I’m not a vegan, I have meat maybe once a week or two, so I’m not strongly in one camp or the other, but people on the carnivore diet do seem to make claims it’s had miraculous effects (positive) on their health. Many claim they completely unclog their arteries (as per their medical checks). I don’t know if it’s true, but at the same time, why would someone lie about that?
As an ex carnivore girly I can tell u it does help a lot because u start getting alot of nutrition but it’s not good long term u end up gaining weight a lot eventually I got heart palpitations etc. now I eat mainly plants but I love eggs I follow the Mediterranean Diet now which is what my 93 year old alive energetic Grampa follows
As a vegetarian who’s just trying to take care of my family the best I know how to - videos like this help me breath again. Seriously, to try giving my family a well-rounded plate and hear “experts & professional” telling me that plants are actually giving them toxins 🤯?! It’s so overwhelming constantly shifting through all of the starkly conflicting dietary advice out there. I research and try to stay well informed, but hearing “they’re lying about the science” repetitively really starts to make one think they’re going insane 😅.
If you guys feel good on a plant based diet then great. There are outliers but most people on plant based diets (which is most people) have too many issues to list here.
Who gets rich if we eat a plant based diet? Plants are the cheapest and easiest to grow foods. There are no monopolies controlling the 86,000 edible plant foods. Meanwhile, a handful of companies control the meat industry and they lobby the world's governments heavily to get rid of any science that shows how toxic their foods are. The design and pay for hundreds of studies that try to show benefits from their products. They have yet to succeed. There is no scientific evidence in medical history that humans benefit from animal consumption anywhere. There are thousands of studies showing the opposite. And this evidence doesn't make any rich person richer. Think about that.
@@courag1 Wayyy too many assumptions, which is typical as vegan's brains tend to shrink (that's one issue) - I can link the source of a 5 years study if you like, along with anxiety, depression, extreme weigh loss or extreme weigh gain (like most fruitarians), B12 deficiency along with deficiencies in choline, Carnitine etc. skin issues, sunken eyes (which is very typical in most long term vegans), thin necks, terrible conversion of certain plant vitamins etc. etc. How’s this little list for starters, or am I lying?
70% of human salivary protein is devoted to dealing with tannins (which come from plants). From "Traces of dietary patterns in saliva of hominids: Profiling salivary amino acid fingerprints in great apes and humans", Feb 2023
Microplastics is a big thing now. My friends have no problem of me being vegan for 9 years or so. I now just tell them how nice it is to eat from the lowest possible place in the food chain. Least possible plastics, yay!
That’s great - except that’s almost the smallest part of it! Super optimised health, the most effective personal action you can take to help climat change, no animal violence. oh and let’s add the super aid to combat the super serious antibiotic resistance issue.
Not only is it the least.. farm animals are fed plastic! there's like an allowance ..or 3% or something in their feed! and you can actually see the plastic in some feeds!
great vid mic. thanks coworker has been doing keto for 6 months....he lost a bunch of weight...but his list of supplements and ldl is on the rise. my personal feeling are that it doesn't matter what my ancestors ate, or even what I ate at my last meal. What matters is what I will eat...and that is a wfpb vegan diet. The science is behind it and it is compassionate and less harmful to our only place to live.
Well. Irritability is a cortisol issue... Saturated fat stimulate leptin, carbs stimulate ghrelins... Ghrelins stimulate cortisol... It's usually the Vegans who act as nazi heathen...
I'm 65 yrs old tried the carnivore diet because my new Holistic Doctor told me it was better then my 8 yr Vegan diet that i am on. In 48 days on carnivore my gout went away, I lost 6 lbs. ,I don't have to take my diabetic pills anymore, my swollen prostrate is getting better , my brain fog is almost gone, my knee pain is gone, I stopped taking my blood pressure meds, I am sleeping through the night without having to get up to pee 2 times, my eye flouters are gone, my long distance vision has improved, my bald spot on the top of my head is starting new hair growth. I had to go back to Vegan because my wife said my face had a pink look to it she liked it better when i had a gray looking face.
I am 152 years old and became true carnivore and eat only carnivore animals as the apex predator. I am the last real man standing. Even Klaus Schwab came to my house to stop me. I walk around my area to find any carnivore roadkill(cat and dog) to eat raw. I am superior. I have ascended! I am the SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST!
The oxalate dumping reminds me of how people adopting the raw food diet will attribute all negative symptoms to “detoxing.” I knew a lot of people who followed a raw diet (raw fruit, veg, nuts, and honey), and would have fatigue, headaches, and a lot of other symptoms of energy deficit, but they would always say, “I’m detoxing.” I would argue that a carnivore diet is far worse than a raw diet (one that excludes any raw meat, eggs, or dairy), though.
There's a lesser known myth that carnivores have expressed to me, they think that the consumption of plant foods have somehow caused human brains to de-evolve and become smaller and they always say this under the presumption of their other myth of how they think human beings were all purely carnivorous before the agricultural revolution.
@@fabienpaillusson7390 I think the question that should be asked is what evidence do you have that they were? Even remains of neanderthals have been discovered to have traced of plant material including that of nuts on their teeth and they lived in Europe during the ice age meanwhile homo sapiens were still living in the warmer equatorial region, every isolated tribe that either exists now or has existed eats other things than meat and it wouldn't make sense or be convenient for them to only eat as such anyway. You carnivores neglect education and learning in favor of feelings.
I was thinking return of the killer 🍅's . Dr Chafee got his degree from this film and skipped his cancer biology class when discussing Bovine Lukemiamia Virus.😢
I’m surprised no one talks about the fact that true carnivorous animals produce their own vitamin c in their livers whereas fruit bats, Guinea pigs and humans (and apes) need to get it from the diet, presumably because we have adapted to a high plant based diet.
not true. humans that eat high protein low carb diets actually need less vitamin c which can be taken from red meat. we also see that those who eat higher carb diets also need more vitamin c which they take from plant based foods.
Because many herbivores _also_ make their own vitamin C. Like homo-sapiens sapiens primary food source... Fatty ruminant animals... Which we then eat... For Vitamin C... And we know we ate that because of recent analysis of 350,000 year old bones. Vitamin C is actually a recessive gene, ours got deactivated because we didn't need it "for some reason". It might have something to do with the fact that humans live nearly 3x longer than primates.
This exactly. It is so starkly simple. Humans do not create vitamin C in their bodies, thus they must get it from their diet. What is the best source? Fruits and vegetables. Carnivores create their own vitamin C. If this isn't the clearest fact pointing to human dietary physiology, I don't know what is.
@@RawandCookedVegan I am carnivore for 2 years and I do not get vitamin C from fruits or vegetables and I do not supplement. No scurvy so far. Explain that.
Imagine not being able to eat nice salmon steak with butter or some delicious spicy honey wings. Instead you get soy and supplements lmao. Sad and cringe.
To never again enjoy fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta. The list goes on. It’s such a depressing and boring diet isn’t it.
@@helencaleb2188 But if you get rid of asthma and can finally relax, breath and sleep for 8 hours, you gladly forget about all that fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta ....
@@GarudaLegends sounds like a limited diet, my plant based diet is full of variety and flavor from all parts of the world. Curries, soups, burritos, tacos, stews, stir frys and none of it clogs my arteries either! I can eat all of the delicious healthy foods with none of the suffering included as well. Health benefits are a bonus.
I've personally consulted more than a few long-term carnivore dieters in my career as a dietitian, and every single one of them was or was about to start taking a multivitamin every day because they ran into trouble with symptomatic deficiency. It happens 100% of the time, if they don't supplement. So anyone doing pure carnivore for a long time, who says they don't have deficiencies and are not taking supplements, are LYING TO YOU.
Shawn has obviously been lying. He got called out for having bananas on his counter, claimed they weren't his, then deleted the video, backtracked, and said he was actually eating fruit but was just "experimenting" to test lmhr theory despite not being lmhr himself.
He has said in a couple of podcasts that he takes a couple of days off each week. Meanwhile the poor people who try to follow "pure" carnivore get into all sorts of problems ...
@kieranstyx3633 No, he made a followup vid and said the bananas were his kids'. He does have an entire family living there.. they're not on his diet necessarily.
vegan: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life' carnivore: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life' People eat what they want.
@@martysk8rExcept one group restricts themselves far less and for the sake of ethics usually and the other restricts themselves to a very limited selection for the sake of chasing a vibe, trolling or taking questionable advice that they cope with by clinging onto conspiracy theories about anyone else who says different.
Again with the "ancestral" argument: 50 million years or so of plant predominant primates; Homo species approx 2 million years; Homo sapiens - few hundred thousand years. So plant predominant phase is 25-150 times longer .... Perhaps why so much research showing plants are good for us
That's not how evolution works, you only keep the adaptations you require for your environment, Humans stopped eating predominantly plants to hunt millions of years back and continued doing it right up until agriculture which is when Human's started getting smaller, weaker and more prone to disease.
@@carinaekstrom1 because it only accounted for around 20% of total food intake and that's based on all data we have not just cherry picked samples and then you have tribes like the Inuit who survived on just meat without issues since y'know they lived in the arctic.
@@ryanwellington7493 The Inuit have a the story of a god that gives them constipation and are one of the sickest populations ever. They have osteoporosis in their teens because of their diet.
Here he is instead of eating one extreme by the other. The best thing to do I believe is eat whole foods, figure out what works for you and what doesn't and adjust accordingly to your body type. There's no one size fits all for everyone
The side effects of a carnivore diet sound absolutely awful. I had enough digestive issues on an omnivore diet that I can’t even imagine going carnivore. So much happier, healthier, and feeling better completely plant based.
My side effects are lovely 🤣 No more obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany) heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
Same 🌱 I tried carnivore before I read the effects of it (after having issues myself, I started googling)… their heroes like Ken Berry and that chiropractor led me down a path of very high cholesterol, BP and high glycemic levels (they should try measuring every hour for over 3 hours like I did. A meat based meal sent my BG levels into the 170s even after 5 HOURS. I’m not diabetic or even pre-diabetic. My hba1c is completely normal). Diabetes is in my family so I’m very focused on it Carnivore is a scam. Plant based is real, and wfpb vegan even better! My cholesterol is 120s with LDL at 68 🎉🎉
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Plants are the scam - pushed by every governmental health organisation - the exact ones that wanted to needlessly operate on me! You're just going with the flow - good luck
@@Meathead-10810😂😂😂 sorry to tell you that I also don't have any of those issues on a plant based diet 😘💚🌱 Some of the things you mention went away with my plant based diet and some of the other issues, is something I never knew was something you could get 😵💫😂
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb...and the tree yielding fruit...and God saw that it was good. Then Dr. Chaffee came along and said it was bad.
Hemochromatosis- too much iron. If you’re of Northern European ancestry, particularly Ireland, you may well be able to take in too much iron from all those steaks. And then there’s gout. Check your teeth and compare them to a lion or wolf’s. Their teeth aren’t made for grinding greens like human’s are…
Well said. I am a carrier of Hemochromatosis and coincidently or not, like my Dad don't get any craving for meat. The disease is SERIOUS as it is often mis-diagnosed until it is too late.
@@perijon00 You can move your lower jaw from side to side with your lower and upper teeth brushing past each other, as happens when there's food between them. (Obviously you can't move it from side to side if you clamp your teeth shut. smh)
The point of low carb is to up-regulate your fat and ketone burning metabolism. Ie. Ketosis. An orange or pepper isn't going to hurt anyone but that's the opposite direction.
The carnivore diet runs on a very carefully balanced metabolic regime of fats, bullshit, cult like denial and painful constipation. If you add a vegetable to that it falls apart violently.
Since you bring up kidney stones, I got a friend who at the ripe age of 19 had to be hospitalized for kidney stones after doing keto for a couple of years or so. When I tried to explain him and his mother about the link between keto and kidney stones it seems like they didn't even read the article I presented to them.
Funny! I have had the total opposite experience, I have been plant based since 2007 and have had several serious flare up’s of gout on that diet, but in April 23 I switched to Carnivore just as an experiment, and now it is a year since I started, and no gout flare up’s or arthritis whatsoever! There must be some other connections that are triggering gout problems.
@@floffywombat9109 that's not "the total opposite experience" at all. The total opposite experience of "being hospitalized for kidney stones" would be to get cured from kidney stones. What you are telling is simply a *different* experience, unrelated, that you try to wedge by saying is "the total opposite", but clearly is not, and, therefore, it gets you the total opposite result you intended to get by writting it.
@@floffywombat9109 no, if you read it more carefully, you will realise he is not writing "Kidney stone, AND the Gout", but " kidney stones, I got a friend" It is GOT, and not GOUT.
The reason miss Peterson said she had a folate deficiency is because she only ate a particular meat. She said she's going to eat liver to get that. It's like you just eating lettuce. You're going to get some deficiency somewhere.
Had blood work 3 weeks ago. Will admit that I'm not 100% vegan. Moving in that direction. Some fish when catch it myself. But over the last year I've gone months without any fish. In the last 3 months almost none. B12 was at the high end. Iron was at this high end of the range. I even gave blood to reduce to the middle of the range. Vit D was 32 in the ideal range. Ate a garden full of collards and kale over the winter which gave me plenty of iron along with the lentils and chickpeas. 5'10 165 lb. BMI below 25. It is beyond me how anyone could be healthy and happy eating just red meat. Love my huge plates of low calorie low fat diverse veggies for dinner.
While I believe in the benefits of plant based diets, I do think some animal products are good for you like fish. It's high in b12, omega 3 dha/epa, as well as things like creatine and taurine all of which are impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplements. The body does make taurine and creatine, but as we age, the body makes a lot less of it. In the seventh day adventist blue zone in loma linda, the pesco-vegetarians out lived the vegans in this demographic. C15 fatty acid, which is a newly discovered possibly essential fatty acid, is also impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplementation. Studies have shown low c15 levels were associated with faster aging. Grass fed butter is the best source of c15, you only need 1 tablespoon, which will keep you well under the rda for saturated fat. If you are going to go on a straight vegan diet, I would consider getting supplements for all the things I mentioned. I don't think eating red meat is healthy, but fish is good for you, just make sure and eat the ones low in mercury.
@@adim00lah The only thing you are missing out on in fish, you struggle with to get in a plant-based diet is the heavy metals and cholesterol. But go ahead, "belive" whatever you want, science on the other hand says otherwise.
@@ItsBoyRed Science says otherwise about what exactly? I don't understand the first sentance you typed why would someone struggle to get in heavy metals, who wants that?
@@ItsBoyRed I can't get taurine or creatine from plants. I need artificial supplements for that. Yes the body does make these, but when you get older they start to decline a lot. So now that I'm middle aged, I want to get more in my diet. I don't want to have rely on b12 supplements, I can get b12 from fish. I can also get dha/epa omega 3 without needing algae oil supplements. If you want to live off supplements, that's fine, I'd rather live off food, to each their own. I'm not against anyone that wants to go vegan, but I don't want to be vegan. Even when looking at the seventh day adventist studies, the pesco-vegetarians and lacto-ovo vegetarians do better on reduction of all causes of mortality. In this demographic, pesco-vegetarians had an 18% lower risk of death, vegetarians 15%, and vegans 3% compared to those who eat meat according to this below study: "Cause-specifica and all-cause mrtalities in vegetarian compared with those in nonvegetarian participants from the adventist health study-2 cohort"
Let’s not get so hateful towards each other. Carnivore works for me that’s all I know for sure but had I a different make up perhaps Vegan would work better for me, I don’t really know. What I do think is that everyone contributing to this conversation mostly means well and would like to inform others of their personal experience. Let’s have more love❤❤ 🥩 🌽
There was a TH-camr who said she turned carnivore cos she wrecked her kidneys by having a green smoothie everyday loaded with spinach. I commented that TH-cam is full of people who go to extremes. She replied “You’re not wrong”.
4.5 months on carnivore and I haven’t gotten sick or had a headache. Fast 24 hours a day and have plenty of energy with a physical full time job. The numbness in my hands and feet went away. I can go to the bathroom when I choose. Could skip a day. Oh and I’ve lost 85lbs. You do you though…..
Did a very strict keto diet for 2 years. Major muscle cramping issues especially abdominal muscles. Tried to hydrate but they continued. Also developed blood clotting issues that could have killed me! Be careful guys!
I did keto for many years, it was my bridge to veganism. I never had cramping issues. Everyone is different; for example 95% of Asians are lactose intolerant, we all have individual needs. I stopped eating meat when I became more spiritually self aware, I felt a greater energy flow. I believe in being true to yourself. If one believes they are carnivores then so be it. If they start getting evangelical about carnivorism, then I do my best to ignore it because I know what my body thrives on, and it's definitely not animal products.
I've tried both diets, and I'm try to see the vegan side again. I think you have some points, but I disagree with most of what you're saying. How about the Chronometer with 4 eggs per day added? There is an issue with not enough fish. It makes sense to me people will have scurvy only eating tinned meat. The meat needs to be somewhat raw (the center of steak), to keep some vitamin C. But yes you need a lot less. There's a long adaptation process and mistakes people make. That's most of what you're calling out.
Yeah, I know this guy who had a cocaine addiction. He was never hungry and lost weight and looked really slim. Totally what we should aim for, right? There are things like longterm health, which is kind of important. And based on the science, you are sacrificing your longterm health (while at the same time paying the animal industries to keep mass murdering innocent animals).
"The Importance of a Plant-Rich Diet for Long-Term Health Incorporating a variety of plants into your diet is crucial for long-term health for several compelling reasons. First and foremost, plants are rich in essential nutrients that our bodies need to function optimally. Vegetables, fruits, legumes, nuts, and seeds are abundant sources of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants, which play vital roles in maintaining our immune system, promoting healthy skin, and preventing chronic diseases. One of the significant benefits of a plant-based diet is its high fiber content. Fiber is essential for digestive health as it promotes regular bowel movements, prevents constipation, and helps maintain a healthy gut microbiome. A healthy gut is linked to numerous health benefits, including improved digestion, enhanced immune function, and a lower risk of gastrointestinal disorders. Furthermore, plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of chronic diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, and certain types of cancer. The antioxidants and phytochemicals found in plants help combat inflammation and oxidative stress, both of which are underlying factors in the development of these chronic conditions. Additionally, consuming a variety of plants can help manage weight by providing a feeling of fullness and reducing the likelihood of overeating, thereby lowering the risk of obesity-related diseases. Plants are also beneficial for maintaining healthy blood pressure and cholesterol levels. The potassium found in many fruits and vegetables helps regulate blood pressure, while the soluble fiber in foods like oats, beans, and lentils can help lower LDL cholesterol levels. This combination significantly reduces the risk of cardiovascular diseases. Moreover, a plant-rich diet supports environmental sustainability. By choosing more plant-based foods, individuals can reduce their carbon footprint and contribute to the conservation of natural resources. Sustainable eating habits not only benefit personal health but also the health of our planet. In summary, a diet rich in plants is indispensable for long-term health. It provides essential nutrients, supports digestive health, reduces the risk of chronic diseases, aids in weight management, and promotes cardiovascular health. Additionally, it fosters a sustainable relationship with our environment. Therefore, embracing a plant-rich diet is a proactive step towards achieving and maintaining overall well-being."
He seems to act like Vegans wouldn't get deficiencies without supplements. I got anemia, low protein, cramps, and my doctor was worried I would bleed out my blood was so thin. That was with whole organic Vegan foods, juicing, berries, nuts, potatoes, tons of veggies, lentils, black rice, millet, spirulina, and the highest quality multivitamin. Whatever diet we are all genetically sub optimal and are dealing with toxins and stress.
He starts showing the "deficiencies" by showing one cut of meat. I don't eat meat, but the vast majority doing carnivore eat, beef, bacon, eggs and many include cheese and milk. It covers almost every single vitamin and mineral. When you don't consume sugar and carbs the amount of vitamin C you need is much less because glucose competes with vitamin C. Meat and fish also have way more bioavailable vitamins It's good for Mic to do a counter argument but it's always just flashing up a study without saying who funded it or if it's high quality research or just a questionnaire. Then saying it "improved" the outcomes, maybe it improved it by 0.5% but he doesn't say that. I see this time after time in his videos and him starting showing this 1 cut of meat is the usual ridiculousness I haven't eaten meat for 20 years and I've taken supplements. I have deficiencies and so I can't stand Mic's cherry picking. It's dangerous and unfair to his audience A vegan eating processed vegan junk food could watch his channel and think they're super healthy with the way he talks. Vegan is a difficult diet to get right
2 minutes in and he's quoting a random internet post about B12 deficiency 🙄 maybe the people didn't even test themselves before, who knows, again just a totally random cherry pick of info Deficiencies don't often happen overnight!
@@bee_bee3you are right about his cherry picking. I say find out what works best for you. I am not vegan but many people are and happy. I’m concerned about my vegan friend having health concerns after 30 plus years vegan but I don’t say everyone is doomed to the same outcome. My friend asked me about carnivore as I follow. She said she didn’t want to do it. My response was “ok”. I also feel there are so many exceptions to every rule as we are incredibly complex internally,
@@brianschulz6462 yes, everyone is different and changes throughout life. We should always remain open to new ideas and look deeply into the facts for ourselves which means looking at the research papers rather than someone's interpretation and cherry picking I know there's little research about carnivore, but the individual stories are incredible. So many of them now. It does seem to be the ultimate elimination diet, fixing illness and diseases we couldn't think possible. I love when people get well and feel great however it is they get there. I'm sorry to hear your friend isn't well, it's more tough to convince vegans and vegetarians, I know from myself because it was me ☺️ the top internet searches, news articles, guidelines all go in that favour we think it must be something else and not the "amazing" "healthy" food we're eating. I was so surprised how many nutrients are in fish and meat compared to vegetables, when you actually look at the sites that breakdown nutrition composition of food and they don't even count the nutrients that plants prevent you from absorbing. You're not told that as a vegan and vegetarian, it's very important so they can look very closely at their diet and add what's missing I think sugar is the biggest culprit in all of this and meat got the blame. The studies don't actually separate just consuming meat alone. There's never really been a test of that
Use to follow you a lot when I was Vegan. Oxalate dumping is real mate. I personally went through it. Oxalates are the reason I quit veganism after 20 years. The FB group trying low oxlates is full of ex vegans who ended up with arthitis and health problems because of oxalates. My oxalate dumping started when I was still vegan because I got so sick I didn't eat much in 2 weeks. I absolutely loved baby spinach and potatoes. I was in so much pain my sides felt like fire and I could not walk. Took 6 months for the pain to go away when I went low OX. But when ever I've been lazy and eaten a few high ox foods like raspberries, nuts or potatoes I eventually get the joint pain again
I just think Americans are so far away from interacting with millions of people on a Mediterranean diet here in Europe where these issue very rarely occur.
I eat mediterranean diet every time I am there from Sardinia to Greece and if you think those people are anywhere near vegetarian or vegan... oh you would be so damn wrong.
I don’t think that, however, it is pretty much undisputed scientifically that the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest diets that is relatively easy to maintain unlike a vegan diet.
I have family that visits from there. Where they're from they eat predominantly a plant based diet with fish. Other meat is seldom eaten. Different areas have different diets, but the Mediterranean diet as a whole is primarily whole foods plant based with fish.
I dunno. There are a ton of people who got really healthy on carnivore. It seems to help with autoimmune diseases. They lose weight which helps everything. If you really can’t drop weight eating other diets but carnivore works then it’s a good thing short term. It’s also a good option for certain gut problems. Some of us don’t handle much fibre. Cutting it right down helps those with IBD etc at lot. One size does not fit all.
"Geneticists hypothesise that the DUPLICATION of starch digestion genes in early Homo sapiens (∼300 kya ie 300,000 years ago), is an adaptive response to an increased starch diet". Via "Cooked starchy food in hearths ca. 120 kya and 65 kya (MIS 5e and MIS 4) from Klasies River Cave, South Africa", 2019
He seems like he's still doing great and scheduled for a 5k run in the near future. Oh, and it was a stroke, and he admitted was still eating dirty processed snacks (after a lifetime of doing the same). Not exactly a great case for you carb lovers :)
@@Mallchad it's called cognitive dissonance. Do you think it's a coincidence that every carnivore influencer, has a video on how to deal with digestive issues on the carnivore diet?
vegans are like flat earthers. They are delusional to the point they actually think their diet is healthy, when it has been proven to be unhealthy and deficient.
Yeah just completely disregard the diet our species evolved on for millions of years right up until agriculture when health coincidentally started to decline in Human's 😂
I don't usually comment on videos but just couldn't help myself after reading some of the comments. For most of my life I ate the SAD and then about 10 years ago I went Vegan believing it to be healthier. It is absolutely healthier than the SAD. That said I gained weight on the diet and didn't feel healthy. Plus I have had 12 calcium oxalate kidney stones over the years; the last one they had to go get with a laser. Many plants are high in oxalates; too numerous to name but nuts and soy products are at the top of the list. About 5 years ago I switched to Keto and lost 50 pounds and felt great and have transitioned to carnivore which has helped me even more. If you think vegan is a good diet for you great and more power to you but I've noticed one difference on this blog. Carnivores talk about the benefits on their diet and what they feel is lacking in a vegan diet. Vegans talk about carnivores and not in a good way. Our ancestors ate what they could find or kill. Plants weren't readily available. Broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, etc. are all hybrids that we've scienced to make palatable. Most of which have only been available for about 4000 years. I would suggest talking about the benefits of your diet will win you more converts than bad mouthing equally intelligent people who opt to follow a different path.
@homie3461 I absolutely was vegan and got plenty of exercise. Walking 5 hours a day delivering mail is exercise. Prior to that I spent 22 years in the USMC. I know exercise. I didn't say I was fat; I said I gained weight. I was 5'10" and around 215 and have been lifting weights pretty much my whole life so I ate a lot of beans for the protein. The problem was TOO many carbs. I also didn't say there weren't any plants in the past. You do know that ruminant animals can eat plants that humans can't right? Multiple stomachs do wonders for digesting plants that would be toxic for us. Moose and other deer eat tree bark and buffalo live off of grass. Try eating those things and see how that goes. The example you equate are childish at best. Eating differently is now the same as being a child sex abuser. What do you think humans ate prior to farming started roughly 14000 years ago? We ate what ever we could find or kill ... Mammoth was a favorite. What about indigenous populations in northern Canada, Alaska and similar places? Think they were farming on ice or eating the abundant plant matter? Indigenous populations in the US used to follow the buffalo migrations. Tribes in the Dakotas are said to have lived almost entirely off meat. That's human history and you can't change it. Our digestive systems is omnivorous. I repeat myself that instead of trying to have a conversation vegans choose to belittle anyone that is opposed to their dogma. Thanks for proving my point.
That’s like going from being an Obama voter to voting for Trump, makes no sense other than they don’t really know why they’re doing what they’re doing.
@hugomarquez3189 They are so convinced that whoever told them to only eat 1lb of meat every meal, knew what they were talking about. Their only concern was they wouldn't get gas, and that had is caused by veggies. That's just an unhealthy gut.
@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 b12 is a must and vitamin d is important too if your not getting enough sun or eating fortified foods. But, all other nutrients aren't necessary if your eating enough vitamins and minerals.
@@La_TangoMariaa I agree that both those are important but I do not eat fortified foods. I have quite a bit of fermented plants in my diet made by myself. In 40+ years being plant based I have never been deficient in any vitamin - probably because i eat a varied diet.
@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 Yeah I would say without vitamins, you are likely to be deficient in B12, D, and iron. Iron needs to be talked about a lot more. That's so important and almost nothing contains it. I eat everything and was very deficient. I also run every day so maybe that's a difference. And yes I eat beans, and nuts, and tofu every day. It isn't enough if you are deficient. It barely hits the minimum recommendation.
My uncle almost died because of the carnivore diet, need to be really careful with all this misinformation online. But now he wants me to cook him plant based meals, yay! Also, glad to hear your better now!
i BET you did it not more than a few days, few weeks max. Look for someone in the carnivore community who "died of short breath" hahahaha You guys are being ridiculous
@@La_TangoMariaahahahahahaha your uncle almost diet on the carnivore diet? Do you actually believe that? Please give me some argument, he almost died of what? How are you vegans always making such ridiculous unfounded statements? Who is dying of a carnivore diet?? Id HEAVILY suggest you talking to a carnivore who was an ex vegan, there are plenty. Youre deluded and your uncle didnt almost die because of the carnivore diet hahahaha
@@neilnewinger3059 so should we introduce the bison as an invasive non native species to places on earth where they never existed before? Because bisons only lived in a very specific part of the earth
I will never understand what all of the carnivore supporters do here in the comments. Like idk I don’t have that much time to spend on watching videos about meat. The only way I know about carnivore is by watching vegan TH-camrs speaking about it. But thanks to the views i guess, spreading the message is indeed important 🤣
I am lean mass hyper processed food responder. The more pizza, kebabs, butter, chocolate, burgers i eat the smaller and leaner i am, soon im going to surpass earth size, because i eat vegan diet on IF, help me. LMHR is the stupidiest excuse to eat unhealthy meat so far i have heard.
My friend has been vegan for over 30 years. He is currently out of work for a minimum of 8 weeks as his legs have been hurting to excruciating levels for the last couple years and are swollen and weeping. Why?
Carnivores argue our ancestors were all Carnivores but in reality, ancient man ate what was in his immediate environment. Ancestors that lived with lots of fleshy animals ate more meats than ancestors that lived in plant surroundings. Archeaological evidence provides that heart disease was more prevalent among ancient meat eating populations than plant eating populations. Even from our own skeletal dental anatomy it is indicative that we are omnivores, because humans have both squared(plant eating) teeth and sharp(meat eating) teeth, no we don't have the mouth of a great white shark, or wolf or bear.
I’m 90% vegan, I acknowledge that in most situation, a lean cut of pasture raised meat is healthier than some ultra processed frozen soy burger. But: 1. These are unfair comparisons. You can’t draw a fair comparison using the healthiest form of protein from one source and the unhealthiest form from another. Spirulina blows meat out of the park nutrient wise. But since most people don’t eat the most optimal daily, a more practical comparison is comparing two frozen burgers. Beef vs. plant based. Both are probably not good for you. 2. Not all vegans do it for health. We like animals. But every attack brings up the point that vegan Oreo cookies are unhealthy. Duh 3. Reducing animal products benefits everyone eating a typical western diet. Even if you only eat a variety of organically produced lean meats, you still benefit from plants
I've been a carnivore, and it dehydrated me like crazy. Ironically, it's when I got diabetes. Carnivores now, need to understand the concept of hydrolysis and lipolysis
@@neilnewinger3059 well the Greenlandic inuits collect plants and berries in the summer and eat it... They don't just eat meat. My mother in law was from a small town on the east coast and she told stories about collecting things from nature to eat. Sadly she died of a heart disease 68 years old....
@@neilnewinger3059 she was born and raised outside a small town of Ittoqqortoormiit on the east coast. Even Thule has greenery in the summer.... I think they all have some options for collecting plants to eat and use
This is one of your best videos! Love it. I wish more vegan content creators were doing this instead of making videos about ex vegans. Very informative.
You only showed a vitamin profile of steak. A healthy carnivore diet should include sea food and organ meat. Saturated fat is perfectly healthy if you arnt consuming carbs.
I eat a varied WFPB diet, a bit over 2000 calories/day. I check my food against cronometer a few times a year. The only thing I was ever low in was vitamin E, so I now add sunflower seeds to meals and it’s fine. I don’t use the US RDA for calcium. I use 700mg, the UK standard. I tend to think T. Colin Campbell is right though and that looking at individual nutrients is a bit of a fools errand. But I can’t shake the sense I should check though.
I've been carnivore just over 3 months now, and oxalate dumping is real, it's been coming out of my skin and eyes. I probably would have been fine if I wasn't drinking raw spinach almond milk smoothies for years when I was trying to be vegan. I believed a raw vegan diet was the ultimate in healthy eating. Unfortunately it wasn't. My health has improved in a lot of ways now and I feel better. The biggest difference is that I can eat once or twice a day, feel satisfied and have stable mood and energy levels. I'm finally losing weight easily and feel comfortable in my body, which is not something I could say with all that grain and plant fibre. I guess we are all different. Maybe one day I will add back in some plants, maybe fruit, but for now, this is working well. Not a big fan of drama and division, we all have to eat, and everyone has a right to find out what diet works best for them.
The same thing here. You cannot deny the reality, it is just stupid AF. 8th month so far, and if oxalate dumping isn’t real, then we should doubt the reality, it is not there. It is just matrix 😄
@@agnidas5816 form doesn’t matter that much. Of course liquid food is a bad idea, but you can absorb oxalates from baked potato, spinach or nuts, dark chocolate, tea, etc. Aren’t those considered to be health foods?
Brilliant, picking a single food then complaining that it dosent have literally everything. Why not add eggs, milk, organs, different meat like pork or fish? For example, fatty pork cuts is one of the highest k2 vitamin source, and its the good form of k2 thats actually usable for humans not the plant version.
Not so! Farmers will 100% tell you they are NOT making any extra money at all! Ask any of them. This is why so many people are trying to start their own homesteads. It’s the industries backing the Standard American Diet (ultra processed/seed oils/sugars) that are making all the money. Carnivores (and I’m pretty sure most vegans too) eliminate all that processed junk/sugar/fake oils.
@@Bullshirt1983 the stock market rules the world. you're hugely naive. there are trillions of dollars behind it all because the industries are linked. When you look up who runs the grocery stores and you find it's the same guys: Bayer ....
@@Bullshirt1983 Sorry it is not about believe here. You can believe in a Religion but we talk about how the things are. You have to learn who runs the world. It is not fun (might be easier not to know things) but it will help to make better decisions. The US Beef Industry has a surveillance room to watch it all. All the things meat eating people believe are spread mostly by them. Same with Dairy Industry.
Eagerly anticipated. You did not disappoint, Mike. This is so much ammunition for my debates with carnivores. I already showed them Cronometer. They reject Cronometer. They say it is not accurate. I vote for part 2.
Good for you. I have had so many insults and threats from Carnivores and Flat Earthers that I no longer check any replies on You-Tube. Actually, not answering such questions (politely of course) I believe is rather bad mannered. Insults and threats even more so.
If anyone here was offered a deal where you could buy as much of any kind of berries as you wanted for free for the rest of your life, but they had to be conventionally grown berries and not organic, would anyone here accept that deal? If you accept that deal, you would not be allowed to buy organic berries, not even if you want to pay for them, but you can buy an infinite amount of conventionally grown berries for free and save thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars a year.
One of my colleague's wife suffered from severe menstrual cramps to the point of even getting hospitalised. I just on hunch suggested that they completely eliminate meat, spicy and fast food from her diet and replace it with salad and seasonal fruits. Long story short, the extreme pain completely vanished within 3 months.
It never ceases to amaze that, although it's totally obvious from our form/physiology we humans are not carnivores but omnivores, we still have many among us who fall for the carnivore BS. Great job clearing up some of that BS!
It’s probably part of the whole Alpha Male trend. They imagine themselves an apex predator like as a lion, but they could never fight a lion with their actual fingernails and molars.
Beef liver has some of the most concentrated folate amounts out of anything you could eat. Along with all these other vitamins he speaks of. People on carnivore need to eat liver and the problem is solved. Most of the vitamins in plants cant be absorbed by humans. Why ....because we are supposed to eat meat. We absorb meat completely
What about the traditional Inuit diet? Now this portion is a copy-paste from google "The Inuit traditionally consume an animal-rich diet, composed of marine and terrestrial mammals (e.g., seal and caribou), as well as wild birds and fish."
Thanks so much for this video. My favourite channel. So well presented again, as always. Many years ago I recommended my husband to do a keto diet. I still feel so guilty. He felt so miserable the whole time during that diet, even though he ate so much vegetables. Luckily we bought Dr. Michael Gregers book, and then found your channel. Thanks for the update about the beauty blogger, so happy she changed to the Esselsteyn protocol. Your videos are so important to educated people about the dangers of keto/carnivore. Also I wonder why these professors do a zoom-interview (e.g. as featured in Nutrition made simple), and don't have a good audio set up. I can't understand them, the audio is so bad.
It’s really annoying because they call it the “prime diet”. Like name one real athlete who follows this diet. Not a guy who took bronze at his local gym’s moving boulders challenge. A nba player, nfl player, soccer star, tennis player. Someone who actually needs to compete at a high level. They send you the same article that LeBron did keto for one summer 10 years ago and that Kobe post his prime cut out processed sugars. That’s not even carnivore…
We humans are a double edge sword. We can be smarter than most beings, and also dumber than most beings. Knowing that we are apes is so, so obvious that we are not carnivores. Most apes are herbivores, and none are carnivores.
@@JonathanBarnes Chimpanzees and Bonobos occasionally eat meat and especially colobus monkeys. They more often eat termites it is thought for Omega 3. They are mainly Frugivores. Gorillas, Gelada Baboons and Languars are mainly herbivorous/folivorous. Most Primates are Frugivores but will eat a small amount of meat and insects (squirrel monkeys are big on insects.) Ancestral Primates were Insectivorous (before the evolution of fruits) going back 65 million years ago upwards.
Lions have millions of years of evolution leading them to become obligate carnivores and have many adaptions we don't. I think our last common ancestor with Felines was during the Mesozoic before the ancestral Primates split from ancestral Rodents (mainly plant eaters/gnawers) Euarchontoglires. These are in a supergroup Boreoeutheria along with the various hoofed animals. Another point is that as most Primates today are Frugivores: one reason for their high intelligence is thought be be due to memorising where the various rain forest fruit trees are and judging when the fruit is ripe.
One of the things that really made sense to me, was when someone asked if I had ever had a piece of meat in my stool. Many different vegetables and other foods, but never any type of meat. It digests easier than just about anything
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I’m not a vegan, I have meat maybe once a week or two, so I’m not strongly in one camp or the other, but people on the carnivore diet do seem to make claims it’s had miraculous effects (positive) on their health. Many claim they completely unclog their arteries (as per their medical checks). I don’t know if it’s true, but at the same time, why would someone lie about that?
As an ex carnivore girly I can tell u it does help a lot because u start getting alot of nutrition but it’s not good long term u end up gaining weight a lot eventually I got heart palpitations etc.
now I eat mainly plants but I love eggs I follow the Mediterranean Diet now which is what my 93 year old alive energetic Grampa follows
As a vegetarian who’s just trying to take care of my family the best I know how to - videos like this help me breath again. Seriously, to try giving my family a well-rounded plate and hear “experts & professional” telling me that plants are actually giving them toxins 🤯?! It’s so overwhelming constantly shifting through all of the starkly conflicting dietary advice out there. I research and try to stay well informed, but hearing “they’re lying about the science” repetitively really starts to make one think they’re going insane 😅.
If you guys feel good on a plant based diet then great. There are outliers but most people on plant based diets (which is most people) have too many issues to list here.
@@steveherridge8965 my family isn’t vegetarian. My diet is predominantly vegetarian, but I alter my eating based on how I feel occasionally.
Who gets rich if we eat a plant based diet? Plants are the cheapest and easiest to grow foods. There are no monopolies controlling the 86,000 edible plant foods. Meanwhile, a handful of companies control the meat industry and they lobby the world's governments heavily to get rid of any science that shows how toxic their foods are. The design and pay for hundreds of studies that try to show benefits from their products. They have yet to succeed. There is no scientific evidence in medical history that humans benefit from animal consumption anywhere. There are thousands of studies showing the opposite. And this evidence doesn't make any rich person richer. Think about that.
@@steveherridge8965I you had the long list, you’d list them. Carnivores know how to lie. Put up your evidence to take down your post!
@@courag1 Wayyy too many assumptions, which is typical as vegan's brains tend to shrink (that's one issue) - I can link the source of a 5 years study if you like, along with anxiety, depression, extreme weigh loss or extreme weigh gain (like most fruitarians), B12 deficiency along with deficiencies in choline, Carnitine etc. skin issues, sunken eyes (which is very typical in most long term vegans), thin necks, terrible conversion of certain plant vitamins etc. etc. How’s this little list for starters, or am I lying?
70% of human salivary protein is devoted to dealing with tannins (which come from plants). From "Traces of dietary patterns in saliva of hominids: Profiling salivary amino acid fingerprints in great apes and humans", Feb 2023
That is relevant, in what way?
Not to mention we evolved starch desolving amylase which makes up 40-50% of the protein in our saliva to literally convert starches into sugars.
Because all evidence, including the most important (health outcomes) shows plant based diets are optimal for human health.
@@nastasedrif you can't figure out how that information is relevant to the conversation, you have bigger issues.😂
@@blackpalacemusic Too much cholesterol and iron blocking blood flow to the brain kind of problems. I see it every day during outreach effort.
Microplastics is a big thing now. My friends have no problem of me being vegan for 9 years or so. I now just tell them how nice it is to eat from the lowest possible place in the food chain. Least possible plastics, yay!
What do you think pesticides and herbicides are made from. Unless you are eating from a garden you grow. Commercially grown plants are highly toxic
That’s great - except that’s almost the smallest part of it! Super optimised health, the most effective personal action you can take to help climat change, no animal violence. oh and let’s add the super aid to combat the super serious antibiotic resistance issue.
Not only is it the least.. farm animals are fed plastic! there's like an allowance ..or 3% or something in their feed! and you can actually see the plastic in some feeds!
Yes! People often forget why mercury is so concentrated in predatory fish like Tuna l-it’s higher on the food chain
Even if microplastics are harmless, it is still a symptom of larger problems in food production
great vid mic. thanks coworker has been doing keto for 6 months....he lost a bunch of weight...but his list of supplements and ldl is on the rise. my personal feeling are that it doesn't matter what my ancestors ate, or even what I ate at my last meal. What matters is what I will eat...and that is a wfpb vegan diet. The science is behind it and it is compassionate and less harmful to our only place to live.
“Irritability, which you will see in the comments.” Lmaoooo😂 you’re on a roll.
Well. Irritability is a cortisol issue... Saturated fat stimulate leptin, carbs stimulate ghrelins... Ghrelins stimulate cortisol...
It's usually the Vegans who act as nazi heathen...
Ha ha, that's every vegan ever, right? Actually I do know a couple of cool vegans.
Yeah, I enjoyed that one, too.
Makes me think of Dr Bergs reaction on nutrition made simple channel😅 He didn't took it well
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I'm 65 yrs old tried the carnivore diet because my new Holistic Doctor told me it was better then my 8 yr Vegan diet that i am on. In 48 days on carnivore my gout went away, I lost 6 lbs. ,I don't have to take my diabetic pills anymore, my swollen prostrate is getting better , my brain fog is almost gone, my knee pain is gone, I stopped taking my blood pressure meds, I am sleeping through the night without having to get up to pee 2 times, my eye flouters are gone, my long distance vision has improved, my bald spot on the top of my head is starting new hair growth. I had to go back to Vegan because my wife said my face had a pink look to it she liked it better when i had a gray looking face.
😂😂😂
Whole vegan foods could do even more for you.
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Wtf are you talking about lol
I am 152 years old and became true carnivore and eat only carnivore animals as the apex predator. I am the last real man standing. Even Klaus Schwab came to my house to stop me. I walk around my area to find any carnivore roadkill(cat and dog) to eat raw. I am superior. I have ascended! I am the SECOND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST!
The oxalate dumping reminds me of how people adopting the raw food diet will attribute all negative symptoms to “detoxing.” I knew a lot of people who followed a raw diet (raw fruit, veg, nuts, and honey), and would have fatigue, headaches, and a lot of other symptoms of energy deficit, but they would always say, “I’m detoxing.” I would argue that a carnivore diet is far worse than a raw diet (one that excludes any raw meat, eggs, or dairy), though.
I would highly recommend you trial carnivore for 90 days before you make claims that it is worse. You are not really qualified to comment.
There's a lesser known myth that carnivores have expressed to me, they think that the consumption of plant foods have somehow caused human brains to de-evolve and become smaller and they always say this under the presumption of their other myth of how they think human beings were all purely carnivorous before the agricultural revolution.
They don't know how evolution works then.
What evidence do you have that they were not mostly carnivorous before the agricultural revolution?
@@La_TangoMariaado you?
@@fabienpaillusson7390 I think the question that should be asked is what evidence do you have that they were? Even remains of neanderthals have been discovered to have traced of plant material including that of nuts on their teeth and they lived in Europe during the ice age meanwhile homo sapiens were still living in the warmer equatorial region, every isolated tribe that either exists now or has existed eats other things than meat and it wouldn't make sense or be convenient for them to only eat as such anyway. You carnivores neglect education and learning in favor of feelings.
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I think carnivores saw Little Shop of Horrors and thought it was a documentary. XD
Yeah all 98% of us world population that is meat eatters compered to you rabbits
Either that or they believe that Jeffrey Dahmer is the new messiah.
@@ceeemm1901 LOL!!
Hahaha.
I was thinking return of the killer 🍅's .
Dr Chafee got his degree from this film and skipped his cancer biology class when discussing Bovine Lukemiamia Virus.😢
I’m surprised no one talks about the fact that true carnivorous animals produce their own vitamin c in their livers whereas fruit bats, Guinea pigs and humans (and apes) need to get it from the diet, presumably because we have adapted to a high plant based diet.
not true. humans that eat high protein low carb diets actually need less vitamin c which can be taken from red meat. we also see that those who eat higher carb diets also need more vitamin c which they take from plant based foods.
Because many herbivores _also_ make their own vitamin C. Like homo-sapiens sapiens primary food source... Fatty ruminant animals... Which we then eat... For Vitamin C...
And we know we ate that because of recent analysis of 350,000 year old bones. Vitamin C is actually a recessive gene, ours got deactivated because we didn't need it "for some reason". It might have something to do with the fact that humans live nearly 3x longer than primates.
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This exactly. It is so starkly simple. Humans do not create vitamin C in their bodies, thus they must get it from their diet. What is the best source? Fruits and vegetables. Carnivores create their own vitamin C. If this isn't the clearest fact pointing to human dietary physiology, I don't know what is.
@@RawandCookedVegan I am carnivore for 2 years and I do not get vitamin C from fruits or vegetables and I do not supplement. No scurvy so far. Explain that.
Imagine never getting to enjoy a piece of fruit. Instead you get organ meats lmao. Sad.
Imagine not being able to eat nice salmon steak with butter or some delicious spicy honey wings. Instead you get soy and supplements lmao. Sad and cringe.
After 5+ years carnivore, I still do not crave fruit but I usually have chocolate when I have a cheat day 🤣
Fruit is not so desirable.
To never again enjoy fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta. The list goes on. It’s such a depressing and boring diet isn’t it.
@@helencaleb2188 But if you get rid of asthma and can finally relax, breath and sleep for 8 hours, you gladly forget about all that fresh baked bread, a croissant and coffee, a slice pizza, rice or noodles, a big bowl of pasta ....
@@GarudaLegends sounds like a limited diet, my plant based diet is full of variety and flavor from all parts of the world. Curries, soups, burritos, tacos, stews, stir frys and none of it clogs my arteries either! I can eat all of the delicious healthy foods with none of the suffering included as well. Health benefits are a bonus.
I've personally consulted more than a few long-term carnivore dieters in my career as a dietitian, and every single one of them was or was about to start taking a multivitamin every day because they ran into trouble with symptomatic deficiency. It happens 100% of the time, if they don't supplement. So anyone doing pure carnivore for a long time, who says they don't have deficiencies and are not taking supplements, are LYING TO YOU.
Shawn has obviously been lying. He got called out for having bananas on his counter, claimed they weren't his, then deleted the video, backtracked, and said he was actually eating fruit but was just "experimenting" to test lmhr theory despite not being lmhr himself.
He has said in a couple of podcasts that he takes a couple of days off each week. Meanwhile the poor people who try to follow "pure" carnivore get into all sorts of problems ...
@kieranstyx3633 No, he made a followup vid and said the bananas were his kids'. He does have an entire family living there.. they're not on his diet necessarily.
I don't plan on taking an supplements
@@llicit1833a couple days off each week? Would you clarify? He repeatedly says it's a meat diet, sometimes eggs. Very little else.
Ok, I trust what you say, BUT a wfpd made me feel sick and now I’m feeling healthy on a carnivore diet, there are others like me…
Thanks Mic. Going on 5 years vegan, after 45 years vegetarian.
Same here, 11 years vegan now.
Jealous
Me too, 41 years vegetarian, 13 years vegan. Excellent health and blood markers.
Condolences
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One thing about the carnivore diet I couldn't stand; there's hardly any variety. Vegans can eat all kinds of things.
vegan: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life'
carnivore: 'This is the proper human diet, the research proves it, and it saved my life'
People eat what they want.
@@martysk8rExcept one group restricts themselves far less and for the sake of ethics usually and the other restricts themselves to a very limited selection for the sake of chasing a vibe, trolling or taking questionable advice that they cope with by clinging onto conspiracy theories about anyone else who says different.
@@martysk8r sure, but the ones who want and do eat a plant based diet do it for much longer, according to the best available evidence.
Again with the "ancestral" argument: 50 million years or so of plant predominant primates; Homo species approx 2 million years; Homo sapiens - few hundred thousand years. So plant predominant phase is 25-150 times longer .... Perhaps why so much research showing plants are good for us
True. And as homo as well as homo sapiens we were still predominantly plant eaters. Despite the macho hunter fantasies.
That's not how evolution works, you only keep the adaptations you require for your environment, Humans stopped eating predominantly plants to hunt millions of years back and continued doing it right up until agriculture which is when Human's started getting smaller, weaker and more prone to disease.
@@ryanwellington7493 You are talking about hunting and ignoring foraging. Typical mistake.
@@carinaekstrom1 because it only accounted for around 20% of total food intake and that's based on all data we have not just cherry picked samples and then you have tribes like the Inuit who survived on just meat without issues since y'know they lived in the arctic.
@@ryanwellington7493 The Inuit have a the story of a god that gives them constipation and are one of the sickest populations ever. They have osteoporosis in their teens because of their diet.
Here he is instead of eating one extreme by the other. The best thing to do I believe is eat whole foods, figure out what works for you and what doesn't and adjust accordingly to your body type. There's no one size fits all for everyone
The side effects of a carnivore diet sound absolutely awful. I had enough digestive issues on an omnivore diet that I can’t even imagine going carnivore. So much happier, healthier, and feeling better completely plant based.
My side effects are lovely 🤣
No more obesity, prediabetes, loose teeth, bleeding gums, sensitive teeth
cold sores, blocked sinuses, mouth breathing, left eye twitches (tetany)
heartburn, calf cramps, yellow stool, blood in stool
edema below the knees, painful feet when walking, sunburn is less
shoulder, back and neck pain after waking, lower back pain and stiffness
The carnivore diet is the only one that when I’m on it I shit perfectly
Same 🌱
I tried carnivore before I read the effects of it (after having issues myself, I started googling)… their heroes like Ken Berry and that chiropractor led me down a path of very high cholesterol, BP and high glycemic levels (they should try measuring every hour for over 3 hours like I did. A meat based meal sent my BG levels into the 170s even after 5 HOURS. I’m not diabetic or even pre-diabetic. My hba1c is completely normal). Diabetes is in my family so I’m very focused on it
Carnivore is a scam. Plant based is real, and wfpb vegan even better! My cholesterol is 120s with LDL at 68 🎉🎉
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Plants are the scam - pushed by every governmental health organisation - the exact ones that wanted to needlessly operate on me!
You're just going with the flow - good luck
@@Meathead-10810😂😂😂 sorry to tell you that I also don't have any of those issues on a plant based diet 😘💚🌱
Some of the things you mention went away with my plant based diet and some of the other issues, is something I never knew was something you could get 😵💫😂
Why is it that most people on a long-term carnivore diet end up having a really red face?
This is the reason my brother thankfully didn't try the diet for more than 5 days. That and he felt like he was sick the whole time as well
Yes! And they get a kind of hardened puffiness.
Redness in the face is a symptom of inflammation according to traditional Chinese medicine
I know, right? It's hilarious.
It'd be nice to think that they're blushing with shame. But of course they don't HAVE any shame. 😉
Chaffee clearly hasn't seen Vikings...ALL they went on about is wanting to build farms in England!
Genesis 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb...and the tree yielding fruit...and God saw that it was good.
Then Dr. Chaffee came along and said it was bad.
that's awesome that 50 plus beauty switched to plant based and she didn't get lost further down the batshit carnivore rabbit hole
How about "egg has all the nutrients you need"
And all the cholesterol you don't!
Isn’t if funny carnivores eat eggs and dairy, meanwhile no carnivore animals eat that? Show me a lion eating milk lol
Eggs are also high in sodium.
@@DetoxMorgellons many animals eat eggs though. But carnivore animals even eat grass and plants, even fruits when they need it and its avaidable.
@@DetoxMorgellonsAdorable lion cubs. But only for a few months then they go 🦓. 😅💚🌱💙
Hey Mic Been taking seeds for a while now they’ve literally change my life. Thanks
Hemochromatosis- too much iron. If you’re of Northern European ancestry, particularly Ireland, you may well be able to take in too much iron from all those steaks.
And then there’s gout.
Check your teeth and compare them to a lion or wolf’s. Their teeth aren’t made for grinding greens like human’s are…
Well last time i checked humans dont use their teeth for hunting
Exactly. And also we have a side-moving jaw so our teeth can grind fibre. Carnivore jaws only go up and down.
Well said. I am a carrier of Hemochromatosis and coincidently or not, like my Dad don't get any craving for meat. The disease is SERIOUS as it is often mis-diagnosed until it is too late.
Geez wow this is sad guys. Close your mouth and then try and move side to side. A for effort
@@perijon00 You can move your lower jaw from side to side with your lower and upper teeth brushing past each other, as happens when there's food between them. (Obviously you can't move it from side to side if you clamp your teeth shut. smh)
Yes, please do a part 2. One of the other claims that is made, is that they don’t get sunburned, because they don’t eat any seed oils.
What's so bad with eating an orange, bell pepper, snow peas...
Those oxalates will kill you, man.
The point of low carb is to up-regulate your fat and ketone burning metabolism. Ie. Ketosis. An orange or pepper isn't going to hurt anyone but that's the opposite direction.
Everything
The carnivore diet runs on a very carefully balanced metabolic regime of fats, bullshit, cult like denial and painful constipation. If you add a vegetable to that it falls apart violently.
Soaked in glysophate. Hydroponic veg has no natural nutrition may as well eat cardboard.
The vegan & carnivore community's need to find some common grounds & truly help people & not attack each other.
Well wishes.
Since you bring up kidney stones, I got a friend who at the ripe age of 19 had to be hospitalized for kidney stones after doing keto for a couple of years or so. When I tried to explain him and his mother about the link between keto and kidney stones it seems like they didn't even read the article I presented to them.
Funny! I have had the total opposite experience, I have been plant based since 2007 and have had several serious flare up’s of gout on that diet, but in April 23 I switched to Carnivore just as an experiment, and now it is a year since I started, and no gout flare up’s or arthritis whatsoever! There must be some other connections that are triggering gout problems.
@@floffywombat9109 that's not "the total opposite experience" at all. The total opposite experience of "being hospitalized for kidney stones" would be to get cured from kidney stones. What you are telling is simply a *different* experience, unrelated, that you try to wedge by saying is "the total opposite", but clearly is not, and, therefore, it gets you the total opposite result you intended to get by writting it.
@@sergiomontes2568
Writting it, or Writing ✍️ it ? 🤔😁
And it did in fact Cure the Kidney stone, AND the Gout problems!
@@floffywombat9109 no, if you read it more carefully, you will realise he is not writing "Kidney stone, AND the Gout", but " kidney stones, I got a friend"
It is GOT, and not GOUT.
@@sergiomontes2568
Don’t you understand what Gout is ???
Look it up!
The reason miss Peterson said she had a folate deficiency is because she only ate a particular meat. She said she's going to eat liver to get that. It's like you just eating lettuce. You're going to get some deficiency somewhere.
Had blood work 3 weeks ago. Will admit that I'm not 100% vegan. Moving in that direction. Some fish when catch it myself. But over the last year I've gone months without any fish. In the last 3 months almost none. B12 was at the high end. Iron was at this high end of the range. I even gave blood to reduce to the middle of the range. Vit D was 32 in the ideal range. Ate a garden full of collards and kale over the winter which gave me plenty of iron along with the lentils and chickpeas. 5'10 165 lb. BMI below 25.
It is beyond me how anyone could be healthy and happy eating just red meat. Love my huge plates of low calorie low fat diverse veggies for dinner.
While I believe in the benefits of plant based diets, I do think some animal products are good for you like fish. It's high in b12, omega 3 dha/epa, as well as things like creatine and taurine all of which are impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplements. The body does make taurine and creatine, but as we age, the body makes a lot less of it.
In the seventh day adventist blue zone in loma linda, the pesco-vegetarians out lived the vegans in this demographic.
C15 fatty acid, which is a newly discovered possibly essential fatty acid, is also impossible to get on a vegan diet without supplementation. Studies have shown low c15 levels were associated with faster aging. Grass fed butter is the best source of c15, you only need 1 tablespoon, which will keep you well under the rda for saturated fat.
If you are going to go on a straight vegan diet, I would consider getting supplements for all the things I mentioned.
I don't think eating red meat is healthy, but fish is good for you, just make sure and eat the ones low in mercury.
@@adim00lah The only thing you are missing out on in fish, you struggle with to get in a plant-based diet is the heavy metals and cholesterol.
But go ahead, "belive" whatever you want, science on the other hand says otherwise.
@@ItsBoyRed Science says otherwise about what exactly? I don't understand the first sentance you typed why would someone struggle to get in heavy metals, who wants that?
@@adim00lah That there is nothing in fish you need that you cant get better from plants.
@@ItsBoyRed I can't get taurine or creatine from plants. I need artificial supplements for that. Yes the body does make these, but when you get older they start to decline a lot. So now that I'm middle aged, I want to get more in my diet.
I don't want to have rely on b12 supplements, I can get b12 from fish. I can also get dha/epa omega 3 without needing algae oil supplements. If you want to live off supplements, that's fine, I'd rather live off food, to each their own.
I'm not against anyone that wants to go vegan, but I don't want to be vegan. Even when looking at the seventh day adventist studies, the pesco-vegetarians and lacto-ovo vegetarians do better on reduction of all causes of mortality.
In this demographic, pesco-vegetarians had an 18% lower risk of death, vegetarians 15%, and vegans 3% compared to those who eat meat according to this below study:
"Cause-specifica and all-cause mrtalities in vegetarian compared with those in nonvegetarian participants from the adventist health study-2 cohort"
Let’s not get so hateful towards each other. Carnivore works for me that’s all I know for sure but had I a different make up perhaps Vegan would work better for me, I don’t really know. What I do think is that everyone contributing to this conversation mostly means well and would like to inform others of their personal experience. Let’s have more love❤❤ 🥩 🌽
There was a TH-camr who said she turned carnivore cos she wrecked her kidneys by having a green smoothie everyday loaded with spinach. I commented that TH-cam is full of people who go to extremes. She replied “You’re not wrong”.
Oh dear.
4.5 months on carnivore and I haven’t gotten sick or had a headache. Fast 24 hours a day and have plenty of energy with a physical full time job. The numbness in my hands and feet went away. I can go to the bathroom when I choose. Could skip a day. Oh and I’ve lost 85lbs. You do you though…..
Did a very strict keto diet for 2 years. Major muscle cramping issues especially abdominal muscles. Tried to hydrate but they continued. Also developed blood clotting issues that could have killed me! Be careful guys!
liar.
I did keto for many years, it was my bridge to veganism. I never had cramping issues. Everyone is different; for example 95% of Asians are lactose intolerant, we all have individual needs. I stopped eating meat when I became more spiritually self aware, I felt a greater energy flow. I believe in being true to yourself. If one believes they are carnivores then so be it. If they start getting evangelical about carnivorism, then I do my best to ignore it because I know what my body thrives on, and it's definitely not animal products.
I've tried both diets, and I'm try to see the vegan side again. I think you have some points, but I disagree with most of what you're saying. How about the Chronometer with 4 eggs per day added? There is an issue with not enough fish. It makes sense to me people will have scurvy only eating tinned meat. The meat needs to be somewhat raw (the center of steak), to keep some vitamin C. But yes you need a lot less. There's a long adaptation process and mistakes people make. That's most of what you're calling out.
The good thing about carnivore is having satiety while losing weight. High cholesterol is linked to better mental health.
Yeah, I know this guy who had a cocaine addiction. He was never hungry and lost weight and looked really slim. Totally what we should aim for, right?
There are things like longterm health, which is kind of important. And based on the science, you are sacrificing your longterm health (while at the same time paying the animal industries to keep mass murdering innocent animals).
"The Importance of a Plant-Rich Diet for Long-Term Health
Incorporating a variety of plants into your diet is crucial for long-term health for several compelling reasons. First and foremost, plants are rich in essential nutrients that our bodies need to function optimally. Vegetables, fruits, legumes, nuts, and seeds are abundant sources of vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants, which play vital roles in maintaining our immune system, promoting healthy skin, and preventing chronic diseases.
One of the significant benefits of a plant-based diet is its high fiber content. Fiber is essential for digestive health as it promotes regular bowel movements, prevents constipation, and helps maintain a healthy gut microbiome. A healthy gut is linked to numerous health benefits, including improved digestion, enhanced immune function, and a lower risk of gastrointestinal disorders.
Furthermore, plant-based diets are associated with a lower risk of chronic diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, and certain types of cancer. The antioxidants and phytochemicals found in plants help combat inflammation and oxidative stress, both of which are underlying factors in the development of these chronic conditions. Additionally, consuming a variety of plants can help manage weight by providing a feeling of fullness and reducing the likelihood of overeating, thereby lowering the risk of obesity-related diseases.
Plants are also beneficial for maintaining healthy blood pressure and cholesterol levels. The potassium found in many fruits and vegetables helps regulate blood pressure, while the soluble fiber in foods like oats, beans, and lentils can help lower LDL cholesterol levels. This combination significantly reduces the risk of cardiovascular diseases.
Moreover, a plant-rich diet supports environmental sustainability. By choosing more plant-based foods, individuals can reduce their carbon footprint and contribute to the conservation of natural resources. Sustainable eating habits not only benefit personal health but also the health of our planet.
In summary, a diet rich in plants is indispensable for long-term health. It provides essential nutrients, supports digestive health, reduces the risk of chronic diseases, aids in weight management, and promotes cardiovascular health. Additionally, it fosters a sustainable relationship with our environment. Therefore, embracing a plant-rich diet is a proactive step towards achieving and maintaining overall well-being."
@@MindVersusMisery Cocaine is made from plants which makes sense because plants are trying to kill you.
@@MindVersusMisery Cocaine comes from plants. Plants make you act a certain way that’s why I avoid it.
Hmm. I thought high cholesterol was linked to cardiovascular disease and Alzheimers.
Mic the Vegan, This is great! I liked it and subscribed!
He seems to act like Vegans wouldn't get deficiencies without supplements. I got anemia, low protein, cramps, and my doctor was worried I would bleed out my blood was so thin. That was with whole organic Vegan foods, juicing, berries, nuts, potatoes, tons of veggies, lentils, black rice, millet, spirulina, and the highest quality multivitamin. Whatever diet we are all genetically sub optimal and are dealing with toxins and stress.
He didn’t say vegans couldn’t get deficient, it’s to each their own. What might work for you might not work the next person vice versa etc
He starts showing the "deficiencies" by showing one cut of meat.
I don't eat meat, but the vast majority doing carnivore eat, beef, bacon, eggs and many include cheese and milk. It covers almost every single vitamin and mineral. When you don't consume sugar and carbs the amount of vitamin C you need is much less because glucose competes with vitamin C. Meat and fish also have way more bioavailable vitamins
It's good for Mic to do a counter argument but it's always just flashing up a study without saying who funded it or if it's high quality research or just a questionnaire. Then saying it "improved" the outcomes, maybe it improved it by 0.5% but he doesn't say that. I see this time after time in his videos and him starting showing this 1 cut of meat is the usual ridiculousness
I haven't eaten meat for 20 years and I've taken supplements. I have deficiencies and so I can't stand Mic's cherry picking. It's dangerous and unfair to his audience
A vegan eating processed vegan junk food could watch his channel and think they're super healthy with the way he talks. Vegan is a difficult diet to get right
2 minutes in and he's quoting a random internet post about B12 deficiency 🙄 maybe the people didn't even test themselves before, who knows, again just a totally random cherry pick of info
Deficiencies don't often happen overnight!
@@bee_bee3you are right about his cherry picking. I say find out what works best for you. I am not vegan but many people are and happy. I’m concerned about my vegan friend having health concerns after 30 plus years vegan but I don’t say everyone is doomed to the same outcome. My friend asked me about carnivore as I follow. She said she didn’t want to do it. My response was “ok”.
I also feel there are so many exceptions to every rule as we are incredibly complex internally,
@@brianschulz6462 yes, everyone is different and changes throughout life. We should always remain open to new ideas and look deeply into the facts for ourselves which means looking at the research papers rather than someone's interpretation and cherry picking
I know there's little research about carnivore, but the individual stories are incredible. So many of them now. It does seem to be the ultimate elimination diet, fixing illness and diseases we couldn't think possible. I love when people get well and feel great however it is they get there.
I'm sorry to hear your friend isn't well, it's more tough to convince vegans and vegetarians, I know from myself because it was me ☺️ the top internet searches, news articles, guidelines all go in that favour we think it must be something else and not the "amazing" "healthy" food we're eating. I was so surprised how many nutrients are in fish and meat compared to vegetables, when you actually look at the sites that breakdown nutrition composition of food and they don't even count the nutrients that plants prevent you from absorbing. You're not told that as a vegan and vegetarian, it's very important so they can look very closely at their diet and add what's missing
I think sugar is the biggest culprit in all of this and meat got the blame. The studies don't actually separate just consuming meat alone. There's never really been a test of that
Use to follow you a lot when I was Vegan. Oxalate dumping is real mate. I personally went through it. Oxalates are the reason I quit veganism after 20 years. The FB group trying low oxlates is full of ex vegans who ended up with arthitis and health problems because of oxalates. My oxalate dumping started when I was still vegan because I got so sick I didn't eat much in 2 weeks. I absolutely loved baby spinach and potatoes. I was in so much pain my sides felt like fire and I could not walk.
Took 6 months for the pain to go away when I went low OX. But when ever I've been lazy and eaten a few high ox foods like raspberries, nuts or potatoes I eventually get the joint pain again
Even Goji man suffered from oxalate issues
That’s a lot of challenges keto and carnivore followers go through. I’d say wfpb is easier and safer.
What challenges? Stop listening to myths.
Symptomatic deficiencies in the comment that follows this one maybe.
@@nastasedrmultiple meta analysis show 40% increase in all cause mortality on low carb, meanwhile opposite on low fat plant based
News to me. I've had no challenges, just boundless energy.
@@cynicist8114 the stats are in, It will not end well for you , watch your CRP and LDL
Any LDL above 60 means you're atherosclerotic etc
I just think Americans are so far away from interacting with millions of people on a Mediterranean diet here in Europe where these issue very rarely occur.
I eat mediterranean diet every time I am there from Sardinia to Greece and if you think those people are anywhere near vegetarian or vegan... oh you would be so damn wrong.
I don’t think that, however, it is pretty much undisputed scientifically that the Mediterranean diet is one of the healthiest diets that is relatively easy to maintain unlike a vegan diet.
I have family that visits from there. Where they're from they eat predominantly a plant based diet with fish. Other meat is seldom eaten. Different areas have different diets, but the Mediterranean diet as a whole is primarily whole foods plant based with fish.
Just because your tourism involves seeking out unhealthy garbage doesn't mean the locals eat that.
I don’t understand your comment what has tourism to do with it. Unfortunately you will need to explain what you mean.
I'm feeling unrepresented as an omnivore...
History will repeat and omnivores will get their chances again
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 same. Even though I try these silly little diets carnivore, vegan, I always return to omnivore
Greetings Mic, I used a carnivore diet over the past 2 years to successfully treat seizures. Do you think I should quit doing that now?
Don't quit. He wants you to suffer like him with deficiencies. I've been carnivore for a year now.
You could accomplish the same thing with a ketogenic diet and/or CBD supplementation
@@LaurenForster What deficiencies?
I dunno. There are a ton of people who got really healthy on carnivore. It seems to help with autoimmune diseases. They lose weight which helps everything. If you really can’t drop weight eating other diets but carnivore works then it’s a good thing short term. It’s also a good option for certain gut problems. Some of us don’t handle much fibre. Cutting it right down helps those with IBD etc at lot.
One size does not fit all.
Thanks Mike for your research, as a keto dieter you give me food for thought
"Geneticists hypothesise that the DUPLICATION of starch digestion genes in early Homo sapiens (∼300 kya ie 300,000 years ago), is an adaptive response to an increased starch diet". Via "Cooked starchy food in hearths ca. 120 kya and 65 kya (MIS 5e and MIS 4) from Klasies River Cave, South Africa", 2019
I vote for a 4-part deep dive on carnivore myths 😂
At 400K do a 4 hour debunk of anti vegans
Another Carnivore on YT with a heart attack: The Champion Within
I think I watched his video the other day, he's still carnivore, right?
@@RoughNeckDelta i think so.
Was it a heart attack or stroke?
He seems like he's still doing great and scheduled for a 5k run in the near future.
Oh, and it was a stroke, and he admitted was still eating dirty processed snacks (after a lifetime of doing the same). Not exactly a great case for you carb lovers :)
@@Mallchad it's called cognitive dissonance. Do you think it's a coincidence that every carnivore influencer, has a video on how to deal with digestive issues on the carnivore diet?
If a flat earther decided to make up a diet, it would be the carnivore diet.
vegans are like flat earthers. They are delusional to the point they actually think their diet is healthy, when it has been proven to be unhealthy and deficient.
Yeah just completely disregard the diet our species evolved on for millions of years right up until agriculture when health coincidentally started to decline in Human's 😂
😂 truth
@@ryanwellington7493hunters and gatherers with occasional animals? Sure… “carnivore”, lol nope
@@seitanbeatsyourmeat666 Ikr? The lack of clear thinking is just unbelievable.
“Endogenously, So you ain’t dodgin’ this, G!” “Unsubscribe!” 🤣🤣🤦🏻♀️
I don't usually comment on videos but just couldn't help myself after reading some of the comments. For most of my life I ate the SAD and then about 10 years ago I went Vegan believing it to be healthier. It is absolutely healthier than the SAD. That said I gained weight on the diet and didn't feel healthy. Plus I have had 12 calcium oxalate kidney stones over the years; the last one they had to go get with a laser. Many plants are high in oxalates; too numerous to name but nuts and soy products are at the top of the list. About 5 years ago I switched to Keto and lost 50 pounds and felt great and have transitioned to carnivore which has helped me even more. If you think vegan is a good diet for you great and more power to you but I've noticed one difference on this blog. Carnivores talk about the benefits on their diet and what they feel is lacking in a vegan diet. Vegans talk about carnivores and not in a good way. Our ancestors ate what they could find or kill. Plants weren't readily available. Broccoli, cauliflower, carrots, etc. are all hybrids that we've scienced to make palatable. Most of which have only been available for about 4000 years. I would suggest talking about the benefits of your diet will win you more converts than bad mouthing equally intelligent people who opt to follow a different path.
@homie3461 I absolutely was vegan and got plenty of exercise. Walking 5 hours a day delivering mail is exercise. Prior to that I spent 22 years in the USMC. I know exercise. I didn't say I was fat; I said I gained weight. I was 5'10" and around 215 and have been lifting weights pretty much my whole life so I ate a lot of beans for the protein. The problem was TOO many carbs. I also didn't say there weren't any plants in the past. You do know that ruminant animals can eat plants that humans can't right? Multiple stomachs do wonders for digesting plants that would be toxic for us. Moose and other deer eat tree bark and buffalo live off of grass. Try eating those things and see how that goes. The example you equate are childish at best. Eating differently is now the same as being a child sex abuser. What do you think humans ate prior to farming started roughly 14000 years ago? We ate what ever we could find or kill ... Mammoth was a favorite. What about indigenous populations in northern Canada, Alaska and similar places? Think they were farming on ice or eating the abundant plant matter? Indigenous populations in the US used to follow the buffalo migrations. Tribes in the Dakotas are said to have lived almost entirely off meat. That's human history and you can't change it. Our digestive systems is omnivorous. I repeat myself that instead of trying to have a conversation vegans choose to belittle anyone that is opposed to their dogma. Thanks for proving my point.
Agree, the way he talks makes him seem to have a lack of good arguments, almost shouting at all those weird carnivores.
Well done for turning your health around.
I literally was just having this conversation with an ex-vegan turned "carnivore dieter" and this proved me right! #veganlifeforthewin
That’s like going from being an Obama voter to voting for Trump, makes no sense other than they don’t really know why they’re doing what they’re doing.
@hugomarquez3189 They are so convinced that whoever told them to only eat 1lb of meat every meal, knew what they were talking about. Their only concern was they wouldn't get gas, and that had is caused by veggies. That's just an unhealthy gut.
Meat eater(not talking about carnivore diet) live vasly longer than vegans. The vegan diet is an L
@@GarudaLegends evidence?
Meh. On any diet, I would take vitamins. Doesn't matter. Vegan. Carnivore. Omnivore. Mediterranean. Just take the vitamins. Cover your bases.
I would look into that a little further. Many supplements can throw your natural balance out of whack. I am sure mic has a video on that!
@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 b12 is a must and vitamin d is important too if your not getting enough sun or eating fortified foods. But, all other nutrients aren't necessary if your eating enough vitamins and minerals.
@@La_TangoMariaa I agree that both those are important but I do not eat fortified foods. I have quite a bit of fermented plants in my diet made by myself. In 40+ years being plant based I have never been deficient in any vitamin - probably because i eat a varied diet.
@@wholefoodplantbasedmama5398 Yeah I would say without vitamins, you are likely to be deficient in B12, D, and iron. Iron needs to be talked about a lot more. That's so important and almost nothing contains it. I eat everything and was very deficient. I also run every day so maybe that's a difference. And yes I eat beans, and nuts, and tofu every day. It isn't enough if you are deficient. It barely hits the minimum recommendation.
I got short of breath doing carnivore, literally thought I was going to die. Added carbs back and it went away...
Sounds scary. Glad you’re better.
My uncle almost died because of the carnivore diet, need to be really careful with all this misinformation online. But now he wants me to cook him plant based meals, yay! Also, glad to hear your better now!
i BET you did it not more than a few days, few weeks max. Look for someone in the carnivore community who "died of short breath" hahahaha
You guys are being ridiculous
@@La_TangoMariaahahahahahaha your uncle almost diet on the carnivore diet? Do you actually believe that? Please give me some argument, he almost died of what? How are you vegans always making such ridiculous unfounded statements? Who is dying of a carnivore diet??
Id HEAVILY suggest you talking to a carnivore who was an ex vegan, there are plenty. Youre deluded and your uncle didnt almost die because of the carnivore diet hahahaha
@@oranges557nice try shawn baker
"...humans and their livestock make up 96% of the world's mammals interms of biomass, while wild mammals only make up 4%." Need we say more?
Because we went from hunting to farming and our population increased, you really are special aren't you 😂?
Who cares?
Because we killed all bison and replaced them with cattle.
@@neilnewinger3059 but American bison only lives in America. There is european bison. But usually most places on earth never had any bisons
@@neilnewinger3059 so should we introduce the bison as an invasive non native species to places on earth where they never existed before? Because bisons only lived in a very specific part of the earth
I will never understand what all of the carnivore supporters do here in the comments. Like idk I don’t have that much time to spend on watching videos about meat. The only way I know about carnivore is by watching vegan TH-camrs speaking about it.
But thanks to the views i guess, spreading the message is indeed important 🤣
Rightttt! Like ik Damn well this is not on their algorithm unless they’re searching it up intentionally because they have lot of time on their hands
I am lean mass hyper processed food responder.
The more pizza, kebabs, butter, chocolate, burgers i eat the smaller and leaner i am, soon im going to surpass earth size, because i eat vegan diet on IF, help me.
LMHR is the stupidiest excuse to eat unhealthy meat so far i have heard.
And the only people who use those people to justify dietary preferences are in the low carb/carnivore circles unfortunately.
My friend has been vegan for over 30 years. He is currently out of work for a minimum of 8 weeks as his legs have been hurting to excruciating levels for the last couple years and are swollen and weeping. Why?
Def gonna need a Part 2 to this video. Thanks, Mic!
Carnivores argue our ancestors were all Carnivores but in reality, ancient man ate what was in his immediate environment. Ancestors that lived with lots of fleshy animals ate more meats than ancestors that lived in plant surroundings. Archeaological evidence provides that heart disease was more prevalent among ancient meat eating populations than plant eating populations. Even from our own skeletal dental anatomy it is indicative that we are omnivores, because humans have both squared(plant eating) teeth and sharp(meat eating) teeth, no we don't have the mouth of a great white shark, or wolf or bear.
Been on carnivore diet since October 2023. All auto immune issues have resolved, lost weight, and feel amazing. Meat is the way 🥩
It’s interesting .. carnivore was not good for me
I’m 90% vegan, I acknowledge that in most situation, a lean cut of pasture raised meat is healthier than some ultra processed frozen soy burger. But:
1. These are unfair comparisons. You can’t draw a fair comparison using the healthiest form of protein from one source and the unhealthiest form from another. Spirulina blows meat out of the park nutrient wise. But since most people don’t eat the most optimal daily, a more practical comparison is comparing two frozen burgers. Beef vs. plant based. Both are probably not good for you.
2. Not all vegans do it for health. We like animals. But every attack brings up the point that vegan Oreo cookies are unhealthy. Duh
3. Reducing animal products benefits everyone eating a typical western diet. Even if you only eat a variety of organically produced lean meats, you still benefit from plants
Great stuff as always mikey boy
Mikey boy is looking very deficient here 😰
I've been a carnivore, and it dehydrated me like crazy. Ironically, it's when I got diabetes. Carnivores now, need to understand the concept of hydrolysis and lipolysis
Carnivore is a meme diet
So is veganism.
Tell that to Inuits.
@@neilnewinger3059 well the Greenlandic inuits collect plants and berries in the summer and eat it... They don't just eat meat. My mother in law was from a small town on the east coast and she told stories about collecting things from nature to eat. Sadly she died of a heart disease 68 years old....
@@frunikol Some of them. But there always were many of those, who lived in areas without any access to any plants.
@@neilnewinger3059 she was born and raised outside a small town of Ittoqqortoormiit on the east coast. Even Thule has greenery in the summer.... I think they all have some options for collecting plants to eat and use
3 weeks into the carnivore diet and the guy get kidney stones, definitely a carnivore diet issue. lol
This is one of your best videos! Love it. I wish more vegan content creators were doing this instead of making videos about ex vegans. Very informative.
You only showed a vitamin profile of steak. A healthy carnivore diet should include sea food and organ meat.
Saturated fat is perfectly healthy if you arnt consuming carbs.
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the meat he used in the video at 1:00 is grain fed steak, with "no visible fat eaten" (~1500 calories)
I give a shit on science.
Since I eat meat only, I'm physically and mentally healthy as fuck.
Thank you for your work!
(Just leaving a comment and like for the algorithm.)
Carnivores are the flat-earthers of nutrition. Same energy.
Vegans are the multiple bone fractures of the intensive care unit.
I eat a varied WFPB diet, a bit over 2000 calories/day. I check my food against cronometer a few times a year. The only thing I was ever low in was vitamin E, so I now add sunflower seeds to meals and it’s fine. I don’t use the US RDA for calcium. I use 700mg, the UK standard.
I tend to think T. Colin Campbell is right though and that looking at individual nutrients is a bit of a fools errand. But I can’t shake the sense I should check though.
I've been carnivore just over 3 months now, and oxalate dumping is real, it's been coming out of my skin and eyes. I probably would have been fine if I wasn't drinking raw spinach almond milk smoothies for years when I was trying to be vegan. I believed a raw vegan diet was the ultimate in healthy eating. Unfortunately it wasn't. My health has improved in a lot of ways now and I feel better. The biggest difference is that I can eat once or twice a day, feel satisfied and have stable mood and energy levels. I'm finally losing weight easily and feel comfortable in my body, which is not something I could say with all that grain and plant fibre. I guess we are all different. Maybe one day I will add back in some plants, maybe fruit, but for now, this is working well. Not a big fan of drama and division, we all have to eat, and everyone has a right to find out what diet works best for them.
The same thing here. You cannot deny the reality, it is just stupid AF. 8th month so far, and if oxalate dumping isn’t real, then we should doubt the reality, it is not there. It is just matrix 😄
so you went from processed liquid diet to all raw diet back to cooked.
and you blamed plants....
bravo idiot....
Agreed ❤
@@agnidas5816 form doesn’t matter that much. Of course liquid food is a bad idea, but you can absorb oxalates from baked potato, spinach or nuts, dark chocolate, tea, etc. Aren’t those considered to be health foods?
From one questionable diet to another.
Brilliant, picking a single food then complaining that it dosent have literally everything. Why not add eggs, milk, organs, different meat like pork or fish? For example, fatty pork cuts is one of the highest k2 vitamin source, and its the good form of k2 thats actually usable for humans not the plant version.
The Problem is behind Carnivore/Omnivore are multi billion Dollar Industries. Not so behind a healthy plants diet.
Not so! Farmers will 100% tell you they are NOT making any extra money at all! Ask any of them. This is why so many people are trying to start their own homesteads. It’s the industries backing the Standard American Diet (ultra processed/seed oils/sugars) that are making all the money. Carnivores (and I’m pretty sure most vegans too) eliminate all that processed junk/sugar/fake oils.
You don't actually believe that do you?
@@Bullshirt1983 the stock market rules the world.
you're hugely naive.
there are trillions of dollars behind it all because the industries are linked.
When you look up who runs the grocery stores and you find it's the same guys: Bayer ....
@@Bullshirt1983
Sorry it is not about believe here. You can believe in a Religion but we talk about how the things are. You have to learn who runs the world. It is not fun (might be easier not to know things) but it will help to make better decisions.
The US Beef Industry has a surveillance room to watch it all. All the things meat eating people believe are spread mostly by them. Same with Dairy Industry.
That's hilarious
One claim I keep seeing from Chafe and others,is that heart disease didn't exist before 1900
It didn't. He's right.😂
Eagerly anticipated. You did not disappoint, Mike.
This is so much ammunition for my debates with carnivores.
I already showed them Cronometer. They reject Cronometer. They say it is not accurate.
I vote for part 2.
@suspicionofdeceit Exactly, they'll reap what they sow...
You should argue with them, is a person whom you might help on the other side.
Imagine openly admitting you source your information from influencers with a blatant bias 😂
@@ryanwellington7493 Mike backs up everything he says with fully checkable evidence and logic.
Good for you. I have had so many insults and threats from Carnivores and Flat Earthers that I no longer check any replies on You-Tube. Actually, not answering such questions (politely of course) I believe is rather bad mannered. Insults and threats even more so.
If anyone here was offered a deal where you could buy as much of any kind of berries as you wanted for free for the rest of your life, but they had to be conventionally grown berries and not organic, would anyone here accept that deal? If you accept that deal, you would not be allowed to buy organic berries, not even if you want to pay for them, but you can buy an infinite amount of conventionally grown berries for free and save thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars a year.
I never buy organic. From what I’ve read it’s BS.
? I have raspberry bushes in the garden. I get free organic berries every year 😂 they grow themselves, it's great, recommend
@veganryori would you eat non organic berries from the supermarket if they were free?
How about “you need cholesterol for your hormones “ and “you need a lot of fat to survive “
One of my colleague's wife suffered from severe menstrual cramps to the point of even getting hospitalised. I just on hunch suggested that they completely eliminate meat, spicy and fast food from her diet and replace it with salad and seasonal fruits. Long story short, the extreme pain completely vanished within 3 months.
Ok, so using Reddit posts and anecdotal reports to back your claims, hmmm. Sure.
It's crazy how prevalent this diet is
It never ceases to amaze that, although it's totally obvious from our form/physiology we humans are not carnivores but omnivores, we still have many among us who fall for the carnivore BS. Great job clearing up some of that BS!
What physiology are you talking about? I cannot find many adaptations/organs for eating plants in humans at all. It'd be cool if you could list a few
It’s probably part of the whole Alpha Male trend. They imagine themselves an apex predator like as a lion, but they could never fight a lion with their actual fingernails and molars.
Doctors put patients on all meat diets to drop weight fast before surgery. It's literally a starvation diet.
Beef liver has some of the most concentrated folate amounts out of anything you could eat. Along with all these other vitamins he speaks of. People on carnivore need to eat liver and the problem is solved. Most of the vitamins in plants cant be absorbed by humans. Why ....because we are supposed to eat meat. We absorb meat completely
What about the traditional Inuit diet? Now this portion is a copy-paste from google "The Inuit traditionally consume an animal-rich diet, composed of marine and terrestrial mammals (e.g., seal and caribou), as well as wild birds and fish."
Ypu dont cover all vitamins if you only eat steak, but who says you should only eat steak. The carnivore diet includes liver, eggs, heart etc.
Myth 6. Animals already ate the produce for us why not just eat meat with suplyments instead ?.
If you need to supplement the literally most basic daily minerals on your diet, it's not the one.
You don’t need to, that’s the thing. 6 month carnivore here. No supplements taken and I feel amazing
@@DragosBlaga lol, ok bro
Thanks so much for this video. My favourite channel. So well presented again, as always. Many years ago I recommended my husband to do a keto diet. I still feel so guilty. He felt so miserable the whole time during that diet, even though he ate so much vegetables. Luckily we bought Dr. Michael Gregers book, and then found your channel. Thanks for the update about the beauty blogger, so happy she changed to the Esselsteyn protocol. Your videos are so important to educated people about the dangers of keto/carnivore. Also I wonder why these professors do a zoom-interview (e.g. as featured in Nutrition made simple), and don't have a good audio set up. I can't understand them, the audio is so bad.
It’s really annoying because they call it the “prime diet”. Like name one real athlete who follows this diet. Not a guy who took bronze at his local gym’s moving boulders challenge. A nba player, nfl player, soccer star, tennis player. Someone who actually needs to compete at a high level. They send you the same article that LeBron did keto for one summer 10 years ago and that Kobe post his prime cut out processed sugars. That’s not even carnivore…
7:20 if you actually read the post you'd see it was probably the alcohol that caused the gout
We humans are a double edge sword. We can be smarter than most beings, and also dumber than most beings. Knowing that we are apes is so, so obvious that we are not carnivores. Most apes are herbivores, and none are carnivores.
Just do some research on hunting chimpanzees?
@@JonathanBarnes Chimpanzees and Bonobos occasionally eat meat and especially colobus monkeys. They more often eat termites it is thought for Omega 3. They are mainly Frugivores. Gorillas, Gelada Baboons and Languars are mainly herbivorous/folivorous. Most Primates are Frugivores but will eat a small amount of meat and insects (squirrel monkeys are big on insects.) Ancestral Primates were Insectivorous (before the evolution of fruits) going back 65 million years ago upwards.
You may identify as an ape but I don't. I'm a human & an omnivore but I don't mind you being 'dumber than most beings'.🤓👍
These people make me sad.
Why are so many carnivore youtubers so radiant?
No offense truly- but the only "carnivores" i've seen look radiant look radiant with redness and high blood pressure blush 😭😭
@@kamifayeno. Vegans look weak old and scrawny
Is that how you pronounce oxalate? I thought the emphasis was on the O, not the A.
He has probably only just read about it recently, and never heard someone familiar with the topic talk about it.
@@His-Most-Catholic-Majesty
If you consider yourself more familiar with the topic perhaps you should post your opposing views.
@lxmzhg just search for Sally Norton, oxlates are her favourite subject.
I'm guessing lions don't randomly pass out because of their carnivore diet.
Well, lions live like 10 years or so only. So they pass out permanently.
Lions have millions of years of evolution leading them to become obligate carnivores and have many adaptions we don't. I think our last common ancestor with Felines was during the Mesozoic before the ancestral Primates split from ancestral Rodents (mainly plant eaters/gnawers) Euarchontoglires. These are in a supergroup Boreoeutheria along with the various hoofed animals. Another point is that as most Primates today are Frugivores: one reason for their high intelligence is thought be be due to memorising where the various rain forest fruit trees are and judging when the fruit is ripe.
@@classicgameplay1035 not 10
One of the things that really made sense to me, was when someone asked if I had ever had a piece of meat in my stool.
Many different vegetables and other foods, but never any type of meat. It digests easier than just about anything
Haha, now that you put it that way it makes sense