It is sad, but, good in a way. I don't like it when new sequels and prequels eras have to continously make references to the original story. The universe should be allowed to expand beyond the starting point/trilogy, developing new paths for it to breathe and be.
Nature left alone will recover human structures in about 25 to 30 years alone. In another apocalyptic universe, The Last of Us, that's how long it took for nature to reclaim unpopulated areas. I don't know the timeline here, but it could be 75 to 100 years total. Not the hundreds of years mentioned.
I think the reason Ceasar is so forgotten might be because unlike the human religions the apes had no books or even a written language to keep his memory alive. The only thing of him left is the symbol of his window which they don't even know what it means
Whilst the written word is an easier way to preserve stories in the long term, passing on stories through oral traditions has allowed many stories to survive the test of time for tens of thousands of years. In australia for instance, a lot of their dreamtime stories reference giant version of modern animals, which were likely inspired by the megafauna ancient australians saw when they first arrived on the continent. The fact that we have stories possibly referring to animals that have been extinct for 40,000 years still around goes to show how speech can be a useful way to pass on knowledge
Taking into account that, for example, in the Christian religion the gospels were written in the first century, its message would have lasted even longer if it had only been orally, even by oral tradition the story of Caesar should have been maintained for longer. 300 years, I guess the ape tribes got too far apart.
They actually could write, to an extent. His tribe at the very least. You can see that when Maurice teaches young apes in the beginning of Dawn. They even had plates to eat from, and their own “houses”. (hoots? idk.) Like, they were much more intelligent than we give them credit for! I think Noa is just from an entirely different clan, looking at the fact kotpota takes place in a different part of America.
Because he was love and respect to other ape but not all ape are so loyal to him will at least that Raka keep the Tradition alive and well and I like that character at least he know what up he is right about he say ape together Strong ape shall not kill ape it like saying human can't not kill human but human like to kill 2:14
I mean, 2000 years later like a quarter of the world worships Jesus. They completely butcher everything he stood for and Christianity has become twisted and cultish, but it's the same thing.
North America is huge, it wouldn’t be crazy for other groups who had no knowledge of Caesar to slowly migrate and settle in the areas and have no knowledge of this “Caesar”
He basically was Moses since the land that blue eyes finds is a metaphor for the promised land that Moses is told about and takes the slaves the Egyptians enslaved, rakas whole clan is basically like how religion is today and that they teach and preach the words of Caesar like how church’s will preach the word of god and the bible so really him being revered as a god in some sorts or the best leader they had isn’t that far off
I loved Raka, even tho some things he had wrong about the history of of humanity and apes, he understood Caesar's character and what he stood for. He cares for both humans and apes because of Caesar.
1:29 I just love the way he describes books 📚, it’s a simple but deep description of the true meeting of literature, to keep ideas in all shapes and forms from knowledge to fictional stories to politics to history.
One thing i always wanted to know about Noa’s clan: are they descendants of members of Caesar’s clan that may have split off at one point before the events of this movie or are they descendants of apes not originally part of Caesar’s clan but rather apes that were exposed to the ALZ-113 and grew intelligent? Remember what Maurice said in the third movie? There may have been other apes in other parts of the world that were exposed to the virus. Is tribe part of Caesar’s or not? Since they don’t remember Caesar I’m thinking the latter.
@@crusadeuswolf a lot of apes look similar to Caesar. The point is that Caesar’s clan would never have forgotten him the way they have or distorted his teachings. They also would have preserved his bloodline to keep his memory alive. But that is my theory
@@bman3794 The apes dont use books. so they would have to teach their history verbally. and after 200 years Caesars orignal clan no doubt split up as it got larger and other events would make Caesar be seen as more of a Myth than a fact. Thus they would end up forgetting him and the newer generation did not Know him as the orginal clan did except for Raka's
Keep in mind that works if you take us people who watched the whole timeline and then interacted with said groups years later. It's like if someone viewed our reality and kept telling us no Jesus and Moses weren't like that.
As someone who grew up watching the original Planet of the Apes movies, I love how this new franchise is able to tell the same basic story of mankind's downfall and the rise of the apes, but not only tell it in chronological order, but can also make it feel fresh and original for newcomers. I truly think that these movies are set to become true classics.
It's not the truth of the past what matters in history. But the lessons it entails. Despite the flaws of humans and apes. They always look up to people like Ceasar who dream and hope of a time that is good. Ceasar was flawed but was redeemed by his compassion and learning from his past mistakes.
Well, if the theory that time travel exists in this new continuity exists like it did in the original universe, I can see the human man who was important to Caeser be a great replacement to teach Noa what Raka started to teach him. After all, only a person from Caeser's time can understand "the symbols" and know why humans were important to Caeser, and who knew Caeser so intently that he can explain what Caeser's actual intent was. After all, a loving parent knows their child best.
It’s kinda funny and creepy seeing a world without humans in it and yet hundreds of years into the future the scars of human existence still remain even if it’s just a little bit.
No wonder the orangutans were the lawmakers and aristocrats in the original Planet of the Apes. The way Raka talks about Caesar and his teachings makes me think of Dr. Zaius except Raka doesn't hate humans but is fascinated by them.
Mae provided him a window to why humans were so important to Caesar but really he cannot know that in actuality it was because Caesar was raised by a human. A human that destroyed the human race, but a human Caesar knew was always a good man since his intent was to save it. It took him a long time to realize just how powerless Will was to save him from what happened, but he never stopped loving him. That's a big part of Caesar's life Raka would like to find out since it's clear that it is forgotten now
He has no other way to know. Even in Caeser's time that knowledge was fading away because the elders wanted to forget it. Even Caeser didn't tell his son, Blue Eyes, until they wondered into Caeser's childhood home. I can't say I blame them since it was a traumatic time, but withholding that knowledge is part of the reason why the world is the way it is by Raka and Noa's time. Apes haven't had things like the Holocaust happen to them yet to make them understand why it's important to remember history, even if it's bad, frightening and disgusting. Remembering means mistakes can't be repeated. It's why I'm glad even though Raka probably can't understand them, he saves the books. Because books are windows into ideas to be shared. And perhaps they will find that a *human* wrote them.
It makes sense that some apes of the future would view Caesar as their either Jesus or Adam. I think they view him as Adam because he was the one who started the rise of the apes.
Even crazier that Caesar could become a historical/religious figure in North America. While at other parts of the world the Apes have their own figures. That's how different Empires develop
I loved this guy! This ape gives off Cornelius and Zira vibes! The early ways of the genius side of the Apes. Showing their fascination of human life and culture instead of simply to destroy
The order of Caesar is not a clan, it’s a group of scholars that pass on/protect the history of the apes, and the coastal apes were not officially a colony nor a clan, it was just different clans brought together to form a kingdom
Many churches across the world twist God's words. Why else do we have so many denominations. The Reformation started because people believed The Roman Catholic Church was twisting The Bible and adding to it.
@@roachdoggjr419 this movie shows that the apes have forgotten or disillusioned with Caesar's teachings, never knowing what the relationship between human and ape was, during Caesar’s time. It’s abundantly clear that Raka’s ideal future is very unlikely to become a reality.
Possibly the most important character ever created in cinema, and they flushed him down a river. If you remember the three ghosts of time from A Christmas Carol, Raka is the Ghost of Christmas Future, he portrays not merely the fall of humanity AND the fall of apes, what he demonstrates is the fall of the age of reason. If Earth was ever to maintain reason, Raka was its Olympic torch bearer, it was through his examination of the world that the Carol of Scrooge was to be a lesson for the audience, for our humanity. We were to be made humbled, but it was washed away.
The post credits has sounds of someone gargling on water. I think raka was "killed" so that the plot could move forward faster and introduce proximus. I'm sure he's likely to come back in the next movie
@roachdoggjr419 Actually, if you recall from the second film, Koba also had end-credits audio, and there's a very special purpose for this. Both Koba and Raka did and will return as spirits, because as the age of reason passes, the age of spirit begins. Thus, it is the critical-how by which apes can tame eagles. This cinematic concept is somewhat borrowed from the Assassin's Creed franchise, but the narrative comes from the separation of monarchy from democracy, the religious king from the egotistical state, was a trope of humanity. Thus, is why it ultimately failed both the Alpha-Omega Militia and the Proximus Caesar tribe, because the true strength and spirit of Apes is Together Strong, not all-for-one nor one-for-all. This is why, in both cases of human leader and ape king, neither are killed by an ape, because Ape Shall Not Kill Ape, the commandment of their spirit however shall apply its power of influence to the mutated virus and to the eagles instead. Finally, this is why at the end of the story we are introduced to the last surviving pocket of humanity in quarantine talking to a space station, because in such unreasonable condition of body and technology, it is here we're introduced to the spirit of humanity, the spirit to explore outer space and to endure great hardship. The tragedy of the film being how quickly they got rid of Raka was that he could have been the ape to receive the astronauts as they returned to Earth, instead, now positions him as a guardian voice to guide only the apes that knew him in memory, just like how Koba haunted Caesar.
1:16 something I’m still wondering Is what are these books. Did the order of Caesar make these books or were they books the San Francisco Colony and Order of Caesar found and kept for centuries. Also, what happened to the books, did Noa keep them?
@@petercullen9927They didn’t understand the symbols (Words) much like earlier humans. Meaning was conveyed with words and actions and pictures. Law was written only when pen was used. The printing press is still a ways off so Books lost value but not to the Order. Though they sadly do not understand them either. Not didn’t take them as he did not see value is written words, only Action. Just like a Ceasar would….
HERE ON EARTH , NOAH WHO BUILD THE ARKS , BEFORE , HE WAS MOSES , MOSES , HIDE MANY , NOT BOOKS , BUT CONCRETE ,BOARDS , ALANTIS , GATHERED , THOSE , THAT WAS CRUSHED INTO PIECES , TOLD NOAH , FIX , THEM , DID YOU FIND ALL OF THEM , YES I DID HE ANSWERED, BUT I HIDE , 27 MORE , IN THE CAVE !
Since Raka and the apes can't read, they might not know what the Bible or the Quran is. If they did, they would probably misinterpret them as being about the life of Caesar.
Will we find out that noa distant direct descendants from Cornelius in future sequels because he lookalike Caesar and they both have same eyes and birthmark?
I just noticed that if you look closely you can see the scarf Raka wears has symbols that apes wore on their clothes in the original Planet of the Apes movies.
Rakka and his beliefs about Caesar how apes and humans could put aside their differences. To create a better world with nature and animals the entire planet could be reflorish if they weren't against one another. Love this film 🤩
I think he’s a different subspecies, Maurice was a Bornean Orangutan so he was the largest subspecies with the flanges, Raka is probably Sumatran being he’s somewhat smaller with no flanges.
The best part is near the end where Raka is confused by the word echo because even though Noa sees them as lesser he has reasons to while Raka has good intentions he only cares because of Blind obedience. It's similar to real life politics or religion. neither is wrong just different.
I'm curious how they forgot how to read yet evolved into a more clear English because if I recall correctly during Dawn when Maurice was teaching a class of young apes there were words on the wall that read "Ape not kill ape"
I lov the way Raka teaced Noa abt Caesar...but Caesar died...bcuz Koba shooted him...he was my favorite character that time but now...Noa is now my new favorite character:D
2:03 Raka: Long before your elders, it was Caesar who taught us what it means to be ape. He was our leader, our lawgiver. 2:14 Apes Together Strong. 2:17 Ape shall not kill ape.
Many Americans today can't even tell you the names of the American Founding Fathers. Maybe George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison are remembered but what about the rest?
I really like the angle of this movie in terms of Ceasar's teachings. After 300 years there was bound to be misinterpretation, but Noa, Soona, Anaya and the rest are from a different generation. How they see human beings are fundamentally in opposition to how they were viewed in Ceasar's time. Ceasar saw the good and bad of them and treated them as equals. But now? They're no less than scavengers now. I still think they should continue with the Apes together Strong and Ape not Kill Ape lesson, but as far as harmony with humanity? I don't see that going well, especially after the ending.
What’s the most tragic and personally the most painful part about this is that ironically those book are in fact the only books in existence, those books are the sum total of all of humanity’s knowledge and history, boiled down to four books 😂.
Sometimes I wonder if Noa is related to Caesar maybe Caesar is his ancestor maybe Noa is Caesars descendant from his younger son Cornelius maybe he is Caesars great great great grandson I’m sure of it.
Sometimes I wonder if Noa is related to Caesar maybe Caesar is his ancestor maybe Noa is Caesars descendant from his son Cornelius like he’s Caesar’s great great great grandson I’m sure of it.
I’m trying to find this scene where Noa goes to sleep during a windy night, and he hears someone calling his name. I just want to say that voice sounded a lot like Koba’s. It sent a fear in Noa’s sleep, and made him wake up panicking a bit. Does anyone thinks the same??
@@Caes008 I highly doubt it. It is said that it is only mere centuries after the downfall of humanity, they're still in like their bronze age, meaning scientist shojld not even exist yet, or they were more primitive
Because 100,000 years later, there would be very little history of Caesar left for other apes to know. Just a few centuries later, there's still apes who kept his teachings around as long as they could.
@@jesseoliver6457 makes sense for that, but for the apes to have a drastic cultural renaissance like that, wouldn’t it make much sense if there’s more time to pass?
@@matthewtenorioduenas202 that could still happen if Disney continues with the franchise past the new trilogy they'll be making. But as of right now, that idea would be bad writing.
@@matthewtenorioduenas202 yes, they bought out all the rights to X-men, Fantastic Four, the Alien and Predator movies and also Planet of the Apes. So the new Alien: Romulus, Prey, and now Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes are all made by Disney.
Honestly after Caeser's trilogy and especially after Matt Reeves's 2 phenomenal movies this just looks like a weird video game. The CGI and MOCAP is bad and the dialog and the way they speak sounds very video game-y and strange! I haven't seen the movie and hadn't planned on it since it wasn't done by Matt but after watching this scene I'm even more convinced of never seeing this movie. It just looks like a big insult to the OG trilogy. Damn it's bad.
Raka was the only part of this movie I actually enjoyed . The rest of the film was a horrendous piece of crap. As the film progressed, I couldn’t help but find more things about it I hated and I nearly got up and exited the theater several times. I’ll try the sequels when they come out, but I’ll never watch this one again. It barely even felt like a true POTA film!!!
I don't get how people can be this closeminded when the conflict of this new era is the progression of time and corruption of old ideals by evil individuals, thats basically human history the Apes are experiencing, and the human characters are also shown as being changed by their loss of dominance and near extinction, the stuff May does hammers in all the old rules made of how Apes don't want to be like humans in how they desperately need to be in power, kill one another and all that, its basically something that will also outlive Noa and May's lifespan. And with the loss of Raka who held some knowledge of the past, those two sides become doomed to repeat old mistakes of rivaling dominance.
@@darthdracul8372 It’s just my opinion of how I felt about the movie when I saw it in theaters. Maybe the sequels will be better but I have plenty of reasons to justify why I hated it. If you liked it that’s fine, but stand by how U felt about the movie when I watched it!!!
The part, i didn’t like about this film is not a lot of other fauna, their could have be more escape animals from zoos,farms and wildlife parks and maybe the main villain should have an elephant as his ride
Its kind of sad that after such an intellectual rise and evolution that the apes would immediately fall into the same cycles of conflicts we subjected ourselves to. They have an entire world as graveyard and example of how not to behave.
So sad that some apes have already forgotten about Caesar just a few centuries later.
“Even the greatest of us can’t compete with time.” -Lex Luthor
"Men have destroyed the city, but time took its name" - unknown farmer when asked by the byzantine emperor the name of said ruins 1300s
@@aldrinmilespartosa1578 dang…
It is sad, but, good in a way.
I don't like it when new sequels and prequels eras have to continously make references to the original story. The universe should be allowed to expand beyond the starting point/trilogy, developing new paths for it to breathe and be.
Right
@@bigmoe9856true, you’re not wrong.
The orangutans seem to be the most loyal to Caesar even after hundreds of years later
Caesar was the ape prophet! His teachings were the true way of Apes. 🦧 APE TOGETHER STRONG. APE DOES NOT KILL APE
Nature left alone will recover human structures in about 25 to 30 years alone. In another apocalyptic universe, The Last of Us, that's how long it took for nature to reclaim unpopulated areas. I don't know the timeline here, but it could be 75 to 100 years total. Not the hundreds of years mentioned.
@@titanrahlgaming 300 years
Maurice made sure of that.
That why when I look at an Orangutans I just feel they have so much knowledge in those minds of theirs
I think the reason Ceasar is so forgotten might be because unlike the human religions the apes had no books or even a written language to keep his memory alive. The only thing of him left is the symbol of his window which they don't even know what it means
Like many religions we have some sparse things associated but we don't know really much of what they were
Whilst the written word is an easier way to preserve stories in the long term, passing on stories through oral traditions has allowed many stories to survive the test of time for tens of thousands of years. In australia for instance, a lot of their dreamtime stories reference giant version of modern animals, which were likely inspired by the megafauna ancient australians saw when they first arrived on the continent. The fact that we have stories possibly referring to animals that have been extinct for 40,000 years still around goes to show how speech can be a useful way to pass on knowledge
Taking into account that, for example, in the Christian religion the gospels were written in the first century, its message would have lasted even longer if it had only been orally, even by oral tradition the story of Caesar should have been maintained for longer. 300 years, I guess the ape tribes got too far apart.
Raka: “The symbols have meaning”
Caesar: “It’s just my window, bruh”
They actually could write, to an extent. His tribe at the very least. You can see that when Maurice teaches young apes in the beginning of Dawn. They even had plates to eat from, and their own “houses”. (hoots? idk.) Like, they were much more intelligent than we give them credit for! I think Noa is just from an entirely different clan, looking at the fact kotpota takes place in a different part of America.
I love how 300 years later they still worshipped Caesar
Because he was love and respect to other ape but not all ape are so loyal to him will at least that Raka keep the Tradition alive and well and I like that character at least he know what up he is right about he say ape together Strong ape shall not kill ape it like saying human can't not kill human but human like to kill 2:14
@@cesarmorales9138 I still get depressed when I watch Caesar death scene
@@TheonetrueBigAl me too
I mean, 2000 years later like a quarter of the world worships Jesus. They completely butcher everything he stood for and Christianity has become twisted and cultish, but it's the same thing.
No tv for 300 years can do that to you😂
Their English certainly improved since Caesar's time.
I think Caesar in war spoke better than any ape here. But he lived among humans.
I was glad in this scene Rakka explain what's the beef with that fake Ceasar......that psycho makes me to miss the old Ceasar
Same
He knows who Caesar is. But he’s acting more like Koba
Raka was the most interesting character in that entire movie, I was sad when he got carried away in the river, I'm hoping he didn't die.
@@keshhan6412 many comentario said that Raka still alive, oranguntan's sound in the credits
river shall not kill apes
North America is huge, it wouldn’t be crazy for other groups who had no knowledge of Caesar to slowly migrate and settle in the areas and have no knowledge of this “Caesar”
It had been hundreds of years since
I'd imagine there would be even bigger clans or kingdoms in Africa, that's where most apes lived
I like how in the scene they treat Cesar like Jesus like the Messiah
More like Moses
@@aaronmiles2802the lawgiver.
He basically was Moses since the land that blue eyes finds is a metaphor for the promised land that Moses is told about and takes the slaves the Egyptians enslaved, rakas whole clan is basically like how religion is today and that they teach and preach the words of Caesar like how church’s will preach the word of god and the bible so really him being revered as a god in some sorts or the best leader they had isn’t that far off
Cesar the APE Messiah
I loved Raka, even tho some things he had wrong about the history of of humanity and apes, he understood Caesar's character and what he stood for. He cares for both humans and apes because of Caesar.
Passage of time will do that. Imagine Jesus christ and other religions
1:29 I just love the way he describes books 📚, it’s a simple but deep description of the true meeting of literature, to keep ideas in all shapes and forms from knowledge to fictional stories to politics to history.
It's how mythologies have survived over the ages even long after the culture is gone
One thing i always wanted to know about Noa’s clan: are they descendants of members of Caesar’s clan that may have split off at one point before the events of this movie or are they descendants of apes not originally part of Caesar’s clan but rather apes that were exposed to the ALZ-113 and grew intelligent? Remember what Maurice said in the third movie? There may have been other apes in other parts of the world that were exposed to the virus. Is tribe part of Caesar’s or not? Since they don’t remember Caesar I’m thinking the latter.
Noa face does look similar to Caesar. He may be a long lost descendant of him
@@crusadeuswolf a lot of apes look similar to Caesar. The point is that Caesar’s clan would never have forgotten him the way they have or distorted his teachings. They also would have preserved his bloodline to keep his memory alive. But that is my theory
@@bman3794 The apes dont use books. so they would have to teach their history verbally. and after 200 years Caesars orignal clan no doubt split up as it got larger and other events would make Caesar be seen as more of a Myth than a fact. Thus they would end up forgetting him and the newer generation did not Know him as the orginal clan did except for Raka's
They split into three clans
@@bman3794 I think Noa is a descendant of Caesar through Cornelius. That last shot in the opening scene focused heavily on Cornelius.
Hearing him try to explain Humans and how we lived just proves, Time will always be the enemy of Truth.
Keep in mind that works if you take us people who watched the whole timeline and then interacted with said groups years later.
It's like if someone viewed our reality and kept telling us no Jesus and Moses weren't like that.
As someone who grew up watching the original Planet of the Apes movies, I love how this new franchise is able to tell the same basic story of mankind's downfall and the rise of the apes, but not only tell it in chronological order, but can also make it feel fresh and original for newcomers. I truly think that these movies are set to become true classics.
It's not the truth of the past what matters in history.
But the lessons it entails. Despite the flaws of humans and apes.
They always look up to people like Ceasar who dream and hope of a time that is good.
Ceasar was flawed but was redeemed by his compassion and learning from his past mistakes.
The masks Take his name, TWIST HIS WORDS!
Best quote of 2024
@@mistag42698yep!
I wish Raka comes back in the second movie his was such a wise ape
I wish they kept him in longer… I think he would have been a great mentor figure for Noa.
Well, if the theory that time travel exists in this new continuity exists like it did in the original universe, I can see the human man who was important to Caeser be a great replacement to teach Noa what Raka started to teach him. After all, only a person from Caeser's time can understand "the symbols" and know why humans were important to Caeser, and who knew Caeser so intently that he can explain what Caeser's actual intent was. After all, a loving parent knows their child best.
@@girl1213just imagine how shocked Will would be see how Caesar become a god like figure to apes
Nothing funnier then raka trying to teach Noa the wrong kind of human history only for his mind to be blown by truth 😮 so good
What I wonder is what happened to Caeser's son?
Obviously he lived a long life while at the same time falling in love with an ape and having a kid or two and so forth for the next 300 years
@@petercullen9927 So why didn't they show us Caesar's descendants?
@@andrewcabral963because that would have taken too long
@@petercullen9927 Well it's better than introducing us to some new random ape.
@@andrewcabral963for all we know, Noa could very well be Caesar’s descendant.
Raka was easily my favorite character introduced in the movie.
You know it's funny this one clip makes me more interested in watching the movie than all the trailers that they put out when it was in theaters
It’s kinda funny and creepy seeing a world without humans in it and yet hundreds of years into the future the scars of human existence still remain even if it’s just a little bit.
No wonder the orangutans were the lawmakers and aristocrats in the original Planet of the Apes. The way Raka talks about Caesar and his teachings makes me think of Dr. Zaius except Raka doesn't hate humans but is fascinated by them.
Mae provided him a window to why humans were so important to Caesar but really he cannot know that in actuality it was because Caesar was raised by a human. A human that destroyed the human race, but a human Caesar knew was always a good man since his intent was to save it. It took him a long time to realize just how powerless Will was to save him from what happened, but he never stopped loving him. That's a big part of Caesar's life Raka would like to find out since it's clear that it is forgotten now
It was very satisfying to be hearing about Caesar like this. Even seeing that symbol which was originally just a window
Was really impressed with how well they developed with their speaking
I like how Raka thinks apes built these structures and cared/raised humans when it was the other way around.
He has no other way to know. Even in Caeser's time that knowledge was fading away because the elders wanted to forget it. Even Caeser didn't tell his son, Blue Eyes, until they wondered into Caeser's childhood home.
I can't say I blame them since it was a traumatic time, but withholding that knowledge is part of the reason why the world is the way it is by Raka and Noa's time. Apes haven't had things like the Holocaust happen to them yet to make them understand why it's important to remember history, even if it's bad, frightening and disgusting. Remembering means mistakes can't be repeated.
It's why I'm glad even though Raka probably can't understand them, he saves the books. Because books are windows into ideas to be shared. And perhaps they will find that a *human* wrote them.
I can’t unhear Kratos from Raka’s voice.
The Way Raka Describes Caesar Is Like He Is Their Ape God.
In a way Caesar is their Ape God as he used ALZ-113 on Apes to give them greater intelligence and the ability to speak english
You can think of him as Ape Moses or Ape Jesus, since he shares similar accomplishments and personality. A savior of his people and a wise leader.
Finally saw the movie last night. Never though I’d like it so much. Raka is my favorite.
Same saw it last night very good film. Hope that wasnt the last of proximus
Same
This is my favorite scene of the movie. Raka was like an acheologist trying to figure out ancient civilizations. History really erodes everything.
It makes sense that some apes of the future would view Caesar as their either Jesus or Adam. I think they view him as Adam because he was the one who started the rise of the apes.
Even crazier that Caesar could become a historical/religious figure in North America. While at other parts of the world the Apes have their own figures. That's how different Empires develop
I loved this guy! This ape gives off Cornelius and Zira vibes! The early ways of the genius side of the Apes. Showing their fascination of human life and culture instead of simply to destroy
Five. Hundred. Bananas.
The three ape clans that have emerged from oasis are eagle clan, order of Caesar and coastal ape colony
The order of Caesar is not a clan, it’s a group of scholars that pass on/protect the history of the apes, and the coastal apes were not officially a colony nor a clan, it was just different clans brought together to form a kingdom
1:52 best how to describe what churches do in America.
Many churches across the world twist God's words. Why else do we have so many denominations. The Reformation started because people believed The Roman Catholic Church was twisting The Bible and adding to it.
Damn
What they do everywhere
"Lawgiver" gives off Planet of the Apes vibes.(1968 version)
Raka has to come back
Raka represents Caesar’s original beliefs, and Ceasar’s actual legacy went down with Raka.
@marcesteban8694 so you're trying to say they're just gonna throw away the whole point of the first 3 movies?
@@roachdoggjr419 this movie shows that the apes have forgotten or disillusioned with Caesar's teachings, never knowing what the relationship between human and ape was, during Caesar’s time.
It’s abundantly clear that Raka’s ideal future is very unlikely to become a reality.
It was so stupid to get rid of him so early
Raka know teaching history about caesar of leader apes
Possibly the most important character ever created in cinema, and they flushed him down a river.
If you remember the three ghosts of time from A Christmas Carol, Raka is the Ghost of Christmas Future, he portrays not merely the fall of humanity AND the fall of apes, what he demonstrates is the fall of the age of reason.
If Earth was ever to maintain reason, Raka was its Olympic torch bearer, it was through his examination of the world that the Carol of Scrooge was to be a lesson for the audience, for our humanity.
We were to be made humbled, but it was washed away.
The post credits has sounds of someone gargling on water. I think raka was "killed" so that the plot could move forward faster and introduce proximus. I'm sure he's likely to come back in the next movie
@roachdoggjr419 Actually, if you recall from the second film, Koba also had end-credits audio, and there's a very special purpose for this.
Both Koba and Raka did and will return as spirits, because as the age of reason passes, the age of spirit begins. Thus, it is the critical-how by which apes can tame eagles. This cinematic concept is somewhat borrowed from the Assassin's Creed franchise, but the narrative comes from the separation of monarchy from democracy, the religious king from the egotistical state, was a trope of humanity. Thus, is why it ultimately failed both the Alpha-Omega Militia and the Proximus Caesar tribe, because the true strength and spirit of Apes is Together Strong, not all-for-one nor one-for-all. This is why, in both cases of human leader and ape king, neither are killed by an ape, because Ape Shall Not Kill Ape, the commandment of their spirit however shall apply its power of influence to the mutated virus and to the eagles instead.
Finally, this is why at the end of the story we are introduced to the last surviving pocket of humanity in quarantine talking to a space station, because in such unreasonable condition of body and technology, it is here we're introduced to the spirit of humanity, the spirit to explore outer space and to endure great hardship.
The tragedy of the film being how quickly they got rid of Raka was that he could have been the ape to receive the astronauts as they returned to Earth, instead, now positions him as a guardian voice to guide only the apes that knew him in memory, just like how Koba haunted Caesar.
The Urang Utan sounds are really beautiful and eerie at the same time.
Is there any more orangutans like Raka in the world?
Maybe
There should be. I want to see more gorillas and orangs, more bonobos. I want to see how they lived, what their cultures were like.
Exactly, we want more Orangutans, more Gorillas and more bonobos, thats what the film didnt Match previous films globally.
In fall of the planet of the apes
What about gibbons
I really wanted Raka to be to Noa who Maurice was to Caesar throughout this new trilogy.
1:16 something I’m still wondering
Is what are these books. Did the order of Caesar make these books or were they books the San Francisco Colony and Order of Caesar found and kept for centuries. Also, what happened to the books, did Noa keep them?
They were just random books that the order of Caesar found, and Caesar’s apes were a colony not a clan
What’s weird is take just left the bag of books behind
@@petercullen9927They didn’t understand the symbols (Words) much like earlier humans. Meaning was conveyed with words and actions and pictures. Law was written only when pen was used. The printing press is still a ways off so Books lost value but not to the Order. Though they sadly do not understand them either. Not didn’t take them as he did not see value is written words, only Action. Just like a Ceasar would….
HERE ON EARTH , NOAH WHO BUILD THE ARKS , BEFORE , HE WAS MOSES , MOSES , HIDE MANY , NOT BOOKS , BUT CONCRETE ,BOARDS , ALANTIS , GATHERED , THOSE , THAT WAS CRUSHED INTO PIECES , TOLD NOAH , FIX , THEM , DID YOU FIND ALL OF THEM , YES I DID HE ANSWERED, BUT I HIDE , 27 MORE , IN THE CAVE !
Thank you.
I've watched this movie servel months ago it was something
An Orangutan
Raka is like Maurice and Louie from The Jungle Book, another from Life of Pi 🐯
Imagine if Caesar appeared as a spirit
I hope Raka is still alive in the sequel,I love orangutans 🦧
2:50-3:48 fill me with wonder and inspiration to my fantasy novell im working on.
Imagine if raka got his hands on a bible
or the koran
Since Raka and the apes can't read, they might not know what the Bible or the Quran is. If they did, they would probably misinterpret them as being about the life of Caesar.
Or the torah
It would be cool if raka made a ape Bible 😮😮😮
Shut the front door.
At least someone knows who Caesar is.
Dear goodness the graphics are insane!
Will we find out that noa distant direct descendants from Cornelius in future sequels because he lookalike Caesar and they both have same eyes and birthmark?
I just noticed that if you look closely you can see the scarf Raka wears has symbols that apes wore on their clothes in the original Planet of the Apes movies.
Saw a hawk-eagle-raptor on walk today.
Their so different i enjoy seeing them of course a machine cyborg like does wear many masks over times
Rakka and his beliefs about Caesar how apes and humans could put aside their differences. To create a better world with nature and animals the entire planet could be reflorish if they weren't against one another. Love this film 🤩
Apes falling from sky, hmm. 😅
The only prominent Orangutan, i wish we see more of them
It’s like they’re watching me… that unseen force they keep mentioning in the monotheistic beliefs
I wonder if Raka is a descendant of Maurice.
I think he’s a different subspecies, Maurice was a Bornean Orangutan so he was the largest subspecies with the flanges, Raka is probably Sumatran being he’s somewhat smaller with no flanges.
@@Kingsaxxy3872 Maybe he is just a younger orangutan, they don't get flanges until their late into maturity
I love how Caesars has become worshipped as a Messiah
Kinda interesting because this is also modern-day religions.
0:58 Raka put's his staff down but the next shot it is still pointing at Noa.
@@LukeyBoyAndTheCatlings I know, I had to cut some parts so this video can be copyright free
@@LukeyBoyAndTheCatlings So if I were to post this video with no cuts or no edits, it would be copyright striked and would’ve got taken down
The best part is near the end where Raka is confused by the word echo because even though Noa sees them as lesser he has reasons to while Raka has good intentions he only cares because of Blind obedience. It's similar to real life politics or religion. neither is wrong just different.
I'm curious how they forgot how to read yet evolved into a more clear English because if I recall correctly during Dawn when Maurice was teaching a class of young apes there were words on the wall that read "Ape not kill ape"
Proximus twisted his words so he can justify his atrocities to his fellow apes.
I lov the way Raka teaced Noa abt Caesar...but Caesar died...bcuz Koba shooted him...he was my favorite character that time but now...Noa is now my new favorite character:D
Raka teaches Noa about Caesar
2:03 Raka: Long before your elders, it was Caesar who taught us what it means to be ape. He was our leader, our lawgiver. 2:14 Apes Together Strong. 2:17 Ape shall not kill ape.
It seems unfair that only Ceasar is remembered. Not Maurice or the others.
Many Americans today can't even tell you the names of the American Founding Fathers. Maybe George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison are remembered but what about the rest?
@ReiseLukas or for that matter, what about the founding mothers?
@@Dragonstorm62190 good point. I only remember Martha Washington and Betsy Ross
I really like the angle of this movie in terms of Ceasar's teachings. After 300 years there was bound to be misinterpretation, but Noa, Soona, Anaya and the rest are from a different generation. How they see human beings are fundamentally in opposition to how they were viewed in Ceasar's time. Ceasar saw the good and bad of them and treated them as equals. But now? They're no less than scavengers now. I still think they should continue with the Apes together Strong and Ape not Kill Ape lesson, but as far as harmony with humanity? I don't see that going well, especially after the ending.
The Apes survive 300 years later
What’s the most tragic and personally the most painful part about this is that ironically those book are in fact the only books in existence, those books are the sum total of all of humanity’s knowledge and history, boiled down to four books 😂.
Sometimes I wonder if Noa is related to Caesar maybe Caesar is his ancestor maybe Noa is Caesars descendant from his younger son Cornelius maybe he is Caesars great great great grandson I’m sure of it.
Sometimes I wonder if Noa is related to Caesar maybe Caesar is his ancestor maybe Noa is Caesars descendant from his son Cornelius like he’s Caesar’s great great great grandson I’m sure of it.
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I’m trying to find this scene where Noa goes to sleep during a windy night, and he hears someone calling his name.
I just want to say that voice sounded a lot like Koba’s. It sent a fear in Noa’s sleep, and made him wake up panicking a bit.
Does anyone thinks the same??
In no world would humans ever lose to apes.
Does anyone know why in the reboot, the apes are not scientists and researchers like Zira, Cornelius and Zaius as in the original movies?
@@jeremyelcuervo6091 It might be in the next movie because all of the movies of the reboot is based before the original movies
@@Caes008 I highly doubt it. It is said that it is only mere centuries after the downfall of humanity, they're still in like their bronze age, meaning scientist shojld not even exist yet, or they were more primitive
What is the Correlation between Noa And Ceasar? Like what is Noa’s background story? The entire time I thought Noa was Ceasar’s son
Where's Cornelius
1:46
I agree HUMAN not very smart easily angered by things they do not understand
Why the time difference is only centuries? Why not make it like 100,000 years later. All POTA movies have this trope.
Because 100,000 years later, there would be very little history of Caesar left for other apes to know. Just a few centuries later, there's still apes who kept his teachings around as long as they could.
@@jesseoliver6457 makes sense for that, but for the apes to have a drastic cultural renaissance like that, wouldn’t it make much sense if there’s more time to pass?
@@matthewtenorioduenas202 that could still happen if Disney continues with the franchise past the new trilogy they'll be making. But as of right now, that idea would be bad writing.
@@jesseoliver6457 disney? Disney is taking over?
@@matthewtenorioduenas202 yes, they bought out all the rights to X-men, Fantastic Four, the Alien and Predator movies and also Planet of the Apes. So the new Alien: Romulus, Prey, and now Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes are all made by Disney.
Lawgiver
Raka should actually be female since they lack the cheek flanges of the adult males.
Not all males get the cheek flanges
Human 2:33 2:44 3:00 3:08 3:16
Honestly after Caeser's trilogy and especially after Matt Reeves's 2 phenomenal movies this just looks like a weird video game. The CGI and MOCAP is bad and the dialog and the way they speak sounds very video game-y and strange! I haven't seen the movie and hadn't planned on it since it wasn't done by Matt but after watching this scene I'm even more convinced of never seeing this movie. It just looks like a big insult to the OG trilogy. Damn it's bad.
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Raka was the only part of this movie I actually enjoyed . The rest of the film was a horrendous piece of crap. As the film progressed, I couldn’t help but find more things about it I hated and I nearly got up and exited the theater several times. I’ll try the sequels when they come out, but I’ll never watch this one again. It barely even felt like a true POTA film!!!
Ever heard of the word new beginning or a buildup?
It’s really shameful how people have very little imagination
I don't get how people can be this closeminded when the conflict of this new era is the progression of time and corruption of old ideals by evil individuals, thats basically human history the Apes are experiencing, and the human characters are also shown as being changed by their loss of dominance and near extinction, the stuff May does hammers in all the old rules made of how Apes don't want to be like humans in how they desperately need to be in power, kill one another and all that, its basically something that will also outlive Noa and May's lifespan.
And with the loss of Raka who held some knowledge of the past, those two sides become doomed to repeat old mistakes of rivaling dominance.
@@darthdracul8372 It’s just my opinion of how I felt about the movie when I saw it in theaters. Maybe the sequels will be better but I have plenty of reasons to justify why I hated it. If you liked it that’s fine, but stand by how U felt about the movie when I watched it!!!
The part, i didn’t like about this film is not a lot of other fauna, their could have be more escape animals from zoos,farms and wildlife parks and maybe the main villain should have an elephant as his ride
@@tedflanc1024do you see Kung Fu Panda 4 🐼?
This movie was such a waste of potential
Its kind of sad that after such an intellectual rise and evolution that the apes would immediately fall into the same cycles of conflicts we subjected ourselves to.
They have an entire world as graveyard and example of how not to behave.
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