New EV tyre test - Hankook Ventus iON evo on a Tesla Model 3 18” aero wheel.
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- This is the new Hankook Ion S EV tyre including foam sound insulation - now available for 18” wheel size that most Tesla Model 3’s are fitted with (standard range and long range).
We were given a set by Hankook to try but with instruction to say whatever we want about them and be honest.
Looking at the data now it would suggest the noise levels are good and the grip actually better than the Michelin Pilot Sports. However always hard to test when on different days in different conditions.
I’ve been forthcoming that none of this can be the most scientific of tests!! But a good opportunity to share some opinion using a car we know very well.
Economy - good
Grip - excellent
Noise - good
Price - sensible
These are pretty damn good and most likely found to be cheaper than Michelins so a good viable alternative one would suggest.
And don’t forget that Hankook are the standard OEM fitment to all the 19” Tesla 3 and Y (and BMW i4) wheels already. They are premium tyres!
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Very interesting, Richard, and you are obviously going out of your way to be as fair and unbiased as possible, even declaring your receipt of a single set of free tyres for testing. I also noticed you didn't do your own conclusion section, leaving that to the viewers. All very commendable.
The only thing I saw that wasn't highlighted was that the Michelins had more tyre wear than the Hankooks but everything else was factored in. The Hankooks stopped a bit better but they were newer. My takeaway is that there's a fag-paper between the two brands so it's probably coming down to price and availability. That's fabulously useful. Please pass on my thanks to the whole team!
My M3 SR LFP came fitted with 19” Wheels and Hankook Ventus Tyres, i have done only about 11k miles on them but they are hardly worn and have been a good tyre with low noise and good handling in all weathers.
Mine (M3 LR 2023 MIC) came with Hankook Ventus S1 As tires. I didn’t find anything about them but they seem pretty good.
Appreciate the effort you go to in making these videos. Cheers
For a super quiet car, whether it's a Tesla or Lexus, I want the quietest Tire money can buy. I would love to see a decibel shootout like this including Continental's touring tires.
So useful to real-world drivers. Thanks!
My 21 Model3LR had 19” wheels and Hankook tyres from new. At 25,000 miles I changed the rears due to a unrepairable puncture. The new rear tyres were identical, but non Tesla, without the foam lining. Subjectively they seemed a little louder. However, the major effect was a marked deterioration in handling when driven hard. From absolutely stable ‘go cart’ like handling before, the back end became quite ‘squirrelly’ and required more steering input. At 50,000 miles I changed all 4 tyres back to Tesla spec Hankooks. The fronts were completely knackered at 50,000, but they got there. With all 4 wheels restored to Tesla spec tyres, the handling and noise levels are back to very good.
Really love your tests
I put Michelin Crossclimate 2 on my Leaf, not the cheapest but they are brilliant tyres in dry, wet, snow, anything you throw at them. No need to swap tyres in the winter either. No difference to the efficiency.
Same here, coming to my Model Y when the Hankooks are finished
Have Cross Climates on both Leaf and Tesla and they're fantastic.
Put them on all my cars here in the Netherlands where seasons could mean nothing (hail in July and summer weather in december). Never skimp on safety
Any issues with speed rating and insurance?
This is completely false. The Cross Climate 2 tires have far worse efficiency than the standard tires and they are much louder. They are great in all weather but at least 25% less efficiency. I’d never buy them again
Whilst the label data is useful & fairly similar , it’s worth remembering thats the data when the tyre is new, the ratings could be completely different when they are 50%+ worn.
Remember the pilot sports are worn so the missing rubber accounts for cushioning, and sound levels ! Really you would need like for like to make it fair but I appreciate the effort .
Great video. Will be interesting to see video for Michelin Cross Climate vs Hankook iON all season version 🙂
Another great video & keep up the good work 👏🇬🇧👍
Great vid, ironically i just changed Rustee's tyres same as the test car and consideted thr hankok, however grip is my main ideal so stuck with TO
Interesting test. I would have always preferred Michelin however the Hankooks on my Y seem fine. One thing of note which I picked up from tyre sites. "Summer and winter tyres have the EU tyre label that indicates the noise level. This label, however, only covers external rolling noise. External rolling noise and interior noise may even be polar opposites, and reducing one may increase the other." In other words the decibel readings shouldn't be taken as what you will get in the cabin.
Love your content
I fitted Michelin E-Prinacy (electric car) tyres from Costco, last December and they are fantastic compared to the Michelin Sport 4’s I had on. Way quieter and A rated efficiency which really showed straight away.
Is the handling compromised?
I like to push the car hard ! I imagine those ev tires as shit when pushed ?
shit wet braking though
I've been using Michelin Primacy tyres for years, but this year changed to Michelin CrossClimate. I used to swap my summer tyres for Continental wnter tyres when running a rear wheel drive BMW. They turned it from an expensive paperweight during the first snow of the season, into a go anywhere in deep snow car. I no longer live in the country, so CrossClimates are all I need on my Peugeot SUV.
Thank you for the *honest review* , and I believe only review on the new iONs. I've been dying to get one of these tires. Both spec sheets look great but had 2 questions: (1) is any tire subjectively more comfortable with NVH, bumps, etc, and (2) while the sound difference seemed negligible, was the pitch different? I've got the stock Michelin Primacy MX4 that they put on Stock 2023 Model 3 RWD here in Canada. My priority is road quietness and comfort, then performance...Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Got 45k miles on my Michelins on 2019 M3, about to replace them finally next week. No rotations either, never had the time.
Damnnn lol I wonder how much if you would’ve rotated.
My old friend Roger star of the show! He’s been good to me the last few months….hope you’re looking after him Richard 😉
I switched to the Costco Michelin PS4 tires after the TO wore out. The difference in ride comfort is night and day, so much smoother than the original. I'm running them at 48 psi and getting the same efficiency as with the TO's. When driving aggressively I have noticed that the Costco Michelins do give up less progressively than the TO. But the improved comfort and cost savings (-30%) are worth it.
weirdly I have one non T0 version as after swapping both on the rear I had an irreparable puncture 1200 miles later. Now, 19k miles after that, the non T0 version has worn much more than the T0 version that has driven 1200 miles more on the other side. Weird?
@@MCSMIK Expected actually. One of the key differences between EV vs non-EV versions of the same tire is that the EV versions are engineered to deal with the generally higher weight, and higher low-end torque of an EV versus an ICE vehicle. This means they're built with thicker sidewalls and feel 'stiffer'. This is why the other guy finds the non-EV tire a softer ride (softer sidewalls), but will also find significantly faster wear which will offset the cheaper upfront cost.
@@MCSMIK It's difficult to compare non TO Michelin tries to each other as there are dozens or variants with similar naming. Here's the one I purchased and so far they seem to holding up better than the TO. That said, we've calmed down from early EV driver days when we would use the go pedal hard all the time.
MICHELIN PILOT SPORT A/S4 235/45R18 98Y XL 70,000 KM WARRANTY
Item # 1441365
$ 279.99 CAD
@@antoinepageau8336 What does TO stand for?
@@erichchan3 In case you did not find out yet,
"T0 means it’s been designed to the specs set out by the original manufacturer for use on the car. T is Tesla and 0 is the first revision. T1 would be more modern design etc. Sometimes keeping a T0 on an older Tesla would be the right thing to do for the age rather than just going for the newest T revision."
🤣 Brilliant fun and very scientific!! 🧐 Love your channel BTW
Thank you! Cheers!
very good tests there Richard backs up there TV ads, but with tyre company ads your never sure as to whether they are inflating there claims,your non scientific laymans tests do prove them to be worth a punt tbh :) spot on as usual Richard & Team
Running the Goodyear Maxlife tires on my Model 3 LR, they're great.
I'm on my 3rd set of tyres this year on my Peugeot e-208. The first was Michelin (came with the purchase of the car in Feb 2023), then I changed it to Hankook ventus s1 evo 3 in May (lasted 1 month and 3k miles) and now I'm back to Michelin Primacy 4. The money I've saved charging via solar panels at home has been spent all on tyres this year 🤣 My right foot is a bit heavy at the traffic light in sport mode, but I'm trying my best to stop doing that. The Michelin has a more comfortable ride than the Hankook and I will never change brands again. Wish I went with the CrossClimate though, that will be my next purchase (hopefully not in 2023). My uncles do uber in their electric cars and swear by winter tyres in all weathers, apparently they last even longer than summer tyres. Something to consider!
My model YP has PZero’s I really need a tyre specific to Tesla with a massive lip to protect the protruding turbine wheels
The tires are designed that was for a reason. The weight and performance of the vehicle. There is a method to the madness!
Done 70k in my m3 just had all 4 tyres replaced with Michelin get about 15k so 5 sets if only they had rubbing strips like the michelin tyres on my e class had having the alloys project more than the tyres is crazy , I have yet to see a m3 without curbed wheels
Great video's real talk
Could you try to do a brake test between long range and performance teslas?
My Cupra Born 77kwh has the optional Michelin Pilot Sport EV tyres. These are specifically for EVs. On the BMW i4, most owners with Hancook tyres are not that happy with them in winter.
Hi, I looked into braking distances for a computer simulation project many moons ago. The UK Highway code stopping distances are based on driver reaction time and the kinetic energy of the vehicle. We can ignore reaction time here as the diver knows to stop. The kinetic energy part of the stopping in feet is calculated as 1/20th of the speed in mph squared - there is no vehicle mass involved in the Highway code determination. So at 30 mph that is 0.05 x 30 x 30 = 45 feet. So, you've been doing rather well!
On my Chevy Volt I had OEM Good Year assurance then, when worn out, I replaced them with similar GY low rolling resistance tires. Got sooo many flats. They were like nail magnets and only got about 40k miles from each set. Bought my current Kuhmo regular (heavy) tires about 20k miles ago and zero flats. The electric range took a 10% hit but the braking distance is noticable shorter. And NO more flats! Not a big fan of LRR tires but maybe the Hankook and Michelin are better.
is there any change in range of car with the new tyres. why not do same car and do and road trip.
what is or will be the price difference between them.
I have had this brand before and they were really good for me.
my Ioniq 28 came with Michelin energy ones and they just did not ride right to me. so when a tyre got damaged I changed them all to continental tyres which at the time were cheaper and had all the same specs.
And they have just been great for me. and no change in efficiency
An entertaining video as always. Aren’t you comparing worn PS4s to the new Hankooks though?
I saw the efficiency 4.5 of the hanks what about the mich?
Hankook Véntus eco are the tyres that I have received as equipment on my Hyundai Ioniq 6 Dynamiq RWD and they certainly are quiet. Long-term consumption over 2,000 km in two months is 14.3L/100km (about 4.3km/kWh I think).
We switched out our 2022 Model 3 SR+ tyres for Cross Climate 2s earlier this year at around 24k. The front were getting worn and were about to head to the Alps when winter tyres were needed. Generrally we've not noticed the change, possibly a fraction less efficient at 70 but quieter and comfier than the original Pilot Sport 4's. @RSEV if you wanted to do a side by side comparison let me know.
We moved our other ev from ecopias to crossclimate2s. We saw about a 15% range/efficiency loss. Not a big deal except for road trips.
I'd love to see this comparison. We're heading to the Alps this winter in our Model 3 Performance. The all season options are really limited for the 20" uberturbine alloys and it would be interesting to know what you give up in efficiency over the relatively dry 900km motorway journey through France for the last 50km of potential snowy conditions in the mountains.
Are those Hankooks same as they come in 19” Model Y? Or different?
I just came back here, after I discarded mu Michelin Pilot Sport 4 after onlyt 3 seasons, I coud run it for another season but car started sliping in corners at lower speed and I decided it's not safe. Doing some resurch for next summer timer. Tesla now fits this tire on new Highland 19" while they use Michelin E-Primacy for 18" but that tire has a bad wet handeling and aquaplaning.
How is wet handling on this E-ON evo? Not sure should I just stick to stock Michelin, considering Continental Premium Contact 6. As I am very happy with there winter tires.
My 2021 M3LR came with the usual Tesla Michelin 235/45R18 PS4 acoustic tyres fitted. I changed all 4 tyres at at 21,100 miles (they still had 2-3mm of tread remaining) for 4x GoodYear Eagle F1 Assy 6. Now, after aprx 3,000 miles on the F1s my thoughts are as follows:- in terms of grip and handling I cannot really tell any difference in dry or wet, both are excellent. The F1s however feel more comfortable than the PS4 and are also quieter. BUT, I have noticed a small efficiency drop with the F1s; perhaps 5% although this is hard to quantify exactly of course due to changing external temperatures etc etc. For me the F1s are preferable (and they're also cheaper than the PS4).
The biggest take out will probably be the fact that they won't be nowhere near as durable as Ev specific tyres.
My June 2023 delivered model has Hankook tyres and I’m pleasantly surprised at how they are performing compared to my Dunlop tyres on my other car. I thought these having a ‘cheaper’ brand name would be worse, but it seems Hankook have really lifted their game.
What dash cover did you use to replace the wood? Great vid as I was shopping these vs the Michelin‘s
They supply alcantara replacements
www.rsymons.co.uk/alcantara-dashboard-and-door-trims-for-model-3-and-model-y
Just looked on Tesla existing inventory and the model 3 long range rear wheel drive is now available to purchase.
M3 RWD - 40k
M3LR RWD - 44k
M3LR AWD - 48k
Really should be running All Season tyres in the UK. Much better suited.
I seem to be the only one who will going for the Goodyear eagle f1 asymmetric 6.
A natural rival to the ps4 but cheaper.
Should offer identical performance and hopefully slightly better economy as the rolling resistance is better on them.
just to let you know, there is a new version of the Asymmetric 6 with acoustic foam - SCT (sound comfort technology)
Anything over 4 miles per kWh is really good. Averaging 4.5 or better is fantastic! Keep in mind, brand new tires have more rolling resistance, than they will, after a few thousand miles of "break-in". To average that with a good percentage being on brand new tires, is a good number. Now that the tires are "broken in", time to reset the average efficiency gauge, and see what they will do now! The Michelin tires set the bar pretty high. If the Hankook iON can do better, that's a real achievement for them.
Are these released officially yet?
quite many things changed in your test. Why in the brake test you changed the driver?
My Michelin PS4 on LR still 3/4mm in fronts at 39000 miles.
Rears changed at 28000
I run Goodyear efficient grip
Hankook makes very good tires in general. I've had 4 sets in the past (not on a tesla) and they were exceptional.
They have been rubbish for me; very poor construction quality from Korea.
How Much are the TYRES ?
I suspect am about to expose myself as an idiot but I bought a full set, but they only inflate to 36psi (absolute max 40) so now my TPMS constantly thinks my tyres are low without any apparent way of telling it 42psi isn’t the recommended pressure anymore. Fear I am stuck with a spurious fault indicator for the life of the tyres. 😢
Great video as ever. However, the Speed rating for the tyres from Tesla is Y so fitting W rated tyres could have insurance implications should you get a miserable insurance assessor. I don't get why Hankook haven't released these as a Y if they are a competitor to the PS4. I have the PS4 T1's on my 2021 and I can't seem to find these anywhere!
Speed limit is 70 on motorway.
W speed rating is fine
@@gj91471 so insightful. I'm sure the insurance assessment would agree with that logic.
@@jamesw9333 W = 168mph. If you are travelling beyond the limits of the tyre then you have more to worry about than your insurance. I doubt if any insurance company would be that bothered about a W rating on a tyre, given that most of them do not require notification when changing to winter tyres.
@@welshy1812 Nothing to do with travelling beyond the limits of the tyre - its about having the correct rated tyre for the vehicle, this is all the insurance company are interested in and it is a means to avoid paying out in the event of a claim as the vehicle will have been "modified from the manufacturers build"
@@jamesw9333 Tesla list two different tyres for the Model Y on their UK website, exact same size 255/45/19, one Hankook, one Pirelli. Pirelli is Y rated and the Hankook is W rated.
Enjoyed the test Richard, hankook are a great tyre.
Hmm, still comparing used Michelin's against brand new Hankooks. In general the PS4 is going to be better at dry, wet drip than the Hancook. But the new Hancook might be better on efficiency. The new Hancook is currently showing as the same price as a the brand new Pilot Sport 5 from Michelin, a tyre with better performance than its predecessor and comes with around 20% longer duration. I know I would be picking the PS5 over most.
The EV tires from Hankook and Kumho haven't been on the market very long so it remains to be seen how quickly they wear.
Are you comparing worn Michelins with new Hankooks?
Ive Hankook’s on my id4 and they’re wearing thin at 20k miles
We moved from Michelins to Sailun eRange tires
Hancook on the model 3 all day long 👌👌👌👌
Comparong a used tire too a new tire is not a relevant break test. Id say both tires are same in performance while H is better on wet surfaces compared to M.
I totally admitted multiple times nothing was scientific about this test!!
Recently haven’t been a fan of Hankook. Wears quickly, are noisy and most of all expensive. Michelins are a better quality tire overall in my opinion. A really good lower priced tire punching above it’s weight is another Korean brand. They have been really good for me as a cheaper alternative.
Depends which ones, seems that’s not the case for this model. Every brand has rubbish models
I got 45k miles / 3 years out of my original Michelins (M3 LR)! And no, I'm no grandad 😅
This kindof measurement you could do with dragy
I’d always take a Michelin where possible!
And that is why Michelin can charge a premium for their tires...
@@Tommy-vj2mcn fairness they tend to either win or be in the top 3 of any tyre group tests, especially so when the focus is on performance cars so the extra charge appears to be justified
@@JetsetDruidyup. Like Gillette razors lol 😂
So equivalent is best summary, the end of the video just cuts off.
The braking test is very unscientific. Different tyre and road temps will mean the Hancook would show better results in those conditions alone.
Your second sound test sounded as if the window was open.
With all of Teslas safety systems just wondering if the horror that unfolded in Wimbledon with the Land Rover would of been avoided if it had same system? I have model Y and a child just put one foot on the Rd yesterday and glowed red and car braked immediately I presume this would of kicked in ?
Hard to tell due to how it approached the fence etc. it would unlikely have stopped in my opinion, I own a model Y and whilst its warning tone goes off it is very late to react if ever. The land rover would likely to have had some sort of collision assist being a fairly top model but even this will only work in certain circumstances and scenarios.
It really depends. We don't know enough info. The defender will have flagged an alert and attempted to brake (as a Model Y would) but most (if not all) cars will allow you to override it so if the driver kept the accelerator down or pressed harder then the car will proceed
LOL symmetrical efficiency wheels. RIGHT are spinning the wrong way round, is it me or why do i feel stupid lol.
They don't cost as much and they were good at stopping
Michelin was worn down so it's not like for like
Worn-down would probably make it's quieter
Cheaper, how cheap?
In conclusion, new tires vork better than used tires.
That's exactly what I was thinking lol
They must be good as I’ve seen loads of model y’s on Hankook also 👍💪😉
Modern tires are all pretty good and relatively similar. Honestly, price is almost always the deciding factor now with recent tires.
Not for me, in a quiet car I want the quietest tires money can buy.
@@henrysniper8481 wind noise is so much more significant than tire noise at highway speeds. If your tires are making more noise than the wind then you have a problem with your wheels and tires.
To compare used tires to new tires is wrong, remember that the rubber is a fresh product and will over time and use become worse and worse in preformance. You can't compare a apple to a orange, easy and simple.
For the life of me, I cannot see how rotating prolongs life. Surely, all it does is put off the inevitable.
I'll never use Hankook tyres after I had issues with Hankook's tyre carcases delaminating explosively..
Please lead with your disclaimer if you can, enjoy your video's just nice to know the details up front not almost halfway in?
😂 why? He barely promoted the tyre just stated the information.. and all the facts came after the disclaimer anyway. Strange thing to get bothered about.
@@SuperlightR400 they're like know the potential side effects before I start watching 😂
On a slightLy different subject, how long before ferries, the Channel tunnel, car parks etc refuse admission of EV’s due to their ability to catch fire for no apparent reason, often with catastrophic results for anyone near or parked close to the EV, it seems these vehicle fires are virtually impossible to extinguish ! Apparently many insurance companies are now considering seriously the potential for huge claims, it’s been said all of our car insurance policies may increase in cost to offset the EV liability. I’m hoping your channel has a discussion covering these aspects because many of us considering a switch to an EV may need to reconsider, thank you.
U guys drive way too hard...mine are at 45k miles and will prob need new ones by early fall. Im still on stock Michelin primacy
Evening mate lmao there sh!t
1/2 Baked!