I gasped out loud at Daisuke Ono being in this. It's a small world.... The script being so vehemently no-homo'd is something I understand from a business perspective, but the game still feels really unique for it. I think a mod for this that keeps the "just bros" script but has all the original casually horny CGs, dongs and all, wouldn't be out of place for a surreal comedy game today. My questions for the Q&A: What equipment do you use to record? And/or what was your favourite episode to write?
And a very,very fresh Ono D at that! The original Hotaru2 also had urinal pissing CGs for each character. If anyone is to make a mod, that should be totally added in.
Tricking straight people into reading sanitized gay porn is so funny lmao. Such an interesting choice... you gotta respect it. Hearing a bit about the history of bara was cool too, I enjoy me some occasional art but didn't really know much about its roots. In terms of Q&A questions, just off the top of my head: - Do you also read visual novels that aren't dating sims and if so, what are your favorites? - How did you get into dating sims and how did your consumption of them change as you grew older, if at all? I remember you touching on this in a previous video but would be cool to have in a Q&A too. - If you grew up playing dating sims, did you ever have any awkward moments with friends or family in regards to their content? - What are some of your favorite tropes in dating sims if you have any? Story-wise or for example character archetypes you enjoy. - Do you read regular ole books as well and if so, what are your favorites? - Do you also play other types of video games? - Was there any specific catalyst that resulted in you starting a TH-cam channel or did you simply get the urge to share your interest in dating sims one day? - Is there any dating sim you really want to read but haven't been able to for some reason (not available in a language you know, impossible to find etc.)? - Also some general topics I'd find interesting to hear about: your favorite and least favorite dating sims, your favorite artists or simply what game has your favorite art, sims that surprised you (positively or negatively), ones that you othewise really liked but got ruined by one particular thing you just can't stand... Sorry that it's a bit chaotic but that's what came to mind immediately! Maybe one or two are worth answering
Check out this manly men doing manly things in this manly man job! Full of fiery hot blooded passion..or something. Really contradicts the original Hotaru 2's premise where it was made more to look like a trendy worksite tv drama(full of horny gay employees).
I wanted to say this on the Rival Schools video but YT moderation deleted my comment I recommend looking up Masanori's artwork, he's done a lot of art of Rival School characters (it's pretty nice ☺) He's also responsible for the art in Hunk's Workshop (which also has music from Namco Fame Shinji Hosoe and his music group) Happy to see you review more bara/BL games!
I remember Capcom fanart was everywhere in gei fanart in the early 2000s. And duuude, I was such a big Masanori fan I emailed FG begging to sell me Hunk's Workshop overseas. They were really nice and obliged. It's still preserved in the paper envelope it originally came in, haha. And sorry for TH-cam eating the comments. I always check the 'Held for Review' tab, but nothing was there😔
Yay! New video! :3 As a gay guy, it's very interesting to learn about bara/gei dating sims! I really like the artstyle. All of the love interests are attractive (except for Seta), but I think Mamoru is the best.. I can see why he's the most popular character! 😍 It's funny how they turned the game's narrative into a bromance, but it does seem like they were able to write a decent story. Imagine playing the game as a kid, and later finding out it was a p*rn game 😭
My questions for the Q&A are the following: - Who's your favorite(s) Tokimemo 1 character? - When and Why did you start writing video game reviews? - What are your favorite video game genres and consoles? - Have you ever traveled outside of South Korea? - Do you like Sanrio? If you do, who's your favorite character? - Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, or PC? - How many languages do you know? I know that's a lot of questions.. 😅 I'm excited to see your playthrough of Tokimemo 1! :3
Hotaru's artwork is pretty unique compared to other gei games released around that time. I like Inukai's artwork too, but prefer his flat/b&w stuff. I don't think Seta looks bad as a character, but all his doings makes his overall soft feature pretty superficial. Taiyou is supposed to be the hot one, but Orio is love. If you were a gay kid who played this to later find out you were able to have sex with the guys all along, guess it won't be too bad, right?
For the Q&A: I don't have a question to ask but in your Tokimemo 1 video, you said Yukiko from Tokimemo 3 is unintentionally the most hated heroine in the series. I've been waiting for 2.5 years for an explanation why! I just wanted to thank you for making these videos. Seeing these old games being talked about brings back some good memories of a simpler time. I'm a big fan of the channel and I hope that the Tokimemo 3 video comes out someday (soon?).
Thanks for the encouragement! Perhaps someday. Not that soon I think. Let's see how life turns out. At the time of Tokimemo3 Makihara did place second last in the popularity poll right above her best friend(Chitose). Nothing against the character; as I stated in the video she was a mere victim the revamped Bomb mechanic that was only utilized in Tokimemo3.
for q&a 1. how common are "otome villainesses"? it's a popular trope currently in isekai stuff especially, and it's presented as a given in otome games. I don't play otome, really, but it doesn't seem too accurate to the english-translated titles that I know of. The only one I can think of is angelique , but even the villainess there doesn't seem to fully fit the bill as depicted in other media. So are they a myth or do they exist? How do you feel about them yourself, real or imagined. (and how do you feel about otome isekais in general, for that matter) 2. How many languages do you know? Have you learned any of them for the primary (or one of the primary) purpose of understanding games? 3. do you know of any japanese (or korean) creators that do similiar retrospectives/reviews on older games in video format? 4. The discussion of gei games made me think about it, yuri as a genre is more ambigious but *is* there an equivalent for it in games? As in, games specifically targeted towards a gay female (lesbian) demographic. Additionally, I know you talked about yuri genre in one video, are there any other game you want to cover? 4.5. I don't think it's very common, but there are a few otome games that have one female romance route, how are those generally received, and how do you feel about them if you played any? The one I heard most about is 月華繚乱ROMANCE. I think there was also one inspired by rose of Versailles. 5. is there any game that you had requested that you have no interest in covering? Or any scrapped video ideas you want to share? 6. do you read any original english visual novels? If so do you have any favorites.
Thanks for the video! A bromance game sounds like an awesome idea, but doing it like this is very uncool! For the Q&A: What are your favorite video game genres (besides dating sims)? What is your favorite and least favorite game ever?
Cool video as always! The change in style between the different versions of this game is kinda wild, just in completely changing the story like that. Though I suppose it's not the only time something like that has happened, albeit not quite like this. For the Q&A: - Of all the facts/tidbits/development info about games you've uncovered in your reviews, which do you consider to be the most fascinating? - And kinda related to the previous question: is there a game you wish you knew more about? Like something whose development is a mystery, or just something you're having a hard time finding in general, or along those lines. If that makes sense. - What's the weirdest game you've played (whether because of the game itself or the facts surrounding it)? - Of the videos you've made so far (and/or reviews more broadly, since I know you've talked about writing text reviews before starting making videod), what was your favorite to put together? Sorry if any of these questions don't make any sense, or are simply redundant compared to others' questions: I'm typing these up pretty late in the night, lol. Might ask more later if I can think of any before the deadline but these are probably my main ones.
Nooo, I lost the chance to drop a question for the Q&A T^T Congrats for the channel growing, I restarted to play dating sims mostly because of your videos (and got 2 endings for tokimeki - not Shiori thought haha), thank u for everything ^^ (and I do love when u do a video on a BL or gei game x3)
Haha, in terms of growth I think I hit a plateau a few months ago. I really appreciate all the folks viewing and commenting despite me being the way I am. And I'm glad my videos encouraged you to get into some dating sims again! There are not that many retro BL games compared to the Bishoujo scene, but I'll make sure to cover any essentials.
Getting lesbian jump scared in the best way possible by sudden buff lady at 6:24. What a time to be alive. I gotta say that this art style is super cute...especially the bushy eyebrows. Gotta love anime characters with cute, bushy eyebrows. It's also really interesting how the artist portrays Satoshi who's the 'young, cute one' in a way where he clearly looks younger and more innocent, but he's still meant to appeal to a gay male audience. AND THEN THE ARTIST'S MORE SIMPLY COLORING STYLE REVEAL AT THE END! Oh it would've been really cool to see it in that style...A really great and informative review as always! Now it's time for some questions for the Q&A!: 1. What's you favorite comfort food? 2. What are some of your favorite video game soundtracks? 3. Favorite girl in the whole of the Tokimemo series? And favorite boy in the Tokimemo Girl's Side?
The Guts! also has an OAV localized in English as [Women at Work], in case you're interested. Indeed we need more thick eyebrows and foreheads in Dating Sims! From what I looked up, Inukai Reiji has not updated his twitter in over a decade.. wonder what he's doing these days.
I think is a very fresh idea the sexuality of the character. I mean in all BL games that I played the protagonist is just the inexperienced gay I'm excited for the Q&A * - * My question is: did you play Princess Debut for nDS? I remember the game as one of my first official dating sims. it was very repetitive, and I couldn't get the childhood friend route (and didn't investigate how to get his ending XDDD) Do you want to make more live videos? I commented you in another video about popular old dating sims made with Flash. I'd love to see your reaction to old dating sims made with Flash XD
Other than making it impossible to romance straight dudes, it only changes the in-game text a bit, but a nice option to have. Oh, the Tokimemo longplay will be a recording since my equipment is nowhere close to snuff. (That's why I talked about doing post-edits.) I'll have to think real hard on the answers, too! Flash Dating Sims were a bit after my generation, and probably the only 'romantic' flash games I played were porn games on Newgrounds. Flash is dead now, right? Is there a site they're all preserved?
@@bapsago I think a big part of those dating sims from Flash are in Newgrounds, and they are still working (I checked Love Hina dating sim that was pretty popular and still works xdd) buuut it exists like an emulator that can run Flash games (bluemaxima's flashpoint) I never used it before, but it preserved a lot of games made with Flash
@@Gaticomewmew Newgrounds has a built in flash emulator engine that they used to preserve the work uploaded to the site! Tom Fulp is a HUGE proponent of Flash preservation, it's great. Internet Archive also preserves and runs flash games via the site as well.
Thank you so much for including the information about gei works in MASSIVE, as well as providing a ton of interesting research about the queer gaming climate at the time in Japan! I'm really glad that these days, gei and BL artists/fans are (for the most part) spread across all genders and sexualities, even in Japan. That's not to say there's still issues, since there's unfortunately been the rise of puritanical anti-queer anything movement under the guise of "being palatable to those in power" coming from inside the house, interfans STILL insisting on using oldass terminology like bara and yaoi while refusing to research the history of both+see what new artists are doing these days, as well as an incident where a geicomi fan lashed out at several big BL artists on twitter (some of who are friends with gei artists), accusing them of "benefiting" from a sadly deceased gei artist's style just because they also drew muscular men. This was thankfully resolved but honestly the West really REALLY needs to read more damn gay erotica imo Anyway, apologies for the essay, here's my question for the Q/A: if you were to make a dating sim, what mechanics would you like to explore, and what would be the premise?
Thanks for the compliment! I try to tread carefully since I'm not too familiar with the LGBTQ+ community myself, so it means a lot. And long comments are totally okay. Wow, accusing BL artists copying a deceased gei artist just for drawing muscular men is just hilarious and sad. That person must have a weird stereotype on what BL should be. Probably imagining the typical sharp face and Yaoi hands. BL manga artists like Uchida Kaoru existed long before muscle BL stuff became more common/popular.
For the Q&A: -What would be your favorite usage of a trope you dislike to the guts (In other words, an appropriate usage of a trope you often see used in ways upseting you greatly)/What would be the favorite parts of your least favorite piece of media? -Is is there other movies/shows you would like to talk about on your chanel? Not necesserly adaptations like with the Tokimeki Memorial video, but more like obscure South Korean shows & movies from your childhood for exemple. It's been a while since I watched your videos, nice work as ussual. See you next time.
I have two Q&A questions: 1. Out of all the games you've covered on Breaking Up, which would you say is the hardest (but fairest) as far the management gameplay goes? I really enjoy the management aspect of the games you cover so I'm particularly interested in your response to this. My basic second question is: 2. For the Tokimemo series (both boy's side and girl's side), who are you favorite love interests from the ones you played?
For the Q&A: Will you cover dating sims from the Ds? I would love to see you cover them! I love that the 3ds can play Ds games from other countries like Tomodachi Collection! ❤🎉
호타루......대학교 시절 만화동아리 홈피에 호타루를 소재로 만든 매드무비(이 표현 오래간만에 쓰네요)가 올라와 동아리가 후끈 달아올랐던(아니, 이상한 뜻이 아니라, 그냥 다들 무지 재미있어했다는 의미로요) 추억이 있네요. 세월이 흘러 다들 애아빠애엄마가 된 지금도 '호타루!'하면 얼굴을 마주보며 낄낄대는 추억의 작품......왜 게이 게임이 대학시절 추억의 작품이 된건지는 생각하지 않기로 하고요. QA는 육성게임이나 미연시랑 관계 없는 것도 가능한가요? 예를들어 러시아의 우크라이나 침략을 멈추게 하는 법이라든지 빅뱅 5분 전의 우주는 어떤 상태였는지 라던가...
호타루 나왔을 적 서브컬쳐 팔 정도로 나이가 있었던 분들은 알겠지만(후들후들) 당시 나름 화제였잖아요. 남초게시판에서는 BL/게이 구별못해서 동인녀들 이딴거 왜하냐는 소리나 해대고.. 같은 매드무비(추억의 단어) 얘기하시는지 모르겠지만 니코동에도 있는 호타루 프린세스던가.. 적어도 게임을 플레이하고 만든 것은 알 수 있었습니다. 상당히 정성이 들어간.. 네 여태 받은 질문들은 다 게임 관련인데 사실 어떤 소재든 상관없어요 답하고 말고는 제 맘이니까! 다만 저 두 질문은 저로서 시원한 대답을 할 수 있을지는 잘 모르겠습니다ㅋㅋㅋ
Oh my god, someone else knows that this game exists!! I'm so glad you mentioned Makoto Aoki's playthrough! I own all of the games, but I need to make time to play through them properly. I honestly really like Inukai's art, haha. The art shift in Hotaru 3 was really surprising. And how did you get your hands on Ichi?! I need to see if I can buy a copy of its CD from Surugaya when I'm in Japan next month...
Hotaru 3 had the best voice acting and the worst artwork. It sucks that the FANZA version of Hotaru Aizouban does not include Ichi. As for me, I still have my pirated CD-roms from the early 2000s(I know.). They run surprisingly well. Just checked Surugaya and Ichi's in stock at 720 yen. Not a bad price.
This was a blast to watch! There's something about your videos that scratches that itch in my brain for dating sim content. Here're my Q&A questions: If you could bring back one dating sim/visual novel series, what would it be and why? Also, if you could bring in someone who's never worked on a dating sim/visual novel to work on one, who would you pick?
Q&A question: What is the strangest Otome/Dating Sim game you've played and/or have in your collection? Like, the kind of game where the premise is so bizarre but so interesting that it keeps you playing.
Great video as always! It's crazy to see how they went through all of that trouble to no-homo a very gay game lol. As someone that works in game dev, I would of LOVED to of been a fly on the wall in the meetings in regards to that choice. For the Q&A: Are there any Western VNs or ADV games that seem interesting to you?
The original Hotaru2 had two vocal songs and both of them were romantic. One change might have been to make the new opening song real hot-blooded since that's like super manly or something.
I was dying of laughter watching this episode with my sister and my mom, the thing about the two sexualities 'gay' and 'inexperienced gay' left me out of air on the floor 🤣🤣🤣 What happened to Satoshi seemed too unfair to me, and he spent only a year working for that bastard and he forgives him, I think that at that time they did not connect emotionally with certain stories and they did not want to think too much to give it a more realistic ending, they could simply say that Satoshi continued to hold a grudge and call it a day, I demand that they rewrite that story 😂 thank you for the video For the Q&A: After playing many sim date games growing up, have you ever been interested in creating your own game? And if you have thought about it, have you ever imagined a plot for it and a cast of characters? What tropes you would discard and what tropes would be your favorites?
Oooh, happy to contribute to your family quality time! It's as if everyone just expected Satoshi to 'play along' since he's the youngest and cheery one who never forgets to put a smile on his face. Satoshi's Normal Bro ending involves him quitting his job and going to America to study astrology, so I assume he in truth could not bear staying there anymore. Hence, the Normal ending will be my headcanon.
Q&A: omg I didn't know there was this entire gei subculture. As a gay man, I've only ever been exposed to what you called "in between games" as BL games more for men. Do you have any good gei work reccomendations, and ideas on how to access them? Thanks!
You hear similar stuff about men's gay clubs sometimes being invaded by, say, bridesmaid parties. Though I guess that's less about being a "fan" of male homosexuality and more about ogling dudes with no expectation of being hit on. Not surprised the company toned down the warning on their website, though. Fujoshi money spends just the same Looking forward to the tokimemo longplay! Q: what sorts of games do you enjoy outside of the dating sim/adventure game/visnovel zone, if any? Any specific recommendations of media in general, games/movies/books? Of the especially nasty protagonists we've seen, who do you think would win in a contest of unpleasantness and why? And who is the best love interest who can do no wrong?
Yeah, more like a wannabe f*g hag methinks. I was not aware bridesmaid parties raided men's gay clubs. Perhaps a bit better than going to a strip bar for a bachelor party? I was an intrigued party back in the days(the age was not quite there though lol), so I assume quite a few fujoshis were interested as well.
사실 1이나 3에 비하면 2작화가 가장 괜찮지않았나 싶네요 ㅋㅋ3는 작붕이 너무 심각해서.. 뭐 그냥 나온 시기를 생각하면 무난무난 괜찮은(?)게임 아니였나 싶음 일단 공략대상들이 중간중간 모브들이랑 관계가지는데서 순결중시(?!)플레이어는 불편할수있다거나 매회차마다 타이요 노래를 강제로 감상해야한다거나 하는 문제를 제외하면.. 그나저나 도키메모가 벌써 저렇게 나이를 먹어버렸네요 저 당시에 저렇게 완성도높은게임이 나왔었다는게 새삼 신기할따름ㅋㅋ 그나저나 트랜스때도 특이한픽 고르셨구나 싶었는데 결국 염다류가 ㅋㅋ..
for the q&a: is there any idea or concept you would think it would ben interesting to see in a game?,like out of nowhere thinking "this could be a great game if it was real?"
OH this title! the idea of No-Homo-ifying a game as gay as this is hilarious. i guess gay men who are also gamers was such a small audience at the time that they ported it to reach a wider audience but i still can't help but wonder what the point was. my question: do you have any limits regarding what the premise of a romance game/visual novel contains? like are there any tropes that you cannot stand seeing? there's a bunch of specific game titles i'd really like to ask you if you'd played/heard of but that'd be excessive i think
Seriously, they could have just treated it like any other adult BL game adaptation. It's not like Sukisho for consoles was changed to a friendship game. Besides, I bet some Simple Series games sold worse.
I don't know how to feel about this game lol! But excellent video, like always! I don't really have a question for you Q&A, but I wish! I'm super new to anything dating sim and I don't speak neither Korean or Japanese so I don't have access to much content. But just opening the gate of the rabbit hole was everything I needed! I love this universe, sometimes I'm sad to not having to live the phenomenon back in the days. Every videos, I'm learning something new and it just nourish my imagination to a whole new point! I hope someday I'll be able to make my own game... Oh, maybe I have a question. What's the video game we see in the presentation channel vid, the one with the girl in a flower pot? Thanks again for your work 🫶
Thanks for the comment as always! I really appreciate that you are enjoying my videos despite not having previous knowledge of the genre, and are willing to learn new things based on the stuff I made. Gives me motivation to chug on..albeit slowly lol Your question will go answered. I will elaborate on it, too :D
do you mean just GAYS being bros? ;^) (for q&A) what was the biggest culture shock you experienced between canada and south korea? and if all of the tokimemo girls fought in a coliseum, who would win?
I always wonder what it must be like for gay guys getting ogled at by fujoshi Do they feel the same way as women getting ogled at by creepy old men? I wonder... Either way, I'm still really excited for Jock Studio Question! Do you have interest in reviewing newer dating sims/VNs?
No one would have liked being viewed like a zoo animal, I assume. Plus it's a real invasion of their privacy. Apparently Jock Studio is from the Camp Buddy developers? Heard of and saw some CGs but never played it.
I gasped out loud at Daisuke Ono being in this. It's a small world....
The script being so vehemently no-homo'd is something I understand from a business perspective, but the game still feels really unique for it. I think a mod for this that keeps the "just bros" script but has all the original casually horny CGs, dongs and all, wouldn't be out of place for a surreal comedy game today.
My questions for the Q&A: What equipment do you use to record? And/or what was your favourite episode to write?
And a very,very fresh Ono D at that!
The original Hotaru2 also had urinal pissing CGs for each character. If anyone is to make a mod, that should be totally added in.
Tricking straight people into reading sanitized gay porn is so funny lmao. Such an interesting choice... you gotta respect it. Hearing a bit about the history of bara was cool too, I enjoy me some occasional art but didn't really know much about its roots.
In terms of Q&A questions, just off the top of my head:
- Do you also read visual novels that aren't dating sims and if so, what are your favorites?
- How did you get into dating sims and how did your consumption of them change as you grew older, if at all? I remember you touching on this in a previous video but would be cool to have in a Q&A too.
- If you grew up playing dating sims, did you ever have any awkward moments with friends or family in regards to their content?
- What are some of your favorite tropes in dating sims if you have any? Story-wise or for example character archetypes you enjoy.
- Do you read regular ole books as well and if so, what are your favorites?
- Do you also play other types of video games?
- Was there any specific catalyst that resulted in you starting a TH-cam channel or did you simply get the urge to share your interest in dating sims one day?
- Is there any dating sim you really want to read but haven't been able to for some reason (not available in a language you know, impossible to find etc.)?
- Also some general topics I'd find interesting to hear about: your favorite and least favorite dating sims, your favorite artists or simply what game has your favorite art, sims that surprised you (positively or negatively), ones that you othewise really liked but got ruined by one particular thing you just can't stand...
Sorry that it's a bit chaotic but that's what came to mind immediately! Maybe one or two are worth answering
Check out this manly men doing manly things in this manly man job! Full of fiery hot blooded passion..or something. Really contradicts the original Hotaru 2's premise where it was made more to look like a trendy worksite tv drama(full of horny gay employees).
I wanted to say this on the Rival Schools video but YT moderation deleted my comment
I recommend looking up Masanori's artwork, he's done a lot of art of Rival School characters (it's pretty nice ☺)
He's also responsible for the art in Hunk's Workshop (which also has music from Namco Fame Shinji Hosoe and his music group)
Happy to see you review more bara/BL games!
I remember Capcom fanart was everywhere in gei fanart in the early 2000s.
And duuude, I was such a big Masanori fan I emailed FG begging to sell me Hunk's Workshop overseas. They were really nice and obliged. It's still preserved in the paper envelope it originally came in, haha.
And sorry for TH-cam eating the comments. I always check the 'Held for Review' tab, but nothing was there😔
Yay! New video! :3
As a gay guy, it's very interesting to learn about bara/gei dating sims! I really like the artstyle. All of the love interests are attractive (except for Seta), but I think Mamoru is the best.. I can see why he's the most popular character! 😍
It's funny how they turned the game's narrative into a bromance, but it does seem like they were able to write a decent story. Imagine playing the game as a kid, and later finding out it was a p*rn game 😭
My questions for the Q&A are the following:
- Who's your favorite(s) Tokimemo 1 character?
- When and Why did you start writing video game reviews?
- What are your favorite video game genres and consoles?
- Have you ever traveled outside of South Korea?
- Do you like Sanrio? If you do, who's your favorite character?
- Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo, or PC?
- How many languages do you know?
I know that's a lot of questions.. 😅 I'm excited to see your playthrough of Tokimemo 1! :3
Hotaru's artwork is pretty unique compared to other gei games released around that time. I like Inukai's artwork too, but prefer his flat/b&w stuff.
I don't think Seta looks bad as a character, but all his doings makes his overall soft feature pretty superficial. Taiyou is supposed to be the hot one, but Orio is love.
If you were a gay kid who played this to later find out you were able to have sex with the guys all along, guess it won't be too bad, right?
For the Q&A: I don't have a question to ask but in your Tokimemo 1 video, you said Yukiko from Tokimemo 3 is unintentionally the most hated heroine in the series. I've been waiting for 2.5 years for an explanation why! I just wanted to thank you for making these videos. Seeing these old games being talked about brings back some good memories of a simpler time. I'm a big fan of the channel and I hope that the Tokimemo 3 video comes out someday (soon?).
Thanks for the encouragement! Perhaps someday. Not that soon I think. Let's see how life turns out.
At the time of Tokimemo3 Makihara did place second last in the popularity poll right above her best friend(Chitose). Nothing against the character; as I stated in the video she was a mere victim the revamped Bomb mechanic that was only utilized in Tokimemo3.
for q&a
1. how common are "otome villainesses"? it's a popular trope currently in isekai stuff especially, and it's presented as a given in otome games. I don't play otome, really, but it doesn't seem too accurate to the english-translated titles that I know of. The only one I can think of is angelique , but even the villainess there doesn't seem to fully fit the bill as depicted in other media. So are they a myth or do they exist? How do you feel about them yourself, real or imagined. (and how do you feel about otome isekais in general, for that matter)
2. How many languages do you know? Have you learned any of them for the primary (or one of the primary) purpose of understanding games?
3. do you know of any japanese (or korean) creators that do similiar retrospectives/reviews on older games in video format?
4. The discussion of gei games made me think about it, yuri as a genre is more ambigious but *is* there an equivalent for it in games? As in, games specifically targeted towards a gay female (lesbian) demographic. Additionally, I know you talked about yuri genre in one video, are there any other game you want to cover?
4.5. I don't think it's very common, but there are a few otome games that have one female romance route, how are those generally received, and how do you feel about them if you played any? The one I heard most about is 月華繚乱ROMANCE. I think there was also one inspired by rose of Versailles.
5. is there any game that you had requested that you have no interest in covering? Or any scrapped video ideas you want to share?
6. do you read any original english visual novels? If so do you have any favorites.
Thanks for the video! A bromance game sounds like an awesome idea, but doing it like this is very uncool!
For the Q&A: What are your favorite video game genres (besides dating sims)? What is your favorite and least favorite game ever?
Cool video as always! The change in style between the different versions of this game is kinda wild, just in completely changing the story like that. Though I suppose it's not the only time something like that has happened, albeit not quite like this.
For the Q&A:
- Of all the facts/tidbits/development info about games you've uncovered in your reviews, which do you consider to be the most fascinating?
- And kinda related to the previous question: is there a game you wish you knew more about? Like something whose development is a mystery, or just something you're having a hard time finding in general, or along those lines. If that makes sense.
- What's the weirdest game you've played (whether because of the game itself or the facts surrounding it)?
- Of the videos you've made so far (and/or reviews more broadly, since I know you've talked about writing text reviews before starting making videod), what was your favorite to put together?
Sorry if any of these questions don't make any sense, or are simply redundant compared to others' questions: I'm typing these up pretty late in the night, lol. Might ask more later if I can think of any before the deadline but these are probably my main ones.
...and of course now I see somebody already asked "what was your favorite episode to write" >.
In my sister's words, a blatant example of queer erasure in a video game.
@@bapsago Yeah. It's always very telling to see what kinds of content are treated as expendable in the name of broader marketing or whatever.
Nooo, I lost the chance to drop a question for the Q&A T^T Congrats for the channel growing, I restarted to play dating sims mostly because of your videos (and got 2 endings for tokimeki - not Shiori thought haha), thank u for everything ^^ (and I do love when u do a video on a BL or gei game x3)
Haha, in terms of growth I think I hit a plateau a few months ago. I really appreciate all the folks viewing and commenting despite me being the way I am.
And I'm glad my videos encouraged you to get into some dating sims again! There are not that many retro BL games compared to the Bishoujo scene, but I'll make sure to cover any essentials.
Getting lesbian jump scared in the best way possible by sudden buff lady at 6:24. What a time to be alive.
I gotta say that this art style is super cute...especially the bushy eyebrows. Gotta love anime characters with cute, bushy eyebrows. It's also really interesting how the artist portrays Satoshi who's the 'young, cute one' in a way where he clearly looks younger and more innocent, but he's still meant to appeal to a gay male audience. AND THEN THE ARTIST'S MORE SIMPLY COLORING STYLE REVEAL AT THE END! Oh it would've been really cool to see it in that style...A really great and informative review as always!
Now it's time for some questions for the Q&A!:
1. What's you favorite comfort food?
2. What are some of your favorite video game soundtracks?
3. Favorite girl in the whole of the Tokimemo series? And favorite boy in the Tokimemo Girl's Side?
The Guts! also has an OAV localized in English as [Women at Work], in case you're interested.
Indeed we need more thick eyebrows and foreheads in Dating Sims!
From what I looked up, Inukai Reiji has not updated his twitter in over a decade.. wonder what he's doing these days.
I think is a very fresh idea the sexuality of the character. I mean in all BL games that I played the protagonist is just the inexperienced gay
I'm excited for the Q&A * - *
My question is: did you play Princess Debut for nDS?
I remember the game as one of my first official dating sims. it was very repetitive, and I couldn't get the childhood friend route (and didn't investigate how to get his ending XDDD)
Do you want to make more live videos?
I commented you in another video about popular old dating sims made with Flash. I'd love to see your reaction to old dating sims made with Flash XD
Other than making it impossible to romance straight dudes, it only changes the in-game text a bit, but a nice option to have.
Oh, the Tokimemo longplay will be a recording since my equipment is nowhere close to snuff. (That's why I talked about doing post-edits.) I'll have to think real hard on the answers, too!
Flash Dating Sims were a bit after my generation, and probably the only 'romantic' flash games I played were porn games on Newgrounds. Flash is dead now, right? Is there a site they're all preserved?
@@bapsago I think a big part of those dating sims from Flash are in Newgrounds, and they are still working (I checked Love Hina dating sim that was pretty popular and still works xdd)
buuut it exists like an emulator that can run Flash games (bluemaxima's flashpoint) I never used it before, but it preserved a lot of games made with Flash
@@Gaticomewmew Newgrounds has a built in flash emulator engine that they used to preserve the work uploaded to the site! Tom Fulp is a HUGE proponent of Flash preservation, it's great.
Internet Archive also preserves and runs flash games via the site as well.
Thank you so much for including the information about gei works in MASSIVE, as well as providing a ton of interesting research about the queer gaming climate at the time in Japan! I'm really glad that these days, gei and BL artists/fans are (for the most part) spread across all genders and sexualities, even in Japan.
That's not to say there's still issues, since there's unfortunately been the rise of puritanical anti-queer anything movement under the guise of "being palatable to those in power" coming from inside the house, interfans STILL insisting on using oldass terminology like bara and yaoi while refusing to research the history of both+see what new artists are doing these days, as well as an incident where a geicomi fan lashed out at several big BL artists on twitter (some of who are friends with gei artists), accusing them of "benefiting" from a sadly deceased gei artist's style just because they also drew muscular men.
This was thankfully resolved but honestly the West really REALLY needs to read more damn gay erotica imo
Anyway, apologies for the essay, here's my question for the Q/A: if you were to make a dating sim, what mechanics would you like to explore, and what would be the premise?
also the fact that they no homo'd the script makes the SFW version ten times even more gay and horny LOOOOL
Thanks for the compliment! I try to tread carefully since I'm not too familiar with the LGBTQ+ community myself, so it means a lot. And long comments are totally okay.
Wow, accusing BL artists copying a deceased gei artist just for drawing muscular men is just hilarious and sad. That person must have a weird stereotype on what BL should be. Probably imagining the typical sharp face and Yaoi hands. BL manga artists like Uchida Kaoru existed long before muscle BL stuff became more common/popular.
For the Q&A:
-What would be your favorite usage of a trope you dislike to the guts (In other words, an appropriate usage of a trope you often see used in ways upseting you greatly)/What would be the favorite parts of your least favorite piece of media?
-Is is there other movies/shows you would like to talk about on your chanel? Not necesserly adaptations like with the Tokimeki Memorial video, but more like obscure South Korean shows & movies from your childhood for exemple.
It's been a while since I watched your videos, nice work as ussual.
See you next time.
I have two Q&A questions:
1. Out of all the games you've covered on Breaking Up, which would you say is the hardest (but fairest) as far the management gameplay goes?
I really enjoy the management aspect of the games you cover so I'm particularly interested in your response to this. My basic second question is:
2. For the Tokimemo series (both boy's side and girl's side), who are you favorite love interests from the ones you played?
Hello Bapsago! Thank you for making fire 🔥 vids
For the Q&A: Will you cover dating sims from the Ds? I would love to see you cover them! I love that the 3ds can play Ds games from other countries like Tomodachi Collection! ❤🎉
호타루......대학교 시절 만화동아리 홈피에 호타루를 소재로 만든 매드무비(이 표현 오래간만에 쓰네요)가 올라와 동아리가 후끈 달아올랐던(아니, 이상한 뜻이 아니라, 그냥 다들 무지 재미있어했다는 의미로요) 추억이 있네요. 세월이 흘러 다들 애아빠애엄마가 된 지금도 '호타루!'하면 얼굴을 마주보며 낄낄대는 추억의 작품......왜 게이 게임이 대학시절 추억의 작품이 된건지는 생각하지 않기로 하고요.
QA는 육성게임이나 미연시랑 관계 없는 것도 가능한가요? 예를들어 러시아의 우크라이나 침략을 멈추게 하는 법이라든지 빅뱅 5분 전의 우주는 어떤 상태였는지 라던가...
호타루 나왔을 적 서브컬쳐 팔 정도로 나이가 있었던 분들은 알겠지만(후들후들) 당시 나름 화제였잖아요. 남초게시판에서는 BL/게이 구별못해서 동인녀들 이딴거 왜하냐는 소리나 해대고..
같은 매드무비(추억의 단어) 얘기하시는지 모르겠지만 니코동에도 있는 호타루 프린세스던가.. 적어도 게임을 플레이하고 만든 것은 알 수 있었습니다. 상당히 정성이 들어간..
네 여태 받은 질문들은 다 게임 관련인데 사실 어떤 소재든 상관없어요 답하고 말고는 제 맘이니까! 다만 저 두 질문은 저로서 시원한 대답을 할 수 있을지는 잘 모르겠습니다ㅋㅋㅋ
Oh my god, someone else knows that this game exists!! I'm so glad you mentioned Makoto Aoki's playthrough! I own all of the games, but I need to make time to play through them properly. I honestly really like Inukai's art, haha. The art shift in Hotaru 3 was really surprising.
And how did you get your hands on Ichi?! I need to see if I can buy a copy of its CD from Surugaya when I'm in Japan next month...
Hotaru 3 had the best voice acting and the worst artwork.
It sucks that the FANZA version of Hotaru Aizouban does not include Ichi. As for me, I still have my pirated CD-roms from the early 2000s(I know.). They run surprisingly well. Just checked Surugaya and Ichi's in stock at 720 yen. Not a bad price.
This was a blast to watch! There's something about your videos that scratches that itch in my brain for dating sim content. Here're my Q&A questions: If you could bring back one dating sim/visual novel series, what would it be and why?
Also, if you could bring in someone who's never worked on a dating sim/visual novel to work on one, who would you pick?
Q&A question: What is the strangest Otome/Dating Sim game you've played and/or have in your collection? Like, the kind of game where the premise is so bizarre but so interesting that it keeps you playing.
Great video as always! It's crazy to see how they went through all of that trouble to no-homo a very gay game lol. As someone that works in game dev, I would of LOVED to of been a fly on the wall in the meetings in regards to that choice.
For the Q&A: Are there any Western VNs or ADV games that seem interesting to you?
The original Hotaru2 had two vocal songs and both of them were romantic. One change might have been to make the new opening song real hot-blooded since that's like super manly or something.
I was dying of laughter watching this episode with my sister and my mom, the thing about the two sexualities 'gay' and 'inexperienced gay' left me out of air on the floor 🤣🤣🤣
What happened to Satoshi seemed too unfair to me, and he spent only a year working for that bastard and he forgives him, I think that at that time they did not connect emotionally with certain stories and they did not want to think too much to give it a more realistic ending, they could simply say that Satoshi continued to hold a grudge and call it a day, I demand that they rewrite that story 😂 thank you for the video
For the Q&A:
After playing many sim date games growing up, have you ever been interested in creating your own game? And if you have thought about it, have you ever imagined a plot for it and a cast of characters? What tropes you would discard and what tropes would be your favorites?
Oooh, happy to contribute to your family quality time!
It's as if everyone just expected Satoshi to 'play along' since he's the youngest and cheery one who never forgets to put a smile on his face.
Satoshi's Normal Bro ending involves him quitting his job and going to America to study astrology, so I assume he in truth could not bear staying there anymore. Hence, the Normal ending will be my headcanon.
Q&A: omg I didn't know there was this entire gei subculture. As a gay man, I've only ever been exposed to what you called "in between games" as BL games more for men.
Do you have any good gei work reccomendations, and ideas on how to access them? Thanks!
You hear similar stuff about men's gay clubs sometimes being invaded by, say, bridesmaid parties. Though I guess that's less about being a "fan" of male homosexuality and more about ogling dudes with no expectation of being hit on. Not surprised the company toned down the warning on their website, though. Fujoshi money spends just the same
Looking forward to the tokimemo longplay! Q: what sorts of games do you enjoy outside of the dating sim/adventure game/visnovel zone, if any? Any specific recommendations of media in general, games/movies/books? Of the especially nasty protagonists we've seen, who do you think would win in a contest of unpleasantness and why? And who is the best love interest who can do no wrong?
Yeah, more like a wannabe f*g hag methinks.
I was not aware bridesmaid parties raided men's gay clubs. Perhaps a bit better than going to a strip bar for a bachelor party?
I was an intrigued party back in the days(the age was not quite there though lol), so I assume quite a few fujoshis were interested as well.
사실 1이나 3에 비하면 2작화가 가장 괜찮지않았나 싶네요 ㅋㅋ3는 작붕이 너무 심각해서..
뭐 그냥 나온 시기를 생각하면 무난무난 괜찮은(?)게임 아니였나 싶음 일단 공략대상들이 중간중간 모브들이랑 관계가지는데서 순결중시(?!)플레이어는 불편할수있다거나 매회차마다 타이요 노래를 강제로 감상해야한다거나 하는 문제를 제외하면..
그나저나 도키메모가 벌써 저렇게 나이를 먹어버렸네요 저 당시에 저렇게 완성도높은게임이 나왔었다는게 새삼 신기할따름ㅋㅋ
그나저나 트랜스때도 특이한픽 고르셨구나 싶었는데 결국 염다류가 ㅋㅋ..
호타루3 성우연기는 가장 좋았는데 작화가 영 아니었죠.
저도 호타루2 발매당시 재미있게 했어요! 플2판 나오자마자 바로 구입하고ㅋㅋ
타이요 노래는 나중에 스킵 가능한 패치 나왔더라고요.
으읅..오리오와 수위아저씨의 악몽이...
순결주의자들은 게이로 논케를 공략해서 다른 남자들이랑 엮이는 것을 방지하면 됩니다!ㅋㅋ 세타 데스크는 어떻게든 국장과 그런사이겠지만.
도키메모 뭐~ 우리..아니 저보다는 어리죠. 서른살이면 젊네요! ㅠㅠ
for the q&a: is there any idea or concept you would think it would ben interesting to see in a game?,like out of nowhere thinking "this could be a great game if it was real?"
This is probably a gay heaven.
They're just broing out 😉
OH this title! the idea of No-Homo-ifying a game as gay as this is hilarious. i guess gay men who are also gamers was such a small audience at the time that they ported it to reach a wider audience but i still can't help but wonder what the point was.
my question: do you have any limits regarding what the premise of a romance game/visual novel contains? like are there any tropes that you cannot stand seeing?
there's a bunch of specific game titles i'd really like to ask you if you'd played/heard of but that'd be excessive i think
Seriously, they could have just treated it like any other adult BL game adaptation. It's not like Sukisho for consoles was changed to a friendship game. Besides, I bet some Simple Series games sold worse.
I don't know how to feel about this game lol! But excellent video, like always!
I don't really have a question for you Q&A, but I wish! I'm super new to anything dating sim and I don't speak neither Korean or Japanese so I don't have access to much content. But just opening the gate of the rabbit hole was everything I needed! I love this universe, sometimes I'm sad to not having to live the phenomenon back in the days. Every videos, I'm learning something new and it just nourish my imagination to a whole new point!
I hope someday I'll be able to make my own game...
Oh, maybe I have a question. What's the video game we see in the presentation channel vid, the one with the girl in a flower pot?
Thanks again for your work 🫶
Thanks for the comment as always!
I really appreciate that you are enjoying my videos despite not having previous knowledge of the genre, and are willing to learn new things based on the stuff I made. Gives me motivation to chug on..albeit slowly lol
Your question will go answered. I will elaborate on it, too :D
For the Q & A:
Who was the most obtuse or difficult character for you to romance in your years of playing dating sims?
Question for the q&a: how would you design a main heroine for a dating sim?
do you mean just GAYS being bros? ;^)
(for q&A) what was the biggest culture shock you experienced between canada and south korea? and if all of the tokimemo girls fought in a coliseum, who would win?
Good question! (for both!)
Naw man, they're just bros having some quality bro time.
I always wonder what it must be like for gay guys getting ogled at by fujoshi
Do they feel the same way as women getting ogled at by creepy old men? I wonder...
Either way, I'm still really excited for Jock Studio
Question! Do you have interest in reviewing newer dating sims/VNs?
No one would have liked being viewed like a zoo animal, I assume. Plus it's a real invasion of their privacy.
Apparently Jock Studio is from the Camp Buddy developers? Heard of and saw some CGs but never played it.