Respect 😊❤ Bob may have been on the other team, but he at least told some truth. In all ways, he will be missed. My best friend died from the c19 just over a year ago... She was my best friend because she always challenged me, made me think with her perspective, and cherished her for making me improve and think from other views. Bob had his views, and was seemingly nice about it... RIP mate. ❤
Yeah despite his belief, he was still a husband and father (I believe) and probably a good friend to many. Just because he was lost in one relatively small aspect of life doesn’t justify legit hate or anything towards the guy. Plenty of disagreements and attempts to teach, but in the end that doesn’t truly define him. RIP Bob
I was more thinking. Same car at the same speed. then looking at a map of continental USA and trying to figure out why the dot. repricenting where the car is. hasn´t realy moved. even after a couple of a hour or two.
"They're all CGI images" As an undergraduate, I took hundreds of images of a variety of nebulae using a 36 inch reflector for a final year project. Those images were taken on glass photographic plates (this was long before CCD technology) and those are still in the university archive. Prints were made and were widely available. I still have most of them. Two questions for Santos: 1) How do you use digital CGI technology on an analogue photographic plate?, and 2) How do you do it 20 years before CGI was invented? £10000 for a plausible reply.
I'm taking images with my telescopes every clear night (I have a home observatory). Though I use CCD and CMOS sensors now, they're still photographs. And there's no CGI involved. I'm happy to invite anyone, even flerfers, to come spend a night imaging with me. They can look at the raw images and see for themselves...no CGI. :)
One of my Lab Instructors in college designed and build a tracking system for his Telescope for long exposure photos, he showed us some of his photographs, AMAZING.
They will just say you are a part of the conspiracy or something, and being paid to make this claims. There is a chance you were not aware of this, please report to your closest Illuminati headquarter ;)
The stars not getting closer thing just kills me 😂 It's like saying "I'm not aging because no matter how much time passes, my grandma is always older than me." smh
I am not aging, yesterday was only one night sleep away, just like it was years ago... And when I go to sleep again, I will open my eyes tomorrow, also like it was years ago. You see, things do not change a bit .......
@@erikblaas5826 Technically, no one will ever actually see tomorrow; The very instant that tomorrow arrives it becomes today. It doesn't matter how many days you live, you will still never see tomorrow. The speed at which time passes is related to how fast you're moving through space; Unless you leave Earth & move at a different speed, you are stuck at moving through time at 60 seconds per minute. Just as the "goalpost of time" is always in motion, so are the "landmarks of space" also moving.
LOL, I remember as a kid saying to my dad, "When I get older than you..." He then proceeded to explain why that will NEVER happen. I was crushed, BUT, no doubt, it's one of the reasons I never fell for the flat earth hoax. I guess he didn't have a dad to speak the harsh truth to him. LOL
The smirk on Santos's face when he thinks he's figured something out is PRICELESS 😅 he is literally saying the dumbest sh%* and smirking like he's a genius or something 😂
Yes, obviously (to a flat earther) they are sneaking into your house while you sleep, swapping your pictures with CGI's, all for the purpose of trying to fool everyone the earth is round. They are being paid a lot of money by god knows who to fool the world. First, I laughed at the idea... then I cried when I found out intelligent humans actually believed the Earth is flat. I'm certain ET Life exists, and they are avoiding contact with Humans, for much the same reason we avoid contact with insects.
"In kindergarten you learn the earth spins at 1350mph at the equator." What kindergarten teaches that?! Clearly he hasn't been to kindergarten yet no wonder he's confused. 🤣
Clearly you missed the first day of Kindergarten, midwest. The spin of the Earth was the first lesson, just before how to become a drag queen and how to vote liberal.
One of the things I learned in kindergarten was how to count to 100. If someone had told me the Earth was spinning at 1,350 mph I would have had no idea what they meant. Such a large number would be beyond my grasp, I would not have known how long a mile was, and I would be vague about the length of an hour. I probably would have understood the Earth was a spinning ball, but (like flat Earthers) I would have asked why we don't fall off it, since I wouldn't have known anything about gravity.
I always love how they use Google for answers that indirectly back their claims, but then disregard the answer they get if they ask the shape of Earth.
My favorite "gotcha" for the flat earthers I've encountered is... if "THEY" control everything, then surely "THEY" control Google, don't they? So if you search for something on Google and you like the answer it gives you... well, how do you know _for sure_ that that answer has not been manipulated by "THEM"? After all, if "THEY" are lying to everyone using mainstream stuff like Google, how do you know any of the info "THEY" give us is or isn't a lie?? 9 times out of 10 I'll get absolute silence because flat earthers and other conspiracy theorists don't know how to process the idea that the info they accept as truth may actually be a lie. But hey, I'm only just playing by the rules of the world thar flat Earthers and other conspiracy nuts have built up, lol 😂😂
Men like Santos are extremely helpful to me. His confidence-to-the-point-of-condescension about verifiably false ideas is such a great reminder that those most willing to make bold assertions about reality - while shaming anyone who disagrees - have long had an incredible influence on human history...and that the scientific method (and normalizing healthy, curious skepticism about others' assertions) is our only chance to know what's true. Thank you for your always-clarifying arrogance, Santos. (And thanks, Dan!)
He's back in August, doing lectures in Melbourne at townhalls around the south eastern suburbs! What is worse... is that most of his events have already sold out their tickets! show's the IQ of people living in Dandenong etc.
I think that sentiment is contributing to why this just won’t go away. In addition to the people getting suckered into believing flat earth, there is a sizeable population of people that love having their intelligence validated by watching someone this stupid.
I never ceases to amaze that people as ignorant as Santos are willing to expose their ignorance for the world to laugh at. They really do have no self awareness.
@@Slicerwizardyeah, tbf with the cost of living crisis I've been looking for an insane/ reactionary grift to sign up too. I reckon I could make plenty of wonga selling lies to rubes... My difficulty is finding one which doesn't hurt my soul too much to espouse. Edited for spelling
Remember he is like Christian apologists, he is not trying to convert anyone to his way of thinking, but rather to boost the beliefs of those who already support him. He may appear to be talking to unbelievers, but he is really talking to his followers.
@@roberts5539 - To be fair, you also have to be pretty monumentally stupid to let yourself be “led astray” by information that defies all logic, reason, and common sense and the belief of which is predicated on the delusion that there has been a global conspiracy going on for hundreds of years involving hundreds of thousand of people (pilots, etc.) who have all somehow managed to keep this secret for their entire lives. Also the people who led him astray are not “lying” since they truly believe what they are saying. Saying something that you believe to be true is not lying. By the way, flat earthers do not believe what they believe because they have been led astray or lied to but rather they have a psychological makeup which compels them to need to belief incredible things which are in direct conflict with what is accepted scientific fact. If they did not have the flat earth thing they would latch onto some other crackpot belief - such as being a holocaust denier. It’s a problem of irrationality and not one of a lack of intellect. In fact some of these people even have reasonably high IQ’s but even very intelligent people will say and do stupid things when they are highly irrational. Of course the people wasting their time arguing against these types have issues of their own. After all, an intelligent and fully rational person is not going to feel the need to enter into a debate with someone who insist that the tooth fairy is real. When someone says something that clearly ridiculous you just humor him and then go about your business. You don’t argue the point.
Santos, like most conspiracy followers, is astoundingly arrogant. They believe that the first idea to wander into their heads is absolutely correct. If it clashes with what everyone else thinks then it is everyone else who is wrong. Santos being wrong is unimaginable.
it pretty much goes to all flat earthers though. Ever interacted with any of them? Can you ever imagine Nathan Thompson saying he's wrong about anything? Seems to be a ego issue they all share where these guys can never be wrong about anything.
@@mattheweagles5123 Yeah it's like a religion. I can kinda understand questioning stuff and having a belief but it's the confidence they're 100% right about whatever the thing they're saying that has surprised me over the last few years.
A little fun trivia about the sun and Earth's rotation: If you hold out your arm at full length, and bend your hand palm facing you so that your fingers are flush together and parallel with the horizon (or perpendicular to direction of gravity, as it were), each finger marks about 15 minutes of travel for the sun across the sky. So, 4 fingers is an hour, and as you count fingers stacked from horizon to the sun, you can estimate remaining daylight pretty dang well. It's a very, very, very old life hack. I learned it when taking a land navigation course, and it's pretty spot-on. Due to human anatomy/geometry, it doesn't matter much how long your arms are, or the size of your hands, as long as you are reasonably proportionate, the angles scale with each person. I figure I'd share something related to the rotation of the Earth that isn't a bunch of Flat Earth non-sense. Enjoy!
Any thing going fast enough to rate the mach scale is a big deal in Earth's atmosphere. So using that scale out side our atmosphere still seems like a big deal.
"Let's have a look at what a vacuum is. Says here the Hoover Dust Machine has a sucking power of 1.2. Well outside the force of what any material can withstand."
TEN Rules of flerfing : 1) Strawman the globe model in a desperate bid to manufacture a "gotcha". 2) NEVER, under any circumstances, talk about your positive claim that the earth is FLAT. 3) If pushed to do the above, pretend that you "claim nothing". 4) Learn to articulate the sounds “nu” and “huh” together in quick succession and use it whenever you need to deny reality (i.e, often). 5) Pre-emptively reject the answers to every question you ask. 6) Cherry pick parts of quotes that you think might help you, whilst pretending the rest never happened. 7) Perform a ‘flerf reset’ every morning, conveniently forgetting everything that was said to you the previous day. 8) Ignore the fact that, despite more than 10 years of social media flerfing, flat earth has advanced about as far as an asthmatic Ant with particularly heavy shopping. 9) Lie. 10) Lie more.
@@trevormillar1576 Ahahah.... Great ATuin' is floating through empty space in an maybe infinite universe - so this would be much more realistic than what the nowaday flatearther thinks .... if u ask, what is "under the earth", they call you an idiot, but never gave an answer.
lazor gyroscope detection a 15 degree drift, oh that cant be right let's put another one in a cylinder 15 degree drift..oh let's pretend we didn't see it..priceless.
Things I learned today: 1. The Mayans and the Egyptians lived 500,000 years ago, before the emergence of modern homo sapiens, therefore, aliens confirmed, and 2. Santos can't fathom the concept of more than one object moving at the same time. Do you think he also has trouble with simultaneously walking AND chewing gum?
Santos may say that _'Gum = g + u + m, - m = GM, so General Motors has genetically engineered gum to be difficult to chew thus making it impossible to walk while chewing it.'_ Or something.
Wait more than one thing can’t move at a time! This is great! Now I can call is “stuck” and not go to work. Sorry boss there are other cars out today so I cannot drive. Because as we all know, only one thing can move at a time.
I always tel FLERFs that pull out linear velocities to watch the hour hand on a 24-hour clock and advise if they think it’s massively fast or immensely slow. I never get a response.
props to you dan, It really goes to show that you still care and think of flat earthers as human and not just a bunch of idiots like other debunkers ive seen out there. This is why I love this channel, the smallest gesture of no longer using a clip because of someone's passing shows how much you care. Even if I was a flat earther and didnt like you very much, that type of gesture would honestly raise my respect for you and i hope others see it that way too. You aren't here to insult or degrade anyone and that can't be proven more than by what you just did. Keep being amazing. To Bob, The clip of you saying " A 15 degree per hour drift" is forever burned into my memory and is my own way to remember you by. May you rest in peace
But he does think they're a bunch of idiots. He mocks them every video. He used the insult "tiny, 2D brain" in this very upload. What have you been watching?
I feel sorry for the guy's family but not for the guy himself. I'm sorry but the last thing the world needs right now is more stupid people going around spreading their stupidity.
My undertanding of math and physics is horrendous. My grades in school were very poor. Yet, I am capable of understanding how things actually work and can see the flaws in everything flat earth related. How hard can it be, when someone like me can understand it? Also, RIP Bob. May your meme never vanish.
This clearly shows that only dxmb and retxrted people can believe this stupid stuff. You and Dan and all his followers are the reason we have this clown world right now, full of braindead people that are full indoctrinated to believe every nonsense and bs. Yall cant even use ur logic or reasoning. Clown World
Einstein didn t have that great grades either,he was maybe just below average in university.He often needed help from better mathematicians like Minkowski.I seem to remember that Max Planck helped him with calculation concerning Mercury s orbital precession(is this correct wording?)which Einstein used as proof for his theory of relativity,as one of them.I am like you,I only had highest grades in all subjects but not maths.My slightly autistic mind made naive mistakes like one that still hurts.In 9th grade maths test I did 5+8=14 and got an 8 instead 9 grade.In Finland we have 4-10 grades.My average was 9.8 mostly due an 8 in maths and only a 9 in German.
@@rollingthunder4599 I am a chemical engineer, so i trust these researchers that found out the earth is a sphere. The same way these researchers trust me when I do research at my CO2-recovery-plant at my work.
Rest in peace, and a final farewell and thanks, Bob. Though we may have had very different ideas of our place in the world, I can respect someone who was certainly a friend to many, and who certainly wanted to understand his own relationship with the world better. Respect to you, Dan, for never forgetting that you are disagreeing with people at the end of the day.
I've been a member of your channel for almost 37 months but have been subscribed for longer than that and I've used the 15º per hour emoji more than a few times. I respect your decision to retire it and I too, out of respect for Bob will stop using the emoji. RIP Bob. Thanks Dan.
So just forget Bob ever existed? Ok if people don't use it then Bob is lost forever. Imo that's more sad. It's not like its an insult it's just thanks Bob
It would be SO fun to put this guy in an engineering department somewhere - make him design functional machinery, or airplanes, or just about anything.
@@sonystar1727the implication is that he would quickly realize just about every piece of modern technology and infrastructure takes into account the fact the earth is round in its design
Surely one of the greatest thinkers in the history of the flat earth community. There has been nobody with such a developed brain since the Ancient Egyptians almost 500,000 years ago
The density of interstellar gas clouds is several orders of magnitude closer to a vacuum than anything humans have achieved on Earth. Except for inside this man's head, of course.
Santos' production process: 1) Avoid learning at any cost 2) Wait for a vague idea to pop into the void between his ears 3) Put brain on pause, _immediately_ start recording 4) Pick random phrases that he doesn't understand from articles he hasn't read 5) Confidently redefine reality
@@jellslixcy6168 Oh no he doesn't. Not enough to buy even a packet of jelly beans and certainly not enough for a laser gyroscope. On that topic ... inSANeTOSser should get one of those, given its recent results.
Sorry, @SciManDan, I really have to disagree with you! You CAN have a perfect vacuum! I own one! I've had my Henry for about 15 years and it still picks up all the dirt on my carpet... that sounds pretty perfect to me! (RIP Bob!)
THe funniest part of this video was when Santos says "Orbiting our central sun" and I just thought to myself "I have never heard of that in my life." and then it cuts to Dan just saying "never heard of that" and I cracked up.
Lower secondary school physics. As a science teacher it was important to have these concepts clarified. Thanks Santos. Bob, although straying on the wrong side of science, always struck me as a nice guy and a good man. RIP Bob.
Man, this Santos guy is brilliant. He can count and speak words, sometimes even big words. And he can point at things. And he has a laptop too. What more could you want? This guy is a keeper ladies.
It's not the ladies who shoud be nervous dude, lol. Talking to flat Earthers is like being in prison, don' t bend down, because they're always looking for Uranus, lmao.
I love how Santos uses Mach (The ratio of the speed of a moving body to the speed of sound) to discuss the speed of objects travelling through the vacuum of space. It is an utterly meaningless concept. If you alter the composition of the medium that sound is radiating through, its speed (and thus its ratio - the Mach number) will also change. For example, sound will travel through nickel about one and a half times faster than it would through brass, and as the speed of sound traveling through the vacuum of space is zero, so too is its Mach number.
Also when the medium is traveling along with you Mach is relative to that medium. Otherwise nobody on the Concord would have been able to talk to anyone sitting in front of them ...
I think Mach numbers technically only apply when the medium is a fluid, but, yeah...using a Mach number to describe the Earth's rotation and/or its velocity through the solar system / galaxy / universe is completely nonsensical.
I spent some time in a calibration lab checking the calibration of aircraft machmeters. We did it with the meter mounted in a vacuum chamber with an external tube supplying simulated pitot probe air pressure. We sucked air out of the vacuum chamber following a chart that gave standard air pressure at various heights. At each specified height we set the pitot pressure to various values to simulate speed through the air at that altitude. It sounds quite complicated but is pretty routine. The reason for doing this was that the speed of sound in the atmosphere changes (slows) with increasing altitude so a standard air speed indicator does not have mach numbers on its dial. If you look at published maximum speeds for aircraft that can exceed the speed of sound it usually includes the fact that the quoted mach numbers are at sea level. Go high enough in the atmosphere and walking pace would be greater than mach 1 (can't think how you would prove this for real though).
The mach numbers he's using aren't meant to actually make sense, it's just a "look at the big numbers!" tactic. His followers don't know what "mach" means (come to think of it, maybe he doesn't, either).
As Einstein once said: 'Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... and I'm not sure about the universe.' Does Santos have kids? If so they must be so proud of their dad's genius. Some people seriously make you wonder how the human race has managed to survive this long. It's a good job ignorance and utter stupidity are not hereditary... that said, perhaps they are?
You don't even need a powerful telescope to see the nebulas that Santos claims are CGI. A 300 - 400 dollar quality amateur telescope is all you need. Yes they will not look as spectacular as images made with giant professional telescopes (for obvious reasons), but you can take great images yourself these days if you learn astrophotography. And if Santos doesnt trust digital cameras he can use regular analogue film cameras too avoid any possible NASA skullduggery.
I got to look through a powerful telescope last year, at a national park. We could see the milky way, craters on the moon, even the blurry glows of other galaxies. But they must have had some supercomputer hidden in the telescope, capable of rendering all that out in real time.
Good on you for respecting Bob, honestly. Despite the disagreements and all, he was a friend and family member to many. Outside of the flat earth stuff he probably was a fine guy. RIP to him and prayers tk his family
But you can't divorce him from the flat earth. He deliberately pushed this rubbish onto poorly educated and mentally unwell people and he did that for attention and/or money. That makes him a scumbag in my book, and his death doesn't change my opinion of him one iota.
That old man cannot realize that the entire mass of the solar system combined is not enough for fill a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1 % from the total space occupied by the solar system. If there is one molecule of gas in a container the volume of the molecule is negligible compared to that of the container and we can assume it’s a vacuum, apply the same concept for space
As a math teacher….I think I know what Santos was like in school. “When will we ever need this?” “Why does any of this matter?” And so, they stop learning, get behind, and apparently, Santos never did quite catch up despite deciding to try to do “science”, but mostly doing it to be anti-authority, because he’s too lost to understand things and thinks he’s being lied to. Sad really, I mean…he wants to know, but everything he does is tainted by his need to reject the established science as mind control or something he feels is sinister, like….religion.🙄
You're saying quite essential things there mate. I remember when I went to school I had this exact "conflict" with myself but even though I thought "well, gotta learn something" and while maturing I got the idea of not just "learning" stuff but getting behind it. I think there is a big difference and that 'abstract' difference is, what flat earthers or "sceptics" often criticize. They often talk about "textbook education" and play down education in general while claiming to "get behind things" yet unfortunately for them the "getting behind" part is substantially dependant on "learning" things in the first place. I often told FAs that being principled isn't a bad thing but if they criticize the principles of others they should acknowledge their own and stop pressing double standards because that is exactly what they themselves don't want to be treated like. Usually when I participate in a debate about things like flat earth I compare this to "making mistakes and learning from them", because it is the exact same process. You can't disprove the basics if you can't get behind it so it's quite necessary to at least understand the basic concept. With that said I don't categorize flat earthers in such a debate principally, I try to get behind their understanding of the world. To be on even grounds I ofc expect them to do the same, otherwise the dialogue is a big waste of time for both parties. Most discussions I had regarding this topic were pretty civil while I always tried to get behind their intentions and - well - sometimes forced myself into the mind of someone with a different perception. Most of these people have abstract and irrational fears, some just feel some sort of disconnection, some have feelings of disgust towards science and many of those might have different reasons - wether they are personal, ideological or based on experience. Why do I explain that? I brought some very interesting perspectives into the lives of others just by being respectful, trying to share their scepticism and trying to even the grounds we're standing on when it comes to that discussion and ultimately I had some of those people acknowledging a globe earth as the only "naturally possible" shape of the earth. I do agree with them that there might be numerous things we as "mere mortals" are not 'obligated' to know but this shouldn't be the reason we stop learning and getting behind things - including the perspective of others - as absurd and clueless it might seem.
Nah, don't be sad. What we see here is just self-imposed intellectual immaturity. No one forced him to be what he is nowadays. This is no reason for sadness, instead it is well deserved!;)
except the reality is 20 years after leaving school, i have forgotten nearly everything i learned in math because i've never needed to use it, the math i learned in grade school gets used all the time, but all that high school stuff should of been optional, even if i did need to use some high school level math on a rare occasion, i whip out my phones calculator a device nearly every human has on them at all times
@@mikekilkelly2138but this is not true for everyone! School gives you the tools to do as much as possible in the future! Some works requires advanced math and others not, but it's better to have learnt and forgot, that never learned something!
The thing that always gets me is why people think scientists would put this much effort into “tricking” the world into thinking the earth is round and all the other random conspiracy theories. Like “yes. We’re spending billions of dollars to trick you into thinking we live on a sphere that’s traveling through space.” What would there be to gain from that?
My Grandson who is nearly 3 years old is now quite the chatterer, and although he does jumble words together and uses the wrong words on occasion, he still makes more sense than Santosser.
I mapped Bernard’s (edit: Barnard's) star movement over the years using my SC 8 inch scope when I first got into astronomy. Sketched the background stars to compare to Bernard’s star. I was thrilled to find I could map its movement. I still have an old sketchbook; if the diagrams are in there I’ll go out and map it again to see the difference.
Bernard’s? Barnard’s star maybe? You’re lucky you can see and find it easily. There’s far to much light pollution where I live for me to see or find it easily plus I only have smaller refractors or a mak.
@@murph8411 *face-palm* yes, you are correct. It's been couple of decades since I last went looking, as you can tell. sigh. I live in a northern Canada (ontario) so even from my backyard I can find fainter stars. One night I even spotted the North American nebula (hope I got that name right) thru my binos. I didn't even realize what I was seeing at first, until it clicked in my brain. I can't see it now though. Since that first sighting many years ago there's been a lot of commercial development south of me (sports field, truck stops and fuel stations for the arterial highway, and a couple of years ago, a casino).
I was driving on the m1 at 3am a while back. There was just me and a car around 100 yards infront of me, they stayed that distance for well over 20 minutes. Turns out they were going the same direction and speed as myself. The whole time I didn't even feel like I was moving (despite doing the speed limit). I can only imagine how confusing this would be to people like Santos.
He reminds me of Rand Paul, a member of Congress in the USA. Rand Paul tried to get approved as an eye doctor but could NOT pass the tests. So Rand Paul went and started his own "agency" to accredit people and claim them to be a "doctor" and passed himself.
Seriously, why do these people pretend to understand maths and science when they regularly demonstrate they understand neither? Why don't they submit papers for peer review if they are so confident in their workings out on a white board?!
He's 60 years old, yet his mind is like he's 12 years old who believes he has come across a major revelation and needs to share this new found knowledge that he's sure no one has ever thought of.
I completely understand that there are people in the world with this level of intelligence. I don't understand why they choose to broadcast this to the rest of the world, and I'm flabbergasted that they choose to call other people stupid when said people attempt to educate them.
I don't think these people are stupid in the sense of a cognitive impairment; maybe even the opposite - most of flat earthers seems to be quite intelligent. But they seem to be jealous of people who are in positions of intellectual authority that their desire to tear them down is much stronger than their desire for knowing the truth and that made educating them impossible. When they engage in an argument I feel it's never really about trying to prove their theories or disproof the scientific theory - it's really about proving that the scientists are evil, that they're willingly and knowingly lying to you; or that they're controlled by a bigger force.
Your sarcasm is hilariously misplaced. Flat Earthers don't REALLY believe what they say. They are basically harmless trolls who enjoy "debating" the outlandish theory. SUCKED IN! DUH! LOL
Because the internet gives them a voice they've never had. Stupid people used to have to stand on street corners and risk real physical harm to spout such nonsense. Now-days there is no such threat. Yet.
Wow, I can't believe I'm so sad about Bob's paasing, not only did I really enjoy the recurring joke, it had tranacended the original joke, and had become its own thing... But more importantly, I'm sad that he died in either ignorance, or before he could stop lying to people if he wasn't really a flat Earther
Yep, in Australian kindergartens as much as parents might like to think their kids are learning quantum physics. it's pretty much finger painting and nap time.
Nap time is really meditation and reflection on what they learned and the finger paints help them with their organic chemistry formulas since their hand dexterity has not developed yet.
Santos: "If we're going so fast, why don't we anything new?" Off-screen camera guy: "What about all that new stuff we see all the time?" Santos: "Oh, that's just CGI."
Well, that's basicly the whole Flat Earth Movements arguments, right? Get something asked, don't know an answer to it, other than the earth is round, and then they invent some BS argument to fit their theory.
And they can buy a good telescope and verify for themselves but won’t because Santos will lose his channel he needs to keep the lie going for his ego and dollars,what a sad life to have.
I like when they say star positions havent changed throughout history. Then theyre told that star positions have in fact changed and they just hand wave it away, "You weren't there 2,000 years ago..." Like why bring up the argument at all if your standard of proof is, "you literally have to be 5,000 years old and made the measurements yourself..."?
RIP Bob. Santos is such a well taught man - basics of elementary school knowledge are just one googling away. Tell the Dinos that "comets in space are just CGI"
RIP Bob, unlike many of your followers you attempted to walk the walk and gave us many a smile along the way. Much respect for Dan for memorialising you this way. We have our memories of the clip and you'll never leave us but this way we can respect the you as a man who shared our time on earth and was willing to experiment to prove his ideas.
Full Respect to you Dan for retiring the 15phd, I never knew he had passed away, out with all the flat earth stuff may he may rest in peace, Thanks Bob 🙏🏻💜
In a way, I agree. Does the availability of information and having all this complexity at the tip of your fingers simply overwhelm some people, so they start looking for simpler truths that they can understand and reject all that knowledge that already exists?
I honestly feel so bad for this man. Think about his age, his life, the way his mind works. He has achieved nothing. He has actively gone backwards intellectually and brought others with him. That is his life's greatest achievement. He will pass on soon and have given less than nothing back to society and his legacy will be one of failure and humiliation on the internet. That's genuinely sad to me.
actually he has given a valuable gift to society... ever hear of the phrase " dont be an asshole or dont be an idiot"? he has contributed to the world.... "Dont be a Santos"
I often think that too, especially for people who have gone far down the hole. What it must be like to live in a world where you think that stuff is real. What a terrible and wasted life.
People like Santos is why the world is turning to crap. Ignorance is excusable because not everyone knows everything but stupidity allows a person to be unaware of their ignorance and think they know everything. It hurts my head to think of the amount of hours Santos spent working out his bonehead formulas of Mach and "central star of the universe?" and actually managed to convince at least one other person (his cameraman) that his hypotheses, and I say that in the loosest of terms, is correct and worthy of spreading to the masses. To me this is the perfect guy to bring as your guest to a Dinner for Schmucks. You would be guaranteed to win once you got him to give his presentation, lol.
The world isn't turning to crap, social media and the Internet in general (where people spew mis- and dis-information), is why it seems that way. It's honestly no better or worse than it ever was. People like this aren't common at all, most at least have a modicum of common sense.
Nothing new here. Back in 1978 my sixth grade teacher couldn't understand why a student's plane had flown south of Alaska when flying from Seoul to Seattle. She pointed to her big Mercator projection map of the world hanging over the blackboard which showed it should have flown farther south. I went up and drew a straight line between the two cities on a globe for her but dismissed this and went back to her big map saying they were "flying with the jet stream". That's when I learned that some people will never understand these things.
@@celticlass8573 I used to think that way as well, but too few of us are standing on the sideline thinking these idiots will just go away if we ignore them. If you got to a political rally these days you see more and more "intelligent people" being just as irrational about topics they either over-exaggerate or have no understanding of and this mob mentality of ignorance persists. This used to be just a few kooks like Santos standing in a group on a corner being shunned by the masses. Now it is a heavy percentage of the main body politic, not the majority but enough that they can't be ignored and their representatives have to pander to them, or in some case are even elected from those same irrational groups. This is a huge issue in the USA right now.
The Earth has always been spinning around a pink unicorn. The particles and stars around us are simply dust and glitter flossing from its long silky tale.
His video ended with a perfect demonstration of the danger of letting flat Earth theory stand untested. Denying existencial threats like comets and asteroids is a thing that could put society at risk (after all, even with technology we have now we could deflect one if we had enough advance warning) but imagine if the same was said for global warming, environmental pollution, disease, and other threats we know about because of science but denied by conspiracy theorists
The thing is: even the most mundane claim can have the same effect, if it is based on science denial and therefore creates a precedent for people absorbing it. From that point it gets increasingly easy to deny the other facts. Something which one could very well observe when conservatives worldwide used this to politicize wearing masks and vaccinations at the direct cost of human life and life quality. In fact with half the US electorate gladly believing their lies and christofascists being in power in key states, the levee might already have broken without any means to returning to rationality soon.
Even the idea of flat earth is but one of many conspiracy distractions that the extreme right use on a regular basis and no doubt even more people looking into it now thanks to that Guns Babies Jesus congress lady. Yeah those 3 vague words are what she ran on and won. Now I wish a meteor would hit us thanks to people like her.
ngl, bro looks like australian john malkovich from wish. bro looks like he goes exclusively to full moon parties and helps people get spiritual experiences by selling them real shitty acid and tainted hashish.
I respect your decision to retire the "15 degrees per hour," quote, Dan. Very gentlemanly of you. RIP Bob.
Even in my head, I say to "a 15 degree per hour drift": Thanks Bob, Rest In Peace.
Respect 😊❤ Bob may have been on the other team, but he at least told some truth. In all ways, he will be missed.
My best friend died from the c19 just over a year ago... She was my best friend because she always challenged me, made me think with her perspective, and cherished her for making me improve and think from other views.
Bob had his views, and was seemingly nice about it... RIP mate. ❤
Very nice of you guys
But imagine if he said “Rest in Peace Bob” as the line instead. Would keep it funny and more tasteful ha.
Yeah despite his belief, he was still a husband and father (I believe) and probably a good friend to many. Just because he was lost in one relatively small aspect of life doesn’t justify legit hate or anything towards the guy. Plenty of disagreements and attempts to teach, but in the end that doesn’t truly define him.
RIP Bob
It's so adorable when flat earthers apply human-scale to galactic concepts. It's like a preschooler trying to wrap their head around negative numbers.
None of them seem to be able to understand scale in any form.
The difference is that eventually the preschooler figures it out (tho they might not still be a preschooler by the time they do)
And never remotely attempt to validate if they even have a sense of the real scale
More like a frog stuck in well trapped for whole life not knowing the outside world
Pity those poor photons hurtling across the universe at~1080000000Km/h
This is like going on a car trip and complaining that, despite going 75 mph, the stuff inside the car hasn't changed.
I was more thinking. Same car at the same speed. then looking at a map of continental USA and trying to figure out why the dot. repricenting where the car is. hasn´t realy moved. even after a couple of a hour or two.
@@exploatores He's doing both, really.
how can i be moving 75mph when a human can only run at most 20mph?
A bad trip.
I can't feel any motion in a car, therefore it's all fake. And if the Earth was round I'd be going downhill all the time, prove me wrong!
"They're all CGI images"
As an undergraduate, I took hundreds of images of a variety of nebulae using a 36 inch reflector for a final year project. Those images were taken on glass photographic plates (this was long before CCD technology) and those are still in the university archive. Prints were made and were widely available. I still have most of them.
Two questions for Santos:
1) How do you use digital CGI technology on an analogue photographic plate?, and
2) How do you do it 20 years before CGI was invented?
£10000 for a plausible reply.
Oh but they've been hiding CGI tech from us for ages too /s
This right here is a golden comment that shuts down these trolls for good. If only they had any shame!
I'm taking images with my telescopes every clear night (I have a home observatory). Though I use CCD and CMOS sensors now, they're still photographs. And there's no CGI involved. I'm happy to invite anyone, even flerfers, to come spend a night imaging with me. They can look at the raw images and see for themselves...no CGI. :)
One of my Lab Instructors in college designed and build a tracking system for his Telescope for long exposure photos, he showed us some of his photographs, AMAZING.
They will just say you are a part of the conspiracy or something, and being paid to make this claims. There is a chance you were not aware of this, please report to your closest Illuminati headquarter ;)
You have to hand it to Santos. He makes DITRH look well-informed, which is an astonishing achievement.
As far as I know, DIRTH has never made death threats. I can show you Santos threatening me, as can FTFE.
So if Dave In The Rabbit Hole has an IQ of 0 (zero), do you mean that Santos' IQ is maybe 50% higher?!😏
@@Soundbrigade nice
@@Soundbrigade naaah but it's at least double!
The stars not getting closer thing just kills me 😂 It's like saying "I'm not aging because no matter how much time passes, my grandma is always older than me." smh
I am not aging, yesterday was only one night sleep away, just like it was years ago... And when I go to sleep again, I will open my eyes tomorrow, also like it was years ago. You see, things do not change a bit .......
@@erikblaas5826nothing new on a flat earth.....
@@erikblaas5826 Bro wtf are you talking about, spacebrain ass
@@erikblaas5826 Technically, no one will ever actually see tomorrow; The very instant that tomorrow arrives it becomes today. It doesn't matter how many days you live, you will still never see tomorrow. The speed at which time passes is related to how fast you're moving through space; Unless you leave Earth & move at a different speed, you are stuck at moving through time at 60 seconds per minute. Just as the "goalpost of time" is always in motion, so are the "landmarks of space" also moving.
LOL, I remember as a kid saying to my dad, "When I get older than you..."
He then proceeded to explain why that will NEVER happen.
I was crushed, BUT, no doubt, it's one of the reasons I never fell for the flat earth hoax.
I guess he didn't have a dad to speak the harsh truth to him. LOL
The smirk on Santos's face when he thinks he's figured something out is PRICELESS 😅 he is literally saying the dumbest sh%* and smirking like he's a genius or something 😂
😎 AWWWWW YEAH...
_fucking NAILED IT_
LOL, everything is a revelation to them.
IKR... it's hilariously ridiculous
Meanwhile, every properly trained astronomer and physicist has their IQ drop slightly, purely by osmosis with this idiocy,
Remember the famous quote: "In space, nobody can hear you complain there's no sound and the speed of sound in space is 0."
What’s funny is I do astrophotography for a hobby. So is NASA infiltrating my pictures?
Yes, obviously (to a flat earther) they are sneaking into your house while you sleep, swapping your pictures with CGI's, all for the purpose of trying to fool everyone the earth is round. They are being paid a lot of money by god knows who to fool the world. First, I laughed at the idea... then I cried when I found out intelligent humans actually believed the Earth is flat. I'm certain ET Life exists, and they are avoiding contact with Humans, for much the same reason we avoid contact with insects.
No, but they are altering your perception of it through mimetic satellite mind rays.
The only material that can stop these rays... Is tin.
"In kindergarten you learn the earth spins at 1350mph at the equator."
What kindergarten teaches that?! Clearly he hasn't been to kindergarten yet no wonder he's confused. 🤣
It's not even the right speed.
probably never been to school either, got homeschooled by christian-extremists
Clearly you missed the first day of Kindergarten, midwest. The spin of the Earth was the first lesson, just before how to become a drag queen and how to vote liberal.
Kindergarten teaches in kilometers if at all. Most of the world does, but there is this little village up in the north of France...
One of the things I learned in kindergarten was how to count to 100. If someone had told me the Earth was spinning at 1,350 mph I would have had no idea what they meant. Such a large number would be beyond my grasp, I would not have known how long a mile was, and I would be vague about the length of an hour. I probably would have understood the Earth was a spinning ball, but (like flat Earthers) I would have asked why we don't fall off it, since I wouldn't have known anything about gravity.
I always love how they use Google for answers that indirectly back their claims, but then disregard the answer they get if they ask the shape of Earth.
My favorite "gotcha" for the flat earthers I've encountered is... if "THEY" control everything, then surely "THEY" control Google, don't they? So if you search for something on Google and you like the answer it gives you... well, how do you know _for sure_ that that answer has not been manipulated by "THEM"? After all, if "THEY" are lying to everyone using mainstream stuff like Google, how do you know any of the info "THEY" give us is or isn't a lie??
9 times out of 10 I'll get absolute silence because flat earthers and other conspiracy theorists don't know how to process the idea that the info they accept as truth may actually be a lie. But hey, I'm only just playing by the rules of the world thar flat Earthers and other conspiracy nuts have built up, lol 😂😂
Just like religious apologists cherry picking all over their holy books.
Or Force of gravity…
Never mind the fact that they keep using Google Maps or Google Earth, both using a globe.
@@davidmcgill1000and would be impossible without GPS satellites in space.
Men like Santos are extremely helpful to me. His confidence-to-the-point-of-condescension about verifiably false ideas is such a great reminder that those most willing to make bold assertions about reality - while shaming anyone who disagrees - have long had an incredible influence on human history...and that the scientific method (and normalizing healthy, curious skepticism about others' assertions) is our only chance to know what's true. Thank you for your always-clarifying arrogance, Santos. (And thanks, Dan!)
He also blocks comments so keeps himself ignorant.
"If you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning."
- Oscar Wilde (I think)
@@Steelmage99 Nobody is ever completely worthless. They can always serve as a bad example.
You can't argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
we have an entire generation z who falls into this category.
I'm so glad Santos has left Australia. Our national average IQ just went up.
There Aboriginals with no modern education that are more intelligent than him.
He's back in August, doing lectures in Melbourne at townhalls around the south eastern suburbs! What is worse... is that most of his events have already sold out their tickets! show's the IQ of people living in Dandenong etc.
Wasn’t he doing tranny trivia at the Post in Melbourne?
@@thomasp.crenshaw185wowww that’s insane.
@@trentbrownstone1481 He was playing a spanish guitar gig last weekend at The Cornish Arms in Brunswick.
If he wants to see a vacuum, he needs to get his head scanned.
I think if he wants that, he has to drink the piss of someone working at Dyson factory, not his own.
I see on the desk his tinfoil hat, a square one by the look of things, he can whip it on if he is in danger of being scanned.
Excellent comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂
His dedication to getting absolutely everything wrong is quite impressive.
This sir been reading the internet. Got to respect the effort.
goated comment
@monsterfurby and all whilst holding a white board and making knowing little nods and incredulous faces - impressive indeed.
I'm glad I wasn't eating or drinking anything when he explained away globular-clusters as CGI!
These people are too far gone it seems.
Whenever I feel insecure about my own intelligence, I can always rely on flat earthers to make me feel better
fr, insane that people can actually be this stupid
Please research it yourself, the earth is flat. It says so in sura 18 text 86.
@@prp3231 brushing your teeth with engine oil is better than toothpaste. You should try it because I said so
I think that sentiment is contributing to why this just won’t go away. In addition to the people getting suckered into believing flat earth, there is a sizeable population of people that love having their intelligence validated by watching someone this stupid.
@@Bittahaironit 💀
He uses Astronomy articles to debunk Astronomy. It's like jumping into the Ocean to prove water doesn't exist.
brilliant comment!!!! love this!
I never ceases to amaze that people as ignorant as Santos are willing to expose their ignorance for the world to laugh at. They really do have no self awareness.
Totally agree. Dunningg kruger effect.
He's willing to do it for the Benjamins.
Stating absurdities with extreme confidence is a symptom of the Dunning-Kruger derangement syndrome.
@@Slicerwizardyeah, tbf with the cost of living crisis I've been looking for an insane/ reactionary grift to sign up too.
I reckon I could make plenty of wonga selling lies to rubes... My difficulty is finding one which doesn't hurt my soul too much to espouse.
Edited for spelling
Remember he is like Christian apologists, he is not trying to convert anyone to his way of thinking, but rather to boost the beliefs of those who already support him.
He may appear to be talking to unbelievers, but he is really talking to his followers.
Calling him clueless is the height of kindness and decency.
to be fair, he has been led astray by some pretty polished lying.
Because he's not just clueless he's batshit crazy
Santos, more like 🤚 Hand-toss!
@@roberts5539 - To be fair, you also have to be pretty monumentally stupid to let yourself be “led astray” by information that defies all logic, reason, and common sense and the belief of which is predicated on the delusion that there has been a global conspiracy going on for hundreds of years involving hundreds of thousand of people (pilots, etc.) who have all somehow managed to keep this secret for their entire lives. Also the people who led him astray are not “lying” since they truly believe what they are saying. Saying something that you believe to be true is not lying. By the way, flat earthers do not believe what they believe because they have been led astray or lied to but rather they have a psychological makeup which compels them to need to belief incredible things which are in direct conflict with what is accepted scientific fact. If they did not have the flat earth thing they would latch onto some other crackpot belief - such as being a holocaust denier. It’s a problem of irrationality and not one of a lack of intellect. In fact some of these people even have reasonably high IQ’s but even very intelligent people will say and do stupid things when they are highly irrational. Of course the people wasting their time arguing against these types have issues of their own. After all, an intelligent and fully rational person is not going to feel the need to enter into a debate with someone who insist that the tooth fairy is real. When someone says something that clearly ridiculous you just humor him and then go about your business. You don’t argue the point.
it's actually an insult to cluelessness. Please people do not take this Santos character as an example of what Australians represent.
His mind will really be blown when he finds out that,
"In space...............no-one can hear you fart!"
How can you have wind in space tho?
Imagine Santos, but in space!
@@XtreeM_FaiL _go forth Santos and break wind where no man broke wind before!_
@@Stonemonkie1 It's called thrust.
But do I still get to feel the cheeks of my arse rumble? 'cause that's my favourite part.
It physically hurts listening to him.
Santos, like most conspiracy followers, is astoundingly arrogant. They believe that the first idea to wander into their heads is absolutely correct. If it clashes with what everyone else thinks then it is everyone else who is wrong. Santos being wrong is unimaginable.
Only to Santos...
it pretty much goes to all flat earthers though. Ever interacted with any of them? Can you ever imagine Nathan Thompson saying he's wrong about anything? Seems to be a ego issue they all share where these guys can never be wrong about anything.
@@jameslyddall flat earthers, antivaxxers, 15 minute city/WEF, lizard over lords. Whatever the conspiracy the attitude seems to be the same.
Like the notice in the offices of the Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
"The Guide is definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate."
@@mattheweagles5123 Yeah it's like a religion. I can kinda understand questioning stuff and having a belief but it's the confidence they're 100% right about whatever the thing they're saying that has surprised me over the last few years.
66,600 miles per hour? Sorry, I'm from continental Europa, so the speed would be ~ 107,182 km/h - a truly evil number.
There has to be a frame of reference relative to which we move at 666km/h or 666666 km/h or 666666666 km/h or ...
Lol
Obviously the devil is an American
Everyone knows the devil uses the imperial system :)
Everyone knows the Iron Maiden Song 107182 the number of the beast.
Are you sure he wants to be called a flat earther?
*disposable proverbialist
'demonstrable fantasist'
"senile researcher"
A member of a flat EEG graph community
Should we promote him to a natural born moron or something like that?
A little fun trivia about the sun and Earth's rotation: If you hold out your arm at full length, and bend your hand palm facing you so that your fingers are flush together and parallel with the horizon (or perpendicular to direction of gravity, as it were), each finger marks about 15 minutes of travel for the sun across the sky.
So, 4 fingers is an hour, and as you count fingers stacked from horizon to the sun, you can estimate remaining daylight pretty dang well. It's a very, very, very old life hack. I learned it when taking a land navigation course, and it's pretty spot-on. Due to human anatomy/geometry, it doesn't matter much how long your arms are, or the size of your hands, as long as you are reasonably proportionate, the angles scale with each person.
I figure I'd share something related to the rotation of the Earth that isn't a bunch of Flat Earth non-sense. Enjoy!
I love that his whole argument is "big numbers are scary"
Any thing going fast enough to rate the mach scale is a big deal in Earth's atmosphere.
So using that scale out side our atmosphere still seems like a big deal.
@@michaelburk9171 (when you understand nothing)
Santos is the master of the 'argument from personal incredulity', which is a form of an 'argument from ignorance' fallacy.
Especially scary are numbers with three sixes in a row.
"Let's have a look at what a vacuum is. Says here the Hoover Dust Machine has a sucking power of 1.2. Well outside the force of what any material can withstand."
This is an example of what happens when you have very high levels of confidence and very low levels of understanding.
Or a functioning brain.
This phenomenon was described and documented by Justin Kruger and David Dunning of Cornell University
He's made the classic faux pas of mistaking his ambition with his ability... 😂
Those are often associated since one tends to lead to the other.
@@chrisantoniou4366 That sounds like a Casey Stoner quote 😂
TEN Rules of flerfing :
1) Strawman the globe model in a desperate bid to manufacture a "gotcha".
2) NEVER, under any circumstances, talk about your positive claim that the earth is FLAT.
3) If pushed to do the above, pretend that you "claim nothing".
4) Learn to articulate the sounds “nu” and “huh” together in quick succession and use it whenever you need to deny reality (i.e, often).
5) Pre-emptively reject the answers to every question you ask.
6) Cherry pick parts of quotes that you think might help you, whilst pretending the rest never happened.
7) Perform a ‘flerf reset’ every morning, conveniently forgetting everything that was said to you the previous day.
8) Ignore the fact that, despite more than 10 years of social media flerfing, flat earth has advanced about as far as an asthmatic Ant with particularly heavy shopping.
9) Lie.
10) Lie more.
You forget: If your globetard opponent can produce real evidence - use insults and derogatives to prove him wrong.
I've seen this one in the last video
Aren't you being a little hard on him😂😂😂😂
Gotta lie to flerf!
Would be funnier if you dropped the last point. So the last then said "9. Lie"
10,000 dollars for a picture of the edge of the flat earth they claim to live on
A million for a photo of the underside of the flat earth! Or of the four elephants standing on a turtle that support it!
@@trevormillar1576 Ahahah.... Great ATuin' is floating through empty space in an maybe infinite universe - so this would be much more realistic than what the nowaday flatearther thinks .... if u ask, what is "under the earth", they call you an idiot, but never gave an answer.
@@trevormillar1576 Dammit, I really need the money but I'm not good at CGI. Can I just draw it with some crayons?
Rest in peace, Bob. And thanks, Bob, for the wonderful proof of the globe.
lazor gyroscope detection a 15 degree drift, oh that cant be right let's put another one in a cylinder
15 degree drift..oh let's pretend we didn't see it..priceless.
That 15 degree per hour drift
Will be remembered by at least 200k people
R.I.P Bob
Things I learned today: 1. The Mayans and the Egyptians lived 500,000 years ago, before the emergence of modern homo sapiens, therefore, aliens confirmed, and 2. Santos can't fathom the concept of more than one object moving at the same time. Do you think he also has trouble with simultaneously walking AND chewing gum?
Santos may say that _'Gum = g + u + m, - m = GM, so General Motors has genetically engineered gum to be difficult to chew thus making it impossible to walk while chewing it.'_
Or something.
For sure.
SAVAGE. And I love it!
I'm convinced he also doesn't think water is water if there's other things in it, like fish. :P
Wait more than one thing can’t move at a time! This is great! Now I can call is “stuck” and not go to work. Sorry boss there are other cars out today so I cannot drive. Because as we all know, only one thing can move at a time.
I always tel FLERFs that pull out linear velocities to watch the hour hand on a 24-hour clock and advise if they think it’s massively fast or immensely slow. I never get a response.
props to you dan, It really goes to show that you still care and think of flat earthers as human and not just a bunch of idiots like other debunkers ive seen out there. This is why I love this channel, the smallest gesture of no longer using a clip because of someone's passing shows how much you care. Even if I was a flat earther and didnt like you very much, that type of gesture would honestly raise my respect for you and i hope others see it that way too. You aren't here to insult or degrade anyone and that can't be proven more than by what you just did. Keep being amazing. To Bob, The clip of you saying " A 15 degree per hour drift" is forever burned into my memory and is my own way to remember you by. May you rest in peace
Well said. I'm sure there are plenty of other clips out there. But I'm thinking none will surpass Bob's.
But he does think they're a bunch of idiots. He mocks them every video. He used the insult "tiny, 2D brain" in this very upload. What have you been watching?
@@Squant it seems you missed the video where he mentioned that his own mocking is for entertainment value.
I feel sorry for the guy's family but not for the guy himself. I'm sorry but the last thing the world needs right now is more stupid people going around spreading their stupidity.
@@Squant that's not much of an insult, more of a description, considering the vile language Santos flings at Dan, which is not fit to reproduce here.
My undertanding of math and physics is horrendous. My grades in school were very poor. Yet, I am capable of understanding how things actually work and can see the flaws in everything flat earth related. How hard can it be, when someone like me can understand it?
Also, RIP Bob. May your meme never vanish.
Some folk help us to understand the world better as they arrive, others as they leave.
This clearly shows that only dxmb and retxrted people can believe this stupid stuff. You and Dan and all his followers are the reason we have this clown world right now, full of braindead people that are full indoctrinated to believe every nonsense and bs. Yall cant even use ur logic or reasoning. Clown World
Don’t be so hard on yourself, grades are no indication of intelligence.
@@beez1598 True, but they aren't meaningless either.
Einstein didn t have that great grades either,he was maybe just below average in university.He often needed help from better mathematicians like Minkowski.I seem to remember that Max Planck helped him with calculation concerning Mercury s orbital precession(is this correct wording?)which Einstein used as proof for his theory of relativity,as one of them.I am like you,I only had highest grades in all subjects but not maths.My slightly autistic mind made naive mistakes like one that still hurts.In 9th grade maths test I did 5+8=14 and got an 8 instead 9 grade.In Finland we have 4-10 grades.My average was 9.8 mostly due an 8 in maths and only a 9 in German.
As my former chemistry professor at the University of Vienna in Austria used to say: 'There are individuals whose ignorance is enough for 5 people.
Well his is enough for 250k people lmao
@@LotFrat I was gonna double the OP estimate, but 250k is close enough.
does that apply to you? have you ever researched if the earth is a sphere or not?
@@rollingthunder4599 have you ever researched if you have neuro synaptic connections or not?
@@rollingthunder4599 I am a chemical engineer, so i trust these researchers that found out the earth is a sphere. The same way these researchers trust me when I do research at my CO2-recovery-plant at my work.
The Flat Earth Society just announced they now have members all around the globe 😂
Rest in peace, and a final farewell and thanks, Bob. Though we may have had very different ideas of our place in the world, I can respect someone who was certainly a friend to many, and who certainly wanted to understand his own relationship with the world better. Respect to you, Dan, for never forgetting that you are disagreeing with people at the end of the day.
As an Australian I feel qualified to observe that Santos is Australia’s greatest wanker. P.s. sad to hear about Bob. Nice gesture.
but he is a mexican now... yaknow, its a real shame that a person screws up and runs to a different city or state but to have to leave a country.....
😂
I assumed Santos hit too many shrooms up Nimbin way.
@@kylemorris1484 Yeah, and skipped many a school lesson, but studied hard on the bible.
@@bunnykillerwhen you say Mexican do you mean he moved to Victoria?
I've been a member of your channel for almost 37 months but have been subscribed for longer than that and I've used the 15º per hour emoji more than a few times. I respect your decision to retire it and I too, out of respect for Bob will stop using the emoji. RIP Bob. Thanks Dan.
So just forget Bob ever existed? Ok if people don't use it then Bob is lost forever.
Imo that's more sad. It's not like its an insult it's just thanks Bob
@@thermalrain_yt9725I agree.
Why wouldn't acknowledging that Bob showed experimental observation of rotation... be considered respectful?! 😕
It would be SO fun to put this guy in an engineering department somewhere - make him design functional machinery, or airplanes, or just about anything.
Not for the people who has to use the things he designed…
We wouldn't use them, we would put them on display. williamjensen is basically describing what an artist is. @@bewing77
Why? Is he an engineer? If he wants to do he will. You don't decide alright? What about somebody put you there? 😂 Think about it first.
@@sonystar1727the implication is that he would quickly realize just about every piece of modern technology and infrastructure takes into account the fact the earth is round in its design
Boeing and Tesla are already doing exactly that and it's not fun.
Surely one of the greatest thinkers in the history of the flat earth community. There has been nobody with such a developed brain since the Ancient Egyptians almost 500,000 years ago
You mean anyone with such a perfectly developed Dunning-Kruger effect type of brain. Santos is the king of Dunning-Kruger effect.
Uhm, excuse me he's not the king, he's the pharoah. @@fastone371
😂😂
Awesome job, Dan. And by the way... Thanks Bob. You Will always be remembered for proving earth's rotation 😊
No no no, the instrument he used was biased, paid actor by NASA 😂😂
Santos is so dense that he has an event horizon!
The density of interstellar gas clouds is several orders of magnitude closer to a vacuum than anything humans have achieved on Earth. Except for inside this man's head, of course.
Santos' production process:
1) Avoid learning at any cost
2) Wait for a vague idea to pop into the void between his ears
3) Put brain on pause, _immediately_ start recording
4) Pick random phrases that he doesn't understand from articles he hasn't read
5) Confidently redefine reality
Earn money from TH-cam views. That’s what he does next
@@jellslixcy6168 Oh no he doesn't. Not enough to buy even a packet of jelly beans and certainly not enough for a laser gyroscope. On that topic ... inSANeTOSser should get one of those, given its recent results.
You forgot "Use Google"
I think you described the labour party there. :D :D . I can't believe how stupid this Santos person is.
At 3) Which brain?
The "space" between Santos's ears is nearly a perfect vacuum. Devoid of all logic and rationale.
Also devoid of matter.
or is it indefinitely dense?
Sorry, @SciManDan, I really have to disagree with you! You CAN have a perfect vacuum! I own one!
I've had my Henry for about 15 years and it still picks up all the dirt on my carpet... that sounds pretty perfect to me!
(RIP Bob!)
When Santos first mentioned vacuum and turned to the computer, I thought he was going to pull up a Hoover.
I love near the end where he’s just, “you have to remember that everything that disagrees with what I want to to be true is CGI” 🙄
THe funniest part of this video was when Santos says "Orbiting our central sun" and I just thought to myself "I have never heard of that in my life." and then it cuts to Dan just saying "never heard of that" and I cracked up.
Flat Earthers don't REALLY believe what they say. They are basically harmless trolls who enjoy "debating" the outlandish theory. SUCKED IN! DUH! LOL
Lower secondary school physics. As a science teacher it was important to have these concepts clarified. Thanks Santos. Bob, although straying on the wrong side of science, always struck me as a nice guy and a good man. RIP Bob.
This dude has to be on one. I love watching SciManDan debunk idiots, but sometimes it's just awful watching these people...
Santos is a really horrible person. He has more than once wished death and assault on people for not joining in on his fantasy.
Yeah, I’ve gotten to the point that I can’t really watch these anymore. It’s like watching someone slowly kill their own brain cells
I was really skeptical at first, but then he broke out the reading glasses and I was convinced
I thought they were just there for show at first to make himself look smarter 😂
Love when he’s questioned by the cameraman, his brain goes into scrambling total bullshit mode
Man, this Santos guy is brilliant. He can count and speak words, sometimes even big words. And he can point at things. And he has a laptop too. What more could you want? This guy is a keeper ladies.
And not only does he count, but he also uses big numbers to go along with those big words. Don't forget that!
To Quote Qui-Gon Jinn: “The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get out of here.”
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It's not the ladies who shoud be nervous dude, lol. Talking to flat Earthers is like being in prison, don' t bend down, because they're always looking for Uranus, lmao.
"This guy is a keeper ladies." Oh please no, we don't need more of his kind! Haha
I love how Santos uses Mach (The ratio of the speed of a moving body to the speed of sound) to discuss the speed of objects travelling through the vacuum of space. It is an utterly meaningless concept. If you alter the composition of the medium that sound is radiating through, its speed (and thus its ratio - the Mach number) will also change. For example, sound will travel through nickel about one and a half times faster than it would through brass, and as the speed of sound traveling through the vacuum of space is zero, so too is its Mach number.
Also when the medium is traveling along with you Mach is relative to that medium. Otherwise nobody on the Concord would have been able to talk to anyone sitting in front of them ...
It’s because they can’t see air with their eyes. If they didn’t need to breathe it to stay alive they probably wouldn’t think it is real either.
I think Mach numbers technically only apply when the medium is a fluid, but, yeah...using a Mach number to describe the Earth's rotation and/or its velocity through the solar system / galaxy / universe is completely nonsensical.
I spent some time in a calibration lab checking the calibration of aircraft machmeters. We did it with the meter mounted in a vacuum chamber with an external tube supplying simulated pitot probe air pressure. We sucked air out of the vacuum chamber following a chart that gave standard air pressure at various heights. At each specified height we set the pitot pressure to various values to simulate speed through the air at that altitude. It sounds quite complicated but is pretty routine. The reason for doing this was that the speed of sound in the atmosphere changes (slows) with increasing altitude so a standard air speed indicator does not have mach numbers on its dial. If you look at published maximum speeds for aircraft that can exceed the speed of sound it usually includes the fact that the quoted mach numbers are at sea level. Go high enough in the atmosphere and walking pace would be greater than mach 1 (can't think how you would prove this for real though).
The mach numbers he's using aren't meant to actually make sense, it's just a "look at the big numbers!" tactic.
His followers don't know what "mach" means (come to think of it, maybe he doesn't, either).
As Einstein once said: 'Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity... and I'm not sure about the universe.'
Does Santos have kids? If so they must be so proud of their dad's genius. Some people seriously make you wonder how the human race has managed to survive this long. It's a good job ignorance and utter stupidity are not hereditary... that said, perhaps they are?
And of course he just had to make the classic CGI claim... But wait, we didn't have CGI when powerful telescopes were invented.
The NASA and CIA had the technology anyway in the 70's I guess 😂. Because yeah.. those are the only companies that do anything like this 🙈
That's just they want you to think. The Egyptians invented it 380,000 years ago.
@@CD_Character Dang it! That is way before us humans were even a thing, guess they have that covered as well then.
You don't even need a powerful telescope to see the nebulas that Santos claims are CGI. A 300 - 400 dollar quality amateur telescope is all you need. Yes they will not look as spectacular as images made with giant professional telescopes (for obvious reasons), but you can take great images yourself these days if you learn astrophotography. And if Santos doesnt trust digital cameras he can use regular analogue film cameras too avoid any possible NASA skullduggery.
I got to look through a powerful telescope last year, at a national park. We could see the milky way, craters on the moon, even the blurry glows of other galaxies. But they must have had some supercomputer hidden in the telescope, capable of rendering all that out in real time.
What a way to start my day. Lying in bed with a cup of tea and shaking my head in disbelief 😂
Good on you for respecting Bob, honestly. Despite the disagreements and all, he was a friend and family member to many. Outside of the flat earth stuff he probably was a fine guy.
RIP to him and prayers tk his family
Well said. Rest easy, Bob.
But you can't divorce him from the flat earth. He deliberately pushed this rubbish onto poorly educated and mentally unwell people and he did that for attention and/or money. That makes him a scumbag in my book, and his death doesn't change my opinion of him one iota.
That old man cannot realize that the entire mass of the solar system combined is not enough for fill a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of 1 % from the total space occupied by the solar system. If there is one molecule of gas in a container the volume of the molecule is negligible compared to that of the container and we can assume it’s a vacuum, apply the same concept for space
I like how the dude has all the birthmonth constellations memorized but can barely squeak out a number let alone a coherant thought.
He reads his horoscope every day.
As a math teacher….I think I know what Santos was like in school. “When will we ever need this?” “Why does any of this matter?” And so, they stop learning, get behind, and apparently, Santos never did quite catch up despite deciding to try to do “science”, but mostly doing it to be anti-authority, because he’s too lost to understand things and thinks he’s being lied to. Sad really, I mean…he wants to know, but everything he does is tainted by his need to reject the established science as mind control or something he feels is sinister, like….religion.🙄
You're saying quite essential things there mate.
I remember when I went to school I had this exact "conflict" with myself but even though I thought "well, gotta learn something" and while maturing I got the idea of not just "learning" stuff but getting behind it. I think there is a big difference and that 'abstract' difference is, what flat earthers or "sceptics" often criticize. They often talk about "textbook education" and play down education in general while claiming to "get behind things" yet unfortunately for them the "getting behind" part is substantially dependant on "learning" things in the first place.
I often told FAs that being principled isn't a bad thing but if they criticize the principles of others they should acknowledge their own and stop pressing double standards because that is exactly what they themselves don't want to be treated like.
Usually when I participate in a debate about things like flat earth I compare this to "making mistakes and learning from them", because it is the exact same process. You can't disprove the basics if you can't get behind it so it's quite necessary to at least understand the basic concept. With that said I don't categorize flat earthers in such a debate principally, I try to get behind their understanding of the world. To be on even grounds I ofc expect them to do the same, otherwise the dialogue is a big waste of time for both parties.
Most discussions I had regarding this topic were pretty civil while I always tried to get behind their intentions and - well - sometimes forced myself into the mind of someone with a different perception. Most of these people have abstract and irrational fears, some just feel some sort of disconnection, some have feelings of disgust towards science and many of those might have different reasons - wether they are personal, ideological or based on experience.
Why do I explain that?
I brought some very interesting perspectives into the lives of others just by being respectful, trying to share their scepticism and trying to even the grounds we're standing on when it comes to that discussion and ultimately I had some of those people acknowledging a globe earth as the only "naturally possible" shape of the earth. I do agree with them that there might be numerous things we as "mere mortals" are not 'obligated' to know but this shouldn't be the reason we stop learning and getting behind things - including the perspective of others - as absurd and clueless it might seem.
Nah, don't be sad.
What we see here is just self-imposed intellectual immaturity. No one forced him to be what he is nowadays.
This is no reason for sadness, instead it is well deserved!;)
except the reality is 20 years after leaving school, i have forgotten nearly everything i learned in math because i've never needed to use it, the math i learned in grade school gets used all the time, but all that high school stuff should of been optional, even if i did need to use some high school level math on a rare occasion, i whip out my phones calculator a device nearly every human has on them at all times
@@mikekilkelly2138but this is not true for everyone! School gives you the tools to do as much as possible in the future! Some works requires advanced math and others not, but it's better to have learnt and forgot, that never learned something!
I see your point. I never met a person like that, but Santos seems to fit my idea of such a person.
To be honest I really was hoping his explanation for vacuum would involve 'a device used to extract dirt from surfaces under suction'
Something like that? th-cam.com/video/EWQAvMUUJr4/w-d-xo.html
the hoover hypothesis?
That's just a fear conspiracy by Henry.
Was waiting for that
Me too! 😂
The thing that always gets me is why people think scientists would put this much effort into “tricking” the world into thinking the earth is round and all the other random conspiracy theories. Like “yes. We’re spending billions of dollars to trick you into thinking we live on a sphere that’s traveling through space.” What would there be to gain from that?
Their answer to that is probably something along the lines of "this just proves that whatever they are trying to hide/accomplish is just that huge"
My Grandson who is nearly 3 years old is now quite the chatterer, and although he does jumble words together and uses the wrong words on occasion, he still makes more sense than Santosser.
I mapped Bernard’s (edit: Barnard's) star movement over the years using my SC 8 inch scope when I first got into astronomy. Sketched the background stars to compare to Bernard’s star. I was thrilled to find I could map its movement. I still have an old sketchbook; if the diagrams are in there I’ll go out and map it again to see the difference.
Bernard’s? Barnard’s star maybe? You’re lucky you can see and find it easily. There’s far to much light pollution where I live for me to see or find it easily plus I only have smaller refractors or a mak.
So "Big Globe's" CGI has been fooling you for years.
Sarcasm here
@@murph8411 *face-palm* yes, you are correct. It's been couple of decades since I last went looking, as you can tell. sigh.
I live in a northern Canada (ontario) so even from my backyard I can find fainter stars. One night I even spotted the North American nebula (hope I got that name right) thru my binos. I didn't even realize what I was seeing at first, until it clicked in my brain. I can't see it now though. Since that first sighting many years ago there's been a lot of commercial development south of me (sports field, truck stops and fuel stations for the arterial highway, and a couple of years ago, a casino).
@@michaelburk9171 I've been brainwashed (light rinse needed in my case). :)
A friend of mine recently posted a GIF made up of images he's taken of Barnard's Star over the years - the amount of movement was startling.
I was driving on the m1 at 3am a while back. There was just me and a car around 100 yards infront of me, they stayed that distance for well over 20 minutes. Turns out they were going the same direction and speed as myself. The whole time I didn't even feel like I was moving (despite doing the speed limit). I can only imagine how confusing this would be to people like Santos.
Did you not notice the trees traveling in the opposite direction? 😂
@@oscargr_ That wasn't trees, it was solidified gas made by CGI.
Oh man, the knowledge of mankind at his fingertips (Google) but no idea how to use it ... flat earthers .😩
The way he describes his presumed evidence is similar to 9th grade students who didn't prepare for their presentation.
Of Mice & Men was a great book about mice and men...
He reminds me of Rand Paul, a member of Congress in the USA. Rand Paul tried to get approved as an eye doctor but could NOT pass the tests. So Rand Paul went and started his own "agency" to accredit people and claim them to be a "doctor" and passed himself.
Rest in peace Bob.
Even though your perspective of the world clashed with mine, you were still a human in my eyes.
Seriously, why do these people pretend to understand maths and science when they regularly demonstrate they understand neither? Why don't they submit papers for peer review if they are so confident in their workings out on a white board?!
Dunning-Kruger effect.
"It's not a vacuum because there's matter in there" is like saying "It's not an ocean because there's fish in there".
He's 60 years old, yet his mind is like he's 12 years old who believes he has come across a major revelation and needs to share this new found knowledge that he's sure no one has ever thought of.
That's not a very nice thing to say. After all, it's an insult to all the 12 year olds out there who are more intelligent than this guy.
@@forcewielder2000 bro you've answered to like every comment in a funny way lmao
Yeah bruh, my 9 year old has a much better grasp than he does, that's an insult to 12 year olds.
well ive never thought of this before though. i didnt wanna either
I completely understand that there are people in the world with this level of intelligence. I don't understand why they choose to broadcast this to the rest of the world, and I'm flabbergasted that they choose to call other people stupid when said people attempt to educate them.
I don't think these people are stupid in the sense of a cognitive impairment; maybe even the opposite - most of flat earthers seems to be quite intelligent. But they seem to be jealous of people who are in positions of intellectual authority that their desire to tear them down is much stronger than their desire for knowing the truth and that made educating them impossible.
When they engage in an argument I feel it's never really about trying to prove their theories or disproof the scientific theory - it's really about proving that the scientists are evil, that they're willingly and knowingly lying to you; or that they're controlled by a bigger force.
Dunning-Kruger effect
Stupid people aren’t smart enough to know they’re stupid lol.
Your sarcasm is hilariously misplaced. Flat Earthers don't REALLY believe what they say. They are basically harmless trolls who enjoy "debating" the outlandish theory. SUCKED IN! DUH! LOL
Because the internet gives them a voice they've never had.
Stupid people used to have to stand on street corners and
risk real physical harm to spout such nonsense.
Now-days there is no such threat. Yet.
Wow, I can't believe I'm so sad about Bob's paasing, not only did I really enjoy the recurring joke, it had tranacended the original joke, and had become its own thing... But more importantly, I'm sad that he died in either ignorance, or before he could stop lying to people if he wasn't really a flat Earther
He missed out that 88 is the MPH required for time travel in a DeLorean !
Yep, in Australian kindergartens as much as parents might like to think their kids are learning quantum physics. it's pretty much finger painting and nap time.
Nap time is really meditation and reflection on what they learned and the finger paints help them with their organic chemistry formulas since their hand dexterity has not developed yet.
Sounds like a typical day for Joe Biden.
Santos: "If we're going so fast, why don't we anything new?"
Off-screen camera guy: "What about all that new stuff we see all the time?"
Santos: "Oh, that's just CGI."
Well, that's basicly the whole Flat Earth Movements arguments, right? Get something asked, don't know an answer to it, other than the earth is round, and then they invent some BS argument to fit their theory.
And they can buy a good telescope and verify for themselves but won’t because Santos will lose his channel he needs to keep the lie going for his ego and dollars,what a sad life to have.
A flatard would use °C to tell you the temperature of the colour green....
But, but Mach 88 is another interesting number!
@@RideAcrossTheRiver Not as interesting as 88mph.
@@XtreeM_FaiL Is that the speed of pot?
@@RideAcrossTheRiver It's from the Back to the future.
Much more scientifically accurate than Santos' fantasies.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver no thats 420 stones per puff
I like when they say star positions havent changed throughout history. Then theyre told that star positions have in fact changed and they just hand wave it away, "You weren't there 2,000 years ago..."
Like why bring up the argument at all if your standard of proof is, "you literally have to be 5,000 years old and made the measurements yourself..."?
RIP Bob.
Santos is such a well taught man - basics of elementary school knowledge are just one googling away. Tell the Dinos that "comets in space are just CGI"
Watching Santos trying to put together words from a Google search is quite... interesting.
Remove glasses for optimum effect “A space devoid…..of matter”. Place glasses back on face.
RIP Bob, unlike many of your followers you attempted to walk the walk and gave us many a smile along the way. Much respect for Dan for memorialising you this way. We have our memories of the clip and you'll never leave us but this way we can respect the you as a man who shared our time on earth and was willing to experiment to prove his ideas.
Unfortunately, Bob Knodel was happy to blatantly lie.
@grahvis It was good entertainment tho...
At the very least, he is one of the flat earth classics.
Full Respect to you Dan for retiring the 15phd, I never knew he had passed away, out with all the flat earth stuff may he may rest in peace, Thanks Bob 🙏🏻💜
internet= lots of informations. this guy= not the mental capacity to cope with it!! History of the modern world....
internet = endless amount of knowledge. This guy = can't even understand 5th grade physics book.
In a way, I agree. Does the availability of information and having all this complexity at the tip of your fingers simply overwhelm some people, so they start looking for simpler truths that they can understand and reject all that knowledge that already exists?
An even harder challenge would be to provide evidence that this man has a brain
Oh, he has a brain…
Sadly, most of it is still in Australia…
Proof of a vacuum right there between his ears!
C'mon guys, he's just a grifter.
Let's keep it scientific. He is breathing and moving so he has a brain. Now, the sane functioning of that brain is another subject.
Yep, send him off to see the Wizard. The most wonderful wizard there ever was…
Nice bit of respect for those who have passed Dan, there's not enough of that today, RIP and for 1 last time, thanks Bob
So all the pictures I take of nebulae are actually NASA CGI ? When do they place those pictures in my camera?
How can someone not take this guy seriously? I mean, look at all the sophisticated equipment in his lab.
Foil hat on the table 😂
Ah, the con, guru Poe is back. He doesn’t believe any of this, it’s just a money spinner.
Absolutely. Flerf TH-camr = grifter.
The fact he gets relativity wrong and doesn't understand it's not just the earth that moves.... WOW
It's like he's on a moving train wondering why he's not catching up to the car in front or pulling away from the car behind
Wow! That photo of the Milky Way with the little yellow circle?
INSANE!!!
I honestly feel so bad for this man. Think about his age, his life, the way his mind works. He has achieved nothing. He has actively gone backwards intellectually and brought others with him. That is his life's greatest achievement. He will pass on soon and have given less than nothing back to society and his legacy will be one of failure and humiliation on the internet. That's genuinely sad to me.
actually he has given a valuable gift to society... ever hear of the phrase " dont be an asshole or dont be an idiot"? he has contributed to the world.... "Dont be a Santos"
He was a musician. His work is here and there in the web.
I often think that too, especially for people who have gone far down the hole. What it must be like to live in a world where you think that stuff is real. What a terrible and wasted life.
We can tell our kids "don't be like that guy".
People like Santos is why the world is turning to crap. Ignorance is excusable because not everyone knows everything but stupidity allows a person to be unaware of their ignorance and think they know everything. It hurts my head to think of the amount of hours Santos spent working out his bonehead formulas of Mach and "central star of the universe?" and actually managed to convince at least one other person (his cameraman) that his hypotheses, and I say that in the loosest of terms, is correct and worthy of spreading to the masses. To me this is the perfect guy to bring as your guest to a Dinner for Schmucks. You would be guaranteed to win once you got him to give his presentation, lol.
Le Diner de Cons! An amazing movie, but I don't think I'd become friends with this guy.
The world isn't turning to crap, social media and the Internet in general (where people spew mis- and dis-information), is why it seems that way. It's honestly no better or worse than it ever was. People like this aren't common at all, most at least have a modicum of common sense.
He's gotta be working hard to remain that ignorant
Nothing new here. Back in 1978 my sixth grade teacher couldn't understand why a student's plane had flown south of Alaska when flying from Seoul to Seattle. She pointed to her big Mercator projection map of the world hanging over the blackboard which showed it should have flown farther south. I went up and drew a straight line between the two cities on a globe for her but dismissed this and went back to her big map saying they were "flying with the jet stream". That's when I learned that some people will never understand these things.
@@celticlass8573 I used to think that way as well, but too few of us are standing on the sideline thinking these idiots will just go away if we ignore them.
If you got to a political rally these days you see more and more "intelligent people" being just as irrational about topics they either over-exaggerate or have no understanding of and this mob mentality of ignorance persists.
This used to be just a few kooks like Santos standing in a group on a corner being shunned by the masses. Now it is a heavy percentage of the main body politic, not the majority but enough that they can't be ignored and their representatives have to pander to them, or in some case are even elected from those same irrational groups. This is a huge issue in the USA right now.
Why is he adding velocities that dont have the same tangent?
The Earth has always been spinning around a pink unicorn. The particles and stars around us are simply dust and glitter flossing from its long silky tale.
His video ended with a perfect demonstration of the danger of letting flat Earth theory stand untested. Denying existencial threats like comets and asteroids is a thing that could put society at risk (after all, even with technology we have now we could deflect one if we had enough advance warning) but imagine if the same was said for global warming, environmental pollution, disease, and other threats we know about because of science but denied by conspiracy theorists
The thing is: even the most mundane claim can have the same effect, if it is based on science denial and therefore creates a precedent for people absorbing it. From that point it gets increasingly easy to deny the other facts. Something which one could very well observe when conservatives worldwide used this to politicize wearing masks and vaccinations at the direct cost of human life and life quality. In fact with half the US electorate gladly believing their lies and christofascists being in power in key states, the levee might already have broken without any means to returning to rationality soon.
This is what terrifies me exactly. Some of these folks(probably not many)are in leadership roles. That’s very concerning.
Even the idea of flat earth is but one of many conspiracy distractions that the extreme right use on a regular basis and no doubt even more people looking into it now thanks to that Guns Babies Jesus congress lady. Yeah those 3 vague words are what she ran on and won. Now I wish a meteor would hit us thanks to people like her.
Believing in manmade Global warming is the same thing as believing in flat earth. Zero evidence all stupidity
We already experienced this with anti vaxxers
I straight laughed out loud at "The speed of sound in space is 0."
ngl, bro looks like australian john malkovich from wish. bro looks like he goes exclusively to full moon parties and helps people get spiritual experiences by selling them real shitty acid and tainted hashish.
Santos is the guy that just didn't want to study for the test and tried to wing it
There are no new stars.
- What about the new stars being discovered in nebulae?
CGI!!!!
@@MonkeyJedi99 who thinks there's a CGI computer inside every telescope?