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i put a set of these on our 22 M3 LR a few weeks ago replacing the originals. These are markedly quieter and smoother. Passengers commented on it and asked what i'd done so its not just me that noticed....
A friend of mine is coming over this week to help me film with his M3. We'll repeat this test and I'll be curious to see how it stacks up against the 2019 and 2024 versions.
Hey Chris - as a MY owner like you I'm really impressed by this. The only thing that worries me is tyres are usually quieter when they are new. Any chance of re-running the test after some time?
I'm at 78000km with my original Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3. I still have some potential on them. I did rotate them every 20000 km. I'm gonna get Hankook Ion FlexClimate SUV for the winter and will probably keep them in the summer (unless I swap again to finish the Ventus). Both are 255/45 R19 104 Ventus is 104W FlexClimate is 104Y That's if I remember correctly. Looking forward to trying the FlexClimates!
Cabin noise includes the sound created by airflow. Airflow varies with direction and speed of wind. A tail wind of 20kph is equivalent to travelling 20kph slower in respect to the wind component of the mouse, obviously comparison of the rotational speed is valid.
We just put regular old tyres on our model y. Little bit more road noise which we don’t notice now. Lost a bit of efficiency. But better grip and less than 1/2 the cost.
Thanks for your testing. I bought the Hankook iON evo AS IH10 18 inch tyres for my Tesla Model 3 three months ago, and they went well through the Canberra winter. These smaller tyres cost me about $320 each, fitted, from Jax.
OK. Very interesting. We are at 60,138 kms on our 2021 M3 LR and the car has yet to tell us to change our tyres. Also, my AutoCheap depth indicator says we are still legal. I think the car is noisier now and I will welcome an upgrade to new tyres. Most of our driving is around Queanbeyan NSW and Canberra with monthly trips up and down the Hume. Thanks for the recommendation about the Hankook IONs. I note Evannex are offering what seems to be a good deal on tyres and wheels with free shipping, but I dont know enough about the tyres, how long shipping will take, and they are priced in US dollars.
The only issue with the list, and as demonstrated by the outcome is Tyres make a massive difference. They would all need to be tested with same tyres to know which one is the best. To be fair, cars come with a set of tyres, and those are the ones you test with. But by changing out the tyres, the list then becomes skewed. This was pretty good content, and very helpful. your table may have to start becoming 3d in nature with different tyre types.
Thanks for this; and excellent points. I guess if the type of tyres are the same and then applied to different vehicles, you can understand how quiet a car is.
@@chrisvanderstock I have a GV60, and i often wonder if a different set of tyres would make it even more quiet. You have peeked my interest so i might start looking at different tyre reviews to see if this is a possibility for my next set when the time comes. its good to know the brand you reviewed gave such a positive outcome for the tesla... so much so, it became quieter than the GV60. love your style of reviews, please keep up the good work.
How do you explain the difference on 3dB in stationary? It can't be the wheels, and it's the same car with AC off. The one with some rain has a lower dB measurement. Did your measurement gear change? Otherwise, there is something else that is wrong. Perhaps consider calibrating each measurement by taking a sample in your house in the same spot, and outside near the car to correlate values.
The Foam to Suppress noise in the tyres apparently has one drawback. If you have No Spare tyre and use the Repair Kit Can it may not seal the hole as the foam belt you showed will prevent the filler from getting to the leak. Luckily my Leaf has Space saver spare. Is Wheel arch noise suppression another option?
Hey Chris, have you tried those noise reduction kits that come with additional rubbers to put on doors? I always wondered if those would actually make a difference in addition to the tyres. Thank you for the video!
Haven't tried them. I saw a video several years ago by that European guy who is huge in the EV world... or was (!), he's fallen off my watch list and gosh darn it, I can't remember his name. He found that they didn't do much. But thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it. That and how to improve air flow in the MY - my biggest beef with it!
Hi Chris thanks for an informative video. Do you think a Kia EV9 would be able to achieve a 20% noise reduction, on the already outstanding lack of noise, Happy EVing.
After 65 000 km I replaced my OE Hankook's with these. Whilst I did not do the sound meter test, I did notice some noise reduction. However, new tyres are always quieter due to their deeper tread. I think I will probably go back to the S1 Evo 3 OE tyres as they did seem to last better than these new Ion tyres. Only thing is, the OE tyres are much more expensive.
Good to know. FYI - I searched for quiet EV tyres and these along with PP came up. I didn't bother trying to get the original sort as I felt road noise was coming from them.... which turns out to be true.
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CURRENT OFFER
Great news - Hankook is offering viewers who have seen this video, “buy 3 tyres, and get 1 free”! Offer is valid util 31/12/24. Just quote my video to Jax Tyres and they’ll honour it.
i put a set of these on our 22 M3 LR a few weeks ago replacing the originals. These are markedly quieter and smoother. Passengers commented on it and asked what i'd done so its not just me that noticed....
A friend of mine is coming over this week to help me film with his M3. We'll repeat this test and I'll be curious to see how it stacks up against the 2019 and 2024 versions.
Thanks Chris.
Very interesting results and useful to know for us all with our next tyre purchase.
This is in my top 10 EV videos of the year. Well done on a practical test and well researched.
Hey Chris - as a MY owner like you I'm really impressed by this. The only thing that worries me is tyres are usually quieter when they are new. Any chance of re-running the test after some time?
Thanks Chris, you did all the research for me. Cheers
No worries 🙂
I'm at 78000km with my original Hankook Ventus S1 Evo3. I still have some potential on them. I did rotate them every 20000 km.
I'm gonna get Hankook Ion FlexClimate SUV for the winter and will probably keep them in the summer (unless I swap again to finish the Ventus).
Both are 255/45 R19 104
Ventus is 104W
FlexClimate is 104Y
That's if I remember correctly.
Looking forward to trying the FlexClimates!
Cabin noise includes the sound created by airflow. Airflow varies with direction and speed of wind. A tail wind of 20kph is equivalent to travelling 20kph slower in respect to the wind component of the mouse, obviously comparison of the rotational speed is valid.
We just put regular old tyres on our model y. Little bit more road noise which we don’t notice now. Lost a bit of efficiency. But better grip and less than 1/2 the cost.
Great video Chris, very interesting results.
Thanks 👍
Thanks for your testing. I bought the Hankook iON evo AS IH10 18 inch tyres for my Tesla Model 3 three months ago, and they went well through the Canberra winter. These smaller tyres cost me about $320 each, fitted, from Jax.
I previously picked up their buy 4 get 1 free deal, but let it lapse. So I found the same thing from the folks down in Geelong.
We got a set of these pur on oue Model Y back in Dec '23.
Have done 20,000km on them so far and are holding up quite well
Whoa! You do a lot of KMs - so 3 years a new set?
@chrisvanderstock we do alot more but Cym has been of work. At the warranty of 70,000km that's just under 2 years of no4mal driving for us.
OK. Very interesting. We are at 60,138 kms on our 2021 M3 LR and the car has yet to tell us to change our tyres. Also, my AutoCheap depth indicator says we are still legal. I think the car is noisier now and I will welcome an upgrade to new tyres. Most of our driving is around Queanbeyan NSW and Canberra with monthly trips up and down the Hume. Thanks for the recommendation about the Hankook IONs. I note Evannex are offering what seems to be a good deal on tyres and wheels with free shipping, but I dont know enough about the tyres, how long shipping will take, and they are priced in US dollars.
Hi Chris. The tyres are not available in Geelong at the moment. Any suggestion of an alternative?
The only issue with the list, and as demonstrated by the outcome is Tyres make a massive difference. They would all need to be tested with same tyres to know which one is the best. To be fair, cars come with a set of tyres, and those are the ones you test with. But by changing out the tyres, the list then becomes skewed. This was pretty good content, and very helpful. your table may have to start becoming 3d in nature with different tyre types.
Thanks for this; and excellent points. I guess if the type of tyres are the same and then applied to different vehicles, you can understand how quiet a car is.
@@chrisvanderstock I have a GV60, and i often wonder if a different set of tyres would make it even more quiet. You have peeked my interest so i might start looking at different tyre reviews to see if this is a possibility for my next set when the time comes. its good to know the brand you reviewed gave such a positive outcome for the tesla... so much so, it became quieter than the GV60. love your style of reviews, please keep up the good work.
How do you explain the difference on 3dB in stationary? It can't be the wheels, and it's the same car with AC off.
The one with some rain has a lower dB measurement.
Did your measurement gear change?
Otherwise, there is something else that is wrong.
Perhaps consider calibrating each measurement by taking a sample in your house in the same spot, and outside near the car to correlate values.
excellent
The Foam to Suppress noise in the tyres apparently has one drawback. If you have No Spare tyre and use the Repair Kit Can it may not seal the hole as the foam belt you showed will prevent the filler from getting to the leak. Luckily my Leaf has Space saver spare. Is Wheel arch noise suppression another option?
Wheel arches, I reckon that's where I need to focus on next. Cheers!
Hey Chris, have you tried those noise reduction kits that come with additional rubbers to put on doors? I always wondered if those would actually make a difference in addition to the tyres. Thank you for the video!
Haven't tried them. I saw a video several years ago by that European guy who is huge in the EV world... or was (!), he's fallen off my watch list and gosh darn it, I can't remember his name. He found that they didn't do much. But thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it. That and how to improve air flow in the MY - my biggest beef with it!
I wonder what caused the difference in stationary noise and what impact this had on the rest of the results.
Hi Chris thanks for an informative video. Do you think a Kia EV9 would be able to achieve a 20% noise reduction, on the already outstanding lack of noise, Happy EVing.
Gosh it already is one of the quietest EVs I've tested, so I guess you'll have some sort of reduction but maybe not by 20%?
Have you looked at getting a 'Model 3 Wind Noise Reduction Kit Gen. 2' It fills in the gap between the roof panels. It should make a big difference.
Will look into it!
After 65 000 km I replaced my OE Hankook's with these. Whilst I did not do the sound meter test, I did notice some noise reduction. However, new tyres are always quieter due to their deeper tread. I think I will probably go back to the S1 Evo 3 OE tyres as they did seem to last better than these new Ion tyres. Only thing is, the OE tyres are much more expensive.
Good to know. FYI - I searched for quiet EV tyres and these along with PP came up. I didn't bother trying to get the original sort as I felt road noise was coming from them.... which turns out to be true.
CURRENT DISCOUNTS
Get 5% off EV tyres by mentioning this video to "Associated Cold Tread" tyre installers.
GET $700 OF YOUR NEXT TESLA - you must use this link!
www.tesla.com/referral/chris39709
FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
No compensation or editorial approval was provided to companies mentioned in this video. Views/opinions are my own. Hankook media assets used under TH-cam "fair use" policy.
Will you do a range test too? See if that claim is true?
Do you have a cost for the Tyre Rotations?
I did mine through Tesla and a local tyre place. Tesla was $65 each time; my local place was $50.
They don't have them in the size for my Ioniq 6 :( . Have to go with the Ventus EV model from Hankook
Whoa!? I would have thought they would. PS - I love the IONIQ 6, and 5 more so!
Obviously NEW tyres can't be compared to OLD worn tyres......... right Chris ?.
Correct. The original tests were done in late 2022 when the last set probably had 5 to 10k of KMs on them. So still a fair comparison?
Is the model Y double glazed ?
Yes
Front glass, and front windows are laminated (aka double glazed), but not the rear windows.
n i c e !
The NVH in Tesla is just soooo bad.
Yes, between the passenger belt buckle hitting the B pillar and the boot allowing a lot of noise into the cabin, they could do better.