Tales of Vesperia is weird | A Retrospective

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  • This is a Tales of Vesperia Review / Retrospective mostly covering the storyline and it's shortcomings. Join me in this deep dive / retrospective of the flawed XBOX 360 / Nintendo Switch / PS4 / WHATEVER RPG classic.
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    Timestamp
    0:00:00- Intro
    0:02:16- The Lower Quarter
    0:07:30- Issues with the Story
    0:08:32- Graphics and Presentation
    0:10:15- The Characters So Far
    0:15:34- Halure and Aspio
    0:18:51- The Combat
    0:22:01- Capua Nor and Bad Dungeons
    0:25:50- Character Motivations
    0:27:29- Raven and Judith
    0:29:39- Music and Voice Acting
    0:30:46- Bat-Yuri
    0:31:52- Let's Go to the Inn First
    0:32:31- Pharoah Pharoah, Oh Baby Let My People Go
    0:35:03- Patty Cake Patty Cake
    0:36:05- Lore and Desert Stuff
    0:38:33- Yormgen, and Bat-Yuri Returns
    0:41:30- Rita, Raven, and Judith
    0:42:36- Dropping a Duce
    0:45:39- Don of the Dead
    0:47:31- Flying Around at the Speed of Sound
    0:50:31- A Dumb Twist, and a Dumber Twist
    0:56:09- Saving Estelle and Fighting Alexei
    0:58:40- Uh-oh, Adephagos
    1:01:11- Elemental Summon Hunting
    1:04:21- The Final Battle
    1:06:37- Closing Thoughts and Shout-outs
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ความคิดเห็น • 65

  • @WesDoesGames
    @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is your favorite Tales game and why?

    • @JillyMaysHere
      @JillyMaysHere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I admittedly haven't played one yet.

    • @Zerbraxi
      @Zerbraxi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still lean a lot towards Symphonia as my favorite, but Arise actually crept up quite a bit for me.
      Though...despite having Vesperia quite literally marked down on my backlog spreadsheet...I haven't gotten to it yet...ugh..but I really want to.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ZerbraxiVesperia was still worth playing despite how much I complained about it in the video lol. Nothing beats Symphonia as far as nostalgia goes

    • @RockmanMegaX
      @RockmanMegaX 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Vesperia is my fav Tales game. thanks for pooping on it

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RockmanMegaX if you have a short list of other favorites I'd be happy to poop on those as well ;)

  • @Terranigma23
    @Terranigma23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Vesperia is still one of my favorite Tales of game, because it's one of the last to have a traditional beautiful world map. Also a LOT of interesting optional content (sadly need a guide for that ahah). 😁

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do appreciate the optional content. I haven't really played the newer Tales games, sad to hear the world maps are gone 😢

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@WesDoesGamesTales of Innocence R and Tales of Hearts R are the only games newer than Vesperia with a world map. Ironically the original DS version of Tales of Hearts didn't have a world map.
      Other than those other JRPGs since the HD era with world maps (no remakes unless they added a world map) are Ni No Kuni, Ni No Kuni II,Dragon Quest IX,Dragon Quest XI,Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light,Final Fantasy Type 0,Bravely Default, Bravely Second, Bravely Default II, Nostalgia, Star Ocean First Departure,Brave Story New Traveller, 7th Dragon,The Alliance Alive,I Am Setsuna,Lost Sphere,Blue Dragon and Arc Rise Fantasia.
      Even though I used the term HD era...most of those were on Wii,DS,3DS and PSP.
      PS considering you said you waited a decade to play this game, I assume you didn't have a 360....and yes not even Lost Odyssey had a world map.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Chelaxim first time playing it, never owned an Xbox of any type

    • @matth1641
      @matth1641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ChelaximThe DS version of Hearts does have a world map, it gets unlocked later half of the game. It's strange that there's both a world map and separate field maps but yeah, it has one for sure.

  • @Hyp3rSonic
    @Hyp3rSonic หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This vid was uploaded on my 19th birthday(10/12) which i found kinda interesting

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy (late) birthday!

    • @Hyp3rSonic
      @Hyp3rSonic 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@WesDoesGamestysm!!! 🥰👍

  • @glorbojibbins2485
    @glorbojibbins2485 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    *REPEDE!*
    He's the goodest boy, I am also hairy and love smoking stuff so i relate.

  • @Hyp3rSonic
    @Hyp3rSonic 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Vesperia is probably my least fav game in the series(that i have played) i find the combat kinda clunky and janky, if that makes sense, and the dungeons seem padded, with too much empty space. Also, moving in the overworld is bad, until you get that item that increases your speed everywhere

  • @kingdancekiller
    @kingdancekiller 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The story was definitely the biggest turn off for me. I loved the combat and Yuri but holy heck I was STRUGGLING to care about the world.
    Yeah, Symphonia and Abyss have your typical Tales plot bloat but they have very high stakes from the outset.
    Vesperia was just one dumb task I didn’t care about after another and it’s paced REALLY weakly.
    “Hey Yuri, find the aque blastia! Oh but now here’s a mystery of who stole the tape measure? Oh! On the way to see the carpenter to get a new tape measure, I found that my boot’s heel fell off! Let’s just drop by the cobbler, oh drats! He needs a tape measure too! Oh well let’s find the tape measure first.”
    THIS IS LITERALLY THE FIRST 30 HOURS OF THIS GAME.

  • @acbd126
    @acbd126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this video was amazing dude. that hour went by so quickly. 🙏 hoping for a similar video for Symphonia even though this one looks like it took crazy man hours

  • @Tuffalixar
    @Tuffalixar หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    11 years just to play one game is so silly (my mom bought me tales of vesperia for the 360 when i had a 360 in like 2015-2017

    • @Tuffalixar
      @Tuffalixar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm 16 now and I was born in 2007 I am glad to have found out about the tales of series and I want to explore more but I'd have to buy new consoles, I will try to get old gen consoles so that I can get more tales of games and play co-op

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Symphonia is worth a buy and if you can get Abyss that's good too

  • @DarkEaterMid
    @DarkEaterMid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the Mischief Makers reference.

  • @aliciathekitsunegamer143
    @aliciathekitsunegamer143 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    tales of vesperia has my second favorite story in the tales of series with tales of symphonia being my top favorite

    • @aliciathekitsunegamer143
      @aliciathekitsunegamer143 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      oh yeah speaking of the characters from tales of symphonia i couldnt play as lloyd since i kept dying with him in melee range so i always played sheena or colette

  • @shredjward
    @shredjward 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Started watching this video because the game is on sale on switch and i dont really know if it will be for me (having played Berseria alone), but your humour got me paying attention, then your use of game sounds/music (mischief makers specifically) hooked me, and its a sealed deal for your video editing and analysis. Great video!

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it

  • @welkingunther8619
    @welkingunther8619 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I always thought Vesperia was a enhanced version of Symphonia, both in gameplay and side content. I feel this two games are very similar but Vesperia has a more deep gameplay and way more side content.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      If not for the story Vesperia would definitely be the better game. The combat was awesome in particular

    • @welkingunther8619
      @welkingunther8619 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@WesDoesGames ​ After watching your video two times this week, i must admit... the story sound pretty dumb after you highlight the absurdity of some situations 😂
      I don't realized it when i played the game back in 2009 and even after spending 200 hours on the Definitive Edition.
      I guess the gameplay and the side content make up for it.
      Also, i don't know if you have done the majority of the side content but, this game is litteraly filled to the brim with obscure and easy-to-miss sidequests, on top of being completely unavailable after passing a certain point in the story (bonus point for the Brionac quest 🥲).
      Some quests are nearly impossible to find and complete without a guide.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@welkingunther8619 I'm flattered you'd watch it twice! Yeah I gotta say I wasn't able to find a ton of side quests naturally (I'm also very oblivious). Nice username BTW. I plan on making a Valkyria Chronicles vid in the future

    • @welkingunther8619
      @welkingunther8619 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@WesDoesGames Haha thanks, well i'm a old french tactical RPG player so your videos speak to me a lot.
      I like your point of view, it feels refreshing and helped me to gain some hindsight after playing those games for hundred of hours.
      Looking forward for your Valkyria Chronicles video 😄

  • @Wavele69
    @Wavele69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video and I really like your style. I played this game many times and never realize how underdeveloped the story was until you point out some holes. My only criticism is the constant change of music. I'm at work and listening to this, so when the music changes every 20 seconds, it get a little disorienting. I also imagine it's a pain trying to find the tracks and cutting them down is time consuming.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate the feedback! Ill try to make the next one less spazzy, haha

    • @kingdancekiller
      @kingdancekiller 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WesDoesGames
      I appreciated the “Arrested Development piano ” anytime anything related to fatherhood or your son came up.
      Classic.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kingdancekiller a fellow person of culture I see

  • @VisComicaV
    @VisComicaV 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    While i'm not super familiar with this game, your presentation and humor have me hooked. Awesome work on this!

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That means alot friend

  • @hardyjoe4278
    @hardyjoe4278 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It amazed me how this game looked so fluid on the Switch. Too bad Symphonia couldn't get this same treatment. I never played the original version.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only ever played Vesperia on switch too and I agree, it looks amazing

  • @JillyMaysHere
    @JillyMaysHere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always, and appreciate the roast + toast combo too!
    (Sorry I commented so late. Initially watched on a Roku box)

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Jill!

  • @azmenthe
    @azmenthe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man.. the TH-cam algorithm is honestly the worst. I literally searched "Tales of retrospective" a few days ago and of course this video was completely absent despite my obsessive scrolling... I only found it by checking out your channel after your Engage video. Awesome video, fuck TH-cam.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for taking the time to search it out. Yeah, ever since TH-cam switched from "show the results of what you search for" to "show you results we think you want to see" it's been hard to rank properly

    • @azmenthe
      @azmenthe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WesDoesGames *takes deep breath* I know.. I've filed bug reports over it 😂 "what we think you want" is for feeds, search should be search.

  • @goncaloferreira6429
    @goncaloferreira6429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cool video. Quite nicely pointed out all the problems i have with the " story". Story is not Tales forte and this one is specially erratic and "episodic" feeling.
    Lost some points when you said you like Yuri.

    • @WesDoesGames
      @WesDoesGames  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol why don't you like Yuri?

  • @benjamingarrison3050
    @benjamingarrison3050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly it sounds like you weren’t paying attention during the story

  • @Richter89Belmont
    @Richter89Belmont 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This man needs more subs

  • @HistorysMysterys
    @HistorysMysterys หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yuri was not a dude for the people he told Estelle to let an injured man die told her it was dumb to heal him. He was injured by monsters trying to fight for the guild. He is a huge prick.

  • @HistorysMysterys
    @HistorysMysterys หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yuri is one of the worst protagonists ever made.

  • @HistorysMysterys
    @HistorysMysterys หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stop talking mess about zestiria it's the best tales.

    • @aliciathekitsunegamer143
      @aliciathekitsunegamer143 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      for me its symphonia that i like more, zestiria wasnt that good and i found myself hating the gameplay more than the story which usually i like the gameplay more than the story however graces f is my 3rd favorite