Paramount+ Removing Star Trek: Prodigy -
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2023
- Yesterday Paramount announced Star Trek: Prodigy will be leaving the streaming service as Season 2 post-production wraps. Here's Seán with the news!
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I don't like the news. But much less I like it is that they associate Star Trek with the LGBTQ Odd Elements!
There is no better Pride for me than Kirk waving the Flag and the Constitution Charter of the United States of America!
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My seven year old daughter and I LOVE this show. I've been a life long Trekkie ever since TNG aired in the 80-90s and while my daughter does enjoy watching other Trek with me, she was able to REALLY get into this show. She was able to better relate to the characters, and I was still able to enjoy great Star Trek stories (and inform her how all the Easter eggs referenced other series).
This is, by far, the best Star Trek series to bridge the generational gap and attract a whole new audience for decades to come. PLEASE SAVE PRODIGY!!!
Same! Watching prodigy, with my seven-year-old (now eight) niece has been such a special thing for us. Much of my extended family are Trekkies; she was THRILLED when I told her they were making a Star Trek series for folks her age, and she could fully take part in the family tradition. I'm dreading the look in her eyes when I tell her they won't be a second season... as soon as we thought it was going to be, anyway! I really hope this series find a new home, I think it's the best of the new Treks honestly
For REAL! Been a lifelong trekkie since TNG, which I enjoyed with my dad, and now got to enjoy Trek with my kids.
Save ST Prodigy. It was getting really good. Don’t cancel it.
*taking their ques from Fox and the cancellation of Firefly in my opinion*
@@scottmantooth8785too soon! 😂
Getting good? It was good from the pilot. It was the strongest start of any Trek show period.
I love it - it's the best values of star trek. Optimism that we can be better than we are - it's more of a love letter to Trek than Lower decks is - and that's saying something.
The first Trek show to dare to expand upon what Trek is - and they cancel it in favor of endless TOS clones with added explosions.
@@Heymrk it’s a great show.. I meant it was getting good in a Paraphrasing context. Referring to Admiral Janeway’s adventures being hinted at in the season finale. Kinda like a good action movie at the end when the characters have that all out fight and everything comes together just right. That’s what I meant by it’s getting good.
Dam I was looking forward to seeing Janeway again and possibly saving Chakotay they can't leave us wondering whether he's alive still
Sean, you were 100% correct. I had resisted watching Prodigy because the first two episodes were rather boring. But I had decided I was going to watch it on your recommendations. So I binge watched the entire season last night and I absolutely loved it. This show MUST BE SAVED AT ALL COST.
I can't believe they are cancelling it. It was a great animated series. I really enjoyed the show. This happens every single time I get into a series.
Yes, it's totally a conspiracy. Clearly they cancel all the best shows because they're concerned it will raise viewer expectations from future shows.
Which is a shame because most of these cancelled shows would've made a pretty good movie had they taken that route to begin with.
Then stop getting into shows. Problem solved
@@Cthulhu4President Logically I know it's because the series doesn't bring in the revenue the big wigs were hoping for. Netflix cancels great shows often. They cancel series if they cost a good bit to make but don't get new prescribers to Netflix. They deem those series not worth the cost of making because they aren't making a huge profit or a decent profit. Some series like Stranger Things, You, The Crown, Better Call Saul, 13 Reasons Why, Peaky Blinders, The Blacklist and a few others are the reason most people keep Netflix. But eventually, even the best series could end up on the chopping block. If the series aren't bringing in new customers or making them money, they cut them. It's easier for them to just cancel a series than continue with it no matter how popular they are. I started waiting to wait a few seasons to watch some series but even that can backfire. I can't tell you how many shows that have 3 or 4 seasons that end on cliffhangers and get cancelled.
@@Ottophil seriously! You took the time to respond to me just saying I basically find it frustrating that good to great series get cancelled all the time. Do you bully old ladies to hurry up in the store or knock the disability down so you can get around them? I started to not even respond to you. Why comment on my post? I wasn't hurting you or anyone? I was expressing my opinion on the nature of how series sometimes get cancelled no matter how good they are. If they don't make a huge profit or a set amount for them, it's more cost effective to just cancel them. Regardless, I hope you have a good day.
Technically it's not cancelled. Probably still going to air on Nickelodeon. It's just not going to be on Paramount+.
It boggles my mind how the second season is almost done and yet they cancel it anyway. WTF????
Makes me worry about SNW S03 and LD S05, which have already been greenlit
Since launch, Paramount+ has been badly managed. This is another example, it's almost as if they want Paramount + to fail.
Given how much they've screwed over other platforms - and international audiences, who at times had no legal way to watch new Trek (and some countries STILL can't) - for the SOLE PURPOSE of building up Paramount+, I can't believe they now want Paramount+ to fail. I have to assume they're just incompetent.
Given how they tied it to Nickelodeon, this is actually par for the course. Nick has a long history of poorly managing shows and then cancelling them after one or two seasons. They also have a poor history of managing adult-interest sci fi shows too. I realize Nickelodeon was just a distributor and Paramount is the real party to blame here, but this is right in line for that "Nick Curse" those of us who remember Invader Zim, Space Cases, and others will recall.0
If you haven't seen it yet, consider giving it a go before they take it down. They're short episodes that are easy to binge. Even the smallest details and storylines are paid off so it's a satisfying watch.
I'm hoping Prodigy finds a new home and we see season 2 despite the lack of fidelity from Paramount. The creatives on season 1 and 2 deserve to have their work seen.
Wish I could, there's still no Paramount+ streaming where I am :-/
Speaking of details I think I will always love that Jankem Pog the Tellarite was basically introduced with the look of Bebop from Ninja Turtles (down to the pink fauxhawk and rad glasses) probably due to this being a Nickelodeon joint.
@@rubaiyat300 Since it's a Nickelodeon joint, do you think they'll actually put it on Nick or CBS?
I have been waiting to watch this show as well but there doesn’t seem to be a way to do it from NZ
@@anthonywalshe I know in Aus there’s at least some of it on binge. The streaming world is such a mess!
IF S2 has already been done, it HAS to be aired eventually!
A new network can do it!
It worked FOR The Orville, going from Fox to Hulu!
it will probably evently hit dvd.
@@gogereaver349 Evently?
I'm hoping we'll still get season 2 in some form. It's the first Star Trek that caught the interest of my son, and I just love seeing him get into a franchise that has been there my whole life.
Star Trek Prodigy has been the only way I managed to get my brother’s interest in Star Trek
I think season 2 is going to nickelodian...which means, that there is potentially a thing of it shifting development there
If they are taking a tax write down. Then there will be nothing more.
Same - my son is a big clone wars fan. I was able to suggest to him that this is comparable.
@@AzraelThanatos The Orville did it on another network, so it CAN be done!
I absolutely loved it! I binged the whole thing. They way they incorporated old Characters that would make young viewers want to watch the older shows was so cool and done in such a cool way. Being a huge voyager fan seeing Janeway again made me wanna cry with joy.
Thanks for bringing our attention to this. And thanks to the Prodigy team for making a great show.
The online petition reminds me of the letter writing campaign to save TOS.
The campaign got us a season 2.
Imagine if TOS only had one season!
Our lives would be very different. The letter writing campaign should give us hope that we can make a difference.
Thank you Sean for not only getting people together to save Prodigy, but for all your videos.
I hope Prodigy doesn't go to Netflix because they cancel everything.
Amazon Prime would be my choice.
Well Amazon had Picard and still has lower decks I think so hopefully
Actually... didn´t that lead to season 3?
You are probably right
My father wrote a letter to save TOS on his company’s letter head.
This definitely feels like a punch in the stomach. From the beginning I’ve loved Jankom and Rok. The show was already good and it was only getting better.
Regardless of how you feel about this show or any of the others, we need to come together as a family and and try to save this show. The next generation of Trekkies deserve as much trek as possible.
Right?! the first season and they get the 3D looking so good, they establish the characters so well? it's was masterful - it deserved the chance to mature because it came out of the gate way better than any other Trek show ever did.
@@JohnnyWednesday exactly. And this show isn’t just important to us. It’s important to the franchise. How deep the ties are, it deserves to continue the legacy.
This is how the fandom is going to grow.
As much as I enjoy all the current Trek, this one felt special. The character development was phenomenal. This was a bad decision and Prodigy will be missed
It's always best to stick with indie or overseas cartoons.
Spoken like a person who does not know Star Trek and never will. All these new shows and movies since 2009 suck. Hence why they are all getting canceled.
I already knew about this news and signed the petition. But watching the video, liking, and commenting for the algorithm boost. It’s an absolute shame they are cancelling this gem of a show.
Bring back the days of Star Trek on BBC 2 at dinner time instead of hunting for it across multiple platforms
The big part of the problem is that these streaming services owned by the studios or starting to come into the point where they are losing money and to save money. They're picking and choosing which products to back and the other problem contradicts exactly like Sean said they are not the be all end all for content more specifically. Paramount plus was advertising that they were going to be the place where you could see all of star trek. At 1 point or another but by shopping out and selling content to others how to make it cheaper to save money that they're losing it's going to create the same problem all over again and kind of the same problem that many cord cutters had that made them cord cutters cost. by being subscribers to multiple services stuck behind paywalls. Then your content is spread all over the place. This is the point now that the streaming bubble is going to burst and it's gonna change TV again which may make a lot of cord cutters go back to cable not all of them but it is a possibility. Also the other problem is physical media which still makes the studios money if they spend a little bit to make the disk. The DVD's and blue rays but many people might not have devices to play it on. There is a piece of news that paramount might be creating content like sony pictures yo sell to other services since they are in 5th to 5th place against, Amazon, Apple, netflix,Disney and even peacock going back to my point of so many platforms competing for our time and dollars. But those are my thoughts I do love prodigy I hope it comes on another platform that I have already, but it should not have leave Paramount + to begin with.
I think it's sad that they're dumping this series. I was truly impressed with the detail and complex story lines they incorporated. I also like the fact that it was CGI instead of just animation. With the Hollywood turmoil going on, I can sort of see the logic behind the decision but as far as ratings go...it's their own fault for having so few episodes and a long hiatus in between them as well. Since we don't know the plot twists that lie ahead, we can't say that they wouldn't have been controversial. We may never know but I would like to find out without a doubt. If the story does become controversial, air it at night and remove the Nickelodeon name if possible or brand it adult only. This baby didn't deserve to die in its crib at all from what I noticed. I'm going to have to rewatch the whole series to find out, I guess. If the decision is strike related or from fear of a pride backlash, then maybe it's for the best and only temporary until things are resolved. We may never know.
"it's their own fault for having so few episodes and a long hiatus in between them as well. "
IDK, I think that's an awfully convenient complaint. They could have have commissioned twice as many episodes and dropped them all at once, it really wouldn't have made a lot of difference when they locked the show into a streaming service that was contractually locked into debuting on a streamer NOT AVAILABLE IN AN AWFUL LOT OF KEY MARKETS.
And people who think if we just reverted to the good old days of 24 epsiode broadcast seasons? Well, I'd remind everyone broadcast networks aren't exactly shy about swinging the axe. Hell, Fox cancelled its top-rating scripted drama (9-11) because it's also a expensive show to produce, give the large ensemble cast, extensive location work and cost of staging disasters and medical emergencies every week.
@@CRanapia Even TH-cam presenters know that if they have a regular schedule that they send out their videos to, Their viewers will drop off if they halt production. The viewer will go somewhere else and won't be as interested in returning in many cases. The only thing that saves them in these cases is having the series available on demand. Since it's a kids series, corporate doesn't care as much. If their metrics show that a very large majority of the viewers watched the series without ads then corporate doesn't see the series as very profitable because it won't attract sponsors. It's all about the numbers and if the series doesn't make them enough money, it goes away.
@@CRanapia I wasn't complaining. That's an observation. I don't get bothered by TV or movies not meeting my expectations. It happens all the time and will continue to as well. As far as the market availability, well, I live near the top of a mountain with no cell, broadcast or cable service available. I have just a landline phone and a DSL line for internet. It took them 6 months just to get that run up the mountain. My point is that I get what I get and am unaware of the mainstream programing options other than not being able to watch my local NFL games since I moved up here. Regrets, yes. Complaints...never. I wouldn't trade my tranquility and hunting grounds for anything.
streaming companies can't be trusted to keep, and not re-cut (looking at you, Disney) content at their pleasure. If you feel that something is essential to your fandom, or want to re-watch it whenever you please, you have to find a way, to hold a physical copy, even if it's not officially released on such...
These studios are going to start feeling the hurt. Piracy was *huge* in the aughts, with DRM being the equivalent of locking the front door while leaving your windows open. Streaming proved Gabe Newell correct: "Piracy is not a pricing issue. It's a service issue," as demonstrated by the *exorbitant* prices we all pay across a half-dozen streaming services. But as the pendulum starts to swing the other way, folks are going to realize that there's only one streaming service you can truly rely on:
Your buddy's Jellyfin
They forced a situation where a lot of international fans were forced to pirate it.
That's such sad news. They didn't push it enough and it was such a gem. It had amazing character development and depth for something marketed towards children.
You can only buy part one of season one ; the second part has not been released if at all. Buying the dvd and blu ray will also send the message
I never rent my Star Trek. As long as there is physical media then I’m buying it and then I can watch it when I want and where I want rather than being at the mercy of corporate suits. I want to be in control of my media, but companies want to take away that control. I will never rent my tv, music etc because they take it away on a whim or if you stop continuously paying.
Amen! More fans need to think this way...physical media may be bulky, but once you own it, YOU own it. It can't be altered, or taken off a streaming service.
I will always prefer physical media - once you've bought it, it's yours, it sits on a shelf in your house and you can watch it whenever and as long as you like (and yes, I still have a VCR for a few precious tapes).
People in the UK got an early warning about streaming models as long ago as 2017 when the BBC Store service was shut down at short notice. In fairness to the BBC everyone received a full refund for the content they had 'bought', but this was scant compensation when you thought you 'owned' shows from the corporation's vast archive, many of which had never been available in any form since their first broadcast.
Agreed. Hard evidence, not the cloud. Clouds tend to... Evaporate
This is devastating! I watched the series and loved it. I played the game and loved it! All in the face of adversity that Paramount+ continues to NOT be in Singapore and the game not being on the Singapore PS store. Ad Astra per Aspera. Prodigy had all the formulae of Star Wars Rebels that could appeal to both adult and kid fans and add more to the wider story and universe … with one exception … sadly it’s not Disney. Paramount really needs to recognise both its biggest fan bases and its global fans bases. Then … what I hope was a difficult decision for them will be less inclined to happen
It was the first show since TNG that actually tried to do something new - and it's more true to the values of Trek than any of the other shows, on average. I really love it and I'm devastated they'd cancel it - I love it even more than Lower Decks
How old were you when you started watching Star Trek? Did you need a kiddy-fied cartoon version of it? No, you didn't. Kids don't need this. Kids capable of living by Star Trek values just get it.
I got through 19/20 episodes of a rewatch to show my support before it disappeared today. And I've signed the petition and posted. Doing my part to help this franchise that is so needed in the world.
You know, this would be the perfect time to resurrect the Enterprise series. Jolene Blalock might be a tough one to get onboard, but the potential to bring back that show and set it after the birth of the Federation with the old crew facing the Romulan threat and such, that would go down a hit right now.
Nah just too late
ST: prodigy has a great potential of being a clone wars for trek fans. The depth, the actors involved, the animation was great as well! I signed. We need to do a full season airing and see how it goes before canceling a bad advertised trek.
Honestly its one of the most underrated star trek shows i didn't expect to love it so much i hope we get to see season 2 at least and hopefully its saved even if for shorter seasons
hopefully some else might buy it, or gets saved , it was awesome, one of the better shows, fingers crossed
Hope not, cartoon Trek always bugged me, too hokey for its own good.
@@travisfoster1071 - A lot of people need real faces to feel the connection - I totally get it - but any trek at all? strengthens Treks future and lots of people like "Lower Decks" for example. I was there when many complained about Enterprise - and look what happened, we lost trek for years.
@@travisfoster1071how many seasons did Star Wars the Clone Wars get? You're the only one that thinks it's "hokey"
There's been animated Star Trek as long as there's been Star Trek. Yes, the original series had an animated followup using the original series' actors for the voices. It aired for two seasons. 22 episodes.
Studio specific Streaming was supposed to alleviate this kinda thing where all seasons of a show was at a user's fingertips. Canceling it is one thing...but removing it all together? Thats such an odd move. And if no other service or channel picks it up, it's lost forever. Did it even get a physical release?
I expect that residual fees are the reason why they are actually pulling the series.
If they pull it from the service they get to write it off all the expenses put into it and prevent having to pay residuals. Same reason HBO started pulling a bunch of things. Similar to why the already finished Batgirl movie will never be released.
The first half has been released on at least blu ray, I think DVD. But not the second half yet. And now who knows if it will.
Take a look at 3 minutes of that show and see the love and effort the animators and other artists put into it. Hear Kate's voice beam with pride and passion - it's a glowing tribute to the best values of star trek and for such a thing to be lost due to greed and money? it's tragic. I will be buying it if they release it - it's more of a love letter to Trek than "lower decks" is and Lower decks worships Trek.
In a world where streaming platforms are pulling shows from their services, nobody should be surprised that people turn to downloading. If there is no other way to watch a show that you want to watch, that is the only option remaining. Paramount+ was marketed as the streaming platform for ALL Star Trek, so I consider pulling one show for financial reasons to be deception of customers. There should be a refund for that, or compensation for extra costs made for watching it elsewhere. If there was a legally mandatory refund for deceptive marketing that may actually cost them more money than keeping the show on the platform.🤔
It may be "for kids" but it was still a good star trek show and deserves more than 1 season
I think as being for kids, this show is an introduction for those 1st experiencing Star Trek. For older teens to adults, it was highly entertaining and enjoyable. One point that has been made over and over is that is a show that the entire family can watch. It was set to welcome a new set of Trek watchers to the franchise. This show should never have been considered for the chopping block even to cut back on expenses. It would pay off just as the original Trek did (and is still doing), but much sooner.
@@PeachLee858 Yeah, its a much better experience for kids. My first experience with Star Trek was the Borg in "best of both worlds". 😬
Prodigy quickly became one of my favorite Trek shows! It has to be saved! Netflix seems the best fit for Prodigy. Netflix already has the Nickelodeon deal and Netflix has had some great animated shows (I enjoyed the Trollhunters stuff). And it would allow Netflix to continue to drop Seasons in Part 1 and Part 2
I paused Prodigy to watch this video.
Dude, why you gotta call people out?
Sign the petition, tweet, retweet, quote tweet the petition, anyone's tweet, flood everyone's feed, put it on freaking Facebook.
Do what you gotta do. Never give up the fight.
Wow, I wish I felt this way about more things...
Not only did they cancel it, but they're removing it from streaming before the second half of season one has even gotten a DVD release.
Without piracy, there's a good chance Prodigy will become lost media.
Please help save Prodigy! I'm going to do everything I can do to keep this treasure available for all of us, and it breaks my heart 💔that it's being canceled, but we Trekkies are powerful when we let the powers that be hear our voices. Kirk didn't believe in no-win scenarios, and im going to be like Kirk and refuse to believe in them either! LLAP! I 🖖💕
Again, and I say this with the utmost displeasure, all of these big corporations seem to not care what we think as viewers/fans. As you said, it’s all about money. At least to them. Paramount has been reluctant in the past to push Star Trek into a larger franchise with its cautious approach to the big screen movies, or even more so, the streaming services. If they think Star Trek is losing money, it is only because they are not producing 25 episodes per season, like it was done on main stream television. We as fans are not wanting to invest in short story seasons. Give us what TNG had. THEN you will see the fan base rise, and the subscriptions increase.
To have a handful of Prodigy episodes, just to drop the series, is not giving the show a chance. The proof is, Star Trek IS a viable franchise, but it needs to be handled in such a way that we as viewers will want to come back for more.
Sorry for the rant, but Paramount+ seems to be spending money in places where it shouldn’t in replacement of keeping good shows. Sending their shows to other streaming services may make them more money, but it sure is exasperating to run around the streaming platforms to find your favorite shows, and in some cases have to pay on top of what you’re already paying for the service! Greed has us in its grips….
We are not in the 23rd century where money is not important….sadly.
This Bites! Prodigy is an outstanding show with a very deep storyline. I need to see how it's going to end!
Signed the petition! To all those 10's of thousands watching this who haven't yet done so, please do go & sign it! Let's take some action & get our voices heard!
I loved this series, and watched it with my children, and they loved it too. I'm so disheartened by the cancelation!
Can I just say I felt like a player in a game and we lost the game when they canceled the show. Watching this felt like our coach has just given us a new lease on life and gave us a pat on the back and said everything will be all right and we will save Star Trek:Prodigy thanks for this!!!
Signed the petition to save it; it's linked in the Jessie Gender vid on this as well. Maybe saving it TOS style has a chance.
I enjoyed Prodigy better than Lower Decks. It was nice to see Captain Kathryn Janeway again. Sad to see it go.
Hopefully you are right and that another streaming server would buy it and air it.
Remind Paramount that back in the 60s if NBC had ignored the now famous fan letter writing campaign their cash cow franchise wouldn't exist.
I thought it was going to be a rubbish show. watched it and it was very very good!
Petitions won’t save it unfortunately. Discussion is over as far as paramount goes. Hopefully Netflix gets S2
After the disaster of the last minutes pulling of discovery they about turned and fixed it within a week
It's an outright travesty that this show is struggling to have a season 2 when shows like Discovery got five. I hope we can manage to save it somehow.
There are platforms that have all the series. And they are free, too. All this streaming fragmentation does is breathe new life into those platforms.
Gees, Discovery got 5 frickin' seasons yet Prodigy gets done dirty like this! Yeesh!
I have signed the petition. We have to and we can save Prodigy. I think Prodigy is important to bring new fans, because the childrens of today are the fans of tomorrow. We have to save Prodigiy and have to go with more and more seasons.
Is there a petition to sign which doesn't require social media? I'm not going to sign up for Twitter just to sign one petition. I love Star Trek: Prodigy but social media and I just don't see eye to eye.
Canceling Prodigy is one thing, but trying to scrub the show from existence is another
We are "finally" facing the storage issue of streaming service. The nerf of the media entertainment war is the price of storing the data, so when the demand hit or presumably hit a certain level the cost of keeping the show on server versus demand, the finance dep make the cut.
Storage is cheap as hell these days. especially compared to what steaming it costs. but you still want and need content.
@@ADMNtek it not when 4k and up rez.
@@vamwolf Even at 4k, it's only about 2.5 GB per episode since stream video is compressed. That is nothing. companies like this have PETABYTES in online storage.
and they mainly use AWS. and google cloud you know the same servers as youtube.
Also, the Paramount Plus merger takes place on June 27th, So June 26th sounds right. My guess is that they will move Prodigy to an ad supported streaming service. It does explain why they separated out characters for only use on Prodigy.
Well, it happened. I went to check Prodigy at Paramount+, and it was removed. I only have the first 10 episodes on DVD, and I can't find any DVD that has all 20.
Interesting. But I kind of get it. At first Prodigy confused me and seemed odd for a Trek series. Seemed more like Star Wars Rebels than anything Star Trek. But, I did wind up liking it, though I don't expect to miss it. Very strange to actually remove it for viewing. Paramount Plus is a real mixed bag. Worst software (apps and desktop) -- which raises the question, How do you mess up something as simple as a video player, but they have. Farewell Prodigy.
Star Trek Prodigy deserves another chance!
I am so incredibly confused as to the logic behind the cancellation.
Season 1 part 2 has just been released to skyshowtime in my country. Like, last week: it has been hosted on another streaming service for a good while. I am delighted to finally catch it. I am at ep 13 and it is so good - and now this news. Hoping for the best for the show
It's a brutal industry to be part of at times and I really do feel for everyone who's worked on Prodigy. I think streaming platforms in general are about to undergo a huge change, the bubble has burst in some respects partly due to more platforms being available and partly due to world economics. I think most are reporting a drop in subscribers, subscriber uptake and viewing figures, they'll be looking at their business models and having a re-think. I wouldn't be surprised if the practice of cancelling shows and removing them doesn't continue while they all jockey for position. Add in the fact that the WGA strike has highlighted issues with how (if) creatives are being paid, something else they will have to factor into the budgets going forward and you can see why they are taking advantage of things like tax breaks. It will settle down eventually but may well be a bumpy ride until we get there.
They suddenly learned no one is going to pay $120 a month for mostly static content?
"Paramount+ is the home of all Star Trek" my tail! This is part of a money grab for the Ferengi in charge at Paramount.
I just watched voyager'a caretaker ep again and couldn't help but think of the kim/quark scene
Slurs against my people in starfleet?! Who is your commanding officer son?
Hopefully, another streaming provider will pick it up. If you haven't seen it yet, you should have a look. And sign the petition - it's in the description.
Oh boy, I bet Playmates is ticked that they invested so heavily in creating a Prodigy toy line. I wonder if the toys will ever be released or if actual physical toy production even got underway?
Playmates has completely mismanaged their resurgence into Trek toys. I literally have seen ZERO TNG new product and I know figures are supposed to be out there in the retail world.
The only new releases I've seen have been the Wrath of Khan figures, the classic phaser, and the NCC-1701.
What a chaotic time to be a fan!
This is the first I've heard about it, guessing that's the real problem. I'm a huge trek fan but this one's flown right over my radar. Feel abit ashamed and guilty tbh
That actually IS the real problem. They barely advertised it. That and the people who refused to even try it while criticizing it anyway.
You can always binge watch it now… it has a couple of days. Always nice to boost its streaming numbers before it goes. And it is worth it too!
I love Trek - I was there for Way of the Warrior - my school password was a self destruct code - I promise you faithfully that if any Trek episode put a smile on your face? watch an episode of Prodigy - it was made for you in the hope you'd watch it with your kids. That's not a bad thing! it's like a Pixar movie - there's stuff for the adults too.
What? That is such bad news. I don't understand why are they removing it from Paramount Plus. These streaming companies are just not worth having anymore. How many streaming services do we need to subscribe to? They are getting expensive and the majority have crap shows. The streamers might have one or two shows worth watching the rest is simply garbage.
Right? I could understand if they were removing it if it was Netflix, or any other service but P+, since that would be an issue of distribution etc...but if they own it...wtf?
If they pull it from the services they get to write it off as a total loss. It’s for accounting reasons.
Looks like their repositioning Paramount+ as an adult channel and a tiny amount of kids content doesnt really mesh.
Bummer! My mom and I went into Prodigy with low expectations, but it didn't take long to fall in love with it.
I canceled my Paramount+ subscription until this and lower decks were back on the air. Now I think I can just wait a while.
Edit: I will get it on Bluray if it's released that way (not DVD)
Keep Prodigy! I know it's probably too late now, but get rid of Academy. I've not read ONE SINGLE comment of excitement about Academy. There's SOO much story material to mine from Prodigy!!! Love the shirt by the way! 🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
To remove them from streaming keeps writers from getting residuals sadly
Only kinda maybe. The whole writer’s strike right now is in part because streaming royalties are almost non-existent. Even if they are put in place it’s unlikely to be back dated. The real reason for pulling a show from a service is tax write-offs. If a show is considered a total loss they can recoup some money by writing it off. HBOMax did it a while ago and now other services are following suit as they see a way to save money and recoup some losses on their less-than-successful shows.
I knew this video was coming as soon as I found out yesterday. I'm really let down at how many of the VoCaL Trek fans complain about the show and didn't watch the season!
Signed the petition. Sean, thank you for your comments and spotlighting of this gobsmacking decision by "the powers that be". It makes one wish that a streaming service existed that was strictly devoted to "all things Star Trek"; perhaps a partnership with Discipline Global Mobile?
To be honest the show did kinda shoot itself in the foot, a massive gap between each half of the season which naturally people would forget about it and a prity mid first half. All this would add up so when the show got good, most people didn't even care
That's not "the show shooting itself in the foot." That's Paramount+ shooting the show in the foot.
@@jonathonwhitington402 but it does contribute it, I've seen many people who quit the show after 2 episodes because they hate the characters and have no interest in returning even when the show got good. The first half was a massive turn off for people
@serina3872 except those are two completely different issues. If people aren't willing to watch past 2 episodes, then they're not going to watch past 2 episodes regardless of if they air all 20 episodes in a big block of 20 weeks. If they dropped all of them at once, it might be a different story, but Paramount+ isn't Netflix. It doesn't do full season drops like that.
This is why it's important to actually own physical copies of things...not just your movies and your TV shows...but your books. If not physical physical...at least make sure you have the files. Then when corporations like this make decisions, you still have the thing you love. All these streamer mergers are literally just reinventing cable but cutting out the cable company middle man to increase the profits of the studios themselves.
I 1000% agree! I do all I can to own every movie and tv show I love on dvd/bluray for this EXACT reason; because they can be pulled off at any minute! There's shows that have been finished for a few years now that I have dvds of that they only released half the series for and I hate that they haven't finished the physical release, and movies that are all part of the same universe that only a couple have physical releases and the others are still Netflix exclusive! They NEED to keep up with making physical releases no matter how appealing streaming movies and shows/ebooks is because it might get pulled someday and leave you with no way to watch it!
If you haven't seen Prodigy yet, I urge you to do so. It is more mature than most of the new Trek out there.
The main problem that all network shows have always had, is that ratings are secondary, money is primary and there has never been any mechanism through which individual shows could insulate themselves financially against cancellation. In modern times, the fact that this is still the case, is simply ridiculous. With things like Patreon, GoFundMe, and the like -- a shows fan base would have plenty of ways to financially help insulate their favorite shows from cancellation. On a streaming network, one does not have "time slot" issues because with on-demand content, you can have as little or much of it on a platform at the same time, as you want to. So if a show had the means to pick up the financial slack itself, the network would not need to cancel it, even if ratings were technically lower than the network would like them to be. As long as money was flowing in to keep it going, then it would indeed keep going. The fact that this has not at all been anywhere close to "common sense" among show runners, just boggles the mind. You hear that, Paramount?
I subscribed the petition, because I really love ST Prodigy (and I‘m not a child at all). It‘s beautifully made, it‘s Janeway, it‘s the young and mostly clueless but integer, creative and loving crew. It‘s the small stories and the bigger story-arc. It‘s about doing the right things, stand up against evil for the greater good. I really hope this series will continue on Amazon Prime.
Love the show. Pleasantly surprised about good Prodigy is. BTW- the only reason I got on Paramount + was so that I could have Star Trek ALL STAR TREK at one spot. Cmon man !!!!!! 😡.
Inorite?!
I think they've realised that income from subscribers is not enough. The only reason I can think of why they are taking it off paramount plus is so that they can sell to other networks. Syndication pays...streaming does not.
I wasn't sure I was going to watch Prodigy... I had seen some episodes of Lower Decks, and the first few, I really wasn't fond of... due to it all being a bit "frantic", and knowing that Prodigy was supposed to be for an even younger audience.. I wasn't keen.
But, I decided to give it a go... and I really enjoyed it!
I hope somewhere else picks it up - If they have almost made Season 2, it would seem daft not to make it available somewhere!!
I hope we will see Season 2. I don't want it to be perma-shelved like Star Wars Detours, which had a very interesting trailer and according to some reports more than 10 finished, but unaired episodes.
omfg they just did this to an AMC+ show. Pantheon. The second season was approved and done, but they canceled it and pulled the first season. I never got into Prodigy but I feel your pain so much. Animation doesn't get the respect it deserves. Especially in America. Its unfortunate because the medium is such a good place to tell adult stories with fantastical elements that are more believable than when its live action. i had hoped arcane would of changed peoples minds about adult animation but seems we are a long way off.
Oh ya they also did this to Final Space cause Zazlof doesn't respect animation.
This is part of why I am pleasantly surprised that Babylon 5 is getting an animated follow up.
Prodigy was highly regarded with critics and Trek fans alike. It also stings more since Legacy hasn’t been greenlit, and Starfleet Academy is going forward despite the negative fan reception to the 32nd century timeline.
Sean, please do a focus piece on the fact that despite immense improvements in the production values of all-things-Trek, why do control panels and wall/ceiling panels continue to explode and burst into flames on the bridges of every single Federation vessel? Hitting turbulence, getting tossed around -- sparks will fly, smoke will billow, flames will lick. And how about the fact that you almost never see anyone put on a seatbelt even though when things go wrong crewmember get tossed around and even killed. Does nobody on the Trek team see the ridiculousness of these things?
It's all about action & drama...a totally safe starship battle isn't "exciting".
Chalk it up to the lost history caused by WW3. They saw fragments of manuals referring to making consoles out of molded plastics, and they thought that plastic *explosives* were the same thing, so they shrugged and started making all of their consoles out of stuff that goes boom. And maybe isolinear chips are made of C4? /s
Given the way physics work in the real world, having seatbelts on the Enterprise would be like using a bus handrail during a rocket launch. If the crew were actually subject to inertia unprotected, they would liquefy even at impulse.
I was really skeptical about Prodigy but quickly came to love it, and I am a paying Paramount subscriber, for now.
We've thought that we were in a new Trek golden age. And while that was true, in the span of 12 months we have gone from 5 concurrent Trek shows, to 2. As two have been cancelled and none has run it's course. Now all that remains is Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds. Yes, in theory the Section 31 film, and Starfleet Academy are in development, but they are still reasonably early in development and with the writer's strike continuing, they are just frozen in stasis. Already acrossn the industry we've seen shows and films outright cancelled because studios don't want to wait for the strike and it's costs.
We could be in a major consolidation of Star Trek again, back to only having one or two concurrent shows.
Also... is the second half of season 1 on disk yet?
i can see the Chakotay Janeway story being played out in live action and that being the reason for cancellation and removal. At least that is my greatest hope.
Someone please save the show, Amazon, Netflix anyone, I know you're ready this. It's a quality show with a great potential future, sign the petition please everyone, it takes seconds and a quick verify on your email, what's stopping you. Much love to the whatculture/trekculture team for bringing it to us.
Oh FFS, I was finally getting settled with the idea that Star Trek would finally be unified on one platform.
i loved the hell out of this show. voyager and janeway are my favorites. i also used this to introduce my oldest (7) to star trek. he loved it as much as i did, and the number of times we paused it so i could give him context or to explain something was uncountable. its so sad to see this show being removed. both of us were so excited for the 2nd season.
That is definitely the point. I remember my Mom and me. Watching the old Star Trek. And then when Next Generation came out. Definitely a good comment.
Signed and shared Sean! the ONLY REASON i subscribe to Paramount plus in the UK is for Star Trek and some other shows they had like halo (that seems to have disappeared after 1 season too! ) shame queen of the universe is going too as i watched that ...rise of pink ladies not so much lol ....BUT the question is with this merger with showtime are we in the uk gonna get shows we never had access to with showtime before? im still PI**ED THEY ARE GETING RID OF PRODIGY THOUGH ..I THOUGHT STAR TREK shows were their lynch pin of the service?
Have we seen viewership numbers for any of these shows? Streaming services are super shady with that info and it should worry us all as we have no clue what could be canned next
This show is /was for me the last of Roddenberry Star Trek . Watched it with my kids and my wife and brought my Children the understanding what "trekki" means and why her father always talk of this Star Trek thing.
I'm not getting abunch different services just to get all of Star Trek. I will just have to stick with whichever one has the most series or the main one that I wanna watch.
The main issue I believe is that, despite its recent resurgence, a large portion of the population still see sci-fi shows like Star Trek as a niche show for geeks. Yes, the number belie that belief, but it has also always seemed that studio executives have never been a fan of the show. Sci fi is always expensive to produce, which is why we get only 10 episodes per season of a show instead of the 22-26 we used to get, so why would they want to spend a lot of many for what they believe will be seen by a very limited audience. The fact that, as Sean has stated, Prodigy was forced into an even narrower market by being labelled as a kids show, combined with the slash and burn agriculture that emerges whenever two services/networks merge (look at how the Arrowverse fared when CW was bought out), made it almost inevitable that Prodigy would be the one on the chopping block. Lower Decks had a better start and reception, and would likely cost less to produce because it's traditional animation, but both animated series take time to produce, making it hard for a company for fork out the money for the show when they have to wait so long to see any returns. Here's hoping that the conclusion of Discovery will allow more resources to be diverted to the other shows, shoring them up against future turbulence.
I found your Twitter account but I can’t find the petition itself?
It’s a couple of tweets down but we’ve also pinned a comment with it and added it to the video description 🖖
@@TrekCulturefound it and signed. :)
Prodigy is a worthy show. Worthy of Star Trek, worthy of airing the second season, worthy of continuing beyond season 2. It's quality TV that appeals to both kids and adults.
Thank you Trek Culture for the heads up. I have been saying for years that if you like something then it’s really worth investing in the physical media. Just try to find the original Star Trek from the sixties not remastered or the theatrical original Star Wars trilogy on any streaming service. There are many other examples where something has been removed, remastered or re-edited and the version you loved only survives on dvd or blu-ray. That being said keep up the pressure for the program you love. Cheers. Pete.
Are they cancelling it, or are they going full "Final Space" where they do that evil tax write off where they delete the entire series, getting rid of all merchandise and making it impossible to stream or buy DVD copies?
I hate Disney, I don't use Amazon, but I had Netflix until they went too far with this not sharing, but being expensive, paying 100 million only for Friends, another one for HIMYM, producing BS, but having "Main Star Trek". Now I have Paramount+ and they delete a show? I hope, they will bring it back even with no episodes. I haven't seen this (nor Picard nor the last season Discovery), so this would be really bad.
No wonder piracy is big again. The promise was "Video on DEMAND", but deleting this or in general having no guaranty to have a show "on demand" is annoying.
Some years ago Netflix had the good old Ghost Busters animation. I watched it several nights, but one night it was gone with no explanation... Frustration...