Still sad .270 win beat out the 6.8 Western previously. People voted with their hearts and with bias, when it was ballistically clear which round was more capable of long range hunting and precision.
Your velocity numbers are very off if they were all 140 gr bullets. The 6.5-300 should be up around 3400 fps and the Nosler should be around 75 fps less (> 200 fps faster) which makes it seem like your not getting as much as you are when stepping up. Overall though these are all magnums and barrel life should be pretty similar so why not go big at that point and get a 6.5-300.
Because most people can’t afford to pay $100+ for boxes of 20. Even reloading those cartridges is significantly more expensive than other more common options. If my money was burning a hole in my pocket, I would go with those big boy rounds as well.
@@mouthbreather280 Yeah I reload so I dont really pay much attention to factory ammo prices. After the first box though you could probably reload that brass 5 or more times. It shouldn't be much more expensive than reloading any of the other cartridges if you dont count the brass because the only thing thats different would be the amount of powder which would only be maybe 20 cents more.
@@randallingram7992 Not a fan of 6.5 in general and dont think it should really be used for much more than deer. I like the philosophy of there is no such thing as too dead. I also have a 300wby but it pretty much stays in the safe because I have a 340wby in a mark V.
@@Nick-sx6jm Funny, I see a ton of videos on YT of 6.5 PRC slaying elk and moose with a high degree of effectiveness. Relegating 6.5 to a "deer bullet" is beyond comical.
264 win mag all day. Atleast you can find it online somewhat cheap. The stores around me only ever have 5.56/.223, .308/7.62, 9mm and 45. 6.5 prc is always 4 to 5 dollars a round online. No way I'm paying that haha. I get if you are reloading it and it doesn't cost you that much, but buying online is a rip-off and it's never on the shelves around here.
6.5 PRC. I reload and am getting a 156 Berger EOL to move at 2917 with 1/2 moa. Tested what I call bullet performance on milk jugs at 400ish yards and the jugs were in a few pieces.
This is easy: 6.5 PRC without a doubt. It's by far the best balanced design. I am really looking forward to more availability on this side of the Atlantic. It will make a perfect mountain hunting cartridge in Europe where the 6.5's have always been among the most popular, especially when chambered in the traditional lightweight single shot rifles. No really big animals either on the higher peaks. I have never considered the 6.5 Creed because it is pretty much like the 6.5 Swede for hunting and I consider both as 300 yards hunting cartridges. Generally speaking the 6.5 mm is my preferred choice for game up to 250 lbs. On larger animals I prefer a bigger caliber. So the 6.5 PRC appears to fall in a nice spot for me.
6.5-300 is definitely my vote! Seems like the numbers were cherry picked a little bit. Using the 127 grain Barnes you have very different numbers that wouldn’t quite match the narrative. Felt like the 6.5-300 was undersold due to some bias. All great calibers though. I just prefer the versatility of the 6.5-300 myself. Thanks for the videos though. Always love to hear your opinion.
I read your comment after having posted mine. I said the same thing. He's under selling the 6.5-300. I've also said, this is all highly dependent on the application. Where are you hunting? Is it open terrain? If you're hunting White-Tails in an agricultural field with woods on all 4 sides and your longest shot may be 150 yards, then you don't need a 6.5-30 Weatherby, but if you're hunting Mountain Goats in British Columbia and you may not be able to get any closer than 600+ yards, you're most assuredly going to want the added reach of the 6.5-300.
@@JCTaylor21 Yeah, these numbers have been horribly cherry picked. The actual numbers on are closer to 3500 fps with the 127 lrx's. The stats would differ if the numbers weren't fudged to the narrative.
Just sold my 6.5-300 paperweight of a rifle, what good is it if you can’t find/buy ammo to shoot it? And if you can, $6+ a round isn’t all that appealing
I know it's going to be at bottom in voting, but I'll stick with my 264 win mag. Rebarreling an existing rifle with the correct twist rate is still a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new rifle. But everyone has their own preferences, and more power to them.
I own a 6.5 Creedmoor and just can't see any reason I would get rid of it for the 6.5 PRC. My main concern isn't getting maximum velocity or energy out of the round. It's having a good shooting rifle that can kill deer. The 6.5 Creedmoor does that. While it may not have the short range power of my 308 Win, it has longer maximum range and less recoil. It's not as fast as my 243 Win out to 400 yards, but after 400 yards it has more velocity due to better BC. It has more power than the 243 Win at all ranges. Also, I can load it with a 95 grain VMax for varmints (3,300 fps), a 147 for deer and everything in-between. I also worked up a 123 grain SST light load that has a MV of 2,700 fps. Very light recoil that is perfect for a young shooter, but has enough power to kill deer out to 500 yards. It's just a solid rifle that's good for small to medium game.
The Creed is a great little cartridge when used within it's limitations. Looks like you have that figured out. I believe this cartridge war is about finding one that's good for elk, deer, and long-range targets. All while balancing recoil, cost, and availability. The Creed just lacks the power to be a reliable elk hunting round so it doesn't stand much of a chance here.
@@mqeqeshe1 What's interesting is that a lot of people have no problem using a 308 Win or 30-06 for elk, but don't realize that the 6.5 Creed actually has similar energy and better velocity. For example, the common wisdom is that a round must have 1,500 ft-lbs of energy at impact to kill an elk efficiently and 1,900 fps of velocity to expand reliably. A 308 Win shooting a 178gr ELD-X will hit 1,500 ft-lbs at about 425 yards. A 30-06 shooting that same bullet will run out of energy at 525 yards and the 143gr 6.5 Creedmoor will drop to 1,500 ft-lbs at 375 yards. SO if you're not shooting over 375 yards, they will all do just fine. Other people think that 1,000 ft-lbs if the limit. Using the same ammunition as the last example; the 308 is good to 475 yards (runs out of velocity) the 30-06 is good to 550 yards (runs out of velocity ) the 6.5 Creedmoor is good to 600 yards (runs out of velocity, not energy). It's also worth remembering that people do kill elk with bows and arrows. So the 6.5 Creedmoor is plenty good to at least 375 yards.
@@gsh341 Nice comparison on all the numbers. I have no doubt the 6.5 Creedmoor is capable of killing an elk at 375 yards, I just think your odds of wounding or losing that animal is much higher when compared to a bigger caliber. The one number that you're missing is frontal area. A bullet transfers energy to it's target via the surface area on the leading end. The 308 Winchester has 36% more frontal area so its a lot more effective at transferring energy. If a 6.5 and a 30 caliber bullet arrive on target with 1500 ft lbs apiece they will not do equal damage. A bigger pipe flows more water, a bigger engine makes more power, and a bigger bullet transfers more energy. This is why most African countries require a minimum of .375 caliber for dangerous game. There are several .30 and .338 caliber cartridges that carry more energy than the 375 H&H but they lack the frontal area to efficiently convert that energy into tissue damage.
I'd say 6.5-300 all day I think it's the most versatile out of the line up. And the weatherby loaded 130 swift scirocco I believe it's the flattest shooting load around. Commercially available anyway
It also depends on the application. If you're hunting White-Tails in timber and your shots are going to be 70, 80, 130 yards, do you need a 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum? No. But if you're traveling to Tajikistan to hunt Markhor, you've spent 3 years planning the hunt and spent $150,000 on it, you sure as hell are going to want the 6.5-300 over any of the other options. You're going to want those 200-250 yards of added effective range the 6.5-300 is going to give you. Or if you're hunting Pronghorns in Eastern Wyoming where ranges can be 700-800 yards, you're going to want that 6.5-300 Weatherby.
I think your velocity numbers may be off slightly. The 6.5 Weatherby RPM shoots 3075 FPS with a 140 grain Accubond in factory Weatherby ammo. Personally though, I would pick the 6.5-300 Wby. If you are going to shoot a magnum might as well go big! That thing is a laser!
I posted about that as well and completely agree. The 6.5-300 is consistently 300-400 fps faster than the 6.5 prc at all distances. So out at long range hunting distances (400-500 yds for me) you get half the drop and 400-500 ft-lbs more energy.
@@jamessammann9183 yeah, there isn’t a perfect cartridge out there, but the 26 nos & the 6.5-300 were misrepresented in this video. Those two cartridges are incredibly efficient, which wasn’t portrayed in this video. The ammo is expensive (little less than $100 a box) and the barrel life is half of a 6.5 creed (even though for a hunter this shouldn’t matter that much), but in the context of elk sized game, it’s going to shoot flatter than most other hunting cartridges, bring incredible amounts of energy, and isn’t going to kill your shoulder. Not a lot of cartridges can compete with that.
@@TantheMan415 justin u are correct I have shot both love the 6.5 300 I sold mine cause of cost of ammo and got 6.5 prc but know I can't find ammo ....the 6.5 300 is by far the best 6.5 out there
The best one is the one you excluded. The 6.5x55 Swede (IMO) there’s a reason it’s been around for 125 years. But if I had to pick from the options I’d go with the 264 win mag.
I will vote for 6.5 PRC. I do think you shorted one very good option in the 6.5-284. Notoriously accurate, it had held the benchrest world accuracy record for a long time and falls right into this range. My buddy has one in a Savage action that makes .25" groups all day long with almost anything we put through it. Brass is less expensive also, if you can find some .284. ;)
6.5 PRC for the win!!! Side note, we have two of them and I just ordered a Fierce Carbon Rival at the hunt expo in 6.5 PRC as well. Would love to hear your thoughts on yours
EVERYBODY is not getting on the 6.5 bus. Been shooting the 7MM Rem Mag for 40 years, doing a lot of testing with the 150 Hornady ELD-X, getting 3,200 fps with IMR 4831. No reason to change
I love my 6.5-300 far more than my 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC. The numbers you're using for ballistics is not what weatherby shows for its 140 grain. 140 Accubond is 3300/3385 and the 140 A-frame is 3395/3583. I personally shoot the 156 Berger and the 127 LRX. They're sub .75 groups and I would shoot any game in North America with them.
@@adamweatherby4108 thank you and your team for turning an incredible product! I have grown to love the Weatherby brand and will only buy Weatherby rifles from this point on. I've had absolutely incredible results with them. My next one will be a Backcountry 2.0 carbon.
You need to change 300WSM to 300 Win Mag. Basically same performance but 300 Win Mag ammo is everywhere and tons of rifles chambered. Seriously the best elk, moose, bear, caribou, African plains game cartridge ever devised. So versatile from 150gr light loads to 210ish gr for heavy hitting. I cannot take cartridge wars seriously with this silliness going on. Is it because it does everything the 7mm Mag does, but better? Just a bit more recoil.
6.5 PRC is my vote...it's the lightest recoil for best performance and I can hand it to my daughter without reservation. It also has the best prices and options for factory backed hunting loads. If availability was not an issue right now people would have even less reservations. I think Midway USA has like 17 different hunting loads that will eventually be available which means this Caliber is massively backed, and handholds can easily get over 3000 FPS with tougher hunting bullets in the 140 grain and above for this type of speed. ELD-X is not tough enough in my experience.
Whose been able to find PRC ammo? Midway hasn’t had it for months. And everything on there is $3-$5 per round… not to mention it’s all been out of stock. If anyone finds it for sale, lemme know haha
Totally agree. .264" diameter bullets are appropriate for game up to about 450 pounds. Any heavier than that, you need to go up in diameter and bullet weight.
Already I miss the 6,5x55 SE. TBH there is a lot of great cartridges that are popular in europe and that you are missing out on. just saying. the whole 9,3 family alone.
@@ronlowney4700 Thanks. The 8mm Mauser alone. Yeah you dont shoot a coyote at 600 yards but thats not what it was supposed to do. its my all time favourite caliber for short range hunting. meaning up to 200 yards. It is great at laying down the law and laying anything on its side.
I’m with alaskaman! .264 Win Mag wins. Same reasons, plus you stacked the deck against the .264 Win with the conservative load data. However that may have been accurate out of a 24” barrel for your “soda can” to screw onto the end of it. And I do like the 6.5 RPM 2nd, as I’m sure Weatherby is very soon to move it over to the Vanguard line soon.
6.5 PRC. On a side note, my #1 rifle all time was a Weatherby Mark V in .270 Weatherby Mag. Even back then if you didn't reload, you really couldn't afford to shoot a Weatherby :) Great videos you are putting out, keep on being so awesome! Stan
6.5 PRC and 6.5 x 284 is the same performance for reloaders. I have loads that get 140 grain class bullets to 3100-3150 fps. The 140's don't shoot that accurate at that velocity though. 2950 fps is the sweet spot for accuracy. 6.5 Creedmoor is easy to load to 2800-2850 fps with 42. 0 grains of H4350 and it can be shot out of an AR-10 while fitting in the AR10 magazines. You get a comparable load in a .260 Remington and it won't fit in the magazine. 6.5 RPM is cool because you can rebarrel Grandpa's 30-06 and shoot off the same bolt. The 6.5 PRC requires a magnum boltface and the RP will beat the PRC by a bit. 26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherby are top fuel dragsters.
Everything is expensive now a days… but Since 6.5 creedmoor (About $1.50 cheapest as of 2/22) is NOT an option, I would go with 6.5 PRC (even though it’s about $5 per round!! ) FTW
A 140gr bullet going 3145fps out of a 6.5-300 is Extremely conservative, I have no problem getting a 143gr eld x going 3400 fps. Weatherby even offers factory loads for a 140gr pill at over 3300 fps.
Using N565 and ADG brass, I've been getting 2950-3150 fps with Berger 156's with 22-26" barrels and 6.5 PRC. accuracy node is usually 58.8-59.2gr N565. I'll take a PRC all day, every day over the others.
3145 fps for a 6.5-300 Weatherby shooting a 140 grain bullet? They offer 3 140grain factory loadings that are 3275- 3395 fps? Factory 127 Barnes lrx is doing 3530fps.
His velocities have been very off for a lot of rounds in this series and in general. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was like 50 fps but in many cases it has been more than 200 fps off for FACTORY ammo which does make a significant difference.
26 NOSLER gets my vote. There are shooting cartridges and hunting cartridges. 26 nosler is for hunting. Im running a 143 Eld x at 3350 Fps out of a 28 inch barrel. 300 rounds thus far and the barrel looks great still. No fire cracking looks like new.
Agreed. I zero my scope for 300 yards with my 6.5-300 and my 300 Weatherby Magnum using 190 grain Accubond L-Rs and 180 grain Partitions. My 300 Weatherby Magnum with 180 grain Partitions was my go-to Elk rig for decades. The last 6 Elk seasons, I've been using a 9.3x62 with 250 grain Accubonds. Overkill? A bit, but I like the rifle and the cartridge.
PRC hands down. Bough one almost a year ago and haven’t shot it yet…I can’t see paying the $100 plus for a box of ammo. Thoughts on when we might see it readily available at a reasonable price?
Does the manufacture see the same benefit with profit? Meaning, are they making less and selling high because it’s lining their pockets too? I get the supply shortages, but I gotta believe the manufactures can increase production above current levels. Or maybe I’m delusional…fair possibility.
The 6.5 PRC gets my vote. Keeps up with the bigger boys pretty well with significantly less recoil. Plenty of power out to moderate ranges. Like you, I think if you're going after game larger than deer you really need to step up to at least a 7mm.
PRC baby. I think since it is so popular, ammo available and selection will only get better, availability can’t get much worse. For me it checks a lot of boxes the others simply don’t. Barrel life, barrel length, versatility, rifle availability, and ammunition availability (in the future), it’s a sweet cartridge. Coyotes to Moose, it will do it.
6.5-300 wby factory load for 140gr nosler accubond is 3300 at muzzle and 3385 energy and with factory load 127LRX is over 3531fps at muzzle and 3516 energy nosler is right in its heals why did you put them so slow up there
Can't find the hyperlink to vote in the description so I'll just say it in here, my vote goes to the 6.5 PRC. It checks nearly every box I can think of and is what my next rifle will be chambered in, the increase in heavy 6.5 bullets puts it way out front in my opinion
This video and comment appears to be a commercial… But I agree, 6.5 PRC For the WIN! 🏆 …even though I just bought a 1916 Mauser (older Kimber Oregon) in 6.5x55mm Swede! 🤙🏼 Aloha!
6.5-300 Bee. Where are you getting velocity numbers for this?? The most popular cartridge is by far the 127grn Barnes at 3531fps on the factory ammo box, and it’s been reliably chronic right around there. My handloads are with the same bullet are probably faster still. It is THE flattest shooting big game cartridge. Period. That’s from your data…. Did you use 156grn bullets or something??
@@aksalaman4689 my Grandpa bought a 264 win mag when it first came out and always swore it was the most accurate rifle he ever shot. His go to hunting rifle for his whole life.
.264 WM, for the WIN! As cool as 6.5 PRC is.. It's simply too new, brass and ammo is outrageously priced! Also as you mentioned twice, your numbers for the .264 are off (kinda by a lot) There's book data with 140's at 3,100+ Most books don't show "hot-rodded" loads. Hornady 7th shows a 140gr @ 3,100 with 77.3gr of H870 in a 24" tube. I'll agree with not accepting 6.5 CM or 6.5 x55,57,.284.. But 6.5-06 would be the real winner, if it was on your list! Which begs the question.. Why isn't it? It's brass is practically free, it uses way less powder, and you can build a gun from any number of rifles that can be acquired dirt cheap!!
@@jasontassey9013 Go check again. Midway hasn’t had any PRC in stock for months. Every box is unavailable or on back order. Check ammoseek if you want to find sites that actually have stock of anything
@@jasontassey9013 Also not sure where you saw anything for $25. The cheapest I see on midway even if they weren’t out of stock is $27 for a box of 10..
H'mmmmm As of today at this time, 6.5 PRC is going for $5-$6 per round with only a very small selection and 6.5 RPM is $3.25 per round with a much larger selection
To me the 6.5’s are not for elk. Light sleek bullets do not give straight line penetration they deflect on big bones.you need heavy 30 caliber and up 338 would be better. But I do and have hunted deer and pronghorn with 6.5 Swede for over 30 years and love it.for a fast 6.5 right now I would pick 264 mag. No ammo for the 6.5 prc and you never know if it will be around in 10 years. The rest are never going to be main stream. You will always be able to find 7 rem.mag. Cases to make brass to feed the 264. But really just get a 270 and go hunting better yet have one built with a fast twist barrel and you will need no other rifle to kill everything but the biggest bears
Have to go with the 6.5 PRC as well. Pretty hard to beat the ballistics, low hitting recoil, and the flat shooting down range performance. I have a 6.5PRC that my wife and young son shoot with ease.
gotta go with the 264 win mag, same case as the 338 win mag, its been around for a long time and i can actually find ammo for it unlike a lot of others
I think the power of everything below the 26 nosler is being WAY overestimated. You get a lot more killing ability when using the overbores (which have their downsides of course) that I don’t feel was accurately highlighted in this video. For instance, taking factory loads of 6.5-300 vs 6.5 prc firing 140 gr accubond, it’s a 400 fps difference at the muzzle (3300 vs 2900), just under 400 fps at 200 yds (2909 vs 2536), and 300+ fps at 500 yds (2382 vs 2042). This translates to a 500 ft-lbs difference at 500 yds (1764 vs 1295). Drop is also halved at 500 yds (21.6 vs 48.8). The 6.5-300 is a monster and I love mine. That’s my vote.
I've used a 6.5 Gibbs for a long time. It's maximizes the case capacity of the parent 30-06 case. The 6.5 Gibbs will reach velocities within 100 FPS of a .264 Win Mag. I've used it with 90 Grain bullets on prairie dogs and 160 Grain bullets for Northern White tails. Extremely efficient and accurate. I wouldn't expect to see the Gibbs in this discussion but it would sure be interesting to see the .260, 6.5x55, and 6.5-06 numbers in your chart. As for the 6.5 Creedmoor...it's just an update on the 250-3000 Savage invented in the 1920s. The 6.5s best function is necking it down to 250 to feed my 250-3000.
Any chance you could do a vid on rifle accuracy verses shooter accuracy? I see videos on how lousy a rifle shoots and the shooter is standing shooting freehand. Then I see a guy claiming he is a really good shooter and his rifle is in a vice practically glued to a 500 pound table. I think some newer shooters could be mislead by that. I really enjoy your content. I have a tack driving A bolt in .280 Rem that shoots way better than me!!!
@@rex8958 I'm not speaking from experience but from research. The 26Nosler has a barrel life estimated at around 800 rounds where as the 6.5 PRC is estimated around 2k. This of course depends on the bullet weight, powder burn rate, speed of shot string ect. Buuuuut, 700 rounds vs 2000 rounds is enough of a difference to consider it for this "best all around" cartridge discussion. Unless the cost of rebarreling the rifle is not of any concern to the owner. For me, it's a factor, lol.
@@rodr5785 I dont have any personal experience either but from what I have read is that the PRC should get around 1200 which isnt much of a difference. Either way unless your shooting competition or like to go burn a few boxes of ammo at the range regularly barrel life shouldn't be a concern because you will probably never burn out that barrel.
.264 Win Mag is clearly the better choice. Big case, and maximum performance. Guns kick and make noise. Enough with recoil and suppressors. If you don't like it, shoot a bow. Modern barrels and creative handloading make the TWO SIX FOUR a sensible choice for deer, prongbuck, sheep. The 7 Mag is still the king for all around cartridge. If I had a tags for deer and elk on the same hunt, no question that the holy grail 7 with 160 or 175 gr Barnes TTSX would be unbeatable. It shoots well with 24" to 26" barrel. I load a .270 WSM to shoot a 140 grain bullet to shoot with the Seb'mn mag and like ammo. So, the .264 stacks up nicely with this. My other favorite is the .257 Roy. It will do anything the others will do on like game and down size to coyotes at great distances as well. The stated cals are traditional and lack "cool". But, if I am bound for the far reaches of this world and somehow lose my bullet box, I can go to Walmart and procure Remington Core-Lokt (at least used to could) and make them work. THAT'S COOL. 7 mm Remington Magnum is the King of the Mountain. Long live the KING.
6.5 PRC Ammo availability is #1 in my eyes as important then the 300-400 yd stats for my hunting needs. I own a 6.5 CM and like it but I’d do a PRC if I was to but another bolt gun.
Weatherby has mark v rifles available in 6.5rpm for list price at $1499-$1700 and real world prices of probably at least $200 less than that. And where are you finding your weatherby ammunition at those price’s I literally just yesterday seen the 6.5 rpm ammunition for $68.99 a box I’m not saying that’s cheap by no means but it’s not terribly more than any other high end quality ammunition right now. The only weatherby ammunition that I’ve seen over $100 a box has been the 30-378wby and up. But I do love your videos and agree with around 90% of your opinions and I’ve really been enjoying cartridge wars. I’m personally not a 6.5 fan but I vote the 6.5-300wby 😉
Grafs and Cabelas both had their 6.5 RPM ammo priced at $90-100 for a box of 20 when I looked a few months ago. I imagine you can find it cheaper online, but that typically means paying $10-20 for shipping. Grafs wanted $160 for a box of 378 WBY. Over-priced boutique ammo is a Weatherby specialty.
@@hochhaul I seen it in two different gun stores yesterday for less than $70 in Idaho. I haven’t even looked on line all the ammo I see on line is way overpriced.
I vote 6.5 prc. I love Weatherby, but the cost of shooting is so much higher that it takes some of the joy out of pulling the trigger when the cost of each round is floating around your brain as you are pulling the trigger.
I have a 6.5 creedmoor and love it. I would say .264win mag is my vote. Always wanted one just not enough guns chambering it that I would like. Keep up the videos I love them. As far as everyone stating incorrect ballistics, they are all ranges and anyone who reloads regularly and uses a chrono knows you don’t always match the reloading data that manufactures state. So many variables.
@@sheepdawg6946 I’ll add that I’ve never seen any 6.5prc ammo, brass, or specific reloading supplies EVER in person besides high dollar guns. I visit guns shops and shows frequently and still nothing
I think the voting on this is gonna be a landslide, so please just vote in the comments. I’ll read through and get a percentage.
It looks like 6.5 PRC is going to take the win on this round.
Still sad .270 win beat out the 6.8 Western previously. People voted with their hearts and with bias, when it was ballistically clear which round was more capable of long range hunting and precision.
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@@foubert45 How many rifles and ammunition available in west…..
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6.5 prc is an easy choice honestly unless you want maximum 6.5 then it’s 6.5-300.
Your velocity numbers are very off if they were all 140 gr bullets. The 6.5-300 should be up around 3400 fps and the Nosler should be around 75 fps less (> 200 fps faster) which makes it seem like your not getting as much as you are when stepping up.
Overall though these are all magnums and barrel life should be pretty similar so why not go big at that point and get a 6.5-300.
Because most people can’t afford to pay $100+ for boxes of 20. Even reloading those cartridges is significantly more expensive than other more common options. If my money was burning a hole in my pocket, I would go with those big boy rounds as well.
@@mouthbreather280 Yeah I reload so I dont really pay much attention to factory ammo prices. After the first box though you could probably reload that brass 5 or more times. It shouldn't be much more expensive than reloading any of the other cartridges if you dont count the brass because the only thing thats different would be the amount of powder which would only be maybe 20 cents more.
I'll just stick with my 300Roy 3250fps with a 180gr accubond, while y'all debate over who's wife has the best rifle to borrow to take hunting.🤣
@@randallingram7992 Not a fan of 6.5 in general and dont think it should really be used for much more than deer. I like the philosophy of there is no such thing as too dead. I also have a 300wby but it pretty much stays in the safe because I have a 340wby in a mark V.
@@Nick-sx6jm Funny, I see a ton of videos on YT of 6.5 PRC slaying elk and moose with a high degree of effectiveness. Relegating 6.5 to a "deer bullet" is beyond comical.
264 win mag all day. Atleast you can find it online somewhat cheap. The stores around me only ever have 5.56/.223, .308/7.62, 9mm and 45. 6.5 prc is always 4 to 5 dollars a round online. No way I'm paying that haha. I get if you are reloading it and it doesn't cost you that much, but buying online is a rip-off and it's never on the shelves around here.
@@ronlowney4700 Seriously, 270, 7mm Rem, 300 win are everywhere and cheap haha
@@ronlowney4700 haha yup!
6.5 PRC. I reload and am getting a 156 Berger EOL to move at 2917 with 1/2 moa. Tested what I call bullet performance on milk jugs at 400ish yards and the jugs were in a few pieces.
What are you using as your powder and how much?
Dang that’s fast!
Fill the jugs with raspberry jello for a more realistic view of performance. I fill pop bottle's for prairie dog practice!
I used this load on several big game animals including elk this past year. It performed extremely well at longer distances (500+ yards).
Whats barrel length on the rifle and what powder are you using?
My vote goes to the 264 win mag because it has served my father and I very well since 1959.
This is easy: 6.5 PRC without a doubt. It's by far the best balanced design. I am really looking forward to more availability on this side of the Atlantic. It will make a perfect mountain hunting cartridge in Europe where the 6.5's have always been among the most popular, especially when chambered in the traditional lightweight single shot rifles. No really big animals either on the higher peaks. I have never considered the 6.5 Creed because it is pretty much like the 6.5 Swede for hunting and I consider both as 300 yards hunting cartridges. Generally speaking the 6.5 mm is my preferred choice for game up to 250 lbs. On larger animals I prefer a bigger caliber. So the 6.5 PRC appears to fall in a nice spot for me.
6.5-300 is definitely my vote! Seems like the numbers were cherry picked a little bit. Using the 127 grain Barnes you have very different numbers that wouldn’t quite match the narrative. Felt like the 6.5-300 was undersold due to some bias. All great calibers though. I just prefer the versatility of the 6.5-300 myself. Thanks for the videos though. Always love to hear your opinion.
I read your comment after having posted mine. I said the same thing. He's under selling the 6.5-300. I've also said, this is all highly dependent on the application. Where are you hunting? Is it open terrain? If you're hunting White-Tails in an agricultural field with woods on all 4 sides and your longest shot may be 150 yards, then you don't need a 6.5-30 Weatherby, but if you're hunting Mountain Goats in British Columbia and you may not be able to get any closer than 600+ yards, you're most assuredly going to want the added reach of the 6.5-300.
@@JCTaylor21 Yeah, these numbers have been horribly cherry picked. The actual numbers on are closer to 3500 fps with the 127 lrx's. The stats would differ if the numbers weren't fudged to the narrative.
Weatherby simply makes the best
I did not even see a cherry 🍒 being picked but I sure could use a fresh cherry pie. 😆😁
Just sold my 6.5-300 paperweight of a rifle, what good is it if you can’t find/buy ammo to shoot it? And if you can, $6+ a round isn’t all that appealing
I know it's going to be at bottom in voting, but I'll stick with my 264 win mag. Rebarreling an existing rifle with the correct twist rate is still a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new rifle. But everyone has their own preferences, and more power to them.
I own a 6.5 Creedmoor and just can't see any reason I would get rid of it for the 6.5 PRC.
My main concern isn't getting maximum velocity or energy out of the round. It's having a good shooting rifle that can kill deer. The 6.5 Creedmoor does that. While it may not have the short range power of my 308 Win, it has longer maximum range and less recoil. It's not as fast as my 243 Win out to 400 yards, but after 400 yards it has more velocity due to better BC. It has more power than the 243 Win at all ranges.
Also, I can load it with a 95 grain VMax for varmints (3,300 fps), a 147 for deer and everything in-between. I also worked up a 123 grain SST light load that has a MV of 2,700 fps. Very light recoil that is perfect for a young shooter, but has enough power to kill deer out to 500 yards.
It's just a solid rifle that's good for small to medium game.
That's a well-thought-out comment.
The Creed is a great little cartridge when used within it's limitations. Looks like you have that figured out. I believe this cartridge war is about finding one that's good for elk, deer, and long-range targets. All while balancing recoil, cost, and availability. The Creed just lacks the power to be a reliable elk hunting round so it doesn't stand much of a chance here.
@@mqeqeshe1 What's interesting is that a lot of people have no problem using a 308 Win or 30-06 for elk, but don't realize that the 6.5 Creed actually has similar energy and better velocity.
For example, the common wisdom is that a round must have 1,500 ft-lbs of energy at impact to kill an elk efficiently and 1,900 fps of velocity to expand reliably.
A 308 Win shooting a 178gr ELD-X will hit 1,500 ft-lbs at about 425 yards. A 30-06 shooting that same bullet will run out of energy at 525 yards and the 143gr 6.5 Creedmoor will drop to 1,500 ft-lbs at 375 yards.
SO if you're not shooting over 375 yards, they will all do just fine.
Other people think that 1,000 ft-lbs if the limit.
Using the same ammunition as the last example;
the 308 is good to 475 yards (runs out of velocity)
the 30-06 is good to 550 yards (runs out of velocity )
the 6.5 Creedmoor is good to 600 yards (runs out of velocity, not energy).
It's also worth remembering that people do kill elk with bows and arrows.
So the 6.5 Creedmoor is plenty good to at least 375 yards.
@@gsh341 Nice comparison on all the numbers. I have no doubt the 6.5 Creedmoor is capable of killing an elk at 375 yards, I just think your odds of wounding or losing that animal is much higher when compared to a bigger caliber. The one number that you're missing is frontal area. A bullet transfers energy to it's target via the surface area on the leading end. The 308 Winchester has 36% more frontal area so its a lot more effective at transferring energy. If a 6.5 and a 30 caliber bullet arrive on target with 1500 ft lbs apiece they will not do equal damage. A bigger pipe flows more water, a bigger engine makes more power, and a bigger bullet transfers more energy. This is why most African countries require a minimum of .375 caliber for dangerous game. There are several .30 and .338 caliber cartridges that carry more energy than the 375 H&H but they lack the frontal area to efficiently convert that energy into tissue damage.
@@mqeqeshe1 those African countries often require the rounds to be non-expanding bullets so the round can penetrate deeper.
I'd say 6.5-300 all day I think it's the most versatile out of the line up. And the weatherby loaded 130 swift scirocco I believe it's the flattest shooting load around. Commercially available anyway
It also depends on the application. If you're hunting White-Tails in timber and your shots are going to be 70, 80, 130 yards, do you need a 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum? No. But if you're traveling to Tajikistan to hunt Markhor, you've spent 3 years planning the hunt and spent $150,000 on it, you sure as hell are going to want the 6.5-300 over any of the other options. You're going to want those 200-250 yards of added effective range the 6.5-300 is going to give you. Or if you're hunting Pronghorns in Eastern Wyoming where ranges can be 700-800 yards, you're going to want that 6.5-300 Weatherby.
Absolutely right. But if your going to spend the money anyways, the 6.5-300 will drop those whitetails at 70 very well too.
@@sakostwwy1903 I have a Grendel and a Swede.
The 6.5-300 would make My 6.5 Line up complete 😉👍
I think your velocity numbers may be off slightly. The 6.5 Weatherby RPM shoots 3075 FPS with a 140 grain Accubond in factory Weatherby ammo. Personally though, I would pick the 6.5-300 Wby. If you are going to shoot a magnum might as well go big! That thing is a laser!
I posted about that as well and completely agree. The 6.5-300 is consistently 300-400 fps faster than the 6.5 prc at all distances. So out at long range hunting distances (400-500 yds for me) you get half the drop and 400-500 ft-lbs more energy.
@@TantheMan415 it's a barell burner ..and 150 $a box take 6.5 all day long I sold my 6.5..300
@@jamessammann9183 they all are barrel burners, honestly majority of gun owners don’t need to worry about it
@@jamessammann9183 yeah, there isn’t a perfect cartridge out there, but the 26 nos & the 6.5-300 were misrepresented in this video. Those two cartridges are incredibly efficient, which wasn’t portrayed in this video. The ammo is expensive (little less than $100 a box) and the barrel life is half of a 6.5 creed (even though for a hunter this shouldn’t matter that much), but in the context of elk sized game, it’s going to shoot flatter than most other hunting cartridges, bring incredible amounts of energy, and isn’t going to kill your shoulder. Not a lot of cartridges can compete with that.
@@TantheMan415 justin u are correct I have shot both love the 6.5 300 I sold mine cause of cost of ammo and got 6.5 prc but know I can't find ammo ....the 6.5 300 is by far the best 6.5 out there
The best one is the one you excluded. The 6.5x55 Swede (IMO) there’s a reason it’s been around for 125 years. But if I had to pick from the options I’d go with the 264 win mag.
I will vote for 6.5 PRC. I do think you shorted one very good option in the 6.5-284. Notoriously accurate, it had held the benchrest world accuracy record for a long time and falls right into this range. My buddy has one in a Savage action that makes .25" groups all day long with almost anything we put through it. Brass is less expensive also, if you can find some .284. ;)
I agree. Even though I chose the 6.5 PRC the 6.5-284 should have been included in this war.
Problem with the 6.5-284 is there’s not enough standardization to the chambers
I have brass and dies for the 6.5-.284, but no rifle!
6.5 PRC for the win!!!
Side note, we have two of them and I just ordered a Fierce Carbon Rival at the hunt expo in 6.5 PRC as well. Would love to hear your thoughts on yours
EVERYBODY is not getting on the 6.5 bus. Been shooting the 7MM Rem Mag for 40 years, doing a lot of testing with the 150 Hornady ELD-X, getting 3,200 fps with IMR 4831. No reason to change
Check out the Barnes LRX.👍
no brainer... 6.5 PRC. Little light for elk IMO but would feel that way about any 6.5.
A 6.5x55 swedish in a strong modern action will whoop all over that creedmoor. It's my favorite chambering.
I love my 6.5-300 far more than my 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 PRC. The numbers you're using for ballistics is not what weatherby shows for its 140 grain. 140 Accubond is 3300/3385 and the 140 A-frame is 3395/3583.
I personally shoot the 156 Berger and the 127 LRX. They're sub .75 groups and I would shoot any game in North America with them.
Great points Jerry!
You should invite this guy up to Sheridan and give him a tour and let home shoot some real rifles. He is in UT.
@@adamweatherby4108 thank you and your team for turning an incredible product! I have grown to love the Weatherby brand and will only buy Weatherby rifles from this point on. I've had absolutely incredible results with them. My next one will be a Backcountry 2.0 carbon.
@@sakostwwy1903 I like the way you think my friend! I wouldn't even know how to act!
You need to change 300WSM to 300 Win Mag. Basically same performance but 300 Win Mag ammo is everywhere and tons of rifles chambered. Seriously the best elk, moose, bear, caribou, African plains game cartridge ever devised. So versatile from 150gr light loads to 210ish gr for heavy hitting. I cannot take cartridge wars seriously with this silliness going on. Is it because it does everything the 7mm Mag does, but better? Just a bit more recoil.
I love my 6.5-06, but given the options, I'd vote for 6.5 PRC.
Just bought a Weatherby meateater rifle in 6.5 prc sooo yeah I'd go 6.5prc.
6.5 PRC is my vote...it's the lightest recoil for best performance and I can hand it to my daughter without reservation. It also has the best prices and options for factory backed hunting loads. If availability was not an issue right now people would have even less reservations. I think Midway USA has like 17 different hunting loads that will eventually be available which means this Caliber is massively backed, and handholds can easily get over 3000 FPS with tougher hunting bullets in the 140 grain and above for this type of speed. ELD-X is not tough enough in my experience.
Whose been able to find PRC ammo? Midway hasn’t had it for months. And everything on there is $3-$5 per round… not to mention it’s all been out of stock. If anyone finds it for sale, lemme know haha
I think the .264 is the most sensible choice of these, although it's not my first choice for elk or anything bigger.
Totally agree. .264" diameter bullets are appropriate for game up to about 450 pounds. Any heavier than that, you need to go up in diameter and bullet weight.
Already I miss the 6,5x55 SE. TBH there is a lot of great cartridges that are popular in europe and that you are missing out on. just saying. the whole 9,3 family alone.
@@ronlowney4700 Thanks. The 8mm Mauser alone. Yeah you dont shoot a coyote at 600 yards but thats not what it was supposed to do. its my all time favourite caliber for short range hunting. meaning up to 200 yards. It is great at laying down the law and laying anything on its side.
I’m with alaskaman! .264 Win Mag wins. Same reasons, plus you stacked the deck against the .264 Win with the conservative load data. However that may have been accurate out of a 24” barrel for your “soda can” to screw onto the end of it. And I do like the 6.5 RPM 2nd, as I’m sure Weatherby is very soon to move it over to the Vanguard line soon.
If you look on weatherbys site theyre pushing a 140 in 6.5x300 at over 3250. With a 140g a frame theyre getting 3395
I said the same thing. Completely neutered the 6.5-300
6.5 PRC gets my vote. I have it in a Christian arms top with a Leupold 5 HD and it just shoots great.
No love for the 6.5x47. Almost as fast as the 6.5 creedmoor but easier to tune and a little kinder on recoil and barrel life.
6.5 PRC. On a side note, my #1 rifle all time was a Weatherby Mark V in .270 Weatherby Mag. Even back then if you didn't
reload, you really couldn't afford to shoot a Weatherby :) Great videos you are putting out, keep on being so awesome! Stan
6.5 PRC and 6.5 x 284 is the same performance for reloaders. I have loads that get 140 grain class bullets to 3100-3150 fps. The 140's don't shoot that accurate at that velocity though. 2950 fps is the sweet spot for accuracy. 6.5 Creedmoor is easy to load to 2800-2850 fps with 42. 0 grains of H4350 and it can be shot out of an AR-10 while fitting in the AR10 magazines. You get a comparable load in a .260 Remington and it won't fit in the magazine. 6.5 RPM is cool because you can rebarrel Grandpa's 30-06 and shoot off the same bolt. The 6.5 PRC requires a magnum boltface and the RP will beat the PRC by a bit. 26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherby are top fuel dragsters.
264 win mag takes my vote
Everything is expensive now a days… but Since 6.5 creedmoor (About $1.50 cheapest as of 2/22) is NOT an option,
I would go with 6.5 PRC (even though it’s about $5 per round!! ) FTW
Old school. 264 win mag.
A 140gr bullet going 3145fps out of a 6.5-300 is Extremely conservative, I have no problem getting a 143gr eld x going 3400 fps. Weatherby even offers factory loads for a 140gr pill at over 3300 fps.
Since the Swede didn’t make the cut I guess I’ll vote prc for all the practical reasons you already listed
Time to make the 7mm 08 more popular.
Hard to like the prc with the western out.
6.5 PRC seems the best compromise. if you want real magnum performance, i thinks step up to a 7mm or .308 cal
Using N565 and ADG brass, I've been getting 2950-3150 fps with Berger 156's with 22-26" barrels and 6.5 PRC. accuracy node is usually 58.8-59.2gr N565. I'll take a PRC all day, every day over the others.
Same…love being 3k+ with 156 but using H1000
I’m gonna go with the 6.5 PRC I have the gun and it shoots amazing.
6.5 PRC get my vote. I’ve seen it in action in person. Impressed was a huge understatement when it came down to it.
3145 fps for a 6.5-300 Weatherby shooting a 140 grain bullet? They offer 3 140grain factory loadings that are 3275- 3395 fps? Factory 127 Barnes lrx is doing 3530fps.
His velocities have been very off for a lot of rounds in this series and in general. It wouldn't be a big deal if it was like 50 fps but in many cases it has been more than 200 fps off for FACTORY ammo which does make a significant difference.
6.5 x300 weatherby all day. My rifle shots the 127 LRX at 3533 fps. Killed deer at 40 yards all the way to 402. All drop dead in their tracks.
Same experience for me!
26 NOSLER gets my vote. There are shooting cartridges and hunting cartridges. 26 nosler is for hunting. Im running a 143 Eld x at 3350 Fps out of a 28 inch barrel. 300 rounds thus far and the barrel looks great still. No fire cracking looks like new.
I have the 6.5 Weatherby, I like it because the” lrx” has 400yard shot without any sight adjustments needed. That’s pretty cool for hunting purpose!
Agreed. I zero my scope for 300 yards with my 6.5-300 and my 300 Weatherby Magnum using 190 grain Accubond L-Rs and 180 grain Partitions. My 300 Weatherby Magnum with 180 grain Partitions was my go-to Elk rig for decades. The last 6 Elk seasons, I've been using a 9.3x62 with 250 grain Accubonds. Overkill? A bit, but I like the rifle and the cartridge.
Bud, you are far from a hunter. Your videos are geared for click bait.
Been waiting for this one! Great that you included the Creedmore in there for comparison purposes, cheers
6.5 prc, because I know it's gonna win
PRC hands down. Bough one almost a year ago and haven’t shot it yet…I can’t see paying the $100 plus for a box of ammo. Thoughts on when we might see it readily available at a reasonable price?
Everyone’s voting for PRC because of availability yet it’s currently one of the most expensive rounds
It’s expensive because of scalpers taking advantage of the shortage
Does the manufacture see the same benefit with profit? Meaning, are they making less and selling high because it’s lining their pockets too? I get the supply shortages, but I gotta believe the manufactures can increase production above current levels. Or maybe I’m delusional…fair possibility.
What inch barrels where in the chart my 26 nosler shoots a 156 grain bullet at 3250
And I get same hole groups at 200 yards
The 6.5 PRC gets my vote. Keeps up with the bigger boys pretty well with significantly less recoil. Plenty of power out to moderate ranges. Like you, I think if you're going after game larger than deer you really need to step up to at least a 7mm.
6.5 PRC since the 6.5-284 Norma isn’t listed
PRC baby. I think since it is so popular, ammo available and selection will only get better, availability can’t get much worse. For me it checks a lot of boxes the others simply don’t. Barrel life, barrel length, versatility, rifle availability, and ammunition availability (in the future), it’s a sweet cartridge. Coyotes to Moose, it will do it.
6.5-300 wby factory load for 140gr nosler accubond is 3300 at muzzle and 3385 energy and with factory load 127LRX is over 3531fps at muzzle and 3516 energy nosler is right in its heals why did you put them so slow up there
Can't find the hyperlink to vote in the description so I'll just say it in here, my vote goes to the 6.5 PRC. It checks nearly every box I can think of and is what my next rifle will be chambered in, the increase in heavy 6.5 bullets puts it way out front in my opinion
This video and comment appears to be a commercial…
But I agree, 6.5 PRC
For the WIN! 🏆
…even though I just bought a 1916 Mauser (older Kimber Oregon) in 6.5x55mm Swede!
🤙🏼 Aloha!
6.5 PRC. Above middle ground performance with less recoil and powder.
6.5-300 Bee. Where are you getting velocity numbers for this?? The most popular cartridge is by far the 127grn Barnes at 3531fps on the factory ammo box, and it’s been reliably chronic right around there. My handloads are with the same bullet are probably faster still. It is THE flattest shooting big game cartridge. Period. That’s from your data…. Did you use 156grn bullets or something??
Staying "old school" and going with the 264 win mag with a 26" barrel.
Old school but outperforms the PRC
Haha then i introduce the .270 win (with 26” barrel Nosler specs)
@@boundarysentinel4181 I thought it was about the 6.5 only.
@@aksalaman4689 my Grandpa bought a 264 win mag when it first came out and always swore it was the most accurate rifle he ever shot. His go to hunting rifle for his whole life.
.264 WM, for the WIN! As cool as 6.5 PRC is.. It's simply too new, brass and ammo is outrageously priced! Also as you mentioned twice, your numbers for the .264 are off (kinda by a lot) There's book data with 140's at 3,100+ Most books don't show "hot-rodded" loads. Hornady 7th shows a 140gr @ 3,100 with 77.3gr of H870 in a 24" tube. I'll agree with not accepting 6.5 CM or 6.5 x55,57,.284.. But 6.5-06 would be the real winner, if it was on your list! Which begs the question.. Why isn't it? It's brass is practically free, it uses way less powder, and you can build a gun from any number of rifles that can be acquired dirt cheap!!
6.5 PRC has all the benefits with none of the drawbacks. It would be hard to choose anything else. 6.5 PRC gets my vote.
Barrel life?
Poor barrel life. $5 or $6 per round. That’s a hard sell when there’s other options that are more capable, more available, and cheaper.
Barrel life is right up there with the 270 Win. $5-$6 per round? Haven’t seen that. A quick search on MidwayUSA shows a box of ammo from $25 to $95.
@@jasontassey9013 Go check again. Midway hasn’t had any PRC in stock for months. Every box is unavailable or on back order. Check ammoseek if you want to find sites that actually have stock of anything
@@jasontassey9013 Also not sure where you saw anything for $25. The cheapest I see on midway even if they weren’t out of stock is $27 for a box of 10..
People buy into Hornady's marketing to the point they'll vote the 6.5 PRC in over the .280 AI. Which is just a travesty, but I'm predicting it now.
By "shortish" you mean medium action. For a custom rifle it's fairly common. I'd go prc
H'mmmmm
As of today at this time, 6.5 PRC is going for $5-$6 per round with only a very small selection and 6.5 RPM is $3.25 per round with a much larger selection
.264 Win Mag gets my vote
To me the 6.5’s are not for elk. Light sleek bullets do not give straight line penetration they deflect on big bones.you need heavy 30 caliber and up 338 would be better. But I do and have hunted deer and pronghorn with 6.5 Swede for over 30 years and love it.for a fast 6.5 right now I would pick 264 mag. No ammo for the 6.5 prc and you never know if it will be around in 10 years. The rest are never going to be main stream. You will always be able to find 7 rem.mag. Cases to make brass to feed the 264. But really just get a 270 and go hunting better yet have one built with a fast twist barrel and you will need no other rifle to kill everything but the biggest bears
Have to go with the 6.5 PRC as well. Pretty hard to beat the ballistics, low hitting recoil, and the flat shooting down range performance. I have a 6.5PRC that my wife and young son shoot with ease.
For those thinking about a new short barrel elk rifle suppressed. 6.5PRC or why not 308 win. What is the true limitation of 308?
Sig Cross 308…..
gotta go with the 264 win mag, same case as the 338 win mag, its been around for a long time and i can actually find ammo for it unlike a lot of others
.264 win
All the prc votes, good luck finding ammo and brass . .264 win mag can use 7mm rem mag brass ; it’s everywhere…..
6.5 PRC. Seems like the sweet spot in cost, performance and rifle length/weight. Certainly helps that it is a relatively popular cartridge right now.
6.5 PRC. Of those cartridges, I think that's the best "bang" for your "buck".
(See what I did there... :D?)
I think the power of everything below the 26 nosler is being WAY overestimated. You get a lot more killing ability when using the overbores (which have their downsides of course) that I don’t feel was accurately highlighted in this video. For instance, taking factory loads of 6.5-300 vs 6.5 prc firing 140 gr accubond, it’s a 400 fps difference at the muzzle (3300 vs 2900), just under 400 fps at 200 yds (2909 vs 2536), and 300+ fps at 500 yds (2382 vs 2042). This translates to a 500 ft-lbs difference at 500 yds (1764 vs 1295). Drop is also halved at 500 yds (21.6 vs 48.8). The 6.5-300 is a monster and I love mine. That’s my vote.
6.5 PRC is just a better designed cartridge, the others are just built for speed. But you can still get velocities over 3100 with a 140.
I've used a 6.5 Gibbs for a long time. It's maximizes the case capacity of the parent 30-06 case. The 6.5 Gibbs will reach velocities within 100 FPS of a .264 Win Mag. I've used it with 90 Grain bullets on prairie dogs and 160 Grain bullets for Northern White tails. Extremely efficient and accurate. I wouldn't expect to see the Gibbs in this discussion but it would sure be interesting to see the .260, 6.5x55, and 6.5-06 numbers in your chart. As for the 6.5 Creedmoor...it's just an update on the 250-3000 Savage invented in the 1920s. The 6.5s best function is necking it down to 250 to feed my 250-3000.
It's all cherry picked bs...
Any chance you could do a vid on rifle accuracy verses shooter accuracy? I see videos on how lousy a rifle shoots and the shooter is standing shooting freehand. Then I see a guy claiming he is a really good shooter and his rifle is in a vice practically glued to a 500 pound table. I think some newer shooters could be mislead by that. I really enjoy your content. I have a tack driving A bolt in .280 Rem that shoots way better than me!!!
6.5 PRC!
It is solid in all categories and has a reasonably good barrel life.
Once you get that fast in any 6.5 cartridge barrel life isn’t going to change much between rounds
@@rex8958 I'm not speaking from experience but from research.
The 26Nosler has a barrel life estimated at around 800 rounds where as the 6.5 PRC is estimated around 2k.
This of course depends on the bullet weight, powder burn rate, speed of shot string ect.
Buuuuut, 700 rounds vs 2000 rounds is enough of a difference to consider it for this "best all around" cartridge discussion. Unless the cost of rebarreling the rifle is not of any concern to the owner. For me, it's a factor, lol.
@@rodr5785 I dont have any personal experience either but from what I have read is that the PRC should get around 1200 which isnt much of a difference. Either way unless your shooting competition or like to go burn a few boxes of ammo at the range regularly barrel life shouldn't be a concern because you will probably never burn out that barrel.
Complains about Weatherby Rifle price....holds up a $3K Fierce rifle at start of video. bahahahaha classic
6.5x55 is my favorite 6.5 cartridge. With that being said, I'm going with the 6.5 PRC as the most versatile of the modern 6.5's.
.264 Win Mag is clearly the better choice. Big case, and maximum performance. Guns kick and make noise. Enough with recoil and suppressors. If you don't like it, shoot a bow. Modern barrels and creative handloading make the TWO SIX FOUR a sensible choice for deer, prongbuck, sheep.
The 7 Mag is still the king for all around cartridge. If I had a tags for deer and elk on the same hunt, no question that the holy grail 7 with 160 or 175 gr Barnes TTSX would be unbeatable. It shoots well with 24" to 26" barrel.
I load a .270 WSM to shoot a 140 grain bullet to shoot with the Seb'mn mag and like ammo. So, the .264 stacks up nicely with this.
My other favorite is the .257 Roy. It will do anything the others will do on like game and down size to coyotes at great distances as well.
The stated cals are traditional and lack "cool". But, if I am bound for the far reaches of this world and somehow lose my bullet box, I can go to Walmart and procure Remington Core-Lokt (at least used to could) and make them work. THAT'S COOL.
7 mm Remington Magnum is the King of the Mountain. Long live the KING.
6.5 PRC Ammo availability is #1 in my eyes as important then the 300-400 yd stats for my hunting needs. I own a 6.5 CM and like it but I’d do a PRC if I was to but another bolt gun.
Same
Weatherby has mark v rifles available in 6.5rpm for list price at $1499-$1700 and real world prices of probably at least $200 less than that. And where are you finding your weatherby ammunition at those price’s I literally just yesterday seen the 6.5 rpm ammunition for $68.99 a box I’m not saying that’s cheap by no means but it’s not terribly more than any other high end quality ammunition right now. The only weatherby ammunition that I’ve seen over $100 a box has been the 30-378wby and up. But I do love your videos and agree with around 90% of your opinions and I’ve really been enjoying cartridge wars. I’m personally not a 6.5 fan but I vote the 6.5-300wby 😉
Grafs and Cabelas both had their 6.5 RPM ammo priced at $90-100 for a box of 20 when I looked a few months ago. I imagine you can find it cheaper online, but that typically means paying $10-20 for shipping. Grafs wanted $160 for a box of 378 WBY. Over-priced boutique ammo is a Weatherby specialty.
@@hochhaul I seen it in two different gun stores yesterday for less than $70 in Idaho. I haven’t even looked on line all the ammo I see on line is way overpriced.
I vote 6.5 prc. I love Weatherby, but the cost of shooting is so much higher that it takes some of the joy out of pulling the trigger when the cost of each round is floating around your brain as you are pulling the trigger.
The PRC is literally twice the cost…
Think I’m leaning 6.5prc,.. though in this group I have no experience on this list,.. unless I can vote 6.5x55 sweed then doing that one
I actually want a 6.5-284. That would be sweet.
This is the direction I went, had a Tikka 22-250 that I changed to a 6.5-284. Thing is sweet.
@@michaellairdsub Yeah, I have a 1971 Winchester model 70 in 22-250 I want rebarreled into this caliber. What barrel did you end up going with?
@@inupik23 I got a Benchmark #3, 7.5 twist, finished at 21" so I can run a suppressor.
My go to whitetail gun is a custom mauser chambered in 6.5x55 Swede that’s my creedmoor👍👍
Can’t argue against the 6.5 prc for this round and gets my vote
But at 5 or 6 bucks per round its just not practical
I know you like 6.5 PRC best… me too… but only from a couch perspective.. never shot one!😆
6.5 prc is the clear choice for me. Like you said performance and availability 🤷♂️ what else could you want
6.5 PRC (I guess, you missed to mention the barrel life of different cartridges)
I have a 6.5 creedmoor and love it. I would say .264win mag is my vote. Always wanted one just not enough guns chambering it that I would like. Keep up the videos I love them. As far as everyone stating incorrect ballistics, they are all ranges and anyone who reloads regularly and uses a chrono knows you don’t always match the reloading data that manufactures state. So many variables.
I can't find 6.5 PRC for less then $5.00 a round either. I ended up with a Creedmoor cause of that.
6.5 PRC gets my vote. Great availability in guns and hopefully again soon in ammo. Well rounded cartridge. Nothing to dislike.
MY 6.5-284 SHOOTS A 140 GR BERGER AT 3175 FPS. WITH RETUMBO AND LAPUA BRASS
6.5 PRC, price and availability for rifles and ammunition give it the win.
I have NOT been able to find 6.5 PRC ammo nor powder for almost a year now.
@@sheepdawg6946 I’ll add that I’ve never seen any 6.5prc ammo, brass, or specific reloading supplies EVER in person besides high dollar guns. I visit guns shops and shows frequently and still nothing
The PRC ammo is the most expensive ammo in this line up by a long shot..
6.5 PRC has to get the nod today. Sure wish ammunition supply would even out with the demand.
Because I’m not shooting outside of hunting the 6.5 PRC seems more attractive
I’m surprised anyone is voting for the PRC with the cost of ammo so much higher than the rest of those options