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If he claims to be a SEAL, yet looks like he ATE a seal, then he is pretty much full of it.
I can't remember what documentary I saw this on, or the exact numbers, but the line was something like, "There were only 200 SEALs that served in Vietnam, and I've met all 2000 of them..."
You are what you eat, so technically not wrong
Andrew Martin Jesse Ventura!
Dude you're hurting my stomach lol
I'd agree for the most part. I will say though, my exes dad and uncle both have quite the beer gut and were 100% SEALs during Desert Storm, I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen the pictures of them after BUD/s
The real heros are so humble. My old Jr. High teacher was a decorated marine who server in WW2 and Korea. We didn't know the extent of his bravery until the local paper did a story on him and his service. He was so unassuming and always downplayed his heroics. The real deal.
What did he teach in junior high
@@SuperPeterok He was a Printshop teacher. He taught us how to make block prints from linoleum and type setting. He was a great guy.
My Grandfather who used to be in the U.S military during WW2 used to say that the real heroes are the ones who never came back.
My guess is there is so much excessive stress in the experience and what Joe Benz said. Nobody who had the experience and lived _would_ brag about it; except those proud to have killed of course.
True statement. I’ve never met or known a true vet who bragged on himself. They don’t dress up in parade uniforms nor fatigues.
Stolen valor:
-Their stories are about "missions" they were on.
Anyone who has served:
-Their stories are about the people they served with.
Exactly.
This shit right here.
This blew me away how on point this is. I never thought about it
I 100% agree. People often ask me "What did you do in the service ?" I always answer "I served with some damn fine men". If it's a fellow service man/woman then the answer is "I embraced the suck". Their reaction tells me right away if the were in a combat unit so I don't have to ask them the same thing lol
So true
Most real vets I know, never..or rarely, talk about there service in public.
Yeah I had a grandfather that was in WW2 and I would try to get him to go our highschools Veterans Day stuff and he never would . Then Id try to get him to discuss his missions and he'd brush it off and change the subjects.
@@joshk4187 my dad was the same way. WW II Utah beach. He never talked to us about his experiences. After we served, he'd talk about it a little.
@@joshk4187 Get a few drinks in him around other vets. Some memories are not appropriate for recalling though.
@@fumblebunny1993 A bronze star is an amazing award and rarely seen [solute].
I never served food on a ship but I know that it is no easy task, with long hard work hours and limited resources.
Part of the reason I don't discuss duty with civilians is that it would be hard to explain without being descriptive and making short stories incredibly long. Even the training is a little hard to explain. It's a whole different world.
Very true Russ. However, I am a service-connected disabled vet and folks should beware of Jameson's advice in this video. I like Jameson, but here's where he's off a bit on his advice-
Most of the older guys wearing the veterans hats are usually vets. When you get older and you've been silent all of your life about your military service, you get a feeling of patriotism and sometimes want to wear a hat that displays that you served. I know, because after not telling anyone about my service for decades, I started to wear a veteran hat on occasion.
Now, some of the older vets who never went to Nam but served CONUS during Nam might embellish and wear a Vietnam Vet hat instead of an "era" hat as they should. But to say that most older guys who wear a veteran hat are stolen valor is just ridiculous.
Also, older Legion, DAV and VFW vets do sometimes wear their Class As to funerals or Memorial Day/Veterans Day events as they are allowed to by law.
If someone were to confront the wrong vet over their hat or uniform, they might end up with harassment charges or in a lawsuit if they did it in front of people to embarrass that vet.
So even though I enjoy some of Jameson's videos and I appreciate him trying to bring awareness to this, I think he should have thought it through better and been more specific in certain areas. The type of advice he gave in this video could land some people into trouble or in embarrassing situations if they don't know fully what they're doing.
Regards, John
When I started my training as a trucker. A driver in the yard claimed to be a “veteran”. He was a scout sniper and not just volunteered but was begged by his drill instructor right out of boot and then sent into a special sniper course. I cut him off and called his bullshit. The military doesn’t beg for anything. I was medically unfit but three of my high school buddies served. One didn’t make it back, one came back with massive head trauma and the other lost a leg and arm. My buddy who lost limbs called bullshit on that when I told him and wished he could meet that driver and embarrass him in a truck stop fuel island and tell him the true story of real soldiers. I can’t imagine how he felt. Once a year we all make a trip to Arlington to pay our respects and since my buddy with brain damage now lives out of state with his parents and sister, us two at least make a couple trips a year to see him. I can’t stand stolen valor.
Military can beg... but ya its exceptionally rare. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of things that are easy to disprove instead of relying on unlikelies. Let them tell u their story, at that point should be easy to disprove someone who didn't do something
@@chowjappa6470 I didn’t cut him off at that exact moment and did hear a whole line of bullshit. I meant to say I eventually cut him off and called his bullshit.
The Navy spent two years trying to get a friend to come back. That's begging.
@@stevenbrown7042 respect to you and your buddy 🇺🇸👍👍👍👍
I've met many Special Forces, Delta Force and Rangers. They seem to sit near me at bars. Who else notices that?
These guys would be a lot more believable if they claimed to be a cook or a refueler
I also noticed they like to sit close to you.. it's so weird
I’m not American, are you joking that stolen valour nobs sit close to you in bars because they need to lie to someone?
I’m a former force recon marine, green beret, and seal sniper served 8 years all before the age of 25
That’s probably not a good thing lol
When he’s wearing more medals than an African dictator
keith green ...Mexican Field Marshal
... than a north korean general
@@Flakehandler .... Arab Dictator
Soviet Era General
...any Democratic candidate that "served" in the NG
I havent been able to fit into my dress blues in over 20 years,im 76 years old and my biggest " exploit " was winning the hot dog eating contest at my VFW hall .
Haha. Keeping it real.
And that's how you got the call sign "Dog Pound".
@@richardm3023 Nope,i got the call sign Pants Shitter lol
Thank you for your service.
TV., but you did your time and served. Besides that, hot dogs are health food, right. Semper Fi.
My father was not a great war hero, but saw action in the Korean War. He never did the stickers on his car, no KW license plate, not hats or jackets. He never hid the fact, but never bragged about. Just an average man getting on with his family and life.
My dad was in the Korean war too, he was in the Navy, like 47'-53' ?, don't know if he was in any battles, but he was an Engine Man, 1st class petty officer
He was born in 1928
I'd talk about my exploits but nobody wants to hear about endless hours of standing watch in the engine room.
Army? Navy? Or puddle pirate?
I would take the engine room over transferring fuel any day. Sitting there having to watch the gauges is mind numbing.
@@briteidea08 Navy. Nuke MM on a carrier.
@@o1mtbiker Uh, guess what you do standing watch in the engine room?
themosh54 I guess that would depend what type of ship you where on. I was on a cruiser and we had to sit at a counsel in ccs. Main 1/2 didn’t do anything except take readings once an hour and oil samples on the balls watch.
The best way to tell if it is *Stolen Valor:* Listen to them.
_Never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake._
Thank you, Napoleon.
Why dnt u hist stop doin this GROW up for flipsake
Nice! I like that.
@Michael DeSanta that is a wonderful tip
great quote, from the art of war
another dead giveaway: boot laces not tucked in.
google one. more running shows in bdu's
I'm a sea cadet and even I know that's a big no-no
I know, at least from my time in the Corps, we tucked our laces in... the whole point was to prevent them from getting caught in supplemental wire...
Ask them their military number and see what type of response you get.
@@JamesonsTravels seen manus a real squaddie wearing training shoes. Thems the ones with a laminated biff chit. Lol
Just because a job is not glamorous, doesn't mean it's not important. For example, being a cook on a ship in the Navy is a very important job. Sailors and Marines need good nutritious food for the ship to function properly.
A guy I met in college back in the '70s was a Vietnam vet. He spent his whole time working in a warehouse, making sure that the right equipment and supplies that came in from the states got sent to the right units. The only time he fired a weapon was a pellet gun at the rats. I don't think you could say his job was glamorous, but it sure was important.
Any job becomes honorable by being necessary - Robert A. Heinlein ( an inexact quote). Your friend's job was very important. Lives literally depended on his decisions in that warehouse.
Gordon Talge FACT. You don't fuck with the cooks or the supplies people.
@@killianoshaughnessy1174 Yup, without them, the combat MOS are fucked. Hard to fight when you have no ammo, no intel, no food, no base and no equipement.
I'm a 92A, Automated Logistics Specialist, (fancy for "quartermaster") in the Army Reserves. The stories I've heard from my Drills at basic training (who were also 92A and Y) along with cooks, 88M's... the list goes on. I can tell you that just about anyone is trained to fight should the need arise. Only 1% of the total U.S. population is in ANY of our armed forces branches COMBINED. That's not much to work with. So when shit hits the fan we all have to be trained and ready for just about anything. Upside is you're guaranteed to at least see some action at any given time, downside is if you don't want to well you're shit out of luck. I haven't been deployed yet in the three years I've been in but you bet your ass I'm ready to go in with all the 11 series guys.
92A; Supporting victory!
@@johnwotek3816 Cozy up to the cooks, you'll get an extra slice or a bit more of whatever they're serving. Cozy up to the supplies people and they won't hassle you with all the fucking paperwork. 😂
I'm a marine and about 60 lbs overweight. Not only do I not fit in my blues, but even if I could I would never wear them being so sloppy looking.
I'm a Vet and I can tell you that many of my operations were on dogs and cats.
Hahaha.....priceless
Noice
took me a second, nice one
Military should pick em up and take them to a special boot camp for a month so they never forget what they did and call it the stolen valour boot camp
If a soldier shows up for Ranger or jump training with the Ranger tab or jump wings tattooed on them, the instructors don't let them drop out of training.
Same with BUD/S candidates in the Navy.
If you want to wear the Budweiser, Ranger tab &/or jump wings inked into your skin,you're gonna have to earn them.
doughesson
RIP to all the “seal snipers”
I bet they wouldn't even survive that.
@Raizen Cruer that's right when I was in serbian military I had a whole lot of visiting psychologist and psychiatrists and when I went to the recruitment center I had to see a psychologist as well they just don't give guns to anyone
A friend of mine got silly and got a tattoo that said "USMC" before going to basic... He said every time he going out of the shower they would take a sharpie or some sort of marker and scribble it out or put a circle around it with a line through it... I couldn't imagine what hell he would have went through had he not made it through. Lol.
I was ex Army and I still have not even one tattoo. I don't believe in tattoos or piercings. I have enough scars from childhood to last me a whole lifetime and I grew up in a strict household that didn't allow the crap people on their bodies these days. To me it was like I'd be disgracing God's temple. It was nothing less than a miracle I was even allowed in to the military with all the surgeries I endured as a child and through to the time I was 17 years old. My surgeries are still incomplete. I still have only a partial pallet with an upper prosthetic. But God gave me the military, it was all I ever wanted to do since I was 5 or 6 years old. And when someone tries thanking me for my service I STILL tell people thank a man/woman who has lost an arm or leg, they did more than I ever did...
This happens even with folks that were in. One of the guys in my unit, started lying bout him having been in Special Forces. Another guy in the unit that was close to him wondered why he unfriended all of us on FB & saw all these tall tales of guts & glory on his page. The group of us that knew him & served with him pretty much disowned stolen valor guy after that. What gets us, is that we were all Paratroopers in a line Airborne unit at Ft. Bragg which is bragging rights all it's own. Why he would lie & say he was Spec Ops still dumbfounded us.
my best friend, who i knew for 25 years, his dad was in ww2. thats all we knew, thats all my friend knew. after his dad died did we find out he was a ball gunner on a b-17.....flew 50 missions......was wounded 4 times.........never said a word about it
Sounds like my Grandfather. Served in WW2 in the Army, that's all I could ever get out of him. Asked him about missions, what he saw during that time, you name it. He would never tell me. I can imagine the atrocities he saw....
My Grandfather was the same way he was in world war two for 4 years he was a munitions driver .never talked about the war at sll.
Yea mine was a medic in WW2 and got 4 bronze stars. I didnt know that until I looked at his discharge papers 15 years after he died.
My daddy was the same way. All he would say is real heroes do not brag. He used to make us clean like crazy though. LOL
My ex girlfriends father was in Vietnam and never talked to his family about it. One night we were all at the kitchen table and I mentioned wanting to fly in a helicopter. He turned and said he flew helicopters in the war. It was the first his wife had ever heard that in over 20 years together. I felt honored that he shared that with me. I loved that man and miss him greatly.
most of my combat buddies DONT wear their gear anywhere anymore, and we don't talk about it
I never worn anything when I did not have to while. No less after I got out. I have some odds and ends sent from friends. Hat, t-shirt. Thats it.
Never really saw a lot of this until last few years when restaurants and stores started giving discounts or freebies for vets.
They usually want to see I'd now for vet discounts
@@mattfetter4123 In the stores they do. I've never been asked for ID in a restaurant on Veterans Day!
From my experience ex professional military are quite quiet about what they actually did.
Barbara Dyson yes they are. Never heard one bragging about himself.
@@vixen0347 yes. I know 3 ex sas and never in a million years would you know they were ex military. The only reason I know is cause my husband is ex military. The same applies to men who were in any type of war. It makes me laugh when I see these american films where the man has more bravery medals than xmas tree lights.
You're right mate. I did six years in an infantry battalion; two tours in Iraq and one in the sangin valley. I've hardly spoken about these times to any of my friends or family, because it's my business and I'm not proud of the some of the situations I was in. My mate was a royal logistics mechanic who did one tour at camp bastion, and he always used to brag about his time in Afghanistan in the pub. There's nothing special or heroic about doing your job well. Thousands have done it and we don't need to boast about it.
It's always the lads in the rear that are like this.
@@stevovimy bit unkind but know where you are coming from. My hubby was in the little unknown Omani war but would rarely speak about it. He was a Royal Engineer a wedgey.
I don't like to talk about it at all. When I do I start to choke up cause I miss my buddies.
I had one come knocking on my door asking for a handout he was dressed as a marine. He looked suspiciously young to be one and the uniform didn’t fit well , hat was too big baggy pants etc. I asked him what his mos was, didn’t answer I ended up scolding him for a stolen valor. Turned out he was a kid wanting candy and it was Halloween night. But boy did his marine dad left me a good shiner!
@@kisshooters69 military occupational specialty. Youre basically asking them for what their job was and the Code associated
Gotta laugh outta me
Agree with the rest, that was funny!
Many years ago (mid 80s) I was dating a girl whose father served in Korea and he rarely mentioned his military service apart from one night when he told me a little about his time in Korea.
You don’t shoot your mouth off about your service unless you are a liar or an arsehole imo.
I’m a Brit who never served but who has nothing but respect for those who served and gave so much for their country.
Eh that entirely depends on the person and what their service consisted of. I LOVE telling stories. But they're all stories of bureaucratic bullshit and me getting super fucked over by my chain of command most days or some shitty details. But yea, I suppose combat stories would be kept pretty hidden. Like I said, personality. Just look at Matt Best. Or anyone in BRCC for that matter.
So if they look like a Third-world dictator, probably stolen valor
good summation.
😂🤣 ok this got me
I’m a marine soldier with two air medals who served in the US Air Force’s Delta commando force, and I approve of this message.
Thank you for your service in the People’s Democratic Kingdom of the United Mongolia!
"Its harder to fake something then to actually be part of it" :Marcus Luttrell
I was in the CIA working for the NSA. I got a posthumous medal of honor on a secret mission but I can't talk about it.
Super secret squirrel sniper seal ranger recon here.
I bet some idiots believe you..."posthumous medal" Lol
@@lhcsmith2 Lucky he Didn't DIE To Get IT! LOL
Nice.
I served under Captain Crunch, Captain Marvel, Captain Kangaroo, AAAANND Captain n Tanille. Captain n Tanille was rough but I made it through.
One thing about the members of my family that serve or served is that they don't talk about horrible stuff they've seen, only the funny or lighthearted stuff. My father's only war story to me was about how he was in a foxhole in Korea and the man he was partnered with went into the hole first and jumped immediately out because a rat bit him in his rear end and how then the guy started screaming when he saw the size of the needle he had to get for rabies.
Yes. Lol. One of the stories my grandfather told was about a guy who recieved a purple heart at Anzio after he fell backwards while taking a crap and cut his butt cheek open on the ground.
The thing that gets me is if you get into a conflict with a person and they throw out (I'm ex-military.)
That gets my 🐐 every time. The family and friends I have who are or have seen any action NEVER talk about it. You have to pry it out of them.
The ex military guy is typically for of it.
So true.
My uncle (R.I.P.) was an original Screaming Eagle who jumped on D-Day- At the end of his combat tour, he was so full of shrapnel and bullets, the doctors couldn't believe he lived (we found this out after he died at the age of 90) . About 20 years ago I asked him to tell me about D-Day and all he said was, " They needed volunteers to learn how to parachute into combat and we did what we had to do. You know how it ends "
The LAST thing a Marine wants to do when he’s off is jump in his dress blues and roam around town.
they wanna bang chicks and run around naked to be free for the week or so they have left before they go back
@@nitroxylictv you obviously don’t know many Marines.
Yeah when I was in the infantry I took off my uniform ASAP and didn’t really even wanna hang out with soldiers
Damn corframs...
My wife's father served in the Pacific in WW2 ,, he never spoke about it at all.
Yeah, my grandfather fought in Okinawa and never told his family at all. He'd only talk about the occupation afterwards. I only found out when he mentioned it to me after I joined the navy. He had never even told my dad.
Most of us wouldn't understand. I talked one day to a former police officer and Marine who served two tours in Vietnam.
I listened to some of his stories. He started crying. I said, "You made it, man. Wasn't your time to go".
After a while he said to me, "You're the first civilian to understand me." Not quite..... I don't judge someone unless I've done what they've done. Any time I ever fought for my life was when I was behind the wheel of a car, someone did something foolish or malicious. You do what you gotta do. No more or less.
I hope that he's still alive. We meet up from time to time.
That is how you know. They never bring it up.
My dad was a pilot in the European theatre WWII. He didn’t talk about unless I asked and even then it was pretty brief answers.
We bring it up just not to civvies.
Stolen valor is literally the most scummy thing to do.
I one saw stolen valor, the guy was wearing the tomb guard ribbon, yeah real legit......
Those people have a real mental problem. Sad anyone would do that one.
Take Back The Holy Land real smart trying stolen valor with the second rarest decoration in the army
Masseffectdude Whats the rarest? Edit: Its the astronaut badge. I wonder if anyone has ever spotted someone wearing that lol
Rykehuss Army astronaut badge
Masseffectdude I just googled, the astronaut badge is not the rarest decoration. 17 people have been granted that badge, while only 10 have been granted the Military Horseman Identification Badge.
My father was a naval engineer in Korea war reinlist went to UTD training spent till 1961 when I was born my mother told him come home he never spoke of his experience,when he died,full Naval send off,he deserved this ,the man was a American Warrior,never will forget this
I was ashamed of my short term of service, I crushed my ankle in the Army in basic got done with basic went to AIT same base as basic out at ft. Sill. Was discharged on an uncharacterized discharge.
Was granted 30% for the crushed ankle still dont have a medical discharge. Was ashamed for years of how little I did. I was so down on myself, so many family members had given their all.
I'm related to Sgt. Baker who did earn a medal of honor in ww2, my grandpa got the navy cross, an 2nd cousin got the airforce flying cross and a purple heart in Vietnam after being shot down. So many heros in my family and I wanted a chance to be like them.
It was seeing these stolen Valor guys that made me so grateful for what I've given, and it helped me not be ashamed of my short service, it made me proud to give my ankle even if I did wish I could have given more.
I'm proud of my service today, and I'm glad im seen as a service member. I'm glad the Army finally to responsibility for my ankle which happened because I followed orders without question. For that I am not ashamed nor will I ever be again. I do feel sad for these men though sometimes mad.
Thanks for your service I wish i had more of a chance to give more. Yet I'm grateful I got the opportunity I had.
Hold your head up buddy
I dropped out of Marine Corp boot camp ten years ago. Only talked about my time in basic. My discharge was administrative non punitive. Yet I am confirmed by the VA.
You volunteered and were found fit to serve, only 1% of us do so. Injuries happen, nothing you can do. Thank you for your service🇺🇸
You are spot on. My brother's (rest his soul) wife married a guy who claimed to be an "Air Force Sniper/refueler" in Somalia at "Black Hawk Down." He claimed 11 purple hearts. Even more then the guy with the most purple hearts ever. I tied to look him up against the people who were there and (of course) nothing. My son and I, who is also a veteran, exclaim in a loud voice "Black Hawk Down" when ever we joke about him. Sad.
wow. 11 that is ambitious.
I had a SgtMaj (USMC) 3rd Mar Div tell me in squad leaders school (guest speaker toward the end of training) that the purple heart, his words now was "the enemies sharp shooter medal". He was a Vietnam vet and got shot in the ass, I think that is what he said or hip. Can't remember. Anyway, if this guy did actually get 11 PH medals, he is a fu&*ing walking target!! A purple heart is not something anybody WANTS to get. I can't imagine bragging about it unless you are a f*&* stick like John Kerry, bragging about 3 purple hearts he received in Vietnam
An observation. Back in 1972, when I was 17, I volunteered at the local VA hospital for the summer. (My dad worked there) I met and worked with a lot of Vietnam vets. Sometimes I would ask them about their service. They told stories about their training, about being yelled at by an officer or sargent. About the heat and weather in Vietnam. About going into Saigon on leave, the bars, the girls, the MPs. Stuff like that. They never talked about their rank. If you asked they would, but they never brought it up. Same with medals and awards. If you asked them they would usually say, "Oh, the usual stuff", then drop the subject.
Only rarely did they mention actual fighting or the enemy. If you asked them they would usually say something like, "Oh, yeah it got a little harry out there sometimes", or something along those lines.
The guys were mostly Army, some Marines. I also, met vets that had been horribly wounded, paralyzed from the neck or waist down. I never asked them what happened, and they never said. I just did my best to help them.
my dad's Vietnam stories were more about him fucking up and thinking he was the shit as a 17-year-old marine and how his superiors would put him in his place. he never talks about actual combat and but will talk your ear off about his time between deployments or as an MP.
Yes we rather talk about the good memories thx for helping us.Z
There is a federal law requiring any school receiving government funds to give recruiters access to the students. I'd like to see a law requiring all recruiting offices to be located at VA hospitals. Maybe then those who gave so much will start getting a fair shake afterwards.
Joe Kahno OR BETTER YET AT A BASIC TRAINING AREA!!
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SDI IS IN A SHITTY MOOD!!
LOL!
I was Agent Orange, yeah that was me......
bcask61 O.o
@@knightwind5967 uh oh
The question is, can you see? Haha!
Lol
Thats funny!
There are nutcases everywhere, but it seems more common in the US than anywhere else.
I was once sitting in a pub in England with my best friend (who is a real operator) and some weirdo started telling some BS stories about being in Afghan. My friend asked if he went swimming in the lake? He said yes and embellished the story. My friend smiled and let him tell his stories, then the guy left and my mate smiled at me and said ‘the lake is a huge pond of shit from the base latrines’. Enough said.
Some people are mentally unwell.
My cousin was in the SBS last time I heard. The only reason I know he was in the special forces and not just the Royal Marines was because our grandad slipped up when I saw a photo in his house of my cousin in Sierra Leone and asked him about it. I'd seen my cousin occasionally at family gatherings, but he'd never mentioned it once. Like you said, there are nutjobs everywhere, but it would stick out more here so less people try it on.
sasholsuma - he is currently a PMC.
Who said he was in the SAS?
And guys in the SAS are ‘troopers’ as they might come from any of the forces, not just army.
It’s more common in the US because it is the country that has the biggest boner over it’s military
I like how in England the veterans pin on their old medals during parades. They should do that in the US.
That’s the right way to deal with it. Low key let them realize you aren’t falling for it then have a laugh.
Looks like the 165 dislikes are the ones that got called out LOL!
Dislikes are funny. I could do a view about a puppy playing and there would be some. That view was pretty soft on the topic and still some don't like. If I am not getting dislikes it not TH-cam.
@@JamesonsTravels At the end of the day their dedication to show up in the first minute of release to click that button is a great boost to your viewer retention :') They're actually your biggest fans and they don't even realize it :p
I helped my buddy tend bar for many years. In that time i met about 150 Navy Seals.😂
I just smile, tell them thank you for your service and quickly walk away.
One night, a guy was freaking out saying he was having flashbacks from "Nam". I immediately called a friend of mine who served with him for tips to talk him down. My friend said "How can he have flashbacks? He worked as a cook with me."
😂🤣
Lmfao.....give me the ketchup earl
My dad was on Guadalcanal World War II his name's on the World War II Memorial he got a bronze star and a Purple Heart save a man's life but never talked about the war those are the real heroes
My father was very highly decorated in world war 'll I never learned about it till his funeral.
I've seen them both ways. Some are very stoic. But there's always those who will bore you to tears with their military stories. In the old Magnum PI the Estate Manager Higgins was portrayed as one of these people. Always talking about his service boring you to tears. I've known several people like this. I've even known a few like Cotton Hill (King of the Hill) "I killed Fitty Men" talking about all of the people they "Gutted" during the war. I knew a legitimate Ex-Marine who was awarded the Navy Cross and a silver star. Served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. And this guy wouldn't hold back. He'd tell you stuff that would make your hair stand up. And talk about it like it was a fishing story or some shit.
The guys who are really emotional won't talk about it. But some guys are just so emotionally calloused it doesn't bother them at all. The real old timers are the ones who have no feelings about it at all, the last time they allowed themselves to have any emotion was during the depression. These are the once common but becoming rare old timers who will blow your head off for spitting on his lawn and go inside and sleep like a baby.
So was my dad. 1st Amphibious Tractor Battalion. 1940-1945. He never said anything.
@@painterpeter1 thank him. For his service he still living?
@@painterpeter1 my dad gone
We'll talk about all kinds of things we did in training but nothing we did for real. I wear my 82nd hat when I go to Home Depot and someone thanked me for my service, I thanked him for his support. It'sbeen over 30 years since I served, but I am still proud of my service.
Everyone I ever took to jail that claimed to be a vet, claimed he was in some sort of special force or tier 1 outfit, if not then they were a sniper. I never arrested or contacted anyone that was a mechanic, cook, baker, clerk, truck driver etc... So many of them out there.
Yeah but how many Space Shuttle Door Gunners did you get?
Empty cans makes the most noise.
this comment is extremely underrated...
Every time i watch your show its like spending the day with dad warning us all of the evil con games thanks we lost dad last yr so this helps when im missing him thanks its calming
10 years ago I was grabbing breakfast at a local diner and there was a very elderly gentlemen with a Korea patch on his cover dining with his wife. I payed his meal anonymously, but the waitress pointed him at me anyway. I thanked him for his service and told him his war was not forgotten. He told me no one had ever done that for him before. He got teary eyed and choked up... real decent gentleman.
Your right, I am glad I did not have to serve in any conflict , but I thank the guys that have.
Instead, they should have joined a military role-playing club where they could have pretended to be, for example a Roman Centurion...
From my experience of seeing WWII, Korea, and Vietnam vets at my cash register they’re usually just wearing the baseball cap with their unit’s insignia and where they served. I remember seeing one guy who was in the cavalry in Vietnam and I asked him if he was air cav or armored cav since my uncle was in the armored cav in Iraq. When I asked him about it he seemed mildly unsettled about it and kind of surprised that a seventeen year old was asking him that and he gave me some brief answers and went on his way. Real vets are usually polite and brief, and they honestly would rather not talk about what they did or experienced *especially* not with strangers. I mean if my uncle is on his second or third beer at a family gathering he’ll talk about it pretty freely but despite having a family full of combat veterans I’ve barely been told anything about them. I had to learn from my brother that my grandpa was apparently offered to fly in the Blackbird project which is pretty fucking amazing and I have no idea why he’d never tell us this stuff.
I wanted to join when i got out of high school (had some medical problems that kept me from joining) but I would never pretend to be something I’m not was lucky enough to experience what i did and i will say in the end it made me a better person thank you to all who have actually served and god bless you
Same here. Wanted to go RAF and did a lot of fitness and research on the forces. Had glandular fever and out of that developed mild Asthma. Game over!!!!
James i know it’s a job i was stating i was lucky to have gotten where i did
Thanks! In most cases, especially mine, you didn't miss much!
We get these types over this side of the atlantic in the UK. Only we call them 'Walts' shortened from 'Walter Mitty', I am sure you know the type, stands at the bar with the 10,000 yard stare, dressed in an old cammo smock, just waiting for someone to ask the question...... We don't really get the six rows of medal ribbons, because we don't get many medals in the British Army, Marines, RAF etc. so when someone is in a dress uniform or on a remembrance day parade or something and they have a medal that is out of place, then it sticks out a country mile. As you know, a single sentence, or turn of phrase can give them away in a moment.
I know I should just look it up, but it's more interesting to hear it from the source. Who's Walter Mitty? Is he like our Marines Chester Pully, or is it used in a more "unironic" sense?
@Christhorpe Junction Ohhhhh, I know who you're talking about now. Thanks ^^
When Captain Kirk spoke with Spock as he died, I was there...🤣
Thank you for your service.
While I was Active Duty and even now as a Veteran the only thing I've ever worn off base that showed I was Military is my dog tags. I don't know if it's just me but while in the Military the second I could take my uniform off and put civis on to relax I would. Now as a Veteran the last thing I want to do is put on a uniform. Probably why so many stolen valor look like shit in uniform, they don't know how to wear it properly or put the effort in to do so.
May I ask why you joined then?
I usually wore civvies when not on duty but occasionally I'd get the mood to "show the colors" and go out in my Dress Uniform. Now of course there's no way I'd wear the uniform, not because of any hard feelings or anything, it's just because they've been sitting folded up in a footlocker in my closet for the past thirty years and I'm pretty sure I'd hurt something trying to squeeze into it
@Samuel Shin its all in the book. In 87' I was issued "Guide book for Marines" don't know if it is still issued to new recruits? I was thinking about wearing my dress blue uniform this November 11th for my daughter's vets day affair at her Christian school, sense she is a senior this year. The last one I will probably attend. Trying to loose weight so I can fit in the damn thing. She has never seen me in it! I was long out when she was born (2003) I got out in 1993! So, the old guide book will have to show me, because I don't remember every detail. Also, I was a Corporal. I noted the dress blue belt buckle has changed from what I was issued. So, I will have to do some homework before I put it on. I want to wear it right!! I should wear it as it was issued in 1989 (when I got my blues). Somebody will probably bust my ass for being fake, wouldn't that be funny. Going to get my DD214 or Vet card before I wear anything like that in public.
I don’t get how these kind of people walk around with a uniform they found online or a surplus supply and not feel embarrassed. Not only for disrespecting the military but disrespecting themselves.
I was in the Coast Guard and have seen a couple instances of this after my time in and was wondering if anyone has seen a fake “coastie.” The cute the cuddly, the Coast Guard!
I thank you so much for your service. Coast guard deserves recognition also
This I have to see, Senior Chief Shipley busting a fake Coastie...a fake Coastie? I'm a Coastie, 22 years and proud. Still, I'd like to see the Senior Chief bust that person's balls.
Always ask a Coastie what their MOS was.... if they tell you they are fus ..at least when I was in the CG didn’t have them. Whec36 Spencer ..68-72 westpac 69.
@@StarshipTrooper32 I think one have a screw loose to go through all that trouble to impersonate someone from a service that is smaller that the NY Police Department and one that most people have no idea what they do.
@Cleo Fierro......if you have the link, let me know, this I have to see. I bet Senior Chief ripped his ass up.
It's quite sad that they need to do that. It has to be a mental issue.
My dad had a bunch of medals. He would always complain when he was awarded one because it would mean that he'd have to spend money to get them mounted for his uniforms. If I remember correctly No1 had the actual medals and No 3 had the miniatures. The army here didn't pay for that. Does the military in other countries pay for it?
He spoke a little about what he did on the job. Most of his stories were of his off duty exploits with his buddys. I learned more about his army exploits from his former colleagues at his funeral a few years ago.
In the US it depends on the medal. The higher ones you will be presented with the medal itself; the lower ones you'll just get a certificate and have to purchase the medal. The ribbons are always all on you, but getting them mounted was pretty cheap, as I recall.
In Britain you get presented the medal but you need to pay to get them mounted and backed. Sometimes you can put it through the tailors but not always.
@@Jackwylde68 Our army was formed by the British Army so it makes sense that it's the same.
@@jadedandbitter My mom used to do the ribbons for him.
@@Jackwylde68 So glad I only got the two, Long service (and never been caught) plus the Queens Jubilee. I could have stayed in theatre to get more, but our group didn't care (RAF), and we left 5 days before the medal could be issued. I have my experiences in my head and don't need medals to remember them. Having to get miniatures for mess dress was a pain even though I never went to a function that I had to wear them.
Thank you for pointing out that it's called Medal of Honor. Medal of Honor recipients are inducted in the Congressional Medal of Honor Society, and that's where much of the confusion comes from. My hometown of Woodbury, NJ produced a Medal of Honor recipient PFC George Benjamin, Jr, US Army WWII. The plaque in his honor says "Congressional Medal of Honor", and it drives me nuts every time I see it.
How that gets so missed up I never can understand.
I'm an Aussie and for the longest time i thought it was called the Congressional Medal of Honor, because that"s what it's called in a lot of movies we get to see. It wasn't until i watched "Courage under fire" and Denzel Washingtons character stated it was called the Medal of Honor that i thought different. That could be where a lot of the confusion comes from.
@@JamesonsTravels That's as bad as the story of airport screening the medal still in its case and mistaking it as a throwing star even though the identification of the medal was in the case.
It can be referred to medal of honor or Congressional medal of honor, by law.
@@patrickmcshane7658 That's just false.
I would really like to thank you for opening up my eyes on the Phonies I really appreciate you just to let you know and for those who have served my great country thank you for your service and the sacrifices that you’ve made I gave you guys my whole life
It’s classified because we were deep behind enemy lines. I was a different kind of SEAL 🤷🏿♂️
I unique seal who only does special super secret missions.
Being overweight doesn’t necessarily mean stolen valor, my grandpa was in the Air Force and he got out was overweight and still had his dress uniform, so not the overweight part , but most definitely everything else
One guy was outed when he dressed as a decorated Marine and was partying with other decorated marines. The others got suspicious when the man, having to go to the bathroom, referred to it as a "latrine", whereas (I'm told) marines, like Sailors, call it "the head". Turns out this guy was in the Air Force for a short period of time and wanted to feel more honorable than his short mediocre career allowed. So he re-branded himself as a fake Marine.
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Even worse when an actual veteran tries to claim more than they actually did they should know the sacrifice their fellow service members did
That's when they don't do their homework.
Even if you only have read "Battle cry" by Leon Uris you should know that.
Well guarding the Beer Tent can be Rough Duty
I was a space shuttle door gunner and a pararescue ranger seal pilot. I got the medal of honor twice, but I can't tell you about it because I'm also a secret government agent. Nah but for real, I was just an 0311 that was in for 4 years. I met a guy who told me he was Marine Recon once...and I just so happened to be with my SARC buddy at the time. He made that dude cry.
super seal sniper recon ranger here.
After serving on active duty from 03' to 11' the thing I've noticed most often for these stolen valor dudes is the uniform. They are in uniform sometimes when they shouldn't be, and they seem to mix uniform pieces from different service branches. That or the ridiculous amount of ribbons/medals and such. If they have diarrhea of the mouth, about all the stuff they have done or detailed stories of missions that sound like some movie script, then it's probably BS. I've been out of the Marine Corps for almost 9 years now, and I still have not told my family, friends, or even my wife the shit that I experienced in combat or any details about my deployments. Once in a while I will talk about something random from a deployment but it's little shit like new food we tried, getting packages in the mail, or how exciting it was to be able to take a real shower a few times a month compared to the normal whore bath with wipes. I have quite a few veteran friends as well, and we don't sit around glorifying our service or dressing up like Chesty to get some freebies or attention.
the uni and the crazy amount ribbons.
My uncle was in Vietnam and talked about it constantly. I found out later from my mom that he was a mechanic who never saw battle. I commend him for joining but you know someone didn’t see battle who talks about it constantly.
My dad was a Marine scout sniper and served on guadalcanal, Tarawa, Saipan, and tinian during WWII. He didn't talk about it, and certainly didn't brag about it.
Things I brag about: Those times when we got drunk. Those times we didn't get caught doing something dumb. As far as work goes, I can dig a hole with a shovel better than anyone else. Funny thing is, no one ever takes that shovel from me to prove me wrong. They just let me do all the hand shoveling. lol, no one will steal my valor.
Absolutely true. I'm ex Navy and every time I've ever spoken with other vets about our service, it's almost never about the action we were in or the heroic deeds we've done, but rather the stupid shit we'd do for fun. It's almost never about how many confirmed kills you have or the types of guns you fired, but rather the dumbasses you racked with and the times you got away with shit. Hell, my favorite story of my time in service was when my Chief and LT came down to our office (worked in the supply department aboard the carrier USS Kitty Hawk, our office was attached to the training room and after hours we made it into a makeshift movie theater/gaming room, so our office also had everyone keep our binders of various dvds and games for free use). While the Chief was giving us some instructions, I spot my LT going through the binders in the office, notably flipping through mine. About two hours later I get called up to his office. I report in and he goes "I was going through your binder looking for porn earlier when I saw you had Battlestar Galactica. Mind if I borrow it? I'm behind and want to catch up". It's been 13 years and I'm still not sure what to make of that, but it's my go-to story of my time in the military.
Nice one here Richard. My Step dad (deceased) used to sometimes talk about the time he spent during WW2. Mostly about how having a really hard time of it (wasn't it for everyone) but did say he appeared on parade drunk (but disguised it well). The only bad thing he ever said to me was his time at Casino. I can add to this but won't as it isn't very nice (so what was! )
I like talking to other veterans especially from eras before my time. I was in the USAF but have been into military history from ancient to modern times since I was 8 or 9 so I know a decent but about different US military units and emblems.
I used to read gas meters and talked lots of people in that job including follow vets. Probably my favorite conversation was with a black gentleman who had been in the 173rd Airborne in Vietnam one of the most decorated units from that war. He had on a hat with the 173rd emblem and I said "you were a Sky Solider?" He got a huge smile on his face and talking about his time with 173rd in Vietnam I "wasted" over an hour of company time talking to him.
Tristan Holland ‘stolen time?’
Funny this should come up. I remember going ashore at Normandy with George Patton and discussing this very thing in 1944.
@Wise and Free yeah he was a rough son of a bitch we fought our way out of a mongolian prison camp together in ‘17 with only a tooth brush and dreams
I know a guy who simply, when I met him, was a (retired) Marine Officer. Never talked about it much, just a Marine and contractor. Over the years as I got to know him, he was much more than that. Much, much more upon discernment. Yet he never, ever boasted. You know military men are the real deal if they dont talk about it and simply say they served but carry themselves humbly, confidently, and quietly.
I confess to a stolen valour incident. When I was in the army, I severed my cruciate ligament inside my knee, skiing in Norway. So 14yrs later I finally got round to getting it fixed, cos my knee kept dislocating.
They sliced the tendon off one of my hamstrings, and used that as my new knee ligament, via keyhole surgery. I now have a kinda hole in the back of my leg where the muscle used to be.
So a few years later I was getting out of bed, and my GF at the time says "OMG! Did you get shot when you were in the army, there's a big hole in the back of your leg?".
I was like "Oh yeah, It doesn't hurt that much, except in the winter when the cold gets in there and the bullet moves around a bit", as I limped out of the bedroom.
I've known 2 guys in my life that claim they were in Vietnam, with REALLY detailed, chilling stories, and neither one of them were ever there.....
@Raizen Cruer Neither one of them were old enough to be drafted to go to Nam. I wasn't old enough myself (graduated HS in '75) and it turned out they were BOTH younger than me....
I know many people who have been in combat and warzones for long periods. None of them where bragging about their experiences. Most of them suffered of PTSD and I would definitively not describe them as proud.
I hear you. I understand there reasons
Stolen Valor is known in the UK as “walting” (Walter Mitty). Now the idea of someone who has never served in the military posing as one who has is contemptible but to be honest most of them seem to have mental health issues.
I wonder though about those people who somehow manage to slip through the net and never seem to get anything said about them.
Who are they?
Those who are ex-military who ‘big up’ their service, give themselves ranks they never had, talk about things they never did and units they never served in or somehow have ‘mates’ who served in them.
This is just as bad, if not worse than the civvies, they should know better.
I worked alongside many ex military people who were excellent but I also came across a lot of bullshitters.
I was a police officer, some of them wore blue and carried a badge..
They seem to just coast on by and nothing gets done about them.
Strange...
David Vazquez To be honest I quickly found out that those who talked the loudest and the most did the least, those military people that were quiet were the ones who had done the most and didn’t brag about it.
Most I encountered and worked with were excellent but there was always those few...
When a group of us Old Marines get together we mostly talk about Boot Camp and wild shennagins we got into on Liberty
True my father served 82nd Airborne in WW 2 on a machine gun crew. He had 2 1/2rows of ribbons with little stars on some. Plus, Presidential Unit Citation. He said " never made it to Europe because war ended, only marched in parades " Yet, a Lt. Colonel and Senior Sergeant showed up at his funeral.
20 years in the navy and it really upset me to see that. I was in from 1970 to 1990 and I very rarely talk about it. Good bless all the true hero I knew some that gave the true last measure.
2:08 -- they brag. This in my experience is the biggest red flag. I've known a few brave souls who have actually been in 'the shit' and they all had one thing in common. The RARELY talked about it and when they did it was always in passing. Conversation turns to an area that reminds them of a situation, they briefly mention that situation then immediately do everything they can to change the subject. The only reason I knew my grandfather was a tail gunner on a B-17 during WWII and won the Silver Star and was a POW was because other family members told me. In my entire life of knowing him before he died in the early '00's he told me stories exactly ZERO times. My mother told me a story about when she was a kid growing up her and her brothers were acting like jerks at the dinner table (bitching about what my grandmother made, bitching they were starving, etc.) My grandfather suddenly slams his fist down on the table and says 'You don't know what fucking hungry is until you've fought over a rotten fucking potato. Shut the fuck up and eat your dinner.' That was the ONE story he told his CHILDREN. No elaboration, no explanation. Just a couple sentences and moved on. Sorry, this post got a tad spammy. Suffice to say the bragging observation really hit home.
My grandfather was in ww2. My mom told me that absolutely no one was allowed to ask him about speak of the war. In the end of his years I never heard him speak of the war. Every time he'd hear of the possibility of war breaking out he'd remove himself from the television room n go in the bedroom. I'd assume to cry even though I had never seen him cry. I can only assume he was thinking about his days in ww2 and possibly what the young people will face.
To think that there are trash that try to claim what our past , present and future soldiers have sacrificed is an absolute disgrace.
British versions are: Walter (someone who has never been in the forces but wears a uniform) Bloater (someone who was in the forces but has claimed positions or actions they never had or did)
A real soldier isn’t going to tell you about how many firefights he’s been in, a real soldier is going to tell you how many firefights he’s been in while succumbing to intense bouts of diarrhea.
Nice video. Hand an interesting encounter with a bus driver in college. He said he ran the mess hall in the Army, and said so with pride. If there are fighters, there has to be people feeding them, right? Everybody's got a part to play, do it to the best of your ability!
Respect anyone who served except the real complainers. I cannot take them. I honestly feel back for the mental fakers.
Robble Ray Well, I hope he didn't run Con-4 at FT. Devens. Back in the day we called it the mess hall that shit 3 times a day, lol!.
Heh...that's someone who deseves a 'Thank you for your service', especially from fellow soldiers. If it weren't for support staff (mess hall, motor pool, quartermasters and the like) the fron- liners wouldn't do so well...
@@VulpisFoxfire not at all. We would be toast. Forgot something ? Need shit ordered ? Tough shit... thanks supply! Couldn't live without ya, truly!
Not wanting to work for free ? Made a mistake and need your records fixed ? Thanks human resources! (S1)
Hungry and dont feel like eating putting of a can or bag, thanks cooks!
Dont wanna walk ? Hopefully you didnt piss off the mechanics and motor pool staff to bad or your little boots are gonna be your primary source of transport.
@@sfdanceron1 Summer or fall 1964 At C company, Devens lots of guys got sick from con 4. We ate at A company for a couple days. I was OK, saved by my cast iron stomach.
I'm a former U.S. MARINE spent 1966 to 1972 stayed in Vietnam for 52 months.
Didn't like stateside duty.
I recieved during my time total of 10 ribbons and my shooting badges.
I know someone who spent 2 years in the crotch and he has more awards then Chesty Puller. When I ask him he gets huffy and wants to fight right away.its a real shame there are these people in all branches of the military who totally inflate themselves and live in a fantasy world.
I myself prefer forgeting it all and enjoy my life. War is hell. You never forget the sights and smells we endured, and it is never pleasant to talk about it.
SEMPER FI.
Wow. That is some series duty in Vietnam. HQ co always had piles of metal. Semper Fi.
I'm in the coast guard auxilary and we wear the ODUs when i go to the meetings and some people see me and say thank you for your service, and I tell them that I never served in the military
You know I got yelled at about this one time. I went into a army navy store or whatever and they had this green army jacket or some shit. It had no patches on it. No indicating Mark's. Any ways fast forward two years down the road and some dude at a bar like super drunk saying he was in Afghanistan and shit starts basically saying I'm disrespecting the uniform and etc etc very very loud. Telling me take said jacket off. There was another veteran in a different part of the bar who stuck up for me and then they started arguing about my jacket. Some how I got pushed to the wayside in that scenario. Any ways every body eventually calmed down about my jacket and I was like yo I'm going home lol. I ended up seeing the veteran who got pissed like another year down the road at a different bar. Like a year down the road. He comes up behind me like hey arent you that guy who was wearing the army jacket etc. I was like yeah then we bought each other some beers weird shit I guess
Hey Jameson! Great videos and Don Shipley is a great man. I watch him go to work and he looks into the camera when he knows this guy on the phone was stolen valor. Just that Senior Chief look just cracks me up. Thank you for your service, Marine! Troy Lawson
Cannot beat Don's videos. I almost feel bad for them.
VN ‘68-‘69 and I HATE “thank you for your service”. Too many guys over there deserved Leavenworth more than thanks.
I was in a parade last year in town and was climbing into the float when I heard the man standing next to me say "Semper Fi" to another man passing by. When we were both on the float I told him "Thank you for your service." He asked me if I had served. I said no but I did do a stint in law enforcement as a corrections officer. His eyes widened. "You were working in the prisons?". All I could response with was " You were a Marine! How can anything I did impress you?". The real vets are humble. If he's a blowhard fronting how superior he is, he's lying.
USA has a lot of easy achievement ribbons compared to commonwealth countries. You do not see many Canadians or British with a triple rack let alone 6 rows.
i like those african and north korean dictators all their badges and ribbons they give themselves
military service medal for getting out of bed on time or some stuff xD
With all due respect what does triple rack mean? Do you mean all the badges US troops add to their Blazers. Yeah, to me it looks over the top. When I see that stuff, I always think only in America. But as I said above, I'm not a soldier, but I worked at US army barracks as a civi chef. My bro retired after 26 years in the British army though. I'm a nothing though myself.
So what?
Joshua Turcotte, the Marines say the same thing! 😝
My grandnephew graduated AF basic about six months ago, He had four ribbons! All he could do is wear his uniform correctly and march...kind of.
The Army is just as bad and the Navy isn't much better.
I spent six years in the Marine Corps and left with four, I wound up with six because two were awarded retroactively. Of the six, only one was a "give away" award. The other five were earned. Oh, I also have two badges, Rifle Expert (6th) and Pistol Expert (3rd)
Let them have their meaningless ribbons, badges and patches. I have the Eagle, Globe & Anchor and the title.
Depends on the branch. Marine corps gives Good Conduct, National Defense and campaign ribbons.
Funny story, I was in Seattle when my dad was still in the Navy as a chief petty officer, and there where two “sailors” in there white uniform, I don’t know what it’s called but they both had there hands in there pockets, which I later learned is something you never do
If that's your funny story you have to get out more.
@@keithcollard2217 i thought it was pretty humorous
@@beebadoobie8429 well Mikey watts, that's cuz u are speshal;)....
@@keithcollard2217 yes ma'am i ride the short bus with a nascar helmet to keep in my 3 braincells
@@beebadoobie8429 Yes, I am a member of 'No Ma'am.'
Most of the Marines I've met tend to stand in place differently than your average Joe and carry themselves in public with a confidence that's easy to spot.
A lot of those who made it through SOF trainings CAN'T talk about ops. Also, any op that has been completed will retain a 5 year gag order attached. Intel is super important and if the enemy can catch wind of when, how, and how long, training prior to the op the U.S. had to get ready, they will close what they considered leaked channels. If you meet someone who just got out and claims any SOF training or op depolyments, be cautious of the information they give. Much of that is SV. I've seen and called out a few people in my home city for just that after I got home. In my experience, the people who clamor for the "thank you for your service" tend to have been shitbags as well. I hate that sentiment, even today. I have a friend who likes to announce things about me when introducing me to people, but then if someone even starts the sentence I stop them. It was my job, it was what I was there to do. I didn't do anything for thanks. From what I've seen, most people who have re-entered civie life feel the exact same way.
Also, if you're pulled for selections, your family will likely think that you are still doing your normal Rate or MOS. Most people don't get to tell home that they are going into selections. Maybe they can preemptively let them know that they have applied, but that's about it.
Oh yeah. I did this but cannot talk about it. Then they proceed to keep talking.
@@JamesonsTravels It's amazing when you ask them simple questions about trainings or selections and what they though of (insert evolution name known by those who went) and they look at you glassy eyed.
@@JamesonsTravels Yeah I was in the space force Great Martian Revolution of 2019 with the rest of my Navy Seals forces. I also invented the space m-16's that can fire in the vacuum and the star pills that lets soldiers survive in space. I was in charge of a small dreadnought that was fueled on patriotism.
In the end it's all a lie but sometimes they make some pretty good stories, quite entertaining some times.
I have a Distinguished Flying Cross for flying a midnight raid over Macho Grande. Poor Frank Zipp.....
Witness : Striker was the squadron leader. He brought us in real low. But he couldn't handle it.
Prosecutor : Buddy couldn't handle it? Was Buddy one of your crew?
Witness : Right. Buddy was the bombardier. But it was Striker who couldn't handle it, and he went to pieces.
Prosecutor : *Andy* went to pieces?
Witness : No. Andy was the navigator. He was all right. Buddy went to pieces. It was awful how he came unglued.
Prosecutor : *Howie* came unglued?
Witness : Oh, no. Howie was a rock, the best tailgunner in the outfit. Buddy came unglued.
Prosecutor : And he bailed out?
Witness : No. Andy hung tough. Buddy bailed out. How he survived, it was a miracle.
Prosecutor : Then Howie survived?
Witness : No, 'fraid not. We lost Howie the next day.
Prosecutor: Over Macho Grande?
Witness: No. I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande.
And his brother George!
That’s the kind of shit that makes you think you’re Ethel Merman
Over Macho Grande?
Fake news, fake hollywood actors, fake self esteem. Fake special forces, it is normal. Btw, with all the navy seal movies now, everyone wants to be a seal ;)
Not me. I went to high school in Northern San Diego by Camp Pendelton, where I was in MCJROTC, and we got to spend a week with the SEALs at Coronado.
It only took me an hour to go, "You can fucking have this. I'm out!"
Thanks for mentioning the "hat boys" your absolutely right, they want the "thank you for your service" line. Every true veteran I've met does not want to advertise it.
The only one who can rock a rack of medals without question is Master Chief himself. Unfortunately he isn't real. :(
Since being honorably discharged from the US Navy, nearly 25 years ago, I've occasionally worn a ball cap with the flag on it - which leads me into piggy backing onto part of your commentary. An actual veteran will be more understated in how they present themselves to people, whereas the person who is more likely to be engaging in some form of stolen valor will be a walking billboard for America and the military. You're right, they seem to be wanting to invite the conversations with people about their exploits and the extra 'thank you for service' replies and pats on the back. Everyone, keep a watchful eye on the walking billboards.
Jeese,
My navy brother. I agree it's the guys who go over the top. The cook who was a Seal guy. The radioman who was in Force Recon guy. I feel said for them and how it must feel to be that way. My USMC gear were all gifts from kids or wife. I want the current breed to get their 'thanks' and I like to sit back appreciate the good ole days. Semper FI.
@@JamesonsTravels , the most cringeworthy stuff is when you hear the loudmouths at the bar, ripping off rhetoric straight from old or very recent movies. Watching videos of vets catching these dudes has become a guilty pleasure of mine. I do have to admit that.
I worked with this guy that gave a "heart wrenching" war story. However when I looked down at what he's reading, it was the exact same story.
As a former Canadian reservist with a fair bit of training but zero combat time, I never understood the stolen valor thing... I mean, what do you get? It has to be a cry for attention, or as you said, maybe a mental illness. There can't be any logical reason a well adjusted person would do it in my mind.
A lot of times they dress up in public for veterans discounts, ask for donations from people, free meals from restaurants that offer to servicemen etc.
For money or to save money... also pretty common for losers to try and pick up chicks. Acting like some bad ass or something.
3 of my uncles and maternal grandpa served in WWII. Only way I heard about it was from his high school buddies still living in hometown. One uncle was a cook that survived his back area getting overrun in Battle of the Bulge. One saw combat in Europe late 45 and was either in transit or processing to ship to Pacific when the bomb was dropped. Grandpa was an enlisted man in company command as I understood. No exploits but he could only talk about the unspeakable brutality on both sides. He never watched or commented on war films-he just couldn’t watch. 3 cousins survived USMC tour in Vietnam-one wounded bad at Da Nang. Nobody brags. They mourn the ones they left behind. I admire these men and would rather die than be caught lying about living through their experiences.
Thank you , Mr. Jameson, for your service to our country, and the recognition for valor , you and so many other men truly earned, and deserve.
Be careful when evaluating the Air Force. You can have rows of ribbons after a couple of years.
You an Air Force vet?
Grasshopper I did four years in the Marine Corps and then 18 in the AF.
i'm an air force vet how do you mean that?
Yeah because in the chairforce you’ll get a ribbon for waking up on time and breathing
@@Arbiter8114 hey, take it easy and take that back, i don't know where you get your info from. we all had a job to do, not everybody carried a gun. i carried a tool box and such as a ground to air and ground to ground communications tech, so please don't lay that on me or the air force.