Proximus took Caesar’s saying “Apes Together Strong” too literal. His logic was that all apes should be united, not in separate clans, but all under HIS rule.
Ironically where Caesar initially got "the apes together strong" thing was from Ancient Rome which even used the bundle of rods/sticks called a fasces as a metaphor and symbol. It not only represented the unity of the Roman people but it also represented a king/magistrate's power to punish his subjects. So if anything Proximus is actually using the original concept.
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww Proximus may claim to be in touch with Caesar’s original principles, but he distorts them to suit and justify his own desires. He even disregards at least one of them: “Ape not kill ape”.
I have watched this scene multiple times and I've only just realised that Proximus is saying "I must destroy their kind, unless we want to live in cages again." I genuinely thought that it was "I must destroy their kind! Yes! We won't live in cages again." I thought that because he seemed to have a habit of saying yes while he spoke. Mostly to Travathen while he was explaining stuff that he learned from him, almost as if he's checking that he got the details right.
Ive noticed that as well he has manurisms or ways he moves or talks that it's like he has to get every detail right, it's rather interesting character design
I still think people didn't understood Koba. Proximus and Koba are so different in their ideology. Koba really hated humans and wanted them dead for good. Proximus showed mercy for humans that would surrender to him for their knowledge.
@@stevenwagner-rx7ewKoba wanted to kill and/or enslave humans, while Proximus wanted valuable humans to serve him and award said humans if they were loyal. Koba wanted vengeance, and Proximus wanted power. Different ideologies
@@stevenwagner-rx7ew Hence giving him more power in the new world of evolved apes. More technology, more land, more resources, it's all the same when it comes to a king wanting more power
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Proximus took Caesar’s saying “Apes Together Strong” too literal. His logic was that all apes should be united, not in separate clans, but all under HIS rule.
But also twisted another teaching of ape not kill ape by sending his soldiers to kidnap the clans and kill any who resist his demands
Ironically where Caesar initially got "the apes together strong" thing was from Ancient Rome which even used the bundle of rods/sticks called a fasces as a metaphor and symbol. It not only represented the unity of the Roman people but it also represented a king/magistrate's power to punish his subjects. So if anything Proximus is actually using the original concept.
@@ArkhamKnight-uj6ww Proximus may claim to be in touch with Caesar’s original principles, but he distorts them to suit and justify his own desires. He even disregards at least one of them: “Ape not kill ape”.
He did not take it literally, he twisted it from a mantra of unity to one that enforces servitude to his will.
Proximus’s fear of humans is justified, but his methods are against everything Caesar stood for.
He wasn’t wrong 😂
Yep. But at the end of the day he was a threat to both apes and humans.
Proximus ceaser: sorry noa
Noa: what you?
I have watched this scene multiple times and I've only just realised that Proximus is saying "I must destroy their kind, unless we want to live in cages again."
I genuinely thought that it was "I must destroy their kind! Yes! We won't live in cages again." I thought that because he seemed to have a habit of saying yes while he spoke. Mostly to Travathen while he was explaining stuff that he learned from him, almost as if he's checking that he got the details right.
Ive noticed that as well he has manurisms or ways he moves or talks that it's like he has to get every detail right, it's rather interesting character design
So in a nutshell let's face it for proximus caesar; Koba is basically immortal
I still think people didn't understood Koba. Proximus and Koba are so different in their ideology. Koba really hated humans and wanted them dead for good. Proximus showed mercy for humans that would surrender to him for their knowledge.
@basilkarlo1557 still kind of the same, Proximus doesn't really care for humans, but he only cares about their technology like Koba did
@@stevenwagner-rx7ewKoba wanted to kill and/or enslave humans, while Proximus wanted valuable humans to serve him and award said humans if they were loyal. Koba wanted vengeance, and Proximus wanted power. Different ideologies
@@jayway7485proximus wanted their technology
@@stevenwagner-rx7ew Hence giving him more power in the new world of evolved apes. More technology, more land, more resources, it's all the same when it comes to a king wanting more power
I'm not talking about this guy
Ah blah what happened to Caesars clan
He is wrong.