was in fact the father. Her second reaction should've been if thinking he was an employee to ask them to call over the PA about getting the kid. She was absolutely trying to kidnap the kid
Story 2: if I was being handed the reprimand papers I would’ve rip them into confettis and threw it at Karen just to be petty. Kinda expecting that too 😂
Yes! I was a little disappointed that op didn't.
1st story: No idea what that lady was thinking. If she's not outside crying on the phone, trying to look as harmless as possible while watching for another child to kidnap, maybe there's a mental illness involved here. It just doesn't make sense to take a lost child away from an employee. An employee is who would you go to if you, as a customer, found a lost kid in the store so they could inform the manager and put out a call over PA system to find the parents.
Hasn't these parents who leave their kidd unattended heard of Adam Walsh who was left by his mother watching some big kids play with the Atari game system in A Sears In Hollywood FL,then they all including Adam were thrown out of the store where upon someone kidnapped him and then decapitated him threw the skull way but did something to body they were caught but they died before they told where his body was. His father John Walsh started the show America's Most Wanted and created the Missing & Exploited children agency his death is why kids were finger printed so if the something happened their bodies could be identified.
A lot of them are too young to remember that nowadays.
To be fair I don't think that's common knowledge. I'm 36 and grew up watching FBI files, new detectives and forensic files. I've never heard this story before. That's why I don't think it's very common knowledge. 🤷♀️
She could have been calling for a ride after the botched attempt.
The first story reminds me of another op (male) story. It about a group of women try to kidnap op son, until the wife come in and save her son and op. I think op almost bout to get arrested until his wife come to the rescue. They try to say op son does not belong to him, because of mix race. I also think they try to kidnap the kid, because firat they went to saying they try to find the parents to it their kid.
That was a good story
I remember that story.
First story reminds me of a funny incident when I was working in a retail store. A very young child was standing by a singing snow man (and how could it not, the snow man was funny, singing "I see the snow man") but the kid was crying. I asked it were the parents went and it didn't know, so I had to get it back to the parents. Parents thanked me and said "Oh, the baby loves that snow man, thank you for finding us". 10 minutes later, the same thing happened but this time, the parents werejust in the aisle behind the snow man.
Poor child, they should have bought it the singing snow man!
Oh no, my son had buried his fav toy just next to my beach towel. Guess he is going to have to start digging around to find it again. 🤣🤣🤣
I'd have thrown everything of hers she wasn't sitting on in all directions - then put ourselves all around her, touching if possible.
The second story's finale is the most GLORIOUS insults to injury ever read in any crazy karen stories.
Story 1: By my logic, I think the woman made an honest mistake and almost realize how badly she mess up since if she really planning something bad she would have left the place all together since any responsible parent would call police and get the store cameras to jail her. Since the woman is there on the phone she likely having a mental/emotional breakdown and needed help to pick her up.
Nope. If I was in that situation, I'd yell "Hey is there a parent looking for a kid??" Not just TAKE A BABY
@@lovelysakurapetalsyt yeah but people can just be stupid sometimes. Given her reaction it does seem to me like an honest yet absolutely dumb mistake. OP shouldn't feel bad anyway, any parent would react that way. Like lady you do NOT just grab a baby stroller, much less one with an adult right by it?
@@_viridium_ If it was a "mistake" then she's one of the dumbest people ever
@@lovelysakurapetalsytalso, if she assumed OP was a store employee, why did she not say anything to them and just walk away with the kid? That cant just be a dumb mistake.
@@KhaosChilde97 That's exactly what I'm saying! Also idk why, but TH-cam deleted my reply to the person above you of the person still being dumb as hell
I shook my head too much and now I want to speak with your manager!
Oh my. I know a guy that was locked in the gym. Luckily he was able to call someone and they eventually let him out. He got on the news about it! 😂
I’m wondering if the woman in the first story has early-moderate dementia.
Last story: the displaced family could have been really petty and arranged themselves around the Karen: one on each side, one crossways at her feet, and the 4th crossways at her head.
I just would call the manager and security when you have a person that sounds like they're causing a disturbance.
Call Center Story: Karen's BF is actually lucky he hadn't broken up with Karen by the time she encountered OP since she'd like have called Security to toss OP, OP's Friend and her Ex out in retaliation...
This way, Karen might believe he broke up with her for being an asshole to her staff and maybe she might possibly consider changing her ways.
Story 2: As a former call center employee, I'm honestly surprised that OP was allowed on the call center floor when they were no longer employed there. That's a potential compliance and privacy issue.
How did the woman who claimed to be locked in the gym get out to go home and call the next day? Businesses have outside doors that lock with keys, with no way to unlock them from inside w/o a key, for security purposes. That's so employees can lock up from inside when they are doing end of shift cleanup or paperwor, without customers trying to enter after closing time. 😎
Fire Exits exist.
That’s kind of hardcore, breaking up with someone at work.
Story 4 - A theater in Colorado failed to check the restrooms several nights after an elderly man, reported missing, was found after his body💀 started to stink. The entire staff was fired!
Story three my partners niece she’s the head boss where she works. She was telling me that people come in and try and drop their children off while they go shopping, she’s told them many times, this is not a childcare centre, we are not responsible for your children please take them with you. The same story can I speak to your manager you are speaking to the top manager.
Story 4: wait... she was locked in overnight ... but in the morning went home and later called back, instead of making her complaint when the first employee opened up (and thus established the truth of her tale).
I think it's *far* more likely she's trying desperately to establish an alibi that will convince her Significant Other that she wasn't out doing ... something (or someone) she's trying to hide.
I was working in a grocery store when a young girl (about 8) came up to me and said, "Have you seen my mommy? She's a girl".
I couldn't help but laugh and say, "I hope so" before telling her that I would help. We found her mother soon after. (I was in management and we were right at the office.)
Book store story: So she thought OP was an employee? Then why the hell take the stroller with the kid in it rather than ask "the employee" if he had seen the parent(s)? Even if she meant no harm, she's nearly terminally stupid! I tend to doubt it was an abduction attempt (won't say that it's impossible though), because if it was I doubt she would have stuck around outside the store, she'd have disappeared.
Call center story: While it's a fun story, OP really didn't have any business being there after getting his required paperwork. But he also wasn't doing any harm if there truly were no calls coming in.
Target(?) story: Good grief! Even if OP did work there, stores don't employ people to watch your kids. That's your job to ensure they don't break anything, get lost, get abducted and so on!
Gym story: She can't even be bothered to check to see that she's calling the right place to complain. So she didn't even make a complaint to the people that came in to open the gym in the morning and waited till noon to call in to make a complaint? She MAY have a legitimate complaint, but oh boy did she go about it wrong.
Beach story: Get to the beach earlier, b***h!
Presumably, the woman locked in a gym shower did not have a mobile phone. That would explain why she had to wait at least until morning to call. It does not explain why she waited until the afternoon to call, however.
Story 3. Not my chair...not my problem? Hilarious if thats a reference to Drinking out of Cups. 😂😂😂
I had just assumed she said that metaphorically as she was a hair stylist. Thanks for bringing "Drinking Out of Cups" to my attention. I was in my early 20s when it was released, so I'm surprised I had never heard of it before now.
She’s a hairdresser, so “not my chair” makes sense.
@@libbygardner3021 you're right...I can dream. Lml
Story 1-Note how she did this with a man, not a woman. I'm pretty sure she was trying to snatch the kid. I'm just glad that no one tried to play 'hero' because in stories I have heard before, when it comes between believing a woman and a man, people will think the woman is a victim. I remember a particular story when a woman snatched a baby from OP in the supermarket, and bystanders held OP down almost allowing the kidnapper to get away. Only because the wife was also there and heard the commotion and set the story straight did they stop the kidnapping. I've said it before and I will say it again, it is messed up how people don't seem to understand that some Dads will take their children out by themselves. Dads do not need to be a unit with Mom to be on outings with the kids. What do these people think that there aren't single Dads? Or other family units where there are two Dads. Don't make assumptions, a man chasing after a woman with a baby could very well be Dad going after a damn kidnapper.
Society needs to get over the sexist double standards. It's what the feminists tried to fight back in the 1970's.
the angry father in the store - bet that poor kid had a beating when they got home. Dad won't be happy until he takes it out on someone..
Story 1: Same thing happen to me when my son was about 3 years old. At a small town local fun days my son was standing next to me holding onto my pant leg when a woman walked by picked up my child and kept walking. I ran after her and stopped her asking her what she was doing, her response was oh, I thought he was lost. Parents generally have a 6th sense when it comes to their children.
8:13 I would've gotten so much joy out of asking her "how does it feel to have your power trip crash and burn?"
10:44 I would've said "Why did YOU leave your son unattended?"
Last story I would of parked next to Karen if I was the dad and since the kids were around 10 I'd wait for Karen to posibly fall asleep and the have the children start covering her from the waist down in sand . Maybe do a lower body octopus design to make her look like Ursula
"What made you think leaving a child alone in a store is a good idea?" says the person who left a child alone in a store.
Another day I'm happy my face makes me rather unapproachable in retail situations
Yeah because staff are just waiting around for small children to come along so that they can scoop them up and look after them because they haven’t got anything else to do.
Story 3: With the way the guy was acting, I’m willing to bet he was trying to scam the place. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he was the one who broke the mug.
Locked in a gym. 1, if she was truly locked in, when she left, alarms would be going off everywhere.
Ok OP totally in the right on the surf/Beach except for the one line after Karen moved another family's stuff. "I didn't really see what I could do after that." Because OP had other responsibilities.
Yes OP is a right and responsible person, wish we had more, but just call the police.
This was never OP's responsibility, let the people who are do their job instead of still trying to deal with this yourself and suffer Karen's wrath any further.
Story 1: I once had it the other way around. At that time I was studying at an university but I lived outside of the city so every day I took the train for commuting. At the central train station, I was in a mid layer that connects the subway layer to the ground level where trains take off. In that mid layer there are many stores so it usually is a busy place - even more so at that time since it was rush hour. And in the middle of that crowd of people rushing to their next connections there stood a stroller with a small child (maybe 2 years old?) COMPLETELY unattanded.
When I noticed it the child was already in a state where it basically cried its lungs out because it was so afraid. Now, that city in general is a very safe place but the main station, as in probably any big city, is just different because strange and crazy people tend to stroll around that area. So I went to the stroller and tried to calm the child, asking where its mother or father is. Obviously the child was unable to talk properly and also in that huge chaos of running people it had no idea where the parent could possibly be.
I for sure was with the kid for 3 or 4 minutes, trying to calm it down, promising that mum/dad would surely be back very soon. Obviously that didn't work at all. I mean how would you react when you don't know where your parents are, there is utter chaos around you and a complete stranger is talking to you?
Of course, I was searching for the parents all the time but there was no way to find any mother or father as long as they didn't reveal themselves. I was close to a point where I would have moved the stroller to the closest store (approx. 5 m away) and ask the people there for help but before I could do so the mother suddenly appeared - with bags and bags loaded on her arms. I'm sorry to say this but it just added to the whole picture that she had the volume of the trains one level above and she was huffing and puffing - furiously rushing at me (while I was clearly not trying to abduct the child as I was squating in front of it to be one its eye level).
Usually I'm a calm and defensive person but at that point I've had enough. I stood up, screaming at her how she could leave her child alone in this crowd and you know what could have happened (for example the appearence of a person such as in story 1). It's one thing that that mother doesn't take care of herself. But also not taking care of her child, that's just too much. Well, I missed my train but it was worth it. I'm glad that the child wasn't alone anymore and I really hope that something like this never happened again - either because of my scolding or because the mother never again wanted a bad/dangerous person (which I probably was regarded as) coming too close to her child.
I briefly worked retail at a very large department store and had to deal with a few lost kids. I was a stock person so I didn't have a uniform and just wore jeans and T shirt most of the time, and could have been anyone. The very first thing I did was to find a floor female employee (dressed in a customer service uniform) to ask her to help the kid find their parents.
It's interesting that TH-cam carries ads for adblockers but then doesn't allow adblockers. That is so hypocritical that it borders on irony.
Story 3:
OP should have called the cops on AP for assault. Had him arrested and sued him. Then she should have sued the store for negligence, they weren’t helping her, they were placating the AP, until he became unruly with them.
Assault is assault. Doesn't matter the height, weight, age or gender of the person doing it. Saying it's just a small woman gives women a free pass to put their hands on ppl just because they are "small women".
First story was a rather dangerous situation for the father to be in. All that lady had to do was start shouting he's trying to take her daughter and he would have been pinned to the ground and her taken away with the child.
"Release the seagulls!"
"Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!" "Mine!"
i work in fast food restoran..when ppl came with kids the waitress usually informs them that they need to keep their children in check cuz we all have jobs to do as we are not daycare... one time a group of adults with small kids ( ages between 5-12) came.,..the store is full, customers come and go the waitrresess are running, u know...the parents go upstairs and have a bit while the kids are running up and down the stairs ( u can imagine how loud they wore and how dangerous) the older waitress always friendly keep telling the kids "no running in stairs u will get hurt" very patient woman..i came out my station to help clean the tables upstairs and as i was going upstairs i said to the kids with a strong look " if u cant be quiet and not harassing the ppl that are going up and down u will be hurt"..the older boy looked at me and went to his mom sat down and didnt moved ubtill they left. the other kids unfortunatly had a nice shower from the left over cokes and soda that i was trying to get in the kitchen..when the parents try to yell at me i ask them if they knew that this is a fast food restoran and not a daycare! they try to go to my boss but he was actually the one that accidentlly spilled the sodas by trying to avoid to step on the 2 children that was closing the steps...all the customers then turn to the group and start shouting at them for not keeping their kids in check...they left with their tales under the legs and never saw them again with their kids in the restoran again..
Last story, that is why you don’t leave your stuff unattended.
Karen “Are you done yet?”
OP “Are you dumb yet?”
Last story...oh my did i accidentally kick sand on you? Food for the birds good too!
About locker room Karen: she was trying to pull a scam. Try to get free money to make it “all go away.” I’ve dealt with one similar to it that she claimed that her kid got locked in daycare (mind you I was working at a Sam’s Club and wasn’t an actual employee just an outsourced Demonstration Sample Guy) and was crying for law suits suing us into bankruptcy and mass layoffs and that we’d go to jail could afford her law suits when she was done
"What makes you think it's okay to leave a kid unattended?"
The pot calling the kettle black?
The guy with the kid and the broken cup got what he wanted. He didn't have to pay for the cup.
That last line of Story 2 hit me like a fucking 2 ton cement truck
Story 5: I would have called the police on the woman for being so entitled as to MOVE OUR STUFF!
The woman tried and failed to steal a child. She was likely crying on the phone to whoever she was going to deliver the child to about being caught and screamed at.
If I saw a kid in a stroller by it self I would call out and if no one responded call 911 about a toddler left all alone in a store with no one around not even in shouting distance. Then wait untill the cops come or do whatever the cops said to do.
Toss food for the seagulls. Dang, I like her style.
Yeah Story #3 that big guy totally lifted a watch. Cause a scene and get kicked out and not get searched.
I once saw a kid (7-9 yo) walking by herself outside on my way back to the gym. Normally I wouldn't think anything of it but something about her made me want to make sure she wasn't lost (maybe it was her lack of shoes? Idk). I believe she had a phone with her that had a video playing so I asked her where her parents were. She pointed ahead, so I stayed with her to make sure she got to her destination safely (we were in a gated community and no one was around but it's almost 1.5 mi/3 km walk around the whole place). We walked for a little bit where I asked to borrow her phone (to try and call her parents) or where her parents are and her continuing to walk and point ahead of her. It turns out she wanted to go to her friends house but her dad didn't know she had left. She didn't know the exact house (which I found out since we tried one door and she didn't know the guy who answered and they didn't know her), but we found her friends home and they were home (and looked like they were about to leave). They did take her in for a bit and the friend's parents called her parents to make sure they knew where she was. Ok my way back, I ended up meeting the father as he was leaving the house in a hurry (presumably after he got the call). I did get to him in time to let him know where she was.
Story 4: Umm... someone had to come let her out, alarmes would have notified the manager and strip mall or building security. So how did she spend all night alone in a gym without setting off the alarms, notifying security/management and not have her phone on her to call for help? Andy if she did spend the nigh there why wasn't this situation dealt with in person when they came to open the next morning, and she was sleeping on the floor or a weight bench?
She's lying to scam the gym
It would have been funny if that lady called every gym in the yellow pages and still could remember the name of the gym she was supposed to have been locked in.
When he first came and said I was responsible. I would have said three things number one I don't work here. Number two nobody is responsible for your child except you. These are sales people they're not babysitters. Number three your kid breaks breaks it, you buy it. And if he would have started pushing me I would have decked him.