Meat Only Diets Debunked | Re: Joe Rogan Doctor + asapSCIENCE
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- With Joe Rogan's recent interview of the 'Doctor Who ONLY Eats Meat!' and asapSCIENCE asking 'What you only ate meat?' it is time to examine these 'carnivore' diets.
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TIY Tiny House Channel: / @tiytinyityourself7733
Joe Rogan Doctor Shawn Baker Interview: • Video
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License revoked:
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Listing that matched license number:
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Teacher loses weight on all McDonalds Diet:
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Meat Endotoxins:www.cambridge....
Neu5gc Cancer and inflammation:
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Animal protein boosts IGF-1:
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AHA: Eat no more than 13 grams a day: healthyforgood...
Fiber and Mortality study:
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Animal products 1/64 antioxidants: nutritionj.bio...
Inuit Mummies 60% Atherosclerosis:
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Inuit low bone density:
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Inuits are ate berries,seaweed and many other plants: www.chairecondi...
Maasai had atherosclerosis equal to old US men:
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Charles Washington no Organ meats, etc:
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Scurvy Guy:
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Top list of pathogens:
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Meat only case studies from 20s and 30s:
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Carbon Footprint of Diets:
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2 x 16 oz ribeye source:
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"Carbon dioxide from livestock respiration accounts for 21 percent of anthropogenic GHGs worldwide, according to a 2005 estimate by British physicist Alan Calverd." www.worldwatch...
We use 50% of lower 48 land fo livestock:
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Vegans 15% less cancer:
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Vegans 15% lower mortality:
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Vegan Diet Reversed Heart Disease:
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Vegan Diets 78% and 75% lower diabetes and hypertension risk, BMI:
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“You know, I’ve studied these large Facebook groups, like an anthropologist”. 😂🤦🏻♀️
Yeah and on another video (Tom Bilyeu EAT MEAT) he "took a poll." Is there an icon where you're slapping yourself in the head? Insert that here.
I was hoping this would go down! We can always count on you Mic.
Would’ve loved to see vegan gains call out this bullshit before mic did lol
Christmas come early - my favourite youtubers Mic. and Derek Simnett posting in the same few mins! (This sounds as cheesy as your vegan mac sauce..... great recipe ebook btw=)
Haha.. Then the holy trinity of Vegan activists: Earthling Ed, James Aspey and Joey Carbstrong.
Ha - EXACTLY right Richard =) Just three months vegan, Ed, Joey, James, Mic. and Derek have been my essential viewing and inspiration - 5 vegan superheroes with all bases covered (ethics, activism, health, environment), and just generally lovely humble guys....... must make it to my first pig save and anonymous for the voiceless event soon! Now..... for those pull ups! ;)
ecirprman he’s entertaining I don’t give a shit about all of that
I never thought the "Facebook group certified nutrition expert" line in my "When You Tell Average Joe That You Are Vegan... " animation would *actually* accurately describe a person. lol.
I've seen it and you are correct!
VegAnimation you're so right 😂😂😂
Aurora Borealis guess you told the average Joe... Rogan.
Listen to his podcast with Mind Pump
Even when I tought vegan was extreme, eating 100% meat would have blown my mind. NOW thats extreme
Why its how we ate 90% of humanity
@@stevenlindhorst7579 no it isn't. I dislike it when fellow vegans say we used to be herbivores, but we were also obviously not carnivores. Our biology is not similar to that of a carnivore at all
@@feddevandervorm4094 thats because it doesn't have to be we use tools to cut so we don't need sharp teeth or claws
@Heavy Shoe www.pnas.org/content/106/38/16034
@Heavy Shoe you are very confused read it again lol
"I'm really not that interested in it....tell me what blood test can tell me I'm healthy?"
That gem alone should be instructive as to why this person's medical license was yanked.
it was reinstated and his bloodworks were done and showed excellent results and zero plaque buildup in arteries after 15 months or so on strictly carnivore protocol kek
@@prodbynolsey8900 Excellent results? He had sky high cholesterol and testosterone levels of a 100 year old man.
@@ludwigwinter6795 I dont think you know how cholesterol works or what the readings actually mean.
His lipids were as follows -
Total Cholesterol: 192
LDL-C: 141
HDL-C: 40
Triglycerides: 54
To make actual sense of this you need to look at the data in the context of how the body functions with zero carb intake. It is ignorant too suggest that the body behaves the same way independent of its primary fuel source. Here is a great video to watch by Dave Feldman who explains further how cholesterol readings should be read in the context of diets differing to the traditional Standard American Diet. th-cam.com/video/uVcYzc5O_mg/w-d-xo.html
@@prodbynolsey8900 I'm not going to start a discussion about cholesterol with you. But you conveniently forgot about his testosterone levels. Oh, and he is also prediabetic.
Isnt the point of responding to have a discussion? And the testosterone thing was too funny to me to comment on, have you seen that man. He has been an all natural athlete his whole life and is extremely fit, holding, scratch that, breaking world records in rowing in his 50's. Why do you want him too be wrong so badly? Are all vegans this starved of critical thinking skills or do you just blindly listen to everything your doctors tell you. Because Doctors promoted smoking as healthy not too long ago.
Been vegan for a couple of months now, I can never truly go back to eating meat. I always feel 100x better on plant based diet
Lumen Sage yeah lets all go vegan and rely on fossil fuel burning planes, trains, and trucks to bring all your food to you because climate regions aren't conducive to growing a wide enough variety for proper nutrition and because you're more than likely not knowledgeable enough to grow your own especially if you want it organic
So proud of you Lumen!
Yeah, I'm not vegan but I go through stretches of times, few days, weeks when I eat plant based, and I always feel like shit when I go off it.
GasconTheGreat
Even the most flawed vegan diet is leaps and bounds better than the standard American diet with regards to health and impact upon the enviroment.
GasconTheGreat
Agree with you on many points, but I can't imagine a diet of mostly animal and insect meat would be healthier than one compromised mainly of roots, shoots, and berries.
That said, I'm absolutely on board with wanting to move away from factory farming and the era of big pharma keeping us sick, dumb, and miserable.
[Edit] I see you were making an argument for sustainable food rather than health with regards to eating insects. My fault for misinterpreting.
Been a Vegan 4 years. Best Diet Decision I ever made
Now 5 years
Odds are hes not now
Hahahahahah , bunch of retards think they are saving the world going vegan
original omnivore here
eat sunlight it's good
@@AkulaSriRahul That's not very nice, what have omnivores done to you?
I tried carnivore twice. ( yeah, I know ) and had bad constipation. I always avoided trying Veganism because I thought the plant oxalates were the reason for my 6 kidney stones. Now I find out that Veganism can actually help avoid kidney stones. Though I will still avoid the plants with the highest amounts of oxalates by finding alternatives. Thanks Mic for encouraging me to try plant foods.
Were you constipated, or just going less often? I did carnivore for a month for elimination purposes and still do a heavily meat-based diet. I still only poop about once a week, and it's not that much. It's a very low waste diet. When you're doing carnivore, everything that you're eating is highly bioavailable. When you're eating plants, your body has to expel much more excrement because so much of it is useless. If you are legitimately constipated, you can supplement magnesium citrate.
@@Maddyline1998 I don't know who told you this rubbish but it isn't healthy to not be pooping at least once a day. Madness.
@@thatvegandevil2113 Eating plant-based made me poop only once every three days, and the bowel movements would come on suddenly but urgently, accompanied by painful abdominal cramps. The stool would always start out hard and end in diarrhea and would take 20+ minutes to pass. I was also plagued with constant bloating and gas. But, please, tell me more about how that was healthier for me than my current way of eating, with which I am never bloated and my stool is always a solid, smooth consistency and takes less than 5 minutes to pass.
@@Maddyline1998 that wasn't plants that sounds like a medical condition you probably should have sought help for. Pooping less than once a day is incredibly bad for your gut it holds all the toxins from the meat you consume and believe me there is plenty. The effect meat has on the gut microbiome is bad enough as it is without the fiber needed to push it all through. I feel sorry for your colon.
@@thatvegandevil2113 "That wasn't plants." Yes, it was and it still is. I have tried reintroducing several plant foods that I can't digest. I can't eat any high-FODMAP foods which covers a wide array of produce. I also can't eat legumes, pineapple, soy, or guar gum. They all give me abdominal cramps and diarrhea. There are very few plant foods I can eat that don't upset my digestion (e.g. avocado, tomato, winter squash, coconut), and I wouldn't be able to meet my nutritional needs eating only from that narrow group of foods.
"Toxins from the meat" No, sorry, I don't believe you. I have done my own research as well. I am eating grass-finished beef from a farm within an hour of where I live, and it doesn't upset my digestion nearly as much as eating plant-based. I also feel much better thriving off of meat and eggs. I am never bloated, even right after a meal, and have a much easier time working out. I can also fast easily if I need to.
Mics beard has been shown to reverse heart disease
and his hair reverses it again
arnemyggen but it gave me cancer
That should work for ED then 🙂
Vit C, Vit E etc. He must be taking supplements. He's on course to crash sooner or later.
Yeah, i'm not buying it is a 100% meat diet.
Yes, just a few pills, would be in his own interest to last as long as possible promoting his silly corpses-only-diet.
how about do some fucking research? there are people who have been on this diet for 10+ years. theres no reason he would be lying. hes even said hes tried so many other diets and none of them worked for him. hes said he feels the best hes ever felt
Damon: Vegans don't want to know what they don't want to know! One indication that a belief is based on faith is that every time the prevailing argument - that it must be true - is shown to be false, a new one is found to replace it.
You need vit c for using glucose/carbs. Reduced to no carbs means giant reduction in vit c needs. Also glucose and vit c fight for the same receptors so its a feedback loop of sorts.
Can't believe he didn't do lab work...interesting! Thanks Mic.
How times have changed
@@bh5817 what
lmao bro this is hilarious. you support carnivore now
“It is also interesting to note that one of the reasons that the Masai have such a high neonatal mortality rate is exactly because of their beliefs about a healthy diet: Masai women eat less food during pregnancy because they want smaller babies.”
He clearly explains the revoking of his license in great detail in the Joe Rogan podcast!
This shows how people can be aggresive while promoting the vegan propaganda.
Obviously, the vegan nonsense is good for big corporations who make profit but not for your health and not for our planet...
@@btudrus the complete opposite is true in fact. Keep deluding yourself just for a bacon sandwich.
@@hocusfocus5195 No, you are wrong big corporations like Kellog, Nestle, Danone, Bayer (with Monsanto) or Pfizer are pushing this vegan nonsense because they know that only if enough stupid idiots will go vegan, they could make enough money.
The truth is that the vegan diet is detrimental to your health and will kill you.
It is also bad for the climate and the nature so if you are eating vegan, you are doing bad to the future generations...
"Bacon sandwich" - hahaha, but sorry, I don't eat any sandwich, wheat is just a poison as any other "plant-based" shit...
@@btudrus Why would companies that use diary, push for veganism? I'm not being sarcastic I truly want to understand your point.
@@sophia8482 Those companies don't care about diary. They care about their profit. And they know they can profit more with vegan food, because it is simply more efficient to produce industrialy "food" on a large industrial scale from plants than from animals.
They know also, that not all people will become vegans anyway, so .
And I'm sure their biggest motivation for pushing the vegan diet is to conceal their own role in the climate change.
This especially is true for the fertilizers industry (Bayer/Monsanto for example) who share their interests with the food industry.
See e.g. this: th-cam.com/video/GNRo-IbQ1Jo/w-d-xo.html
LMAO, no blood test can tell him he is healthy. Hahaha
Fantastic video, i have too say i tried atkins (1 time did 2 months it wasn't bad...but i eat a lot of fruits & veggies the 2nd time 2 weeks of nothing but meat i felt sick...i was shakey, until i eat a mashed potatoe sandwhich. Been vegan 6 months...NEVER FELT BETTER!!
You don’t just eat meat. You eat fatty meat. $1000 days you ain’t Lean meat like 99% Turkey
I tried this way of eating just for the hell of it. 5 weeks in I had my blood markers done twice. Cholesterol was up more than double from the previous time I checked my blood. Stopped the diet immediately. A month later my cholesterol was back to normal.
The total cholesterol, LDL and HDL numbers mean nothing. You can be sick with "good" numbers and you can be healthy with "bad" numbers. You need to measure the particle size and number. This can be done with NMR or chromatography. Search terms are "LDL Particle Testing", "NMR LipoProfile", or "Lipoprint Lipoprotein Subfractions Testing System". If you have too much small dense LDL that is a problem. But the bigger ones are fine. And even the small dense ones are not the problem but the consequence of a problem, inflammation and insulin resistance from too much carbohydrates.
Yes the diet raises your cholesterol. That’s kind of the point…
It's amazing how many people don't believe in facts. Seeing someone eat meat is almost confusing as see someone smoking. You know how bad it is for you, yet you do it anyway. You'll regret it when the time comes, which I hope isn't too late.
Thaaaaaaanks Mic!!!!! This is dope. Your patience is rad.
Debunking his pseudoscience is like a walk in the park for you... The one thing I wish you and all other vegans would move towards, is talking more (I know you already do this sometimes) about "eating animals" vs. "eating meat". Why?:
1) The dictionary definition of meat already included plant-based foods for hundreds of years before Beyond Meat was invented, so talking about vegan meats, and even pushing the concept that "Vegans Eat Meat" (happens to be the name of a music video I made in the summer as well ;) just like we always tell people that vegans eat pizza, ice cream etc., would be way more effective in my opinion at making animal eaters open minded to trying the cruelty-free lifestyle than telling people to stop eating all of their favorite foods, "meat is murder" etc.
2) It's not fair to the animals themselves to reduce their dead bodies to a food group (which includes vegan meats anyways) and talking about a "cow burger" "cow ice cream" vs. "coconut ice cream" etc. would go a long way towards reminding people they're eating the dead bodies and gross fluids of abused animals, if we start being mindful to include this in our everyday speech. At the moment a lot of people think vegan meats and cheeses are gross and that's backwards AF.
Language is a powerful tool, and even if this small (or perhaps revolutionary) linguistic change accelerated the vegan revolution by even 1% that would lead to billions of innocent lives being saved over the long term, and would also make a massive difference in terms of combatting the climate/mass extinction crises.
Anyways, massive respect for your work nonetheless, props from NYC.
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Agree 100% . We all need to be more intentional with the way we speak...
Truth!
Beyond Meat burgers are f&^#$&*ing incredible
So true.
Perhaps the word 'flesh' - which has a somewhat cannibalistic sonority - could an overall substitute.
Is the fruit diet or frugivore the diet humans are "supposed to" adapt. Many people who are raw and only eat fruit say that. Can you make a video on it and your opinions. Maybe state the pros and cons and the misconceptions I guess.
Mizz FlaireBeauty Nutritionfacts.org has a pretty good video,to summarize it our body is best suited for fruit,seeds(including nuts) and foliage.Fruit is obviously vital to health but we won't thrive of a fruitarian diet alone,we need at least some vegetables and grains.
he's already made one. check out his raw vegans video
Some grains/veggies can't be eaten raw (rice, potatoes, beans, wheat, etc.) Cooking them makes them digestible, and they do provide important nutrients like B vitamins, calcium, and iron. Cooking also increases nutritional value of some foods like carrots, asparagus, and tomatoes (though it's advised to steam or cook them for a short amount of time).
Check out John McDougall and the Starch Solution.
Aurora Borealis
Just for the sake of clarity, canines have absolutely no saying as to how much an animal is designed to eat meat. There are actual herbivores with large canines like saber toothed deer for example. So i would say bringing up canines either way is a very weak aspect to prove or disprove optimal diet.
Also you seem to be appealing to nature a lot in your comment so be wary of that in case you end up debating carnists.
My doctors put me on a diet that was a nearly vegan almost meat free diet. I followed it religiously for 2 years. I almost died from the severe inflammations in my joints and the random cystic growths I suffered from with severe psoriasis, catastrophically destructive psoriatic arthritis, IBS and a few other issues. I was bedridden and addicted to opiates that had to be prescribed so I could just barely function. Not a good combination for s single parent.
Then I switched to a ketogenic diet and guess what? I started to get better. I started to be able to move and the issues that had brought me literally to the brink of death started to alleviate. My ldl/hdl levels are "perfect" my O2 levels are elevated, my blood pressure is 118/81 and I can now sleep more than 2-3 hours a night. My reliance on the opioids has been diminished to almost zero and my Drs and I will be implementing a full removal program from all opiates starting next month. I am consuming in excess of 2000 cal/day and very, very little is plant based. I've also lost a significant amount of weight with the dietary change.
Is this decisive proof that meat based diets are for everyone? Absolutely not. Is your claim that there is no need for animal tissue consumption universally true? Absolutely not.
You need to get past your ideology and look at things from a realistic and non-dogmatic perspective. Sometimes a meat based diet is what a person needs as opposed to a plant based diet. This is just basic fact.
Not all diets are right for all people and the "morality" issue you raise is both wrongheaded and deeply offensive to those of us who come from cultures which subsist on greater meat consumption through hunting and fishing. You owe those people an apology for such a juvenile and judgemental statement based in nothing but your "opinion" as opposed to thousands of years of cultural history.
You are well entitled to your opinion but you diminish your own credibility with such blatantly ignorant statements.
No, you DON'T know this and to say so is simply childish.
Been vegan for 1 month now, your videos are so good and they keep me on the good track, thanks for the good work :D
keep it up and convert over to whole foods. I guarantee you will feel much better. Lot's of variety, no processed garbage!
I'm not even vegan but I love how people wanna dislike and talk crap about this video, with 0 facts or evidence against it. You waste more resources by farming meat than you do vegetables. How is that even debatable? Then the carnivores listened to Dr. Baker's lecture on how wrong epidemiological studies are.... and then cite epidemiology for carnivores. Funny how that logic works out.
0 × 3 =
*still zero*
So his a doctor in the same way the that guy from Alex Jones went to MIT just because he took a single how to class at MIT that was not pat of any MIT curriculum.
There must be 1.6K meat and dairy paid shills who watched this.
He sounds like he's dying.. seriously.
$50 A MONTH?! Just to have some guy tell me to only eat meat?! 🤣
Baker lost license because of incompetence, and not reporting the other adverse action, not the action itself. ...."Shawn Baker, MD - License no. MD2006-0659 - Stipulation and Order
for Voluntary Surrender of License and Permanent Restriction on Reapplication
was issued accepting Dr. Baker’s voluntary and permanent surrender of license
stating that he may not petition the Board for reinstatement, renewal, restoration
or reapplication for any license to practice medicine in NM without first proving
clinical skills competency. This action was based on failure to report adverse
action taken by a healthcare entity and incompetence to practice as a licensee.
(September 2017)"
Think that this guy is so fringe that most meat eaters would disagree with him, unless they really have an agenda to push....
Let's Do Better Now absolutely. Think that this dude is simply crazy.....
A few years ago I lived on a fully vegan diet for about two years and my pain and inflammation went through the roof (I am 55 with Rheumatoid Arthritis diagnosed in my thirties). I went back to eating a 'normal' UK diet after my gallbladder was removed and my RA got gradually worse. I was put on Tramadol, Nortriptylene, Naproxen, Methrotrexate and Hyroxychlorine none of which made a huge difference to the pain. I have now been on a Keto, nearly carnivore way of eating for nearly 8 weeks, within the first week my pain and inflammation was greatly reduced. I have since been able to reduce my pain meds by 2 thirds, I have more energy and my brain fog is gone. The evidence speaks for itself!!
You haven't even been on the diet long enough to make that claim. All of those drugs you are on though....
Just FYI, your personal story isn’t evidence, and a vegan diet isn’t necessarily healthy (a lot of junk food is vegan). We have no idea if you followed a whole food, plant based diet while being vegan. We also don’t know if you were getting enough nutrients, if you were drinking or doing drugs, if you had any other lifestyle triggers/variables, etc. Even if you stated that you followed Dr. Esselstyn’s diet to a T, we have no way to determine the accuracy of your claim (you need an objective observer). EVIDENCE is obtained through scientific research and controlled study. I’m not saying whole food veganism is perfect for everyone, but please don’t use the term “evidence” to describe how great the keto and carnivore diets are (not unless you have some actual evidence). It’s dangerous to insinuate keto/carnivore diets are safe.
Cholesterol on its own is not an indicator of overall health. It has to be high along with other health markers in order to indicate a problem.
His voice is terrifying.
Dude you have convinced me. I am going to do my keto diet the vegan way. 😉😎
The medical community is very punitive and they do not allow dissent. Why don't most providers tell you to change your diet? I am a provider and you get in trouble for asking questions. I was fired from a job because "you ask too many questions. "
Knew this one was coming lol.
I really hope joe gets Neal Barnard or Michael Gregor on his podcast.
Before that happens, the sky will turn green and the grass blue.
Lol, probably. Idk if enough people asked im sure theyd do it. Joe is usually pretty open to having both sides of topics discussed, even though hes really anti vegan it seems, lmao
Deathless Zero, I’m sure he would have him on if there were enough people asking. But Joe isn’t really anti vegan, he just knows that being a vegan isn’t the easiest or most healthy diet.
Ur Nan a whole foods plant based doet is the only diet proven to prevent / help a lot of common diseases
Fiber helps with regularity. Metamucil
Fiber cant be digested by humans therefore you crap it out. Seems like a waste. It's better to let the cows digest the fiber for you and the take it from their meat. Meat is more digestible for humans and we can get the necessary nutrients from it easier than plants. You can survive on just plants because humans are highly adaptable and extremely resilient, but it is not the optimal way to get nutrients.
@@numberone2836 And turkeys have stones in their stomach, but it helps them.
@@Humuncules but the thing is we don't need fiber to digest our food. Plenty of people don't eat fiber, including myself, and my digestion is fine. Also improved from a standard diet.
@@numberone2836 You know there are people who only eat potatoes and have improved their health with it?
@@Humuncules I don't doubt it. Although potatoes alone are not sustainable. I'm not saying fiber will kill you, it just isn't necessary for health.
I went carnivore a year ago and I lost tons of weight, my teeth and gums are great, cured my GERD, sleep like a baby and have tons of energy and mental clarity. If you've never tried keto or fasting you'll never know my vegan friends. You can laugh at us all you want we're doing great.
@Dylan Boag Yeah. I've started fasting 24-72 hours and then eating mostly meat. Seems to work fine. Can't even remember how it feels like to have acid reflux or stomach ache.
Vegan destroyed my Dad's health and wrecked his diabetes. I eat meat and am in Keto, my blood sugar hasn't gone above 82ml/dL, unless I workout. We my family are allergic to so many foods and veggies. What works for you is for you, what works for others is different. Each person has a unique chemistry and different need. Yes veggies can hurt you, root veggies fuck me and my dad up. Allergies and intolerance...
It's as if they are afraid that using logic and serious studies to support their current position might lead them to a conclusion they don't want so they just go full bananas.
Exactly. They don’t seem to understand that animals eat the same plants they are sitting here trashing and then we eat their meat. 😂
Vegan squaaaaad
Love the name!
I love veggies but I’m one month in on the carnivore diet. If it grunts, chirps or swims, it’s on my plate and I feel great!
All those studies..... and how many were done where it was strict vegans against strict carnivore. You can't quite studies that don't compare properly
Lots of body builders die young. Typical reasons include enlarged heart, and kidney failure.
I suspect it has more to do with steroid abuse than anything else.
"Your back started hurting from eating apples?" haha
After 3 months of doing an animal protein diet (gras-feed beef, lamb, game meat, pastured raised eggs, pastured raised chicken, raw milk, kefir, yoghurt, butter, ghee), my cholesterol went up to 220. I continued the diet for 18 months, and last week my cholesterol was 130...go figure.
Now, I decided to stop the diet and maybe have meat once every 2 weeks or so. Anyway, I just wanted to see if cholesterol would stay high in the long-term with an animal protein diet.
I’m not arguing for either side. Have been on carnivore diet for the last few months and have lost 49 pounds so far. Feel great, look great, skin is clear, no cramps. Blood work looks great too. I don’t care about all of these youtuber n stuff promoting it. Just eat all types of meat and don’t stick to just beef.
You did it again Mic!!! Good job!!!
wasn't that hard xD
OK great vid as always, but I love that House Vegan T-shirt! Where di I get it?
He talked about it at the end of the vid
The high meat isn't 100 gram of meat a day. An american eats arouns 132 pound of meat a year (2012, excluding vegetarians so statistics with meat eaters), which is 59 kilo or 59.000 gram. 59.000/365days= 160 grams a day.
It's both sad and hysterical that some people actually think eat dead bodies all days is the key to health.
If people actually felt good and healthy being a vegan, then more people would do it.
People are afraid of being different, has nothing to do with the diet
Yeah, cause we’re all slowly dying. 🙄 I’ve personally never felt better.
When i first tried the zero carb diet a decade ago, peeps were referencing Stefansson, the Arctic explorer from the early 1900s. Dont hear about him much with this current carnivore craze. He had great things to say about the inuit, including health, teeth, positive demeanor and decent lifespan.
Oh wow.. there's me 5 years ago
Diverticulitis looks like a very uncomfortable condition!
Why are vegans so insufferably obnoxious about any diet other than their own?
They're not, it's just that meat eaters are easily triggered.
If animals weren't meant to be eaten, why are they made out of food?
Grizzle Drizzle Humans are technically considered animals, so you're saying animals are made out of food?? Lmao! 😅😂 WOW! You can't be serious, right??
Man BIG thanks from Austria for this video. I hate how these people make you unsure with their eloquent broscience.
"eloquent broscience", that's actually such a good phrase. Lol I'm gonna use it
I think I might try this carnivore diet. I viewed this video to see the diet debunked but I didn't really see that happen. I read a lot of good things about it and was just waiting a little longer for the verdict. Seams worth a shot. There are a lot of vegans making the switch.
I’ve seen so many more people with life hanging health stories from going carnivore. I tried to transition to being vegan and developed hyperthyroidism and then went pescatarian, only to make my gut health worse than it already was which created a barrage of health problems. Recently I’ve been more meat heavy to heal my gut and my skin and mental/physical fatigue is so much better. I’m thinking about making the full transition to carnivore just to see how I feel. This weasel is just smarmy as shit and doesn’t take into account that everyone’s bodies are different. Some people may do great on vegan diets, but I sure as hell can’t!
This guy is a clown and tried to draw BS conclusions from the studies he listed as "debunking." That was the most cringe video I have seen in a long time. He just doesn't like that poor wittle aminals are dying.
I only want to try carnivore because maybe it will help with some of my inflammation and digestion issues but I'm skeptical and it sounds awful. But clearly what I'm eating now is not working. I have a lot of trouble digesting many types of plant matter. I'd want to hunt a lot on carnivore so I'm sure to get the best quality of meat. Vitamin C is easy enough to supplement...
The carnivore/raw carnivore diet is amazing. I am curing Multiple Sclerosis with it. I have been a sugar, oil & starch addicted vegan for the past 19 months and I had no good results. Every & all studies are swayed and not completely unbiased. Every study can be argued.
I know it sounds crazy, however, there is something to this all meat diet. I eat a raw plant based diet and thinking about just eating meat makes me cringe, but there are too many people that swear by it to just dismiss it. Who knows about the long term effects, however, the short term effects are very interesting to say the least.
See, an onesided diet is never good, dont matter herbivore or carnivore, we are omnivore. Maybe take a close look at asprey or look at what natasha Campbell has to say...
@@jari4994 Well vegans live longer on average, so why does it matter what we did in the past if there's a better alternative out there?
And they say a vegan diet is ‘too extreme’?! This makes me so upset! Our poor planet and all of these poor animals... humans are just the worst sometimes
At 3:54 “Meat-eater” is NOT the same as a person on the “carnivore diet”, that is misleading information. Thanks for the video!
im not saying your wrong but you got to be more responsible. he never say its vegetables that cause joint pain. you even fast forward the other things he said could cause it. he said he dont know why he just pretty sure it aint meat. He explain the license too. i dont have no horse in this race.
I am sooo tired of hearing about the "carnivore diet!!"
UUUUGGHH
Sooo disgusting!!! 👿
Are you writing scientific articles? Your research is pretty consistent and I think science would benefit if you made your videos into actual articles. Actually, it would be a perfect subject for philosophy of science / methodology / philosophy of culture
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Paweł check out some of the new episodes of #WorstOfTheFoodIndustry for that kind of social commentary
Paweł Mic is scientifically illiterate, and almost never actually knows what he's talking about. He thinks a trip to pubmed for links to associational studies constitutes the height of scientific investigation. People in hard science would facepalm at the way Mic defends his claims. I think a proposal such as yours would hurt the scientific process more than it would help it.
How does this guy poop though???
Probably taking laxatives or drinking lots of coffee...
if you did some fucking research you'd find he doesn't do any of those things and his digestive system is fine
Additionally if you're not eating more food than you can digest well you'll poop less. I've found that I spend a lot less time on the toilet while eating smaller, healthier meals
Pooping 12 times a day does not make you healthy.
Once in a year solid rocks lol
I've never talked about something that I've never done myself. I'm doing carnivore diet, you need to eat fishes. I did the beef for 1 week, my hb and ldl went up beyond belief. The only reason why people could improve their health on carnivore diet, their previous health was trashed due to extremely bad diet, cokes, fries ice cream. If you get rid of those, of course you're going to improve. But in the long run carnivore diet can not be better than vegan or seafood heavy diet.
Primal diet nigga
I love how you called out his MD status. Please, can you keep up the videos, or take a break and work on a documentary. Regards Everyone watching.
I went full carnivore over 3 months ago and it's awesome. I feel so much better. Every meal is awesome.
Welp. It was nice knowin' ya.
I feel like almost none of the other commenters have watched the Joe Rogan interview. It explains why he lost his license and it really has very little to do with his diet as you alluded to. The best thing that I can say about this video is that you are a well informed and well read individual on your side of the fence. I have dipped my toe into many different types of diet and anecdotes and studies. And the one thing that I can find is that you have to find a relationship with your diet that matches you and your body. Some people can function perfectly on a ketogenic diet, even a vegan one, and others couldn't last a week. And the reverse is true.
Side note: you mentioned that the majority of cautions for cooking food are with meat. I personally can eat most meat nearly raw and have no adverse effects. So I take that and raise you allergies. The majority of the allergies and food sensitivity that people experience are stemming from plant sources. I take this in the light that, again, we must find the individual diet for our body. There is no "one size fits all" solution.
And yes, I have been aware that vegans are in a lower trophic (I believe I spelled that right. Feel free to correct me) level than carnivores. But unless you grow all your own foods and/or use a farmer's market, you are still contributing more than you should to carbon emissions. I also realize that the same can be said for meat, but its more a point of where you are going to take your share of the blame, not how. We are all equally guilty of doing damage.
I am still in the process of finding my ideal diet for me, but I love to play devils advocate because it encourages people to stop and think about all the moving parts, not just the ones that are easy to see. I would love to talk to Mic and discuss things because I feel we would both be better for it. If that's alright with you.
Thank you and good luck.
I love watching your videos! Been vegan for about 9 months now and you’ve really helped me open others’ eyes and I even got my sister to go vegan!! Keep it up!
@Andrew what nutritional problems...plants have all the nutrients you need ...no problem at all
@Andrew Well aren’t you brainwashed, plant-based diets have the most nutrition 🤣
@@FURYBrenton That is literally medically wrong lol
@@biohackingalchemy7996 No, it isn’t. Do some research bro.
@@FURYBrenton I have researched, thats WHY i said it. I have seen actual science, nih, pubmed. Its quite simple actually if you just read it.
this channel gives me hope in humanity. nothing but science.
On the carnivore diet right now and it’s amazing!
all these people disliking this video clearly haven't listened to what he was saying...
a logical person would absolutely loose every believe in the carnivour diet after this video!
So I need your help, Mic and all of you lovely people in this community. My grandmother is really old and recently she has gotten even more and more tired and her bones are very weak so every time she goes out she could slip and break a bone because it's winter rn. I've tried to tell her about how milk makes your bomes even weaker and animal products makes you get dangerous diseases but she says that she thinks that the studies in talking about are sponsored and that you need to eat meat. She's talking about the war and how it was very important that you drank milk and eat meat to survive because they were already starving here in Sweden. Please help me convince her before it's too late. My other grandmother has already died of cancer and I didn't find out about veganism before she died. If something happens to my other grandmother and I knew a way that could have saved her I'm not gonna be able to live with myself. We've always been really close and she's like my best friend. Please help I appreciate every single word🙏🏼
Maybe you could tell her that her current way is clearly not working so she has nothing to lose in at least trying veganism out?
Processed Vegan Products don't think is that good for health compared to Raw Whole food plant based. As there is more processing in it.
What strikes me as suspicious about THIS video though is the minimizing of reports from carnivores. We're not talking about mere improvements in health. We're talking about people reversing diabetes and arthritis. I'm not a huge advocate either way, but an objective analysis of the diet would AT LEAST acknowledge how dramatic a lot of the results have been.
Well done man! You’re always going to have idiots leaving rude comments because they want to justify their bad behavior. Killing animals isn’t right. Especially as many as we do as humans.
That dude sounds like he is 100 years old 😂 amazing video Mic!
Not all plants ate healthy. It depent on what microbiota you have.
I have a question for you regarding veganism. If the world stopped eating animals, what would you do with all the cows, sheep, pig's and chickens etc?
Why doesn't he have scurvy? If he hasn't eaten any fruits or vegetables for over a year, he must get scurvy. According to NHS choices you get scurvy if you haven't had vitamin C for three months or more. He must be taking supplements.
Dude, you're still with the old nutrition nonsense. Wake up! I was a vegan for years and listened to everything we're usually told about the benefits of being a vegan. One day i decided to tried a keto diet......I will never go back to be a vegan. What a difference! I'm actually thinking of trying the carnivore diet. Believe me, most of the stuff you talk about and take for granted is nonsense that some ignorant doctors have been dictating to society. After all, there are so many studies that contradict most everything you say. So, it's what works for you - not what you're told. Be open minded.
dontaskme But his snarky mocking style is soooo Damn convincing. I wish I could be as moral as him and ditch my KETO style diet which has allowed me to drop 50 lbs, have few food cravings and reduce my inflammation to the point where within 1 week my chronic knee pain went away completely.
Man, If you keep speaking this way to vegans the vegan God's they might gain up and out you. TH-cam and google can you quick if you piss them off too much.
I was never told to go vegan, but I did. And I love it.
You Obviously havnt suffered with gut problems ie bloating , heartburn etc .... Ive suffered for 20 years feeling like shit. I thought i had a great diet eating very healthily but was very wrong ..Ive been on the carnivore diet for 3 months now and all my gut problems have completely disappeared.
My psoriasis has nearly gone , feel absolutely amazing , have loads of energy.
You really need to appreciate the problems a lot of people suffer from because they are eating certain vegetables. You are simply very wrong
I lost 20lb in 3 weeks with meat eggs no sugar or carbs no fruits
*crickets*
I've been dropping the fact on my zero carb diet, too. No plants. They do a number on me these days.
did you do your research? then you know that most of that is water weight.......when you stop ingesting carbs you pee all the water right out your body with ever molecule of glycogen in the body their are 3 water molecules, so when you stop ingesting carbs you use up all the glycogen stored in the model, thereby removing all the water with it. did you just start this with no research? that would be bad.
i am also on the keto diet, so i know this and almost every keto you tuber out there informs their followers that you will loose a lot of weight very quickly in the beginning because you are dropping a significant amount of water......um so this just seems like a really dumb comment.
and in order to loose weight in a healthy way for the body, you don't want to be loosing more than 5-10 pounds a month so that the body can get used to that fat no longer being there in a healthy way. you did not put on all that weight in a month or two, loosing weight very fast is devastating to the body, the metabolism and the skin. the skin especially needs time to adjust and tighten back up with the loss of weight.
but loosing all that weight after beginning a keto/no carb diet is like DUH BRUH, you lost a s**t ton of water weight and the moment you begin eating a balanced diet again, the water weight will come back.
its just like the people who claim to cure diabetes with a keto diet, no you didn't cure anything, you are just avoiding having to take insulin (for a type 1), or avoiding actually healing and having your body learn how to take care of insulin by avoiding insulin spikes (type 2) by eating no/low carbs. but the second they stop the low carb/keto diet, the diabetes will come back. they didn't cure anything, they're just avoiding it. which i can see the allure for a type 1 diabetic, but a type 2 diabetic should cure their diabetes the "correct" way.
nothing special about you loosing 20 pounds in 3 weeks on low carb/keto. happens to everyone. it is temporary. hopefully you are supplementing with electrolytes (magnesium, potassium, and sodium) because along with loosing all that water weight your body also drops all of it's stored electrolytes which the body require. since you either haven't done any research or are just being a douche nozzle, if you do not supplement these electrolytes you body will begin to have muscle cramps, headaches, dizziness, fainting, loss of thyroid function, inability sleep, unbalanced hormones, loss of water regulation, stingy skin, drying skin, chronic dehydration and the list goes on and they get much worse the longer you go without supplementing the electrolytes.
these carnitards really should talk about supplementing more.
i love being on keto and the keto world on you tube does talk about supplementing appropriately and maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle, but these carnitards man..... they're so f**king stupid. "nope all you need is meat, you don't have to supplement and you don't even have to eat organ meat or even a variety of meat. all you have to eat is just this rib eye steak here and you will be fine. you'll get everything you need and won't have to worry about a thing. put a little salt on there, if your going to cook it, cook it in some tallow. bang. everything you need. it's fine. you'll be fine. its. just. finnnneeeeee."
please do your research and do keto/low carb/carnivore in a healthy way. you can't just eat muscle meat and be fine, just like a fruitarian diet or any other extreme unbalanced fad diet, you got to make sure you are DOING IT RIGHT (because you know everyone gets triggered when you say, they weren't doing it right. because well, they're not doing it right and about 80% of the people in the world aren't doing the diet RIGHT!).
and yes
i do a whole foods plant based keto diet. i
I'd like Mic, Vegan Gains, and other Vegan proponents form the Vegan community to challenge Shawn Baker on his recent videos as of 2018. He's fairly active on social media and his TH-cam channel. When I see the sheer amount of people who call themselves part of the "Tribe" and are following his carnivore diet wholeheartedly I hate to say it but I begin to question my dietary choices. There's so much misinformation and one thing iv'e noticed is that people just like to follow whatever group they identify with the most without much thought. I've done the research myself, looked at both sides, and my conclusions are that being a whole-foods plant-based vegan is the best diet I could possibly follow (as i'm officially now vegan), but still I question the reach he has with his arguments. There're very little rebuttals to his videos so they pretty much stand unchallenged since 2018. I just wish there were more rebuttals so everyone can see both sides because it just doesn't make sense to me how eating absolutely nothing by meat is logical from a health and longevity standpoint. Great video mic.
Try meat :)
I am watching this as a new carnivore diet person. I could never do vegan myself as I just cant stomach the food alone. I do enjoy and like many vegetables but I just cant do only vegan. This did come into my feed and I knew it would be counter to my choice of diet but I watched it because I am willing to hear all sides. The issue is most people only want confirmation bias. Personally I am feeling much better on this carnivore diet, i had no serious issues but i am better. There have been people claiming to have been on this diet for up to 20 years, while i have no way to verify this i can only assume people are being honest.
The big difference between carnivore people and vegan people is that the carnivores do not claim any moral purpose behind their dietary choice, where as many vegans do. They both claim health benefits. Anything different than a standard American diet of processed foods is going to be an improvement. But for me carnivore works and I am willing to face possible health issues as all things have risks.
Also vegans, I know you are not eating the rabbits and the voles and insects, but many creatures also die for crop foods. Perhaps you feel those smaller creatures are insignificant, but death is inevitable if humans want to live.
Great video Mic, you nailed so many reasons not to go carnivore, wish I could convince my sibling. I tried 100 percent vegan for over a year but my gut could not tolerate all the beans, onions, and that high of an amount of fiber. I am now a vegetarian eating much fewer legumes and no onions and garlic. Am eating some wild caught salmon, egg whites, no dairy, every other day and since have much less bloating and no stomach pain. Everybody is a little different in what there body will tolerate. Just added in tempeh, and tofu this month. The low fodmap diet fixed my issues in helping chose what veggies and fruits to limit or eliminate. Love your videos, so informative.
Maybe you should listen to your sibling
See my meat comes from a farm near my hometown... The cows are on the pasture all year. Get slaughered in the same town they grow up in and walk to the slaughterhouse... what do you think is the co2 footprint of that ;) cow breath + the vets ride to the slaugtherhouse?
Joe Rogan eats elk and jalapeños, it seems as a majority of his diet (titled, healthy as fuck). This video is the perfect example of people loving good news about their bad habits.
Wish you had more subscribers.
Mr. Meitner I subscribed !
Mr. Meitner I’m happy this idiot doesn’t. He’s a self important animal loving idiot.
I actually felt ill seeing that raw steak and hearing them talk about whale blubber. 🤢🤮 I’ll stick with my chickpea “tuna” sandwich on seeded granary bread with lettuce, cucumber, and tomatoes, thanks.
I frankly don't believe that this guy has been eating but carcass for a prolonged period of time.
Also, where do y'all meat people get your kidneys from?
And yes the inuets did get minor amount of fibers
You're a tad bit arrogant. Also, wrong.
You're butt hurt, prolly from all meat hemorrhoids
Mic needs to try a 30 days carnivore challenge, then he could do a ponderate analysis.
His voice is just deep, it's not even raspy. And you say a lot for a guy with a high pitched nasal voice.
I was so mad when I saw the asap video especially because I’m a long time subscriber and I thought they were thorough
The fact his license was revoked was discovered by a Twitter group tackling this man. A PBN writer was informed, then all of TH-cam videos about him followed 😁