The Subtle, Misunderstood Brilliance of Xenoblade 2 ► Nara

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  • Xenoblade 2 explained in 3 hours, 37 minutes, 40 seconds. (spoiler-free timestamps below)
    Spoilers begin at 51:15, so this retrospective can serve as an introduction or guide!
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    ► Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:35 Chapter 1
    03:15 1-1 Argentum Fundamentals
    05:29 1-2 A Peek at Storytelling
    06:23 1-3 Resonance
    08:06 1-4 Tutorials: Xenoblade's Greatest Flaw
    10:14 Chapter 2
    10:48 2-1 Blade Combat 101
    13:00 2-2 Gormott & Exploration
    13:52 2-3 Unique Monsters
    15:07 2-4 Torigoth
    15:57 2-5 Ardainian Soldiers
    18:13 2-6 Gacha
    21:02 2-7 Field Skills & the Affinity Chart
    23:37 2-8 Poppi & Tora
    25:19 2-9 Tiger-Tiger!
    25:44 2-10 The Intimidating Complexity of Xenoblade
    26:51 2-11 Operation Nia
    28:06 2-12 The Flamebringer
    29:29 2-13 A Home for Everyone
    30:17 Interlude: A Chaotic Development Cycle
    31:15 Character Design
    31:45 Sexualization Rant
    34:27 English Dub
    36:26 Chapter 3
    37:01 3-1 Uraya
    37:50 3-2 Driver Combos
    38:24 3-3 The Cycle of Blades
    39:59 3-4 Chain Attacks & Full Burst
    41:39 3-5 War & Power
    44:08 3-6 The Bringer of Chaos
    45:39 3-7 "The combat is slow"
    46:49 3-8 Fusion Combos
    48:36 3-9 Why I love the combat
    50:44 3-10 SPOILER WARNING
    51:15 3-11 SPOILERS BEGIN
    52:57 3-12 Drifting Soul
    56:10 3-13 The Awakening
    59:01 Chapter 4
    59:28 4-1 The Climb
    01:01:17 4-2 Merc Missions
    01:01:59 4-3 The Worst Hour of Xenoblade 2
    01:02:55 4-4 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
    01:04:47 4-5 Mor Ardain
    01:05:06 4-6 Hot Spring
    01:06:03 4-7 Lila
    01:06:57 4-8 Investigation
    01:08:19 4-9 One-Eye
    01:10:15 4-10 Factory
    01:12:10 4-11 Mikhail & Patroka
    01:14:04 Chapter 5
    01:14:50 5-1 Leftheria
    01:15:17 5-2 Fonsett
    01:16:09 5-3 The Crown Prince
    01:17:02 5-4 Indol
    01:18:19 5-5 The Praetor
    01:20:36 5-6 Temperantia
    01:23:47 Chapter 6
    01:26:00 6-1 Investigation 2
    01:27:10 6-2 Follow your heart
    01:28:56 6-3 Most Underrated Girl in Xenoblade 2
    01:29:49 6-4 Tantal
    01:31:39 6-5 The Omega Fetter
    01:33:36 Chapter 7
    01:35:00 7-1 The 2nd Best Cutscene in Xenoblade 2
    01:39:12 7-2 Together.
    01:42:41 7-3 Important Exposition
    01:44:14 7-4 Superhuman
    01:45:45 7-5 Spirit Crucible Elpys
    01:47:15 7-6 Accepting Yourself
    01:51:30 7-7 The Beauty of Accents
    01:52:52 7-8 Cliffs of Morytha
    01:53:37 7-9 The Fear She Carries
    01:58:55 Interlude: DLC Expansion Pass
    01:59:54 Colosseum Mode
    02:01:10 Torna, the Golden Country
    02:02:13 T-1 Torigoth of Old
    02:04:03 T-2 Gameplay Differences
    02:06:34 T-3 Hyber Village
    02:07:19 T-4 Meet the Party Members
    02:11:40 T-5 Auresco
    02:13:00 T-6 The Cycle of Life
    02:14:35 T-7 Community
    02:15:52 T-8 Top 3 Tornan Side Quests
    02:17:13 T-9 Before the War
    02:17:55 T-10 The Aegis War
    02:21:39 T-11 A Moment of Eternity
    02:23:33 Chapter 8
    02:24:04 8-1 Coffee with Milk
    02:25:17 8-2 Land of Morytha
    02:26:40 8-3 The Fall of Torna
    02:29:57 8-4 The Power of the Aegis
    02:31:27 8-5 The World Tree
    02:32:26 8-6 Heaven and Hell
    02:33:54 8-7 The Battle in the Skies
    02:35:11 Chapter 9
    02:36:12 9-1 Smile
    02:37:56 9-2 Last Stand
    02:43:15 Interlude: Favorites
    02:43:38 Favorite Blades (Gacha)
    02:45:37 0.1%
    02:46:10 Favorite Blades (Non-Gacha)
    02:48:22 3.14
    02:49:15 NG+ Exclusive Blades
    02:49:33 Favorite Heart-to-Hearts
    02:58:59 Favorite Post-Battle Dialogue
    03:07:18 Chapter 10
    03:08:06 10-1 Dreams of a Promised Land
    03:09:43 10-2 The Voice of the Aegis
    03:10:33 10-3 The Origins of Alrest
    03:13:22 10-4 Xeno References (SPOILERS)
    03:16:03 10-5 After Despair & Hope
    03:17:47 10-6 Aion
    03:19:47 10-7 The Tragedy of Hatred
    03:22:05 10-8 The Gift of Light
    03:26:27 10-9 A Parade of Embers
    03:27:23 10-10 Ending: Initial Thoughts
    03:28:23 10-11 Ending Analysis 1-1: Faith
    03:29:37 10-12 Ending Analysis 1-2: Laws
    03:30:02 10-13 Ending Analysis 2: Memories
    03:31:28 10-14 Ending Analysis 3-1: The Human
    03:32:14 10-15 Ending Analysis 3-2: The Adult
    03:32:54 10-16 Ending Analysis 3-3: The Optimist
    03:33:47 10-17 Ending Analysis 3-4: The Aegis
    03:35:11 Outro
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  • @Santoryu90
    @Santoryu90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Honestly I don’t think Rex‘s voice acting was actually that bad. Really my problem was he just couldn’t scream well but that’s about it.

    • @MichaelAronson
      @MichaelAronson ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The entire voice cast was horrible, compared to the Japanese voice cast and compared to the Xenoblade 1 voice cast. There was not a single good voice actor among them.

    • @Santoryu90
      @Santoryu90 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@MichaelAronson To each their own buddy.

    • @deadmetalbr
      @deadmetalbr ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@MichaelAronson Demonstrably false. Voice _direction_ was nearly non-existent, but the VAs did the best they could in its absence.

    • @MichaelAronson
      @MichaelAronson ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deadmetalbr They obviously didn't.

    • @deadmetalbr
      @deadmetalbr ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@MichaelAronson Skye Bennett. 🎤↷

  • @thorbsirm725
    @thorbsirm725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    I really like that scene with Mikhail at the end. In the Aegis War he hated Mythra for destroying Torna and Milton in the name of defeating Malos. But in his final moments I think he finally understood her, using his own giant laser mech to defeat Amalthus, at the cost of Indol and the innocents on it.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That's an interesting way to put it. It's like Mikhail, over the course of his encounters with Rex and the party, gradually gains insight into the kind of choice-- or lack thereof-- Mythra had to make at the end of the Aegis war, and that he himself played as much a part of how the world ended up as anyone else.

  • @muuhnkin4611
    @muuhnkin4611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Well as we know now:
    Rex did indeed love all of them xD

    • @TheFearsomeRat
      @TheFearsomeRat ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He showed them a thing or three.

  • @novaspacewitch9963
    @novaspacewitch9963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Just a note: the cutscene toward the end of the game where Pyra and Mythra's "personalities are flipped."
    That's not really it at all. They're just finally being completely open. Pyra is teasing a little bit like she's been shown to do, and dropping the reserved facade that keeps her from interjecting. Meanwhile Mythra is unafraid to come out of her abrasive shell and actually show the affection she felt all along. For the first time in the game, Rex is the one who's hiding his feelings. The others are finally being true to themselves without the pressure to keep up appearances.

  • @madgizmo2212
    @madgizmo2212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I personally found that the male party members fit with different kinds of teenagers. Tora is the pervy nerd who built his own robot girlfriend but has a wholesome relationship with her, Rex is a naive idealist who has a coming of age journey helping a girl(s) get home, and Zeke is the rebel who is trying too hard to be edgy and distant from his family yet ultimately cares about his home.

    • @ryanspencer9602
      @ryanspencer9602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The game is ultimately a coming of age story at heart.

  • @Cool-Vest
    @Cool-Vest ปีที่แล้ว +49

    As for the part where Pyra transforms into Pneuma and regains her memories, I think it is because she had them backed up on Rex's Crystal. This is another one of those things they were trying to be subtle about, but I think they went too hard into it because most people never caught it. It probably should have been explained later.

    • @Cool-Vest
      @Cool-Vest ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I guess them explaining it is the camera zooms in to Rex's half of the crystal, which is where their conversation is supposed to take place. It's either that or her memories were backed up in the orbital station, as all regular Blades transmit their memories to the Architect. Maybe her finally getting ready to use her Pneuma form opened this link to the beanstalk, evidenced by Aion in the background.

  • @yugimonmaster1018
    @yugimonmaster1018 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "It hurts to get friend zone"
    Me after XC3: oh no...she didn't get friend zoned, rex said what he meant to say.

  • @potatofarmergyro1720
    @potatofarmergyro1720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I gotta say for all the shit that Rex's English dub gets I personally love it for the whole cheeky kid feel that it portrays. and I think the scene where rex is mourning for the death of vandham is perfectly voiced atleast for me like damn it got me in the feels and also the final battle with malos where rex gives his speech is also something that I think is done perfectly. man I really wish they could redo the dub in the future with better voice direction and also with all if not most of the same voice actors(rip bana's va).

    • @alvarostockle
      @alvarostockle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In the ending of the game, when he tells Poppi "common! She's right there!", thats top of the level acting. Man sadly can't scream and people will remember that forever for how good Shulk's VA was screaming.

  • @bianks3916
    @bianks3916 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The quality of the game is insane, I love XC2 so much I could talk about it for hours, but I don't want to annoy anyone, I'am just so glad I've played it bc it's one of those things that make it worth living. Appreciate beauty and emotions gave power to life and this game really made me feel alive.

  • @icewingthefox9423
    @icewingthefox9423 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The ending of Xenoblade 3 really puts "I love you and all you guys." into a different context lol.

  • @nazurin5982
    @nazurin5982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Personally I strongly believe they retain their memories, and their last words are "I love you", it fits with the timing and the context of the ending song: it goes "I want to tell you......" Then a moment after, the zoom on their lips "I love you"

  • @Angelina-wx9px
    @Angelina-wx9px 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Found the video on Reddit and I’m shocked at how under appreciated it it. just finished watching the whole thing in one sitting and wow, amazing just incredible. Thank you so much for making this as I always feel so happy when I see my favorite game of all time treasured by others like I treasure it.

  • @prankovalero
    @prankovalero ปีที่แล้ว +51

    1:58:13 the reason why Pyra and Mythra retained their memory is possibly because of the core crystal on Rex's chest acting as their back up drive. Remember, their experiences are linked.

    • @perrydunetz882
      @perrydunetz882 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s actually specifically because they’re pneuma, literally all blade data gets sent to their core crystal including their own so they wouldn’t lose their memory no matter how many times they return to their core

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@perrydunetz882 That doesn't make too much sense in context tho. Core crystals all actually retain their data, even tho they send copies of it to the master blades. Therefore, the memory loss should be a seperate function of some kind.

    • @Direk091
      @Direk091 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It most likely is, since Malos stole their memories to become whole again in chapter 7. But since they still had half their core with Rex, they still remembered.

  • @pietrom.4846
    @pietrom.4846 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Xenoblade 2 combat system is the best of the trilogy imho

  • @queazy03
    @queazy03 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I thought Nia pushing Rex towards Pyra/Mythra was because she knew Rex was in love with them, and didn't want to hold him back with her own feelings for him

    • @daridon2483
      @daridon2483 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eyes are a window to the soul. The way Nia looked at Rex tells exactly what you said. She gave him the pass to go and be with them, despite that meaning no longer being close to Rex herself. She knew his heart was somewhere else and her own feelings were chaining him from reaching it, and thus in an act of true love she lets him go so he can be happy, a parallel to how Rex lets Pyra/Mythra go a few moments ago.
      Nia didn't realize how much of a gigachad Rex was though.

  • @WiiSage
    @WiiSage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    3:332:40 Finally someone mentions/notices the line with Zeke was with him talking about his own experience, ive seen so many not getting that scene even though it had Pandoria's reaction to add to it.

  • @madgizmo2212
    @madgizmo2212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The english dub is amazing considering just how little context the VAs had for their lines, and as much flak as Rex gets I only found that outside of contextual issues, the only delivery issue was basically whenever he screams.

    • @Hymn_
      @Hymn_ ปีที่แล้ว

      i haven't played or watch a lot of xc, but i must admit i enjoy listening the eng dub when i watch some xc2 content that youtube gave me.

    • @Cool-Vest
      @Cool-Vest ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The biggest problem most people have are the awkward pauses in sentences. Morag, Gramps, and Zeke struggle the most with this. I assume it's because the scenes already existed and were scarcely edited to fit the English dub, meaning they were required to stretch sentences longer than what was natural.

    • @okamaman7324
      @okamaman7324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cool-Vest Yes and no.
      On the Japanese original a LOT of Morags dialog is oversimplified Merefu talks in a very specific curt and paused manner. She also uses a lot of imperatives. (Kinda like Kyriu form Yakuza)
      As for Zeke, while the dialog is decent the dude speaks very theatrically with a lot of intonation so it is really hard to work with this in English

  • @tsunderemerc2963
    @tsunderemerc2963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    XC2 is definitely my favorite JRPG ever, in my top 3 for favorite games in general. I started with it and fell in love with its story and themes, and with how the Xeno universe works, it gave me a tether to enjoy XC1 with and enjoy it nearly as much, even if I have a nostalgia bias (objectively I can't say one is better than the other, I think they're complimentary works, not ones that oppose each other). It's the only JRPG I've played more than once, and it gets me really hyped for 3. The only bad thing is when I attempted to learn some of the core themes in Xenogears and Xenosaga since they occasionally have parallels or direct ties because of how complex their own lore is (like how the Conduit is Xenosaga's Zohar, whether it be literally or just an homage). I never really had a problem with the 'fanservice' of the game, and I think it shares a trait with the Yakuza series where it knows when to be serious, and when it can tell a joke, especially as the plot progresses. It's not like they're flashing Pyra's pouch items while someone is dying or during an emotional moment, most of that stuff is frontloaded, which kind of ties into the same way Xenoblade 1 sets up expectations and then (even if it's a buzzword) subverts them and flips it all over in a genius way. I can still appreciate weaker moments in the game, and couldn't say they serve no purpose at all (like Chapter 4, i believe, with Tora. Yeah, others are better but it still has a reason to be there). And I honestly like the ending being ambiguous, I can easily entertain both possibilities with Pyra and Mythra, and I think either ending is still good in their own way.
    PS: yeah this is a pre-watch comment, I like to share my own experiences for whoever to see, and then learn what opinions I have do or don't line up!
    PSS: Okay I watched it all, great video!

  • @SuperSavajin
    @SuperSavajin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of my favorite videos for XB2 now

  • @FuIIDiveVR
    @FuIIDiveVR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    X2 was the real fans game that the fans didn't understand.

  • @InTheMindOfDavid
    @InTheMindOfDavid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Personally I think Xenoblade 2 is the better game in the series, and from what I’ve played of Xenoblade 3 it’s a better game than the original as well. Granted it is a decade old game but I even think the sequels plots and stories are even better.

    • @countzero5150
      @countzero5150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As much as I think 1 is a masterpiece, the storytelling in 2 felt more personal. More emphasis on interactions between the characters and their emotions towards each other and the overall plot.

  • @ilavain
    @ilavain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for reminding me of every little part of this fantastic experience, your analysis of the ending was fantastic, I never thought about Mythra's sacrifice as being the logical conclusion of Vandham's philosophy. I am currently writing this in tears and I'm so so happy that there are people willing to analyse such heavy games that are hard to get into and very hard to openly enjoy. I have cried at least 20 times throughout the whole video, thanks to your analysis AND just the story. I first experienced this game in the year it came out through a let's play by JohneAwesome. I didn't know anything about it and I left feeling like it was just a failed sequel, like a lot of them are. I have not been able to shut up about how amazing the world of Alrest is to my friends thanks to Chuggaa's let's play on it. My biggest regret is being too poor to afford to play it by myself, but I'm hoping to be able to play 3 when it comes out.
    Again, thank you for this video, now I have a newfound appreciation of the story!

  • @nhodgie
    @nhodgie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    23mins in, and i've already had 2 'a-ha' moments where you've highlighted some game design aspects that I hadn't consciously noticed/considered in this game despite having fully beaten it and most of the way through a 100% completion run in preparation for XC3. Nicely done as Nia would say.

  • @XenoPon2
    @XenoPon2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Xenoblade chronicles 2 is since it's release and to this day my favorite single-player game,
    Although it isn't perfect (obviously, nothing is) this video does a good job covering both it's story and gameplay content 👌
    Good job!

    • @XenoPon2
      @XenoPon2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also this comment was written only 30 minutes into the video, everything after that point idk

  • @tatltails3923
    @tatltails3923 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    God, the ending still makes me cry...

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It's INCREDIBLY saddening to me that a lot of people wrote off Xenoblade 2 because it was "too anime" or "had too much fanservice."
    While I can understand people who only know the series from XC1 and Shulk (and the more "realistic" art style) and not being used to/liking the switch to an anime art style, or people not being a fan of Pyra's incredible small shorts and large assets, I don't think that should have been a reason to write off the game entirely. Yes, on a surface level they can put someone off, but the art style for a game should never be THE determining factor for if you do or don't buy a game. Hell, look at Undertale for example. That game, quite frankly, looks awful. Everything outside of the battle sprites looks like a child made them in MS Paint, and yet people were attracted to the game because of the characters, the story, the world. There were tons of people who I saw call the game ugly yet they praised the hell out of it otherwise.
    This game has one of my favorite stories in all of fiction. It has one of my favorite worlds in all of fiction. The cast of characters is incredible. This game is filled with so many emotional moments and amazingly impactful scenes that it's one of the few pieces of media that has made me cry. (That ending man...)
    I'll admit, I'm a newcomer to the Xeno series as a whole. I saw XC2 during the Treehouse Live at E3 and thought "Ah, well it looks nice, but the battle system looks confusing, and it's a JRPG, so it'll be super slow to play." God do I hate my past self for not giving it a chance. Xenoblade 2 is probably one of my favorite games of all time. In the past month or so I finally got my own copy, as well as Xenoblade Definitive Edition. I can't wait for the release of 3 in a few days. (And maybe after that I'll dust off my Wii U and play X for more than 30 minutes.)

    • @Zenthils
      @Zenthils 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The writting of Xeno 2 is also subpar to 1 and 3. Seems to be a real problem with weebs to accept and they just excuse it because it has "waifus" in it.

    • @daikaichis6229
      @daikaichis6229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zenthils i might need a explanation for " subpar" but that line about " weeb" is just wrong ( and what About people who are into "husbando" ? ) I can go as far has to say xeno 3 also has waifus and husbando but that change nothing .

    • @IISuzakuII
      @IISuzakuII 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Zenthils XC2 is to show people aren't as intelligent as they let on.

    • @Byakurenfan
      @Byakurenfan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me it was how the majority of the female blades when awakened there was focus on their boobs (the camera hung on them as they bounced) showed off the chracter. Also the whole gotcha is a turn off. Merc missions add nothing to the game. Chapter 4 should have been expanded or cut.

    • @daikaichis6229
      @daikaichis6229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Byakurenfan i mean every blade have the camera a this place when they are awakened

  • @Edgedancer
    @Edgedancer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love these sort of long form reviews. This is one of my favourite games and while 3 is great, 2 is always going to hold a special place in my heart.

  • @omegawario7479
    @omegawario7479 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for making this video. I don’t have time to replay Xenoblade 2 but watching this allowed me to pretty much experience it all over again.

  • @solarammy2255
    @solarammy2255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the only xenoblade 2 review I've watched that actually changed a few of my opinions. The depth some of your takes have took me by suprise, especially the finale

  • @buttons551
    @buttons551 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Like one part of me agrees with the party that Rex shouldn't be giving up but then the other part is like he's just a damn kid. Do you expect him to have this unbreakable will after getting trounced on so badly? If someone like Poppi hadn't been there to help Rex I feel like he might have walked away for sure due to Nia and Brighid.

  • @weberman173
    @weberman173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:46:00 i actually LOVED this fight.. i didnt realize i was meant to destroy multiple at once, or use chain attacks before someone started to multiply, so i powerd trough all 20 phantoms
    and it FELT like a test, it felt like i was being tested whatever i was worthy of what was hidden here. it felt amazing to me

  • @Arda-dq4rt
    @Arda-dq4rt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well, after realizing XC2 has more intricate and complex lore than XC1 (I didnt realize it while playing), my respect for it has increased. Just take a look at wikia of XC2's characters, locations and terms...WOW this game is packed. Although I already loved this game and considered it to be the best Switch exclusive by far. This game has many moving parts. And it actually went over my head while playing since the game moves SO FAST after certain story plot twist reveals. I think this was the most 'linear' feeling Xenoblade story. It definitely helped the pacing but I'm not sure it emphasized certain materials and its rich lore. I'm sure this was a side effect of having a low budget and man power Monolith had for this game. Apart from small feeling titans, seperated worlds and the slow start of the story, there is nothing but praise I can give to this game :D

  • @Jax_Two
    @Jax_Two 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't realize until watching this video just how much Jin's character interacts with the themes of XC3.

  • @thebisonx
    @thebisonx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is fantastic! You clearly put a ton of effort into this video and I wholeheartedly thank you for that.
    Xenoblade 2 is one of my all-time favourite games and your thorough retrospective brings back so many great memories of a good time in my life.
    Thanks again and best wishes to you!

  • @keilensmith5257
    @keilensmith5257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredible video, and a wonderful trip down memory lane. Xenoblade 2 is special to me like no other game, as much for the time it came into my life as for the actual quality.
    Your reasoning and theory for them losing their memory at the end was interesting, though I'll always be in the preserved memory camp ;). While I'd seen the other interpretation before, I'd never heard it argued so well.
    On a side note, I have a different theory for why they are split at the end:
    It's both stated and implied that core crystals contain data, including for the blade itself. Assumedly this what blades regenerate from, and it forms the basis for their bodies.
    When Pyra gives Rex part of the core crystal, they become linked, and when one takes damage the other does as well. The two halves of the core crystal are staying in sync, and when one detects change the other updates as well. At least, that's how I interpreted it.
    Prior to Pneuma's awakening, Rex treats Pyra and Mythra as completely separate people. However, during the adventure in Elpys and the subsequent revelations, he comes to understand them as one being. Critically, during this time he STILL HAS HALF HER CORE CRYSTAL, and her own is drained. When the two reunite, her crystal recuperates its data from the other half--Rex's.
    Now for the conspiracy theory: what if Rex's perception of the Aegis actually affected her crystal's data? Due to him now understanding them as a single being, and an incredibly powerful one at that, she regenerates into her true form accordingly. The old data was gone, leaving only what he had: a vision of one being with incredible power and potential.
    And carrying on from that, what if something similar occurs during their final regeneration? It might seem like Rex retroactively regressing, but in truth he is actually forced more than ever to acknowledge them as individuals after Pneuma appears. He even picks the name he uses from then on out, the name he calls out during their sacrifice. One, not both. At the end of the game, he once more sees them as two different people, albeit very much the same. And so, when the data regenerates them, it once again conforms to what he perceives. And if you need more proof of him seeing them as individuals, well... the one he picks is the one we see speak.
    His simple choice of a name is simultaneously insignificant and monumental, not for the result but for what it represents. With Rex's help, the two have come to terms with their nature. Mythra is no longer shackled by her past and overshadowed by her "better" half who is everything she isn't, and Pyra is no longer burdened with a fault and responsibility her old self was too weak to bear. Free of each other yet still united, they can flourish in true freedom.

  • @nickrispoli2532
    @nickrispoli2532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell of a video dude!! You did XC2 shining Justice and really capture me what makes this a fantastic game!

  • @joshualawrence4301
    @joshualawrence4301 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a great video. I feel like the way you interpret the story’s various hard-hitting scenes is familiar to a lot of players, but you put it into words much more eloquently than many could. And in such an easy to understand way. “Bravo” as the xb3 chain attacks say xP Hope you love xb3 and do content for it as well.

  • @shiningskies47
    @shiningskies47 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Normally video reviews of this game come from people who liked it, but didn't absolutely adore it like me, it's refreshing watching this one lol

  • @MrGnuh
    @MrGnuh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    picture this scene:
    some clueless little shit just got handed the most epic, awesome giga waifu blade sword.
    he's pumped. totally in to teach someone a lesson. so he lets it all out.
    the thing is, the sword didn't instantly turn him into an experienced, mature hero.
    he's still a clueless little shit.
    AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE
    imho the voice actor 100% nailed what's going on in that scene! 😁
    he's being cringe because he's still a boy. he's got all the growing ahead of him and rapidly develops into such a good boi. gotta love him!

  • @rowanatkinson3594
    @rowanatkinson3594 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've recently come back to this game (I dropped it right before you get chain attacks, turns out) and after a few tutorial vids on youtube to help me figure out what I was missing with the combat I legitimately love this game as much as 1 and 3 now. The systems I dislike I still dislike (field skills, mostly) but I'm having a whale of a time! Turns out putting dessert items in your pouch makes the game like, fifty times more fun.

  • @Frysbear
    @Frysbear 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, the ending to this game. The way everything comes together is my favorite. The tone shifts, the setting shifts. It pulls out the rug on the worldbuilding but makes you go OH CRAP that makes sense. And it also works on it's own, as well as ties into 1. The progression from falling to the acient human civilization below the sea, to climbing the high tech tower, to coming out at the top of the tree as a space station, Will forever be one of my favorite moments in a game.

  • @guillermoantonanzas9400
    @guillermoantonanzas9400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making me revive the whole game one more time, one of my favourite games ever ♥️

  • @infern24
    @infern24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    have to disagree on them losing their memories, to add to the klaus gift argument, klaus was interested in their bond and how it made the impossible possible, why would he then make her return to a core crystal and lose her memories and die then when he saw everything, even how jin turned out, and wouldn't want pyra or mythra to have to worry about losing their memories or going through what jin did or have to worry about remaking the bond from scratch all over again. not to mention what about when malos tried to steal their memories. that'd be like malos winning in the end. so no, most likely they still remember, no matter how much you all want it to be bittersweet and made fake claims with no proof of some datamine them losing their memories that literally does not exist and has been searched for everywhere. monolithsoft themselves even said in interviews they meant to make xenoblade 2 a happy ending to be different from xenoblade x's ending. a bittersweet thing like that would defeat the purpose of a happy ending. I seriously don't get why you all twist that silence thing as them introducing themselves when its too few words in the lip sync to be that, even in japanese, they're literally telling rex they love him in english and in japanese they say tadaima which translates to I'm home. even actual people that know japanese on forums have translated and even figured out what words line up with the lip sync and even they say that and not the whole forgetting memories thing.

    • @nazurin5982
      @nazurin5982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big agree, it simply -IS- like that, they say "I love you" at the end, simply because of how the song's timing works, it ends with "I want to tell you..." then cuts to the zoom on their lips "I love you"

    • @famillesabot5719
      @famillesabot5719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but it's fit with the song one last you lyrics.
      Can I ask you god
      Despite all of this
      Could the sandglass
      Somehow take back the time
      I wouldn't care where it should be
      However maybe it's a better ending because it's sad it's not an ending I would like. I cry with happienest at the end and I don't want to cry with sadness

    • @Nachtflut
      @Nachtflut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The whole thing with the Aegises being data processing units and having data for every living thing on earth while also not adhering to the normal Blade rule of returning to the core even after their Driver dies also already shows how they aren't like usual Blades.
      It would honestly feel kinda weird if they just forget like usual Blade.

    • @NuiYabuko
      @NuiYabuko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The thing is, if they lost their memories, wouldn't it be weird to just let themselves be hugged by Poppi like that? She'd be a complete stranger to them. Also saying Tadaima when you can't even remember belonging or leaving would be weird too.
      XC3 Ending Spoilers
      But Monolith Soft basically retconned Nia being friendzoned, so I guess they could do anything.

    • @infern24
      @infern24 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nachtflut I think what people fail to realize also is not all of pyra and mythra's powers come from the conduit/zohar, just the pneuma powers. all mythra's powers as an aegis are still hers and hers alone. their base aegis powers are not tied to the conduit, what's tied to the conduit is the reality warping powers and everything that makes up the pneuma power. pneuma power is basically same power as true monado, just not as limitless because the world doesn't work with ether the way xenoblade 1's world does. otherwise if pneuma was in the xenoblade 1 world would be as strong as true monado shulk. also remember the conduit/zohar was not in shulk's universe but they still were able to use the full aegis power through alvis because of how the universe worked with its ether. in other words pyra/mythra would be able to use their pneuma powers again or something like it if they were sent to the xenoblade 1 world. the conduit disappearing doesn't suddenly make her no longer an aegis and lose the data processing and other abilities, thats people making up utter nonsense. also its no longer up for debate, monolithsoft proved I was right and they still have their memories. find out in xenoblade 3. also I better not hear any whines about spoilers, I didn't spoil anything, them being referenced should be a given, xenoblade 3 is full of references to both games, its public knowledge. all I referenced is a reference to xenoblade 2 that you'll have to play the game to find out what it is.

  • @StarlightNkyra
    @StarlightNkyra ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude gave xenoblade 2 tutorial the game needed

  • @TheGreystroke
    @TheGreystroke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the Pyra clothes debate can be put to bed with go to a club on Saturday night and your see the girls wearing more revealing outfits but don't let RL get in the way of internet outrage

  • @ensislucis2395
    @ensislucis2395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:41:30 HOLY SHIT THAT IS AMAZING I DIDN’T EVEN REALIZE THAT IT’S JUST LIKE KOS-MOS OMG

  • @MTH062K.O
    @MTH062K.O 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad for making this video.I have played this game as well and at first I misunderstood some characters,especially how each of them are,but now that you explained it to me, I want to say
    Thank you 🙏 for making to understand even more ☺️

  • @dropshock284
    @dropshock284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So good to a video diving into the many nuances of this game and its brilliantly layered storytelling. I especially appreciate how closely you follow the development of arcs throughout the game (the bit with Poppi and the end is one of my favorites) because you even noted things I haven’t realized like the particular significance of Zeke’s last line
    Xenoblade 2 is my favorite game (X being a very close second). It does a great job showing how powerful it is when someone reaches out in kindness to another suffering from trauma and the weight of fear. Like with one of my other favorite stories Fruits Basket, it makes me want to be a better person for the people I love. That this game can evoke those feelings in me and also be an incredible gameplay experience is awesome

  • @RedZ1900
    @RedZ1900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sat through the whole thing. Very well done.

  • @manaphy1007
    @manaphy1007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best part of the heart to heart for brighid and morag is if she has an ether cannon blade equipped she pulls out a massive gun (like the rocket launcher from halo) to shoot the fish

  • @KingPlague15th
    @KingPlague15th 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've grinded 100+ hours on this game and I love the game
    I also love how after a specific scene in Mor Ardane you just suspect Nia of her secret, I suspected it after seeing her struggle greatly in the crypt

  • @akiraraiku
    @akiraraiku 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video, it touched the mark on many aspects i liked a lot about the game.
    The land of morythra is one of my favorite zone, must be my nostalgia for lost civilisation kink.

  • @HandthatRockstWorld
    @HandthatRockstWorld ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The XC3 cameo is so damned perfect considering that "I love all you guys" scene. Damn. So freaking epic. The pure are naughtier than people think.

  • @sageoffire3964
    @sageoffire3964 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure this is officially the second longest Xenoblade Chronicles video anyone has ever made.

  • @famillesabot5719
    @famillesabot5719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know this game is complex when you can make a 3h30 video about it.

  • @ScootsLounge
    @ScootsLounge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *YOU GET IT*
    Mythra is such a deep character, and while I liked her even before Torna, Torna made her one of my absolute favorite characters of all time. Her trauma, her inner conflict, it makes her so compelling, and even though she's brought to her lowest in TTGC, it brings out the best in her. I just... I love Mythra so much, and it's refreshing seeing people appreciate her over Pyra. And don't get me wrong, Pyra deserves her own accolade for being a phenomenal character herself, but Mythra *heavily* carries Pyra imo, and while neither could be themselves without the other, it's definitely more evident with Pyra after the conclusion of TTGC.

    • @ScootsLounge
      @ScootsLounge ปีที่แล้ว

      I also just want to appreciate how you actually gave Tora the time of day. Tora is my favorite Driver in this game and my favorite Nopon in the series. His pervy antics aren't nearly as bad or as common as people say they are, and more than that, he's just a dreamer. His grandfather, his father, and himself all wanted to be Drivers. But it's extremely rare to see Nopon Drivers, so they did the next best thing. Make a God killing machine, lol.
      In all seriousness, the Poppi designs are all based on the generations that came together to make this a reality. Poppi Alpha uses Grampypon's original schematics for an Artificial Blade, while Poppi QT uses the Ether Furnace that his Dadapon used along with taking inspiration from Lila's design. QTpi is Tora's own original design, taking inspiration from the Aegis who is the Blade of Tora's first friend, Rex.
      I feel like people really undermine Tora's actual achievements and connections by focusing on the parts of his personality that they hate. And I didn't even know Tora was apparently a very appreciated Noponic Poet, I love that about him now.

  • @gligarguy4010
    @gligarguy4010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Finally, something to do until XB3

  • @ricardomendez9179
    @ricardomendez9179 ปีที่แล้ว

    I beat the game a couple weeks ago. Yes, it have some rough edges but I cant stop thinking in other thing that arent some themes of this game touch. This game have heart and soul.

  • @housequay
    @housequay ปีที่แล้ว

    With Future Redeemed as far as we know completely ending all content we'll have with these characters from the Klaus saga, I am just going mad watching hours on hours of different channels either reacting to playing it themselves, like SarahKey and Etika, or having in depth appreciation videos like this one. It just feels so good to listen to so many people love this series as much as I do, like it's validating. There is no true reason I need to watch these other than that. I just feel so good having something I love so heavily validated in this way.

  • @SoulbreakerNB
    @SoulbreakerNB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep. When it comes to the english dub, I didn't survive the first few chapters and I preferred playing with the JP dub instead. I have no qualms with other people preferring the english dub tho, so you can enjoy it as much I enjoy the JP dub.

  • @SoulbreakerNB
    @SoulbreakerNB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I goddamn cried when Vandham died.

  • @daniellobo8813
    @daniellobo8813 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seeing this after finishing xenoblade 3, it hits different.

  • @WiiSage
    @WiiSage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:33:03 Wait he killed the child ?!?, i always thought he just calmed it down as its why it stops crying, that's WAY darker.

  • @rower_1572
    @rower_1572 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll be back when I've finished the entire game, but u got a like

  • @amphibiousRV
    @amphibiousRV 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:02:48 I think I actually died when I saw this. Editing gold.

  • @mickey14906
    @mickey14906 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:14:18 hits differently after xenoblade chronicles 3.

  • @alvarostockle
    @alvarostockle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:41:20 what??? I never noticed that!!! That's so cool!

  • @CritsVG
    @CritsVG ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh... In all of my 200+ hours of Xenoblade 2, I can't say I remember hearing basically any of the gameplay dialogue you put into this video? How?? 😨

    • @CritsVG
      @CritsVG ปีที่แล้ว

      @AndyWitmyer Nope, I actually never did. Either I somehow didn't notice them or they didn't stick with me for some reason, can't say why.

  • @freshprinceof
    @freshprinceof 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. An incredible watch.

  • @mrspaceman2764
    @mrspaceman2764 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's true for this game is also true for all Monolith Soft games, the story is worth it regardless of the battle system which is usually great as long as you can understand the tutorials. Thankfully, XBC3's tutorials are great and continue dolling out new mechanics 50hrs in. Regardless of the game mechanics, the stories are up there with the best in the business! See Xenosaga (PCSX2), you'll thank me if you're new to Monolith Soft!

  • @famillesabot5719
    @famillesabot5719 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:02:21
    I played X so you understand why this moment was satisfaction pure

  • @Midna78
    @Midna78 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, I had no real issue getting Kos-mos... it was Dahlia who took me 4.500 core crystals and 3 playthroughs to finally get her 😅

  • @freduccini7423
    @freduccini7423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xenoblade does the best job of worldbuilding out of the trilogy
    But maybe thats because the other 2 games have much smaller worlds, and they are much less complex.
    But maybe I'm just a sucker for fictional politics

  • @gormottigrebel9978
    @gormottigrebel9978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whoa three hours, and less than a week after kingk’s analysis lol

  • @Fegemo
    @Fegemo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still in the middle but cried several times here 😭

  • @TainoMoya
    @TainoMoya ปีที่แล้ว

    My first jrpg and I love that it was

  • @hallonkatt
    @hallonkatt ปีที่แล้ว

    First of all; excellent video! I needed to pause and go do other things on occasion because... *long*. But really great! And I did get to the end eventually.
    I found it interesting that you complained about how Specials cause orbs to appear immediately in Torna. I always saw that as a gameplay way to show how Amalthus has corrupted Blades' individual power over time. In Torna, without Amalthus messing with their core crystals, Blades are more OP than they are in the main game, where he has eroded them over the course of centuries and it takes an entire team of Blades to create a single orb. Eh, but maybe I've been overthinking it? Either way I'm not complaining, because I do prefer Torna's gameplay. 😅
    Will also say, I never really minded Rex's voice acting that much. I understand why people complain about it, but the story and characters are compelling enough that I never truly noticed until I started seeing short clips taken out of context on TH-cam. Maybe because English isn't my first language? Or maybe because it's really only notable when he's shouting?
    I also understand why people complain about the physical appearance of nearly every female in this game. I concur with those criticisms. It does still to this day regularly take me out of the story. It does make it more difficult to take anything they say and do seriously. But not to the point where I hate on the game for it, or can't relate to those characters. It just takes more work on my part to get there. Would I respect Pyra more if she had been designed to look like an actual person instead of a teen boy's fantasy? Not really. But I would have appreciated it. And it certainly would have been more respectful toward her character by the developers. The H2H with Brighid and Pyra asking Tora about his view on women loses any credibility considering the design of those two characters in particular.
    I'm also one of those not being a fan of the ending, and you didn't convince me, unfortunately. I don't hate it or anything, I can objectively admit that it's cute and I'm not a monster - of course I'm glad Pyra and Mythra are alive. I'm just disappointed, in light of other happenings in the other two games. At least they did it right with Lora? She really made an impact. 😭

  • @Lovfia
    @Lovfia ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked this video and funny comments you made along the way haha

  • @ketchuprats8378
    @ketchuprats8378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    god, its fantastic to see xc2 finally getting the love it deserves recently. obviously people have been praising this game since it came out, but in the past couple months we went from having like, a single video essay on the game i thought was excellent (Ludiscere's critique of its use of sexualization) to 4, with this, KingK's, and Tronk's

  • @darcy7257
    @darcy7257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    King

  • @EnbyFish
    @EnbyFish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the movie, I watched this periodically as I grinded sidequests in 3 today. You do an amazing job breaking this game’s story down. I loved it so much

  • @NeoAguni
    @NeoAguni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not 100 percent sure Pyra and Mythra's memories where wiped. They absolutely could have been, but I am not sure.

  • @johnswanson1977
    @johnswanson1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great and probably took a lot of work to do. I’m making another account to give it a thumbs up.

  • @rocrod430
    @rocrod430 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh GOD yes I just have to watch this video (uhhhhh 3 hour video times 8 for 24 hours, 8 times 4 for the amount of days and that's uhhhhh 32) 32 times until Xenoblade 3 comes out WOOOOOOOOO

  • @bozodluffy1818
    @bozodluffy1818 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t think the voice acting was bad at all, the lip syncing was the true issue for me

  • @therealdschlitz
    @therealdschlitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job on this video

  • @RayOfTruth
    @RayOfTruth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video seems based, but I have to wait until I beat the game before I come back to finish it.

    • @RayOfTruth
      @RayOfTruth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I finished the game, but have to stop the video half way through because I haven't played Torna yet.

  • @9lives316
    @9lives316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found your channel again man, I remember watching your Dark Cloud videos!

  • @nickkalister6291
    @nickkalister6291 ปีที่แล้ว

    "pyra reconciles with a deal" incorrect use of reconcile

  • @SweisSenpai
    @SweisSenpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible video!!!!

  • @danielnasby7695
    @danielnasby7695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rex is the best protagonist ever

  • @TheGreystroke
    @TheGreystroke ปีที่แล้ว

    IS 15 Regarded as a young boy as that's how old rex is so teenage and 1 year off being able to marry and join the army in the UK i mention UK as that's were the localisation was done hence the far superior VA

  • @Kletian999
    @Kletian999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:00 the "each playthrough is different" approach could have been done much better by having guaranteed rare crystals given different blades scattered over the story. Grinding dozens of crystals and ending up with nothing but commons was incredibly unsatisfying.

  • @NepheneeGyattRizz
    @NepheneeGyattRizz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible

  • @TaqSoto
    @TaqSoto 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never finished Torna because of the foced side quests. I was so hyped to finish the game and then got roadblocked by side quests so I just stopped playing and watched the final cutscenes lol.

  • @quarreneverett4767
    @quarreneverett4767 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nia you find out she is oart kf the harem and have kids so its ok

  • @blablablubb7623
    @blablablubb7623 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In regards to the sexualisation, I don't mind it in general but just... It's almost every female character and with most of them it serves no puropse. Like, what would have been lost if Brighid's dress closed over her crotch instead of strategically placing a shadow? How it the game enhanced by Pyra barely wearing pants? And because it's so ubiquitous it loses all meaning. There are a few characters like Sheeba where leaning into the horny actually makes sense, but because almost every other female character looks like that it mostly becomes background noise, except it also makes some people uncomfortable

  • @okamaman7324
    @okamaman7324 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like Xenoblade, as is primarily a game about positive masculinity.
    (And all its goofiness)
    And i am a Sucker for anything that portrays us guys in a generally good light
    Also, A LOT of the actual subtleness is LOST in localization.
    I am replaying it in Japanese (Now that I know enough to translate a lot of the dialogue without a dictionary)
    And boy it is different.

  • @TwilightLynk
    @TwilightLynk ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And the extended talk of the female characters appearances lost me in this video too. Stopped watching.
    I'm sick of all this greater than though normalising. No one can just enjoy simple things any more without it being a crime against someone else.
    I don't even want to talk or hear about it any more. That's how sick I am of the whole thing.

  • @faiznordin9343
    @faiznordin9343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turned out I play the game wrong