What makes EV tires different, and why should you fit them! 🔌

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  • In this video I look at the differences between a regular road tire, and a tyre designed specifically for EVs, comparing them in safety tests such as braking, range tests and internal noise levels in the vehicle.
    Electric vehicles, otherwise known as EVs are quickly establishing themselves as a true rival to internal combustion engined (ICE) powered vehicles, and as such the tyre manufacturers are reacting with new tires and tyre technology.
    While electric cars look similar to "regular" vehicles, the extra weight of batteries, the extra torque from electric motors, the lack of noise from the engine and the desire for extra range to avoid charging means tires need to be developed differently for these unique EV requirements.
    The test vehicle is an Audi E-Tron, which is a beautiful full electric SUV from Audi, but this can apply to vehicles like the Tesla Model S, Tesla Model X, the Porsche Taycan and many other battery powered cars.
    Full information on the electric tyres used in this video can be found here:
    www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Hank...
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  • @ndc5544p
    @ndc5544p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I would like to see an array of tires tested on EVs, summer, winter and all-seasons. Preferably on a car that's got a more wider appeal than an Audi eTron, something like a ID.3, Zoe or a Tesla.

    • @seanpeacock5595
      @seanpeacock5595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wider appeal like a Zoe? 😂

    • @Maxzor11
      @Maxzor11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@seanpeacock5595 😂

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      working on it

    • @glashman
      @glashman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@seanpeacock5595 Yes, a Zoe, for those people who want to dip their toe into the world of EV's, but haven't got £40k+ to spend.

    • @gaara4667
      @gaara4667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@seanpeacock5595 can you afford a Taycan?

  • @haileybenson9714
    @haileybenson9714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a thorough explanation of everything, as the video continued I found myself having questions and then you answered them all! Such a good test!

  • @SteveLBMK
    @SteveLBMK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Don't have an EV and no immediate plans to buy one. Watched anyway because your content is always so interesting 👍👍👍

    • @seansimpson4472
      @seansimpson4472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can I ask why? I'm seriously considering an EV as my next car probably a tesla 3 or Jag I-pace as there more in my budget. But trying to gather opinions and data to help.

    • @themadjock1977
      @themadjock1977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@seansimpson4472 Don't worry what Steve or anyone else thinks, if an EV will work for you then go for it. From my point of view, I've had an Ioniq 28 kWh for three years and it’s been great. If those cars are in your budget I'd recommend the Tesla Model 3 or wait a little longer for the Model Y which has a hatchback and massive space. The Jag is not as efficient or technologically advanced but still lovely inside. Try both.

    • @tahsin28
      @tahsin28 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats everyone bruh. Like everyone.

    • @SteveLBMK
      @SteveLBMK 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seansimpson4472 I thought I had posted a lengthy reply, but perhaps there was a technical glitch. Just to say that an EV is not for me because I do occasional long journeys to the in-laws of 100 miles plus and the combination of range anxiety and inadequate charging facilities puts me off. Having said that, if I did only short journeys, an EV would make very good sense, simply install a charger at home. Guy Martin did an excellent programme on this, on Channel 4, when he looked at setting a new speed record with an EV. Worth watching.

    • @bdeithrick
      @bdeithrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neanderthal

  • @Zak437
    @Zak437 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been waiting aaaaall year for this one!!! Super glad it's finally here.

  • @jwenting
    @jwenting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    In other words, as usual: fit the recommended tyres to your car, the manufacturer knows what they're doing when they recommend those.

    • @TheCloudhopper
      @TheCloudhopper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Unless they are made by Nexen. Than throw them off the car IMMEDIATELY.

    • @loungelizard836
      @loungelizard836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He also said that the manufacturer will screw it up: Ford putting skinny tires on the Mach-E hoping to get a higher range number but changing it from a "Sports Car" to an Economy Box with crappy handling in the process.

    • @RAM-BAWN
      @RAM-BAWN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Unless it's a truck with P rated tires.

    • @93masterchief
      @93masterchief 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Also there was the whole Ford Firestone thing

    • @custommotor
      @custommotor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RAM-BAWN I think that really depends on what you're using the truck for. It's perfectly fine to run p rated tires on a truck if you're not really hauling anything for it. You know the people that buy it just because they might go get some bags of mulch from Lowe's once a year. If you're only putting 500 lb in the bed or even a thousand I wouldn't worry.

  • @DasHalbblut
    @DasHalbblut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Amazing test as always, Jonathan. Even when you do not have access to a test facility, you do a fantastic job of making the comparison as scientific as possible.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, appreciated!

  • @cherylheater4347
    @cherylheater4347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a Honda Clarity PHEV and am researching winter tires. I found your winter tire review helpful, so I watched this. It was reassuring for future all season choiches. Thanks!

  • @beachbumis
    @beachbumis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content, looking forward to your future EV related info!

  • @hugovgamboab
    @hugovgamboab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video, very useful. One question? What about run-flat or N2 tires in EV ? Nice idea for your next video. Thanks, keep it up!!!!

  • @AndyC2_
    @AndyC2_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing review once again 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
    Cannot wait for the all season tyre comparison I think is coming 🤞🏼🤞🏼

  • @Nicoolai
    @Nicoolai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the good video! I was waiting for this kind of video. Looking forward to similar content!

  • @abr555
    @abr555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top notch test/analysis/commentary as always, but maybe even more so. Also really appreciate the part at the end on EVs. I also used to say never to an EV, but now warming up to the idea for a family cehicle. Curious if the findings will be similar for other brand/category/size ev vs regular tires.

  • @breezeracing8015
    @breezeracing8015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Would be good to see a winter/all season EV tyres test. It's great to get into pre heated defrosted car in the winter. The extra weight, and instant low down torque can make winter conditions tricky though.

    • @JackPriddle
      @JackPriddle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Second this 👍

    • @Maxzor11
      @Maxzor11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes please!

    • @Ficon
      @Ficon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Extra weight helps with traction off the line although yes, you have to contend with momentum when turning and braking. Torque is actually a non-issue because EVs can instantly adjust torque output at the motors as opposed to a regular car that has to use brakes to slow down the slipping wheels while the engine is still trying to turn them. It's far less dramatic when you floor an EV on a slippery road.

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I live in Scotland and use Goodyear Ultragrip winter tyres on my rear wheel drive only Model 3 SR+. To my amazement the car turned out to be staggeringly good in winter conditions (excellent weight distribution and traction). Certainly much better than proper 4x4 vehicles that haven't put on winters (on tarmac).

    • @tfat00
      @tfat00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It snowed here last winter right after I got my Tesla, so I took it to an empty parking lot and tried to do doughnuts but the traction control was so precise I couldn’t lose traction even if I floored it and full turned. I was quite impressed

  • @dufonrafal
    @dufonrafal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Loved it ! Learned a few things :)
    With all those EV tyres becoming available a big test with a comparison to their counterpart is necessary! :)
    Also, a dedicated test of “ultra low rolling resistance tires” such as EcoContact 6 and e•Primacy please :)

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Both are on the list, just takign some time to plan!

    • @oldschoolman1444
      @oldschoolman1444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stiff sidewalls have less lateral wash and lower roll resistance. I had a set on my little car and loved them. I don't like the one's I have now and wish I would have put the tires I had on before.The tires I liked weren't ev tires but same concept.

  • @fpartidafpartida
    @fpartidafpartida 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Thanks for making this and “Hi” from across the pond in the States.

  • @Alex11Magic
    @Alex11Magic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    How soon do you reckon the All Season comparison will be out? I am set for this year and the one to come, but I find that your videos also have some entertaining value, so I like watching them even when I am not in the market for new tyres :) Also, reaaaally looking forward to see how my Vectors 3 compare to the CC2

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Next monday!

    • @Beorn.
      @Beorn. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On the strength of a previous review from here I bought Michelin Crossclimate tyres for my current car and they have been great. I will certainly be fitting the cc2's next time.

    • @TollyTolly
      @TollyTolly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that what I want to see, as in UK we have very mild winter, but still a bit of snow, can't see any reason to go for winter tyres, but all season can be an option

    • @fredrikalfson1541
      @fredrikalfson1541 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All season tires is a marketing scam. There are summer tires, and then there are winter tires with or without studs.

  • @TheTallRaver
    @TheTallRaver 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A very interesting test! Was wondering about the difference for a while now! Thanks buddy!👍👍👍

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      glad you enjoyed it!

  • @kkal1183
    @kkal1183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have a performance Tesla Y with EV specific performance tires. I was always curious about the difference. The performance is unreal and unlike and ICE vehicle I've owned.

  • @ghibli608
    @ghibli608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this report ! Very useful.

  • @pwells2389
    @pwells2389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful vid. Not sure I agree with your range/battery opinion but the tyre reporting was great.

  • @stevel1973
    @stevel1973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as usual, Jonathan. Very informative.

  • @davidellis1355
    @davidellis1355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great content as always ... I've been waiting for this, as recently bought an Leaf and fitted some efficient grip 2's and so far I've been happy with the choice, it's about 1000kg lighter then the e-tron so hopefully will be ok

  • @Cloverleaf7642
    @Cloverleaf7642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throughly enjoyed. Brilliant analysis, quality presentation.

  • @darreno1450
    @darreno1450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very helpful video! I'm about to get another set of tires for my Tesla and was contemplating going with non-EV ones, but your video have convinced me otherwise. Subscribed!

  • @ToySoldier060
    @ToySoldier060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great and informative video! Now I'm looking forward to seeing the Top EV Tire comparison!!

  • @dukinse5198
    @dukinse5198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always enjoy this channel's upload. Very informative stuff, helpful for us car owners. I live in Greece and i am wondering should i buy all seasons or summer tires?
    I am leaning towards all season, but i want the most summer focused ones... Maybe hankook 4s2? Don't know...

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know your climate but if you're not getting snow I'd go summer

    • @dukinse5198
      @dukinse5198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews we have almost 20 days to 2 and a half months temperatures below 7 celsius at the mornings and night time especially. Snow and ice are more rare, about 10 days per year i guess. The summer is very hot though, 35+ degrees for 3 months.

  • @th3w4nted
    @th3w4nted 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic review! Will you get a chance to test the Pilot Sport EV and Pirelli PZ4 NCS Elect tyres soon?

  • @johugra1
    @johugra1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed the succinct presentation. Thank you.

  • @anthonyc8499
    @anthonyc8499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Jonathan, great review and explanation! Do you think manufacturers will make EV-specific variants of all their tyres or will they just be niche tyres focused on particular traits like low rolling resistance and wear?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As evs are the future there will certainly be a lot more available over the next few years

  • @santillbrezon2161
    @santillbrezon2161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like your channel, the advice and information you give is very good and interesting .

  • @micw8422
    @micw8422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @tyrereviews, thanks for the informative review. Question, if the EV tire is heavier, understand the value in the foam for the sound, and stability, but where does the EV tire efficiency come from to counter the extra weight. I missed that. Thanks.

  • @ChrisSidwellSmith
    @ChrisSidwellSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for doing this video. EV owner here who moved from Michelin OEM EV tyres to Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO based upon your earlier All Season test. Your comments echo with what I've experienced over the last few months after switching from an dedicated EV tyre to a non EV tyre. I'm glad I got XL, and I hope we get a dedicated All-Season/Crossclimate style EV tyre soon.

    • @ChrisSidwellSmith
      @ChrisSidwellSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just looking at your Crossclimate 2 review, it might be next set if Volvo is using that as standard...

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michelin and Pirelli are solid choices for EVs

  • @peterwilliams2580
    @peterwilliams2580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent review, enjoy all your videos thanks & well done but I do have a question regarding Evs, what All-Season tyre would you recommend for an EV?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CC2 or SF2

    • @KyleBrightman
      @KyleBrightman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews I have a Bolt with CC2. Can confirm (although you know I’d never doubt your assessment, Jonathan).

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KyleBrightman 😁

  • @ronaldconiglio9942
    @ronaldconiglio9942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the informative review.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @yanchegoh1548
    @yanchegoh1548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love watching your videos and it is very infomative! By the way, have you thought of making eco tyres review?

  • @Scott-tp4kt
    @Scott-tp4kt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another good video review. Will u be doing something on Michelin's new Uptis airless tyres?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I'm allowed to drive it, yes for sure

  • @aarons4205
    @aarons4205 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the diversity in the reviews. I have a PHEV for getting around with the family and feel that it is the way to go for that situation.

  • @CookedLight
    @CookedLight 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting. Presented really well 👍🏻

  • @gust9464
    @gust9464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thx for sharing. I have an electric car & I used both tires with foam & without. I really didn’t notice any noise difference. The tires I used were the Michelin pilot sport 4S & the A/S. Really didn’t notice if affected my range as well. I do know the staggered set affects range. Cheers

  • @CitNOW
    @CitNOW 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very insightful video!

  • @Kowen8714
    @Kowen8714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Well, now I know why my Polestar 2 lost ~10% of range after upgrading to Pilot Sport 4s.
    As for EV vs ICE - I'm a petrolhead as well, shunned diesels all my life, but the reality is that the better EVs are better than ICE in almost every way, except noise/emotion. But that's what project/weekend cars are for :) Getting 0-60 times of 4.7s and "consumption" that's equivalent to 2l/100km of diesel is a pakcage many dreamed of. And since moat new ICE cars are already heavy, the extra battery weight isn't even that bad...

    • @mikeicee
      @mikeicee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus decrease my gas E350 Benz by 12%. Many BMW people say the same.

    • @ZesPak
      @ZesPak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My Model S came with Michelin Pilot Sports installed...

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      See if you can the "TO" tesla optomised P4s in your seize!

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mikeicee Yea they suck on my Tesla, but better than the 20' ps4 factory tires after broken in on 18in. Wearing fast also.

    • @mikeicee
      @mikeicee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jpmkiv When I had 18inch AMG wheels on my car the rears were wider and it cost like $500 a year. What a joke.

  • @odjblue
    @odjblue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Citroën C4 come from the factory with e-primacy, in both ev and combustion version. Some combustion ones, come with the Goodyear EG performance.

    • @ansv3340
      @ansv3340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Citeoen is still making cars?>

  • @thesoundsmith
    @thesoundsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this info. One thing I did not hear - longevity/mileage. The tires on my ICE vehicles got 40-50K.

  • @gunarstreikals2099
    @gunarstreikals2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your reviews. Really impressive and useful information. Best wishes )

  • @esametsala3054
    @esametsala3054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Once again I have to say: Your analytic and easy to understand way to explain the differences are the best! So, Guru has spoken 😁👍🇫🇮🥇

  • @pip5461
    @pip5461 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Who would have thought that there was a difference... nice work, if or when I change to EV, I am now aware and will make sure I choose the appropriate tyres...

  • @chargeheadsuk
    @chargeheadsuk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting this video. Thanks for the food for thought 💪⚡👍

  • @ninoellison7793
    @ninoellison7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another brilliant review!

  • @loriallen67
    @loriallen67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the info. First EV on order. Looking forward to a quieter ride.

  • @S2kDude36
    @S2kDude36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent review and good timing. Looking at the Hankook S1 EV as my next set of tires.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really liked them! What vehicle for?

    • @S2kDude36
      @S2kDude36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews Tesla Model 3 Performance, I have a spare set of Tesla 19" Sport Wheels to mount them. Looking for a less expensive tire than the PS4S, along with slightly better ride and improved efficiency, but mostly the lower cost tires, I have a 80 mile commute each way to and from my office.

  • @drandrewclarke
    @drandrewclarke 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cheers mate. this made my mind up

  • @bolina58
    @bolina58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, what do you think is the best winter tire for a Tesla Model 3 LR. Why is there no sottozero 3 Pirelli in your tests. Thank you very much

  • @enmirc9938
    @enmirc9938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I change the tires every two years but I watch all the episodes you do!

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My last winter tires lastet 7 years. I only drive up to 15.000km a year. The tüv and cracks between the profile of my Michelin tires where their death. Still had 4mm.

    • @martin1649
      @martin1649 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Nordlicht05 my summer michelins are the same!! DOT 15 and they're extremely cracked along the whole shoulder and inside, the whole thread! Thread is 4mm front and 4,5mm back

  • @jonathanpalmer5505
    @jonathanpalmer5505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was genuinely interesting.

  • @TonyJewell0
    @TonyJewell0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Very interesting.

  • @trykpaa
    @trykpaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a great video 👍 What's your recommendation for tire choice for lighter EVs?
    I have a Honda E, which is about 1500kg. Came standard with Michelin PS4S. Very grippy, but less efficient. So much that our winter tires, Blizzark LM005 (same dimensions) increase range by 10%. Should I go for EV specific summer tire next year?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      e.Primacy www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Michelin/e.Primacy.htm

  • @ivancajka732
    @ivancajka732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have been dying for a video like this since I drive a Tesla for the past 12 months.

  • @gery4870
    @gery4870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Superb video mate !! That is what I was waiting for !! LOVE IT !! Greetings from Barcelona :)
    PD. As an ID.3 owner, I also have EV tires fitted ;)

  • @adriangabrielgramada1016
    @adriangabrielgramada1016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nicely explained and put together 😉😁🙂

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @adriangabrielgramada1016
      @adriangabrielgramada1016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews You're very welcome ! And also now part of my subscriptions ! Also, here's an ideea for a future video: aireless 3D printed carbon reinforced all terrain / all climate tyres. One time installation + virtually unlimited repleneshing re-rubberizing cycles (different coating for diffrent gripping situations, even changing on the fly / on the road = a tire that outlasts any car and thus having the absolute lowest CO2 footprint... Just wait for my invention to get ready to hit the market ;)

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adriangabrielgramada1016 Get in touch when you have something to test ;)

    • @adriangabrielgramada1016
      @adriangabrielgramada1016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews Will sure do 😁😊 Thanks 🙂

  • @RekoPrime
    @RekoPrime 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I incorrectly assumed I was already subscribed to this fantastic channel. Solved.

  • @karacasarioglu1382
    @karacasarioglu1382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you do a normal vs RFT tires. Thx. Keep up the good work

  • @StevenTilly
    @StevenTilly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Missed one important stat. What's the price differential?

  • @dimitriosnikasmdphdfesc8132
    @dimitriosnikasmdphdfesc8132 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, Thank you for your efforts to present us the differences between those 2 tyres. Audi fits a set of Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3 EV tires in the Q3 SPortback mild - hybrid 150Hp. I' ve noticed as you said, the lower comfort level and the unacceptable lateral wet handling. Is there a reason to use a dedicated EV tire in a MHEV, which is primary an internal -combustion engine vehicle? Which would suggest instead?

  • @BrianFraser
    @BrianFraser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great overview.
    What about any cost uplift? Is the EV tyre cost a lot more over the current OE options for EV's at present?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      the ev tyre will be the only oe option i believe

  • @ahmadrtube
    @ahmadrtube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Rolling resistance is a function of (tire design and) deformation, which is a function of the contact patch which is mainly a function of weight and tire pressure (the sidewall being a small contributor). Therefore, even on a gas car, the rolling resistance gains of using an EV tire are real.
    Of course, as gas cars have way more losses all round, the relative impact of tire rolling resistance is small

    • @ms-jl6dl
      @ms-jl6dl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's 5%.

  • @moose05focus
    @moose05focus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It'd be cool to see an ev tire comparison between the manufactures, seems like they all have one out now

  • @eliaskazas133
    @eliaskazas133 ปีที่แล้ว

    will i have significant issues in installing k127e instead of k127a (ventus s1 evo 3 SUV). can't find the later in stock and was recommended k127e.. after reading your tests I chose efficientgrip 2 suv(for Tiguan) and I was hesitant to fit tyres for ev in diesel car

  • @MikeProcter1
    @MikeProcter1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for yet another great review.
    I’m looking for an all year round tyre for my 64kWh Soul EV. It’s on the OEM Nexen EV tyres and I’m not impressed with them. I had been thinking about CrossClimate 2 tyres until I saw your review. Now I’m not sure what to do. Based in the UK, but live in an exposed area in the midlands.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What put you off in the review? That's what I'd get, or the SF2.
      Edit: Oh you mean this review? How heavy is the car?

  • @Jeo-What
    @Jeo-What 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great review for today’s relevant topic on patrol vs EV vehicles. I wonder, if hybrid owners should also use EV tires? Would be interesting to see a comparison review on that.

    • @WijiFiji
      @WijiFiji 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a great question that I also would like to see being tested. As an owner of an E300 de, should I fit EV tires for the extra range in electric mode and the quieter ride? Or should I fit the regular tires? Is it even any benefit besides the lower noise? As the car weighs more than 2100kg, shouldn't struggle with wet braking.
      Hope these scenarios are tested in future videos about this topic, as well as other brands like Michelin Pilot Sport EV or Michelin e-Primacy.

    • @macbitz
      @macbitz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd also be interested to see that.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would focus on the middle ground tyre, low rolling resistance but not just for EV tyres, such as the e.Primacy

    • @SonicWawes
      @SonicWawes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tyrereviews How about to put these EV tires on Plug-in-Hybrid with some EV range? I mean PHEV like Hyundai Tucson PHEV or Toyota Rav 4 PHEV.

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Putting this EV tire on a petrol car would still be an interesting (entertaining) test :-)

  • @3storiesUp
    @3storiesUp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid as always Jon ! Don't know if you review these comments as the vid is a few years old but .. I have a Hybrid (A6). Its quite a heavy car (2.2 tonnes). I know you said that the cons outweigh the pro's in fitting an EV tyre to a ICE car, but what about a heavy hybrid ?

  • @RobStevens64
    @RobStevens64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great! Would love more EV-focused videos. I live in a rainy climate (Seattle) and I'm buying a Mustang Mach-E. I'm looking for an all-season tire (I'm lazy) with good wet weather performance, and won't decimate the range on the Mustang.

  • @acinonyx_potens_6564
    @acinonyx_potens_6564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello ! very good video as usual ! Can you test for example the difference between the Michelin Energy saver + and the Primacy 4 on an little hatchback EV car like the Renault Zoé or the Peugeot e-208 ? (or anything else :) ) and if it's possible to test with a regular car with an combustion engine to see the difference
    And if it's possible the difference in terme of Mpg on a hybride vehicule like the Toyota Prius/Renault Clio E-tech, or something else

  • @AnthonyTeasdale
    @AnthonyTeasdale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Still using Crossclimate + on my Leaf and thinking of switching to Crossclimate 2 when they need changing.
    Do you think they are the best option for a all season for electric?

    • @niccox1738
      @niccox1738 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snap - would also be interested to see if this is still the best option

    • @Th3cr4zy0n3
      @Th3cr4zy0n3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pirelli CINTURATO ALL SEASON SF 2 seems to be even better than CROSSCLIMATE 2… Test neeeded

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Test out monday, but CC2 and SF2 oth great optoins for EVs

  • @Radhatter1
    @Radhatter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Considering switching stock Tesla Model Y Hankook to Michelin Cross climate2 any issues ?

  • @filmagnoli
    @filmagnoli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. As I’m looking to replace my original set of tires on my Performance Model 3, 👀 Ng at options, your video is informative. I’d love to see a side by side comparison of different branded EV tires, I think that would be helpful to those considering going with stock manufacturers tires versus switching to another brand for reasons of performance or noise, etc. thanks again

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For teslas I'd say stick with OE as they're pretty tuned

  • @xiaomiredmi1541
    @xiaomiredmi1541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great test, thank you. So basically ev tires are tires for heavy cars? Then it would be a perfect match for my 2.5t diesel.

  • @mcdon2401
    @mcdon2401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My MG ZS EV was running Michelin Primacy 3 EV tyres, but I swapped them for a set of Hankook Kinergy 4S2s for the better performance in the lousy weather we had at the start of the year. Only difference in spec was a higher load index than what was originally fitted (95 v 91).
    Wear has been comparable to what I was getting with the same model of tyre on my old Golf estate, although I was carrying a bit of extra weight in the Golf at the time, so not quite a straight comparison. Economy hasn't been too bad, I did over 1000 miles on the original tyres, I've done close to 8000 on the new ones, and the figures are acceptable for me. I don't mind how long I'm charging for, I'd rather know I'll get to my destination no matter the weather 🤣

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My first car was an MG ZR. Different times

  • @p6102zrfxe
    @p6102zrfxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for nice video. Would you tell me, should I put MICHELIN E·PRIMACY on Toyota Corolla Hybrid TS?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that would work well

  • @suityencheng4035
    @suityencheng4035 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, what do u think about hankook ion s?

  • @steve0680657
    @steve0680657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Does this give credit to fitting "extra load" versions of tyres to combustion cars, in order to improve handling?
    It would be great to see some "extra load" versions of tyres already included as part of a group test... i.e. 205/55/16 91v vs 94v on a golf or similar. How would Braking, Handling, Rolling Resistance, Comfort be affected?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It sure does, but it obviously depends on brand and tyre

  • @harveysoicher2522
    @harveysoicher2522 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really enjoyed your video its very informative thank you! I completely agree that an EV tire is better for an EV. I’ve owned my Audi e-tron for just over two years and I ordered the 19 inch Audi rim with the Bridgestone Alenza tire which is designed specifically for low rolling resistance. The EPA rated range for the E Tron with a 20 inch and all season tire is 204 miles or 324 km. With my combination of 19 inch rims and Bridgestone low rolling resistant summer tires I’m getting easily 350 km or more range this past year I’ve been getting up to 450 km of range a few times quite often 400 km. Bridgestone Alenza tires are great for range and amazing in dry and wet conditions. They are also super quiet and very comfortable as they have a much higher profile than a 21 or 22 inch rim. Audi states the the larger rims may be better for extreme handling but they are heavier and give less range than using a 19 or 20 inch rim. So I’d you are wanting more range I recommend the 19 or 20 inch rims and a low rolling resistance tire that more tire manufacturers are coming out to market with. The Alenza tires have also worn very well. I’ve put on at least 55,000 km on these summer tires and my tread is still above the wear bars. Last week My Bridgestone Alenza tires helped me to complete a Canadian record setting drive for an EV across Canada from coast to coast of over 7,000 KM including 2 ferries of 11 hours of ferry travel and 38 charging stops in 4 days, 18 hours and 25 minutes. For more info check out www.maryannselectricdrive.com.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's super awesome :D

  • @kendahlshane3147
    @kendahlshane3147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive video. Important enough that I've posted a link to it in an extended discussion of Teslas on another website in the United States.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope they enjoyed it!

  • @vinylcabasse
    @vinylcabasse ปีที่แล้ว

    are continental tires also the factory installed option in the UK/EU? curious how these hankook EVs compare with the continentals

  • @happybeerlove
    @happybeerlove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Even the vids that I think are going to be as dry as a nuns nasty are still interesting. Nice work Jonathan keep it up mate 🍻

  • @aceace5457
    @aceace5457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i bought a new mimi e stage 3 and it drives and pulls better then my 7 series bmw lol i always have it in economy mode and i wobder should i put it in sport....

  • @utknovantuno
    @utknovantuno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are these tyres good for an hybrid vehicle which has both electric and petrol motor? Like a Lexus CT200h, for example...

  • @nuanyima
    @nuanyima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hankook tyre in this video isn't available for my EV (Kia e-Niro), but the Michelin e.Primacy is. I am deliberating between the e.Primacy and the CrossClimate 2 to put on my e-Niro. (I'm in the UK.) Any thoughts?

  • @Sovereign86
    @Sovereign86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to see a head 2 head comparison of a normal car + EV tires vs. a normal car +normal tires!

    • @jaypaans3471
      @jaypaans3471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol notice how "normal" is still i.c.e. ?

  • @Xenon0000000000001
    @Xenon0000000000001 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I like this because it shows how it's all about the engineering.

  • @nickdegroot2445
    @nickdegroot2445 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice review again. You said it is possible to apply acoustic foam inside normal tires. Did you mean that its possible to actually do this yourself? I am actually surprised you barely see any tires in the normal touring tire segment have it as it is really cheap to add and will make a significant increase in noise levels. What is the reason you think they don’t do it?

  • @matteo692
    @matteo692 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥 le gomme a che pressione erano gonfie ? Il SIDEWALL è’ identico scritto sulla gomma ?

  • @mechrocktech
    @mechrocktech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm very curious about Michelin's new EV tires coming out. Will you be testing those?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure will :)

    • @teaflo
      @teaflo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What are the new Michelin tires coming out?

    • @riskitforthebiscuit4802
      @riskitforthebiscuit4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Primacy E
      Already for sale here in Australia for EVs and Hybrids

  • @UTArch1
    @UTArch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wish you had discussed cost. I found that EV tires are significantly more expensive than "regular" tires. And cost is a major factor for most people in their buying decisions.

    • @ThePandafriend
      @ThePandafriend 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it rather obvious why EV tires are more expensive? All that R&D put in for a smaller amount of customers. Plus it's more challenging to make good EV tires.
      In addition to that the materials differ. But the latter is probably a smaller part of it all.
      I can't answer wether all this justifies the difference fully, but even though it might be a bitter pill to swallow for some, saving on tires should be one of the last things you should do.
      Keep in mind that cars are tools with the potential to cause a lot of harm to both the passengers and also other traffic participants.

  • @jt4403
    @jt4403 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the wonderful video to explain.
    could I understand a little better - shouldn't the load/weight rating of the tyre already help address the issue of heavier cars? what is that specific difference that makes an EV tyre more supportive of an EV car's weight than a high/extra load rated 'normal' tyre?
    I'm thinking of choosing between the Pirelli P0 PZ4 (PNCS, Elect) "102W" and the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 "102Y" - both "XL" for the size 245/45/R19 on the Polestar 2. The minimum load rating in the owner's manual is "99". Which would u recommend then for better handling and cornering?

  • @alastairwright2929
    @alastairwright2929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My concern is no spare tire, range anxiety is one thing what about tire anxiety in the Australian out back?
    Are they run flat?

  • @saqs
    @saqs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How do you always read my mind!? I’ve been thinking this for a while.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I follow you everywhere you go

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Every Breath You Take" starts playing.

  • @fts3865
    @fts3865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hankook have done a great job with the s1evo3 ev. Btw I think you didn’t mention comfort?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Comfort was mentioned, slightly better on non-ev, and they sure have :)

    • @fts3865
      @fts3865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews thanks! Must have missed it. Would be interesting to know the rolling resistance levels. I would say the EV must be around 6.

    • @aeroline11
      @aeroline11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrereviews I am currently using S1 Evo3 non EV. Although it is performance tyre but the tyre isn't stiff but yet it still provides great handling in concern and feel planted at highspeed. Value for money!

  • @yamafanboy
    @yamafanboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've never seen acoustic foam in non-EV tyres. Is the acoustic foam option available from Michelin tyres?

  • @joetheprogrammer0
    @joetheprogrammer0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reviews for Nordic winter tyres for EVs? I noticed that Nokian have a model Hakkapeliitta 10 EV, so was wondering if there are other options and how they compare

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've not seen any, but the hakka 10 is doing well in tests!