I'm a gamer. I love playing VR games. If they get a good catalogue of VR experiences, release some real controlers, sort out the weight imbalance, increase the FOV, increase the hand tracking speed, give us a battry strap to remove the wire and lower the price a bit more, I'd be tempted, as it stands I can't justify it. I really hope that it does grow up some more though as I think that what they have done, it looks to do reasonably well, but for that price, I'd expect those points to be fixed too. Sticking with Quest 3 for now.
Btw. This was an excellent video giving some great insight into Vision Pro in the best possible way given how difficult it is to relate without having one to experience ourselves. Like you said. 😊
Jason, I got to say. You have made a complete 360 on this device. But ya know, I honestly respect it so much and I think this literally demonstrates Painfully Honest Tech! You had to try it and you’re idea and thoughts of the device changed. It was amazing just to see you so raw and honest. You got my respect, support, and sub man. Thanks my G for such an informative video!
Sounds like someone trying to justify their purchase to me. Surely you'd be impressed from the get go and then the novelty would wear off in a few weeks if that wasn't the case.
@@josephformosa9471 sounds like someone is a broke moron. You're projecting. People who are so quick to call others broke never have any money (or even a job most of the time). Reflecting? I think you mean "projecting" (remember when I called you a moron? This is part of the reason why) Now have a word with yourself and consider your actions because you my friend have been dealt with 😂
You don't buy it ONLY for what it could or maybe will be. You don't buy it ONLY to do ONE thing. If you hear someone's example use case and say, "Well I don't need to do that, so this thing is worthless!. Worthless, I say! Worthless," then you're missing the point. There are many things you can do now. Other things you'll be able to do soon. And there will be surprises, with new things you can do that you didn't expect. My first computer came with no software other than a BASIC interpreter. I had to write a program in order to get it to do anything. I could save programs to cassette tapes. Eventually I got a disk drive. I got more programs to run. I got a technical manual that told me where I could Peek and Poke to make it do cool things. For years that computer with 64KB of memory got more and more useful to me. Then I upgraded to a computer with 512KB of memory, that also got better and better for years.
I’m glad you are enjoying the device but I hope they drop the price in future iterations. This is definitely more of niche product. Most people will have fun with it the first week and then realize they don’t end up using it as they thought.
Thanks for a good discussion. I could see this being my next “iPad”. Rather than upgrading my iPad m1 which is doing just fine, I could consider this. In many cases I think it would replace what I do with my iPad, but not quite all. Though I mite find it does replace my iPad.
I don't believe that you're sold on the device in its current state, and it appears that you've fallen into the aspirational trap of what it could be or might one day become. Kudos for testing it out as it is. Can't wait to hear someone admit that no one knows if the Vision Pro will be capable of or not capable of or if it ends up as a niche product as I believe it will be now and for the foreseeable future.
Vision Pro is an incredible first effort. With the typical "first generation" pain points. Some people want an iPhone 15 in 2007... which was never going to happen. You can't get to a $1000 or $1500 Vision product if you don't start here. I look forward to the Vision _____ products of 2028 or 2031. They're gonna melt faces. I sent my almost 70 year old mother into Apple to try AVP. And... she calls me after. "Mike I never curse and I cursed in that store." This lady was never going to use a Meta Quest 3 for VR games, but she'll someday buy a Vision Pro, when it doesn't cost twice her 3 months of food.
As 63 year old who has had a eye on tech advancements since i watched star wars as a teenager in 77...i can see this device changing the way we live and interact in years to come.. wether it's a good thing or a bad thing...time will tell!!!.👽
It been an interesting journey with the Vision Pro, finding out what it does best and what the limitations are. I'm still excited to see where Apple decides to go with it and future updates
Can I ask. Is your prescription like for really severe nearsightedness and also farsightedness (like you need reading glasses). Like are you wearing progressive glasses in your normal glasses? I have really high prescription progressives in a custom high index lens. Just wondering if Apple could even support my prescription.
I know a lot of us are waiting for a better value down the line. I do find myself curious about what peripherals might be introduced. The iPad was introduced on the premise that your fingers were all that was needed. Then the Apple Pencil was introduced and eventually the Magic Keyboard brought the iPad to its full form. We know Apple won’t just copy the same controller format everyone is doing, so what will that look like?
you will always be my favorite reviewer...Totally insane and hilarious all the time...But a person who truly is trying to be so real, and I love you for it....while struggling with the reality of being a smaller channel not always easily being able to buy everything which you would if you were rich....Most of us get it.....If I had tons of money I would give you some of it, but alas I can just afford to be a mere subscriber....
I find that it pretty much at this point replaces both the ipad and appleTv for me. There will always be a place for my mac studio 3d animation and applevision pro development and laptop so i really think this slots in-between and i’m not nearly as excited for the oled ipads now that i have this.. might just skip using an ipad
Why does it seem like the more Vision Pro vids I watch that the emperor in the parade looks more & more to have no clothes? I know the Vision Pro is a *nice* headset (shouldn't anything that costs $3,500 be nice!!?!). It just seems to be much ado about nothing. I haven't heard any well articulated reason why the AVP is truly worth it. What's the magically reason, the X-factor, that makes it so compelling? To date, not one user of the AVP has been able to present a case and lay down the evidence. The naked truth: the Vision Pro is just an expensive AR headset that does AR things.
Sure you are right about us already existing in a closed world with our smartphones. I think we should be working on getting out of that world and back into real life rather than to move further into it. Will this device maybe make us more aware of the people and things around us or draw us further away?
The fact that you change your mind, and are honest about it, is actually a feature. This is supposed to be the point of everything in this space. That you can't or shouldn't change your mind about something, or that it should have some kind of reputational cost to do so is, I'm guessing, a bug of tribalist ideology. The very point of formulating an opinion in the context of changing information is that it can/should change. People get screwed hard all the time by this in poker, for a real world example.
I think what people are missing about AVP is Vision OS. It's not just another VR headset and people completely miss the platform Apple is trying to start. IMO Vision OS itself is the killer App, it's the bedrock for Apple's idea of the next step in computing. Their vision of the transition from the 2D GUI interface to a 3D spatial computing interface.
The bedrock for the next step they are trying to start. It's still a VR headset. Being able to put multiple 2D screens in a VR environment isn't a great leap forward. I am eager for the next step, I'm not eager to pay Apple for it before they've got it ready.
It's primarily an AR set, not VR, to enhance productivity. Problem is workers are already too productive with multi monitor or split display setup. So despite the cool 😎 gimmick at first, are you really going to wear a $3,500 visual computer just to interact with existing equipment? I think 🤔 not. Even for diehard Apple 🍎 fanboys. 😳
@@paulburke336 "I'm not eager to pay Apple for it before they've got it ready." That part reminds me of all the nearsighted folks for every consumer device that has come before. Costs and not ready is one of those low hanging fruits excuses I hear often for so many many things that have come before. It tells me the person can't see beyond what's right in front of them. I'm surrounded by things that never would have become mainstream if people with your view were the ones deciding their fate. I'm so grateful that there are early adopters who aren't nearsighted like you. Who will buy and push things forward.
@@alphaomega1351 If money were no object, I would, but I typically don't have that luxury so wait a few generations for new tech to get cheaper and the perk is it develops in that time. As a tech enthusiast, it's always exciting to see things that comes along and challenge my views of the status quo.
I know that the Vision Pro and the Quest aren’t on the same level. But I can easily afford the Quest. I watched this video on my iPhone SE 3 that I’m still happy with, so I don’t think the Vision Pro is for me. Thanks for the review!
There's a lot to love... especially for a first gen. My advice is... don't go try one. Or any VR headset you have will seem like a plasticky piece of garbage. Unless you're into VR games, *which I am not.*
Great video and it mirrors a-lot of my own feelings on the product. I like you was 100% returning it the first week as I was not too impressed. The reason I was unimpressed because I was forcing it to do something it wasn’t ready to do. Once I started using it more and integrating it into what I wanted to do, it clicked. I do believe this is the future of computing. Is it a perfect device, no not by a long shot. There are lots of room for Improvement. However it is the most advanced piece of tech I have ever used and it incorporates really well into my workflow. It’s not for everyone and it’s not meant to be at this stage. It is not at all for gaming but for work productivity. It helps out my workflow so it’s worth it to me. My workflow is entirely windows based as well, I do not own a Mac. On top of my workflow improvements I get the benefit of excellent media consumption whenever I get time. For gaming or casual media consumption you’re much better off with the alternatives. Which are all great in their own way. To me this isn’t a replacement of any of those other VR/AR devices but a new product line that sits beside them. It’s really something you need to spend a large amount of time with to understand it. To use it for a day or two isn’t going to impress most as they won’t get to wrap their head completely around the device. It’s something that continually gets better with use. Is it expensive yes it is but to me it’s worth it. It’s a high end top of the line the line piece of tech from Apple. I wouldn’t expect it to be cheap or affordable at this stage. Just as I wouldn’t complain about Porsche or Ferrari Pricing. Future generations/iterations will eventually bring the price down. I do believe this is going to be a longer time frame than most think. This is an aspirational product at this stage in its life. This product will only make the other products better and push AR/VR further. Once again great review/perspective on the product.
Great video. I believe you. A viewer can learn a lot about a product and what it can do by watching tech TH-camrs, IF you know what to listen for. Apple is NOT profitable for tech TH-camrs with the ONLY benefit being early access. The rest of the tech industry is completely different, flyovers to beautiful locations, sponsors videos (2-15k I’ve heard whispered) and GIVING devices away. Possibly “offending” brands you have or want to have a relationship with can get you slowly shut out. So when you hear one compliment Apple, believe them, they have absolutely nothing to gain. Except the respect of the outnumbered Apple users looking for “honest” reviews.
It's a VR headset. It covers your eyes and you see everything through it. Standalone VR has been around for about a decade. I can see from the videos (I'm in Canada, can't buy it yet), the Vision Pro has very high end screens, does amazing eye tracking and hand tracking. But, after all this time and development by Apple I'm surprised they didn't manage to do better in weight and comfort, or even battery life (the Oculus Go battery lasted 2 to 2 and a half hours). I can connect my PICO 4 to my laptop and have multiple monitors, Vision Pro launched with one monitor from a MacBook. In my mind it appears unfinished and I would not spend $3,500US in the hope of where it goes from here. For that kind of money I want a lot more than potential. But I'm sure it's really good.......
I still think based on your description you have to be extremely interested in Apple's vision, or products to pay roughly 10x what the competition is charging. Insanity.
Where do we draw the line from Ai to people walking in the streets with vision pro. I think it's all going to backfire on people if things don't change with regulations.
I know practically nothing about this. However, Apple's new product track record is 3- to- 4 years before it is reasonably functional (more of a mature product). Like the Apple Watch, functionality is hobbled to allow annual update hype, and for early adopters to buy it multiple times
My side of that, hopefully, is that that was then, and this is now? Fingers crossed that it’s different this time the pace of everything else feels like that could be so within the garden and without.
@@marcsequence I’m sure it “will be” a great product in the future. However, this is mostly a novelty item with limited functionality. Apple will add major capabilities with new models. The original model is on a fast track to dreadful obsolescence. But if you are a developer, it is essential to get it now.
It’s a great product now of course that’s opinion. Just like the rest of it. It does everything I already do it. That was sort of the point that’s always their point fluidity they were always gonna have me anyways, but they’ve since lunch and yes, I’m past my return window already add improvements and capabilities with new software updates let alone new models to be on the cutting edge involves blood sometimes I just hope trades are digestible or I’ll finally decide to keep and start collecting overtrading in every other year or so lol highly recommend the demo @@GeologyDude
I can easily afford it but I don’t a use other than watching movies. The demo at the store is awesome. It blows your mind. But how many movies can you buy and watch? Also. I can’t review my photos from Google photos. I can’t even view my 11K photos on my iPhone without moving them to iCloud and paying another $10 per month. There needs to be a way to transfer them over WiFi. And as windows user, we aré screwed.
You can airdrop photos to Vision Pro. But also I once made the mistake of using Google Photos instead of paying for iCloud only for my pictures to be heavily compressed and to lose quality when I deleted them from my iPhone. Never again.
The price is so absurd I don't even care what it can do, personally. As far as I saw from many (positive) reviews, none of its features justify the price in any way shape or form. Also for that price it seems to have some serious missing things to be a well rounded device. In fact, for that price it should have a metric ton more stuff to it.
You’re looking at it the wrong way - what the AVP can do is probably about 10% of the cost of the device - the other 90% is made up of R&D, manufacturing and the tech in the device - Apple did well to keep the cost down to $3500 could have been a lot more
My recommendation is don't even try it... or you'll find the need. And it'll leave a crater in your bank account. It's *absurd* and obsoletes the iPad in particular.
not to brag, this is for people as myself who already own the most difficult things home/car...at this point in life you already have all the things you want inside your home the houses it all. im still working..so every month my savings continue to grow "nothing is being subtracted by it other than bills you can never pay off" if you were this kina person that apple is looking for..what else do you do with your money? im just adding avp to my collection of things that interest me... Now having said that...what does it add to your life ? well as of now late february you can have a tv take up your whole wall in crystal clear 4k...OR augment your reality and watch it in a theater or outside in one of the environments "more to come by apple" you can also augment your home digitally...replace the windows in your home with beautiful scenes..in my master br it looks like im sleeping at a space station like in star trek cause i see space outside..in the kitchen area i replaced the window with scenes from a jungle...living room area like im at a beautiful beach. you can place lifelike 3d objects all around...example i have a 3d model of a lambo in my driveway.. i have it overlay my regular nice paid off car..so i have the illusion i can touch it.. and when i walk outside my front yard i can see that lambo if it was actually there...its things like that what avp can do..its augments your reality..is it needed...No..its just for fun/luxury..but if you can afford it an have nothing else to pay down..its a fun toy to have..thats the audience apple is looking for.
Guess not quite there yet...high price, no comfort, lack of games, no controllers, limitation of browsers, no native Netflix or TH-cam apps, and so on....
you can turn it off and restart by enabling assistive touch in accessibility settings under the interaction option. a little bulls eye appears and you can single tap or double tap, click device, then click more and the option to shut down or restart is there. the little icon stays with you until you shut down the app then you need to re enable it
Great video as always. Thanks for your review. I enjoy my Vision Pro the more and more I use it. It's truly a glimpse into the future. By Gen4, this will take over the world
Jason awesome review. If you were trying to win the popular contest you’d die on the hill that everyone wants you on, instead you have the humility to admit when your prospective has been shifted. The Vision Pro is not like any other piece of tech, you do need to spend real time with it to completely grasp the entirety of what the vision is, stands for, does and the many doors it opens. Telling someone you can actually pick up a virtual file and drop it in a folder like a physical object with your hands or how you can use the Virtual space as a blank canvas and paint all around you your research and ideas as you brain storm would go right over someone’s head if they’ve never done it before. For me 3 weeks in. I barely touch my iPhone at home, I lose track of it often now, I’ve thought about selling my iPad Pro. The Apple Vision Pro has added tranquility to my work when I’m working on my Mac when I’m in the environments. By the way you can say “Siri, restart Apple Vision Pro” and it will restart.
what's more awesome is having 4k in your account... but I'm not a hater so if you think it's worth your 4k then enjoy. It's your money spend it as you feel. Highly doubt u would be saying this if this were a Samsung headset... but it's your money so enjoy
We get it - the experience is super immersive. But at $3,500, it’s also meant to be a super exclusive one. I say good for those who can afford it and enjoy it and good for those who are not willing to part with that money for a device with so many trade-offs, starting with facial discomfort and subpar pass through cameras. I am sure there’ll soon be a cheaper device on the market that will deliver the same experience at a fraction of the cost. Probably not by Apple though.
@@JC012732 An exclusive product has to exclude, that is keep out the unworthy average Joe. But there have been so many products that were so exclusive and so prohibitively expensive that they never took off.
I haven't tried the AVP but I will say, hand tracking is just not a great way to interact with a vr interface. I feel like I have orders of magnitude more control with motion controllers compared to hand tracking, maybe we will get tracking rings (for your fingers) or tracking wrist bands that close the gap , it seems to be critical to the speed and accuracy, maybe the polling rate is too slow, maybe has to do with the cameras not being able to see thru your hands, unfortunately hand tracking is not magic, it works as well as I expected it too
I can't help but all the videos about Vision pro make me feel WTF people with absolutely no imagination who discovered VR technology that has been with us for decades but they just noticed it now... except for a few fields where it definitely has good uses unlike but I don't see a future for them in the same way that I didn't see it with the 3D TV boom a few years ago.... they say there is also a future, films will not be shot in any other way than in 3D :D:D:D hahaha who offers 3DTV today, which was recently the the future and every TV manufacturer knew what they were going to sell in 2024 and now NOBODY knows that 3DTV was a failure and it's the same with VR
I have a critique that this channel is just Apple content + Samsung phones... And that's most of tech TH-cam... Looks like majority just live in a dystopian world 👀
Jason, your videos are very interesting but, in my humble opinion only, you lose a certain amount of credibility when you keep changing your mind over devices.
I would completely disagree. The ability to take in new information and adjust your opinion instead of stringently holding on to one particular opinion is a strength.
Dogmatically adhering to one worldview despite new experiences or information is much less credible than changing worldviews based on new experiences and information.
I think what he’s trying to say is that dude always talks a bunch of shit and writes stuff off before even giving it a chance, then gives it a chance because it’s his job, then has to sit there and eat crow. I would think he’d learn by now.
This Vision pro will not be for everyone and will not have enough sales where it will replace the iPhone. Apple will keep raising the price of every new vision pro that comes out and accessories cost extra instead of coming with it. Then they are going to offer subscription services for it that nobody will be able to afford. This is a product that very few will be able to afford and I can't afford having a son with special needs
Here's the deal I really need your help with this guys cause I'm really struggling. I'm having a really difficult time with Apple right now I have all their products I have the Apple Watch Ultra which I really like probably my favorite Apple product and then I have my iPhone 15 Pro Max Win terabyte I have a MacBook Pro I have a 2018 iPad Pro Still works great but here's my issue. There's no multitasking on my phone which is killing me and my iPhone 15 Pro Max feels exactly like my iPhone 13 Pro Max, which felt like my iPhone 11 felt like my iPhone X and so many ways. I don't know if I'm going crazy, but it's really hard to buy the same phone over and over again and Siri is complete garbage and I really want company is going to lean into AI and also lean into strong features like multitasking and things that Samsung is doing and I think someone said it when they said Apple wants to sell you multiple products so if they make one product better than the other product, you might just buy one product. I feel that way about the iPhone if it were as good as the Samsung phones with multitasking in AI maybe wouldn't buy that tablets me know your thoughts I'm just getting bored with Apple and I feel like they never really innovate that much and I'm use all their default apps because I try to support the stock situation but I really find myself bored. Let me know if you can help me through this, I wonder if I should get a Samsung S24 ultra or S25 ultra down the line to feel something different. Have you guys ever felt this way here's another thing voice texting on iPhone is painful. I remember having android phones and really appreciating how accurate the voice texting was that actually actually bumps me out about Apple to. Also, how can you sell? A premium smartphone has to have such a terrible assistant. Siri literally feels like they just forgot and literally don't care anymore. Thoughts 💭 make it make sense I didn't wanna leave Apple, but I feel like apples leaving me and it's really hard to make sense of it all right now.
If you want to do multitasking on a phone, you'd be better off with a fold or equivalent, for more screen real estate. While any android phone can do multitasking, you are really limited to split screen, or floating apps, but it can be fiddly on the average smartphone screen.
I’m all Apple too but I don’t buy as frequently. iPhone 12 mini, Apple Watch Series 5, 11” iPad Pro (2018), 13” M1 MBP. Consider not buying a new Apple product until it’s gonna change the way you use it. These products are so great that they actually have a longevity to them that others don’t. I have to imagine that you don’t buy a new car as soon as the next model comes out, and you might start considering these feats of technology in a similar way. That money can be put to new experiences and when you do actually upgrade, the incremental updates consolidated are amazing. I guess the fundamental question to ask before you upgrade is “is my current device failing me in some meaningful way. Does this new device solve that?” I hope you’re able to find some peace and some contentment, because you actually have in your possession what only 1% of the world can really afford to have. Don’t get bogged down by what your peers have or what you see online as it’s a miracle to live in a time where we can experience all this. Literally stuff our ancestors could never dream of.
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In it's current state and form factor, it's for entertainment and light productivity
The more I use it the more I love it I can never see myself going back to working without it
Are you keeping it or returning?
You hope that he returning it because the product is so advance that your poor brain cannot comprehend it
Can’t wait to see the 3rd or 4th iteration of Vision Pro.
I'm a gamer. I love playing VR games. If they get a good catalogue of VR experiences, release some real controlers, sort out the weight imbalance, increase the FOV, increase the hand tracking speed, give us a battry strap to remove the wire and lower the price a bit more, I'd be tempted, as it stands I can't justify it. I really hope that it does grow up some more though as I think that what they have done, it looks to do reasonably well, but for that price, I'd expect those points to be fixed too. Sticking with Quest 3 for now.
Btw. This was an excellent video giving some great insight into Vision Pro in the best possible way given how difficult it is to relate without having one to experience ourselves. Like you said. 😊
Jason, I got to say. You have made a complete 360 on this device. But ya know, I honestly respect it so much and I think this literally demonstrates Painfully Honest Tech! You had to try it and you’re idea and thoughts of the device changed. It was amazing just to see you so raw and honest. You got my respect, support, and sub man. Thanks my G for such an informative video!
How long until OLED burn in show on vision pro?
Never, iPhones don’t burn in for a very long time
It’s funny vision pro first day or two is like hmmm ok. Then after you figure it out 3-4-5 days later. You like omg it’s awesome.
Sounds like someone trying to justify their purchase to me. Surely you'd be impressed from the get go and then the novelty would wear off in a few weeks if that wasn't the case.
sounds like someone is broke and reflecting to me. if you cant afford it just say so.
@@josephformosa9471 sounds like someone is a broke moron. You're projecting. People who are so quick to call others broke never have any money (or even a job most of the time). Reflecting? I think you mean "projecting" (remember when I called you a moron? This is part of the reason why) Now have a word with yourself and consider your actions because you my friend have been dealt with 😂
@@josephformosa9471 It's "projecting", fool. And you're the one doing the projecting. Nobody believes you have money (or a job).
@@josephformosa9471 That someone who is broke and is "reflecting" (it's projecting btw) is you. Nobody believes you're not broke yourself.
What's the point of buying a product for what it could or maybe will be, I may as well buy a pen and get the ink later
You don't buy it ONLY for what it could or maybe will be. You don't buy it ONLY to do ONE thing.
If you hear someone's example use case and say, "Well I don't need to do that, so this thing is worthless!. Worthless, I say! Worthless," then you're missing the point. There are many things you can do now. Other things you'll be able to do soon. And there will be surprises, with new things you can do that you didn't expect.
My first computer came with no software other than a BASIC interpreter. I had to write a program in order to get it to do anything. I could save programs to cassette tapes. Eventually I got a disk drive. I got more programs to run. I got a technical manual that told me where I could Peek and Poke to make it do cool things. For years that computer with 64KB of memory got more and more useful to me. Then I upgraded to a computer with 512KB of memory, that also got better and better for years.
I’m glad you are enjoying the device but I hope they drop the price in future iterations. This is definitely more of niche product. Most people will have fun with it the first week and then realize they don’t end up using it as they thought.
Thanks for a good discussion. I could see this being my next “iPad”. Rather than upgrading my iPad m1 which is doing just fine, I could consider this. In many cases I think it would replace what I do with my iPad, but not quite all. Though I mite find it does replace my iPad.
I don't believe that you're sold on the device in its current state, and it appears that you've fallen into the aspirational trap of what it could be or might one day become. Kudos for testing it out as it is. Can't wait to hear someone admit that no one knows if the Vision Pro will be capable of or not capable of or if it ends up as a niche product as I believe it will be now and for the foreseeable future.
Vision Pro is an incredible first effort. With the typical "first generation" pain points.
Some people want an iPhone 15 in 2007... which was never going to happen. You can't get to a $1000 or $1500 Vision product if you don't start here.
I look forward to the Vision _____ products of 2028 or 2031. They're gonna melt faces. I sent my almost 70 year old mother into Apple to try AVP. And... she calls me after. "Mike I never curse and I cursed in that store."
This lady was never going to use a Meta Quest 3 for VR games, but she'll someday buy a Vision Pro, when it doesn't cost twice her 3 months of food.
As 63 year old who has had a eye on tech advancements since i watched star wars as a teenager in 77...i can see this device changing the way we live and interact in years to come.. wether it's a good thing or a bad thing...time will tell!!!.👽
It been an interesting journey with the Vision Pro, finding out what it does best and what the limitations are. I'm still excited to see where Apple decides to go with it and future updates
I believe it’s OK to change your mind. At least you’re being honest about it rather than going the long around to explain.
Can I ask. Is your prescription like for really severe nearsightedness and also farsightedness (like you need reading glasses). Like are you wearing progressive glasses in your normal glasses? I have really high prescription progressives in a custom high index lens. Just wondering if Apple could even support my prescription.
I know a lot of us are waiting for a better value down the line. I do find myself curious about what peripherals might be introduced. The iPad was introduced on the premise that your fingers were all that was needed. Then the Apple Pencil was introduced and eventually the Magic Keyboard brought the iPad to its full form. We know Apple won’t just copy the same controller format everyone is doing, so what will that look like?
you will always be my favorite reviewer...Totally insane and hilarious all the time...But a person who truly is trying to be so real, and I love you for it....while struggling with the reality of being a smaller channel not always easily being able to buy everything which you would if you were rich....Most of us get it.....If I had tons of money I would give you some of it, but alas I can just afford to be a mere subscriber....
I find that it pretty much at this point replaces both the ipad and appleTv for me. There will always be a place for my mac studio 3d animation and applevision pro development and laptop so i really think this slots in-between and i’m not nearly as excited for the oled ipads now that i have this.. might just skip using an ipad
Why does it seem like the more Vision Pro vids I watch that the emperor in the parade looks more & more to have no clothes? I know the Vision Pro is a *nice* headset (shouldn't anything that costs $3,500 be nice!!?!). It just seems to be much ado about nothing. I haven't heard any well articulated reason why the AVP is truly worth it. What's the magically reason, the X-factor, that makes it so compelling? To date, not one user of the AVP has been able to present a case and lay down the evidence. The naked truth: the Vision Pro is just an expensive AR headset that does AR things.
Sure you are right about us already existing in a closed world with our smartphones. I think we should be working on getting out of that world and back into real life rather than to move further into it. Will this device maybe make us more aware of the people and things around us or draw us further away?
The tech and auto industry is filled with negative, edge of my seat and suspenseful titles on TH-cam.
The fact that you change your mind, and are honest about it, is actually a feature. This is supposed to be the point of everything in this space. That you can't or shouldn't change your mind about something, or that it should have some kind of reputational cost to do so is, I'm guessing, a bug of tribalist ideology.
The very point of formulating an opinion in the context of changing information is that it can/should change.
People get screwed hard all the time by this in poker, for a real world example.
I think what people are missing about AVP is Vision OS. It's not just another VR headset and people completely miss the platform Apple is trying to start. IMO Vision OS itself is the killer App, it's the bedrock for Apple's idea of the next step in computing. Their vision of the transition from the 2D GUI interface to a 3D spatial computing interface.
The bedrock for the next step they are trying to start.
It's still a VR headset. Being able to put multiple 2D screens in a VR environment isn't a great leap forward.
I am eager for the next step, I'm not eager to pay Apple for it before they've got it ready.
It's primarily an AR set, not VR, to enhance productivity.
Problem is workers are already too productive with multi monitor or split display setup.
So despite the cool 😎 gimmick at first, are you really going to wear a $3,500 visual computer just to interact with existing equipment? I think 🤔 not. Even for diehard Apple 🍎 fanboys. 😳
@@paulburke336
"I'm not eager to pay Apple for it before they've got it ready."
That part reminds me of all the nearsighted folks for every consumer device that has come before.
Costs and not ready is one of those low hanging fruits excuses I hear often for so many many things that have come before. It tells me the person can't see beyond what's right in front of them.
I'm surrounded by things that never would have become mainstream if people with your view were the ones deciding their fate. I'm so grateful that there are early adopters who aren't nearsighted like you. Who will buy and push things forward.
@@alphaomega1351
If money were no object, I would, but I typically don't have that luxury so wait a few generations for new tech to get cheaper and the perk is it develops in that time.
As a tech enthusiast, it's always exciting to see things that comes along and challenge my views of the status quo.
MacTX, time will tell my friend, time will tell
I know that the Vision Pro and the Quest aren’t on the same level. But I can easily afford the Quest.
I watched this video on my iPhone SE 3 that I’m still happy with, so I don’t think the Vision Pro is for me. Thanks for the review!
Why am i not surprised 🤣 of course he loved it, its an Apple product 🤷🏻♂️
There's a lot to love... especially for a first gen. My advice is... don't go try one. Or any VR headset you have will seem like a plasticky piece of garbage. Unless you're into VR games, *which I am not.*
Great video and it mirrors a-lot of my own feelings on the product. I like you was 100% returning it the first week as I was not too impressed. The reason I was unimpressed because I was forcing it to do something it wasn’t ready to do. Once I started using it more and integrating it into what I wanted to do, it clicked. I do believe this is the future of computing. Is it a perfect device, no not by a long shot. There are lots of room for
Improvement. However it is the most advanced piece of tech I have ever used and it incorporates really well into my workflow.
It’s not for everyone and it’s not meant to be at this stage. It is not at all for gaming but for work productivity. It helps out my workflow so it’s worth it to me. My workflow is entirely windows based as well, I do not own a Mac.
On top of my workflow improvements I get the benefit of excellent media consumption whenever I get time. For gaming or casual media consumption you’re much better off with the alternatives. Which are all great in their own way. To me this isn’t a replacement of any of those other VR/AR devices but a new product line that sits beside them.
It’s really something you need to spend a large amount of time with to understand it. To use it for a day or two isn’t going to impress most as they won’t get to wrap their head completely around the device. It’s something that continually gets better with use.
Is it expensive yes it is but to me it’s worth it. It’s a high end top of the line the line piece of tech from Apple. I wouldn’t expect it to be cheap or affordable at this stage. Just as I wouldn’t complain about Porsche or Ferrari Pricing. Future generations/iterations will eventually bring the price down. I do believe this is going to be a longer time frame than most think. This is an aspirational product at this stage in its life. This product will only make the other products better and push AR/VR further. Once again great review/perspective on the product.
Vision Pro is a must have for watching movies on a plane.
Great video. I believe you. A viewer can learn a lot about a product and what it can do by watching tech TH-camrs, IF you know what to listen for. Apple is NOT profitable for tech TH-camrs with the ONLY benefit being early access. The rest of the tech industry is completely different, flyovers to beautiful locations, sponsors videos (2-15k I’ve heard whispered) and GIVING devices away. Possibly “offending” brands you have or want to have a relationship with can get you slowly shut out. So when you hear one compliment Apple, believe them, they have absolutely nothing to gain. Except the respect of the outnumbered Apple users looking for “honest” reviews.
It's a VR headset. It covers your eyes and you see everything through it.
Standalone VR has been around for about a decade.
I can see from the videos (I'm in Canada, can't buy it yet), the Vision Pro has very high end screens, does amazing eye tracking and hand tracking.
But, after all this time and development by Apple I'm surprised they didn't manage to do better in weight and comfort, or even battery life (the Oculus Go battery lasted 2 to 2 and a half hours).
I can connect my PICO 4 to my laptop and have multiple monitors, Vision Pro launched with one monitor from a MacBook.
In my mind it appears unfinished and I would not spend $3,500US in the hope of where it goes from here. For that kind of money I want a lot more than potential.
But I'm sure it's really good.......
I still think based on your description you have to be extremely interested in Apple's vision, or products to pay roughly 10x what the competition is charging. Insanity.
Yeah you shouldn’t really get eye strain in vr because you never have your eyes focus like they do when looking at a monitor or phone.
Where do we draw the line from Ai to people walking in the streets with vision pro. I think it's all going to backfire on people if things don't change with regulations.
I know practically nothing about this. However, Apple's new product track record is 3- to- 4 years before it is reasonably functional (more of a mature product). Like the Apple Watch, functionality is hobbled to allow annual update hype, and for early adopters to buy it multiple times
My side of that, hopefully, is that that was then, and this is now? Fingers crossed that it’s different this time the pace of everything else feels like that could be so within the garden and without.
@@marcsequence I’m sure it “will be” a great product in the future. However, this is mostly a novelty item with limited functionality. Apple will add major capabilities with new models. The original model is on a fast track to dreadful obsolescence. But if you are a developer, it is essential to get it now.
It’s a great product now of course that’s opinion. Just like the rest of it. It does everything I already do it. That was sort of the point that’s always their point fluidity they were always gonna have me anyways, but they’ve since lunch and yes, I’m past my return window already add improvements and capabilities with new software updates let alone new models to be on the cutting edge involves blood sometimes I just hope trades are digestible or I’ll finally decide to keep and start collecting overtrading in every other year or so lol highly recommend the demo @@GeologyDude
You’re like Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets…. and I love you for it
I can easily afford it but I don’t a use other than watching movies. The demo at the store is awesome. It blows your mind. But how many movies can you buy and watch? Also. I can’t review my photos from Google photos. I can’t even view my 11K photos on my iPhone without moving them to iCloud and paying another $10 per month. There needs to be a way to transfer them over WiFi. And as windows user, we aré screwed.
You can airdrop photos to Vision Pro. But also I once made the mistake of using Google Photos instead of paying for iCloud only for my pictures to be heavily compressed and to lose quality when I deleted them from my iPhone. Never again.
18:52 “it’s like comparing a Toyota Corolla versus a ‘Cyber’ Truck 🛻 they are both CARS but they are way different..
Uh, what? Lol 😆
The price is so absurd I don't even care what it can do, personally.
As far as I saw from many (positive) reviews, none of its features justify the price in any way shape or form.
Also for that price it seems to have some serious missing things to be a well rounded device.
In fact, for that price it should have a metric ton more stuff to it.
You’re looking at it the wrong way - what the AVP can do is probably about 10% of the cost of the device - the other 90% is made up of R&D, manufacturing and the tech in the device - Apple did well to keep the cost down to $3500 could have been a lot more
Apple would have spent a decade and billions of $$ to get this from a drawing to the real device we see today
Is “cool” worth almost $4,000?
YES!
But maybe not to you.
It's painful at $4000 *but it would be backordered for months* at $2000.
@@kevinbailey8827 I’m glad you have more money than common sense.
Even if I could afford it I don’t see how Vision Pro would add to my life. I have my phone, watch, tablet and MacBook. What else do I need?
My recommendation is don't even try it... or you'll find the need. And it'll leave a crater in your bank account.
It's *absurd* and obsoletes the iPad in particular.
not to brag, this is for people as myself who already own the most difficult things home/car...at this point in life you already have all the things you want inside your home the houses it all. im still working..so every month my savings continue to grow "nothing is being subtracted by it other than bills you can never pay off" if you were this kina person that apple is looking for..what else do you do with your money? im just adding avp to my collection of things that interest me...
Now having said that...what does it add to your life ? well as of now late february you can have a tv take up your whole wall in crystal clear 4k...OR augment your reality and watch it in a theater or outside in one of the environments "more to come by apple" you can also augment your home digitally...replace the windows in your home with beautiful scenes..in my master br it looks like im sleeping at a space station like in star trek cause i see space outside..in the kitchen area i replaced the window with scenes from a jungle...living room area like im at a beautiful beach.
you can place lifelike 3d objects all around...example i have a 3d model of a lambo in my driveway.. i have it overlay my regular nice paid off car..so i have the illusion i can touch it.. and when i walk outside my front yard i can see that lambo if it was actually there...its things like that what avp can do..its augments your reality..is it needed...No..its just for fun/luxury..but if you can afford it an have nothing else to pay down..its a fun toy to have..thats the audience apple is looking for.
Guess not quite there yet...high price, no comfort, lack of games, no controllers, limitation of browsers, no native Netflix or TH-cam apps, and so on....
Well done Jason. However, I don’t think the Vision Pro is for me now
Watch avatar 2009 in 3D on the cinema mode on front row balcony. It’s insane. Just as good if not better than when I saw it imax 3D
Cap. Not possible to be better than in imax 3D. It just isn't.
I will wait until it gets there. it's too much money to spend to be a beta tester!
you can turn it off and restart by enabling assistive touch in accessibility settings under the interaction option. a little bulls eye appears and you can single tap or double tap, click device, then click more and the option to shut down or restart is there. the little icon stays with you until you shut down the app then you need to re enable it
From other reviews can't record movies as well, maybe an anit-pirate thing
SCTV! I have to try to find the skit, I don't remember that one!
Great video as always. Thanks for your review. I enjoy my Vision Pro the more and more I use it. It's truly a glimpse into the future. By Gen4, this will take over the world
Not at $3500 it won’t
@@techware1840 it is for me
Yep, that was a painfully honest flipflop, for sure! 👍
How does someone watching free videos get so cynical. I've been making videos for 10 years and seriously, all I get is shit. It's effing tiring.
Jason awesome review. If you were trying to win the popular contest you’d die on the hill that everyone wants you on, instead you have the humility to admit when your prospective has been shifted. The Vision Pro is not like any other piece of tech, you do need to spend real time with it to completely grasp the entirety of what the vision is, stands for, does and the many doors it opens. Telling someone you can actually pick up a virtual file and drop it in a folder like a physical object with your hands or how you can use the Virtual space as a blank canvas and paint all around you your research and ideas as you brain storm would go right over someone’s head if they’ve never done it before. For me 3 weeks in. I barely touch my iPhone at home, I lose track of it often now, I’ve thought about selling my iPad Pro. The Apple Vision Pro has added tranquility to my work when I’m working on my Mac when I’m in the environments.
By the way you can say “Siri, restart Apple Vision Pro” and it will restart.
Why didn't I think of that? Oh, I never use Siri. But I keep hoping she'll get better.
Remarkably usable?
Wow, I’m sold.
Wow, that's great.
what's more awesome is having 4k in your account... but I'm not a hater so if you think it's worth your 4k then enjoy. It's your money spend it as you feel. Highly doubt u would be saying this if this were a Samsung headset... but it's your money so enjoy
We get it - the experience is super immersive. But at $3,500, it’s also meant to be a super exclusive one. I say good for those who can afford it and enjoy it and good for those who are not willing to part with that money for a device with so many trade-offs, starting with facial discomfort and subpar pass through cameras. I am sure there’ll soon be a cheaper device on the market that will deliver the same experience at a fraction of the cost. Probably not by Apple though.
Exclusivity is kinda the point huh? “In order for everyone to have, everyone has to want it first”
@@JC012732 An exclusive product has to exclude, that is keep out the unworthy average Joe. But there have been so many products that were so exclusive and so prohibitively expensive that they never took off.
Bring back the Power Glove, After that we’ll have iShoe 🤓
It’s totally okay for one to change their mind isn’t it …
I haven't tried the AVP but I will say, hand tracking is just not a great way to interact with a vr interface. I feel like I have orders of magnitude more control with motion controllers compared to hand tracking, maybe we will get tracking rings (for your fingers) or tracking wrist bands that close the gap , it seems to be critical to the speed and accuracy, maybe the polling rate is too slow, maybe has to do with the cameras not being able to see thru your hands, unfortunately hand tracking is not magic, it works as well as I expected it too
You spent 20 minutes repeating the same old crap 💩. 😳
So you watched the whole thing? Thanks!
I’m glad you got here and gave this product the proper pht treatment.
I can't help but all the videos about Vision pro make me feel WTF people with absolutely no imagination who discovered VR technology that has been with us for decades but they just noticed it now... except for a few fields where it definitely has good uses unlike but I don't see a future for them in the same way that I didn't see it with the 3D TV boom a few years ago.... they say there is also a future, films will not be shot in any other way than in 3D :D:D:D hahaha who offers 3DTV today, which was recently the the future and every TV manufacturer knew what they were going to sell in 2024 and now NOBODY knows that 3DTV was a failure and it's the same with VR
Wait for it to launch in 🇩🇪
I have a critique that this channel is just Apple content + Samsung phones... And that's most of tech TH-cam... Looks like majority just live in a dystopian world 👀
Personas are amazing. What is wrong with people?
This this is so uncomfortable to wear after like 30 mins. Makes it unusable unfortunately
Love your content, my guy!! Keep up the great work!!
I want to use the vision pro with my s23ultra how can i
Vision Pro sucks..
Big cheque arrives from Tim Apple.. Hey Vision Pro is great.. 🤣 Only joking Jason..
Despite a lifetime in IT, starting at the beginning of the original IBM PC, i couldnt be LESS interested in this VR nonsense, toys for posers
Tell that to Zuck 😂😂😂
That man is pooping his pants right now.
Jason, your videos are very interesting but, in my humble opinion only, you lose a certain amount of credibility when you keep changing your mind over devices.
I would completely disagree. The ability to take in new information and adjust your opinion instead of stringently holding on to one particular opinion is a strength.
@@haikaido OK that's a fair point, but it's not my view.
Dogmatically adhering to one worldview despite new experiences or information is much less credible than changing worldviews based on new experiences and information.
I think what he’s trying to say is that dude always talks a bunch of shit and writes stuff off before even giving it a chance, then gives it a chance because it’s his job, then has to sit there and eat crow. I would think he’d learn by now.
@@Crs664
He's a flip flopper! And flip floppers are evil 😈 doers! 😳
for watching "movies"...mmh hmmm
You were on a ‘Vision Quest’! 😂
I see what you did there.
vision going to replace the ipad, iphone and studio display
the same as smartphones replaced laptops?
This Vision pro will not be for everyone and will not have enough sales where it will replace the iPhone. Apple will keep raising the price of every new vision pro that comes out and accessories cost extra instead of coming with it. Then they are going to offer subscription services for it that nobody will be able to afford. This is a product that very few will be able to afford and I can't afford having a son with special needs
Jeez man I'm almost 3 minutes in and you're just saying the same thing over and over lol get to the point
Double tap to seek exists, dude. And if you're on PC, your right arrow key exists.
Here's the deal I really need your help with this guys cause I'm really struggling. I'm having a really difficult time with Apple right now I have all their products I have the Apple Watch Ultra which I really like probably my favorite Apple product and then I have my iPhone 15 Pro Max Win terabyte I have a MacBook Pro I have a 2018 iPad Pro Still works great but here's my issue. There's no multitasking on my phone which is killing me and my iPhone 15 Pro Max feels exactly like my iPhone 13 Pro Max, which felt like my iPhone 11 felt like my iPhone X and so many ways. I don't know if I'm going crazy, but it's really hard to buy the same phone over and over again and Siri is complete garbage and I really want company is going to lean into AI and also lean into strong features like multitasking and things that Samsung is doing and I think someone said it when they said Apple wants to sell you multiple products so if they make one product better than the other product, you might just buy one product. I feel that way about the iPhone if it were as good as the Samsung phones with multitasking in AI maybe wouldn't buy that tablets me know your thoughts I'm just getting bored with Apple and I feel like they never really innovate that much and I'm use all their default apps because I try to support the stock situation but I really find myself bored. Let me know if you can help me through this, I wonder if I should get a Samsung S24 ultra or S25 ultra down the line to feel something different.
Have you guys ever felt this way here's another thing voice texting on iPhone is painful. I remember having android phones and really appreciating how accurate the voice texting was that actually actually bumps me out about Apple to. Also, how can you sell? A premium smartphone has to have such a terrible assistant. Siri literally feels like they just forgot and literally don't care anymore.
Thoughts 💭 make it make sense I didn't wanna leave Apple, but I feel like apples leaving me and it's really hard to make sense of it all right now.
If you want to do multitasking on a phone, you'd be better off with a fold or equivalent, for more screen real estate. While any android phone can do multitasking, you are really limited to split screen, or floating apps, but it can be fiddly on the average smartphone screen.
I’m all Apple too but I don’t buy as frequently. iPhone 12 mini, Apple Watch Series 5, 11” iPad Pro (2018), 13” M1 MBP. Consider not buying a new Apple product until it’s gonna change the way you use it. These products are so great that they actually have a longevity to them that others don’t. I have to imagine that you don’t buy a new car as soon as the next model comes out, and you might start considering these feats of technology in a similar way. That money can be put to new experiences and when you do actually upgrade, the incremental updates consolidated are amazing. I guess the fundamental question to ask before you upgrade is “is my current device failing me in some meaningful way. Does this new device solve that?” I hope you’re able to find some peace and some contentment, because you actually have in your possession what only 1% of the world can really afford to have. Don’t get bogged down by what your peers have or what you see online as it’s a miracle to live in a time where we can experience all this. Literally stuff our ancestors could never dream of.