@@thefoxamongwolves9843 Actually you can see the planets much like in photos from NASA if you view them thru a telescope. FE idiots can't explain how that's possible.
@@nightmareTomek Same with the science. They choose just what's convenient. Visual acuity limit is 60 arcseconds? Perfect! Better not dwelve deeper though (Raileigh Criterion, Point Spread Function, MTF, etc.), or simply realize the limit isn't hard one and one can see e.g. a dark hair on light background (or a white pixel on a black screen) from pretty far away - it just gradually blurs with the distance.
Hereby I grant you the useage of this string of words I totally did not forget about at all, because I typed it a month ago (which is about 3 years in COVID-time)
It's not real, but you can see it because NASA just projects the light onto the dome of the firmament, and that spot is what everyone is seeing. I tell you, flat Earthers try so hard to "prove" what they know is right, that they prove themselves wrong 98 times out of 100. The other 2 times is reserved for the time they accidently get something close to right.
It's CG that is caused by the heavy metals in jabs. They absorb 5g radiation and project a CG image in your head. That's why "they" installed 5g everywhere.
And flerfs will sometimes say it's a hologram 😂 there nutters that that when in school,people who can't pay attention to learning reality are called window lickers because that's flerf school just keep looking out that classroom window with toilet paper in both ears 😂you no keep the learning of reality down to brainless zero
I would say his legacy is the moment in the show where he goes "..if we would reveal what we know right now, it would be bad for us very bad" or something along those lines. He is showing us all right there that he is manipulating the results and lying about them. He can't be trusted not one bit, of course all the flerfers just go na a he didn't say that etc crap.
@@takoja507 Yeah exactly. That's the bit that does it for me. It's one thing to prove yourself wrong (embarrassing as it may be) but to be caught out trying to cover it up is an absolute eye opener that this bloke is in it just for the money by living off the gullible.
20:05 "Why do they had to have certain times of day for different regions to see it?". Wait, did he just debunk the flatness of the earth on a flat earth convention? 🤯
It was even bettter when he continued that you dont need any schedule because you cant see it fro the entire USA at the same time. Thats an absolute Smerican shovinism. Didn't he notice that there are other countries?
yes he did and it was all accidental! now that's a TRUE PROFESSOR! he didn't even try and he accidentally figured out the truth, that's some next level skills.
This very much reminds me of someone I used to know who, when I at one point mentioned that a small percentage of tv static is from background microwave radiation from the Big Bang, laughed and said "I don't believe that." When I pressed her on it, she basically said she couldn't understand how that could be, so she refused to believe it at all.
After watching this video, I aced my last physics exam. I didn't understand any of the questions, so I just wrote "I don't understand, so these questions aren't real." Got 100%. Thanks. Bob.
best arguement ever "i don't understand this, therefore it can't be real"... oh wait, i dont understand other people, this must mean they are not real! .. that's how psychopaths think
@@fefferryerr1818 that's the sad truth ... not just doctors, but if someone doesn't understand your problem, they just call you names and say you faking it.
I completely agree to this because I was once arguing with a flat earth idiot and it made me lost some brain cells just trying to explain what gravity even is when he saw me making a presentation about gravity and the effects of it
I love when he tells the Flerfs, “You don’t have to do any math.” As though they’re all sitting there ready to do some hyper-advanced calculus. It’s like telling a flock of chickens that they won’t be required to sequence a genome before scratching at the ground and pooping.
"The ISS is not a solid object" XD "We can see ISS not directly, but by the light reflected from it." Last time I checked, that's true for every object, not just ISS. That's how sight works.
My grandpa taught me so much about this world. He was not a professor or something, but he knew why seasons happen, how plants grow, the tides, the basic circle of life.... the idea that Bob is someones grandpa is so sad. Imagine you have an old person in your life who is spitting out so much shit. This is just sad...
I think Bob absolutely knows he is peddling BS.. if he was just confused about the 15deg of drift per hour he wouldn't have said that this info must not get out.
@@paulhope3401 Lookup "motivated reasoning" - he'll either ignore contradictory evidence or try to explain it way (which he has, shown in another of Dan's videos I think?). It's like creationists (which I'm assuming Bob is!) saying "where's the proof?", and upon being shown fossils immediately decry them as being falsified. He said that, not because he wanted to hide the "truth", but because he genuinely WANTS to believe otherwise, and so wants an opportunity to disprove his own evidence. He's not seeing it as lying.
@@tornagawn Having no clue about anything is what makes him who he is!! The entire time, he never addressed a simple question, if that object isn't the ISS, what the heck is it??? Yet again, he has no clue...
Gotta love how, while showing the video of the people lined up with the mirrors, you could see the white houses in the background perfectly at all angles as the camera view moved. And of course, the houses are 3D objects being illuminated by the sun just like the ISS.
Ah yes. I think that’s what he gets wrong. He hears ”reflected light” and immediatly thinks ”mirror”. But I don’t know how he would explain that he can see an apple in front of him.
"It takes a very specific angle for something to flash light directly at you." Except... I can see everything object all around me - the result of those objects reflecting light directly at me - without them being at a very specific angle. I can see cars passing by, I can see planes flying overhead, and I can see you wobbling on that stage. Amazing!
@@primary_magic1227 technically, youre correct, but our perception of it would be completely lost. There would be no contours and no contrast on its surface providing us with context. It would be perceived as a hole in existence.
He actually debunked flat earth when he said “well then how come everyone can’t see it at the same time anywhere!” Well brainiac... if the earth was flat they probably could. But because it’s a sphere that’s impossible.
@Shadow Realm Gaming the reason he’s questioning why can’t everyone see it at same time because he assumes earth is flat and that everyone should see it at same time, just a thought…
You know how you can tell someone knows they are lying? When they turn off the comments and block the likes and dislikes.. Guess who knows they are lying?
And they only convert a small portion of the spectrum into electricity. They can reflect (or absorb as heat) a large portion of the spectrum and work fine.
Even the best solar panels are only right run like 20% efficent so all the rest of the energy needs to go somewhere, ya some is absorbed as heat but not all of it...
I pretty much bursted in laughter when he said that... I was like, "When do you guys ever do the math anyway? You not doing the math is the very reason why you people are flattards to begin with!".
The only thing that flerfers know less about than math are physics, astronomy, and geography. I have never encountered one, going back at least five years, who knew anything at all about those subjects.
I'm late to the party, sorry. I know flat earthers aren't great with math, but at 3:10, he puts up " some 'facts' about the ISS". First dot point; Pressurised module length: 167.3 feet (73 metres) Third dot point; Solar array length: 239.4 feet (73 metres) I didn't bother looking further. If they can't get simple conversions correct, then how do they expect anybody to take them seriously? Love your channel, Dan. Keep it up, mate.
It becomes even more hilarious when you realize that he is using the exact same argument as we do when we ask flat earthers why we can't always see the sun. Of course, we can explain it while they... can't.
Little they know the Bible claims Earth is a Globe from the beginning to the end. (Example: Isaiah 40:21-22) They quote 90 verses they don't comprehend and say other lie, which is not included in the Bible as it explains the expansion of the Universe. Just as they do with the information on Apollo 11 on the ISS and who knows what lies are they planning if Perseverance and Ingenuity find life on Mars.
Sound was muted by TH-cam because the original video contains a piano cover of Rocketman. Don't know if it's a false flag or not, but I hope SciManDan sees it and replaces the music with something else.
They seem to have removed the audio across the entire section indiscriminately without consideration for the fact that SciManDan actually broke in twice to make comments.
Bob expects a continuous video of the ISS construction from start to finish. He doesn't seem to realize, or he ignores, that basic construction was from 1998 to 2011, but that it is still being added to gradually.
I nearly cried when he asked why they had different times for people living in different places to see the ISS. Bob, it's because of THAT reason and it's right there in front of your eyes AGAIN.
He literally spoke for ages there without saying anything. Impressive. Also, he physically proved the rotation himself ... but still disregarded it? U can't talk to a mind like that.
He is a con artist. This guy makes a lot of money with all this bullshit. Majority of these flat earthers that go to conventions as speakers, make appearances and do videos know what they are saying is bullshit. They know what they are doing and that con gullible people of their money. Bob knows the earth isn't flat. Bob also knows that if he keeps up this farce, that he will make a lot more money.
@@FaintAcrobat "Bob knows the earth isn't flat. Bob also knows that if he keeps up this farce, that he will make a lot more money."-- So you are saying flat earth is like religion then, where the most vocal proponents are the most dishonest.
@@fomori2 From watching so many debunking videos of Flat Earth and Creationism lately, there are startling parallels in the way that their proponents all behave and speak. While it's true that a small minority genuinely believe it due to a lack of understanding (Flat Earth Dave is a great example), I have zero doubt that many, many prominent "leaders" within these two forms of cult know exactly what they're doing; i.e, lying to their followers in order to make money. Almost makes me want to start doing it.
I wouldn't call it “ages”; there is just a piece around 13:02 and another one around 13:37 (both of which are a part of the same fragment where the sound seems to have disappeared, but he didn't speak that entire time)
@@tompiscitelli2548 you really dont understand that bob has OBSERVED the rotation of the earth? A 15° per hour dirft.... If your so over confident of yourself Then do dan's 5000 dollar challenge And make sure you follow all of the requirements
@@tompiscitelli2548 It needs to be common knowledge to be common sense. The idea of a flat Earth is far from common sense. Also, most teachers around the globe aren't backed by Nasa and they constantly prove the world is round with their own experiments on a daily basis.
The amount of time a US American spends contemplating the existence of countries other than their own is measured in exoseconds (=3.15 femtoyears) with usual values in the 1-2 million exoseconds range which is less time than it takes to blink.
I remember observing ISS through my telescope back when it was still being constructed and seeing the shape change every time the shuttle would come up and visit the space station. Guess I just hallucinated that? And yes, in my videos of the space station you can very clearly tell that the solar arrays do not reflect nearly as much light as the radiators and habitat sections do. I love how Bob conveniently left that out of the discussion.
And yes, it changes angular size and brightness as it rises and reaches the meridian. I have to use a slower exposure when it's just rising than when it's high overhead. And you can see it getting larger in angular size as it approaches the meridian. th-cam.com/video/kgaBWhfFAvc/w-d-xo.html
Nooo! You didn't see that! What actually happened is that the government, along with fluoride and chemicals that turn our frogs gay, they put in mind-&-memory-altering chemicals in your tap water along with tiny microchips (courtesy of Bill Gates, George Soros and the Bloodlines™️) that imbed themselves right onto your brain and stay latched on there for the remainder of your life. And these microchips, every time you think about the ISS or the Earth's shape or vaccines or the trillions of things that the government is lying to us about, the microchips, they delete what you actually saw when you were looking up through a telescope, which is OBVIOUSLY NOTHING! 😡.. they change your memory so that you recall seeing the ludicrous "International Space (really? Space is FAKE) Station" and that way, you become a globalist and recite the script that the government programmed into the microchips. Your brain is literally washed by tap water that's laced with fluoride, mind altering and memory wiping chemicals and programmed microchips. You're literally brainwashed and programmed! So you see?? You have to rely on folks like us, who know the truth to protect you, de-program you and rinse off your dirty little brains. The Earth is flat. There is a glass-polymer dome above it. There is a giant turtle (or tortoise- we're not sure yet, out probes have yet to reach him/her) that's carrying our flat earth. ISS is fake. The Bloodlines have purchased and own you and your memories and the world's governments are just tiny little puppets controlled by said Bloodlines. Don't worry, you're safe with us. 🌏🚫🙅♂️👎📀🕺🤯🧠🙆♂️📡🔭
"Guess I just hallucinated that?" - More likely you just pulled those lies right out of your butt. And "astronomy" is a pseudoscience, which must be *why* you feel compelled to make up & propagate fairytales to others in order to 'validate' your anti-scientific and totally unprovable Luciferian faith-based beliefs.
@@joeshmoe7967 And that's exactly what @Bob Knodel doesn't get... As I've mentioned to them before, babbling about the sun moves out of "our perspective line of sight" and hence why we "couldn't see it anymore..." on their flat erff model of sunset... 🙄
@Tony Wilson I tweeted it out, Tony! @GlobeBusters won't like that... Posted to @Twitter : Drat, almost forgot me friend, John. @GodlessEngineer Comments TURNED OFF, what's the matter @GlobeBusters? Lose your Balls? 😁 Cc: @SciManDan @CatzConspiracy @ItsMrSensible @creakyblinder @mctoon @IlyaMoon @GloberMom @FTFE @FatherSkeptic 😂
18:00 the moon is also pretty bright and thats just a rock with dust on it, so clearly there is not much needed for an object to be brightly lit up like the ISS
Comments turned off on the original globebusters channel video. The TH-cam equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "La, la, la I can't hear you."
Welcome to idiocracy, AKA, a flat earth gathering. "We don't need answers or a feasible model, we just need to try and disprove what's already been proven! Use actual data? Nooo that's what THEY use, which always leads you to the same wrong answers. They're clearly wrong, because I don't understand it." Their life's philosophy is "I don't understand it therefore it doesn't exist." beyond that, they don't have the required IQ to question further.
@@erolsayan8600 you missed that that was an example of what it wasnt, but indeed, I also wonder. Does he really think NASA keeps an airplane or something flying about just to screw with people?
I often feel there are 2 groups of flat earthers: those who honestly believe it and those who see business opportunities taking advantage of the other flat earthers.
He knows the earth s a sphere and the ISS is real. He is a flat earth troll literally “ bridge, coins and all”. He is scamming easily suggestible people for their money and adoration. He needed a new video and making sense was not a prerequisite.
@@Balbadeno what the fuck are you talking about? What "magic CGI line in the sky"? And further more, you need to start going higher than 10.7 km (35,000 ft) straight up before the earth's curve becomes apparent ... because ... SCIENCE! So, to conclude, around 40,000 ft, or greater, the curve of the earth should start to become more and more visible.
@@AstrosElectronicsLab that's my bad I thought the joke was obvious! I'm not a flurf as I'm a grown up! What I was trying to say Is flatearthers always say it's flat & provide pictures claiming it is but as soon as go high enough as u pointed out when the curve is easy to see then the flurf community claim every picture is fake or cgi, hence the magic cgi line in the sky! Hope that makes more sense 🌍🤠
"It doesn't change angular size!" says the man that says it's 50 arc seconds when directly above us, but our visual acuity can only go down to 60 arc seconds. Someone needs to look up the definition of 'visual acuity'. You can still see it, you just can't discern anything other than a dot because it's too small!
And there are these fabulous devices for improving visual acuity called telescopes. You can't see Saturn's rings with the naked eye, yet with a telescope...
He mentioned this hand held mirror experiment case, which is one of examples that disprove him immidiatelly. He should ask himself how is possible to see tiny mirror shine from several 10th of kilometers when actual mirror angular size is much smaller than 60 arcseconds.
Exactly. The misunderstanding of the topic is quite common. On photography forums I came across (quite a few times) people thinking there is no detail below the 'diffraction limit'. Although Bob is on quite a different level as we're talking here just 1 bright spot on a dark background... plus Bob is an aspiring engineer :D
Thank you, I feel offended being called an ''opponent'' or ''globe -Earther'' as there was still a debatable theory about the shape of our planet. So their idea to separate people in ''flat Earthers'' or ''globe-Earthers'' debate teams (like we used to do in first grade, yet the title of the team belongs to kindergarten) is the epitome of ignorance.
What was it Einstein said? "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." He must've talked with a flat earther when making that qoute.
I don't think Bob is used to mirrors that reflect light, his shirt is mighty wrinkled so he obviously didn't look at a reflection before going to his conference.
I was waiting for him to claim there is no ISS, there's some guy with a powerful cannon on the edge of the world shooting disco balls to the other side of the world so people *just think* it's a space station.
So, they cannot believe the ISS is moving 5 miles per second, but it's totally fine that "a mirror" can go that fast. Also, if space is fake, what makes it move that fast? They are so easily to make fun of
"You can't see the ISS because its apparent size is too small" *shows video of people in Britain using hand mirrors to reflect light which can be seen from a helicopter far away* Guess the apparent size of those mirrors was just enormous somehow.
Bob the idiot is confusing the limit of angular resolution of the eye which is controlled by the spacing distance between the cones at the fovea and tells you at what the angle between two separate objects (say lines or any detail really) is required for your visual system to be able to identify them as separate objects rather than appearing as a blurred single object. But with a bright enough light source there is no restriction to angular size of the source for it to be seen as a near point source, all that happens is there is a minimum apparant size of source perceived by you can not get finer due to the area of your visual field mapped by one cone, so a star very far away whose light hits just one cone appears as a near point source and one the same size twice as far away will appear as the same size until magnified because its light also hit just one cone. The minimum required is 1 cone to be activated possibly by as few as 3 photons (in perfect conditions) and you can perceive a light. Obviously this means the angular subtense of the source can be tiny. Bob fails at physics.
I also checked the decoder details. The TH-cam decoder does not show a drop in its audio component. So most likely something either went wrong with mastering (a missing track) or in a transcoder somewhere (either on dan’s side or in the Yt transcode cluster...)
Bob was a commercial pilot. You do know about his NASA connection don't you? NASA was recruiting him, but little did they know he was in turn investigating them. They withdrew his application into the space flight program after they determined he wasn't buying into their lies.
becky doesit OMG! Really? I didn’t know that. Well this totally changes everything. You would think that he would lead with this information every time. So Bob was going to be hired by NASA as an engineer or pilot? Or both? When was this? I can’t seem to find any info about this fact. I’m very surprised this isn’t part of his mission statement. If only he had been a little more sneaky, maybe then Bob could have snuck out the secret documents from NASA that prove the earth is flat and we could all be rested and assured by the truth. How did they catch onto his scheme? I still can’t believe he doesn’t mention this every time he talks about flat earth. It also makes you wonder why not a single NASA employee or past employee has ever stepped up and blew that whistle. I mean surely one of the many thousands of NASA employees must have a heart and wants the truth to be told. Not even a single deathbed confession. Nothing. Maybe that why they didn’t hire Bob. He was too truthful. They probably only hire liars who like to keep secrets. That’s gotta be it. Where can I read about Bob’s close call with NASA?
Hi Dan, not sure how I missed this one before. This Bob is an extraordinary character - just a couple of points to make: 1. Of course you can see the ISS from all over the USA at the same time, but it will have different rising and setting times etc. depending on where in the U.S.A. you are. 2. I look at the live feed from the ISS from time to time. When it's over the U.K. and the weather is clear, the ISS shows me bits of the U.K. and if I look out of the window I see blue sky. If the weather is cloudy, the ISS shows me clouds and I can look out of the window and also see clouds. Hard to fake! Keep up the good work, Chris
IF you could see the ISS all the time from everywhere it would be a strong case for flat, but you can't. The fact that you CAN'T see the ISS over the whole USA at once proves the Earth is round.
I love how he explains away the reflected light argument by saying that we can only see an object if the light is reflected from it at a very specific angle. He says this whilst stood in an auditorium with people to his left and people to his right, all of whom are able to see him simultaneously. How does he think that works? Try this experiment, Bob. Stand in front of your car and look at it - can you see it, Bob? Now walk around it and look at it from behind, can you still see it, Bob? How can that possibly work?
Well, obviously he thinks that's possible because there are more lamps there than suns to light up the ISS. He can prove it by showing all the hotspots from all the separate lamps on his shiny skull and bling clothing.
"he explains away the reflected light argument by saying that we can only see an object if the light is reflected from it at a very specific angle." Well the statement is actually right. To see the ISS from the ground the observer must be looking a the ISS when the solar arrays are at a specific angle with respect to the observer on the ground and the sun. (This is called the EPS angle of earth-probe-sun angle) The online tracking software partially accounts for this in telling us viewing opportunities There are many time the ISS flies over head and we CANNOT see it with the naked eye because it appears dark. That is when the ISS is in "eclipse" or when the arrays are oriented such that there is very little reflection back at the ground. You used to be able to catch the "Iridium Flares" of spacecraft (when they were still up there) that were very specific "flashes" of light when the EPS angle was perfect for your particular location. The iridium sats are no longer up there so now the fad is spotting SpaceX's Starlink satellites.
As he has a broken calculator.. it just reads 73 all the time 2+2 = 73 That’s his next presentation And he has a calculator to prove it live on stage !😁
The greatest achievement we've made as a species isn't building the ISS and continuing to build on it, it's teaching flat earthers how to tie their shoes without choking on the shoelace.
3:30 Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but his measurement for the pressurized module length is wrong. If it was 167.3 feet, it should be 50.99 meters, not 73m.
@@True_Christian Must be hell inside your head, when your religious dogma requires you to deny reality. But there is still time to resolve it. How about you put your ISS claim to the test-you know, like open and reasonable people do. Call up someone in your area who has a telescope and arrange a live viewing. But I bet you will deny even looking for the evidence, since deep down you know, you wouldn’t like what you would find.
I've tried for a long time to spot ISS in the sky but in France the weather won't allow me to do so. Two years ago I was in Mauritius, checked its position and I've been able to see it goes right above me in a dark sky, naked eyes. It was clear and one of the most beautiful moment in my life.
Dan, this video appears to lose audio at around 12:23-ish, when the video of the ISS moving comes on. Which means we're missing at least one of the zingers you throw at Bob when you cut into the footage. :(
@11:26 Bob says, "... there are certain websites that claim you can see it at all hours of the night, which is frankly impossible, but I haven't, you know, checked the veracity on that." Anyone else sensing a theme here?
When he started to criticize the engineering design of the ISS that is when I know mr. Bob the builder should consult a psychologist. The Dunning-Kruger in him really is shining through his egomaniac personality.
Normal person to flerf: "would you like to see my dog?" Flerf: "that's not a dog" Normal person: "yes it is" Flerf: "no its not" Normal person: "what is it then?" Flerf: "I don't know but its not a dog" Normal person calls a vet to verify its a dog, who does so. Flerf: "the vet is a bloody paid shill" Normal person: *facepalm*
Yep, nice illustration. Same than claiming sky is red because all the guys on youtube say that, and it must be true because very bad people from claim that it is blue… So long, just watching outside from the window is too complicated.
@@albertjackinson We'll speak again when the earth becomes a barren wasteland void of life as we're turning it into right now. If not through sheer idiocy, we'll bring about our own extinction through greed.
@@albertjackinson Uh huh, you realize that half the planet's species went extinct since the 1970s? And, we've "lost" half the planet's forests in the last century? Optimistically, we've 30 or so years left before the point of no return, but don't worry, we'll be consumed in the flames of war before we even reach that point. "Green society"! All the while, there are island-sized mountains of plastic garbage merrily floating in the world's oceans. And, who's going to bring about the green revolution anyway? The generation that places more importance on gender identity, social justice, and TickTock clout than the fucking planet? Yeah, excuse me if I don't hold my breath.
I actually kinda want to see the ISS now, So I looked it up. All the times it will be visible in the near future are between 3:30 and 5:30 in the morning. I don't want to see it that badly.
Not really it doesn't fulfill the checkpoints of the BITE model also I'm not sure if you're religious but literally every religion that says there's a magical invisible man in the sky would be a cult with your logic. They're just dumb. Not really a cult
They hold false beliefs, they force the Bible fit their beliefs and swear by some apocryphal texts, and they are base their lives around all of that by guarding their beliefs in hubris and ignorance...laughing at the truth whenever it is shown to them. It has leaders and blind followers. Sounds like a cult in the process of formation...still lots of disorganization. Some believe in serpent seed doctrine, that landmarks like devils tower is a tree stump, and other even crazier things.
The second he said "solar panels are designed to collect light" I was hoping he wasn't going to be brain-dead enough to say "if they collect light, why can we see them". The fact that the bar is this low worries me.
I dropped my jaw when Dan said "retired engineer". Are you for real telling me that this flat earther was an engineer? This is a bit like when they find out a prosecuter is corrupt and all the people they jailed are set free. Someone needs to go over all the bridges he designed, make sure they're good enough.
I genuinely think most of the 'flearthers' on the social media and TH-cam don't believe in a flat Earth. They just take the money / clicks of the gullible. More money in standing up and spouting nonsense than in being an engineer or street sweeper or store worker.....
18:20 The brightness of the ISS does change as it flies overhead. I have seen the reflection dim as it goes to the horizon. Bob must be blind or ignorant in many ways not to know this.
If he wanted to sound more credible, he should have *measured* the apparent size and brightness of this object that he says we can't see in the first place... Never mind.
Oh Aaron, you left out option 3: Bob just lied... I know he looks like a nice guy, it doesn't stop him simply lying for Flattardia (superchat ker-ching). With the old 15 degree BS I used to think of him as an amiable buffoon but his totally made up and dangerous spouting concerning the current pandemic changed my mind, he is a lying idiot with an agenda.
@@bcbc8649 I agree, we should fully commit to the metric system. The thing is we already use that system where it mostly matters: in the science field. So, sadly, I doubt the rest of the American society is going to switch over anytime soon. It's like trying to change American culture at this point haha.
Yeah but note that he started his farce with the argument that the ISS was so small that you can’t see it from that distance so you shouldn’t be able to see reflected light from it, then he shows you hundreds of flashes from mirrors on a beach in broad daylight from flat hand mirrors that you can’t see. Priceless!.
At 3:35 he states that both the Pressurised Module Length of the ISS and the Solar Array Length are 73 meters, but equates this length to 167 feet and 239 feet respectively! He can't even get the basic maths right!
17:00 he says as he's getting illuminated by stage lights.... I don't know, Bob. How is everyone in that room able to see you? How are you well lit for everyone in the room?
He went the "no videos" route. Wow. Blatant shameless lying. Kevin Gustafson has a great series showing the history of the ISS, with film or reconstructions in KSP of all the flights, all the construction steps, the works,
There are 6 planets visible to the naked eye: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. Only one of them, Venus can appear bigger than 1 arc second and only when we are closest to it. So tell me Bob, why can we see the other 5? Why does Venus not just disappear when it falls below 1 arc second?
What happened to the audio from 12:20-13:39, during the video of the ISS passing overhead? I could understand THAT being silent, but I don't hear anything even when Dan is on screen and his mouth is moving.
@ Have you never seen his Orphan Red video? She believes pictures taken by satellites are fake because (I'm paraphrasing here) there is no one to observe the photos when they're taken, therefore what we receive on earth is actually just a bunch of jumbled mess and NASA just makes up photos based on the supposedly jumbled mess they receive. It's convoluted, confusing and absolutely RIDICULOUS.
@@Fatman221 I once put together the electronics to download and decode images from early weather satellites. This was back in the 70's, when the signals were frequency modulated analog. I have to admit, for the first couple of weeks I would have believed her description to be correct! It was my first experience with trying to use a phase locked loop.
Wow. What he said actually began to make some sense. It's helping me to understand where they're coming from. "They'll show you animations." To them, everything looks like cartoons. No wonder.
Love it when flerfs come out with the phrase: "There is not one photo or video of {x}" - where x is something that has photos and videos of it online. This is along with the lines of "{x} cannot explain {y}", which translates as "I do not [want to] understand {y}".
Flat earthers: "Seeing is believing, own observation."
Also flat earthers: "Yes you can see the ISS, but it can't be real."
Same with the planets. Can see them as spherical balls in the sky but no, that's fake and they're actually "luminaries"
@@thefoxamongwolves9843 Actually you can see the planets much like in photos from NASA if you view them thru a telescope. FE idiots can't explain how that's possible.
@@vimalramachandran I know, I've done it myself. But Can't trust my eyes anymore! It's holograms or something
I suggest calling them "flat earth hypocrites", they're doing it all the time. You should only believe your observation if it's convenient for THEM.
@@nightmareTomek Same with the science. They choose just what's convenient. Visual acuity limit is 60 arcseconds? Perfect! Better not dwelve deeper though (Raileigh Criterion, Point Spread Function, MTF, etc.), or simply realize the limit isn't hard one and one can see e.g. a dark hair on light background (or a white pixel on a black screen) from pretty far away - it just gradually blurs with the distance.
Flat-Earthers' logic: "If the number's too high, it's impossible".
Typical of them - Argument from incredulity
There are too many cells in the Human body (4 Trillion, I think?), therefore the entire human body doesn’t exist, we are computers
*"incomprehensive"*
I wonder what they think about modern computer technology
Love your work
Wait. He admitted that you can see the ISS?! And then continues to say it’s not real?! This is some professional level of denialism right there
😄 I like that... "professional level of denialism". Permission to use it, please?
Hereby I grant you the useage of this string of words I totally did not forget about at all, because I typed it a month ago (which is about 3 years in COVID-time)
It's not real, but you can see it because NASA just projects the light onto the dome of the firmament, and that spot is what everyone is seeing.
I tell you, flat Earthers try so hard to "prove" what they know is right, that they prove themselves wrong 98 times out of 100.
The other 2 times is reserved for the time they accidently get something close to right.
“A month ago (which is 3 years ago in Covid time)”
Me almost to 2023:
He's trying to say nasa made a fake iss for people on earth to see
As Dan states "If it's not the ISS, then what is it?" I'd love to hear an answer to that.
Well clearly it's a weather ballon with an ISS shaped carldboard cutout placed here by the tricksters of NASA. Duh.
It's CG that is caused by the heavy metals in jabs. They absorb 5g radiation and project a CG image in your head. That's why "they" installed 5g everywhere.
NASA must have snuck a toy model of the ISS inside my telescope when I wasn’t home.
That was my sarcastic sense of humor btw
And flerfs will sometimes say it's a hologram 😂 there nutters that that when in school,people who can't pay attention to learning reality are called window lickers because that's flerf school just keep looking out that classroom window with toilet paper in both ears 😂you no keep the learning of reality down to brainless zero
Aliens 👽 👽
The 15 degrees per hour drift is bob's legacy whether he likes it or not.
True
15 degrees from trailer park University
I would say his legacy is the moment in the show where he goes "..if we would reveal what we know right now, it would be bad for us very bad" or something along those lines. He is showing us all right there that he is manipulating the results and lying about them. He can't be trusted not one bit, of course all the flerfers just go na a he didn't say that etc crap.
@@takoja507 Yeah exactly. That's the bit that does it for me. It's one thing to prove yourself wrong (embarrassing as it may be) but to be caught out trying to cover it up is an absolute eye opener that this bloke is in it just for the money by living off the gullible.
He will be remembered fondly as the flat Earther that proved the Earth is a globe.
20:05 "Why do they had to have certain times of day for different regions to see it?". Wait, did he just debunk the flatness of the earth on a flat earth convention? 🤯
yes
It was even bettter when he continued that you dont need any schedule because you cant see it fro the entire USA at the same time. Thats an absolute Smerican shovinism. Didn't he notice that there are other countries?
yes he did and it was all accidental! now that's a TRUE PROFESSOR! he didn't even try and he accidentally figured out the truth, that's some next level skills.
Someone help me, I put solar panels on the roof of my house and now I can't find it because my house won't reflect light anymore!
Who ya gonna call: Ghostbusters!
i asked my brother to hold a solar panel while trying to mount them,it's been 6 months and we are still looking for him help
@@Andrea-wr5wd
Hmmm.
That brings up a question of mine. Could it be, that somebody gave some solar panels to bigfoot?
Videot99 You mean the GLOBEbusters?
Did you try turning off the sun?
This very much reminds me of someone I used to know who, when I at one point mentioned that a small percentage of tv static is from background microwave radiation from the Big Bang, laughed and said "I don't believe that." When I pressed her on it, she basically said she couldn't understand how that could be, so she refused to believe it at all.
After watching this video, I aced my last physics exam. I didn't understand any of the questions, so I just wrote "I don't understand, so these questions aren't real." Got 100%. Thanks. Bob.
best arguement ever "i don't understand this, therefore it can't be real"... oh wait, i dont understand other people, this must mean they are not real! .. that's how psychopaths think
@@SethiozProject Doctors do it, if they can't find your problem, you don't have a problem.
@@fefferryerr1818 that's the sad truth ... not just doctors, but if someone doesn't understand your problem, they just call you names and say you faking it.
Weird people and doctors you two are meeting
“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, its impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” - - Bill Murray
@Harry M huh?, oh wait... experience with stupidity? haha good one.
I had this exact experience a couple days ago with an anti vaxxer lol
@Findlay Robertson We rather not beat on the disabled people.
I completely agree to this because I was once arguing with a flat earth idiot and it made me lost some brain cells just trying to explain what gravity even is when he saw me making a presentation about gravity and the effects of it
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
-- Mark Twain.
I love that the 15° hour drift have become a meme
Same
Christian Hoej I tought Bob is the meme.
Btw. Thanks Bob.
He is clown... Disinformation agent sent by NASA and Roscosmos.
-said flattard
@@idontthinkso2431 you are presupposing that flerfs knows Roscosmos is a thing :p
Thanks, Bob
I love when he tells the Flerfs, “You don’t have to do any math.” As though they’re all sitting there ready to do some hyper-advanced calculus.
It’s like telling a flock of chickens that they won’t be required to sequence a genome before scratching at the ground and pooping.
PERFECT analogy! 😂😂😂😂👌💯
"The ISS is not a solid object" XD
"We can see ISS not directly, but by the light reflected from it." Last time I checked, that's true for every object, not just ISS. That's how sight works.
That was my thoughts too.
Unless the damn thing's on fire.
@@frankfields8326 not a very nice thought but true.
@@frankfields8326 or if it has another light source like lightbulbs..
I don't want to defend him, but isn't he (wants to?) talking about that the ISS is not a "brick shaped" object, because of the solar panels?
My grandpa taught me so much about this world. He was not a professor or something, but he knew why seasons happen, how plants grow, the tides, the basic circle of life.... the idea that Bob is someones grandpa is so sad. Imagine you have an old person in your life who is spitting out so much shit. This is just sad...
Kinda like evangelists.. huh!!
"Imagine you have an old person in your life who is spitting out so much shit." .. its called *alzheimer's dementia* .. and yea that is realy sad ..
I think Bob absolutely knows he is peddling BS.. if he was just confused about the 15deg of drift per hour he wouldn't have said that this info must not get out.
@@paulhope3401 Lookup "motivated reasoning" - he'll either ignore contradictory evidence or try to explain it way (which he has, shown in another of Dan's videos I think?). It's like creationists (which I'm assuming Bob is!) saying "where's the proof?", and upon being shown fossils immediately decry them as being falsified. He said that, not because he wanted to hide the "truth", but because he genuinely WANTS to believe otherwise, and so wants an opportunity to disprove his own evidence. He's not seeing it as lying.
@@matthewdee6023 there just like "I want proof!" "There it is" "not this one, I don't like it"
Nathan Oakley assisted with the metric conversions.
Pressurized Module Length: *167.3 feet (73 meters)*
Solar Array Length: *239.4 feet (73 meters)*
Base 10 is hard huh
Robert Thomas As he repeats these figures with no obvious comprehension of the contradictory lengths! 🤦♂️
@@tornagawn Having no clue about anything is what makes him who he is!!
The entire time, he never addressed a simple question, if that object isn't the ISS, what the heck is it???
Yet again, he has no clue...
Doubt is their only argument and incredulity their only evidence
@@kartikiyer3067, and they don't stop to think that the ISS is only a twelfth of the way up to their imaginary dome.
Gotta love how, while showing the video of the people lined up with the mirrors, you could see the white houses in the background perfectly at all angles as the camera view moved. And of course, the houses are 3D objects being illuminated by the sun just like the ISS.
Ah yes. I think that’s what he gets wrong. He hears ”reflected light” and immediatly thinks ”mirror”. But I don’t know how he would explain that he can see an apple in front of him.
"It's quite simple. You don't have to do any calculations. Otherwise it starts to make sense."
Damn u too obsessed
@@saatvik7035 with what
Lol
@nostromo How old are you buddy?
"It takes a very specific angle for something to flash light directly at you." Except... I can see everything object all around me - the result of those objects reflecting light directly at me - without them being at a very specific angle. I can see cars passing by, I can see planes flying overhead, and I can see you wobbling on that stage. Amazing!
@ just a few more pounds and I'll be invisible too
@ nah... They wouldnt be invisible. If they dont reflect light at all, they would be a black hole.
@@mazingdaddid Don't you mean black sphere?
@@primary_magic1227 technically, youre correct, but our perception of it would be completely lost. There would be no contours and no contrast on its surface providing us with context. It would be perceived as a hole in existence.
@@mazingdaddid Fair enough.
He actually debunked flat earth when he said “well then how come everyone can’t see it at the same time anywhere!” Well brainiac... if the earth was flat they probably could. But because it’s a sphere that’s impossible.
Like Dan said, "Because there's a bloody big planet in the way!"
I'm baffled by how some people think. Is there something in the air? Or water maybe. Perhaps they were dropped on their heads. Ha!
@@romeowhiskey2759 I don’t believe they were dropped, no. Fuckers were clearly thrown 🤣🤣
@@Nathan35077 hahaaaaa, brilliant
@Shadow Realm Gaming the reason he’s questioning why can’t everyone see it at same time because he assumes earth is flat and that everyone should see it at same time, just a thought…
Man, how is it possible for a hand-held hunk of metal to shoot another piece of metal at 2000mph?! Must be impossi-ball!
You know how you can tell someone knows they are lying?
When they turn off the comments and block the likes and dislikes..
Guess who knows they are lying?
Maybe had a few too many people reminding him and his cult about 15° of drift needing to be kept confidential...thanks bob
Fairly common with flerfs.
Ken Hamm does that too.
Almost all of the flat earthers has disabled comments
@@adammetzger4182 so does Kent Hovind ! He's a fool too !!
As someone who has wired countless solar panels as an electrician I can tell ya for 100% they reflect plenty of light
And they only convert a small portion of the spectrum into electricity. They can reflect (or absorb as heat) a large portion of the spectrum and work fine.
yep. and "Solar arrays are designed to collect light, not reflect it" is NOT the same as "can't reflect light".
If Solar panels wouldn't reflect light,we weren't even able to see them
Even the best solar panels are only right run like 20% efficent so all the rest of the energy needs to go somewhere, ya some is absorbed as heat but not all of it...
@@emiliajojo5703 ya they would be just magic black voids.
_We're not doing math here_ should be their official slogan
How about," it's not rocket science"😉
I pretty much bursted in laughter when he said that... I was like, "When do you guys ever do the math anyway? You not doing the math is the very reason why you people are flattards to begin with!".
The only thing that flerfers know less about than math are physics, astronomy, and geography. I have never encountered one, going back at least five years, who knew anything at all about those subjects.
MathS is plural, please do not be stupid.
@@richardneedham13 It isn't in my native language.
I'm late to the party, sorry.
I know flat earthers aren't great with math, but at 3:10, he puts up " some 'facts' about the ISS".
First dot point;
Pressurised module length: 167.3 feet (73 metres)
Third dot point;
Solar array length: 239.4 feet (73 metres)
I didn't bother looking further.
If they can't get simple conversions correct, then how do they expect anybody to take them seriously?
Love your channel, Dan. Keep it up, mate.
Wait, this is literally “I don’t understand numbers so it doesn’t exist”
Yep... is actually called "the Duning Kruger Effect" and happens with many subjects... stuff one learns during a pandemic...
Ignorance is a choice, but not an excuse
@@mike.mentzers_top_guy The problem is, as a result of dunning kruger effect, it's a lot less of a choice.
me not like big number, so big number does not exist, big number goes byebye
@@naruarthur me want cookie!
"the sun is below the horizon" I thought their model didn't include a horizon
Cause they cant explain where the sun is half the day without using "glober" terminology.
You are not supposed to notice that.😅😅😅😅😅
They also use “hemisphere” all the time.
It becomes even more hilarious when you realize that he is using the exact same argument as we do when we ask flat earthers why we can't always see the sun. Of course, we can explain it while they... can't.
Little they know the Bible claims Earth is a Globe from the beginning to the end.
(Example: Isaiah 40:21-22)
They quote 90 verses they don't comprehend and say other lie, which is not included in the Bible as it explains the expansion of the Universe.
Just as they do with the information on Apollo 11 on the ISS and who knows what lies are they planning if Perseverance and Ingenuity find life on Mars.
12:20 there is missing some audio, am I right?
EDIT: Up to 13:39
Sound was muted by TH-cam because the original video contains a piano cover of Rocketman. Don't know if it's a false flag or not, but I hope SciManDan sees it and replaces the music with something else.
@@flecks_piano Thanks, I was wondering.
They seem to have removed the audio across the entire section indiscriminately without consideration for the fact that SciManDan actually broke in twice to make comments.
Ok not jus me lol
I thought sound on my phone broke and rebooted it before seeing if someone else has the same issue
Bob expects a continuous video of the ISS construction from start to finish. He doesn't seem to realize, or he ignores, that basic construction was from 1998 to 2011, but that it is still being added to gradually.
I nearly cried when he asked why they had different times for people living in different places to see the ISS. Bob, it's because of THAT reason and it's right there in front of your eyes AGAIN.
He literally spoke for ages there without saying anything. Impressive.
Also, he physically proved the rotation himself ... but still disregarded it? U can't talk to a mind like that.
He is a con artist. This guy makes a lot of money with all this bullshit.
Majority of these flat earthers that go to conventions as speakers, make appearances and do videos know what they are saying is bullshit. They know what they are doing and that con gullible people of their money.
Bob knows the earth isn't flat. Bob also knows that if he keeps up this farce, that he will make a lot more money.
@@FaintAcrobat "Bob knows the earth isn't flat. Bob also knows that if he keeps up this farce, that he will make a lot more money."--
So you are saying flat earth is like religion then, where the most vocal proponents are the most dishonest.
@@fomori2 From watching so many debunking videos of Flat Earth and Creationism lately, there are startling parallels in the way that their proponents all behave and speak. While it's true that a small minority genuinely believe it due to a lack of understanding (Flat Earth Dave is a great example), I have zero doubt that many, many prominent "leaders" within these two forms of cult know exactly what they're doing; i.e, lying to their followers in order to make money. Almost makes me want to start doing it.
I wouldn't call it “ages”; there is just a piece around 13:02 and another one around 13:37 (both of which are a part of the same fragment where the sound seems to have disappeared, but he didn't speak that entire time)
@@orisphera technically he did speak, we just (thankfully) couldn't hear him because...copyrighted music, maybe?
Flat earthers will say you can’t trust videos and photos on the internet, but all of their information comes from Twitter and Facebook
It comes from tested, measurable evidence, logic, and common sense. not nasa.
@@tompiscitelli2548 ....
@@tompiscitelli2548 you really dont understand that bob has OBSERVED the rotation of the earth?
A 15° per hour dirft....
If your so over confident of yourself
Then do dan's 5000 dollar challenge
And make sure you follow all of the requirements
@@tompiscitelli2548 It needs to be common knowledge to be common sense. The idea of a flat Earth is far from common sense. Also, most teachers around the globe aren't backed by Nasa and they constantly prove the world is round with their own experiments on a daily basis.
@@tompiscitelli2548 Yes, sphere earth is. Flat earth however, is moronic.
They think that nasa is the only space organization involved with the INTERNATIONAL space station, and probably the only one in general
The amount of time a US American spends contemplating the existence of countries other than their own is measured in exoseconds (=3.15 femtoyears) with usual values in the 1-2 million exoseconds range which is less time than it takes to blink.
I remember observing ISS through my telescope back when it was still being constructed and seeing the shape change every time the shuttle would come up and visit the space station. Guess I just hallucinated that?
And yes, in my videos of the space station you can very clearly tell that the solar arrays do not reflect nearly as much light as the radiators and habitat sections do. I love how Bob conveniently left that out of the discussion.
And yes, it changes angular size and brightness as it rises and reaches the meridian. I have to use a slower exposure when it's just rising than when it's high overhead. And you can see it getting larger in angular size as it approaches the meridian.
th-cam.com/video/kgaBWhfFAvc/w-d-xo.html
Nooo! You didn't see that! What actually happened is that the government, along with fluoride and chemicals that turn our frogs gay, they put in mind-&-memory-altering chemicals in your tap water along with tiny microchips (courtesy of Bill Gates, George Soros and the Bloodlines™️) that imbed themselves right onto your brain and stay latched on there for the remainder of your life. And these microchips, every time you think about the ISS or the Earth's shape or vaccines or the trillions of things that the government is lying to us about, the microchips, they delete what you actually saw when you were looking up through a telescope, which is OBVIOUSLY NOTHING! 😡.. they change your memory so that you recall seeing the ludicrous "International Space (really? Space is FAKE) Station" and that way, you become a globalist and recite the script that the government programmed into the microchips.
Your brain is literally washed by tap water that's laced with fluoride, mind altering and memory wiping chemicals and programmed microchips. You're literally brainwashed and programmed!
So you see?? You have to rely on folks like us, who know the truth to protect you, de-program you and rinse off your dirty little brains.
The Earth is flat. There is a glass-polymer dome above it. There is a giant turtle (or tortoise- we're not sure yet, out probes have yet to reach him/her) that's carrying our flat earth. ISS is fake. The Bloodlines have purchased and own you and your memories and the world's governments are just tiny little puppets controlled by said Bloodlines. Don't worry, you're safe with us.
🌏🚫🙅♂️👎📀🕺🤯🧠🙆♂️📡🔭
@@KubiqFeet what the hell tell me for my sanity that you are just joking please
"Guess I just hallucinated that?" - More likely you just pulled those lies right out of your butt. And "astronomy" is a pseudoscience, which must be *why* you feel compelled to make up & propagate fairytales to others in order to 'validate' your anti-scientific and totally unprovable Luciferian faith-based beliefs.
@@Astronomy_Live Hilarious how your videos look far *less* realistic than does this ancient TV show, ROFL!: th-cam.com/video/a2n0widQ4nA/w-d-xo.html
"Science is really really relying on you being able to see the reflected light"
Yup, that's how vision works.
I know right? Science isn't doing anything....our eyes are relying on reflected light.
@@joeshmoe7967 And that's exactly what @Bob Knodel doesn't get... As I've mentioned to them before, babbling about the sun moves out of "our perspective line of sight" and hence why we "couldn't see it anymore..." on their flat erff model of sunset... 🙄
@Tony Wilson Cheers Tony! 😊
@Tony Wilson I tweeted it out, Tony! @GlobeBusters won't like that... Posted to @Twitter :
Drat, almost forgot me friend, John. @GodlessEngineer
Comments TURNED OFF, what's the matter @GlobeBusters? Lose your Balls? 😁
Cc: @SciManDan @CatzConspiracy @ItsMrSensible @creakyblinder @mctoon @IlyaMoon @GloberMom
@FTFE @FatherSkeptic 😂
Someone should have told Bob about spiderwebs.
"I just pulled it off of You Tube" - a perfect summary of Flat Earth "research".
Exactly. And they call it "critical thinking" and "commonsense"
I wonder what will happen if TH-cam is gone.
I wonder how many tabs he had open.
Mike B this man has never closed a tab in his fucking life and we all know it.
@@jeffersonmcomen7226 FlatTube TV lol
18:00 the moon is also pretty bright and thats just a rock with dust on it, so clearly there is not much needed for an object to be brightly lit up like the ISS
All I kept hearing was: "I don't get it, ergo it can't be true."
He is not learned nor clever enough to use a word like: “ergo.”
@@UncommonSense-wm5fd Spot on.
Comments turned off on the original globebusters channel video.
The TH-cam equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "La, la, la I can't hear you."
LOL
This guys are very very brave.
Making videos debuking flat earth videis are better than simply commenting on it. More people can see it.
@@gabgabminx7612 True. If I had the time I would give it a go. I'm going to start learning to use some video editing software.
Wait, did he ever explain what it is then? He basically said: You see that thing there, yeah that's not there. And everyone believed him. WTF
Well I can look on 4chan and Rey skywalker can have sex with anyone.
Confirmation bias is extremely powerful sadly.
Yeah you missed it, its a whole bunch of people the length of a football field holding mirrors in orbit shining the sunlight to everyone
Welcome to idiocracy, AKA, a flat earth gathering. "We don't need answers or a feasible model, we just need to try and disprove what's already been proven! Use actual data? Nooo that's what THEY use, which always leads you to the same wrong answers. They're clearly wrong, because I don't understand it." Their life's philosophy is "I don't understand it therefore it doesn't exist." beyond that, they don't have the required IQ to question further.
@@erolsayan8600 you missed that that was an example of what it wasnt, but indeed, I also wonder. Does he really think NASA keeps an airplane or something flying about just to screw with people?
I often feel there are 2 groups of flat earthers: those who honestly believe it and those who see business opportunities taking advantage of the other flat earthers.
"I observed Earth it be flat" it must be real.
"I observed ISS to be in orbit" it must be fake.
Make up your mind, will you already?
He knows the earth s a sphere and the ISS is real. He is a flat earth troll literally “ bridge, coins and all”. He is scamming easily suggestible people for their money and adoration. He needed a new video and making sense was not a prerequisite.
Not much different to the magic cgi line in the sky!😂 It's flat no matter how high u go until can see the curve then it's fake 🤦♂️
@@Balbadeno what the fuck are you talking about? What "magic CGI line in the sky"? And further more, you need to start going higher than 10.7 km (35,000 ft) straight up before the earth's curve becomes apparent ... because ... SCIENCE! So, to conclude, around 40,000 ft, or greater, the curve of the earth should start to become more and more visible.
@@AstrosElectronicsLab that's my bad I thought the joke was obvious! I'm not a flurf as I'm a grown up! What I was trying to say Is flatearthers always say it's flat & provide pictures claiming it is but as soon as go high enough as u pointed out when the curve is easy to see then the flurf community claim every picture is fake or cgi, hence the magic cgi line in the sky! Hope that makes more sense 🌍🤠
@@Balbadeno Now i understand =D ty..
"It doesn't change angular size!" says the man that says it's 50 arc seconds when directly above us, but our visual acuity can only go down to 60 arc seconds. Someone needs to look up the definition of 'visual acuity'. You can still see it, you just can't discern anything other than a dot because it's too small!
You get a gold star. We can't see stars in the sky, though.
And there are these fabulous devices for improving visual acuity called telescopes. You can't see Saturn's rings with the naked eye, yet with a telescope...
He mentioned this hand held mirror experiment case, which is one of examples that disprove him immidiatelly. He should ask himself how is possible to see tiny mirror shine from several 10th of kilometers when actual mirror angular size is much smaller than 60 arcseconds.
Exactly. The misunderstanding of the topic is quite common. On photography forums I came across (quite a few times) people thinking there is no detail below the 'diffraction limit'. Although Bob is on quite a different level as we're talking here just 1 bright spot on a dark background... plus Bob is an aspiring engineer :D
Sorry Bob, We are NOT opponents because it's not a fight. This idea that the Earth is flat is all in your mind.
FightTheFlatEarth: *heavy breathing*
Thank you, I feel offended being called an ''opponent'' or ''globe -Earther'' as there was still a debatable theory about the shape of our planet. So their idea to separate people in ''flat Earthers'' or ''globe-Earthers'' debate teams (like we used to do in first grade, yet the title of the team belongs to kindergarten) is the epitome of ignorance.
What was it Einstein said?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
He must've talked with a flat earther when making that qoute.
Bob: "The ISS doesn't reflect any light"
Also Bob: "The ISS is like a mirror"
Hahaha
Also bob: the ISS is not a solid object
if you can see something it is technically reflecting light
I don't think Bob is used to mirrors that reflect light, his shirt is mighty wrinkled so he obviously didn't look at a reflection before going to his conference.
I was waiting for him to claim there is no ISS, there's some guy with a powerful cannon on the edge of the world shooting disco balls to the other side of the world so people *just think* it's a space station.
He's mentioning how the angular size never changes. Ironic when they dismiss how their teeny tiny sun in a flat earth never changes its angular size.
“a 15 degree per hour drift”
Thanks Bob!
NEVER gets old 🤣
So, they cannot believe the ISS is moving 5 miles per second, but it's totally fine that "a mirror" can go that fast. Also, if space is fake, what makes it move that fast? They are so easily to make fun of
"You can't see the ISS because its apparent size is too small"
*shows video of people in Britain using hand mirrors to reflect light which can be seen from a helicopter far away*
Guess the apparent size of those mirrors was just enormous somehow.
Many boaters carry small hand mirrors in their safety kits because they can be see a long way off.
Bob the idiot is confusing the limit of angular resolution of the eye which is controlled by the spacing distance between the cones at the fovea and tells you at what the angle between two separate objects (say lines or any detail really) is required for your visual system to be able to identify them as separate objects rather than appearing as a blurred single object. But with a bright enough light source there is no restriction to angular size of the source for it to be seen as a near point source, all that happens is there is a minimum apparant size of source perceived by you can not get finer due to the area of your visual field mapped by one cone, so a star very far away whose light hits just one cone appears as a near point source and one the same size twice as far away will appear as the same size until magnified because its light also hit just one cone. The minimum required is 1 cone to be activated possibly by as few as 3 photons (in perfect conditions) and you can perceive a light. Obviously this means the angular subtense of the source can be tiny. Bob fails at physics.
Adam Loveday good explanation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Bob knows all this, but his target audience doesn’t know or want to know.
And he says people in the UK spread out over the distance of a football field, is that our football American "football"
Flatards love doing the self-debunk.
12:22 the video sound cuts out and that includes you're response at 13:00 time mark. Sound doesn't come back till 13:40. Just FYI
I also checked the decoder details. The TH-cam decoder does not show a drop in its audio component. So most likely something either went wrong with mastering (a missing track) or in a transcoder somewhere (either on dan’s side or in the Yt transcode cluster...)
So he strawmans the ISS, debunks his strawman, then offers no explanation for what it IS. Sounds about right..
That guy is an engineer? I wouldn’t even trust him with a box of Legos.
Right? Makes me wonder what the fuck im doing with my life, man!! smh
Pretty sure he has no clue how to use them.
Engineering is a very broad field. Welding s**t back together for 40 years doesn’t make you Mr space. It’s like a dancer disbelieving in dentistry.
Bob was a commercial pilot. You do know about his NASA connection don't you? NASA was recruiting him, but little did they know he was in turn investigating them. They withdrew his application into the space flight program after they determined he wasn't buying into their lies.
becky doesit OMG! Really? I didn’t know that. Well this totally changes everything. You would think that he would lead with this information every time. So Bob was going to be hired by NASA as an engineer or pilot? Or both? When was this? I can’t seem to find any info about this fact. I’m very surprised this isn’t part of his mission statement. If only he had been a little more sneaky, maybe then Bob could have snuck out the secret documents from NASA that prove the earth is flat and we could all be rested and assured by the truth. How did they catch onto his scheme? I still can’t believe he doesn’t mention this every time he talks about flat earth. It also makes you wonder why not a single NASA employee or past employee has ever stepped up and blew that whistle. I mean surely one of the many thousands of NASA employees must have a heart and wants the truth to be told. Not even a single deathbed confession. Nothing. Maybe that why they didn’t hire Bob. He was too truthful. They probably only hire liars who like to keep secrets. That’s gotta be it. Where can I read about Bob’s close call with NASA?
Hi Dan, not sure how I missed this one before.
This Bob is an extraordinary character - just a couple of points to make:
1. Of course you can see the ISS from all over the USA at the same time, but it will have different rising and setting times etc. depending on where in the U.S.A. you are.
2. I look at the live feed from the ISS from time to time. When it's over the U.K. and the weather is clear, the ISS shows me bits of the U.K. and if I look out of the window I see blue sky. If the weather is cloudy, the ISS shows me clouds and I can look out of the window and also see clouds. Hard to fake!
Keep up the good work,
Chris
IF you could see the ISS all the time from everywhere it would be a strong case for flat, but you can't. The fact that you CAN'T see the ISS over the whole USA at once proves the Earth is round.
Thats why FE deny that the ISS even exists... because it destroys their idiotic theories XD
"Personal Incredulity is not an argument Bob" My favorite!
I didn't know what incredulity means so i looked it up and immediately thought well shit
Uh, what about the „Critical thinking“?
@@karanbirsinghbhullar incredulity simply can't be a word, no way! ;)
@@thomasneal9291 haha yea that can't be real.
Favourite*. At least give the British scientist a nod. ;-)
I love how he explains away the reflected light argument by saying that we can only see an object if the light is reflected from it at a very specific angle. He says this whilst stood in an auditorium with people to his left and people to his right, all of whom are able to see him simultaneously. How does he think that works?
Try this experiment, Bob. Stand in front of your car and look at it - can you see it, Bob? Now walk around it and look at it from behind, can you still see it, Bob? How can that possibly work?
Well, obviously he thinks that's possible because there are more lamps there than suns to light up the ISS. He can prove it by showing all the hotspots from all the separate lamps on his shiny skull and bling clothing.
His glasses are fake. They reflect light.
Thank you. I came here to post this as well.
He's so stupid. I wonder if he believes it should be like a laser. Lol
"he explains away the reflected light argument by saying that we can only see an object if the light is reflected from it at a very specific angle."
Well the statement is actually right.
To see the ISS from the ground the observer must be looking a the ISS when the solar arrays are at a specific angle with respect to the observer on the ground and the sun.
(This is called the EPS angle of earth-probe-sun angle)
The online tracking software partially accounts for this in telling us viewing opportunities
There are many time the ISS flies over head and we CANNOT see it with the naked eye because it appears dark.
That is when the ISS is in "eclipse" or when the arrays are oriented such that there is very little reflection back at the ground.
You used to be able to catch the "Iridium Flares" of spacecraft (when they were still up there) that were very specific "flashes" of light when the EPS angle was perfect for your particular location. The iridium sats are no longer up there so now the fad is spotting SpaceX's Starlink satellites.
A man who does not understand the difference between how a mirror reflects light and how a white surface does, is a lost man.
wow that conversion in presentation at the start:
167 feet = 73 meters
239 feet = 73 meters
damn your good!
nice spot lmao
As he has a broken calculator.. it just reads 73 all the time
2+2 = 73
That’s his next presentation
And he has a calculator to prove it live on stage !😁
I was scratching my head so hard when I saw that part! I was just coming down here to make a similar comments as yours lol
I came here to see if anyone spotted that 🤣
The greatest achievement we've made as a species isn't building the ISS and continuing to build on it, it's teaching flat earthers how to tie their shoes without choking on the shoelace.
😂
So first step, get the boot out of your mouth...
Spit my drink upon reading that comment. Noice!!!
Yep, I always wondered how some of those guys manage their stuff without being killed in the process
I am quite certain there is a very large loafer market for them.
I have no sound during Bob's powerpoint fyi. Sound comes back at 13:40
Same.
Same here, pretty shure it's in the video..
I believe that happened because the Earth is flat 😂😂😂😂😂
Dan was muted too.
Oh good. I thought it was a problem with my earbuds
3:30 Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but his measurement for the pressurized module length is wrong. If it was 167.3 feet, it should be 50.99 meters, not 73m.
Flat earthers: I only trust what I can see with my own eyes!
*Everybody can see the ISS*
Flat earthers: That's fake
Mentally insane much? 🤦🏼♂️
No one can "see" the fictional object that is the ISS, unless you are insane and/or talking about CGI cartoons.
@@True_Christian so you're telling me my telescope plays a cgi image of the Iss??
@@True_Christian Must be hell inside your head, when your religious dogma requires you to deny reality. But there is still time to resolve it. How about you put your ISS claim to the test-you know, like open and reasonable people do. Call up someone in your area who has a telescope and arrange a live viewing. But I bet you will deny even looking for the evidence, since deep down you know, you wouldn’t like what you would find.
@Christa Simon hahaha I nearly choke on my coffee
It's all mental gymnastics to keep the fairytale going.
I've tried for a long time to spot ISS in the sky but in France the weather won't allow me to do so. Two years ago I was in Mauritius, checked its position and I've been able to see it goes right above me in a dark sky, naked eyes. It was clear and one of the most beautiful moment in my life.
Dan, this video appears to lose audio at around 12:23-ish, when the video of the ISS moving comes on. Which means we're missing at least one of the zingers you throw at Bob when you cut into the footage. :(
I thought my tv broke at first 😂
if Bob or the person who filmed that clip used copy-written music he may have had to cut the audio from it.
It was copyrighted music
@@jldgaming7138 lol yeah i thought my laptop was bugging
I thought it was my earphones at first...
@11:26 Bob says, "... there are certain websites that claim you can see it at all hours of the night, which is frankly impossible, but I haven't, you know, checked the veracity on that."
Anyone else sensing a theme here?
His "If I can see it, everyone should be able to see it" actually hard proved that the earth is a sphere instead of what he wanted...
Nah it's just impossible.
Sorry, impossi-BALL.
Bob's gotta be a little salty his 15° hour drift is WAY more famous than he will ever be.
When he started to criticize the engineering design of the ISS that is when I know mr. Bob the builder should consult a psychologist.
The Dunning-Kruger in him really is shining through his egomaniac personality.
Der Psychologe wird sich an Bob die Zähne ausbeissen. Denn Bob ist ein vollständiger Schwachkopf.
12:21 sound cuts out for me, is this the video or just me
Normal person to flerf: "would you like to see my dog?"
Flerf: "that's not a dog"
Normal person: "yes it is"
Flerf: "no its not"
Normal person: "what is it then?"
Flerf: "I don't know but its not a dog"
Normal person calls a vet to verify its a dog, who does so.
Flerf: "the vet is a bloody paid shill"
Normal person: *facepalm*
Only problem, anyone who stays in a real life conversation with a flat earther this long doesn’t qualify as “normal”
Couldn't illustrate it better.
acctualy normal person rather call the ambulance to check if Flerf, has a stroke.
Yep, nice illustration. Same than claiming sky is red because all the guys on youtube say that, and it must be true because very bad people from claim that it is blue…
So long, just watching outside from the window is too complicated.
Man, wait till he finds out about disco balls.
Precisely. The ISS reflects light in all directions.
I think you mean disco *discs*
@@TheOwlman Exactly, the name disco comes from disc. Q.E.D.
*) And that's not even wrong, unlike flerf's "horizon comes from horizontal". 😆
1980: in 2020 we will have flying cars!
2020: We literally have to tell people the earth is not flat.
We've come so far as a species, we're currently wrapping around back to the Dark Ages.
@@raptorjesus6120 I disagree. Perspective matters.
@@albertjackinson We'll speak again when the earth becomes a barren wasteland void of life as we're turning it into right now. If not through sheer idiocy, we'll bring about our own extinction through greed.
@@raptorjesus6120 I think we'll solve climate change and become a green society, so...
Man-made disaster avoided.
@@albertjackinson Uh huh, you realize that half the planet's species went extinct since the 1970s? And, we've "lost" half the planet's forests in the last century? Optimistically, we've 30 or so years left before the point of no return, but don't worry, we'll be consumed in the flames of war before we even reach that point.
"Green society"! All the while, there are island-sized mountains of plastic garbage merrily floating in the world's oceans. And, who's going to bring about the green revolution anyway? The generation that places more importance on gender identity, social justice, and TickTock clout than the fucking planet? Yeah, excuse me if I don't hold my breath.
I actually kinda want to see the ISS now,
So I looked it up.
All the times it will be visible in the near future are between 3:30 and 5:30 in the morning.
I don't want to see it that badly.
Shouldn't flat earthers be categorized as a cult since their whole premise is based on belief and not facts?
There are other factors that are to be considered when classifying a movement or belief as a cult but it might as well be.
Not really it doesn't fulfill the checkpoints of the BITE model also I'm not sure if you're religious but literally every religion that says there's a magical invisible man in the sky would be a cult with your logic. They're just dumb. Not really a cult
They hold false beliefs, they force the Bible fit their beliefs and swear by some apocryphal texts, and they are base their lives around all of that by guarding their beliefs in hubris and ignorance...laughing at the truth whenever it is shown to them. It has leaders and blind followers. Sounds like a cult in the process of formation...still lots of disorganization. Some believe in serpent seed doctrine, that landmarks like devils tower is a tree stump, and other even crazier things.
Agree.
It may not be a cult, but it certainly has “collective delusion” or some features of “mass psychogenic illness”.
Angular size of Saturn is less than half of that and we still get to see it due to light reflection... This Bob's episode is gold!
Not to mention angular size of stars, which we see because they emit light...
And also he says it doesn't change in angular size and brightness, which it does - - -
Its hard to believe hes an actual engineer. I have my doubts.
The second he said "solar panels are designed to collect light" I was hoping he wasn't going to be brain-dead enough to say "if they collect light, why can we see them". The fact that the bar is this low worries me.
Solar panels are a Romulan cloaking device: confirmed!
I dropped my jaw when Dan said "retired engineer". Are you for real telling me that this flat earther was an engineer? This is a bit like when they find out a prosecuter is corrupt and all the people they jailed are set free. Someone needs to go over all the bridges he designed, make sure they're good enough.
I genuinely think most of the 'flearthers' on the social media and TH-cam don't believe in a flat Earth. They just take the money / clicks of the gullible.
More money in standing up and spouting nonsense than in being an engineer or street sweeper or store worker.....
I think he did software and had an associates degree, going off of his obituary
18:20 The brightness of the ISS does change as it flies overhead. I have seen the reflection dim as it goes to the horizon. Bob must be blind or ignorant in many ways not to know this.
If he wanted to sound more credible, he should have *measured* the apparent size and brightness of this object that he says we can't see in the first place... Never mind.
Oh Aaron, you left out option 3: Bob just lied... I know he looks like a nice guy, it doesn't stop him simply lying for Flattardia (superchat ker-ching). With the old 15 degree BS I used to think of him as an amiable buffoon but his totally made up and dangerous spouting concerning the current pandemic changed my mind, he is a lying idiot with an agenda.
Why are you all mocking this man? I've heard he has fifteen degrees, and a PHD (per hour drift). I'm here all week.
Sweet! Comma
10000 comedians out of work, and you got jokes..... Nah, it was a good one actually, lol
Yup, Bob's factbook: 167.3 feet = 73 meters, in the same time 239.4 feet = 73 meters. Probably depends on the foot size.
Should be the second one.
Bob also claims he’s got 10 inch but his wife still doesn’t believe him.🍆
America should have long ago abandoned that obviously inferior system of measurement
@@bcbc8649 I agree, we should fully commit to the metric system. The thing is we already use that system where it mostly matters: in the science field. So, sadly, I doubt the rest of the American society is going to switch over anytime soon. It's like trying to change American culture at this point haha.
first one is big foot feet, second is cindirella's.
What happened to audio at ~ 13:00 ??
One of the saddest things are people, such as Bob, who purposely delude themselves when presented with direct evidence against which they are arguing.
The Flat Earth cult relies heavily on dishonesty - imposed on others or on one's self. Without dishonesty, the FE cult would fade into nothingness.
In Bob we see a man gaslighting himself.
Bob: (Shows video of ISS transiting, changing in brightness)
Also Bob: How is it that the ISS doesn't change in brightness?
“People playing with mirrors and we only see the occasional flashes”. This guy does know how morse code works doesn’t he?
And search and rescue by “flashes of lights.”
He doesn't actually know how anything works.
Venus must be a mirror
Yeah but note that he started his farce with the argument that the ISS was so small that you can’t see it from that distance so you shouldn’t be able to see reflected light from it, then he shows you hundreds of flashes from mirrors on a beach in broad daylight from flat hand mirrors that you can’t see. Priceless!.
Well no wonder why they say all Photos and Videos are fake. They don't even believe things they can see in real life. Amazing.
I'd like a comprehensive list of anything this man has engineered, so i can stay as far away from it as possible.
He prob hasn't enginereed anything
He proberly made my frainds face. Yer its bad. And he knows his face is bad. And this guy has to of made it.
@@astronomicalgamer205 were you high/drunk. Are you ok?
Probably designs the locks for lockpicking lawyer videos that are under 2 minutes long
@@rulesofimgur no you have gone too far buddy!
At 3:35 he states that both the Pressurised Module Length of the ISS and the Solar Array Length are 73 meters, but equates this length to 167 feet and 239 feet respectively! He can't even get the basic maths right!
fucking THIS
too good, surprised Dan didn't pick on up that
@@SpydersByte He was overwhelmed by all the other stupid there
@@SpydersByte Dan's a wanker that's why
I wonder what the factor was that made him not be an engineer anymore.
"5 miles per second is one of those numbers that are incomprehensible" - Don't tell him about the speed of light, his head will explode.
299792458m/s
Or the Minuteman 3 ICBM with a top speed of 4.8 miles per second.
The speed of light is also the exact coordinates of the great pyramid of giza
The fun thing is that we can imagine Warp Speeds and Hyperspace, but 5 miles per second... Maddening
@@HEWfunkingKNEWit, for real?
17:00 he says as he's getting illuminated by stage lights.... I don't know, Bob. How is everyone in that room able to see you? How are you well lit for everyone in the room?
We're not laughing with you Bob, we're laughing at you
When, of course, we're not shaking our heads while holding our faces.
No not at him, but at his redicioulous statements..
No need to make it personal.
He is just a mortal flawed human, like we all are.
*A 15 DEGREE PER HOUR DRIFT*
He went the "no videos" route. Wow. Blatant shameless lying.
Kevin Gustafson has a great series showing the history of the ISS, with film or reconstructions in KSP of all the flights, all the construction steps, the works,
There are 6 planets visible to the naked eye: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and Uranus. Only one of them, Venus can appear bigger than 1 arc second and only when we are closest to it. So tell me Bob, why can we see the other 5? Why does Venus not just disappear when it falls below 1 arc second?
Rob Fowler um. You forgot one... earth is visible if you look down.
@@bucknaked788 No I didn't. I left it out on purpose becuase the earth is irrelevant in a discussion about how big planets appear in the sky.
r/whoosh
I didn’t think Uranus is visible to the naked eye? It wasn’t discovered until after telescopes were invented.
@@mbgal7758 it wasn't recognized as a planet until after telescopes, but in very good conditions it is in fact just barely visible to the naked eye.
What happened to the audio from 12:20-13:39, during the video of the ISS passing overhead? I could understand THAT being silent, but I don't hear anything even when Dan is on screen and his mouth is moving.
It's because it shows a third party's video,
so copyright mumbo jumbo.
Bob turned off his comments. Imagine that.
"Bob turned off his comments. Imagine that."
Bob turned off his brain. Imagine that!
Bob criticized the design of the greatest human structure ever, that literally orbits the earth, as if he could improve on it's design 😂
also he said it looks like Tie Fighters..like bitch have you even seen a pic of star wars tie fighter ever? ISS no where near looks like that
Flat Earthers talking about the Earth: trust your eyes, not "numbers"!!
Bob: you think you SEE the ISS??? NO, and here are some numbers!!!
The numbers mason, what do they mean?
@@shayanmoosavi9139 What do the numbers mean Mason?
@ Have you never seen his Orphan Red video? She believes pictures taken by satellites are fake because (I'm paraphrasing here) there is no one to observe the photos when they're taken, therefore what we receive on earth is actually just a bunch of jumbled mess and NASA just makes up photos based on the supposedly jumbled mess they receive. It's convoluted, confusing and absolutely RIDICULOUS.
@@Fatman221 I once put together the electronics to download and decode images from early weather satellites. This was back in the 70's, when the signals were frequency modulated analog. I have to admit, for the first couple of weeks I would have believed her description to be correct! It was my first experience with trying to use a phase locked loop.
Wow. What he said actually began to make some sense. It's helping me to understand where they're coming from. "They'll show you animations." To them, everything looks like cartoons. No wonder.
But their animations are based on reality…lol
8:50 "You don't have to do any math here"
Flat earthers breathe a collective sigh of relief.
I never bothered to divide 360 degres by 24h but now I know it's 15 thanks to this guy lol.
Same here.
Love it when flerfs come out with the phrase: "There is not one photo or video of {x}" - where x is something that has photos and videos of it online.
This is along with the lines of "{x} cannot explain {y}", which translates as "I do not [want to] understand {y}".
X is just animation. CGI, photoshoped, hollywood
Y doesn't even exist. Do your research.
@@cleanerben9636 So the ISS doesn't exist?
@@TheKurtHamilton to flerfers it doesn't ;-)
X is just a theory. Therefore y can be explained by perspective / magic / this thing i just pulled out my ass.
R.I.P. Bob! He is drifting the energy of the heavens at 15° an hour now, thanks again for all the entertainment Bob!