I think the idea of having focus on non lethal weapons is pretty interesting still. It changes the way you approach problems in a fresh way but at the same time keeps the threatening creatures threatening.
Great review Mack. Love that you are re-visiting these games and hope to see more of these kind of reviews. Also excited to watch the channel all year with all the content you have planned (according to christmas update video). Thank you !
Using keyboard would be such a big design flaw. If you don't have a wireless key board, how are you supposed to turn 180 degrees while using keyboard and vr. You would be turning your body, while having to keep your hands behind you to control what you do. And if you can use mouse to turn, then what's the point of VR. It would just be like putting your face two inches away from a tiny monitor.
well you see luckily you are a human and humans have this handy thing called a neck and unless you have been in some horrible accident your neck can turn at least 90 degrees and more if your flexible or double jointed.
Oh wow, Mack, I was just wondering if Subnautica is better now and went on youtube searching for Worth A buy's take on this game, i remember you already reviewed it. And this video pop's up, "6 minutes ago". The gods must favor me today ! Thanks Mack. Greetings from France =)
That's a really stupid reason to not have guns. It's not like the game takes place in a school. Or like there are children in the game. That's super stupid
Thunder Star well the game is suffering a little from it. Honestly the thought is nice but this is a early access steam game. It's not gonna make a change at all. Maybe if it was a AAA game but otherwise no-one is really gonna notice.
He doesn't want the game to turn into a massacre the alien life form game, they wanted to take a more friendly approach and have it so the main objective is to run not kill
+taco head Again, the game suffers because of it. This isn't like Outlast where running can be fun/challenging. Running away from combat in this game is simplistically boring, and eventually it just becomes tedious. It's the reason me and my friends aren't buying it. It simply won't be atmospheric for any of us if we're spending 100% of the game grinding for resources and slowly drifting away whenever a boring enemy shows up.
How many times do the Dev's have to say there is NOT going to be ANY Multi-player function added to this game, before folks get the message? Apparently, it needs to be repeated daily.
BlackWolf lol what?? The selling point of this game wasn't: let's have 10000 cyclops running around. It's a survival game meant to instill fear, loneliness, and in some cases horror in the player. The immersion is completely lost by adding more players. You're supposed to struggle with surviving and living in a hostile ocean environment with only yourself. Fuck the streamlining and pandering to a bunch of kids. If the developers wanted a multiplayer survival game it would have been one of the The first things on their list. As far as weapons are concerned that would just make the entire game boring.
Great revisit, Mack! I love Subnautica and have been playing it for months so I was very happy to see this. I'm also very glad you gave the regular survival mode a chance because it drastically changes the game. They've done a lot of work on the resource-gathering and grinding and I think they're doing a great job, though after a few playthroughs, the sequence you kind of have to follow gets a bit linear if you want to get certain items. I would like to see that randomized so you didn't always go to the same place at the same time to get the same thing, but they're still working on that so we'll see. Also don't forget there's a Hardcore mode where you only have one life. That's a lot of fun, but I only recommend it for the masochists because it can punish you severely and all of your progress will be toast. PS - Worthadive gave me the damn giggles this morning, thank you.
geordi rendum ohh stop being a baby you know why they wont put it in its becuase it wouldnt work as easily if they did ad co op they would have to remake the game so everyone can get everything and by that i mean the PDA the aninations the story everything becuase imagine 1 person grabbing the pda of the floor and youre friend comes up and doesnt find any is that gonna help him find out whats going on and its not like there could be 2 of the same pda in one area so the only way for this to work is if they make it so if 1 person gets sonething the other person automaticly gets it meaning animations pda story battles unlocks and all that meaning if youre playing with someone you should never be seperated or else it wouldnt make sense to why he gets an animation of the emperor talking to him while his friend is on top of the ocean looking for resources
I adore your vids, mack! I think I've seen them all at least twice. Sometimes we meet up with friends and have a wonderfull laugh thanks to you! Keep it up! And (I wouldn't write it here, if you wouldn't have mention it in your vids) we feel deeply sorry for whats going on in your private life. We wish you all the best, mack! And bunny and bell, too! Yeah, non-english speaking person here😂
it's great you finally got around revisiting these games, got the impression you have forgotten all the others outside of 7 days to die :p. you said before you plan on revisiting empyrion and that's great! after all an up to date overview of it's current condition is needed :)
Sorry but i have to correct 1 and 1/2 things 1.) When you enter your base your inventory is "secured" when you leave than die anything added to your inventory is than deleted and 2.) the knife wasn't intended as much a weapon as it is a necessary tool for survival (Harvesting resources) -(sorry if i sound rude i really don't mean to)-
You do loose items when you die, but you only loose the items that you gathered between the moment you left your base and when you died (if you haven't returned to your base to save your items)
IIRC The frames drop because the terrain is voxel based atm, and it loads in chunks. The devs said that they are planning on removing the teraforming functionality and making the terrain static in order to end the frame spikes.
Hey Mack! Great vids! Thanks for the honest inputs! Quick Question. Do you think it might make its way unto consoles at some point? I love these type of games And I really want this to make it unto the ps4 or maybe even the Switch. Thanks.
So happy this game works fine with a controller. Controller allows for some people to play laid back and not straight in front of M&K. It's easier on the back.
Dude, that's just talking to talk. You can use a keyboard while hanging upside down if you want, it is not the point. I can play just so much hjours standing straight in front of M&K, but then, I need a controller game to relax my back. And a controller allows me that without getting a special gear. I have friends who play on M&K, until they want to move to their laptop on the bed and switch to a controller. Plus, don't dare saying M&K is healthier, it is not. The position of the forearms when M&King is absolutely not natural and is a constrain on wrists, forearms and shoulders.
I've often got a sore back and even repetitive strain on my fingers from using a M&K. I actually prefer using a controller for open world games and long gaming sessions. I don't want to be sitting up, focused and playing skill based games all the time. Sometimes I like to chill after a 10 hour shift at work and I want to relax.
I personally like the game without guns, not because of the reason the developer stated. I think your statement on implementing guns was correct. But, I it does a great job of conveying powerlessness (at times). It really shows that humans are just small creatures, that bend to nature's will like everything else. Humans aren't on top, no matter how hard we try. I personally think guns would give us too much power in this game, but that's just my opinion.
trentad14 yea me too i agree its mostly fun becuase with guns the creatures of the game wouldnt be as scary as they are i mean honestly ive played monster games with guns and there not scary at all once you get youre guns out but thus games atmosphere and horror is just cherry on top of the ice cream and i love it there is not a moment of relief and thats how surviv game is suppose to be you shouldnt constently feel safe on an unknown planet with unknown creatures sooo
It was in an abandoned pda I think which explains why there aren't any guns. Apparently humans are now really advanced that they have united and have no need for conflict and weapons, which is stupid considering they're exploring in outer space with a risk of aliens with advanced weaponry shooting them or disintegrate them in one shot.
Actually that's not it. Like, AT ALL. The first time you craft a knife, your AI notes that the reason you don't have weapons is that after a massive riot on a colony, the company you work for, Alterra, removed all weapon schematics from their fabricators and constructors. The sole exception is a knife, since a knife was successfully classified as a multi-use tool and a survival essential. That happens to be used to shank something. The torpedoes that you can launch create localized vortexes to stun and disrupt creatures. The Stasis Gun is apparently used to suspend objects for easy repair. The Propulsion cannon is, obviously, used to lift and move heavy objects.
When I played M&K using the rift I constantly lost my hand placement on my keyboard because I couldn't see it every now and then. I think that is their reasoning for justifying the controller, though I don't see why it just isn't a toggle.
Love this game. It is great at creating a sense of claustrophobia and a feeling of loneliness. When you go deep down, like below 400-500 meters, into dark cave systems and your submarine begins to run low on energy and your oxygen supply is limited; well your palms will start to get sweaty.
I play this game on a Dell Inspiron laptop and I have some frame issues from surface to deep levels as well. Otherwise it's fine. I think it might just be an optimization thing
A really strange reason to not have guns. Have had the game since the early days and wondered why there were no deadly weapons. Thought is was probably because of the strange red pawn mechanics but at least they could add a harpoon gun. Not many mass shootings with those.
I use a controller for some games and mouse and keyboard for others. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and the PS4 controller is really nice to use. Just sayin'.
its not about opinions or personal preferences when it comes to the actual argument. mouse is objectively better than controller stick in every way. aiming, reacting to the enemies, simply looking around etc etc. only exeptions are arcade (and/or simcade) racing games and sports games. other than that, it is not debatable.
About the knife and lack of guns, I seem to remember the devs saying this: (Interpreted, I can't find the exact quote now) "We don't want to add weapons because it ruins the experience. You wouldn't feel the same fear with a gun in your hands compared to a knife. We also want it so that players aren't inclined to kill everything. It feels more natural, avoiding a shark near one location, and swimming a different path, instead of shooting it and continuing on. They aren't monsters, they're creatures. They aren't out to get you, they're out to survive." They fixed this (IMO) with the stasis rifle. It doesn't kill anything, but instead freezes them, so you can get away safely. Like the reaper for example. I always stasis it (Full stasis charge lasts 1 minute) and swim along my way. Or when I'm trying to get a resource, I freeze any hostile creatures, take the resource, and get on my way.
Also, if you really want to kill something, attach a drill arm and a grappling hook to the prawn. Grapple onto a creature and drill it. I've found I can even kill reapers with it. Or, use the propulsion cannon arm and use that as a gun. With the whole fact you can load it, it acts similarly to a gun, it just doesn't use bullets. Bring some titanium chunks or gas pods and use them as ammo. It normally deters and kills small creatures. EDIT: Freezing a medium-large creature and using gas pod torpedoes works wonders too. Also, if you want to kill a Reaper Leviathan, it will take around 6 Hardened knives in my experience. I don't think they re-spawn either, so removing them can be beneficial, but costly and risky.
Maybe they just need a Harpoon, and some depth charges for the bigger stuff. That would be a compromise.... "Aw but do you not remember the Harpoon massacre of 1675, when Captain Codpiece lost his marbles and went on a harpoon spree in the local town"......fuck
Mack, do you still do Twitch streams? I'm still subscribed to your Mackscorner Twitch channel but it says you haven't streamed in over a year and a half. Cheers.
Totally agree with your opinions on keeping games separate to reality. If they are that way inclined they'll do it. Simple. Love the videos and your work man keep it up!
You complained about that there are no lethal weapons in the game, I have a couple of things to tell you: 1. The reason why you have a knife in the game is because it is SUCH an essential survival tool. 2. There are other ways of dealing with the animals, such as: shooting them away with the propulsion cannon. 3. You can just kill them with the drill for the P.R.A.W.N.
I have read a lot of accredited studies on this. The only consistent statistically significant conclusion is that video games increase aggression in already aggressive individuals. This translates to a loose and very circumstantial correlation between games and violence, and nothing approaching causality.
And on the tests made on children with violent games they found out children get the same kind of aggression that they would get from sports,which isn't dangerous.
Surely it's great that this game doesn't have lethal weapons? It means that you know that since you don't have the means to kill most predators easily, you are indoctrinated throughout your experience that your only option is to avoid them, which means that they don't become any less dangerous late game.
Yah the lack of guns is not mentioned in his Outlast review, and only briefly mentioned in his Alien Isolation review. Not sure why he's hung up on it in this game.
Great video mack, as always! But I have to differ with the need of lethal guns. I played it quite a lot and I never felt the need of having anything more dangerous than the knife.
there's a stark difference between wanting no lethal weapons and putting a player into a survival environment with no means to hunt/protect themselves from wildlife. a simple harpoon/spear gun for defence and spear fishing would be enough to add another dimension without reflecting on real world violence, especially as you said, knives are lethal weapons as well so if you can kill why force it to be up close and personal versus gameplay that rarely reflects the nastiness of inflicting knife wounds on things.
+Worth A Buy Is there video where you describe why you prefer co-op so much and what makes a game perfect for co-op....I'm very interested to get your opinion on the matter as I really enjoy your insight into a lot of these game reviews.
You make good points about the game and separation of fantasy and reality. I'll buy the game and will play it with my steam controller, with a big fat grin on my face.
Great review, but I don't recommend anyone to watch it who hasn't experienced the game from scratch yet. I started this game without having seen any footage whatsoever and seeing this video, I can tell you that my playthrough for sure wouldn't have been nearly as amazing if I saw/heard all the things Mack mentions/shows here. This is the best game I played 2016, and should be experienced without knowing ANYTHING. Just my opinion :)
I agree with the controller thing, i only use them for racing games. But this game really has no need for guns. There are so many options how you can kill some beasts. For example have a couple of crash fish with you and shoot em on a target with the Stasis Rifle. A bad side effect also is only to wound a big beast as it changes its territory. And that might be closer to your base than you like it :)
No coop from the Devs. This was posted in August: Hey everyone, We've been getting tons and tons of questions and requests about whether we're going to add multiplayer to Subnautica or not. Back in our early prototypes we always had multiplayer in the back of our mind. But we had so much to learn about the game, multiplayer was never a priority. Eventually we hit early access and now it would take many man-years to add any kind of multiplayer to Subnautica. We don't want to spend years more working on Subnautica before v1.0, so we sadly have come to terms with the fact that we won't be adding any kind of multiplayer or coop to the game. Maybe one day we'll start over on a different engine and make a new Subnautica game based around coop. A game where one person is piloting the sub, another person is poring over readouts and computers, another is repairing the engines and yet another is radioing for help in a dark biome, where their Seamoth is almost out of juice. We would love to play that game. But until then, we're going to finish up Subnautica the way it was meant to be: one person trying to survive in in a massive, dangerous, beautiful, alien world.
Couldn't agree more about your no mouse support in VR rant. I'm not expecting something crazy like touch support, I just don't understand why the fuck they disabled the perfectly working mouse support for VR.
Guys am pondering driving to Mcdonalds for an apple pie but it's like 5 miles away, it is worth a drive?
only if you get a double cheese aswell
Fk yee
Worth A Buy Nope. Those Apple Pies from McD's literally melt your teeth.
Worth A Buy get a proper apple pie
Worth A Buy Me mum made a meat and potato pie today, you want me to mail a slice to ya?
Underwater, no one can hear you using a controller.
Astral Frost ha
Astral Frost under water no fish can hear you shit yourself when you encounter the sea dragon
Tobias11ize no I am not I rather eat a raw fish than do that
Tobias11ize lol that's one wild comment .
Tobias11ize. Your that type of person who uses anomanity to msg on random channels to relieve your conscious right?
he didn't want anybody shooting up schools of fish in his game.
Should've titled it, 'is it worth a buoy' because you know...ocean stuff.
Sultan good job.
LOL
You know what this game needs?
Megalodon
I think the idea of having focus on non lethal weapons is pretty interesting still. It changes the way you approach problems in a fresh way but at the same time keeps the threatening creatures threatening.
Muff: is it worth a dive?
Oh...
"Let's keep games separate from reality." Is the best advice I have heard in a long, long time. I mean, it's a game...
Appreciate the review Mack dude! :)
This guy right here is a dev :)
A wild developer appears
quick question - i have an i5 6600k + GTX 970. would i experience significant lag on this one? fantastic looking game by the way
I have a 1070 with a 6500 and although the game runs mostly 60+fps I get a lot of frame drops
We're working hard on the glitches and frame drops. Should be fixed in time.
You can play on a hardcore mode where if you die in the game it is game over.
He said that there isn't any real consequence to death. I'm just pointing out that there can be.
Great review Mack. Love that you are re-visiting these games and hope to see more of these kind of reviews. Also excited to watch the channel all year with all the content you have planned (according to christmas update video). Thank you !
Using keyboard would be such a big design flaw. If you don't have a wireless key board, how are you supposed to turn 180 degrees while using keyboard and vr. You would be turning your body, while having to keep your hands behind you to control what you do. And if you can use mouse to turn, then what's the point of VR. It would just be like putting your face two inches away from a tiny monitor.
How is using a controller to turn any different from a mouse?
well you see luckily you are a human and humans have this handy thing called a neck and unless you have been in some horrible accident your neck can turn at least 90 degrees and more if your flexible or double jointed.
You have to learn that when you look at the side mirror of your car, the car is not supposed to turn.
give this man a nobel prize
srsly
The controller rant was hilarious but I hate them even for driving cars
12:53 actually bleeder have been known to wander into the shallows. and i saw a Crabsnake in the shallows for some odd reason.
Oh wow, Mack, I was just wondering if Subnautica is better now and went on youtube searching for Worth A buy's take on this game, i remember you already reviewed it. And this video pop's up, "6 minutes ago". The gods must favor me today ! Thanks Mack.
Greetings from France =)
I wish ark would run like this
That's a really stupid reason to not have guns. It's not like the game takes place in a school. Or like there are children in the game. That's super stupid
The game director wishes for a world where gun violence isn't a thing anymore, and he wants this game to have NO guns because of that.
Thunder Star well the game is suffering a little from it. Honestly the thought is nice but this is a early access steam game. It's not gonna make a change at all. Maybe if it was a AAA game but otherwise no-one is really gonna notice.
He doesn't want the game to turn into a massacre the alien life form game, they wanted to take a more friendly approach and have it so the main objective is to run not kill
taco head meh
+taco head
Again, the game suffers because of it. This isn't like Outlast where running can be fun/challenging. Running away from combat in this game is simplistically boring, and eventually it just becomes tedious.
It's the reason me and my friends aren't buying it. It simply won't be atmospheric for any of us if we're spending 100% of the game grinding for resources and slowly drifting away whenever a boring enemy shows up.
I just in love with how you saying “co-op”
Your controller rant was beautiful. I agree with you so much. I really hope that they end up fixing the VR support.
Glad you revisited subnautica :)
How many times do the Dev's have to say there is NOT going to be ANY Multi-player function added to this game, before folks get the message? Apparently, it needs to be repeated daily.
BlackWolf lol what?? The selling point of this game wasn't: let's have 10000 cyclops running around. It's a survival game meant to instill fear, loneliness, and in some cases horror in the player. The immersion is completely lost by adding more players. You're supposed to struggle with surviving and living in a hostile ocean environment with only yourself. Fuck the streamlining and pandering to a bunch of kids. If the developers wanted a multiplayer survival game it would have been one of the The first things on their list. As far as weapons are concerned that would just make the entire game boring.
This is a good idea, Mack, revisiting games while no notable releases are coming out. Good job, mate.
Great revisit, Mack! I love Subnautica and have been playing it for months so I was very happy to see this. I'm also very glad you gave the regular survival mode a chance because it drastically changes the game.
They've done a lot of work on the resource-gathering and grinding and I think they're doing a great job, though after a few playthroughs, the sequence you kind of have to follow gets a bit linear if you want to get certain items. I would like to see that randomized so you didn't always go to the same place at the same time to get the same thing, but they're still working on that so we'll see.
Also don't forget there's a Hardcore mode where you only have one life. That's a lot of fun, but I only recommend it for the masochists because it can punish you severely and all of your progress will be toast.
PS - Worthadive gave me the damn giggles this morning, thank you.
The devs are currently working to completely finish the storyline. They hope to start on coop after the official release.
source?
they are not. they may work on another game which will be similar to subnautica, but wont put coop in subnautica. Think of Dont Starve
no they said they wont add coop.... Its fucking annoying ! the whole communauty wants it
geordi rendum not the whole community...most rage kiddos though
geordi rendum ohh stop being a baby you know why they wont put it in its becuase it wouldnt work as easily if they did ad co op they would have to remake the game so everyone can get everything and by that i mean the PDA the aninations the story everything becuase imagine 1 person grabbing the pda of the floor and youre friend comes up and doesnt find any is that gonna help him find out whats going on and its not like there could be 2 of the same pda in one area so the only way for this to work is if they make it so if 1 person gets sonething the other person automaticly gets it meaning animations pda story battles unlocks and all that meaning if youre playing with someone you should never be seperated or else it wouldnt make sense to why he gets an animation of the emperor talking to him while his friend is on top of the ocean looking for resources
I adore your vids, mack! I think I've seen them all at least twice. Sometimes we meet up with friends and have a wonderfull laugh thanks to you! Keep it up! And (I wouldn't write it here, if you wouldn't have mention it in your vids) we feel deeply sorry for whats going on in your private life. We wish you all the best, mack! And bunny and bell, too! Yeah, non-english speaking person here😂
Too bad it dosnt work with my triple monitor setup. I really wish they made a multi-monitor fix :)! What would u think about that mack?
"worth a dive *ding*"
made me chuckle
it's great you finally got around revisiting these games, got the impression you have forgotten all the others outside of 7 days to die :p. you said before you plan on revisiting empyrion and that's great! after all an up to date overview of it's current condition is needed :)
Sorry but i have to correct 1 and 1/2 things 1.) When you enter your base your inventory is "secured" when you leave than die anything added to your inventory is than deleted and 2.) the knife wasn't intended as much a weapon as it is a necessary tool for survival (Harvesting resources) -(sorry if i sound rude i really don't mean to)-
You do loose items when you die, but you only loose the items that you gathered between the moment you left your base and when you died (if you haven't returned to your base to save your items)
IIRC The frames drop because the terrain is voxel based atm, and it loads in chunks. The devs said that they are planning on removing the teraforming functionality and making the terrain static in order to end the frame spikes.
You can reach the surface from 100m with 10 seconds of air left if you 1). put your tool away and use both hands to swim and 2). use an Air Bladder.
ah cool, thanks
Hey Mack! Great vids! Thanks for the honest inputs! Quick Question. Do you think it might make its way unto consoles at some point? I love these type of games And I really want this to make it unto the ps4 or maybe even the Switch. Thanks.
Good review. Great game (have had it 2 years now or so). Also completely agree with your take on the guns/needs for them/knives/sandyhook part.
So happy this game works fine with a controller. Controller allows for some people to play laid back and not straight in front of M&K. It's easier on the back.
Silence Will Fall You can use a keyboard standing up
Its best for your back
Dude, that's just talking to talk.
You can use a keyboard while hanging upside down if you want, it is not the point.
I can play just so much hjours standing straight in front of M&K, but then, I need a controller game to relax my back. And a controller allows me that without getting a special gear.
I have friends who play on M&K, until they want to move to their laptop on the bed and switch to a controller.
Plus, don't dare saying M&K is healthier, it is not. The position of the forearms when M&King is absolutely not natural and is a constrain on wrists, forearms and shoulders.
I've often got a sore back and even repetitive strain on my fingers from using a M&K. I actually prefer using a controller for open world games and long gaming sessions.
I don't want to be sitting up, focused and playing skill based games all the time. Sometimes I like to chill after a 10 hour shift at work and I want to relax.
Ergo keyboards are thing
Is the background music in this review from the game? or some other music track .
The only question now is, when do we start using mkb to drive our cars?
Brilliant review Mac, hope they take some of your suggestions to mind.
You can change the graphics more in the debug controls.
I personally like the game without guns, not because of the reason the developer stated. I think your statement on implementing guns was correct. But, I it does a great job of conveying powerlessness (at times). It really shows that humans are just small creatures, that bend to nature's will like everything else. Humans aren't on top, no matter how hard we try. I personally think guns would give us too much power in this game, but that's just my opinion.
trentad14 yea me too i agree its mostly fun becuase with guns the creatures of the game wouldnt be as scary as they are i mean honestly ive played monster games with guns and there not scary at all once you get youre guns out but thus games atmosphere and horror is just cherry on top of the ice cream and i love it there is not a moment of relief and thats how surviv game is suppose to be you shouldnt constently feel safe on an unknown planet with unknown creatures sooo
It was in an abandoned pda I think which explains why there aren't any guns. Apparently humans are now really advanced that they have united and have no need for conflict and weapons, which is stupid considering they're exploring in outer space with a risk of aliens with advanced weaponry shooting them or disintegrate them in one shot.
Actually that's not it. Like, AT ALL. The first time you craft a knife, your AI notes that the reason you don't have weapons is that after a massive riot on a colony, the company you work for, Alterra, removed all weapon schematics from their fabricators and constructors. The sole exception is a knife, since a knife was successfully classified as a multi-use tool and a survival essential. That happens to be used to shank something.
The torpedoes that you can launch create localized vortexes to stun and disrupt creatures. The Stasis Gun is apparently used to suspend objects for easy repair. The Propulsion cannon is, obviously, used to lift and move heavy objects.
This is great review! Funny and informative.
LOL, "I only want to use a controller is when I'm driving a car and I don't see any cars under water." 2:33
When I played M&K using the rift I constantly lost my hand placement on my keyboard because I couldn't see it every now and then. I think that is their reasoning for justifying the controller, though I don't see why it just isn't a toggle.
This man is "screaming" PC master race and I love it
Love this game. It is great at creating a sense of claustrophobia and a feeling of loneliness. When you go deep down, like below 400-500 meters, into dark cave systems and your submarine begins to run low on energy and your oxygen supply is limited; well your palms will start to get sweaty.
subed as soon as it started his energy is amazing
I play this game on a Dell Inspiron laptop and I have some frame issues from surface to deep levels as well. Otherwise it's fine. I think it might just be an optimization thing
Mack, can you do a review on DEFCON?
Preston Taylor your comment is like ten years late
revisit ARK
It's next
your opinion on controllers are spot on
at least someone has common sense
Ding Ding Ding Ding DING DIIIIIIIIIING.
7 Days to Die when Alpha 16 hits?
I can already hear the dings
Thanks for revisiting mack!
My guess on how the ship scratched, is a guy was pointing a laser in the pilots eyes the pilot got distracted hit a bird and the ship exploded
A really strange reason to not have guns. Have had the game since the early days and wondered why there were no deadly weapons. Thought is was probably because of the strange red pawn mechanics but at least they could add a harpoon gun. Not many mass shootings with those.
I use a controller for some games and mouse and keyboard for others. It doesn't bother me in the slightest and the PS4 controller is really nice to use.
Just sayin'.
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion :P I prefer keyboard but that's what I use to play most games
its not about opinions or personal preferences when it comes to the actual argument. mouse is objectively better than controller stick in every way. aiming, reacting to the enemies, simply looking around etc etc. only exeptions are arcade (and/or simcade) racing games and sports games. other than that, it is not debatable.
Yay, Glad you listened to us :)
Hey Mack, the more you share your views on the world, the more I like you. Just blunt no bullshit logic. Thank you
About the knife and lack of guns, I seem to remember the devs saying this: (Interpreted, I can't find the exact quote now) "We don't want to add weapons because it ruins the experience. You wouldn't feel the same fear with a gun in your hands compared to a knife. We also want it so that players aren't inclined to kill everything. It feels more natural, avoiding a shark near one location, and swimming a different path, instead of shooting it and continuing on. They aren't monsters, they're creatures. They aren't out to get you, they're out to survive."
They fixed this (IMO) with the stasis rifle. It doesn't kill anything, but instead freezes them, so you can get away safely. Like the reaper for example. I always stasis it (Full stasis charge lasts 1 minute) and swim along my way. Or when I'm trying to get a resource, I freeze any hostile creatures, take the resource, and get on my way.
Also, if you really want to kill something, attach a drill arm and a grappling hook to the prawn. Grapple onto a creature and drill it. I've found I can even kill reapers with it.
Or, use the propulsion cannon arm and use that as a gun. With the whole fact you can load it, it acts similarly to a gun, it just doesn't use bullets. Bring some titanium chunks or gas pods and use them as ammo. It normally deters and kills small creatures.
EDIT: Freezing a medium-large creature and using gas pod torpedoes works wonders too.
Also, if you want to kill a Reaper Leviathan, it will take around 6 Hardened knives in my experience. I don't think they re-spawn either, so removing them can be beneficial, but costly and risky.
Maybe they just need a Harpoon, and some depth charges for the bigger stuff. That would be a compromise....
"Aw but do you not remember the Harpoon massacre of 1675, when Captain Codpiece lost his marbles and went on a harpoon spree in the local town"......fuck
Mack, do you still do Twitch streams? I'm still subscribed to your Mackscorner Twitch channel but it says you haven't streamed in over a year and a half. Cheers.
Maybe I will reactivate someday
That'd be awesome.
Hey Mac can you review the steam controller? It's supposedly the best parts of a keyboard and mouse on a controller.
Yeah it does actually look less shite than a normal controller
... agreed a Mack review of the steam controller would be awesome. I have heard mixed views on it. Mack's view would settle it for me.
Totally agree with your opinions on keeping games separate to reality. If they are that way inclined they'll do it. Simple. Love the videos and your work man keep it up!
hey Mack are you going to revisit ark since you doing some off the other revisits?
Man what would i give to see few episodes of this on Mackscorner
Could you review Rock God Tycoon?
10:06 ban assault knives
You complained about that there are no lethal weapons in the game, I have a couple of things to tell you:
1. The reason why you have a knife in the game is because it is SUCH an essential survival tool.
2. There are other ways of dealing with the animals, such as: shooting them away with the propulsion cannon.
3. You can just kill them with the drill for the P.R.A.W.N.
That "WorthaDive" alone is worth a like. Have it sir have it!
I have read a lot of accredited studies on this. The only consistent statistically significant conclusion is that video games increase aggression in already aggressive individuals. This translates to a loose and very circumstantial correlation between games and violence, and nothing approaching causality.
And on the tests made on children with violent games they found out children get the same kind of aggression that they would get from sports,which isn't dangerous.
i find it quite enjoyable with control pad, 55 inch screen and studio monitors for audio ;)
Surely it's great that this game doesn't have lethal weapons? It means that you know that since you don't have the means to kill most predators easily, you are indoctrinated throughout your experience that your only option is to avoid them, which means that they don't become any less dangerous late game.
Yah the lack of guns is not mentioned in his Outlast review, and only briefly mentioned in his Alien Isolation review. Not sure why he's hung up on it in this game.
Mack do you have a list of upcoming reviews?
All the big games and will revisit all the worthy indie ones
ok thanks. just waiting for empyrion again☺. grate video as usual. thank you.
did u know that u can just ram the enemies with ur mini sub? and i'm quite sure that u can do the same with the bigger one
"Now entering Ecological deadzone"
*Screams Hysterically*
Hi guys im just wondering whats mack steam name?
Love the words of the developer in everyone of your videos, always makes me laugh
Hi Mack, will you be doing a review on Osiris: New Dawn soon ?
Great video mack, as always! But I have to differ with the need of lethal guns. I played it quite a lot and I never felt the need of having anything more dangerous than the knife.
Especially in a combination with a stun gun, give those swimming fucks a run for their flaps.
I just want to point out that I was using a keyboard and mouse on Subnautica VR just the other day. It works perfectly fine for me
EXCELLENT REVIEW.... thanks Mac!!!
"we happy few" review please Mack you're the only honest reviewer
Mack are we gonna get another series of talks with you and mesh
I need that in my life
Hey Mack, just a question. Do you like controllers?
there's a stark difference between wanting no lethal weapons and putting a player into a survival environment with no means to hunt/protect themselves from wildlife. a simple harpoon/spear gun for defence and spear fishing would be enough to add another dimension without reflecting on real world violence, especially as you said, knives are lethal weapons as well so if you can kill why force it to be up close and personal versus gameplay that rarely reflects the nastiness of inflicting knife wounds on things.
Clicked like after hearing the controller rant!XD And I know we're not the only ones that feel the same!
From 2:20 onwards is the reason i give you my like.. never laughed so hard
+Worth A Buy Is there video where you describe why you prefer co-op so much and what makes a game perfect for co-op....I'm very interested to get your opinion on the matter as I really enjoy your insight into a lot of these game reviews.
You make good points about the game and separation of fantasy and reality.
I'll buy the game and will play it with my steam controller, with a big fat grin on my face.
Great review, but I don't recommend anyone to watch it who hasn't experienced the game from scratch yet. I started this game without having seen any footage whatsoever and seeing this video, I can tell you that my playthrough for sure wouldn't have been nearly as amazing if I saw/heard all the things Mack mentions/shows here. This is the best game I played 2016, and should be experienced without knowing ANYTHING. Just my opinion :)
Knives primary use is a tool.
Guns primary use is a weapon.
You can usually perform most tasks without the aid of a gun.
Any chance you revisit Space Engineers?
12:31 You have now entered the leafy zone.
I agree with the controller thing, i only use them for racing games. But this game really has no need for guns. There are so many options how you can kill some beasts. For example have a couple of crash fish with you and shoot em on a target with the Stasis Rifle. A bad side effect also is only to wound a big beast as it changes its territory. And that might be closer to your base than you like it :)
No coop from the Devs. This was posted in August:
Hey everyone,
We've been getting tons and tons of questions and requests about whether we're going to add multiplayer to Subnautica or not.
Back in our early prototypes we always had multiplayer in the back of our mind. But we had so much to learn about the game, multiplayer was never a priority. Eventually we hit early access and now it would take many man-years to add any kind of multiplayer to Subnautica. We don't want to spend years more working on Subnautica before v1.0, so we sadly have come to terms with the fact that we won't be adding any kind of multiplayer or coop to the game.
Maybe one day we'll start over on a different engine and make a new Subnautica game based around coop. A game where one person is piloting the sub, another person is poring over readouts and computers, another is repairing the engines and yet another is radioing for help in a dark biome, where their Seamoth is almost out of juice. We would love to play that game.
But until then, we're going to finish up Subnautica the way it was meant to be: one person trying to survive in in a massive, dangerous, beautiful, alien world.
Loving the revisits.
They better make this game coop, if not it will go down as one of the saddest and most unfortunate oversights in the history of everything alive.
Haven't seen you do a WAB on Exanima, another EA title on steam (though not a survival game:). I would love to see your opinion on that game!
great review, totally worth a buy, but last patch caused a lot more lag issues just FYI. I'm sure it will get fixed soon these devs are great!
Couldn't agree more about your no mouse support in VR rant.
I'm not expecting something crazy like touch support, I just don't understand why the fuck they disabled the perfectly working mouse support for VR.
Might buy this game soon after watching this review, cheers Mac!