I Love the Vision Pro Because its Flawed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2024
- Marques explains why he's enjoying the Apple Vision Pro.
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I'm waiting for the Apple Vision Amateur
Fax im like on hobbyist level budget
Apple Vision Poor is more my speed 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 or even Rookie
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 dead
Bru is jus gon b swimming goggles with apple logo on them
I feel like apple should add support to cartoon/personalized eyes, same with the FaceTime avatar.
buy 2 bug googly eyes and stick to the glass
@@lukeItsAmeMArio yes
The Vision Pro has made tech exciting again. Can’t wait to see how it evolves but the price must be reduced. Roll on the 2nd gen.
I don't think the price will be reduced. It will just like the apple Iphone 1. When it came as 500 dollars at the beginning and from then the price went up.
Things they need to add, first answering iphone calls like on an ipad or mac. Second, some kind of Face ID unlock maybe with the eyesite screen so your iphone can be unlocked while wearing the vision pro.
I like these ideas!
Just tried a demo, the eye and hand tracking is definitely the biggest feature to me. For the average person this makes such a big difference vs other headsets. I know it's not the first to do any of that, but just the ease of use and way it's presented.
It is kind of heavy on your face, that's a very fair critique.
The way it locks things in space is spacially is also really impressive compared to other headsets I've tried.
At the end of the day though this kind of feels like a super immersive iPad. Meaning it's great for content consumption and the same kinds of stuff most people use an iPad for.
I can see it turning into a more versatile device with a few iterations and more time for app development.
Also, spatial video will be a popular application once everyone can shoot it on their phone.
Aboout the eye and handtracing... All I've seen is it's a little better then grab and poke with quest 3 not to mention controller hands which are OP but when you use the quest 3 like AVP by having your hand at your side is only 20% worse but the pro is you only need one hand not a htwo hands and eyes... So the AVP control sceme is far worse that Quest in use even but new users as you can't just reach out and interact with a menu like attablet/phone... you must do this super convuloted thing instead which even VR enthuists don't all use easly.
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I've become more and more impressed with vision pro, glad they joined the game. Can't wait to see Google's/Samsung's spin to it
I have no hope in Google but I'm sure Samsung have something worthwhile in their sleeves
@@toututu2993 onky for movies...but AR no...as long as videos in android are bad
If I’m not mistaken, it’s meant to be a collaborative effort, @@toututu2993
Some can’t wait for new tech and then when we get it they can’t wait to pick it apart. I think this is an excellent first step for Apple attempting spatial computing with all its flaws. Can’t wait for the next step.
Half the team: just take the headset off when you're talking to someone.
Everyone under 30: still text each other in the same room.
I had a demo at my local store, this thing really wow me, it's the most amazing piece of tech I ever try in my life yet, this is the most exciting thing apple ever released yet, it's like you have the IPhone, Mac, IPad, AirPod, apple TV and more in one piece of tech, it might not be for the mass public yet, it's still not perfect, it's a first generation product, it might feel weird to use in public but if you really into tech, love apple products and don't mind dumping thousands of dollars on it, trust me you will love it.
Will definitely get one myself, this is truly the feature.
The feature is now!
I'm waiting for the Apple Vision ULTRA
MKBHD did NOT give the Quest 3 or Pro this much attention. There were people waiting for lots of reviews.
That's what happens when a visionary product comes out vs. a gimmick from Mark Zuckerberg
@@youtubeviewer4489is this even a real comment? You mean a copycat product?
Facts. The paychecks speak volumes
Maybe the team didn’t think it was gonna perform well? Maybe he personally just didn’t find the Q3 interesting enough to put time into it?
@BrandonTalbot 🤣 With the amount of time devoted to blatant shilling for Apple... this is related to Apple paid up and Meta didn't.
I own both headsets. The Apple device looks sleeker and has better cameras... while doing 1/5 of what the Quest 3 can do. These videos have been advertisements masquerading as podcast segments.
Do you find it rude to look at someone through sunglasses? Or is it the potential for content to be in the AirPods or Vision Pro despite Eyesight or Transparency mode that bothers you?
Just one question how long do you think it will take for Apple to change the design just buy a little bit
5:27 flawed comparison. Why the hell is it blue?
Great analysis on the historical impact of it all
If steam rv could be run natively on the vision pro i’d happily find 3500 for one .
That ad reality screenshot is wild. It's so blue and blurry in real life!
yessir im early and i love that this isnt the ceiling for tech. cant wait for it to get lighter, more functional, powerful and more discreet.
The 2nd gen AVP is going to be 🔥
I feel like a lot of the issues with this are fixable. Even stuff that seems integral to the device -- typing only in the window you're looking at. Does it actually have to be that way? Surely not. You could have a setting where you click somewhere to type and the cursor stays there until you click a window, like on a Mac. You could even come up with some kind of toggle system where you turn on or off the eye following, kind of like how you do an orientation lock on an iphone, or the little mute switch on the side. This could be a gesture, a tap on the side of the Vision Pro, or even like a ring you wear with a physical button on it or something. There are a lot of ways they could modify this to make these things less annoying.
True
I looked at a button on my office computer and tapped my fingers 😂. My AVP was at home, not at the office. It’s happening.
$2500 version without outside display
The problem with people is “new innovations” only last 1 year, and then it’s back to being boring. When Apple Silicon came out, it was hyped, and then M2 came out, and no one cared anymore. Same with folding phones.
So much like the Newton, or the earliest computers. I look forward to whoever comes up with the Visicalc, the Photoshop, or whichever of the VisionPro.
Vision Pro lowkey reminds me of the iron man suit interface
I’m kind of upset no one ever compares this to the HoloLens from back in the day. It had a lot of things that the Vision Pro does “new”. I’ve got one MKBHD if you want borrow it
Not only that, after Kipman got fired most of the HoloLens team left for Apple or Meta. Without mentioning the history of this market, a lot of these videos/reviews come off as less than comprehensive and accurate.
It'd be disingenuous to talk about the invention of the first iPhone and not mention the Blackberries and the Palm Treo's that came before it; to me this seems like a similar level of omission.
7:22 lmaooooooo
You can blue tooth keyboard with the Vision Pro
I look at Mac’s keyboard while I type
(hot tech) I waited for mkbhd phone1 for 4 years!
Any one notice the battery pack (and cable) are transparent? Not on home screens but with all other content! Go figure.
It is amazing tech with several cool features. But after the initial testing period I cant stop thinking if the Vision Pro is something I will prefer watching videos, surfing the web, typing text, writing emails or calling my friends with. Or will it just be a very expensive gaming VR headset and useless except as a show off for us who dont play.
I continue to be amused by revisionist history on the first generation iPhone. I was working at a cell phone manufacturer at that time and I will attest that the iPhone 1 completely changed the industry within a week of launch. Everyone was trying to figure out how Apple did it and how to rebuild their portfolios. Those that didn’t don’t exist today.
Knock this down to $750 and I'd be willing to set myself back 5 years in the VR space for a 4k image.
it is really worth that price. check competitors, ahh there are non actually with those specs
@@mike_33gtspec wise it's way ahead of all the competition, but capability wise it's the same of not behind more recent quest, vive, and valve headsets
@@mike_33gtto me it's really not worth the price. I can just buy a quest 2 (which I did) and play the games and have the entertainment for only a few hundred dollars. If you're such a big apple fanboy, you should absolutely know that it's more than just the specs. 🤷♂️
Meta Quest = weak mobile chips.
Vavle Index = Overpriced ancient techs even when it released for 1 year.
I cannot buy Vision Pro I had to admit but it is quite amazing of a product with a propper pc chips and far better interface menu than your regular limited 3 screens stuck together like the Quest which could be a lot better with update
You know the quest 3 is $5009 and has 4k screens right? They are not just micro OLED which is super expensive right now just look at TVs.
29 yr old here: Nah I'd take them off (Same as headphones with passthrough). It IS kinda rude - whether they're trying or not, it definitely makes the live interaction more difficult for both people.
"Just take it off" - couldn't agree more! Real eye contact, and attentive listening are basis for effective and respectful communication, and are things we cannot afford to lose...
Eyesight does not matter, it’s a gimmick, we don’t need conversations about it
I hate this thing because it's perfect ...
The glazing is actually crazy Marquez
I dont think phones are boring. It's just people always look at Iphone and similar products. All the foldables have (had) different and interesting approaches. Especially regarding the UI.
It looks more like a new area of Zombie Matrix
So did Apple over hype and set expectations too high for the AVP. Would it be better if Apple played down the AVP and let the first experience beat the expectations of Gen 1 buyers. Two different Marketing approaches did Apple choose the right one?
I think they were disingenuous about certain aspects of it for sure.
Do you tell people or everyone to take off their sunglasses because it’s rude? What if they are legally blind?
I am waiting for Apple Vision Ultra, so I can see TH-camrs telling how flawed it is.
The future update would definitely support multiple Mac screens and probably apps like Spotify projecting from Mac to the vision pro as a standalone app
I think there's a word missing at the end of this video's title. "I Love the Vision Pro Because its Flawed Release." Then your its would be correct.
Seems so crazy to me that people are howling over a 3500 spatial computer but love 2000 folding phones
Folding phone that brings more problems than the features. Nice device I guess. Wouldn't even bothered to get it for free 😒
it’s not expensive guys!!!
The VR AR wars has started lol. Watch meta release something soon too.
Yeah the haterd between the Apples and littlery everyone else is intense and kinda ruined how chill XR was till now.
I sight is a bad idea in this way I wish they used symbols or un realistic eyes on a regular screen to cut costs and perhaps make the headset lighter
google glass?
I agree with the boomer take on headphones but I would definitely keep my headset on. So Eyesight has to stay and be improved.
Yes, it’s something Apple did different because the last five years they’ve been sleeping. The problem is when you have competition like the quest three that is almost as clear as division pro but with so much to do it’s a hard sell. And yes, I own the quest to the quest three I had to quest pro. I have the PS five VR, and I actually have, the Apple Vision Pro, although not sure if I’m going to keep it because after playing with it for two hours, there was nothing left for me to do. Yes, I like the cool little dinosaur movie but it was four minutes long and it was only one and yes, you could watch regular 3-D movies But I’m not wearing this big thing which isn’t so comfortable after two hours to watch a movie I’m just not I have big screen TVs in my house and everyone could watch it with me and I could watch movies on my quest three. I downloaded some games on the Vision Pro and the Lego game was one and it was terrible. It was like a virtual reality game from back in the day and I know you could download a race car for your living room again something in 10 minutes you’d be bored to death. I’m gonna get out my review in the next few days of an average person not a TH-cam mega star who gets these things for free so they don’t need to have any value somebody who actually paid for it and somebody who has all the other VR systems to compare it to they were really only a very very little bit clearer than the quest and I say very little. I like the material but that material also makes it very heavy. It’s metal and glass. For an average person like me, if I do not return it all you could hope for is they come out with something cool before your glasses get outdated and the second version is out. I’ll tell you not having controllers is a big deal doing everything with your fingers is not as smooth as everyone makes it seem to play real games you need controllers version two will probably come with controllers because without them you’re missing the biggest segment in VR, which is the games I don’t care what anyone else tells you working with these on all day is not comfortable or practical actually the met quest three a little more comfortable than the vision pro the Vision Pro hurt my nose almost right away. Hopefully I get my real world review out in a few days and I’ll let everyone know if I’m keeping it and I actually found something else to do with it or will I keep it with the hopes of something new Coming or will I just return it stay tuned.
the eyes on the outside screen are not the actual eyes but eyes from the 3D avatar !
Hence the reason to make the outside screen barely visible .. so you cannot make out.
There is no way to show actual eyes on outside screen.. even with cameras tracking eyes within.. without projecting lights onto them. 😎
Hey, respect the boss or you’ll be fired 😅
When will iHealth be available to cure the blindness this will cause? I don't recall any doctor in the history of man kind telling anyone to hold their phone 2inches from their face for several hours a day.
I don’t agree that this is a MacBook on your face, it’s more or less an iOS/iPadOS on your face that is limited, I’m still frustrated that my M1 iPad cannot run Ubuntu or Parsec or VMware, or full Davinci Resolve or After Effects even though it’s technically capable!
That’s exactly the problem with Vision Pro! It’s an M2 chip computer that can’t run Virtual Machine, install Premiere or blender. It can’t even create multiple user accounts on the same device!
Pretty sure it just came out, so there are decades of development ahead for your wishes to come true.
@@PumpUptheJam81bro, multi user computers are around us since the 90's. It's not that hard. Even a 300$ toy like the Nintendo switch let you have multiple users on the same device.
If apple is selling this as a "Spatial computer" then let me have a computer. If not, it's just a glorified iPad
@@marcospenadev I remember my first 486SX too. I just don’t understand your complaint when this is the Apple path for years. Sure, they could have spared us the suspense and left out the “computing” marketing drivel. But this is just as personal a device as an iPhone, which does not even have a guest mode (AVP does btw to at least showcase the tech). If you allow multiple user accounts you don’t sell as many units. Besides, I don’t want to share my face computer thing with other humans with unique face shapes for the seal, or optics for my glasses etc.. The iPad sucked for work stuff for years until the last few years when developers finally started taking IOS more seriously (and it is still behind many desktop counterparts). Just relax, it’s a toy as of right now that none of us actually need, bro.
@@PumpUptheJam81see, that's the problem. It's clearly a mobile device and a gimmick toy but they're marketing as "spatial computer" and a boost in productivity.
As OP said, even with tablets you don't have many options for professional software beside creators and office work.
What ecosystem? Itself?
Like by it's self it's a youtube internet box... in the apple tree it's an ipad.
When the iPhone launched it was a huge hit and Steve Jobs helped kill Flash by coming out against it
I’ve noticed Mac dislike is usually from the people who prioritize gaming. They cannot comprehend how anything so terrible at gaming can be considered “good” and (gasp) cost more! Now it’s moved over to the Vision Pro. It’s not a gaming headset and it doesn’t even try to be and yet, people are saying it’s BETTER than the Quest. Spatial computing will one day include gaming but after watching over 10 years of gaming headsets, Apple decided it was time to introduce spatial computing headsets.
/Anyone who don't do stuff you can do on a crome book... Like My 2021 windows workstation that cost $6k back then would anlate any mac at anything really including gaming.
I want to see this with out the need for a headset or some kind of implant.
Then we are on to something. I love tech but there is a part of me that feels the more we rely on tech
the less we evolve our DNA and rely on the Tech rather than create ways to adapt and overcome.
I have watched people in car wrecks, who have been told you are done, no chance.
Then a few days later a 90% recovery. That to me is what we are missing and
imo so long as its tech it will be sold and not free for people to learn.
Hopefully we wont lean on technology so much it eventually prove to ourselves
we are beyond the computers we make, yet have never learned to be human and rely on a PC
to tell us what processes are allowed and how to repair oneself.
How someone repairs themselves overnight is beyond me, and beyond a PC.
Yet it is a Human who repaired themselves..... I find this reality in-itself to be hard to math, yet it happens.
Remind me in 2027…
Expensive? I dont think version 2 will get any cheaper. Lol. Apple will be charging 5k for it soon.
Yeah... We all expect the boring things. Like 3d movies, games, 3d work space (not flat screens). And I never trust the promise of the future. Especially from Apple.
Lol. Double head strap.
It's not Its ;)
Sorry your 100% wrong on the old iPhone. I have it and if they would have kept up grading it I would still be using it. The new iPhones don’t even compare to the old one. The old games were so much more fun. They keep saying better but a big not! When you have to keep buying the new version of the game you been playing but it is not the same, and it is not more fun then the old one, it is less fun. All I ever hear from you is a cool new cameras the iPhone is getting, and how we want that. But I never heard anyone ever say anything about the cameras on any iPhone, or use the cameras on any of their iPhones. One a girlfriend for got her camera so she used her iPhone. When she got home I had to take her to print her photos. She loved the photos but she went right back to her camera for her next trip. All the people I meet only use the selfie camera on the iPhone, and that never gets a better camera. So keep saying we want better cameras. But I would love if they cared that we are missing half of my music and a way to take the music off our old iPhone and put it on our new iPhone.
All the apple fan boys here about to drop $3499 for a headset that can't do everything the $500 quest 3, hell the $250 quest 2 can do! Yeah, I'm just going to keep my meta quest and enjoy having a wider field of view and actually be able to use it for more things because while it can do hand tracking and AR, it can also do VR games because of the inclusion of CONTROLERS! Also, since the headset runs on android I can sideload any apps and games I want, instead of being stuck with the closed down ecosystem of IOS and its shit app store.
Apple must be paying you a lot to not only tell everyone how good their "FLAWED" product is but also wear them on a semi permanent basis, did you factor in the cost of new eyes and plastic surgeon to remove those inevitable dents in your cheeks ? 😉
Well at the very least it looks like they bought everyone Macbooks
@@YolkaholicProductions I'm sure he could always sue for facial injuries, or perhaps join a class action lawsuit 😆
6:30 I cant fuckkng see his eyes at all.
The macbook air m2 is faster than the vision pro
Apple releases a product that has odd design choices that make it limited in value: "Such courge apple!"
Anyone else makes the best product they possibly can with in hard current tech limits:"Ew, nasty peasant over there!"
Like where were you guys when Apple lunched the Apple Pippin which was an honest attempt as a game's console and was worth it because they tried... But died because it just wasn't Nintendo or a PlayStation... Like seriously where were you guys back then?
I'll just stick to my psvr2 and play my games lol
Wired to console and limiting with few softwares. Nice!
@@toututu2993 sure that's one way to think of it but the psvr2 is the only head where I can hand it to someone and see their gameplay on the TV or turn a game like Moss into a family activity or play all of my Playstation games on. The wire is a limit sure but you look less goofy when people can see what your doing.
@@deonrose6132 And how can other headset not be to do such basic features that any device including old flatscreen can do it too?
I love this clip because its title is grammatically flawed (It’s).
I am looking forward to the day when Marques takes those stupid Ski Goggles off....
" I love apple because there product is flawed " its 3500$ im sorry but this is ridiculous.
Mkbhd do mental gymnastics to justify Apple for everything they do
Seriously such a horrible take. These guys sold out for some overpriced ski goggles.
It should be "because Apple wants me to"
The functionality doesn't seem well integrated enough for this to really be more than a VR/ AR specific toy (for now); I feel like when I'm working/ trying to do something that I can already do on my laptop, the last thing I want is for a bunch of simple things like typing to seem disorienting and to give me a headache and hurt my eyes
Is basically Ipad, Iphone, Imac Macbook, and Iwatch combined but added more extra features. If this is not an amazing tech then you must had been visiting an alien planet with very advanced techs or something beyond that 😅
Apple boys being apple boys.
It’s just people into tech being into tech. Everything else is growing a bit stale.
7:25 I find it extremely rude, if someone tries to talk to me with one of these on, I will ask them to take it off and look me in the eyes lol
What like headphones, or you know glasses?
with both of those examples you can see the other person's eyes. And also if someone is talking to me, I take my headphones off.
@@ParchutingPanda Your not autistic I'd imagine etheir and you don;'t really with transitions or sunglasses or a vail, a hood, a hat a phone, sky goggles.
not sure what that would have to do with this
I think making eye contact with someone is respectful. I don't think you can do that without taking the Vision Pro off before talking to someone. That's my opinion. You can disagree. Have a nice day.
I believe we are all complaining about the wrong thing. They need to make it cheaper
🤔 Microsoft hololens is more useful... 👌
You can tell Andrew is anti-Apple, every single thing he said about the AVP was negative.
the ecosystem is making it even worse tbh
when apple removed head phone jack on phones everyone thought Apple is crazy this is stupid bla bla and look now.
Yeah Its fucking unpractical
They sold a bunch of Airpods instead?
They are trend setters.
Bro please stop with vision pro vodeos.
Meh this product is so niche and not revolutionary at all. Overpriced and overhyped goggles.
You love Vision Pro because you're Apple's pet
😅😂
Yeah how is the quest 3 not flawed yet is a great vauale? Like itf you like quicky stuff why not like the quicky stuff that is good?
Its overrated
futuristic
Just a bunch of apple fan, " great design "??? R u kidding me 😂