How to Check a Used Honda Civic (2016+) For Hidden Problems
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- Used Guide: Honda Civic (2016+)
Checks before you buy used
The latest-generation of Honda’s bread-and-butter compact is the tenth, and the latest Civic hit the road back in 2015, for model-year 2016. The latest Civic flaunted a few firsts, including the first use of a turbocharged engine in the lineup, as well as a laundry-list of advanced new safety equipment.
Key competitors to this Canadian-built favorite include the Kia Forte, Hyundai Elantra, Ford Focus, Mazda3, Toyota Corolla, Dodge Dart, and others. Sedan, coupe and hatchback models were available, and most owners say the Civic is roomier and more accommodating than you might thing from a mere glance.
Elsewhere, look for full smartphone connectivity with available wireless charging, heated seats and steering wheel, remote start, a sunroof, automatic lights and climate control, and more. Engines included a 2-litre four-cylinder or a punchy 1.5-litre turbo, the latter offering about 175 horsepower on regular-grade fuel.
Transmission choices included a six-speed manual or Continually Variable Transmission (CVT), which is the automatic transmission option.
Oil Dilution
Shoppers not dead-set on a Civic with the 1.5 litre turbo engine may be best to avoid it. Some owners have experienced well-documented problems caused in part by a situation in which engine oil and gasoline may mix inside of the engine, causing problems, a Check Engine Light, a strong gas odor near the vehicle, engine misfiring, and more. An over-full oil level reading on the dipstick is a great reason to avoid a model with the 1.5 litre engine. Frequent use of the vehicle in extreme cold, especially for typically-short drives, may exasperate the problem.
Honda has extended warranty coverage on parts of this engine, and many owners have noted no issue. The oil dilution dilemma appears to be ongoing at this writing. For best results, factor extended warranty coverage into the purchase price of a car with the 1.5-litre engine, or skip it.
Check the Condenser
The condenser is a part of a vehicle’s air conditioning system that requires a stream of cool outside air to pass through it. Usually it’s mounted in the lower air opening of a vehicle’s bumper-where some Civic owners say it seems curiously vulnerable to damage by rocks and other road debris.
Track down the condenser and look for signs of heavy damage and be sure to run the air conditioner through a workout on your test drive, being on the lookout for poor performance. Some owners have installed protective provisions, like screens or mesh, to help protect this pricey-to-replace component.
Multiple Warnings
You may not notice this rare problem on a test drive, but it’s worth noting: at any sign of difficulty or failure starting the engine, alongside the illumination of numerous warning and error lights, you’ll want to have the engine computer and battery checked over professionally. Often, the fix is a computer software re-flash, a new battery, or a re-calibration of one or more system sensors. Having this work performed in a dealer setting is best.
Trunk Leak
Remove all items from the trunk, as well as the cargo floor cover. You want to see bare metal beneath the Civic’s trunk, and check the area for signs of rust, mildew, or standing water. Some owners have reported a water leak in this area, that may stem from a defective weld around the trunk opening which should be easy to fix. If there’s a water leak like this, you’ll want to know before you buy.
The information presented above is gathered from online owner discussion groups and collaboration with a network of automotive repair professionals. The above information is not a comprehensive list of all possible issues with the vehicle in question and is instead intended to draw shopper attention to possible trouble spots they may wish to investigate before they buy. In most cases, problems listed above are reported with relative rarity in comparison to total sales volume. Shoppers are advised to have a dealer- performed pre-purchase inspection on the vehicle they’re considering for maximum peace of mind.
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As a 10th gen 2018 Civic EX-T owner (bought new June 2018 in Westchester County, NY), I can say that this is my favorite Civic model/year. However, the model I chose does not have any of the Honda sensing features...which is a good thing imo. I have over 86,000 miles of trouble-free ownership in just over three years. I’m averaging over 33 mpg with combined city/highway on its 1.5liter turbo CVT. No oil dilution issues whatsoever. No air conditioning problems. The rear and side view cameras work perfectly. No electronics issues.
I’m not a fan of the new 11th Civic so I plan on keeping mine for over 300,000 miles.
Update on the car?
I have a 2018 civic hatchback Ex and I absolutely adore the car. I put 10k miles on it in less than 6 months and I have loved every moment. Oil dilution is a thing but it doesn't seem to be a huge problem on my car. I just keep up with my oil changes. My advice is to learn how to do the basic fluid changes. The trans fluid needs to be changed every 25 to 30k miles and it is super easy to do. I did it a week ago and it took maybe 30 minutes(Way faster than a dealership). After a year of ownership I have ZERO regrets.
Same here love mine I bought it with 18k miles 8 months ago now have 39.5k 😬
I hear that they have headgasket problems? Specialy 1.5T
In Europe we didn't get any 2 liter, just the 1.5 and a 1.0 3 cylinder engine with a wet timing belt. It looks like that wet belt dipping in the oil not only reduces frictions and emissions, but also leaves residues in the oil that may clog the fine tube through which the oil goes up to lubricate the turbo, leading to blow-ups that can cost upwards of 20 grand to repair and of which Honda isn't taking care of. This as soon as 11000 miles!
2016 Ex-t no engine or transmission problems yet. I bought it brand new. Im sitting at 107,000 miles now.
Did you change the CVT fluid yet? If so at what mileage?
@@lefthanded5473 yeah the dealership did a transmission fluid flush and replace at I believe around 65,000 miles and a platinum spark plug change at 100,000 miles.
@@lefthanded5473 I however got really lucky with a decent dealer where I bought my car. The dealership offered a 250,000 mile warranty on the Engine and Transmission as long as you had all engine work like oil changes and Transmission services with them. You didn't have to pay any extra for the warranty they offered it with all the vehicles they sold back then. They no longer do that obviously, but since I bought the car back in 2016 when they were. I'm covered. I also got them to throw in 3 oil changes and tire rotations for free when I bought my car. That literally lasted me a year and a half almost. I only owe $5,000 on the car now almost payed off.
@@John34. shit bro that’s good to hear, glad that baby is almost paid off. Even if it isn’t you got a decent amount of equity in it. Also how much did it cost for the transmission fluid flush and spark plug change.
@@lefthanded5473 I'm not sure I would have to go look at my receipts and I will. I'll see if I can find em in a couple days and I can tell you exactly what I paid. I work night shift and am at work right now. Haha I will be for the next 2 nights. I think the Transmission fluid change and oil change and tire rotation cost me like $270. The spark plug was the pricey one, but that was the 100,000 mile maintenance. They even told me this was going to be the hard hitter. I remember it was like $520 for the whole thing like spark plugs and Oil change and tire rotation. Dealerships usually try to rip people off and I do other work myself thats not related to the engine or Transmission. Like if its brakes and rotors I'm taking it to someone else. Engine air filter and cabin Air filter I change myself. You can get the cabin air filter for less that $10 on amazon and change it yourself in 2 minutes and the dealer will try and charge you like $50 for it and $80 for the engine Airfilter. I have a 1,000,000 mile KN engine Airfilter. I clean and oil and change it myself. It says it does not void the engines warranty and I asked them and they said it was okay to use it.
Great video. Very professional and informative for me, as I’m test driving one today! A quick question though, not car related, what kind of sunglasses are those??? They look like they’d really work for me. Thank you.
Very valuable info for us Canadians thinking of buying a used Civic from this model year. Thanks for this well presented video!
Honda is going to hate this video! With that said, I am a Honda owner, bought a new 2018 Civic Hatchback LX 6speed manual, and, overall I can say that I'm fairly happy with my Civic 1.5 turbo - have 40,000 miles on it now. I do not have the oil dilution problem, thankfully, but I did have 3 different air conditioning parts replaced while still under warranty. The service technician at the Honda dealer told me that they have had many, many air conditioning problems with this 10th gen civic air conditioning system. It's not just rocks or pebbles hitting the condensor or compressor! He said it was a bunch of poorly made parts. My repair bills would have been well over $2,000 but, again, it was all covered under my original warranty. Other than that issue, I've been quite pleased. I like the 1.5 turbo - it has a great sporty feel when over 2500 rpms. I get very good gas mileage as well. I just hope it lasts many years, as I plan on taking care of it as well. Best of luck to all you Honda Civic folks!
does the 1l have similar problems if you know?
@@emiliospowerballer1441 you mean the 1Liter 3cyl EU only version?
@@cstrx11 yes
@@emiliospowerballer1441 I'm not sure but I would say it has the same problem. The 1.0 uses the same A/C coolant: R1234YF.
I quickly checked the Part NO of the A/C condenser and they are the same. The compressor is different for the 1.0, but it looks the same just with different mounting points because of the different engine. I hope this helped.
@@cstrx11 lastly, which if the 2 would you recommend? the 1l 3cyl 130hp or the 1.5l 4cyl 182hp? ty for ur insight
I just found out about this review. THANK YOU. I got a 17 civic with i bought in 2020. I just wanted an Accord stickshift but I didn't have enough to buy it privately. So I went to the dealership. I did not like the AC system on hot summer days. It's functionality was compromised by the ECO bottom as well as the acceleration. The clutch was hard and very uncomfortable if you do doordash on the daily but i just adjusted myself and it's much better now. I got the 2.0 which I change the oil every 5k miles religiously. It does deludes oil a bit. Nothing outrageous. It is slow. But with the fixed clutch and aftermarket short shifter and base bushings it makes up for a good car. And yeah the shifter in the LX model is sloppy as hell. The Bluetooth system wouldn't grab my phone back after i had to turn the bluetooth off but that's a dealer fix. The EXT 2.0 has a more solid shifter and good tech features. I'd have prefer the EXT. I certainly didn't even looked at the 1.5T. It really damaged the Civic image. I recently change the halogen low beam bulbs for LasFit led lights and it's so much better to drive at night.
I bought a Honda Civic 2018 1.6 i-DTEC sedan with 9 speed automatic with 26k km from a Honda dealer . It is very nice to drive and rather comfortable car. However, I do see some issues with the overall quality which is not really up to Honda standards, such as rubber seals around the doors keep coming off the doors, as they are holding on with just a rubber lip on metal. As I had it only for a few months, I didn't notice issues you mention.
Get the turbo and drive it hard. It helps it evaporate the gas out of the oil. Drive it in sport in cold climate till it warms up. In really cold just keep it in Sport.
Its funner to drive and very fuel efficient.
I have a 2016 Honda Civic Touring. Bought it back in 2019 it had 32,000. a week after buying the car my ac started acting up. It ended up being my condenser which was covered by a warranty. since that issue almost 4 years later the car been perfect just hit 58,000.
In Europe they also come with a 3 cyl 1.0 turbo, Warning to anyone looking at these check out the 75k 6 year timing belt service cost it will put you off considering one !
All these 3 cylinder engines like the Ford Ecoboost are a real pain to change the timing belt and really expensive.
I bought a 2018 Civic Touring trim at 809 miles. The first four months of 2020, that is when the oil dilution occured. Subsequently in middle of thr year, the locks became inoperable, leading me to manually do it. Finally, the alternator and part of fuses went out at the end of the year until March 2021 when I sold it. I finished it off at
That's craaaazzzy. Probably because whoever had it before you probably did something crazy to the car. Thats probably why they sold it.
I’ve had a 2016 Honda Civic Touring since July of 2016. I’ve had a few problems with the car, mainly the air conditioning system. After about a year I started to hear from inside the car what sounded like a belt slipping in the motor, both while driving and when stopped at intersections. I later opened the hood with the car running but couldn’t hear the same sound. After dealing with it for a month I took it into my dealer and they said it the air conditioning condenser had several leaks and they needed to change out the whole system. Flash forward about a year ago I got a letter from Honda stating that all factory installed systems were now covered for a full 10 years. The only other issue I had was with the entertainment system, more specifically the rear speakers rattling the truck at any volume over 14, I took the car into my dealer and they fixed it though I couldn’t see any visible changes to the area. I can now crank it all the way up to max volume with no rattles.
Same issues with mine, they changed the evaporator and I'm still hearing it
Just curious how much did you pay for the Touring out the door price? I was thinking about getting one back in 2016 but settled for the Ex-T. I love it. I just remember the touring being like $26,000 to $28,000.
Do 2018 hatchback models come with an engine cover ?
Haha 😂 glad I cheaped out and got an LX sedan, as it’s the only one that seems to have none of these issues in base form (except for maybe the ac thing) but mine blows cold 5 years later- zero issues at all really and the horsepower difference is not that drastic anyway.
hi, I have one of these 988 cc, white, manual, UK edition. I think my turbo not working car feels heavy and slow, what could be the cause.
Very well done video review.
i bought a civic 2016 ex with 0 light errors because the previus owner erased them. after a month a emissions "system problem appeared"! p422 valve stuck closed :(
Thanks for this. (Hopefully) getting a 2017 Black Civic 1.0 tomorrow so I’ll check. 👍👍
and I got it!
@@TonyKomaMusicSweden Congrats. I have plan to do the same. R u satisfied with the car. How about timing belt change, I heard that it has to be changed within 7 year or 75k miles.
@@zzzzz195 It’s a very nice car. The 1.0 rattles a bit tho. Belt needs to be changed every 120k kilometers I believe
@@TonyKomaMusicSweden thank you so much for the quick response. By ratle do you mean in city or in highway? I don't mind it in the city but in highway while normal driving I hope it would not do that. And also is the car silent in the highway. I dove a corolla CHR in highway and there was a very loud windy noise, is it the same with honda civic hatchback 2017. Thanks in advance.
@@zzzzz195 since its a 1.0 three cylinder, it ”rattles” when accelerating. Sounds weak 😂
Currently have a 240sx but want something jdm 4 reliable hows the manual drive?
There is no doubt in my mind that HONDA makes the best manual gear box on planet earth. I have the 2018 Civic Hatchback 1.5 turbo with a 6 speed gearbox - it shifts exceptionally smooth! - I think better than Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi, or any american made vehicle as well. I believe Honda makes their own manual transmissions while other car companies buy their manual transmissions from a Transmission company, I think.
2019 plus have the radio knob and oil dislusion problem is less reported. Don't do short drives, let her warm up. This only applies w the 1.5t.
Sp touring 6sp owner here and no mechanical issues, at 35kms, in Canada so we see snow.
How do you define 'short'?
@@Enanram if the engine isn't warmed up and u shut it off
I have a 2018 hatchback sport touring. I have had it for 2 1/2 years. The car has 37,400 miles. I have had some major issues. My master cylinder went out at 35,000 miles. The ac compressor & condenser went out at 35,000 miles as well and would of been around very close to $3,000 to fix. My lane keep assist always gets triggered by shadows from power lines. The dealership could not find the problem. So they told me to turn off lane keep assist. YES! THE DEALERSHIP TOLD ME TO TURN Off A SAFETY FEATURE. Also the brake assist comes on when a dark spot or pot hole is in the lane. The infotainment screen some times goes black. In addition to all that my driver seatbelt feels like its sticking. When i buckle the seatbelt it feels like it doesn't want to latch. When i try to take it off it feels like its stuck and doesn't want to release the belt. Even though i have had these issues i love my car. It drives just like my old 2013 bmw 328i. Never had major issues with my bmw. But the bmw was falling appat pretty fast. The light fixture was falling out of the bmw trunk and the panels on the inside were coming loose. And the fake crome was peeling off. Also my window switches became unstable and were sinking into the door panel of the driver side.
Do you really need the lane keep assist? In snowy conditions its useless lol
Extreme cold makes it worse, but all 1.5s have the dilution issue. I have a '21 and change the oil every 5k miles and it's just about due right now so I just checked the oil and yup, overfull, smells like gasoline. You won't catch this on a used car because they will change the oil.
The 2016-2021 Honda Civic has a 10 year extended warranty and unlimited miles on that AC condenser! So no worries
Good to know! Is that just in USA, or Canada too? I'll have to dig it up. Tks!
Dang I was just about to buy a 2017 Touring 1.5 turbo
Honda Civic is the most reliable sedan I have used.
I brought my civic n the damn AC didn’t work. I was mad asf because it went out halfway on my Vegas trip last April. Luckily it barely hit 70 degrees most of the days I was there even though one day was 78 degrees and the last day was kinda hot in the 80s.
Bought a used 2017 ex 2.0 non turbo with 95k (kms) on engine, feels and drives brand new, once I reach to 100k I’ll do some big maintenance and this car will be sure to live a long and healthy life !
I wonder if the uk built civics have these same issues??
Very interesting, I just purchased my 1.5 liter and noticed "Made in UK".
Oddly enough I have the same sunglasses. They are horrible to drive in. Blocks my peripheral vision. My 2016 ex has been great for 4yrs now.🍻
Both my 2016 + 2017 EXT sedans had severe problems with gas getting in the oil. Causing oil pan seal blow outs and premature engine wear. The 1.5T engine has serious issues and was covered up by de tuning the engine lessening the hp. The steering also started this funky stick tracking right left with no sensing option. Estimated $3500 to fix alone. I'd have to recommend stay clear of the 1.5T engine period.
2019 no problem. hatchback
I got mine inspected but it seems like my a/c runs good and cold when its in the 70s but cool in the 80s. How can i get it cold when its in the 80s and 90s? I don't have any problems other than that.
you're using econ mode?
@@chemschems4026 Yes, but even off of econ mode. I ended up selling it. Got more than what I paid for it.. Now I have a 2018 Honda Accord Ex-l. Runs perfect.
I didn’t know Hondas had a hidden problem
The radio sucks but I still love this car
Just bought a 16 with the 2L and manual trans, AC was repaired before I bought the car.
how many miles was on it o.o, just recently bought one too
What about automatic vs manual trans on these civics? Is one better than the other ?
Of course, the manual is much more reliable
@@motorhead16 but you set yourself up to have to pay almost $2k for a clutch replacement at some point. So don't forget to factor that cost in.
Bought a salvage 2017 1.5t ex-l...one of the best vehicles i have ever owned....just do extensive homework on your buy...i bought it to own for life...not for any resale..could care less..
I was told by the deanship, "our mechanics expected the car with our 101 point check list." Just lies... In the end, it's my fault for being duped.
I have a 2016 lx-p coupe with 90k on the dash no I have had no problems with this car as a a second owner since 27k
I already asked 2 Honda salesmen about the oil dilution in UK and the answer was: "Oil dilution? I never heard of it". Already puts you off from buying a car from them. Is it possible that these guys don't use the internet in this day and age?
oil dilution only happens when people always drive for really short trip , say 5 minutes
@@ANDY880130
That is exactly what some of us parents do, for example, driving kids to school or pensioners driving for shopping etc. it will be very short trips. However, from some research I did, oil dilution happen to many car manufacturers with direct injection engines. So Honda is not alone.
I don't see what short trips have to do with the piston rings not doing their damn jobs
@@bb5242I think it has to do with the fact you don't allow the engine to reach operating temperature with short trips
Scotty Kilmer talked about it in one of his videos, I think he recommended if not going on longer trips, leave the engine on for like 5 minutes for it to reach operating temp at the end of your trip before shutting off
trouble "signs" include check engine light or misfiring......not nuch of a sign, more full blown confirmation that something's wrong.
I mean if someone had those and wasn't immediately taking it to a garage anyway, i think i can understand why some people have issues 😂
I have a leak from the hatch into the boot. Will be booking in with dealer. Anyone else had this issue ?
Ever solve the leak?
@@akarinn343
The dealer removed interior trim on hatch and put some sort of seal around where the holes are for the spoiler, so far ok
i just bought a 2020 civic sport and now i have a lake of oil in my parking spot. only a month with him and he already has a week in the dealer. Hahahahahaha😂
I didnt do enough research before buying my Honda Civic Sport 2021 with 43k miles last month, but i got lucky that it's a 2.0 L engine and doesnt have any of these problems. The only thing I havent checked is the gps and the cam for switching lanes, but i have never been in a car that uses those, and don't plan to use them, the back up cam I do use and it works fine.
It is a CVT transmission, luckily there seem to be videos that explain well how to service that on my own
So much for reliability from Honda then.
Blame govt emissions regs
_Honda Motor of North America 🇺🇸 want to know your location._
6mts have 186hp, 10hp more than cvt
Sounds worse than most vehicles on road. What happened honda?
I have a 2018 Honda Civic hatchback sport and the AC just started blowing hot air at 66k miles. Hopefully it’s the condenser since that is covered by Honda🤦🏻♀️ this is my 3rd Honda Civic and I’ve had AC problems with each car. NEVER AGAIN WILL I BUY A HONDA CIVIC
Come to toyota
My 2015 Honda Civic blew the CVT trans at 97000 miles. Do not buy a civic with CVT transmission. They are junk and Honda won’t warranty it even though there is a recall on them!
Honda CVTs actually have a solid reputation. Yours blowing at 97,000 doesn’t say much. How often did you change the transmission fluid? CVT transmissions should have the fluid changed every 25,000-30,000 miles.
Here's a tip, Any Honda over 125K miles is a money sink hole. Why? Because that's when stuff goes wrong on them. Every Honda owner knows this and dumps them at about 110 or so.
That's true for most cars today. With domestic cars it usually occurs much sooner than that.
I have a 2003 with 165k, it's still going fine
bruh my Honda has 295,000 km. all ive done is change the oil and replaced spark plugs lol
@@CNDcovertno transmission fluid changes?
Lol. I stay away. Because of the oil dilution problems on these generation
Just change oil every 6 month and youre fine.
@@joakimberg692 a friend of mine has the 2017 hatch and have dilution problem that sometimes he can smell the gas inside the cabin. Hes selling the car now.
@@Pokka676 Only short trips can also cause oil dilusion. I only drive short trips but driving for like an hour now and then and rev the engine (once its warm ofc), like once a week should also "solve" it. That and changing oil every 6 months. I've had my Civic for 5 years now and not a single problem.
I mean, you need to somewhat take care of it, and you do it with more frequent oil changes and some long distances now and then. Then it should be fine. :)
@@joakimberg692 I totally understand what you’re saying. But it kinda defeats the purpose of a civic , to be trouble free solid communter car.
@@Pokka676 There is no completely 100% troublefree car, not even Toyotas. People make oil dilution a bigger problem than it really is.