HEAD-TO-HEAD: 6.5 PRC / 7mm PRC / 300 PRC
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With the announcement of the new 7mm PRC cartridge, we’re comparing it to 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC to see how it stacks up!
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Great vid Gavin. 7 PRC is awesome. Mild enough for short barrels, enough powder capacity to hit that magical 3,000fps with heavy bullets, it has all the ballistic advantages of the 284 caliber, and it’s a modern case built for reloading today’s bullets.
We’re gonna be talking about this one for decades to come.
Totally agree Jim I am pretty excited about this new cartridge.
Yea like why didn't it catch on? I know about the PRC lineup. The WSMs, SAUMs, RUMs, Noslers, RCMs, Rugers...They all live short lives, fade away and the older cartridges stay on their thrones. The worst thing is the promoters of these cartridge lines just stop producing guns and ammo for them. I have a few. Try to find ammo. I have or had the 8mm Remmag, 7mm RUM, 375 and 416 Rugers. Since covid the ammo for the 375 has gone up $30 and the 416 up about the same. 416 Ruger ammo is hard to find. Remington does not list factory ammo for the RUMs or SAUMs except for the 300 RUM. So go get the new gimick cartridges but you better handload.
I laugh at all these new little rounds, long range guys don't mess with this crap nor do special forces! .300 Norma Mag .338 Norma Mag or the real long shooters are going the BIG Cheytac's these are over priced BS IMO only new round that will blow up huge is one people arent even looking at much but its actually picking up steam its the 6.8 Western its hitting 17% harder at 500 yards then the 6.5 PRC and 34% harder then the 6.5 Creedmore! The 6.8 Western is the updated bad boy deer round .270 WSM!!!
@@miketyson8933 I have a 6.8 Western just got it back from the smith hoping to get it sighted in before deer season in a few weeks.
@@miketyson8933 Uh...special forces not presently using a brand new cartridge is how you choose dismiss a cartridge? Okay. You do you. But ballistics don't lie. These new PRC cartridges are superior to the legacy cartridges they were designed to improve upon. They will succeed and will shrink the market share of comparable legacy cartridges.
Can’t wait for 270 PRC and PRC broadheads. Maybe the new PRC bbq cookbook.
There already is a 270PRC it’s called the 6.8 Western. 😂
What, no .22LR PRC? It takes rabbits at 110yds..
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@@johnathanreckrodt2937 lol yeah but not by Hornady.
@@perrinayebarra nope by wildcaters!
I’m super happy with my 300prc, its been very tolerable to developing. Had more fun building up a load for it than any one I’ve done!
7 mm PRC looks like a great round. Basically an updated 7mm Rem Mag capable of shooting the heavier, high BC bullets slightly faster. The rifle chambers are supposed to have tighter tolerances as well. The barrel twist rates are 1 in 8" versus 1 in 9.5" used on most 7 mm Rem Mag rifles. I really hope the 7mm PRC takes off and becomes popular for years to come. The 7mm Rem Mag is proven and lasted the test of time. Not jumping on the 7mm PRC until I see how well it passes the test of time.
Awesome, Gavin. I'd really love to see a recoil comparison between the 7PRC and some competitors and reference points (7RM, 300WM, .30-06), especially with your measurement capabilities. This is a great development and I'm looking forward to your other content!
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Plus the 300WSM
I have the 6.5 PRC and it’s been great, I have a 300 PRC and it’s AMAZING with factory ammo. I’ve decided to build the 7 and I have no doubt it will also be great, an all around rifle.
Great video as always. I'm excited about this one. This looks like exactly what I've been wanting for years.
My 28 Nosler takes the place of the 7mm PRC. I absolutely love what it does with 168 grain Nosler AccuBond LR bullets, and Retumbo magnum powder.
I opted for the 300 PRC as my foray into long range hunting beyond 500 yards. Being a handloader gets me excited about the possibilities available with brass encased laser rays, and venison recipes.
It burns barrels like crazy, but 8 like it also
I’ve got a 300 prc for the fact you stated, heavy hitter! Especially if you load them nice heavy bullets
Run the numbers at elk altitude for Mountain West region in the US, and the downrange ballistics change considerably. It’s one of the most overlooked realities when getting an idea about performance. We don’t see elk below 7000ft that often. They sometimes come down to the edges of farmland to eat, but typically stay in the 8,000-9,500ft elevations in Wasatch and Rockies at least. Density Altitude is super thin up in those elevations, great for LR ballistics, so the 6.5 PRC will still have a lot more speed and energy than down in the thick air at sea level. 7mm PRC and 300 PRC get even better as well.
Good point. Altitude/Air Density makes a big difference.
@@barryboyd7973 First thing I look at on my Kestrel is barometric pressure and temperature before making inputs into my program. I don’t ever see higher than 25.4” Hg unless I go out of State.
One of the main range complexes I love to shoot at is usually 23.4”.
7000ft 23.1”
8000ft 22.2”
9000ft 21.4”
These are the altitude bands I find myself in when in elk country in the Rockies or Uintahs.
Let me introduce you to a small town named Ponoka, Alberta, Canada. Elevation avg 800 Meters (2620 Feet). Ponoka means 'elk' in Blackfoot.
You're correct about the ballistics at altitude though ;)
@@foonus406 There are definitely elk to be found at lower elevations in North America, but the majority of them have migrated up into higher elevations for us in the US. Moose and elk can be found at lower elevations in the Great Lakes region, and moose in New England, which are all close to sea level. Woods are thick there, so not a lot of long range opportunities like in the West.
@@LRRPFco52 elk are also hunted around Manhattan, KS and Lawton, OK, both of which are about 1200' in elevation.
I had my gunsmith turn my Remington 700 magnum action into a 300 PRC hunting rifle and all I have to say is. WOW!!! Now it's a toss up between my bolt action 8.6 blackout and my new 300 PRC for a large game hunting rifle. I'll find out next year when I head up to Alaska. Awesome video
6.8 western is where it’s at for me but the 7mm prc is pretty awesome
I have a 6.8 and was contemplating a 7 PRC also…then I thought why. I just wish the 6.8 got more factory ammo options. I’m from Montana and lived near HSM and have been hounding them about loading it but I think Browning and Winchester aren’t allowing anyone else yet. I know Hornady never will but I wish HSM, and Federal would do it.
Thanks for putting this out! Very helpful
Thanks for this video. I'm just beginning to research the PRC cartridges and this was a very thorough overview.
So nice you put this info out for us shooters
Really well presented information and comparison between the three.
It looks like the 7PRC pushing a 168gr barnes LRX to 3050fps is going to be a darn fine Moose/Elk cartridge... pretty much matches the ballistics of a 300WSM pushing a 175gr barnes LRX to 3100fps..
This new 7PRC, like the 300WSM is a sweet spot cartridge... and will likely become very popular in F-class and in hunting.
The 300 WSM is sweet. Loved mine. Sold it for a 6.5 PRC setup. I think my next gun will either be a 300 WSM build or 7 PRC build. I like the short action but the 7 PRC has some nice high BC bullets for long range shooting. It’s a toss up.
@@LSC2001 Interesting that you want to go back up in caliber after the 6.5PRC… that is a very efficient low recoiling cartridge that guys seem to be having success with on Elk…. Lately I have been very intrigued by the 280AI with the 168gr Barnes LRX bullet… It is an ultra efficient combination. Cheers!
Great video. Keep em coming!!!
I've always believed the 6.5PRC was the ultimate mountain rifle cartridge. The rest are good marketing.
Don't know where this dude is getting his numbers, but just check backfire's site for what I would consider a more accurate/objective comparison. Less drop from the 6.5 over range. It's just physics.
A new cartridge isn't just a boon to rifle and ammunition manufacturers. Those whose business is based on views related to covering said ammunition and rifles are equally benefited by it.
Not saying I won't pay attention and be interested, but everyone should do their own independent research to make their own objective assessment.
Thanks for the info. Great job!
Top video Gavin with good information
Still waiting for tikka to come out with a 7mm PRC
I already have several factory rifles, custom rifles or at least barreled actions in some of the more popular 6.5mm's and 7mm's SAAMI and Wildcats. When I heard about this cartridge I got really excited and knew at minimum I was going to get a really nice barreled action built to drop into one of my chassis but now I'm going to get a hunting rifle built or I'll buy a factory one as well. I think this cartridge is going to be a huge hit in the long range competition world along with the hunting because it checks so many boxes. I can't wait to get my hands on everything to start shooting and tinkering...
Excellent information & content !! Well done !!
This is an outstanding video. SUBSCRIBED!
New drinking game! Take a shot every time he says PRC.
I did, I’m on my way to the hospital now.
I did this without even knowing it. Cheers!
Its like Scarface and the F word,
Good video on comparing the three..
The cost of a new rifle makes deciding difficult.. this helps. thanks
Thanks for the great video the 7 prc will be my next purchase
It would be neat to see a comparison of 7mm, like ballistics and recoil, pros and cons, such as 7mmPRC, 7mmREMmag, 7mmSAUM, etc.
I agree!... it's hard to find anything for 7 saum.
I love the 7mm. I actually waiting to buy my first bergara till the chamber it in 7PRC I’m completely in love with that round
The 7MM PRC is the modern version of a 7MM REM. I expect it will be a big hit. For North American game, it might just be the ultimate cartridge. Every cartridge is a trade off between recoil and down range performance. The 7MM hits a sweet spot and this cartridge looks like it will outperform all other 7MM’s by being the closest to the optimum trade-off. It might take a while for rifle and ammunition manufacturers to fill the void, but when they do, this is going to be a very popular caliber.
If you have a 7MM REM already, no need to sell it or anything. But, this would be a something to consider for a future purchase or build. Berger really changed everything with its longer high BC bullets. This 7MM PRC is just one more example of a new cartridge built to take full advantage of long, high BC bullets.
300prc is the best for sure. I reload mine at 75 cents a round. Not bad.
Would you be kind enough to share with me to the set up you use for reloading the 300 prc?Would love to do that for mine
You nailed it by saying the 7prc is the all around best option.
3100fps with a 180 grain & .800 BC.
Oh my stars. Manageable recoil and not terrible on barrels. Looking great from where I sit. Will I switch my 7mm Rem Mag and buy or build a new 7PRC? No, not now. But I am already talking to one of my sons for his first big boy rifle. Looking forward to more vids. Thanks
Your point about COL and "drop in ability" is a very good point. I think one of the biggest reasons 6.5 Creedmoor managed to get so ubiquitous so quickly is that the only thing needed to convert your .308 Win to 6.5 CM is a barrel, and now Hornady has done basically the same thing for .300 Win Mag owners.
That was the allure to .260 Rem before 6.5CM and 6.5x47 Lapua came along. 6.5x47L is a very well-designed cartridge with an extremely efficient case that can take a beating.
@@LRRPFco52 6.5x47 my favorite cartridge of all time.
Hey Gavin you’re the best brother, you do fantastic informative videos God bless you God bless America and God bless the republic
Awesome video! I love my 6.5 PRC. However I wish I had waited on the 7 mm PRC. It seems like the perfect blend of bullet weight, speed, and power. The fact that the 6.5 PRC was a short action sold me on it at the time though. Dang, now I need a new gun. 🤣🤯🤠
Sell me the 6.5 prc and buy you a 7prc 😂
I love what I see on the ballistics of the 7 PRC but I wish that it didn't require the long action, that's what makes the 6.5 PRC so appealing to most initially. But the idea of not needing a .30cal boom stick for Elk and other big game with the 7 PRC is appealing. I am curious how the felt recoil compares amongst the three and alongside of their peers. I think my next custom just might be a 7 PRC so long as there are great factory ammo options to choose from.
I love the old calibers. But the new ones are a lot of fun. There is nothing better to reach out and touch someone. 7prc is the next one I’m saving up for. As long as my wife says it’s ok. Haha
7 prc is gunna be great. Hopefully we don’t see any more clicker issues! Now we just have to wait for brass availability to support it. I will keep my 7 saum but may rebarrel to 7 prc once it’s shot out. I love my 300 prc. I’ll keep my cm over the 6.5 version though
We shot four elk with the 6.5 PRC this year. Our load is a 127gr Barnes LRX at 3150 fps. I shot my elk at 515 yards and it was a pass through. It’s ridiculously accurate too. That 7 PRC looks amazing though.
What rifle did u use
@@cameronhead4086 We have the Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic Green.
Nice, I'm running a 130 grain barnes ttsx solid copper 308 bullet at 3150, it may not have the bc or sectional density but its like lightning on elk within 500 yards
I have used the 6.5 prc and 300 prc. I very excited to try the 7mm prc as I think it’s a winner for me. Better ballistics than the 7mm rem mag and 300 win mag with less recoil than the 300 win mag and 300 wsm. I think the 7mm prc is going to be the best of the 3.
Very good video
Currently looking at my next caliber. 40 inches less drop is very tempting.
Thank you 😊
I'll take one of each.....these rounds all fall exactly where I want these calibers speed at. And looking from the reloading data and bullet selection and availability, I'd say the prc lineup is a pretty sweet package.
I chose the 6.5 PRC in a Ruger American, which is fitted in a long action. I really like that for reloading. I see so many people going on about how we don't need new cartridges and how the .270 is just like a 6.5 PRC and so on. I don't know about everyone else, but I like buying new rifles, and having them all chambered in the same thing is ridiculous, in my opinion. I love a .270, but I like new guns, and with a new gun, I want a new cartridge. The 6.5 PRC is just a really sweet round for whitetail deer.
Cool video 👍
Put that PRC line Versus the Sherman Line. .......
The ballistics comparison isn't really meaningful if their muzzle velocities aren't equal, and no BCs are shown🤷♀the cartridge literally gives the bullet only a velocity, nothing else. And the wind drift and drop will depend on the velocity and the BC. The 7 prc looks great, but saying that the it is superior to 2 other cartridges based on ballistics where it starts at a higher velocity just doesn't make sense. Based on this logic, you can neck down some larger cartridge, like the 300 prc, to 7mm, and put the same projectile in it as is used for the 7prc in the video, then it will have "superior" ballistics to the 7prc
Thanks Gavin,
Am in the decision process of getting either a 7 or 300 PRC for hunting with a 24” carbon barrel.
I already have a 300 with a 27” bull barrel but that thing is huge with a suppressor…
Difficult decisions as I already have dies and Brass for the 300 PRC…
But the 7 has awesome ballistics…
But have to consider that we will have a lead ban in near future and a 190gr is a lot more bullet than a 160gr…
Right so 8.6 PRC for 338 bullets and 9.5 PRC for a 375. Those will be be the fall 2023 and then 2024 announcements.
VERY GOOD VIDEO
The 7 PRC will surely be the pick of those three, uses a standard long action instead of a magnum length action for the 300 PRC.
Maybe in 5+ years once the commoners can find ammo and factory rifles on the shelf with any sort of regularity. 6.5 PRC is a challenge, 300 PRC is a unicorn.
Considering 90+% of the “long” action rifles made today will already accept the 3.600” length of the 300PRC, it was a waste for Hornady to use the shorter case to fit into a Winchester based 3.300” length.
@@pogeegitz psh 300prc is not hard to find at all. Can order it right to your house from 1000 different places.
rather have the 300 prc. I love mine and can find components mostly everywhere. that said 7mm prc is awesome. I wouldn't say it's "better" just different
@hunter s It's worth it after you have a couple boxes of brass. I reload for 75 cents a round.
would love to see the 300 compared to the others, but with the 212 grain projectile instead.
Love all three and own all three
Great info! Thanks! ... FYI -- Velocity graph looks off from table.
The bad thing is that Hornady ( and Ruger and Remington and Winchester ) introduce new cartridges that after a decade die out. The previous cartridges survive and continue on.
Could be some truth to that but, considering that we are now in a whole new century, with more new gun owners entering the sport buying there first real “magnum action” rifle, or hanging up the hammy down rifle to preserve as an heirloom/ collectible, Hornady may have timed this right. Think of all those first time gun buyers the last couple years, Millions, many will probably go for having a whole set of firearms to play in all the different shooting sports. so once you get bored with your soft 556, and find places to shoot further, and realize how much your likely to shoot your “Magnum” each year with all your other plinkers. Than an expensive barrel burning new cartridge that has the best all around performance for “magnum” rifle stuff will Hopefully stick around til the year 3022.
Also I’m pretty sure this is based on the Ruger .375 case which IS replacing the H&H .375 case. it’s time to drop the belt.
I am 100% sure I will have one. This is just a must have cal! Could U pls do video with recommended loads and bullets, also other than ELD and some hunting bullets.
I think I want a Tikka Tac A1 in 7 PRC for Xmas? Tikka?...... Tikka? you there?......
I've got to get one!!!!!!
I'd love to see the 6.5 prc and 7mm prc and the 300 prc against the 28 nosler please
Got to have one
This 7mm PRC looks very promising.
The shape of cartridges will give another boost in efficiency. The gases need to compress within and exit the cartridge with consideration of the compression waves. Abrupt angle changes always cause reflections and standing waves, even with electricity and EM waves.
Great video. The 6.5 PRC has about the same case capacity as a 270 Winchester. If you shoot a factory rifle with factory ammo, the 6.5 PRC will beat the 270 at any distance. The same goes for the 7 PRC and the 7 Rem Mag. Very similar capacity and bullets, but the 7 PRC will beat the 7 Rem Mag at any range. It carries on for the 300 PRC and 300 Win Mag. I'm a big fan of the 7 Rem Mag. If I didn't have a large 7mm, I would be looking for a 7 PRC. I have three 6.5 PRC rifles. Two of them are built on short-action Savage actions because the mag is longer than most other factory rifles. It required no mods. I just screwed on the new barrel and set the headspace. I used McGowan barrels and they shoot outstanding.
You are one of two people online that will admit reality about the 6.5 prc vs 270 win. One is you and the other is me.
Just picked up the 300. Bad Ass. Gonna load it real light with heavies so it doesnt burn the barrel yet still delivers WSM performance. All that excess velocity in the 7mm will burn it out faster.
257 Weatherby 100 gr @ 3600 MV. At 100 yards over 3200 fps.
The 7PRC sales, and custom builds are going to be crazy. Start looking for brass now!!😉
In the Velocity comparison you have a graph for the energy. The Chart is correct but graph shows the same graph as when you do the energy.
I was looking a a 7 SAUM or Sherman Short build, but with what I have “laying” around and this being a SAAMI cartridge I’m leaning towards the 7MM PRC build. Question would be how would accurate would lighter projectiles be with the 1:8 twist? Looking forward to components coming out in up coming months….hopefully not years!
I think we need a PRC vs WSM comparison.
Please add 6.8 western in that debate
Nope... VS Sherman Line up
It's exciting to see the performance of 7 PRC but is it worth the wait as ammo supplies have to ramp up? There are few companies, such as Mossberg, already building 7 mm PRC but not so readily available. As opposed to 7 mm Rem Mag, which is more available and I seen someone take an elk at 1,378 yards with a 7 mm RM.
300PRC FTW 💀🇺🇸
I'm trying to pick between 300 PRC and 300 win mag. I'm leaning towards 300 win mag due to reduced ammo cost and high availability. We'll see though. The 300 PRC is a wonderfully optimized cartridge.
The various bergara HMR series rifles are a great deal for such high performance.
The PII Factor: "Preoccupation with Inconsequential Increments"
That’s a thing too.
I recently picked up a Fierce Rifle in 300 PRC. Amazingly soft shooting cartridge with almost 1500 ft lbs of energy at 1000 yards. It’s the king in my book.
Ha, in what universe is a 300PRC an "amazingly soft shooting cartridge" A 300 Winmag is considered a stout shooting cartridge and the PRC has 13% more recoil velocity. 😂
@@hardcoreish no I’m very serious…. The factory muzzle brake on it is amazing! I was planning on getting a custom brake made like I did on my WinMag but not needed at all. I’m very serious when I say my 300 PRC feels like my .223 bolt action recoil. Dead Serious. I have a .300 WSM WITHOUT a brake at hate shooting it… kicks like a mule compared to my 300 PRC. Check MuzzleBrakeand More on TH-cam to see what great brake can actually accomplish. I put one of his brakes on my .300 WIN MAG and it feels same at my .233 bolt action now. No pain, no bruising, no kick really. I shot 40 rounds out of both in an hour recently getting ready for a hunt in Africa and zero pain. I’d shoot 100 rounds in the win Mag or the PRC and not complain at all. Quality brakes are amazing. Shitty brakes suck. Check out his TH-cam on the .300 PRC on his recoil sled.
@@hardcoreish and I forgot to mention. That my Fierce .300 PRC is titanium action so it’s very light… around 7 pounds with scope…. And serious …. No kick at all… and that’s with factory brake. But I may still get a custom brake for it from MuzzleBrakesandMore just for even quicker follow up shots if necessary
Sounds amazing, I'll have to check out that break.
Yeah breaks can make a huge difference. Add some weight to that and you can really delete a lot of recoil. My mrad in 300prc is no joke softer shooting than my light weight 308
Can’t wait for rest of collection. .22 PRC, 6mm PRC, and 375 PRC.
I am torn. I am a 7mm guy, but I also like short-actions. While recoil hasn't ever been a big concern to me I am starting to mind it more in the last couple year's. I also do not care for humping heavy rifles up the mountains anymore. I will probably go with the 7 PRC unless I decide to go with the 6.5.
Can't wait for 2025 when Hornady announces the .277 PRC with a 2.155" case length firing 165gr bullets at 2950 fps. 🙃
Have a 7 rem out of all of them I would get a 300 prc just seem it has the biggest advantages over what is already out and makes 1000 yards much easier
Since I bought a CVA Cascade in 6.5PRC before the 7mm rumors reached me, and CVA already uses a long action for their 6.5, I'm thinking I can re-barrel to the 7PRC when the time comes. New barrel and new mags should be all I need. For many years I've heard that 7mm is the ideal diameter for shooting the flattest trajectory, and this comparison provides some evidence!
Looking forward to building a 7prc.
Are you doing a review on that new Blackhound scope?
I like the 6.5 PRC, personally. Good for big game and deer. Now, if all you hunt is big game I’m a even bigger fan of the 300 PRC.
You should to a 6.5 PRC VS 6.8 Western. I think it got banished very quickly both with marketing and timing of the release.
Would have been nice to see you use all ELDX bullets in this comparison. 143, 175, 212. Great video though. I love the PRC cartridges.
What does Hornady have to say about the projected barrel life for the 7 PRC?
PRC line up is for Factory Ammo owners/users.. If u Reload, I would look elsewhere in Caliber.
I recently watched a video where a Hornady rep blamed powder component shortages for the slower velocities. They claim they have had to find alternate powders . 🤷♂️
Gavin. IMO.. The Ramshot LRT it's the best for these 7mm magnums and 300 magnums. plus you can stuff the case almost full of powder getting a complete case fill with no air gaps. it's such a slow burning powder. it's insanely consistent ive done pretty extensive testing
Great info ,currently looking at a 7mm prc for my next rifle .
Question, any recommendations for a factory gun ?
I wanted a 7mm PRC before they even announced it and it’s even better than what had dreamed it would be if it was ever a reality. I want one really bad. Have the 6.5PRC in a savage tactical and not really impressed with anything about it. The next cartridge in the PRC lineup that Hornady needs to develop is in a .338 caliber.
Honestly out to 300 for a Hunter I don't see anything the 7mm prc can drive that a 300wsm can't do with a 180 plus grain bullet
How does barrel life compare between the three
Do a video on pro’s and cons of long and short action please
No belting that’s a winner for me in the 7mm
Excellent video! I would love to suggest a 7mm PRC vs 7mm Saum comparison?
I’m excited about the 7 PRC. Will be a great option to rebarrel my 300 win mag rifle.
Your 300 win is a 30 cal. This is a 284. Dont think that will work will it ?
@@long-range-eliminator Rebarrelling means to change out the barrels on a receiver. So when my barrel is shot out on my 300 win mag rifle, I can take that barrel off and replace it with a 7 PRC barrel.
@@long-range-eliminator hope that clears it up. I added “rifle” after 300 win mag in my first comment to clear up any confusion.
Looking forward to the 243 PRC.
I have picked all my rifles based on what I want for Africa hunting 416 Rem Mag 30.06 sn .243 now I want something different flat shooting and just something special. I want a 7mm PRC if I just can get it in a Sako TRG I enjoy your videos. Thanks