Top 5 Carnivore Myths Debunked
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Article on Carnivore Nutrient Intakes Falling Short:
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Cooked Veggies 75% Lower Rheumatoid Arthritis:
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Meat 2x Arthritis:
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60-80% of plasma oxalate is derived from endogenous oxalate:
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Glycine Rats (Not Donghua Jinlong Glycine Factory):
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Vitamin C Intake Average NIH:
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Herbivore vs Carnivore Sodium Needs Quote:
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Meat and Sodium Higher Kidney Stone Risk:
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All Meat Scurvy Case Study 1 - Dubai:
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“Irritability, which you will see in the comments.” Lmaoooo😂 you’re on a roll.
Well. Irritability is a cortisol issue... Saturated fat stimulate leptin, carbs stimulate ghrelins... Ghrelins stimulate cortisol...
It's usually the Vegans who act as nazi heathen...
Ha ha, that's every vegan ever, right? Actually I do know a couple of cool vegans.
Yeah, I enjoyed that one, too.
Makes me think of Dr Bergs reaction on nutrition made simple channel😅 He didn't took it well
😂
A one year Carnivore family member with 340 cholesterol told me its just a matter of time before I get a serious disease and mental health issues, eating plastic sausages and plastic patties, toxic nuts/seeds/beans/spinach/salads/fruits/grains and not getting animals fat to my brain. When I asked them to please respect my choices as I respect their choices, they ghosted me.
Did they literally go ghost on you? I mean with that diet...
How often are vegans doing what you just decribed? You know there are countless memes of butthurt vegans? Why are you guys trying to make it seem like you are the chill and normal ones? By the way, if youre still afraid of cholesterol, youre an absolute clown
@@darcylauren1934😂😂😂
That has to do with character not food.
@@justmechristin7 So food doesn't influence character?
Microplastics is a big thing now. My friends have no problem of me being vegan for 9 years or so. I now just tell them how nice it is to eat from the lowest possible place in the food chain. Least possible plastics, yay!
What do you think pesticides and herbicides are made from. Unless you are eating from a garden you grow. Commercially grown plants are highly toxic
That’s great - except that’s almost the smallest part of it! Super optimised health, the most effective personal action you can take to help climat change, no animal violence. oh and let’s add the super aid to combat the super serious antibiotic resistance issue.
Not only is it the least.. farm animals are fed plastic! there's like an allowance ..or 3% or something in their feed! and you can actually see the plastic in some feeds!
Yes! People often forget why mercury is so concentrated in predatory fish like Tuna l-it’s higher on the food chain
Even if microplastics are harmless, it is still a symptom of larger problems in food production
Thanks Mic. Going on 5 years vegan, after 45 years vegetarian.
Same here, 11 years vegan now.
Jealous
Me too, 41 years vegetarian, 13 years vegan. Excellent health and blood markers.
Condolences
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The side effects of a carnivore diet sound absolutely awful. I had enough digestive issues on an omnivore diet that I can’t even imagine going carnivore. So much happier, healthier, and feeling better completely plant based.
My side effects are lovely 🤣
No more obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth
cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany)
heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool
edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less
shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
The carnivore diet is the only one that when I’m on it I shit perfectly
Same 🌱
I tried carnivore before I read the effects of it (after having issues myself, I started googling)… their heroes like Ken Berry and that chiropractor led me down a path of very high cholesterol, BP and high glycemic levels (they should try measuring every hour for over 3 hours like I did. A meat based meal sent my BG levels into the 170s even after 5 HOURS. I’m not diabetic or even pre-diabetic. My hba1c is completely normal). Diabetes is in my family so I’m very focused on it
Carnivore is a scam. Plant based is real, and wfpb vegan even better! My cholesterol is 120s with LDL at 68 🎉🎉
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Plants are the scam - pushed by every governmental health organisation - the exact ones that wanted to needlessly operate on me!
You're just going with the flow - good luck
@@Meathead-10810😂😂😂 sorry to tell you that I also don't have any of those issues on a plant based diet 😘💚🌱
Some of the things you mention went away with my plant based diet and some of the other issues, is something I never knew was something you could get 😵💫😂
Imagine never getting to enjoy a piece of fruit. Instead you get organ meats lmao. Sad.
Imagine not being able to eat nice salmon steak with butter or some delicious spicy honey wings. Instead you get soy and supplements lmao. Sad and cringe.
After 5+ years carnivore, I still do not crave fruit but I usually have chocolate when I have a cheat day 🤣
Fruit is not so desirable.
To never again enjoy fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta. The list goes on. It’s such a depressing and boring diet isn’t it.
@@helencaleb2188 But if you get rid of asthma and can finally relax, breath and sleep for 8 hours, you gladly forget about all that fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta ....
@@GarudaLegends sounds like a limited diet, my plant based diet is full of variety and flavor from all parts of the world. Curries, soups, burritos, tacos, stews, stir frys and none of it clogs my arteries either! I can eat all of the delicious healthy foods with none of the suffering included as well. Health benefits are a bonus.
I think carnivores saw Little Shop of Horrors and thought it was a documentary. XD
Yeah all 98% of us world population that is meat eatters compered to you rabbits
Either that or they believe that Jeffrey Dahmer is the new messiah.
@@ceeemm1901 LOL!!
Hahaha.
I was thinking return of the killer 🍅's .
Dr Chafee got his degree from this film and skipped his cancer biology class when discussing Bovine Lukemiamia Virus.😢
70% of human salivary protein is devoted to dealing with tannins (which come from plants). From "Traces of dietary patterns in saliva of hominids: Profiling salivary amino acid fingerprints in great apes and humans", Feb 2023
That is relevant, in what way?
Not to mention we evolved starch desolving amylase which makes up 40-50% of the protein in our saliva to literally convert starches into sugars.
Because all evidence, including the most important (health outcomes) shows plant based diets are optimal for human health.
@@nastasedrif you can't figure out how that information is relevant to the conversation, you have bigger issues.😂
@@blackpalacemusic Too much cholesterol and iron blocking blood flow to the brain kind of problems. I see it every day during outreach effort.
Why is it that most people on a long-term carnivore diet end up having a really red face?
This is the reason my brother thankfully didn't try the diet for more than 5 days. That and he felt like he was sick the whole time as well
Yes! And they get a kind of hardened puffiness.
Redness in the face is a symptom of inflammation according to traditional Chinese medicine
I know, right? It's hilarious.
It'd be nice to think that they're blushing with shame. But of course they don't HAVE any shame. 😉
How about "egg has all the nutrients you need"
And all the cholesterol you don't!
Isn’t if funny carnivores eat eggs and dairy, meanwhile no carnivore animals eat that? Show me a lion eating milk lol
Eggs are also high in sodium.
@@ManpowerPewPew many animals eat eggs though. But carnivore animals even eat grass and plants, even fruits when they need it and its avaidable.
@@ManpowerPewPewAdorable lion cubs. But only for a few months then they go 🦓. 😅💚🌱💙
I’m surprised no one talks about the fact that true carnivorous animals produce their own vitamin c in their livers whereas fruit bats, Guinea pigs and humans (and apes) need to get it from the diet, presumably because we have adapted to a high plant based diet.
not true. humans that eat high protein low carb diets actually need less vitamin c which can be taken from red meat. we also see that those who eat higher carb diets also need more vitamin c which they take from plant based foods.
Because many herbivores _also_ make their own vitamin C. Like homo-sapiens sapiens primary food source... Fatty ruminant animals... Which we then eat... For Vitamin C...
And we know we ate that because of recent analysis of 350,000 year old bones. Vitamin C is actually a recessive gene, ours got deactivated because we didn't need it "for some reason". It might have something to do with the fact that humans live nearly 3x longer than primates.
@@nastasedrsource?
This exactly. It is so starkly simple. Humans do not create vitamin C in their bodies, thus they must get it from their diet. What is the best source? Fruits and vegetables. Carnivores create their own vitamin C. If this isn't the clearest fact pointing to human dietary physiology, I don't know what is.
@@RawandCookedVegan I am carnivore for 2 years and I do not get vitamin C from fruits or vegetables and I do not supplement. No scurvy so far. Explain that.
Had blood work 3 weeks ago. Will admit that I'm not 100% vegan. Moving in that direction. Some fish when catch it myself. But over the last year I've gone months without any fish. In the last 3 months almost none. B12 was at the high end. Iron was at this high end of the range. I even gave blood to reduce to the middle of the range. Vit D was 32 in the ideal range. Ate a garden full of collards and kale over the winter which gave me plenty of iron along with the lentils and chickpeas. 5'10 165 lb. BMI below 25.
It is beyond me how anyone could be healthy and happy eating just red meat. Love my huge plates of low calorie low fat diverse veggies for dinner.
While I believe in the benefits of plant based diets, I do think some animal products are good for you like fish. It's high in b12, omega 3 dha/epa, as well as things like creatine and taurine all of which are impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplements. The body does make taurine and creatine, but as we age, the body makes a lot less of it.
In the seventh day adventist blue zone in loma linda, the pesco-vegetarians out lived the vegans in this demographic.
C15 fatty acid, which is a newly discovered possibly essential fatty acid, is also impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplementation. Studies have shown low c15 levels were associated with faster aging. Grass fed butter is the best source of c15, you only need 1 tablespoon, which will keep you well under the rda for saturated fat.
If you are going to go on a straight vegan diet, I would consider getting supplements for all the things I mentioned.
I don't think eating red meat is healthy, but fish is good for you, just make sure and eat the ones low in mercury.
I got short of breath doing carnivore, literally thought I was going to die. Added carbs back and it went away...
Sounds scary. Glad you’re better.
My uncle almost died because of the carnivore diet, need to be really careful with all this misinformation online. But now he wants me to cook him plant based meals, yay! Also, glad to hear your better now!
i BET you did it not more than a few days, few weeks max. Look for someone in the carnivore community who "died of short breath" hahahaha
You guys are being ridiculous
@@La_TangoMariaahahahahahaha your uncle almost diet on the carnivore diet? Do you actually believe that? Please give me some argument, he almost died of what? How are you vegans always making such ridiculous unfounded statements? Who is dying of a carnivore diet??
Id HEAVILY suggest you talking to a carnivore who was an ex vegan, there are plenty. Youre deluded and your uncle didnt almost die because of the carnivore diet hahahaha
@@oranges557nice try shawn baker
that's awesome that 50 plus beauty switched to plant based and she didn't get lost further down the batshit carnivore rabbit hole
As a vegetarian who’s just trying to take care of my family the best I know how to - videos like this help me breath again. Seriously, to try giving my family a well-rounded plate and hear “experts & professional” telling me that plants are actually giving them toxins 🤯?! It’s so overwhelming constantly shifting through all of the starkly conflicting dietary advice out there. I research and try to stay well informed, but hearing “they’re lying about the science” repetitively really starts to make one think they’re going insane 😅.
If you guys feel good on a plant based diet then great. There are outliers but most people on plant based diets (which is most people) have too many issues to list here.
@@steveherridge8965 my family isn’t vegetarian. My diet is predominantly vegetarian, but I alter my eating based on how I feel occasionally.
Who gets rich if we eat a plant based diet? Plants are the cheapest and easiest to grow foods. There are no monopolies controlling the 86,000 edible plant foods. Meanwhile, a handful of companies control the meat industry and they lobby the world's governments heavily to get rid of any science that shows how toxic their foods are. The design and pay for hundreds of studies that try to show benefits from their products. They have yet to succeed. There is no scientific evidence in medical history that humans benefit from animal consumption anywhere. There are thousands of studies showing the opposite. And this evidence doesn't make any rich person richer. Think about that.
@@steveherridge8965I you had the long list, you’d list them. Carnivores know how to lie. Put up your evidence to take down your post!
@@courag1 Wayyy too many assumptions, which is typical as vegan's brains tend to shrink (that's one issue) - I can link the source of a 5 years study if you like, along with anxiety, depression, extreme weigh loss or extreme weigh gain (like most fruitarians), B12 deficiency along with deficiencies in choline, Carnitine etc. skin issues, sunken eyes (which is very typical in most long term vegans), thin necks, terrible conversion of certain plant vitamins etc. etc. How’s this little list for starters, or am I lying?
I've personally consulted more than a few long-term carnivore dieters in my career as a dietitian, and every single one of them was or was about to start taking a multivitamin every day because they ran into trouble with symptomatic deficiency. It happens 100% of the time, if they don't supplement. So anyone doing pure carnivore for a long time, who says they don't have deficiencies and are not taking supplements, are LYING TO YOU.
Shawn has obviously been lying. He got called out for having bananas on his counter, claimed they weren't his, then deleted the video, backtracked, and said he was actually eating fruit but was just "experimenting" to test lmhr theory despite not being lmhr himself.
He has said in a couple of podcasts that he takes a couple of days off each week. Meanwhile the poor people who try to follow "pure" carnivore get into all sorts of problems ...
@kieranstyx3633 No, he made a followup vid and said the bananas were his kids'. He does have an entire family living there.. they're not on his diet necessarily.
I don't plan on taking an supplements
@@llicit1833a couple days off each week? Would you clarify? He repeatedly says it's a meat diet, sometimes eggs. Very little else.
I'm 65 yrs old tried the carnivore diet because my new Holistic Doctor told me it was better then my 8 yr Vegan diet that i am on. In 48 days on carnivore my gout went away, I lost 6 lbs. ,I don't have to take my diabetic pills anymore, my swollen prostrate is getting better , my brain fog is almost gone, my knee pain is gone, I stopped taking my blood pressure meds, I am sleeping through the night without having to get up to pee 2 times, my eye flouters are gone, my long distance vision has improved, my bald spot on the top of my head is starting new hair growth. I had to go back to Vegan because my wife said my face had a pink look to it she liked it better when i had a gray looking face.
😂😂😂
Whole vegan foods could do even more for you.
I don't usually comment on videos but just couldn't help myself after reading some of the comments. For most of my life I ate the SAD and then about 10 years ago I went Vegan believing it to be healthier. It is absolutely healthier than the SAD. That said I gained weight on the diet and didn't feel healthy. Plus I have had 12 calcium oxalate kidney stones over the years; the last one they had to go get with a laser. Many plants are high in oxalates; too numerous to name but nuts and soy products are at the top of the list. About 5 years ago I switched to Keto and lost 50 pounds and felt great and have transitioned to carnivore which has helped me even more. If you think vegan is a good diet for you great and more power to you but I've noticed one difference on this blog. Carnivores talk about the benefits on their diet and what they feel is lacking in a vegan diet. Vegans talk about carnivores and not in a good way. Our ancestors ate what they could find or kill. Plants weren't readily available. Broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, etc. are all hybrids that we've scienced to make palatable. Most of which have only been available for about 4000 years. I would suggest talking about the benefits of your diet will win you more converts than bad mouthing equally intelligent people who opt to follow a different path.
@homie3461 I absolutely was vegan and got plenty of exercise. Walking 5 hours a day delivering mail is exercise. Prior to that I spent 22 years in the USMC. I know exercise. I didn't say I was fat; I said I gained weight. I was 5'10" and around 215 and have been lifting weights pretty much my whole life so I ate a lot of beans for the protein. The problem was TOO many carbs. I also didn't say there weren't any plants in the past. You do know that ruminant animals can eat plants that humans can't right? Multiple stomachs do wonders for digesting plants that would be toxic for us. Moose and other deer eat tree bark and buffalo live off of grass. Try eating those things and see how that goes. The example you equate are childish at best. Eating differently is now the same as being a child sex abuser. What do you think humans ate prior to farming started roughly 14000 years ago? We ate what ever we could find or kill ... Mammoth was a favorite. What about indigenous populations in northern Canada, Alaska and similar places? Think they were farming on ice or eating the abundant plant matter? Indigenous populations in the US used to follow the buffalo migrations. Tribes in the Dakotas are said to have lived almost entirely off meat. That's human history and you can't change it. Our digestive systems is omnivorous. I repeat myself that instead of trying to have a conversation vegans choose to belittle anyone that is opposed to their dogma. Thanks for proving my point.
Agree, the way he talks makes him seem to have a lack of good arguments, almost shouting at all those weird carnivores.
Well done for turning your health around.
Def gonna need a Part 2 to this video. Thanks, Mic!
That’s a lot of challenges keto and carnivore followers go through. I’d say wfpb is easier and safer.
What challenges? Stop listening to myths.
Symptomatic deficiencies in the comment that follows this one maybe.
@@nastasedrmultiple meta anyways show 40% increase in all cause mortality on low carb, meanwhile opposite on low fat plant based
Great stuff as always mikey boy
There's a lesser known myth that carnivores have expressed to me, they think that the consumption of plant foods have somehow caused human brains to de-evolve and become smaller and they always say this under the presumption of their other myth of how they think human beings were all purely carnivorous before the agricultural revolution.
They don't know how evolution works then.
What evidence do you have that they were not mostly carnivorous before the agricultural revolution?
@@La_TangoMariaado you?
@@fabienpaillusson7390 I think the question that should be asked is what evidence do you have that they were? Even remains of neanderthals have been discovered to have traced of plant material including that of nuts on their teeth and they lived in Europe during the ice age meanwhile homo sapiens were still living in the warmer equatorial region, every isolated tribe that either exists now or has existed eats other things than meat and it wouldn't make sense or be convenient for them to only eat as such anyway. You carnivores neglect education and learning in favor of feelings.
@@fabienpaillusson7390paleontology
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great vid mic. thanks coworker has been doing keto for 6 months....he lost a bunch of weight...but his list of supplements and ldl is on the rise. my personal feeling are that it doesn't matter what my ancestors ate, or even what I ate at my last meal. What matters is what I will eat...and that is a wfpb vegan diet. The science is behind it and it is compassionate and less harmful to our only place to live.
What's so bad with eating an orange, bell pepper, snow peas...
Those oxalates will kill you, man.
The point of low carb is to up-regulate your fat and ketone burning metabolism. Ie. Ketosis. An orange or pepper isn't going to hurt anyone but that's the opposite direction.
Everything
The carnivore diet runs on a very carefully balanced metabolic regime of fats, bullshit, cult like denial and painful constipation. If you add a vegetable to that it falls apart violently.
Soaked in glysophate. Hydroponic veg has no natural nutrition may as well eat cardboard.
The oxalate dumping reminds me of how people adopting the raw food diet will attribute all negative symptoms to “detoxing.” I knew a lot of people who followed a raw diet (raw fruit, veg, nuts, and honey), and would have fatigue, headaches, and a lot of other symptoms of energy deficit, but they would always say, “I’m detoxing.” I would argue that a carnivore diet is far worse than a raw diet (one that excludes any raw meat, eggs, or dairy), though.
It’s really annoying because they call it the “prime diet”. Like name one real athlete who follows this diet. Not a guy who took bronze at his local gym’s moving boulders challenge. A nba player, nfl player, soccer star, tennis player. Someone who actually needs to compete at a high level. They send you the same article that LeBron did keto for one summer 10 years ago and that Kobe post his prime cut out processed sugars. That’s not even carnivore…
Again with the "ancestral" argument: 50 million years or so of plant predominant primates; Homo species approx 2 million years; Homo sapiens - few hundred thousand years. So plant predominant phase is 25-150 times longer .... Perhaps why so much research showing plants are good for us
True. And as homo as well as homo sapiens we were still predominantly plant eaters. Despite the macho hunter fantasies.
That's not how evolution works, you only keep the adaptations you require for your environment, Humans stopped eating predominantly plants to hunt millions of years back and continued doing it right up until agriculture which is when Human's started getting smaller, weaker and more prone to disease.
@@ryanwellington7493 You are talking about hunting and ignoring foraging. Typical mistake.
@@carinaekstrom1 because it only accounted for around 20% of total food intake and that's based on all data we have not just cherry picked samples and then you have tribes like the Inuit who survived on just meat without issues since y'know they lived in the arctic.
@@ryanwellington7493 The Inuit have a the story of a god that gives them constipation and are one of the sickest populations ever. They have osteoporosis in their teens because of their diet.
Why are so many carnivore youtubers so radiant?
No offense truly- but the only "carnivores" i've seen look radiant look radiant with redness and high blood pressure blush 😭😭
If a flat earther decided to make up a diet, it would be the carnivore diet.
vegans are like flat earthers. They are delusional to the point they actually think their diet is healthy, when it has been proven to be unhealthy and deficient.
Yeah just completely disregard the diet our species evolved on for millions of years right up until agriculture when health coincidentally started to decline in Human's 😂
😂 truth
@@ryanwellington7493hunters and gatherers with occasional animals? Sure… “carnivore”, lol nope
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Ikr? The lack of clear thinking is just unbelievable.
Mic the Vegan, This is great! I liked it and subscribed!
I’d love to see a part 2!
Very well done.👍
Thanks Mike for your research, as a keto dieter you give me food for thought
Carnivore is a meme diet
So is veganism.
Tell that to Inuits.
@@neilnewinger3059 well the Greenlandic inuits collect plants and berries in the summer and eat it... They don't just eat meat. My mother in law was from a small town on the east coast and she told stories about collecting things from nature to eat. Sadly she died of a heart disease 68 years old....
@@frunikol Some of them. But there always were many of those, who lived in areas without any access to any plants.
@@neilnewinger3059 she was born and raised outside a small town of Ittoqqortoormiit on the east coast. Even Thule has greenery in the summer.... I think they all have some options for collecting plants to eat and use
Another great video. Thanks, Mike!
Oh we need a sequel for sure, thank you for the video!
New hairstyle looks good. I'm trying to find ways to cover my pattern baldness too.
"...humans and their livestock make up 96% of the world's mammals interms of biomass, while wild mammals only make up 4%." Need we say more?
Because we went from hunting to farming and our population increased, you really are special aren't you 😂?
Who cares?
Because we killed all bison and replaced them with cattle.
@@neilnewinger3059 but American bison only lives in America. There is european bison. But usually most places on earth never had any bisons
@@neilnewinger3059 so should we introduce the bison as an invasive non native species to places on earth where they never existed before? Because bisons only lived in a very specific part of the earth
Experience is golden. The complete fullness and no hunger i feel after 3 days of Lion diet has convinced me. ( I am trying this in order to get rid of inflammation in my endocryne system-for a season)
I really really feel peaceful, and can get so much done. The beauty I have found is that each day I add one thing eg sauerkraut and see if i still feel good. One day i added grenadilla, and instantly felt the acid rise. My body is talking and i am listening...i do always add lemon juice to my 2 lamb chops cooked in tallow at 11am. And dont feel hungry at all till 8pm....i can get so much done in a day. I do have half a cup of coffee each day, as its my linus blanket.
The secret wisdom is to not deviate for a season. Actually it a brain journey, as i want to eat, even if i am not hungry, as i like eating.
I dont cough in the morning, and my nose doesn't run. I am excited AND PATIENT...how my body is going to restore. I am 77 years old and been vegerarian and vegan, and always felt hungry. As with anything, wisdom and discernment is vital...bi for now
👏, part 2, part 2! 👏 Thanks for all the work,❤!
. . . great vid...luv your humor when doing your vids....gonna share this vid rt now on FB to see if it will get you to 400K..... 🥰
Don't you know the genius jordan peterson follows this diet? /s
Yeah, it was literally the only diet that cured all of his and his daughter's problems. Her life was a living hell especially until she started eating ground beef by itself. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm really makes you think, unless your brain is rotted out by veganism
Yes, and he repeats only the misinformation that others have told him, wiuthout any fact checking. But that's him in general.
then he has breakdowns in public due to poor health. and cannot follow basic reasoning during debates with actual philosophers.
LIke he actually acutely lost the faculty for analysis which he had when he was still teaching. He cannot follow thoughts through anymore. It is wild to witness such a harsh mental regression in real time so to speak.
To see a so called psych professional break down in public is laughable. Like bro is the epitome of hypocrite and Dunning Kruger effect too
Aye, once again Mic, thank you for your great work.
Great video! Thanks!
Imagine the constipation on the carnivore diet, truly terrifying.
Constipation? Not a big deal.. Just a small satisfying poop per day or so.
You can only imagine that. Because it’s not reality
That is simply not true. I have been carnivore for almost two years, I have absolutely no constipation issues at all. In fact I have never felt healthier in my life and I was a very healthy eater before carnivore.
My elderly Mom went on a carnivore diet and died of impacted bowel. Constipation on steroids.
So believe the fibre myth?
Because you won‘t meet a Carnivore who is a few month in with the diet who has constipation.
Hemochromatosis- too much iron. If you’re of Northern European ancestry, particularly Ireland, you may well be able to take in too much iron from all those steaks.
And then there’s gout.
Check your teeth and compare them to a lion or wolf’s. Their teeth aren’t made for grinding greens like human’s are…
Well last time i checked humans dont use their teeth for hunting
Exactly. And also we have a side-moving jaw so our teeth can grind fibre. Carnivore jaws only go up and down.
Well said. I am a carrier of Hemochromatosis and coincidently or not, like my Dad don't get any craving for meat. The disease is SERIOUS as it is often mis-diagnosed until it is too late.
Geez wow this is sad guys. Close your mouth and then try and move side to side. A for effort
@@perijon00 You can move your lower jaw from side to side with your lower and upper teeth brushing past each other, as happens when there's food between them. (Obviously you can't move it from side to side if you clamp your teeth shut. smh)
Great! Please do more of these!
Love this! Part 2 please?!
The good thing about carnivore is having satiety while losing weight. High cholesterol is linked to better mental health.
Yeah, I know this guy who had a cocaine addiction. He was never hungry and lost weight and looked really slim. Totally what we should aim for, right?
There are things like longterm health, which is kind of important. And based on the science, you are sacrificing your longterm health (while at the same time paying the animal industries to keep mass murdering innocent animals).
"The Importance of a Plant-Rich Diet for Long-Term Health
Incorporating a variety of plants into your diet is crucial for long-term health for several compelling reasons. First and foremost, plants are rich in essential nutrients that our bodies need to function optimally. Vegetables, fruits, legumes, nuts, and seeds are abundant sources of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants, which play vital roles in maintaining our immune system, promoting healthy skin, and preventing chronic diseases.
One of the significant benefits of a plant-based diet is its high fiber content. Fiber is essential for digestive health as it promotes regular bowel movements, prevents constipation, and helps maintain a healthy gut microbiome. A healthy gut is linked to numerous health benefits, including improved digestion, enhanced immune function, and a lower risk of gastrointestinal disorders.
Furthermore, plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of chronic diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, and certain types of cancer. The antioxidants and phytochemicals found in plants help combat inflammation and oxidative stress, both of which are underlying factors in the development of these chronic conditions. Additionally, consuming a variety of plants can help manage weight by providing a feeling of fullness and reducing the likelihood of overeating, thereby lowering the risk of obesity-related diseases.
Plants are also beneficial for maintaining healthy blood pressure and cholesterol levels. The potassium found in many fruits and vegetables helps regulate blood pressure, while the soluble fiber in foods like oats, beans, and lentils can help lower LDL cholesterol levels. This combination significantly reduces the risk of cardiovascular diseases.
Moreover, a plant-rich diet supports environmental sustainability. By choosing more plant-based foods, individuals can reduce their carbon footprint and contribute to the conservation of natural resources. Sustainable eating habits not only benefit personal health but also the health of our planet.
In summary, a diet rich in plants is indispensable for long-term health. It provides essential nutrients, supports digestive health, reduces the risk of chronic diseases, aids in weight management, and promotes cardiovascular health. Additionally, it fosters a sustainable relationship with our environment. Therefore, embracing a plant-rich diet is a proactive step towards achieving and maintaining overall well-being."
@@MindVersusMisery Cocaine is made from plants which makes sense because plants are trying to kill you.
@@MindVersusMisery Cocaine comes from plants. Plants make you act a certain way that’s why I avoid it.
Hmm. I thought high cholesterol was linked to cardiovascular disease and Alzheimers.
There was a TH-camr who said she turned carnivore cos she wrecked her kidneys by having a green smoothie everyday loaded with spinach. I commented that TH-cam is full of people who go to extremes. She replied “You’re not wrong”.
Oh dear.
from what I've seen, most of the ex-vegans were going crazy on green juices, instead of focusing on the main meals (rice+legumes or tofu)
Interesting. I went keto carnivore
Lost 48 pounds. Blood pressure down. Sore stomach gone.
Are lots of smoothies. And veggies and felt awful.
I think this guy has not a basis of anything
Yes, please do a part 2. One of the other claims that is made, is that they don’t get sunburned, because they don’t eat any seed oils.
I listen to all those people and know that for myself I feel best when I avoid red meat, avoid pork, avoid most dairy, and eat mostly plant based low carb. That’s just myself. I feel dull on red meat. And it does seem red meat promoters are less sharp.
When I lowered my dairy intake, I didn’t have to blow my nose so much and I can breathe through my nose. I personally don’t care for meat so a carnivore diet would be hell for me.
Chaffee clearly hasn't seen Vikings...ALL they went on about is wanting to build farms in England!
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb...and the tree yielding fruit...and God saw that it was good.
Then Dr. Chaffee came along and said it was bad.
Amazing video Mic, you're crushing it :)
Nice work Mike💚
He seems to act like Vegans wouldn't get deficiencies without supplements. I got anemia, low protein, cramps, and my doctor was worried I would bleed out my blood was so thin. That was with whole organic Vegan foods, juicing, berries, nuts, potatoes, tons of veggies, lentils, black rice, millet, spirulina, and the highest quality multivitamin. Whatever diet we are all genetically sub optimal and are dealing with toxins and stress.
He didn’t say vegans couldn’t get deficient, it’s to each their own. What might work for you might not work the next person vice versa etc
He starts showing the "deficiencies" by showing one cut of meat.
I don't eat meat, but the vast majority doing carnivore eat, beef, bacon, eggs and many include cheese and milk. It covers almost every single vitamin and mineral. When you don't consume sugar and carbs the amount of vitamin C you need is much less because glucose competes with vitamin C. Meat and fish also have way more bioavailable vitamins
It's good for Mic to do a counter argument but it's always just flashing up a study without saying who funded it or if it's high quality research or just a questionnaire. Then saying it "improved" the outcomes, maybe it improved it by 0.5% but he doesn't say that. I see this time after time in his videos and him starting showing this 1 cut of meat is the usual ridiculousness
I haven't eaten meat for 20 years and I've taken supplements. I have deficiencies and so I can't stand Mic's cherry picking. It's dangerous and unfair to his audience
A vegan eating processed vegan junk food could watch his channel and think they're super healthy with the way he talks. Vegan is a difficult diet to get right
2 minutes in and he's quoting a random internet post about B12 deficiency 🙄 maybe the people didn't even test themselves before, who knows, again just a totally random cherry pick of info
Deficiencies don't often happen overnight!
The Problem is behind Carnivore/Omnivore are multi billion Dollar Industries. Not so behind a healthy plants diet.
Not so! Farmers will 100% tell you they are NOT making any extra money at all! Ask any of them. This is why so many people are trying to start their own homesteads. It’s the industries backing the Standard American Diet (ultra processed/seed oils/sugars) that are making all the money. Carnivores (and I’m pretty sure most vegans too) eliminate all that processed junk/sugar/fake oils.
You don't actually believe that do you?
@@Bullshirt1983 the stock market rules the world.
you're hugely naive.
there are trillions of dollars behind it all because the industries are linked.
When you look up who runs the grocery stores and you find it's the same guys: Bayer ....
@@Bullshirt1983
Sorry it is not about believe here. You can believe in a Religion but we talk about how the things are. You have to learn who runs the world. It is not fun (might be easier not to know things) but it will help to make better decisions.
The US Beef Industry has a surveillance room to watch it all. All the things meat eating people believe are spread mostly by them. Same with Dairy Industry.
That's hilarious
Great video as usual Mic! Really would love to hear you talk about the Randal cycle. Unless you already have and I missed it.
This was ace, i love how you lurk on carnivore forums and find patterns of illness in all the rubbish they spout. Great job
One thing about the carnivore diet I couldn't stand; there's hardly any variety. Vegans can eat all kinds of things.
vegan: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life'
carnivore: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life'
People eat what they want.
@@martysk8rExcept one group restricts themselves far less and for the sake of ethics usually and the other restricts themselves to a very limited selection for the sake of chasing a vibe, trolling or taking questionable advice that they cope with by clinging onto conspiracy theories about anyone else who says different.
@@martysk8r sure, but the ones who want and do eat a plant based diet do it for much longer, according to the best available evidence.
Thanks Mic, a clear presentation of the physical and social problems in the carnivore diet. One thing that bothers me is the way that they attribute illness on the carnivore and other diets to 'detoxing' and other imaginary reasons. Also it makes me worried when I hear people using similar reasoning about the health benefits of veganism. That's why I prefer listening to people who can actually explain these processes and the research: you and others with nutrition/dietitian training, Dr Milton Mills, Plant Chompers, Dr Greger. Opinion isn't good enough, because there are so many weird diets with very convincing presenters of them. So thanks Mic, your reassurance factor is high.
I like your nickname 😊. Fellow kiwi here who used to eat a lot of feijoas growing up in NZ. I also respect the research of Dr Mills and Dr Greger. I’m a longtime subscriber to Mic. Don’t know Plant Chompers but I’ll look it up now. 🌱Cheers
Part 2 please!! :)
Fantastic! 🌱
Since you bring up kidney stones, I got a friend who at the ripe age of 19 had to be hospitalized for kidney stones after doing keto for a couple of years or so. When I tried to explain him and his mother about the link between keto and kidney stones it seems like they didn't even read the article I presented to them.
Funny! I have had the total opposite experience, I have been plant based since 2007 and have had several serious flare up’s of gout on that diet, but in April 23 I switched to Carnivore just as an experiment, and now it is a year since I started, and no gout flare up’s or arthritis whatsoever! There must be some other connections that are triggering gout problems.
@@floffywombat9109 that's not "the total opposite experience" at all. The total opposite experience of "being hospitalized for kidney stones" would be to get cured from kidney stones. What you are telling is simply a *different* experience, unrelated, that you try to wedge by saying is "the total opposite", but clearly is not, and, therefore, it gets you the total opposite result you intended to get by writting it.
@@sergiomontes2568
Writting it, or Writing ✍️ it ? 🤔😁
And it did in fact Cure the Kidney stone, AND the Gout problems!
@@floffywombat9109 no, if you read it more carefully, you will realise he is not writing "Kidney stone, AND the Gout", but " kidney stones, I got a friend"
It is GOT, and not GOUT.
@@sergiomontes2568
Don’t you understand what Gout is ???
Look it up!
"Geneticists hypothesise that the DUPLICATION of starch digestion genes in early Homo sapiens (∼300 kya ie 300,000 years ago), is an adaptive response to an increased starch diet". Via "Cooked starchy food in hearths ca. 120 kya and 65 kya (MIS 5e and MIS 4) from Klasies River Cave, South Africa", 2019
Thanks so much for this video. My favourite channel. So well presented again, as always. Many years ago I recommended my husband to do a keto diet. I still feel so guilty. He felt so miserable the whole time during that diet, even though he ate so much vegetables. Luckily we bought Dr. Michael Gregers book, and then found your channel. Thanks for the update about the beauty blogger, so happy she changed to the Esselsteyn protocol. Your videos are so important to educated people about the dangers of keto/carnivore. Also I wonder why these professors do a zoom-interview (e.g. as featured in Nutrition made simple), and don't have a good audio set up. I can't understand them, the audio is so bad.
Thanks, Mic!
I vote for a 4-part deep dive on carnivore myths 😂
Eagerly anticipated. You did not disappoint, Mike.
This is so much ammunition for my debates with carnivores.
I already showed them Cronometer. They reject Cronometer. They say it is not accurate.
I vote for part 2.
Why are you arguing with them?
@@suspicionofdeceit Exactly, they'll reap what they sow...
You should argue with them, is a person whom you might help on the other side.
Imagine openly admitting you source your information from influencers with a blatant bias 😂
@@ryanwellington7493 Mike backs up everything he says with fully checkable evidence and logic.
It's crazy how prevalent this diet is
Thank you for your work!
(Just leaving a comment and like for the algorithm.)
I just think Americans are so far away from interacting with millions of people on a Mediterranean diet here in Europe where these issue very rarely occur.
I eat mediterranean diet every time I am there from Sardinia to Greece and if you think those people are anywhere near vegetarian or vegan... oh you would be so damn wrong.
I don’t think that, however, it is pretty much undisputed scientifically that the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest diets that is relatively easy to maintain unlike a vegan diet.
I have family that visits from there. Where they're from they eat predominantly a plant based diet with fish. Other meat is seldom eaten. Different areas have different diets, but the Mediterranean diet as a whole is primarily whole foods plant based with fish.
Just because your tourism involves seeking out unhealthy garbage doesn't mean the locals eat that.
I don’t understand your comment what has tourism to do with it. Unfortunately you will need to explain what you mean.
At 400K do a 4 hour debunk of anti vegans
Thanks for the Video as usual. Would be awesome if you time stamp the video for every Myth.
If you need to supplement the literally most basic daily minerals on your diet, it's not the one.
I literally was just having this conversation with an ex-vegan turned "carnivore dieter" and this proved me right! #veganlifeforthewin
That’s like going from being an Obama voter to voting for Trump, makes no sense other than they don’t really know why they’re doing what they’re doing.
@hugomarquez3189 They are so convinced that whoever told them to only eat 1lb of meat every meal, knew what they were talking about. Their only concern was they wouldn't get gas, and that had is caused by veggies. That's just an unhealthy gut.
Meat eater(not talking about carnivore diet) live vasly longer than vegans. The vegan diet is an L
@@GarudaLegends evidence?
Excellent, thanx Mic 👍 Love veggies even more now!
“Endogenously, So you ain’t dodgin’ this, G!” “Unsubscribe!” 🤣🤣🤦🏻♀️
more of this please
You need more misinterpreted data you don't understand to regurgitate? 😂
@@ryanwellington7493 the level of misinformation the carnivore community puts out with such a lack of scientific research while discounting decades of research while selling you supplements needs to be brought to light more
@@ryanwellington7493 carnivores in a nutshell, but not really because there is no data to support carnivore diets in anyway, just carnivores on TH-cam selling you supplements you don’t need at a premium
@@someguy4967 the majority of stable isotope testing supports a carnivore diet, you just need to stop sourcing your information from biased people like this pleb.
Another Carnivore on YT with a heart attack: The Champion Within
I think I watched his video the other day, he's still carnivore, right?
@@RoughNeckDelta i think so.
Was it a heart attack or stroke?
He seems like he's still doing great and scheduled for a 5k run in the near future.
Oh, and it was a stroke, and he admitted was still eating dirty processed snacks (after a lifetime of doing the same). Not exactly a great case for you carb lovers :)
@@Mallchad it's called cognitive dissonance. Do you think it's a coincidence that every carnivore influencer, has a video on how to deal with digestive issues on the carnivore diet?
These people make me sad.
Great video
I snort-laughed several times with this one! These people are nuts, but a benefit of it is that you can know instantly if a new doctor of any specialty is an idiot who will be inept in your care if they recommend a carnivore diet. Thanks for posting 🙂
Stop laughing at Mic...he is doing his best....
You guys should really spend some time in the carnivore community to realize how healthy these people get. There are whole vegan deterioration compilations on youtube, not for carnicore diets. And there are SO many ex vegans in the carnivore community. I dont think you guys are being honest with yourself
@@oranges557 I don't think you are being honest about what you don't know about society or many other factors. Because here you are making uneducated claims.
@@Flobb1t im the umeducated one? Hahahahaha
@@oranges557 There are carnitard deterioration videos on the channel Carnism is Cancer. Loads of them look horrendous.
I like your intention but... do you realise that some of these carnivores don't eat any carbs. Carbs compete with vitamin C for examples so ones requirement for vitamin C on a Carnivore diet is vastly reduced. Could be the same for other vitamins?
Have you seen the recent info on cholesterol and that lower levels (for people of 50 years and above) is associated with more death?
Love your pronunciation of oxalates by the way. Might wanna check out Sally Norton.
I like your idea on health but unfortunately you're barking up the wrong tree. Please view Barry Groves: Homo Carnivorus What We Are Designed to Eat
Carnivore puts not just death into diet but died... ironically.
Whatever you may think about people following a diet you don't approve, finding laughable that some of them do die (like everyone else) tells a lot abouts your morals.
Do a sequel! I want to hear what other pseudoscience they are hawking.
Why do these “ancestral diet” people only cherry pick the lifestyle of caveman that lived in harsh environments as their living standards?
Human beings originate from tropical environments. Those environments have always enjoyed an abundance of fruits, veggies, beans, nuts etc. This is where humans could thrive, like all other animals on Earth living in their true natural environment.
The cold climate caveman you like to look up to also had an average life span of 35 years. In no way were they living in their natural environment. They were struggling and barely surviving those harsh climates. Even though they have lived in harsh climates for a long time, it is still not the environment that they spend most of their evolutionary history in.
Are you trying to thrive or survive?
That oft quoted "life span of 35 years" is likely dragged way down by infant mortality. We have remains that look like they came from someone who had reached old age. Another oft quoted group, the Okinawans, were eating a starvation diet and their age is still touted as a reason for eating plants, yet I see few recommendations to eat well below your daily caloric needs. Essentially, eating until you're full on a daily basis is totally contrary to the survival benefits we've seen. Eating to thrive may not be the same as eating to live a long time.
This is one of your best videos! Love it. I wish more vegan content creators were doing this instead of making videos about ex vegans. Very informative.
People pass out vegan as well because anemia after periods and can't replenish blood loss nutrients with food as easily.
I'm feeling unrepresented as an omnivore...
History will repeat and omnivores will get their chances again
You're not alone here, Dude/-ette, Fellow-Omni here. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 same. Even though I try these silly little diets carnivore, vegan, I always return to omnivore
With regard to oxalates, Mic the Vegan is navigating very narrowly through the literature in general, and he is flat out wrong with regard to almost everything he specifically said. For example, the amino acids in meat are only converted to excess oxalate if you are deficient in vitamins like B-6 (B1 and vitamin A also play a role). Look up the article: "Vitamin B6 deficiency augments endogenous oxalogenesis after intravenous L-hydroxyproline loading in rats". If you feed rats isolated amino acids, without the necessary vitamins, then yes, you will see an abnormal rise in oxalate. This is why you should not eat isolated amino acids. But you should not fear eating meat and organs, which are chock full of the necessary vitamins, including B6 (also B1 and vitamin A)!
I got some blood work done, and I've been 90% carnivore with raw milk kefir in small amounts for 22+ years thanks to backwoods farm life. I have literally none of the defiencies. Even when I cout out the kefir for 3 years. Also you can have fishes and eggs on carnivore. There is your epa and dha. You can have bone broth and kefir, there goes your calcium. You can have pork, there goes your thiamine. Also these readings are mostly on grain finished. Regenerative beef has a lot more of these on average. Vitamin k1? I get plenty from conversion of k1 to k2. Anti oxidants? I get plenty from grounding, on top of creating my own glutathione. Which is the most powerful anti oxidant. Phytonutrients? You also get this from grass fed and finished meats. Also I consume 3 to 3.5 pounds of beef a day. Vitamin C, you also get plenty from 3+ pounds of regenerative beef and also use it far better on near 0 carb. Sorry pal, no data shows you will become deficient being a properly constructed carnivore diet. And no data shows that your sodium chain is used for vitamin c delivery. Its definitely the glut-4 transport chain and that's well documented. Also the high amounts of carnitine reduce your needs for vitamin c as well. I've never come close to getting scurvy. And you get even better vitamin C from your meat when you leave it rare or super rare. I've sustained this effortlessly without supplementation for over 2 decades. And i dont ever supplement, even electrolytes. Im also strong with 0 health issues. And guess what? I'm mostly sedentary. Also 0 cac score and angiography show no soft plague. Still waiting for that heart attack
Lol cool story bud. 🤡
@@kieranstyx3633 thanks
I want to point out as well that the meat he used in the video at 1:00 is a grain fed steak, with "no visible fat eaten" (~1500 calories)
The comment i was trying to find, bravo👏
The gaps definitely be gappin
I eat a varied WFPB diet, a bit over 2000 calories/day. I check my food against cronometer a few times a year. The only thing I was ever low in was vitamin E, so I now add sunflower seeds to meals and it’s fine. I don’t use the US RDA for calcium. I use 700mg, the UK standard.
I tend to think T. Colin Campbell is right though and that looking at individual nutrients is a bit of a fools errand. But I can’t shake the sense I should check though.
Lots of them eat organs to get around some of the nutritional deficiencies, but the problem with liver is that in many cases, they would have to consume so much to fix the deficiency, they could risk eating too much vitamin A, which is toxic in large amounts
Not to mention the saturated fat and cholesterol you're adding to a diet that is already high in those
If saturated fat is so bad why is it after millions of years of evolution saturated fat is the body's preferred method of storing energy. 25% of all the cholesterol in the body is in the brain, cholesterol is in every cell membrane providing fluidity and transport functions. Cholesterol is a precursor of oestrogen, testosterone, vitamin D, bile. Every cell makes cholesterol, a small amount is from a diet. High HDL cholesterol is very highly correlated to heart health.
@@akhusal you completely upset the balance by introducing more of it. ALso you have bones in the body - your whole structure is supported by bones but if I stick one in your mouth you will choke on it.
You have eyeballs - should you eat eyeballs ?
How about hair? Humans are covered in hair - so lets eat some ?
Lol.
You're not even trying to think. You are acting in bad faith and don't care about truth. The wolst part is it is self sabotaging behaviour. You are fighting to make your life worse. Putting in effort to harm yourself more and more ...
@@akhusal Plant sterols?
The system decides what is needed.
That's why vitamin & mineral deficiencies are visually easy to recognize.
Just look at Mics skin tone.
He definitely needs more animal based cholesterol for vitamin D production as well as more sunlight.
Well wishes.
It never ceases to amaze that, although it's totally obvious from our form/physiology we humans are not carnivores but omnivores, we still have many among us who fall for the carnivore BS. Great job clearing up some of that BS!
What physiology are you talking about? I cannot find many adaptations/organs for eating plants in humans at all. It'd be cool if you could list a few
It’s probably part of the whole Alpha Male trend. They imagine themselves an apex predator like as a lion, but they could never fight a lion with their actual fingernails and molars.
They need electroytes because they burn them out digesting excessive meat consumption. They need fruit and coffee for energy, note: Liver Ghee & Beef fat are super healing
One of the things that really made sense to me, was when someone asked if I had ever had a piece of meat in my stool.
Many different vegetables and other foods, but never any type of meat. It digests easier than just about anything
That is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard 😂
Next you will be telling me that you don’t take a shit because your body “absorbs” it all 😂😂😂
How about “you need cholesterol for your hormones “ and “you need a lot of fat to survive “