Mark, hats off. I watched the whole video without any interruption. Very entertaining, interesting down to earth presentation or your personal experience. Loved it
Best personal and useful description of the power of V12 I've seen on TH-cam yet, Mark. My experience exactly, especially as you described going from V11 to V12. Hope you'll do more...especially as you get that CT.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy It has for me already. I've never had a vehicle that just keeps getting better and better. It's stunning. The new FSD is the biggest upgrade yet. BTW, does the last part of your video mean that you also bought a Cybertruck? I actually have a day 1 Cybertruck pre-order and got the offer but decided to wait until the post Foundation era to get the $7500 rebate and avoid the bleeding edge issues that go with any cutting edge product. That said, I like the Model Y I bought as a stopgap more and more all the time. Decisions...
So true. A lot of people that are ignorant and haters do talk out their a** when it comes to Tesla cars. I kept my mind open when I got my model 3 long range in 2022. I also was blown away with the model 3. Have fun with the model x.
I ordered the cyber truck when it was unveiled was because it was touted to be 6 seater with trimotor $69k with 500+ mi range. Now it’s a 5 seater for over $120k for 340 mi range. I’m up for my reservation, but no longer so interested so much. I don’t want it just because all the celebrities or rich guys want to flash their new overpriced toy. I’ll wait until they either bring back the original configuration or design a nice cyber van that is nicer for road-trips. Congratulations on your awesome Model X!!
Mark, Excellent video. Best advert for Tesla I’ve seen. Cut it into ‘shorts’ and post everywhere. Segment from 12:10 - 12:30 is spectacular! And 6:30-6:49.
FSD for Cybertruck is coming. Thank-you for calling BS on range anxiety. These keyboard warriors that claim they can drive 16 hours without ever lifting off the accelerator are ridiculous.
@@TroySavary Hi keyboard warrior. FYI: It's more like 150 miles and the charging time is more like 25 minutes. And I fully expect that charging time to go down as Tesla figures out the charging curve for the 46-80 cells. But nice try.
@@theodorehaskins3756 He didn't say he doesn't like Tesla. He just said he is keeping his diesel to tow. Why is it so cult like with Tesla fans? You must absolutely praise everything they do, or you are a hater.
I've long suffered *range anxiety* on me olde 2011 BMW M3, in the rural mountains, rare but important, about 300 miles. As liquid fuel becomes more scarce? Electricity is and will be everywhere.
I canceled my Cybertruck order too and bought a Model Y a couple weeks ago. FSD is mind blowing, I flippin’ love it! Will I see ya at Coverings in Atlanta?
Long range model Y. V11 was fun but V12 is amazing. I use it now for most of my driving. I did a FSD drive from Wilsonville to Depoe Bay and back with just 1 intervention last week. Then i did a drive over to Bend with zero interventions. It makes a longer drive so much less tiring.
LOL the more you drive your Tesla the worse you will think of any other car and see that they are built to break. Grats on your purchase Mark welcome to the club.
Truly loved your video. Just like everyone else says, it’s finally hear from a normal person who’s not a fanboy. You nailed it man, this is why Tesla’s marketing plan has always been to simply get butts in the seats, and let the experience sell the car. Love your perspective and honesty!
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I saw some action on vids that were beyond uncomfortable to a little scary at the least. Like turning toward oncoming traffic, granted usually very slow speed but senseless movements. Obviously YOU know better than I.
A tip I saw on another video has helped me with the nagging. Turn the volume up and down one notch with the left wheel button. Been far less annoying since I learned that.
We just bought a model Y and have the same release FSD. Going on the highway, it started to turn onto the highway shoulder on the right just a few hundred feet before the actual exit ramp. Sometimes you still have to take over and correct it. We also notice it hesitates especially when going around traffic circles and can’t decide if it can beat the other cars or not. Once it entered and changed it’s mind and immediately disengaged FSD. Left us half in and half out with people giving us a strange look. Partially solved by putting on one of those “Please be patient, Student driver” stickers on the back. 😂
My Model S Plaid was my first EV and 3rd car in our household. Being a tech guy I absolutely love it, however, I wouldn't keep it as our only vehicle. Tesla's service is not on par with almost any other manufacturer and if anything goes wrong it takes weeks to get anything fixed. Other than that I love my MSP and FSD V12 really has been a game changer. Congrats on the new car, the Model X is fantastic. Wait until they have HW4 trained and your not running in HW3 emulation, it should be way better.
A great story, nicely told. Ordered my Model X a month after Elon announced FSD in Oct 2016. They were still giving away supercharging for life tied to the VIN. I'm still in love.
version 11 was like letting an 11 year old drive your car, and version 12 is like letting a 14 year old drive it, it's SO MUCH BETTER, but it's still like being a driving instructor, you have to pay more attention than if you just drive yourself
Hey Mark, thanks for the video, and the ride along, you come across as the genuine person, love your canter and your banter, and you keep being you, my friend. So I just got into a 2024 L/R, dual motor all-wheel-drive Tesla Model S, and my trade-in was a L/ R, duel motor, all-wheel-drive, Tesla Model 3, with FSD full self driving. So I’ve seen every iteration of the software from the very get-go, and I’m talking about when the price was 3K, and so I signed up immediately, and paid the 3K, and watched it go to 5K to 8K to 12K, to 15K, and now back to 12K, so it’s anybody’s guess where it will go from here. So I couldn’t agree with you more, that going from V11 to V12, it’s like night and day. I mean it’s as if FSD went from being a toddler to being a young man in an instant, that’s how good V12 is, compare to V11, and I’m currently on V12.3.3. So I think the subscription idea was a good idea, but not at $200 a month, but at $99 a month, definitely a better deal, and oh BTW, the reason I traded in my Model 3 was because they allowed me to transfer my FSD from the Model 3 to the Model S, and so you can see that’s a substantial savings right there, not to mention all the other benefits of owning an EV, especially a Tesla. So there was no way I was going to pass up a 2nd chance to make that transfer, because the 1st time around, I just wasn’t prepared to deal, but when they came out with the 2nd window, I said, I gotta go, no way I’m gonna pass this up a 2nd time, as I know a good deal when I see one. So full disclosure, I wasn’t much of a Tesla fan, as I never thought that they would succeed, although I did like the idea of having an electric car, but I didn’t think they could make such a car, and even after I heard them announce the launch of the Model S, I thought it was way to expensive, and so I wasn’t prepared to deal, but when Elon started to talk about a self driving car, that sparked my interest, and it was at that point, I was all in. So full disclosure, I don’t own Tesla stock, because I don’t own stock in any company, and it’s not that I’m opposed to owning Tesla stock or any other company stock, I am just not interested in living my life worrying about the price of a company’s stock or where the stock market is, however, haven’t said that, like most people I have a general interest in the markets, and on occasion certain companies catch my eye, such as a Tesla, and now Nvidia has been in the news quite often, but again I don’t buy individual stocks, I buy funds, and so if the fund managers bought Tesla’s stock, then I own it indirectly through the fund, but not as an individual who decided to buy Tesla stock, and so whether the stock is up or down or sideways I really don’t pay much attention to it, because I don’t own the company’s stock directly. So Warren Buffett said something that stuck with me, and it was this, “never invest in things you don’t understand, and I think that’s wise counsel, and a good rule of thumb for anyone, and so I’ve added another idea to that rule, and that is, “don’t invest in things that will keep you up at night,” as life is already filled with so many pitfalls, why add another one to your life, therefore, I pay other people to worry about whether or not the stock is up or down or sideways, as my job is to live my best life that I can possibly live without worrying about things outside of my control. So I’ve also learned something else too, and that is money is something you need only in case you don’t die tomorrow, because if you died today or tomorrow, you will have had all the money you ever needed. So live your best life, and live your life like it’s the last day of your life, because for somebody in this world it truly is, and will be your last day too. So thanks again for the video, and the ride along, and stay safe out there. Enjoy your Tesla, enjoy your life, look forward to your next road trip video. Cheers 🥂
I'm ADHD and mildly autistic, I've been struggling FOR MONTHS to explain why I bought a 2022 Model 3 vs. anything else under $34,000 in the used market. When you said something along the lines of "it's the opposite, you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it's so wrong you should probably start asking myself 'what else am I wrong about". THAT'S IT. that is what i've been trying to put words to for months now. goddamn I wish I could find words like find errors in processes and spreadsheets. thank you. subbed.
Glad I'm not the only one that thought FSD v11 SUCKED outside of the places Whole Mars showed in his videos. Like it was literally no more useful than base autopilot. FSD v12 on the other hand is a HUGE improvement, so much so that it is actually useful now. It has been so fun to ride with this past month.
How much was the charger put at your home originally?? Never heard what that cost to install on your home plus if you only have 100 amp service you’re in trouble!!!
100 amps? 😆 I don’t live in a hut. I bought a NEMA 1450 plug and slapped it under my panel in about an hour. Cost me maybe 100 bucks for the wire, box, plug etc.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I said what do you have house amperage if you have, not you specifically have 100 amp service & live in a city with no parking in front of your house, then what do you do, EVs will never be the only vehicles on the road because there’s not enough infrastructure and they’re are toys for the rich just like buying a 1963 split window if you can do go for it, but it’s definitely not the future, it another Ric man’s toy, which is great for anyone who’s willing to go that root!!!!
@@2001DestructionofLies Everyone thought TVs, Computers, Smartphones, were rich man toys takes time for prices to come down enough that everyone starts buying. He paid high 50s for a car that sells for 70k new can trade it in or sell for nearly that in a year.
They running HW4 in emulation mode now, so it takes the video and scale the quality and resolution to the same as HW3 cars that way it works with the same Neural Network as HW3 cars. So right now there is no benefit on HW4 cameras, so we don't even know how good FSD can be if they roll out a HW4 trained stack.
I like seeing you drive down the Gorge past where I live near Goldendale. I assume you are in the Portland area? BTW, Omar at Whole Mars makes basically FSD commercials for Elon, only showing the good stuff, usually editing out any problems.
Mark, can I please ask you to apply at TESLA for a marketing job. I believe they just created some vacancies ;-). What a great video. really great for people that are undecided. My 5 year old M3 RWD has not seen service yet with 80K (aside from a set of tires and wipers that I installed myself and two repairs because of owner was impatient related damages). Wish I had you as a friend.
I disagree that people who argue against EV's don't know what they're talking about. I love the looks of Tesla vehicles and have considered owning one for over 10 years. However, I wouldn't get an EV right now because I live in a hurricane prone part of the country (somewhere you seem to be very unfamiliar with). Imagine living in the keys, and needing to evacuate up the peninsula of Florida with the rest of the state. Gas pumps typically have long wait times, but EV charging? Hours at best (not just charging time, but time spent waiting in line and then charging). And that wait time would only get longer the more popular EV's become. Also, that wait time is best case scenario, assuming the electric company isn't throttling (which they do near me & would likely do because of the high usage). Until charge times are similar, or better, compared to the time it takes me to fill up at a pump, I won't consider getting an EV. Otherwise, I might as well stay home and hope for the best.
I’m enjoying my new Model 3. Amazing car. Less enthusiastic about fsd. Hope it improves. i intervene a lot but maybe its me or that’s I’m on HW4. Its way too slow. I let it steer but I control the acceleration. Long time stock holder. Expecting it to improve. LOVE the car though. Like a magic carpet. I like your humility. The mark of a successful man imo.
Dude, I swear I could not say it any better. I had a very similar experience. No real intentions of buying a Tesla never driven one. Started investing in Tesla and figured I would go down for a test drive for the shits and giggles. Bought my X on the spot after a 5 minute explanation on how to even work everything, well most everything and a 20 minute test drive. Mind blowing and still is with every update. No it is not perfect, acts strange every now and again but blows anything I have ever owned prior.
Awesome FSD 12.3 endorsement. I happened to talk with a guy with a model Y doing the free 30 day trial and he said it was really impressive also. It seems like it just might actually be taxi ready by August. I sense a big sentiment reversal happening soon and demand for any Tesla with FSD going bonkers.
Give it time mate , the novelty will probably wear off after a while , it is easy to be overwhelmed by something a bit different , range anxiety is a thing though , we own a long range dual motor , it appears your driving in ideal conditions , but Evs can go down hill fast when circumstances change on a long run . And personally i would not be too trusting of self drive or even just full cruise , these things are not infallible . The dangerous thing about them is they will probably be fine for ages , and lull you into a false sense of security , that in turn effects your spatial awareness and fatigue factor , as an old trucky this is an area i know something about . Air suspension is not a new thing , my 1990 lexus had full air suspension with adjustable height and adjustable dampers , it is nice to have though . Enjoy your car , but just dont be too trusting of computers mate , they can fail when you dont expect it . Cheers .
Since I never remember to bring my phone...ever. and I pay 99 cents per kwh at home in California and pge is raising my rates in a couple months and there is no infrastructure anywhere near me. I'm good on gas thanks. And I'd never spend 20 grand on a car so I'll stick with my 24 year old car.
The latest FSD 12.3.4 is a huge improvement over v11. But please be careful: in busy big cities, during morning or afternoon rush hour, FSD cannot be trusted. The human driver will have to *intervene* and take control. Several times, most likely. FSD is currently a Level 2 driving assistant. Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away, at best.
@@rogerstarkey5390 FSD v12 was first released for public testing, *90* *days* *ago* . Since then, many version 12 point releases, given to the public. And today? 12.3.4 still makes all kinds of obvious mistakes. Human supervision is 100 percent required. 90 days of AI, neural networks, and Tesla's data center working *24* *hours* per day. You would call that a high *rate* of learning? You are funny!
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy There is a new video on TH-cam, just a few days old. FSD 12.3.4 is tested in San Francisco, and there are many problems. Even a couple of near collisions.
8:15 they should call 80% "100%" and call 100% "121%" because 100% isn't really 100% anyways, batter cells can be charged to like 160% before exploding, so 100% is just an arbitrary limit anyways... it's more about marketing. So ALWAYS charge to 80% unless you have a VERY good reason to charge above 80%.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy People don't realize Tesla doesn't engage in "planned obsolescence". Reminds me of the The Centennial Light which has been running lit since 1901, before the "great lightbulb cartel" introduced planned obsolescence.
@@Beakerzor it’s misinformation and intensity that some of these people have for being profoundly wrong fascinates me. I never thought about it till I made that video. It’s weird AF
Great job here, so much misleading information out there. More folks will uncover what you experienced, just know big money is trying keep this technology mute.
i charge my tesla at home "for free" (rv park with included electric) and then at work at free EV charging spots... my 40 mile daily commute is essentially free... and FSD (supervised) makes it even better, and safer!
I am 700'th in line of that 2,000,000+ queue and I still don't have the Cybertruck yet, somehow people 100,000 behind me in the queue already have one. F THAT SHIP. I'm canceling and forfeiting my $1100 to get a Model X instead.
14:03 No, not a large language model or large video model 😅. Language models are all over the news in 2024 but it is just one of the numerous possible artificial neural architectures. BTW, people were working on artificial neural networks since the 40s and I got my PhD in artificial neural networks in the 90s but sure the acceleration is huge since the beginning of the 2000s with new big players with a lot of data (our data !) and money, eg Google & Amazon, and later Tesla for autonomous driving. But of course it is not just about data, researchers invent new artificial neural architectures every month with a big step forward at least once a year.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I am glad it worked and got people's attention to an actually useful and informative video. There is too much negative nonsense going around about Tesla and EVs in general.
I loved your comment how the Tesla talk you hear is from Non-Tesla owners. They love to bash something they have no knowledge of. Own one then you can talk from facts. These are great vehicles. They do not meet 100% of needs but they meet a need of a large population. Great cars!
Lets all remember Musk claimed FSD would be fully working by 2018 and when your not using your Tesla it would go out on it's own and work as an autonomous taxi earning you up to 20k a year
For relatively short distances, an EV makes sense, if you can charge at home. I'd be a little nervous having that much lithium battery in my garage, but in a carport, away from the house is fine. I have enough land to handle that. Plugging in every night is less hassle than refueling. And zero emissions is huge for densely packed residential areas. There, I think it's a big plus, more because of local air quality considerations than climate remediation. But EVs are a combination of advantages and disadvantages. If I'm travelling cross-country in the winter, I want that fire under the hood. In the summer, you can pack enough solar cells to "re-fuel" anywhere, so you can make your own fuel. If there ever comes a time that fossil fuels aren't available, you can make wood gas out of trees, like they did when gas was short during the war. You'd probably use 20-lb propane tanks and compress the stuff, but you could power an ICE with it, porting the gas directly to the manifold. I think they sort of got the cart ahead of the horse, with EVs, because the electric generation is largely coal-fired plants. Attack where the power comes from and do much more for emission reductions. Atomic power seems like a logical strategy.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I type very quickly. Sorry you're so slow. Not much of a refutation. What was wrong in what I said? Do you think this EV pipe dream is end-all be-all for transportation? You're dreaming.
I've said for years "I can't wait 'til the cars drive themselves, ... people are f-ing idiots!" 😂 I the same boat, looking at the X.... but I make keep my CT res and become a Tesla family 🤖😳
Actually the cost to charge an EV isn't actually much cost savings if any at all. At $0.28/kwh like you said for fast charging that's about the same as having a corolla hybrid with gas price of $3.36. Many fast chargers in my area are actually far more than gas at $0.35-0.48/kwh making them an absolutely abysmal deal. In general though even if we assume you use the average residential rate of $0.17 in the US right now with the annual average gas price of $3.40, you're only saving around $300-500 a year. This gap will plummet if you live in a state that has or is planning to add an EV road tax. EVs can't be expected to drive on the road for free forever and some states have already cut back on it. I won't at all deny the performance of EVs or how smooth they are, but they aren't appreciably better value, especially when people are actually buying models that are $5-8K more than the next car they would have bought. You'll never make that money back at such small benefits a year.
@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy only 4 years ago the electricity were I live in the north east was $0.0735/kwh. In that time it has since over doubled to just under $0.18/kwh and like I said the average US residential cost is $0.17. Not sure exactly where you live as even looking up the state averages the lowest is Nebraska had the lowest residential at $0.985/kwh with the next runner up being North Dakota at $0.0988. The prices vary a lot month to month as well but have been very high the last 3 years mainly due to investment in new power and things like crypto currency mining. It very much depends where you live. Like I said, rule of thumb is if you pay the average you're not really saving anything if gas is $3.30 or less. I know some people mention how cheap a single fill is, but most EVs also only have half the range so of course they look better on individual charges, you should be looking at the full annual value vs miles, basically how much does it cost for the average 15K annual. EVs also ironically benefit the more you drive vs gas, yet its inherent limits mean those who drive EVs are also less likely to go as far in a year. And like I said, fast chargers tend to be a terrible deal even vs gas. Some EV stations charge a subscription just to get a lower rate which is still as high or higher than gas. I say if you plan on using fast charging I hope you live in a state that only charges based on time not energy rates. Those are by far the best value.
@@Skylancer727 you’re saying this but it’s kinda nonsense your math only works if the gas is 2 bucks and the ice car get 50 miles a gallon. Thats not reality on either front.
@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I said assuming that gas is $3.30 which is realistic. And there are definitely cars that get 50mpg. You can get a Corolla hybrid for $23K with a fuel economy of 53mpg in the city, 46 highway, same for Camry, and the Prius is 56mph either way. If your point was exclusively saving costs, there you go. Like I said you'll never make that money back buying a car like the Model 3 which is $15K more. These cars aren't nearly as performance oriented as an EV but if your point was just general cost savings there you go. Still even if you drove for free in an Model 3 vs Corolla hybrid it would take you 15 years to make the difference. And let's be serious here, nobody gets free power unless their employer supplies it. Like I said, people use the justification it's cheaper to drive as a reason to buy a more expensive car, you shouldn't be doing that. Some hybrids have the same marketing garbage like how a RAV4 hybrid will never make the money back from a standard, not at the $3K mark up. And if you were instead to buy a Model Y instead of a basic RAV4, which is $7K more after federal credits (which many forget not everyone can get), you'd have to use it for 11.4 years to pay off the difference. Like I said, you shouldn't be buying an EV for value, and there's nothing wrong with saying you want a sports car. Let's be serious here, the main reason to buy an EV is performance. You can't really get EV performance till you go in price brackets well out of consumer range. And like I said, this is math based on driving 15K miles annual, if you drive less the numbers look worse.
@@Skylancer727 😆☠️ Are you trying to convince me? I have the gear in my driveway. Sitting next to a bronco. Rock that corolla brother. I’m gonna roll around in my 700 horsepower bullet that drives itself.
3 people viewing my ass! you've had 165 comments and 11,000 views! I wouldn't mind having an X but at $70k, you're a different type of American than most that I know, nobody I know can afford that other than maybe 2 people.
Mark, hats off. I watched the whole video without any interruption. Very entertaining, interesting down to earth presentation or your personal experience. Loved it
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is the first of your videos I have seen. You’re a natural and I hope you make more about tech. Thank you.
I mostly make stone working stuff that nobody watches. 😢
Went for a cyber truck left in a X . A non fanboy review. Most excellent.
I’m a fanboi now! 🎉
First time watching your video, loved your banter and candor. Makes so much sense, ty.
Best personal and useful description of the power of V12 I've seen on TH-cam yet, Mark. My experience exactly, especially as you described going from V11 to V12. Hope you'll do more...especially as you get that CT.
Thanks it was fun making it
You crushed it. Best review of FSD and electric lifestyle ever. Once you go electric, your life gets better. Thanks for posting.
Imagine avoiding a flight by choosing to drive on FSD. No more bus rides in the sky at least for shorter distances.
This is FANTASTIC Mark... I'm so glad you made this, I hope it excites people into following your example.
I hope so too!
Extra $20k is such bull.
As a stock holder I support it, as a consumer I’m holding off for 79k build with 7500 Ira credit and sec 179 like I did with this x.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy optimal path!🎉
Great video. Congrats on your Tesla. I'm on FSD v12.3.4 now and it's incredible.
People have no idea. FSD is going to change everything.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy It has for me already. I've never had a vehicle that just keeps getting better and better. It's stunning. The new FSD is the biggest upgrade yet. BTW, does the last part of your video mean that you also bought a Cybertruck? I actually have a day 1 Cybertruck pre-order and got the offer but decided to wait until the post Foundation era to get the $7500 rebate and avoid the bleeding edge issues that go with any cutting edge product. That said, I like the Model Y I bought as a stopgap more and more all the time. Decisions...
Great non-fan boy review. Great to explain to regular car people who are open to new tech.
I think I’m a fanboi now! 😆
Love the way you presented yourself. I laughed many times while watching. Tank you.
So true. A lot of people that are ignorant and haters do talk out their a** when it comes to Tesla cars. I kept my mind open when I got my model 3 long range in 2022. I also was blown away with the model 3. Have fun with the model x.
Thanks for watching my video while charging at a Tesla supercharger. 😊
I followed you at that stop! 💥
Excellent video and subscribed. I just shared this on X.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to make it, I bet more than 3 people have watch it!
Great job mark ! I love your excitement about the tech
I ordered the cyber truck when it was unveiled was because it was touted to be 6 seater with trimotor $69k with 500+ mi range. Now it’s a 5 seater for over $120k for 340 mi range. I’m up for my reservation, but no longer so interested so much. I don’t want it just because all the celebrities or rich guys want to flash their new overpriced toy. I’ll wait until they either bring back the original configuration or design a nice cyber van that is nicer for road-trips. Congratulations on your awesome Model X!!
Nothing wrong with toys if you can afford it! 🎉
Mark,
Excellent video. Best advert for Tesla I’ve seen. Cut it into ‘shorts’ and post everywhere. Segment from 12:10 - 12:30 is spectacular! And 6:30-6:49.
I should do that. Good idea.
FSD for Cybertruck is coming. Thank-you for calling BS on range anxiety. These keyboard warriors that claim they can drive 16 hours without ever lifting off the accelerator are ridiculous.
100 miles pulling a trailer is 90 minutes driving, followed by an hour charging.
@@TroySavary Hi keyboard warrior. FYI: It's more like 150 miles and the charging time is more like 25 minutes. And I fully expect that charging time to go down as Tesla figures out the charging curve for the 46-80 cells.
But nice try.
CT can’t tow, buy a diesel. CT is nice but a toy.
I won’t sell my truck when mine arrives let’s put it that way
@@lazerusmfh So you don’t like Tesla, then don’t buy a Tesla. See what I did there? Didn’t I just solved your problem? You’re welcome! Cheers 🥂
@@theodorehaskins3756 He didn't say he doesn't like Tesla. He just said he is keeping his diesel to tow. Why is it so cult like with Tesla fans? You must absolutely praise everything they do, or you are a hater.
So many admire the acceleration. What I love is the control. Slow speed crawl over a curb, or in a traffic hole hitting exactly where you want it.
Indeed , throttle calibration is very good and surprising the first time you drive one .
I've long suffered *range anxiety* on me olde 2011 BMW M3, in the rural mountains, rare but important, about 300 miles.
As liquid fuel becomes more scarce? Electricity is and will be everywhere.
It's fun to see someone experience just how much more modern new EVs feel vs older ICE cars...
I canceled my Cybertruck order too and bought a Model Y a couple weeks ago.
FSD is mind blowing, I flippin’ love it!
Will I see ya at Coverings in Atlanta?
Hey Ted! Not this year, no machines. 😢
One of the best FSD videos I've seen in a long time. Mostly because you're telling it how it is.
Thanks Zip
Long range model Y. V11 was fun but V12 is amazing. I use it now for most of my driving. I did a FSD drive from Wilsonville to Depoe Bay and back with just 1 intervention last week. Then i did a drive over to Bend with zero interventions. It makes a longer drive so much less tiring.
FSD 12 thru the Terwilliger curves and deep downtown pdx no issues. Blew my mind.
pls try to do more videos you're funny and this was entertaining i subbed
LOL the more you drive your Tesla the worse you will think of any other car and see that they are built to break. Grats on your purchase Mark welcome to the club.
It’s true. I was in my buddies Benz. I never noticed transmissions until I didn’t have one.
Teslas have their good points , they are not all good though mate , there is a bunch of things i think they really could do a lot better .
@@mikldude9376 literally every product ever made by humans.
Truly loved your video. Just like everyone else says, it’s finally hear from a normal person who’s not a fanboy. You nailed it man, this is why Tesla’s marketing plan has always been to simply get butts in the seats, and let the experience sell the car. Love your perspective and honesty!
Every FSD works phenomenal for Omar. 😄
But now 12.X.X are next level. Great under radar vid Sir!
When I first tried version 11… first thought was: “Omar is full of shit!”
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy He must have been omitting some fails, when he was w AI Driver for example--they had a few very bad instances on 11.
@@Mrbfgray it’s not so much the fails, it was uncomfortable and weird.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I saw some action on vids that were beyond uncomfortable to a little scary at the least. Like turning toward oncoming traffic, granted usually very slow speed but senseless movements.
Obviously YOU know better than I.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I like and respect Omar, just poking some fun at him. Been standing joke about his FSD experiences.
A tip I saw on another video has helped me with the nagging. Turn the volume up and down one notch with the left wheel button. Been far less annoying since I learned that.
Ya I discovered that with the speed knob!
12:00 I pay 1.5cents/kwh at home over night, that's like paying $0.04/gal of gas. It's basically like free fuel.
Exactly this.
We just bought a model Y and have the same release FSD. Going on the highway, it started to turn onto the highway shoulder on the right just a few hundred feet before the actual exit ramp. Sometimes you still have to take over and correct it. We also notice it hesitates especially when going around traffic circles and can’t decide if it can beat the other cars or not. Once it entered and changed it’s mind and immediately disengaged FSD. Left us half in and half out with people giving us a strange look. Partially solved by putting on one of those “Please be patient, Student driver” stickers on the back. 😂
Ive not had that happen with 12.3, a couple other weird things, mostly me not eating at stop signs.
FSD is getting crazy. Cools to see where stone cutting has gone to. Subbed. Enjoy the X.
My Model S Plaid was my first EV and 3rd car in our household. Being a tech guy I absolutely love it, however, I wouldn't keep it as our only vehicle. Tesla's service is not on par with almost any other manufacturer and if anything goes wrong it takes weeks to get anything fixed. Other than that I love my MSP and FSD V12 really has been a game changer. Congrats on the new car, the Model X is fantastic. Wait until they have HW4 trained and your not running in HW3 emulation, it should be way better.
I’m amazed now! I can’t wait.
A great story, nicely told. Ordered my Model X a month after Elon announced FSD in Oct 2016. They were still giving away supercharging for life tied to the VIN. I'm still in love.
Right on
oh yeah! love your commentary!
Awesome video! They are truly amazing!! People who don’t have a Tesla have no clue!! The world will change!
1000%
version 11 was like letting an 11 year old drive your car, and version 12 is like letting a 14 year old drive it, it's SO MUCH BETTER, but it's still like being a driving instructor, you have to pay more attention than if you just drive yourself
i drove on both. That is simply not been my experience.
Great content. Love your arguments for EVs. 👍🏻
Hey Mark, thanks for the video, and the ride along, you come across as the genuine person, love your canter and your banter, and you keep being you, my friend.
So I just got into a 2024 L/R, dual motor all-wheel-drive Tesla Model S, and my trade-in was a L/ R, duel motor, all-wheel-drive, Tesla Model 3, with FSD full self driving.
So I’ve seen every iteration of the software from the very get-go, and I’m talking about when the price was 3K, and so I signed up immediately, and paid the 3K, and watched it go to 5K to 8K to 12K, to 15K, and now back to 12K, so it’s anybody’s guess where it will go from here.
So I couldn’t agree with you more, that going from V11 to V12, it’s like night and day. I mean it’s as if FSD went from being a toddler to being a young man in an instant, that’s how good V12 is, compare to V11, and I’m currently on V12.3.3.
So I think the subscription idea was a good idea, but not at $200 a month, but at $99 a month, definitely a better deal, and oh BTW, the reason I traded in my Model 3 was because they allowed me to transfer my FSD from the Model 3 to the Model S, and so you can see that’s a substantial savings right there, not to mention all the other benefits of owning an EV, especially a Tesla.
So there was no way I was going to pass up a 2nd chance to make that transfer, because the 1st time around, I just wasn’t prepared to deal, but when they came out with the 2nd window, I said, I gotta go, no way I’m gonna pass this up a 2nd time, as I know a good deal when I see one.
So full disclosure, I wasn’t much of a Tesla fan, as I never thought that they would succeed, although I did like the idea of having an electric car, but I didn’t think they could make such a car, and even after I heard them announce the launch of the Model S, I thought it was way to expensive, and so I wasn’t prepared to deal, but when Elon started to talk about a self driving car, that sparked my interest, and it was at that point, I was all in.
So full disclosure, I don’t own Tesla stock, because I don’t own stock in any company, and it’s not that I’m opposed to owning Tesla stock or any other company stock, I am just not interested in living my life worrying about the price of a company’s stock or where the stock market is, however, haven’t said that, like most people I have a general interest in the markets, and on occasion certain companies catch my eye, such as a Tesla, and now Nvidia has been in the news quite often, but again I don’t buy individual stocks, I buy funds, and so if the fund managers bought Tesla’s stock, then I own it indirectly through the fund, but not as an individual who decided to buy Tesla stock, and so whether the stock is up or down or sideways I really don’t pay much attention to it, because I don’t own the company’s stock directly.
So Warren Buffett said something that stuck with me, and it was this, “never invest in things you don’t understand, and I think that’s wise counsel, and a good rule of thumb for anyone, and so I’ve added another idea to that rule, and that is, “don’t invest in things that will keep you up at night,” as life is already filled with so many pitfalls, why add another one to your life, therefore, I pay other people to worry about whether or not the stock is up or down or sideways, as my job is to live my best life that I can possibly live without worrying about things outside of my control.
So I’ve also learned something else too, and that is money is something you need only in case you don’t die tomorrow, because if you died today or tomorrow, you will have had all the money you ever needed.
So live your best life, and live your life like it’s the last day of your life, because for somebody in this world it truly is, and will be your last day too.
So thanks again for the video, and the ride along, and stay safe out there. Enjoy your Tesla, enjoy your life, look forward to your next road trip video. Cheers 🥂
It’s 99 a month now!
"you are so wrong, you should start asking yourself 'what else am i wrong about' " LMFAO ... well said
I'm ADHD and mildly autistic, I've been struggling FOR MONTHS to explain why I bought a 2022 Model 3 vs. anything else under $34,000 in the used market. When you said something along the lines of "it's the opposite, you couldn't be more wrong. In fact, it's so wrong you should probably start asking myself 'what else am I wrong about".
THAT'S IT. that is what i've been trying to put words to for months now. goddamn I wish I could find words like find errors in processes and spreadsheets. thank you. subbed.
Thanks for the sub! I’ll try not to bore everyone to death
Glad I'm not the only one that thought FSD v11 SUCKED outside of the places Whole Mars showed in his videos. Like it was literally no more useful than base autopilot. FSD v12 on the other hand is a HUGE improvement, so much so that it is actually useful now. It has been so fun to ride with this past month.
Great video!
How much was the charger put at your home originally?? Never heard what that cost to install on your home plus if you only have 100 amp service you’re in trouble!!!
100 amps? 😆 I don’t live in a hut. I bought a NEMA 1450 plug and slapped it under my panel in about an hour. Cost me maybe 100 bucks for the wire, box, plug etc.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I said what do you have house amperage if you have, not you specifically have 100 amp service & live in a city with no parking in front of your house, then what do you do, EVs will never be the only vehicles on the road because there’s not enough infrastructure and they’re are toys for the rich just like buying a 1963 split window if you can do go for it, but it’s definitely not the future, it another Ric man’s toy, which is great for anyone who’s willing to go that root!!!!
@@2001DestructionofLies Everyone thought TVs, Computers, Smartphones, were rich man toys takes time for prices to come down enough that everyone starts buying. He paid high 50s for a car that sells for 70k new can trade it in or sell for nearly that in a year.
Have you bought the FSD or on subscription or testing out the free one at the moment?
I got 90 days free for using my buddies referral. I'll pay 90 with a smile on my face.
nice video, you have a skill in making compelling content
The stats would indicate otherwise 😢
Great value for sure om that X I own a ModelY Per best car i ever owned, adding the Cyberbest just waitimg on Vin in Fl
How did you get V12 when you have a hardware 4 car?
It is just delivered as a software update. I have a HW4 Model X and I've had two v12 updates.
They running HW4 in emulation mode now, so it takes the video and scale the quality and resolution to the same as HW3 cars that way it works with the same Neural Network as HW3 cars. So right now there is no benefit on HW4 cameras, so we don't even know how good FSD can be if they roll out a HW4 trained stack.
I hear Cybertruck doesnt have FSD. Do you still need to pay for FSD ahead of time on cybertruck even if it wont work for a couple years?
It works, I’m on the free trial for now. I’ll pay the 99 a month with a smile. I’d pay more.
It’s the main reason I kicked taking delivery down the road. I love FSD. I guess im a “fanboi” now.
I just got the model Y long range...love it so. much. I got 1-2 months ago for 44k-7500
People have no idea
Great video
Thanks!
My favorite ev video yet.. You nailed it, everything thing you said is why i just bought 2..
thanks for that.
I like seeing you drive down the Gorge past where I live near Goldendale. I assume you are in the Portland area?
BTW, Omar at Whole Mars makes basically FSD commercials for Elon, only showing the good stuff, usually editing out any problems.
Version 12.3 is incredible
It’s a whole be drive when you arn’t actually driving
You should so car videos more often. You're good at it sir.
Mark, can I please ask you to apply at TESLA for a marketing job. I believe they just created some vacancies ;-). What a great video. really great for people that are undecided. My 5 year old M3 RWD has not seen service yet with 80K (aside from a set of tires and wipers that I installed myself and two repairs because of owner was impatient related damages). Wish I had you as a friend.
It’d be a fun project. I’d work for Tesla. It’s in my wheelhouse (sales)
I disagree that people who argue against EV's don't know what they're talking about.
I love the looks of Tesla vehicles and have considered owning one for over 10 years. However, I wouldn't get an EV right now because I live in a hurricane prone part of the country (somewhere you seem to be very unfamiliar with). Imagine living in the keys, and needing to evacuate up the peninsula of Florida with the rest of the state. Gas pumps typically have long wait times, but EV charging? Hours at best (not just charging time, but time spent waiting in line and then charging). And that wait time would only get longer the more popular EV's become. Also, that wait time is best case scenario, assuming the electric company isn't throttling (which they do near me & would likely do because of the high usage). Until charge times are similar, or better, compared to the time it takes me to fill up at a pump, I won't consider getting an EV. Otherwise, I might as well stay home and hope for the best.
Nonsense
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy great argument with multiple valid points 🥴
great Video
Thanks man!
This is a Great video, Tesla should pay you for the sales demo, I’m going to subscribe in case you get that CT in the future too.
Thanks
Thank you for a 'normal' person's view without any of the fanboy or hater hyperbole. new-Sub.
I think i have transcended to fan-boy. It is honestly hard not to be. FSD12.3 is a harbinger of a bright interesting future.
I’m enjoying my new Model 3. Amazing car. Less enthusiastic about fsd. Hope it improves. i intervene a lot but maybe its me or that’s I’m on HW4. Its way too slow. I let it steer but I control the acceleration. Long time stock holder. Expecting it to improve. LOVE the car though. Like a magic carpet. I like your humility. The mark of a successful man imo.
Thanks for that. The comments are encouraging.
Dude, I swear I could not say it any better. I had a very similar experience. No real intentions of buying a Tesla never driven one. Started investing in Tesla and figured I would go down for a test drive for the shits and giggles. Bought my X on the spot after a 5 minute explanation on how to even work everything, well most everything and a 20 minute test drive. Mind blowing and still is with every update. No it is not perfect, acts strange every now and again but blows anything I have ever owned prior.
It’s crazy how full of shit the anti ev crowd is. Misinformation is powerful. Incredibly so.
Falcon wing doors out of warranty, that takes balls
Or not being broke. Fortunately I hardly use em. I roll solo mostly. Ive heard stories.
Awesome FSD 12.3 endorsement. I happened to talk with a guy with a model Y doing the free 30 day trial and he said it was really impressive also. It seems like it just might actually be taxi ready by August. I sense a big sentiment reversal happening soon and demand for any Tesla with FSD going bonkers.
I think so!
CX'd my CT and waiting on the MY - Juniper.
The osborne effect....in action.
I hope you live through this experiment
I hope u survive the misinformation and poverty mindset that compels you to shit talk something you obviously know NOTHING about.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy tell that to the 18 people who’ve died bc of Elmo’s not ready for prime time robots.
Waiting for FSD in Thailand, lol I’ll try not to hold my breath
good review...you are the kind of person that other people need to see...objective...not part of the tesla bubble.
Bro happy for you
Thanks! I’m pleasantly surprised!
Give it time mate , the novelty will probably wear off after a while , it is easy to be overwhelmed by something a bit different , range anxiety is a thing though , we own a long range dual motor , it appears your driving in ideal conditions , but Evs can go down hill fast when circumstances change on a long run .
And personally i would not be too trusting of self drive or even just full cruise , these things are not infallible .
The dangerous thing about them is they will probably be fine for ages , and lull you into a false sense of security , that in turn effects your spatial awareness and fatigue factor , as an old trucky this is an area i know something about .
Air suspension is not a new thing , my 1990 lexus had full air suspension with adjustable height and adjustable dampers , it is nice to have though .
Enjoy your car , but just dont be too trusting of computers mate , they can fail when you dont expect it .
Cheers .
😆 Right I’ll get tired of my 670hp beast driving me around for $6 for 250miles. Wanna buy my badlands?
11:20 I have a 2014 Nissan Leaf that has 64 miles of range and I N E V E R get range anxiety. It's all mental, just relax and enjoy the acceleration.
The anti-ev FUD is real.
Since I never remember to bring my phone...ever. and I pay 99 cents per kwh at home in California and pge is raising my rates in a couple months and there is no infrastructure anywhere near me. I'm good on gas thanks. And I'd never spend 20 grand on a car so I'll stick with my 24 year old car.
Move 😆
It was not an EV fan, but this was awesome! Thanks.
I was not either actually. I just wanted a Cybertruck cause it was so damn crazy. Then sat in the Model X. Sold.
The latest FSD 12.3.4 is a huge improvement over v11. But please be careful: in busy big cities, during morning or afternoon rush hour, FSD cannot be trusted. The human driver will have to *intervene* and take control. Several times, most likely.
FSD is currently a Level 2 driving assistant. Level 5 Full Autonomy is years away, at best.
You don't understand the *rate* of learning?
@@rogerstarkey5390 FSD v12 was first released for public testing, *90* *days* *ago* .
Since then, many version 12 point releases, given to the public.
And today? 12.3.4 still makes all kinds of obvious mistakes. Human supervision is 100 percent required.
90 days of AI, neural networks, and Tesla's data center working *24* *hours* per day.
You would call that a high *rate* of learning? You are funny!
Works awesome, only glitch is it weirds out on multiple lanes once in awhile. Does a weird S thing. But that will smooth out I expect.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy There is a new video on TH-cam, just a few days old. FSD 12.3.4 is tested in San Francisco, and there are many problems. Even a couple of near collisions.
Model S came out in 2012 not 2010 and what gives my RN is 112777___ ???
I’m sure you’re right, I did this on the fly. 10/12 years a decade ago
8:15 they should call 80% "100%" and call 100% "121%" because 100% isn't really 100% anyways, batter cells can be charged to like 160% before exploding, so 100% is just an arbitrary limit anyways... it's more about marketing. So ALWAYS charge to 80% unless you have a VERY good reason to charge above 80%.
and your pack will last 50 to 100 years... literally
im good if it lasts 160K miles. that would be longer than any ice car ive owned in the past
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy People don't realize Tesla doesn't engage in "planned obsolescence". Reminds me of the The Centennial Light which has been running lit since 1901, before the "great lightbulb cartel" introduced planned obsolescence.
@@Beakerzor it’s misinformation and intensity that some of these people have for being profoundly wrong fascinates me. I never thought about it till I made that video. It’s weird AF
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I had someone ask me “is it true you have to pay like $120k to recycle the battery pack if you get a new one?”
Great job here, so much misleading information out there. More folks will uncover what you experienced, just know big money is trying keep this technology mute.
i charge my tesla at home "for free" (rv park with included electric) and then at work at free EV charging spots... my 40 mile daily commute is essentially free... and FSD (supervised) makes it even better, and safer!
Exactly this
I am 700'th in line of that 2,000,000+ queue and I still don't have the Cybertruck yet, somehow people 100,000 behind me in the queue already have one. F THAT SHIP. I'm canceling and forfeiting my $1100 to get a Model X instead.
oh, that's exactly what you did, too! (almost)
literally what i did. I was supposed to pick up the CT today.
14:03 No, not a large language model or large video model 😅. Language models are all over the news in 2024 but it is just one of the numerous possible artificial neural architectures. BTW, people were working on artificial neural networks since the 40s and I got my PhD in artificial neural networks in the 90s but sure the acceleration is huge since the beginning of the 2000s with new big players with a lot of data (our data !) and money, eg Google & Amazon, and later Tesla for autonomous driving. But of course it is not just about data, researchers invent new artificial neural architectures every month with a big step forward at least once a year.
Nice X man.
Great video! EV haters are oblivious.
Watched the whole video but the title is still confusing.
I kinda made the title as a joke about clickbait. I think it might have worked. Hell if I know.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I am glad it worked and got people's attention to an actually useful and informative video. There is too much negative nonsense going around about Tesla and EVs in general.
@@MikesCarInfo feel free to share! 💥
Please make a video in 6 months and tell us how much you still love it.
I’ll do it!
I loved your comment how the Tesla talk you hear is from Non-Tesla owners. They love to bash something they have no knowledge of. Own one then you can talk from facts. These are great vehicles. They do not meet 100% of needs but they meet a need of a large population. Great cars!
Right on
The Terminators came suddenly not from the military but from Tesla FSD. FSD became self aware in 2024....
Could happen 😂
Straight line AMC engine, manual transmission. Chicks love it. I get gas at Wawa.
😆 I like it!
watching your vid. at a super charger. you are on point about the EV haters. They don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
How crazy is that?
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I hope you are two shills no one could be this stupid
The market has spoken. It;s over for EVs and grifter Musk. Musk culties just don't know it yet.
I’ve noticed that some are getting more interested though. I see the looks. The Tesla population is exploding around here in North Jersey.
Wow this is one huge Tesla psy-op
Lets all remember Musk claimed FSD would be fully working by 2018 and when your not using your Tesla it would go out on it's own and work as an autonomous taxi earning you up to 20k a year
Let’s all remember you work in a grocery store! Thanks for the pointless history lesson.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I do wow I didn't realise I had 2 jobs at least I'm honest unlike Musk and you apparently....
Good for you! CYBERTRUCK is not for everyone! For me yes.
I want one in a big way. 102K is a big ask after losing my ass on Tesla stock this year.
For relatively short distances, an EV makes sense, if you can charge at home. I'd be a little nervous having that much lithium battery in my garage, but in a carport, away from the house is fine. I have enough land to handle that.
Plugging in every night is less hassle than refueling. And zero emissions is huge for densely packed residential areas. There, I think it's a big plus, more because of local air quality considerations than climate remediation.
But EVs are a combination of advantages and disadvantages. If I'm travelling cross-country in the winter, I want that fire under the hood. In the summer, you can pack enough solar cells to "re-fuel" anywhere, so you can make your own fuel.
If there ever comes a time that fossil fuels aren't available, you can make wood gas out of trees, like they did when gas was short during the war. You'd probably use 20-lb propane tanks and compress the stuff, but you could power an ICE with it, porting the gas directly to the manifold.
I think they sort of got the cart ahead of the horse, with EVs, because the electric generation is largely coal-fired plants. Attack where the power comes from and do much more for emission reductions. Atomic power seems like a logical strategy.
You’re spent lotta time writing your dissertation. Too bad you’re full of it.
@@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I type very quickly. Sorry you're so slow.
Not much of a refutation. What was wrong in what I said?
Do you think this EV pipe dream is end-all be-all for transportation? You're dreaming.
670hp Should be halved.Absolutely crazy.
I like it. A lot 😆
Excellent… A Model X at that price is a great deal. And probably a much better vehicle than the CT.
I might have both at some point.
I've said for years "I can't wait 'til the cars drive themselves, ... people are f-ing idiots!" 😂 I the same boat, looking at the X.... but I make keep my CT res and become a Tesla family 🤖😳
I really want a CT… I’m gonna hold off. (Which is not my style normally) FSD is why I switched. For now.
"I'm not a car guy, but I am a poser and simpleton."😂
I am a simpleton.
Actually the cost to charge an EV isn't actually much cost savings if any at all. At $0.28/kwh like you said for fast charging that's about the same as having a corolla hybrid with gas price of $3.36. Many fast chargers in my area are actually far more than gas at $0.35-0.48/kwh making them an absolutely abysmal deal.
In general though even if we assume you use the average residential rate of $0.17 in the US right now with the annual average gas price of $3.40, you're only saving around $300-500 a year. This gap will plummet if you live in a state that has or is planning to add an EV road tax. EVs can't be expected to drive on the road for free forever and some states have already cut back on it.
I won't at all deny the performance of EVs or how smooth they are, but they aren't appreciably better value, especially when people are actually buying models that are $5-8K more than the next car they would have bought. You'll never make that money back at such small benefits a year.
That's nonsense....at least where I live. I pay 8 cents a Kwh all day long.
@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy only 4 years ago the electricity were I live in the north east was $0.0735/kwh. In that time it has since over doubled to just under $0.18/kwh and like I said the average US residential cost is $0.17.
Not sure exactly where you live as even looking up the state averages the lowest is Nebraska had the lowest residential at $0.985/kwh with the next runner up being North Dakota at $0.0988. The prices vary a lot month to month as well but have been very high the last 3 years mainly due to investment in new power and things like crypto currency mining.
It very much depends where you live. Like I said, rule of thumb is if you pay the average you're not really saving anything if gas is $3.30 or less. I know some people mention how cheap a single fill is, but most EVs also only have half the range so of course they look better on individual charges, you should be looking at the full annual value vs miles, basically how much does it cost for the average 15K annual. EVs also ironically benefit the more you drive vs gas, yet its inherent limits mean those who drive EVs are also less likely to go as far in a year.
And like I said, fast chargers tend to be a terrible deal even vs gas. Some EV stations charge a subscription just to get a lower rate which is still as high or higher than gas. I say if you plan on using fast charging I hope you live in a state that only charges based on time not energy rates. Those are by far the best value.
@@Skylancer727 you’re saying this but it’s kinda nonsense your math only works if the gas is 2 bucks and the ice car get 50 miles a gallon. Thats not reality on either front.
@MarkLauzonTheStoneGuy I said assuming that gas is $3.30 which is realistic. And there are definitely cars that get 50mpg. You can get a Corolla hybrid for $23K with a fuel economy of 53mpg in the city, 46 highway, same for Camry, and the Prius is 56mph either way. If your point was exclusively saving costs, there you go. Like I said you'll never make that money back buying a car like the Model 3 which is $15K more. These cars aren't nearly as performance oriented as an EV but if your point was just general cost savings there you go.
Still even if you drove for free in an Model 3 vs Corolla hybrid it would take you 15 years to make the difference. And let's be serious here, nobody gets free power unless their employer supplies it.
Like I said, people use the justification it's cheaper to drive as a reason to buy a more expensive car, you shouldn't be doing that. Some hybrids have the same marketing garbage like how a RAV4 hybrid will never make the money back from a standard, not at the $3K mark up. And if you were instead to buy a Model Y instead of a basic RAV4, which is $7K more after federal credits (which many forget not everyone can get), you'd have to use it for 11.4 years to pay off the difference.
Like I said, you shouldn't be buying an EV for value, and there's nothing wrong with saying you want a sports car. Let's be serious here, the main reason to buy an EV is performance. You can't really get EV performance till you go in price brackets well out of consumer range. And like I said, this is math based on driving 15K miles annual, if you drive less the numbers look worse.
@@Skylancer727 😆☠️ Are you trying to convince me? I have the gear in my driveway. Sitting next to a bronco. Rock that corolla brother. I’m gonna roll around in my 700 horsepower bullet that drives itself.
“Nobody watches my videos except for maybe 3 people”.. lol 12k views in 2 days😂
I read the title and thought, "this idiot! CT doen't even have FSD yet!" Now I understand. Model X for the win!
The title was an experiment
I watched it... 4 People.
lol....i am more surprised than anyone.
3 people viewing my ass! you've had 165 comments and 11,000 views! I wouldn't mind having an X but at $70k, you're a different type of American than most that I know, nobody I know can afford that other than maybe 2 people.
I’m almost 60! I’m not supposed to be broke. I been workin like 40 years
2 days and far more than 2 or 3 views ;-)