Before I joined after high school, I used to wear my dad's old uniforms that he wore in Vietnam. I wore them, because I thought they were cool, plus I wore them for the pride I felt for my dad. However, I never told anyone that I served. I told them that it was my dad's uniform, but I was joining after I graduated. Nobody ever gave me crap about wearing them.
we all used to wear old bdus or family military gear as kids playing in the woods. the new stolen valor worries every remote thing military is to much.
@@bridge-nu4vm Noted, but I do understand how someone might want to feel a moment of honor. I remember walking into to bars in Georgia and being served alcohol before I was old enough. Even in my civs, they knew I was a soldier. They'd say, if you're old enough to die for this country you're old enough to drink. I also remember a friend that I grew up with. He bawled like a baby the day they told him he couldn't join because he had bad heart. He was an eagle scout, our leader. Greatest tactician I ever knew. We won every capture the flag battle, because of his leadership. A great soldier that never got to be. Let them have their moment of glory. We served so that they could.
My (ex) wife's uncle was a Vietnam vet. When we got married he wanted to give us something but he didn't have much. So he gave us his jacket. I don't wear it often, but when I do, I do it to honor his desire to be generous. There is no stencil, no insignia, no flag, no patches, just a very sturdy olive green jacket with great pockets. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not.
@@1badsteedOr, here’s a novel concept, he’s not looking for anything from anyone. He’s wearing something he wants to wear and not trying to come up on anything. As if a “thanks” from a dude who looks like he belongs on a certain registry is worth anything of value. Ha!
I call bullshit, everybody knows it was the 501st who fought in the clone wars, I'd appreciate it if you would take off your armor and hand over your lightsaber.
@@JacobEcret no retirees get a CAC when they get out, it is known as the DD Form 2 (retiree ID), and it gives them access on base because it has the scannable bar code on the back.
It's not against the law to wear the uniform. It's only against the law to profit or benefit from stolen Valor... You can walk into any army surplus store and buy all the stuff
It could be articulated that if they're out in public in it, they're trying to get some kind of gain from it. Why else would you wear it? It's pretty established at this point that you're going to attract unwanted attention
@@chandlerh2408 If you're out in public like a mall, restaurant, some place people go to spend money and you wear a military uniform when you're not military, that's enough to articulate stolen Valor, write a report, submit it to the judge and then leave it up to him/her to issue a warrant for that person's arrest.
@@598bryceyou're absolutely incorrect. What you said was like saying if you're in a parking lot it can be articulated that you are about to break into a car.
@@598bryceExactly, they'll waltz into a bar or restaurant hoping for a bit of sympathy, maybe put on a limp, not saying but implying ex combat vet injured in the line of duty, down on their luck, waiting for a" Hi buddy let me buy you a beer" Successful fraud taken place.. The problem is they need to wear the uniform to achieve this fraud, 99% of the time, Ex-miltary would never walk around wearing their old uniform
@@JamesonsTravels My daughters mom is Hmong and she thinks that 2nd guy looks like he is Lao...I don't think he has the English skills (sad after being in country for so long) to properly explain what his involvement in the Vietnam war actually was. He probably can't go back due because his clans involvement with the CIA...they were probably wiped out by the Khamer Rouge or some shit. In fact I just checked with her and she says her clan is still hunted in the mountains for their involvement to this day.
The Marine Corps had a "Whatever MOS". That was for newly minted 1LT's with little or no officer training just getting back to The States after Battlefield Commission in an active warzone! The MOS was 2876 in 2011!
@@JamesonsTravels shit i wasn't allowed in because of my shaky hands they said that i couldn't have shaky hands at a range so i was disqualified but i am going to join the local volunteer fire department my great grandpa would of been pissed with these fakers though he was a B-26 Marauder pilot in the army air corps ww2 451st 322nd he flew many b26s the one i remember he told me about is the Sarah E, but anyhow if he saw these fakers knowing him as well as i do that faker would of got hurt
We had a guy who got a section 8 discharge, he got naked and started swimming in a duck pond in Germany when we were stationed and the German police picked them up took him to a psych ward and that was the start of his journey on a section 8 out of the military before our second deployment
Sec 8 is the pre-conclusion of mental defect. Sec. 13 is after determination which leads to a Sec. 23 or Sec. 25 General or Less Than Honorable Separation!
When my daughter graduated boot camp at Ft Jackson she gave me a gray ARMY t-shirt as a gift. It's my favorite shirt. She was just through the toughest 8 weeks of her life, had practically no money - and still went to the gift shop for her family. I don't wear it so people think I was in the Army. I wear it because she gave it to me. I wear it because I'm proud of her. Over the last 6 years I've been stopped by people saying thank you for your service - which I always explain it's my daughter - and that one time some douchecanoe started questioning my MOS - in the airport - in front of a lot of people ... and I had to pull him aside and explain through my teeth about the shirt. Pissed me off. I have a Red Sox t-shirt too. People don't think I'm a baseball player. These guys need to chill out. People can wear an Army T-Shirt or a jacket without having to explain themselves. It's not a uniform.
I'm sorry, but even that grey Army t-shirt your daughter gave you is part of our uniform. It is not a part of our BDU(Battle Dress Uniform), but it is a part of our PT(Physical training) uniform.
@Pauly Gambino I never said it was wrong or that it bothered me. I still own a pt shirt that I wear around just as a t-shirt and I've been out of the army for 10 years. I was just informing the individual that it is indeed a part of our uniform.
Heh, I had a guy try to embarrass me saying that I wasn't an ex serviceman and my medals (All four of them 😂) were fake at a Remembrance Day parade despite three of my medals being named to me and having my original regimental membership card from 1985 which was in pieces almost and held together with fablon. He still wouldn't have it no matter how much I argued my point 😂😂😂
There's a vet that comes into my store. Dude is Korean-American, retired from the Marines then did a stent with the Navy. Now he's been in school for like 10 years. He's old dude and now just likes to learn all sorts of things. He's bad ass even as an old dude... Semper-fi
I was a window gunner at a McDonald’s in Detroit. I don’t talk about it much, though. A lot of people lost their lives and an ice cream machine was destroyed.
Oh I remember you guys. You were the ones that dethroned the Burger King during the war of fries right? lol. Your comment just made me laugh, thanks for lightening my day :)
I had some angry 60-something guy call me out for wearing a Navy hat. He asked me when I served and I told him I didn't....I come from a Navy family (father = 30 yrs and brother = 20 yrs). He accused me of stolen valor. I hate stolen valor but wearing a friggin hat doesn't qualify.
@@JamesonsTravels I've worked in the bar/restaurant industry for quite a while now and I know enough to occasionally call out the faker who's trying to milk it. Last year I busted a guy for using his dad's military ID to get a discount (the ID was from 1975). I tore him a new one.
What is the actual definition of stolen valour like one item like a hat or does it need a full kit ? Like this guy wearing a navy hat but not in a context of using that hat to get monetary gain does that count as stolen valour ? Army related stuff has always fused with “ fashion “ as such. Growing up in northern England late 80’s loads of teens wore German army style jackets obviously that’s not army original but my question is where do you draw the line ? Jameson what do you reckon ?
@@thesatisfiedcustomer4869 The actual definition of Stolen Valor is making fraudulent claims of military services for monetary gains or other benefits. So claiming you very in the military when you never were, claiming you're a retired Brigadier General when you got out as a Private First Class, or claiming so award you never got for the specific reason of gaining something from your claims
I served 5 years on USS Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. People often question me about my MOS when I wear my Federation uniform out, I tell them talk to me when u fought in a Klingon War.
I was a bad ass Navy Seal, my rank was; Senior Master Gunnery Sargent General ... I was a big deal, until my PlayStation got unplugged Lol!! ... I was stationed at camp Livingroom; Remote Control Operator; Refrigeration Navigation
😂😂😂 I’m so envious! I salute you Senior Master gunnery sergeant general bad ass! Nice bunker! Looks just like Mom and Dads basement! Following seas to you and may your beer always be ice cold!👍👍😂
@@papabrtrk I wholeheartedly thank you dearly for the honor and salute, means so much more than my secret service for the navy .... it was so classified, I didn't even know I was a seal
Section 8 was a category of discharge from the United States military, used for a service member judged mentally unfit for service. Section 8 was also often given to cross-dressers, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.
My english is pretty bad so would you pleas explane me that pay-grade "E..:" stuff? In our millitary E or OR is for the UN rank classification. Maybe i mix that up due to the fact i didnt catch the link between pay-grade and that letter E. If its about the actual pay you get i guess its because we use BBesO (for me for example) it would have been A 7mA.
Scr7n 7z Army Well the point is there is no G9, the guy was clearly making it up when the other guy was asking him if he was an e5 or e6 to try to sound like he knew what he was talking about but he ended up showing he had no clue lmao. Also E6 is a rank which has a pay grade associated just like with all ranks but the guy clearly didn’t know that so it was a good laugh
@@foberdud7576 Thanks mate, i think i got it now. Correct me if iam wrong but if i got it right in american systhem i (obfw) would be E-5 ; A 7mA? Sounds simple, no wonder you guys had to lought at that point. :D And finaly i get the battleship joke from Mango Man too... xD
@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath Veterans deserve our respect and adoration but these guys are clearly not firing on all cylinders. It doesn't take anything away from your service it doesn't make anyone believe your service was cheap or easy. Let them walk around looking like the fools they are don't let some mentally ill man attached too an adolescent fantasy ruin your day and let's just remember that not every person who served saw combat or risked their lives. If you were a cook in the Navy and want too smash some guy for wearing a fake uniform maybe that's YOUR insecurity
I am a veteran, and I gave all my stuff to the Salvation Army or to Goodwill over the years. If I saw someone wearing my field jacket or anything else, I would leave them alone. I would only get upset about someone claiming to be a military hero for money.
That is kinda not the problem here though, you see all the people at a store, public transit (they also give discounts to vets in my city) or parking lots. Clearly these guys are going out with the idea of getting something for being in their uni.
@@AllyMonsters Oh come on Karen. You gotta do better than that. People complement and honor veterans because it makes THEM feel good, not because of whatever any particular vet fees about such complements. And if somebody is so inclined to fake veteran status to get a free meal at Applebees on Veteran's Day? So what. That kind of stuff is not worth getting all upset about. Now of course if someone does this to defraud the taxpayer of funds earmarked for veterans' benefits, that's a horse of a different color. But from what I've seen, it's mainly people just out playing soldier. Let'em have their fun, they're not hurting anyone.
I'm a vet, run a surplus store. The only time stolen valor is a crime is if you're using it for financial gain or to garner benefits (like VA benefits, disability pay). Anyone can wear military uniform, dress, utilities, properly or improperly, that is part of the first amendment, freedom of expression. It is illegal to impersonate a federal agent, but AGAIN, only if you're using it to gain favor or to coerce someone. Know the law before you cite it.
Very well said. I love to shop at the surplus stores and buy gear. I never wear uniform, but I like the BDU pants the Woodland pattern. I like the K-Bar knife too and the jungle boots. It is great to go camping and do outdoors stuff. I have never owned the Blouse (top) as I think that it will be a bit misleading.
Ehhh it’s really a grey area “impersonating” a gov official is very loosely worded intentionally. Sure you can wear BDU, ODU whatever but putting your name, a flag, service branch all that can be construed as “stolen Valour”
@@gabriellandry1962 not in the US. Its only Stolen Valor if you use it "with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.". US v Alvarez determined that wearing an unearned uniform or medals or anything like that is covered by the first ammendment, its only a crime if they use it to gain any tangible thing or benefit like a discount or free shit or whatever
@Trevor S might have to do with how he discharged. Honorable, dishonorable, ECT Also dishes server his term all the way? Those questions/factors might be crucial otherwise Idk?
You’re allowed to wear Army Uniforms that are unauthorized (bdu, acu and PT) just don’t go around asking for money or discounts. Now, if you start wearing authorized Army OCP’s or PT then it’s a problem, even more if you start parading around asking for discounts and shit. Also, you can’t wear authorized Army uniform with civies. I see alot of lower enlisted(pvts) wearing the PT shirt and some jeans on post. Can’t do that, now if you’re doing some type of off post PT or even on post and your CO allows the troop or Battery to do that, then you can. It all falls under AR 670-1, uniform standards and grooming standards.
The guy with the leather jacket is not stolen valor. There are a ton of people who wear army shirts and navy hats. You can support the troops without being stolen valor. It’s only when you try to pretend to be something you see not.
I have to tell you if you are wearing patches and other insignia to the point where it look close enough to fool people into thinking its real its still a crime not military support. The same goes for any municipal police officer as well. The person could be charged with military or police impersonation which IS a Felony and or Federal offence. Look it up and youll find the exact verbage or legal language.
They are asking for V.A cards because most of these violators are older so the should have one if they served and are of a certain age. But thats not the most important thing that they ask. How do you not know what your M.O.S is in the military? Thats literally what your job is for the military. They cant tell you that then they ARE FULL OF MALARKEY
@@shozinryu4 Neither the Navy or Air Force uses the term MOS. Air Force uses "Air Force Specialty Code" and the Navy uses "rate". Only the Marine Corps and Army call it MOS.
Pfft, I saw a baby wearing camo. You better believe me, I tore it off an held the baby up to my face an yelled at it till he pooped himself......needles to say he'll never wear camo again.......these stolen valor guys are getting to be the Karen's of armed forces to me
The difference between stolen valor and just wearing it is what you take from it, if you just need clothes it's not a big deal but if you claim to be part of any branch without actually being such, then that is stolen valor.
As an enlisted general (E1), served in the fighter wing of the navy seals, flying an A-10 Stealth Fighter and being a Sniper, I can say these guys are clearly fake.
That kid was about to say “this isn’t my vest”. Man Walmart sells shirts that say ARMY, Semper Fidelis etc. if the kid wants to wear the flag let him. He’s not wearing fatigues or medals or anything that would be considered stolen valor. Some of the people harassing everyone are just trying to go viral on the backs of the Stolen Valor trend and in my opinion that’s just as bad as someone faking their affiliation.
True. I just spend 8 years as a medic and got out. Shit like that I wouldn't even look twice, yet i've seen "stolen valor" videos where someone wore some utility pants (which for almost any handy work are pretty damned useful) and some other ass hat who did JROTC comes screaming at em "STOLEN VALOR!!!"
@@shane8037 hahaha it’s true! People go crazy thinking they’re right and wanna show the world how right they are thinking everyone will agree with them and tell em “good job” Smfh. Validation is a hell of a drug.
I served 20 years under Captain Morgan and what a hang over that was . I also was an imperial soldier Space Core and did a tour of Endor and Hoth. I also forgot I did a tour in the Caribbean, I served under Captain Jack Sparrow. My Second tour in space was for Captain James.T.Kirk and served on the USA Enterprise
What the what...”what was your MOS” she responds “I just did whatever”. My recruiter lied to me. I knew there was a job like that and I spent 24 years doing what they wanted. Ugh 🤦♂️. The humiliation.
Really think about it for a minute. Do you really wish the military had a whatever MOS. I've heard some weird stories from Vietnam vets, stuff people had to do because there wasn't a MOS that covered it My personal favorite, burning the latrine barrels and somebody threw a can of hairspray in one. Unfortunately he wasn't able to get out the fallout zone
@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath Never said that. The last c in cac stands for card so when people say cac card they are saying common access card card.
Down here in Australia there’s a saying that goes “How do you know a guy doesn’t work for ASIO (our version of the CIA or NSA)? If you ask them if they work there, and they say yes, then they don’t...” 😂
i was in the marine corps for 63 years i was a first class lieutenant sergeant, my MOS was 7th Division Marsoc ranger, and I served 6 tours in the SEALS battalion
@@vincentlok8894 COLONEL GENERAL FIELD MARSHAL JONES!!! I remember back in 2003 in Vietnam where you saved our platoon from those Black Ops Special Forces, after our Reconnaissance Submarine got hit by a space drone.
I'm sure you could tell us more, but it's ultra top secret, like so top secret that you have to award and pin your own medals. It's a lonely life I'm sure....
MOS stands for Military Occupational Specialty, a system used by the military to categorize career fields and define roles and responsibilities for service members.
yup I have an airborne ranger field jacket given to my brother (ssf himself) or me by the owner I wear it wit pride not deception I'm not impersonating I'm paying respect
theres a video on youtube im sure you can find it but theres this kid trying to film this vet on camera for stolen valor just because he was wearing camo pants haha. even if he wasnt a vet wearing camo pants isnt stolen valor.
I went to a ship christening in Pascagoula, Mississippi for the USS James E. Williams. As a part of the ceremony everyone was provided with a ship coin and ship hat as a gift. I was 17 years old with the hat on and got ran up on by the stolen valor police at a country store on the same trip. The guy was asking me all these questions and got really pissed off. Thankfully my uncle, who was at the time a non retired Command Master Chief, came around the corner and rescued me. Moral of this story is listen to Jameson, not everyone has stolen valor intentions.
i was shooting a short film once, just a university students comedy film about a unit of dumbasses, think the video game battlefield bad company if you know what that is, really deadly soldiers who are complete dumbasses, obviously not realistic at all but our outfits were lovingly donated by his aunt who was ex military and owned a military surplus store, so our shit was a bit dated but looked the part, some asshole as we're on lunch back in town walking through the mall to the food court started drilling the shit out of me as i had snuck off to go to the bathroom, i kept repeating bro fuck off im an actor, we're shooting a film, but kept repeating "you know it's illegal to wear blah blah blah" im like bruh these aren't even standard CANADIAN uniforms!!! they were like 90s polish army or some shit, i was like are you fucking stupid, turns out he didn't serve, his family member did and this dude in particular acts like he's military. how did i find this out, his brother who WAS in the canadian military showed up and told him to fuck off and apologized. sometimes it's really isn't with any intentions at all
@@nathanielbozeman7869 im much older now. it totally bummed me out though at the time. much respect to Mississippi overall! The people were great and the crawfish boils were awesome.
That first guy seemed pissed off not just cause of the uniform but he’s also wearing his patch. CAC Card = Common Access Card. It’s both your ID and the chip (like a credit card) allows you to log on to computers and open doors and stuff. Most all Army troops know 670-1 is uniforms. You get it screamed at you when you’re jacked up.
CAC Common Access Card: Essentially military ID and it's also used for logging into DoD computers. Also encryption type stuff like signing emails as well as having your Tricare info on it, if you live in the dorms/barracks it's also used to get food from the DFAC.
@Der Richtige Arzt I bet that son of a gun knows how to get every penny he can from your axes Arzt and were every church free meal is.....we work 12 hours a day and this guy is living large....he is smarter than us...Morse code or not dot dot dot dashhhhhhh.....
@@BillMorganChannel I'm pretty sure what the man was saying, is he served in the Navy, in Laos, during Vietnam. Like, not the US-Navy. They in fact used Morse Code then, in some situations, due to being poor countries with weak commo systems. But that is besides the point, you do understand Mores Code can transmit messages in numerous languages? The original Morse code is an international endex.
Common Accsess Card. The CAC, a "smart" card about the size of a credit card, is the standard identification for active duty uniformed Service personnel, Selected Reserve, DoD civilian employees, and eligible contractor personnel. It is also the principal card used to enable physical access to buildings and controlled spaces, and it provides access to DoD computer network and systems.
I work at a Hotel. I have seen them when military checked in but I didn't know what they were called. Thank you for the detailed explanation. And yes when I can I give complementary upgrades and discounts to Military that show their CAC cards.
i think its a government id card because VA employees use them too but i believe the VA cac cards have an nfc chip in them. they use them to go into secured areas like the treatment side where the doors are locked until called. i want to say its not a military id but a government id. the government designation is on the cac card though like VA has the VA symbol, military branches have their branch designation on them. civilian contractors have their designation on them.
I'm an ARMY vet, I have never carried a card, I've worn bdu pants on many occasions, many of these people do have mental issues, I've helped the homeless and many were handed old hand me down uniform articles of clothing military issued, and my issue was always what vet threw their class A's away, or dumped off their field uniforms with name and rank still attached? There's the real disrespect for the uniform!
Hahahahaha LMAO ex Australian veteran served Iraq and Solomon's island campaign we run ge general entry I'm ge187 then mos we call rate ie stoker I was abmtesm your statement made my week funny as
I accept a mom, dad or lover to show support, they should just be prepared to answer questions. And nothing but love sent to who is serving, you're there advocate and could lighten the blow on what their loved one may think as catastrophic.
The va card thing is a joke to me. I've taken my dad to the clinic 3 times now and he is still trying to get his shit and he is a vietnam vet....I know he has applied multiple time before and been rejected I think because of income, and we have never had money. I see vets climbing out of nicer cars than we have ever dreamed of owning and walking right in.
Most don't really know shit about the AF. Everyone knows like Platoon, Company, Battalion, Infantry, Ranger, Special Forces etc. There's so many shows and movies with Marine Corps and Army people can draw from to be a faker. There isn't that with the Air Force.
If they do, they were the "parascue" or airforce special forces & ect. Samething with the Army, Marines & navy. Seal, Raider, Recon, Green Beret & ect.
I am a Navy veteran 83-87. While in the bar on base one night a young man came in wearing a patch that got looks from some others right away. I was not close enough to see what the patch said but one guy called the young man a so&so and asked why he was wearing it. The young man said he was on base visiting his uncle and that he was born not long after his dad died in Vietnam and he always wore it for him. In respect for his father the young man was saluted. He was then baught drinks. Worse thing that happened to the young man, he got trashed. We just never know why some people wear some things of the military. That's why we need to use caution if we are going to ask questions. ( Unles they are decked out in a bunch of medals or something.)
From what I read on the act its only a crime to present medals or ribbons for benefits. It might be a crime if you gain benefits from the uniform itself but I'm not sure. Reading the stolen valor act of 2013 it seems to only cover medals
I had someone give me 20 questions while at the airport. I had my late husbands dog tags on ( under my shirt) . I had to turn them to my back going through security. A man saw them and continued to ask me soo many questions. I let him know my husband had just died a month ago in Afghanistan. And he wanted details . I told the man he could look him up on line. And the guy accused me of lying. I got no discounts no special treatment , just wanted to go to my plane . Already been through hell dealing with Dover , and funeral etc. And before someone thanks me for husbands service , he was a contractor ( pest control). He still died there and is missed every day.
I'm sorry for your loss. Wear your husbands tags with pride. You earned the right...if someone questions you, tell them to phukoff! You don't have to answer to anyone. You're a Gold Star wife.
I'm an Army retiree and disabled vet. As far as businesses giving discounts, most ask to see an ID card or a VA card, something to verify status as a veteran. When I see someone wearing a uniform that doesn't seem right, I just smile and walk away.
I've seen too many businesses that don't check. I always make it a point to tell the person giving me a discount or special deal to please check my ID.
Being a disabled veteran and a senior citizen, when I ask if there is any discount I always provide my VA card and drivers license. I always pay no attention to anyone wearing part of a uniform.
I am a restaurant manager and I give discounts to vets and families. The vets get a standing discount of 1% off for every year they can prove they served with a minimum of 5% off. They get a free drink or free desert with every meal and on Veteran's day a vet gets the whole meal for free. Also if a vet brings in their family members on veteran's day up to three of them will get a free desert or free drink. Active service personnel get the same discount but extended to their spouse and children. As for ID, I'll accept anything reasonable. I have a short list of regulars who have brought in copies of their service record to get the bigger discounts for those who served more than 5 years. But if they show me a document that gives their rank or grade then I can sometimes extrapolate from that how long they served as often I can find that info on the internet. I know it's not an exact science but I'm also not an expert on the military. I just figure they deserve a little more consideration. We have this one old guy who lost both legs in battle on D-Day. He eats free period. If it's memorial day and you are a military widow you get a free meal. My mother got widows benefits from the VA so I know any widow of a vet can show me her paperwork. Basically I will take anything she got mailed to her from the VA showing she is a widow of a vet. I've probably been scammed once or twice. I get a lot of people who try. We have a little sign that says "ASK ABOUT VETERAN'S DISCOUNTS" So a lot of people will take advantage of such things. The thing is they are usually easy to spot. A real vet usually won't wear any kind of uniform to the restaurant but often they have a sort of baseball cap with something on it that commemorates the unit they were in. One guy has the name of his ship on his cap and another guy has the name of his army unit though I can't remember what they were. Occasionally a vet will wear a T-shirt with some mention of their unit on them. But actual uniforms are rare except with active service personnel and we don't get a lot of them because we are not close to any bases except Coast Guard. While I'm not an expert, I've seen enough uniforms to get a pretty good idea when a scam artist is standing in front of me. They almost always don't have a name tag. they usually don't have the insignia on straight. Most of the time they have more medals and insignia and ribbons than a North Korean field marshal. Most of the time they don't have a military haircut. Often they have beard growth. But the biggest thing is they rarely have bearing, a term I recently learned and honestly, vets tend to present themselves a certain way that civilians like myself just don't.
@@nunyabiznez6381 First of all, let me thank you for honoring my brother/sister veterans as you do. Next, you're absolutely right about real veterans having "bearing." It is instilled in us from the beginning and most of us still have it as a matter of pride in our service and in our selves. I don't go anywhere without a cover on, as melanoma ran in our family and the only caps I wear are Army caps, bought for me by family members. Some veterans may not have any documentation, especially if they only served one enlistment or are old geezers (like me) and were drafted. Typically, those of us who are retired will have at least a retired ID card. In my case, as I'm disabled, I also have a VA ID card and am a life member of the VFW. So again, thank you for taking the time to write and to honor veterans at your establishment.
@@daviddubin4654 I've accepted VFW membership documents as well as American Legion though I don't see a lot of American Legion guys any more. Did you guys merge or did the American Legion just go out of business. My Dad was a member of both. My grandmother was auxiliary as my grandfather was a vet of the Great War. I'd do more if I could but my boss would fire me.
KFC should offer a range of service medals for their staff! :) -Definitely one for having to clean toxic bathrooms beyond the call of duty. -maintaining a calm demeanour whilst dealing with a Karen.
The "Stolen Valor Act" makes impersonating an active duty or veteran illegal WHEN using that impersonation to gain an entitlement/ benefit they would not otherwise be entitled to. JUST wearing the uniform is NOT actionable in and of itself. But something as weasily as getting a military discount WOULD count.
My son went to “Summer Camp” with the USMC. It’s located in Paris Island, S.C. and he said that they had such a great time that he still has dreams about his DI occasionally even after eight years. The sand fleas crawling in his eyeballs while his DI encouraged him was one of his favorite activities.
Some of these self-appointed "stolen valor" police need to research the Stolen Valor Act and learn what it really means, and not what they want it to mean. I, personally, suspect the nature of some of their own service.
Totally agree. Stolen Valor Warriors.. come at me like that and I I will not only wanna Knock your (figuratively)teeth down your throat, but I also ask your name, Unit, and First Sergeant or First Line Supervisors name, cause he ans I are gonna have a little chat about the professionalism of his troops
True. Freedom isn't free. But there are many that don't want to pay, but they want all the benefits that we helped secure for them. Sometimes it burns me up.
@@dougtheeliminator1077 ya they switched it when they implanted the military ID with a chip. .i went in 2008 and it was still considered relatively new.... Kind of like the chip on a credit card
Yes it’s common practice to make soldiers aware of AR 670-1 which covers uniform/appearance regulations. The CAC card, or Common Access Card is a new version of the military Id with a computer chip for computer access depending on your cyber clearances
The difference between you, Jameson, and these guys is that you are confident in yourself. You are not defined by your service years alone. These guys, much love and respect to them, seem to take these things very personally.
Yep. With all respect, being in the militray does not necessarily mean someone is even equipped to graduate college, so these aren't CIA agents walking around.
My hubby doesn’t like to even get gas... while in his uniform. Heaven forbid if we stop by the grocery store... he’ll stay in the car! He says no unnecessary stops or trips into public locations should be done in his “working uniform”
My boyfriend is the same way. He doesn’t even like to use his discounts either. He doesn’t like to draw attention to himself and I completely understand.
Not military here but my pilot uniform is strictly worn when flying or getting off work or on my way to work. I dont like drawing attention to myself or having to talk to people about it. I'll never wear it if I don't have to, im sure being military is even more of a reason to not want to wear it. Ive been around family wearing their military uniform and every other person stops to say thanks. Im sure its appreciated but id imagine it would be annoying if you just want milk. I get stopped enough in my uniform, I cant imagine if I was military as well haha. Most people wearing it around all the time have a strange obsession with needing attention.
@If_U_Don't_Snipe You're_A_Puss_Puss you’re missing the point. It doesn’t matter if it actually happened or not but the message is still valid, same thing with the story of little red riding hood . The message was to not trust strangers etc it doesn’t matter that it’s not a real event that happened
If someone wants to dress up and play soldier that’s fine by me, that comes from living in a free country, where I draw the line is when they are conning people out of money or taking benefits meant for real soldiers.
Yeah I agree. I dress in different BDUs every now and then and get together with my friends to play airsoft or paintball. Though I make it a strict rule not to wear anything in public because I don't want to cause trouble. I even contemplate whether or not I should come in my BDU pants or change at my destination, because I don't even like wearing those in public. And if anyone asks, I make sure they know Im wearing them as part of a hobby, and that Im not trying to claim benefits, or that Im a vet.
This stolen valor thing is awfully odd, from both sides of the argument. It's odd to play dress up as an adult but it's extremely weird to go round accosting people and asking for ID because of it.
You have to be careful with calling people out. Someone tried calling me out at the VA while I was an inpatient and in a hospital gear in my personal wheelchair. All because I couldn't remember the name of the hole at the top of the parachute. Oops, 20+ years later life moved on. I haven't forgotten since though. It pissed me off so bad that it is seared in my brain now. That's what I get for having Airborne tattoos.
FYI you can get a vetren identifier on you state ID in most states by providing your DD214. I personally don't want to be showing my DD214 to strangers that contains personal info
Yea, I got berated too because I got out 21 years ago and said I was a PR4 which I was referring to as an E4. I was typing so fast that I missed that! People need to settle the f*&K down. Shit, I carry my DD214 in a pdf on my phone so I can prove it and I have Veteran at the bottom of my Drivers License. You can only get that by showing your DD214 to Secretary of State
Yep, it’s also amazing asking drunk people for their “CAC” but fuck with them by making sound like cock. Do what you can to be entertained for 4 hours.
Not exactly. A contractor, civilian employee and other people with base access also get a CAC, it has thier DOD ID number on it, doesn't necessarily make them a soldier.
@@shitboxoffroad yeah, a lot of ex south Vietnamese vets either served with or in the US military before or after the fall of Saigon. I wouldn't confront guys like that because you honestly don't know what type of vet they even are. Like are they ex US backed ROC Chinese vets.
@@MrJetFormation Being in a position to call someone out is a power trip many enjoy. As a vet myself I can understand why some vets want to call out people walking around in full kit or explicitly claiming they are in the service while looking very dodgy. But in some cases calling people in civies out on the account that they have a non unit-specific patch or something is just overzealous. I have seen American tourists in Russia and China walking around with the old Soviet Army fur cap or a fake version of the Chinese army comrade cap with the little red star. Imagine if each and every one of them needs to be called out and asked whether they were actually Party Members or active duty People's Liberation Army soldiers.
I was a Ranger but i got caught by an Imperial ambush while trying to sneak across the border. Woke up later in the back of a carriage accompanied by some Stormcloak prisoners and a horse thief who said he was from Rorikstead. They shot him when he tried to escape, they would have had my head too if it wasn't for that dragon.
@@AlejandroSantiago-kn6dg na i did i swear i went to the training camp in florida then done a whole 2 years milsim on xbox under corpral your_momsswagger part of b squadren alpha parachute failed deployment clean up task force black i got seventeen purple squares and one promotion to stagg serg we xoiod clean up isle six quicker than gandie cpild cross the desert
I was getting yelled at for stolen valor back in highschool for being in dress uniform had inspection that day so had to wear it all day went to Starbucks with friends after school but you can clearly see the JROTC Fighting Colt Battalion patch on the shoulder 😂
Same, I wore the dress uniform after school and cashier told me I shouldn't wear that but then showed them the patch and they seemed embarresed and just walked away from the drive through window . . .
I get that too, when I wear my Civil Air Patrol uniform. Which is why unless it is Veteran's Day and I am going to an event, or doing a Flag Ceremony/Funeral where I am doing something related to a vet, I don't wear it outside of activities. If I am on the way to or from an event, I will wear it, otherwise, no bueno. If you stop for very long anywhere, you gotta change out of your uniform. I was in the Marine Corps JROTC, back in High School and had the same thing back then, with two accusing me of stolen valor, this was back in 2003, and I was at the Youth Action Center right after getting out of Rifle Team practice. So, yeah, they made assumptions, even though the JROTC has very clear markings, to let you know, it is not an active military uniform.
@Ethan Poertner - BTEC Student Yup, we did the same thing. Anytime someone said that, I just say thank you, and move on. I do the same thing as a security guard, as people mistake me for a police officer all the time. If they say thank you for my service, I say your welcome. However, if they say thank you police officer, I say your welcome, but I am a security officer. That way I both say thanks, but also correct it, so I don't get accused of "pretending" to be a police officer, as that is a felony.
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CAC is a Common Access Card. AKA Military ID.
Jamesons Travels common access card CAC
Nairda 9713 you win
They need military I’d no matter what for a 1.25 discount
They do teach and enforce the memorization of dress codes and MCOs.
As a 4 times Medal of Honor recipient and senior staff airman sergeant in the coast guard this triggers me
lol. i got a good laugh out of that one,.
4 times? Try 17 medals of honor, 4 silver stars, 21 bronze stars and 217 purple hearts, as a 10 star general in the space force I am disappointed
As a plainclothes Federal Inspector, with Special Forces training on detection and stuff,,
I accuse you both of stolen velour.
@@elcruzer5514 stolen velour. LOL
@@mattfromwiisports8723 brother you are sleeping on the job.
Before I joined after high school, I used to wear my dad's old uniforms that he wore in Vietnam. I wore them, because I thought they were cool, plus I wore them for the pride I felt for my dad. However, I never told anyone that I served. I told them that it was my dad's uniform, but I was joining after I graduated. Nobody ever gave me crap about wearing them.
we all used to wear old bdus or family military gear as kids playing in the woods. the new stolen valor worries every remote thing military is to much.
u were a kid tho, to young, its like if you see a dude wearing a Napoleon costume
Yea but you were in High school and not begging for money
@@bridge-nu4vm Noted, but I do understand how someone might want to feel a moment of honor. I remember walking into to bars in Georgia and being served alcohol before I was old enough. Even in my civs, they knew I was a soldier. They'd say, if you're old enough to die for this country you're old enough to drink. I also remember a friend that I grew up with. He bawled like a baby the day they told him he couldn't join because he had bad heart. He was an eagle scout, our leader. Greatest tactician I ever knew. We won every capture the flag battle, because of his leadership. A great soldier that never got to be. Let them have their moment of glory. We served so that they could.
They're not trying to dishonor us. They want to be us.
I did 2 tours in the civil war in 1865 under General Lee
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Napoleon was my co 😜
1st Bat. Screaming Muskets
I know ,isaw you,,
we were in the same company
What confederate fort?
My (ex) wife's uncle was a Vietnam vet. When we got married he wanted to give us something but he didn't have much. So he gave us his jacket. I don't wear it often, but when I do, I do it to honor his desire to be generous. There is no stencil, no insignia, no flag, no patches, just a very sturdy olive green jacket with great pockets. I don't pretend to be anything I'm not.
Um...I guess...uh thank you for your service?
@@1badsteedOr, here’s a novel concept, he’s not looking for anything from anyone. He’s wearing something he wants to wear and not trying to come up on anything. As if a “thanks” from a dude who looks like he belongs on a certain registry is worth anything of value. Ha!
I Served 8 Years Under Captain Price.
Brother!
Lol
Soap?
Time for a little argy-bargy
Jackson is that you?!?!
“My grandfather was a clone in the 401st ranger platoon and fought in the clone wars”
I call bullshit, everybody knows it was the 501st who fought in the clone wars, I'd appreciate it if you would take off your armor and hand over your lightsaber.
Oh yeah? I served in the 212 attack battalion under General Obi Wan Kenobi and was injured on Umbara by a stray crab droid, sonny boy.
Silver Chariot Requiem I thank you for your service
My grandfather did too. Maybe they met😂.
Very good 😊
CAC, common access card, it's the nowadays military Id, but also has some electronic functions for personal information.
Only for active or reserve. Not for people who have already been discharged
@@JacobEcret no retirees get a CAC when they get out, it is known as the DD Form 2 (retiree ID), and it gives them access on base because it has the scannable bar code on the back.
I am a civilian contractor and I have a CAC.
John Smith okay, I just did some reading up on it and that’s what I got from it, I stand corrected. Thank you for the information
John Smith but I didn’t say retirees get a cac. I actually said they didn’t get one.
It's not against the law to wear the uniform. It's only against the law to profit or benefit from stolen Valor... You can walk into any army surplus store and buy all the stuff
It could be articulated that if they're out in public in it, they're trying to get some kind of gain from it. Why else would you wear it? It's pretty established at this point that you're going to attract unwanted attention
@@598bryce You can’t just arrest someone on an assumption.
@@chandlerh2408 If you're out in public like a mall, restaurant, some place people go to spend money and you wear a military uniform when you're not military, that's enough to articulate stolen Valor, write a report, submit it to the judge and then leave it up to him/her to issue a warrant for that person's arrest.
@@598bryceyou're absolutely incorrect. What you said was like saying if you're in a parking lot it can be articulated that you are about to break into a car.
@@598bryceExactly, they'll waltz into a bar or restaurant hoping for a bit of sympathy, maybe put on a limp, not saying but implying ex combat vet injured in the line of duty, down on their luck, waiting for a" Hi buddy let me buy you a beer"
Successful fraud taken place..
The problem is they need to wear the uniform to achieve this fraud, 99% of the time, Ex-miltary would never walk around wearing their old uniform
"What unit were you with?"
"G unit sir."
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You win
DeD😂😂
Um. Excuse me. Its g-g-g-g-G-Unit!
Outstanding! 😂😂
I served honourably under Julius Caesar at the Battle of Gettysburg in Warsaw France. See here is my VA card, I was a machine gunner
Original joke
I myself served with the Japanese Marines under General Erwin Rommel during the Battle of Falludja.
thank you for your service sir
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Thank you for your service 🙏
“I did Morse code: DEE, DEE, DAH, DAH, BOOP, BAH, BEE. You know the thing.”
That guy was classic. A coms guy with limited communication skills.
Come on man, you know the thing
Yeah, when they suddenly go R2D2 on you.
Atleast the dude had on a Third Class Petty Officer insignia and wasn't try to be a MCPON.
@@JamesonsTravels My daughters mom is Hmong and she thinks that 2nd guy looks like he is Lao...I don't think he has the English skills (sad after being in country for so long) to properly explain what his involvement in the Vietnam war actually was. He probably can't go back due because his clans involvement with the CIA...they were probably wiped out by the Khamer Rouge or some shit. In fact I just checked with her and she says her clan is still hunted in the mountains for their involvement to this day.
The "whatever" MOS is my favorite 😂
Get that Article 15 and you become whatever they ask u to do
The Marine Corps had a "Whatever MOS". That was for newly minted 1LT's with little or no officer training just getting back to The States after Battlefield Commission in an active warzone! The MOS was 2876 in 2011!
The first guy served in the 1st Extreme Coupon Division. He can recount his days during Black Friday storming the doors of Walmart.
@Epoxygleu Glad to see that he survived the Battle of Bestbuy.
Ha ha ! Yes he did. Thanks for the laugh, you made my day.
Man, I remember being told about that day when I was doing the Crucible. That man is a war hero!
LMAO ,best comment
oh my god a just spit ma beer oot at this comment thanks for the laugh :P
As a former knight of the round table, I'm triggered.
"Excalibur! Be my strength!" [whips out Camelot CAC card]
This is a disgrace to my late Commander Admiral Ackbar
Same
@@ArtVandelayOfficial omg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a former member of the Grand army of the Republic, I'm triggered
"I don't know what my job was I just did whatever."
Me thinking about my time as an 11B. "Same"
She was a peach. I just did whatever. It wa fun. Like she was picking activities from a vacation cruise.
@@JamesonsTravels shit i wasn't allowed in because of my shaky hands they said that i couldn't have shaky hands at a range so i was disqualified but i am going to join the local volunteer fire department my great grandpa would of been pissed with these fakers though he was a B-26 Marauder pilot in the army air corps ww2 451st 322nd he flew many b26s the one i remember he told me about is the Sarah E, but anyhow if he saw these fakers knowing him as well as i do that faker would of got hurt
@@JamesonsTravels i just remembered he also flew Flak Bait
I remember the time I was a 2B. I was never very sharp.
@@JamesonsTravels from what I heard you say is you don't know what a cac card is it is a millitary common access card it shows proof you are millitary
We had a guy who got a section 8 discharge, he got naked and started swimming in a duck pond in Germany when we were stationed and the German police picked them up took him to a psych ward and that was the start of his journey on a section 8 out of the military before our second deployment
Sec 8 is the pre-conclusion of mental defect. Sec. 13 is after determination which leads to a Sec. 23 or Sec. 25 General or Less Than Honorable Separation!
When my daughter graduated boot camp at Ft Jackson she gave me a gray ARMY t-shirt as a gift. It's my favorite shirt. She was just through the toughest 8 weeks of her life, had practically no money - and still went to the gift shop for her family. I don't wear it so people think I was in the Army. I wear it because she gave it to me. I wear it because I'm proud of her.
Over the last 6 years I've been stopped by people saying thank you for your service - which I always explain it's my daughter - and that one time some douchecanoe started questioning my MOS - in the airport - in front of a lot of people ... and I had to pull him aside and explain through my teeth about the shirt. Pissed me off.
I have a Red Sox t-shirt too. People don't think I'm a baseball player. These guys need to chill out. People can wear an Army T-Shirt or a jacket without having to explain themselves. It's not a uniform.
I'm sorry, but even that grey Army t-shirt your daughter gave you is part of our uniform. It is not a part of our BDU(Battle Dress Uniform), but it is a part of our PT(Physical training) uniform.
@Pauly Gambino I never said it was wrong or that it bothered me. I still own a pt shirt that I wear around just as a t-shirt and I've been out of the army for 10 years. I was just informing the individual that it is indeed a part of our uniform.
Heh, I had a guy try to embarrass me saying that I wasn't an ex serviceman and my medals (All four of them 😂) were fake at a Remembrance Day parade despite three of my medals being named to me and having my original regimental membership card from 1985 which was in pieces almost and held together with fablon. He still wouldn't have it no matter how much I argued my point 😂😂😂
@@shawnl.broylesjr.4010 they sell them all day a Goodwill for work shirts. You'd probably get you ass whooped
@@dirtyhorse5090 what in my 2 previous comments would cause someone to try to whoop my ass. And that's a big try.
I spent about 7 months stocking at Walmart, was dishonorably discharged for taking naps in the toilet paper section
So it's your fault that the toilet paper section was overun by Karen's and no one could get TP last year....TP Traitor !
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Hopefully on the snuggle soft TP and not the sandpaper single ply 😳😳😳😳
Toilet paper is a serious commodity, highly valuable.. thank you for your service
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"Im a master chief, I served 12 years in the human-covenant war"
Wow hard life man, imagine serving under Capt Jean-Luc Picard on the USS Enterprise.
@@cazbantu4233 whos that?
@@thecolombian7536 The captain from Star Trek
@@cazbantu4233 lol
@@cazbantu4233 How many years on Klendathu though?
There's a vet that comes into my store. Dude is Korean-American, retired from the Marines then did a stent with the Navy. Now he's been in school for like 10 years. He's old dude and now just likes to learn all sorts of things. He's bad ass even as an old dude... Semper-fi
I was a window gunner at a McDonald’s in Detroit. I don’t talk about it much, though. A lot of people lost their lives and an ice cream machine was destroyed.
Best comment so far. I respect our troops because my grandpa served in the 101st in WWII but these comments are amazing
LMAO
Oh I remember you guys. You were the ones that dethroned the Burger King during the war of fries right? lol. Your comment just made me laugh, thanks for lightening my day :)
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I had to come back again today, to read that comment again,🤣😂🤣 why? Because it is bloody hilarious🤣😂🤣😂✌️
I had some angry 60-something guy call me out for wearing a Navy hat. He asked me when I served and I told him I didn't....I come from a Navy family (father = 30 yrs and brother = 20 yrs). He accused me of stolen valor. I hate stolen valor but wearing a friggin hat doesn't qualify.
That kind of stuff is silly. Wear what you want. The stories and fakers are what get people. For me its the beggers who lie for money that get it.
@@JamesonsTravels I've worked in the bar/restaurant industry for quite a while now and I know enough to occasionally call out the faker who's trying to milk it. Last year I busted a guy for using his dad's military ID to get a discount (the ID was from 1975). I tore him a new one.
What is the actual definition of stolen valour like one item like a hat or does it need a full kit ?
Like this guy wearing a navy hat but not in a context of using that hat to get monetary gain does that count as stolen valour ?
Army related stuff has always fused with “ fashion “ as such.
Growing up in northern England late 80’s loads of teens wore German army style jackets obviously that’s not army original but my question is where do you draw the line ?
Jameson what do you reckon ?
@@JamesonsTravels Couldn't agree with you more on this.
@@thesatisfiedcustomer4869 The actual definition of Stolen Valor is making fraudulent claims of military services for monetary gains or other benefits. So claiming you very in the military when you never were, claiming you're a retired Brigadier General when you got out as a Private First Class, or claiming so award you never got for the specific reason of gaining something from your claims
I served 5 years on USS Enterprise under Captain Jean-Luc Picard. People often question me about my MOS when I wear my Federation uniform out, I tell them talk to me when u fought in a Klingon War.
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good one hahahahaha
Everyone know Captain James T Kirk was the captain of the USS Enterprise during the Klingon wars.
Hope you wasn't one of the crew that gets killed every episode. 😄😄😄
Funny. Klingin War!
Your commentary is comedy gold my friend 😂 always a pleasure lending an ear
I served 7 years on the USS Enterprise under Captain James T Kirk.
AND SPOCK WAS MY X.O.
Thank you for your service. 🖖
That's nothing... I proudly served under Capt'n Crunch in the Navy!
@@stefaneer9120 what does the T stand for?
Tiberius
I like how level headed you are about this, even calling out the people who are filming sometimes
Yeah me to, Also I mean They gotta be wrong sometimes to youd think ya know? some are good and fair though but yeah just depends.
Like that first guy in the first video I dont know maybe that guy was legit who knows.Most arent but yeah.
I was a bad ass Navy Seal, my rank was; Senior Master Gunnery Sargent General ... I was a big deal, until my PlayStation got unplugged Lol!! ... I was stationed at camp Livingroom; Remote Control Operator; Refrigeration Navigation
See I was a member of devgru (developed every video game ritual utopia)
😂😂😂 I’m so envious! I salute you Senior Master gunnery sergeant general bad ass! Nice bunker! Looks just like Mom and Dads basement! Following seas to you and may your beer always be ice cold!👍👍😂
@@papabrtrk I wholeheartedly thank you dearly for the honor and salute, means so much more than my secret service for the navy .... it was so classified, I didn't even know I was a seal
Best comment on here
Lol
Section 8 was a category of discharge from the United States military, used for a service member judged mentally unfit for service. Section 8 was also often given to cross-dressers, gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people.
“What pay grade is that, E6?”
“Uh, G9....”
Lmao
You sunk my battleship!
LMAOOOO
My english is pretty bad so would you pleas explane me that pay-grade "E..:" stuff? In our millitary E or OR is for the UN rank classification. Maybe i mix that up due to the fact i didnt catch the link between pay-grade and that letter E. If its about the actual pay you get i guess its because we use BBesO (for me for example) it would have been A 7mA.
Scr7n 7z Army Well the point is there is no G9, the guy was clearly making it up when the other guy was asking him if he was an e5 or e6 to try to sound like he knew what he was talking about but he ended up showing he had no clue lmao.
Also E6 is a rank which has a pay grade associated just like with all ranks but the guy clearly didn’t know that so it was a good laugh
@@foberdud7576 Thanks mate, i think i got it now.
Correct me if iam wrong but if i got it right in american systhem i (obfw) would be E-5 ; A 7mA?
Sounds simple, no wonder you guys had to lought at that point. :D
And finaly i get the battleship joke from Mango Man too... xD
I’m not defending these guys but some of them look like they have actual mental issues...
im with you, but its surely about mcdonalds discounts or getting girls
@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath Veterans deserve our respect and adoration but these guys are clearly not firing on all cylinders. It doesn't take anything away from your service it doesn't make anyone believe your service was cheap or easy. Let them walk around looking like the fools they are don't let some mentally ill man attached too an adolescent fantasy ruin your day and let's just remember that not every person who served saw combat or risked their lives. If you were a cook in the Navy and want too smash some guy for wearing a fake uniform maybe that's YOUR insecurity
Yeah those are the ones that get on my nerves
Nah,you still gotta call em out,dont let em get those discounts and stuff.
Agreed, how about starting with some compassion. Find out if it’s stolen valor, or valor by proxy? I don’t have a va card either.
You can tell Jamesons is the man. He's not bothered by anything. Thank you for your service sir 🇺🇲
'Maybe he just pulled an all nighter' that made me laugh.
I am a veteran, and I gave all my stuff to the Salvation Army or to Goodwill over the years. If I saw someone wearing my field jacket or anything else, I would leave them alone. I would only get upset about someone claiming to be a military hero for money.
That is kinda not the problem here though, you see all the people at a store, public transit (they also give discounts to vets in my city) or parking lots. Clearly these guys are going out with the idea of getting something for being in their uni.
Do you want a pat on the back??
@@AllyMonsters So what? They get a few cents off that Burger King burger. Big deal. Stop being a Karen and leave these poor souls alone.
@@viking956 They aren't stealing money in a normal sense, they are stealing goodwill and charity from other people that earned it.
@@AllyMonsters Oh come on Karen. You gotta do better than that. People complement and honor veterans because it makes THEM feel good, not because of whatever any particular vet fees about such complements. And if somebody is so inclined to fake veteran status to get a free meal at Applebees on Veteran's Day? So what. That kind of stuff is not worth getting all upset about. Now of course if someone does this to defraud the taxpayer of funds earmarked for veterans' benefits, that's a horse of a different color. But from what I've seen, it's mainly people just out playing soldier. Let'em have their fun, they're not hurting anyone.
I'm the most successful kamikaze pilot of all time 27 successful missions
Hehe plane go brr
Fucking hilarious. 27? This is the best comment on here! I'm dead
LOL deceased! 27 slams into the ocean, land or ships!
@@ChristopherSaindon managed to take out 3 jet skis and an old lady having a paddle in the water
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I'm a vet, run a surplus store. The only time stolen valor is a crime is if you're using it for financial gain or to garner benefits (like VA benefits, disability pay). Anyone can wear military uniform, dress, utilities, properly or improperly, that is part of the first amendment, freedom of expression. It is illegal to impersonate a federal agent, but AGAIN, only if you're using it to gain favor or to coerce someone. Know the law before you cite it.
Very well said. I love to shop at the surplus stores and buy gear. I never wear uniform, but I like the BDU pants the Woodland pattern. I like the K-Bar knife too and the jungle boots. It is great to go camping and do outdoors stuff. I have never owned the Blouse (top) as I think that it will be a bit misleading.
Ehhh it’s really a grey area “impersonating” a gov official is very loosely worded intentionally. Sure you can wear BDU, ODU whatever but putting your name, a flag, service branch all that can be construed as “stolen Valour”
@@gabriellandry1962 not in the US. Its only Stolen Valor if you use it "with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.". US v Alvarez determined that wearing an unearned uniform or medals or anything like that is covered by the first ammendment, its only a crime if they use it to gain any tangible thing or benefit like a discount or free shit or whatever
@Trevor S might have to do with how he discharged. Honorable, dishonorable, ECT Also dishes server his term all the way? Those questions/factors might be crucial otherwise Idk?
You’re allowed to wear Army Uniforms that are unauthorized (bdu, acu and PT) just don’t go around asking for money or discounts. Now, if you start wearing authorized Army OCP’s or PT then it’s a problem, even more if you start parading around asking for discounts and shit. Also, you can’t wear authorized Army uniform with civies. I see alot of lower enlisted(pvts) wearing the PT shirt and some jeans on post. Can’t do that, now if you’re doing some type of off post PT or even on post and your CO allows the troop or Battery to do that, then you can. It all falls under AR 670-1, uniform standards and grooming standards.
Section 8 is freaking government housing lmaoo
I’m convinced some of these people who call out stolen valour would totally call out someone coming back from airsoft or paint balling 😂😂😂
I was thinking the same thing , my paintball jersey is camouflage 😂
Some of them would stand on the tarmac and challenge guys stepping off a military transport returning from a tour
Oh you know it.
I've seen it. Somebody posted calling stolen Valor on reddit cuz a dude wore a PJ patch on his cammies for airsoft
Agreed. For Paintball and Airsoft I wear a real ACU in Pencott Greenzone rather than Multicam or OCP so they don't mistake any intent.
The guy with the leather jacket is not stolen valor. There are a ton of people who wear army shirts and navy hats. You can support the troops without being stolen valor. It’s only when you try to pretend to be something you see not.
Thanks for clarifying it
I have to tell you if you are wearing patches and other insignia to the point where it look close enough to fool people into thinking its real its still a crime not military support. The same goes for any municipal police officer as well. The person could be charged with military or police impersonation which IS a Felony and or Federal offence. Look it up and youll find the exact verbage or legal language.
They are asking for V.A cards because most of these violators are older so the should have one if they served and are of a certain age. But thats not the most important thing that they ask. How do you not know what your M.O.S is in the military? Thats literally what your job is for the military. They cant tell you that then they ARE FULL OF MALARKEY
@@shozinryu4 I'm a vet and don't have a veteran's card. It's not mandatory. The Navy doesn't have an MOS. These videos are mostly humorous.
@@shozinryu4 Neither the Navy or Air Force uses the term MOS. Air Force uses "Air Force Specialty Code" and the Navy uses "rate". Only the Marine Corps and Army call it MOS.
Next time I see a dog at the dog park wearing a camo bandana I'm making a stolen Valor video
@blake bishop lmao Dog ends up having a huge ribbon rack 🤣
Pfft, I saw a baby wearing camo. You better believe me, I tore it off an held the baby up to my face an yelled at it till he pooped himself......needles to say he'll never wear camo again.......these stolen valor guys are getting to be the Karen's of armed forces to me
@blake bishop he better know his MOS and have his v.a card
@@manaarias4298 LMFAO! That would make an awesome prank video
The difference between stolen valor and just wearing it is what you take from it, if you just need clothes it's not a big deal but if you claim to be part of any branch without actually being such, then that is stolen valor.
These old guys trying to pass off as military and not realizing that there are no old timers with the rank of E1-E4.
The CAC is "Common Access Card" the newer military ID also issued to DOD, and Contract Employees
Thank you. 👍
This
Is this a good way to verify someone's service? Way too too many guys claim to be in the marine corps as a pick up line and I never know what to say.
What does DOD stand for and what kind of roles do contract employees work? Sorry dont know much about military
@@arcticdream4905 thanks mate, im guessing the 3rd party employees are like admin/maintenance?
As an enlisted general (E1), served in the fighter wing of the navy seals, flying an A-10 Stealth Fighter and being a Sniper, I can say these guys are clearly fake.
You bet General Quarters ! You said (typed) a mouthful !!! Ha ha !
General D., You are clearly a brave veteran, and a truly luminous super patriot! Frank you floor your slurvice!
I shit A - 10 fighters! I flew with General Inspector Captain Thomas Cruise on several secret, some said Impossible missions.
This might be the best comment I've ever seen on one of these videos
I know this comment is humorous in nature - but I'm now sad because goddamn does a Stealth A-10 sound frickin AWESOME
That kid was about to say “this isn’t my vest”. Man Walmart sells shirts that say ARMY, Semper Fidelis etc. if the kid wants to wear the flag let him. He’s not wearing fatigues or medals or anything that would be considered stolen valor. Some of the people harassing everyone are just trying to go viral on the backs of the Stolen Valor trend and in my opinion that’s just as bad as someone faking their affiliation.
True. I just spend 8 years as a medic and got out. Shit like that I wouldn't even look twice, yet i've seen "stolen valor" videos where someone wore some utility pants (which for almost any handy work are pretty damned useful) and some other ass hat who did JROTC comes screaming at em "STOLEN VALOR!!!"
Impersonating a military officer is a crime, wearing camoflauge isn't
I agree dude
Stolen stolen valor.
@@shane8037 hahaha it’s true! People go crazy thinking they’re right and wanna show the world how right they are thinking everyone will agree with them and tell em “good job” Smfh. Validation is a hell of a drug.
CAC common access card. It's our ID also has a chip with all your credentials for logging into military computers/assets
I served 20 years under Captain Morgan and what a hang over that was .
I also was an imperial soldier Space Core and did a tour of Endor and Hoth.
I also forgot I did a tour in the Caribbean, I served under Captain Jack Sparrow.
My Second tour in space was for Captain James.T.Kirk and served on the USA Enterprise
Thank you for your service
LOLOLOL
I served under Captain Crunch and our Admiral was Count Chocula.....
Amazing Career
Well I didn’t serve under captain Morgan but I partied with him.
I was a 4 star admiral in the Marines and I just hate these imposters.
Gotcha. I was a 5 star General in the Navy
Yeah fakers suck. I was a chief petty officer 18D in the Army DEVGRU and CAG.
I was a 9 star general in the space Navy anti xenomorph force
@@mattmeyer99 hhahaha LOL
I'm a Lieutenant Admiral in the Air Force and I'm legitimately disgusted.
I served in the
27th Sweep Support Battalion
4th Broom Brigade
1st Janitor Division
Had a good laugh with this one lol
Send in the broom brigade we need to clean this shit up 😎
I was serving under Captain Nemo before you were even born
I didn't think there were other Toilet Force personnel hanging around.
I was in the bones brigade under officer Powell
One big concern I have is about how these people approach these fake serviceman.
Exactly, it's low hanging fruit to be aggressive towards senior's and people who seem to have mental disabilities.
Yeah the jackasses filming these need to learn what the actual law says. Wearing a uniform is not a felony...
“Whatever” MOS, 0000, “Roadguard” first out, last in, Semper Cautious.
Lol, I was a roadguard. Plt. 3045 PI 1983
Lol
What the what...”what was your MOS” she responds “I just did whatever”. My recruiter lied to me. I knew there was a job like that and I spent 24 years doing what they wanted. Ugh 🤦♂️. The humiliation.
The "Whatever MOS" only applies to officers that are O-3 and above.
Really think about it for a minute. Do you really wish the military had a whatever MOS. I've heard some weird stories from Vietnam vets, stuff people had to do because there wasn't a MOS that covered it
My personal favorite, burning the latrine barrels and somebody threw a can of hairspray in one. Unfortunately he wasn't able to get out the fallout zone
CAC card - common access card. It’s the newer ID with a RFID chip in it.
Woah there buddy cac card is common access card card
@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath Never said that. The last c in cac stands for card so when people say cac card they are saying common access card card.
I always carry my CAC Card along with my Debit Card Card
@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath i also want to know
@@helfire9562 everyone brings this up, but no one wants to go around asking to see people's CAC's
my MOS was 45D "Self-Propelled Field Artillery Turret Mechanic"
I once asked a guy what his MOS was he told me “wherever the CIA sent me” i just let him be and laughed!!!
Down here in Australia there’s a saying that goes “How do you know a guy doesn’t work for ASIO (our version of the CIA or NSA)? If you ask them if they work there, and they say yes, then they don’t...” 😂
Testing out my Halloween costume to see how it fits.
i was in the marine corps for 63 years i was a first class lieutenant sergeant, my MOS was 7th Division Marsoc ranger, and I served 6 tours in the SEALS battalion
Ah yes, I remember you, I was your commanding officer, Colonel General Field Marshall Jones!
@@vincentlok8894 COLONEL GENERAL FIELD MARSHAL JONES!!! I remember back in 2003 in Vietnam where you saved our platoon from those Black Ops Special Forces, after our Reconnaissance Submarine got hit by a space drone.
😂
Hilarious comment and replies!
I'm sure you could tell us more, but it's ultra top secret, like so top secret that you have to award and pin your own medals. It's a lonely life I'm sure....
If someone tells you they're in the CIA, they're not in the CIA lol
I’m an African American CIA
I'm not in the cia.😉
@@scottyj6226 that’s what someone in the CIA would say🤨🤨🤨
@@steffanjacob4930 pretty tricky eh.😏
@@scottyj6226 hahahha
MOS stands for Military Occupational Specialty, a system used by the military to categorize career fields and define roles and responsibilities for service members.
Some of the people "exposing" stolen valor are starting to act as stupid as the people they're trying to "expose"
Agreed!!!
yup I have an airborne ranger field jacket given to my brother (ssf himself) or me by the owner I wear it wit pride not deception I'm not impersonating I'm paying respect
@@scooterdogg7580 👍👍👍
theres a video on youtube im sure you can find it but theres this kid trying to film this vet on camera for stolen valor just because he was wearing camo pants haha. even if he wasnt a vet wearing camo pants isnt stolen valor.
I don’t have my VA card but I have my V card
“Why are you flying a flag outside your house? Were you in the military?” Good grief!!! It cost you ZERO DOLLARS to worry about yourself.
Sweep your own side of the street !
I went to a ship christening in Pascagoula, Mississippi for the USS James E. Williams. As a part of the ceremony everyone was provided with a ship coin and ship hat as a gift. I was 17 years old with the hat on and got ran up on by the stolen valor police at a country store on the same trip. The guy was asking me all these questions and got really pissed off. Thankfully my uncle, who was at the time a non retired Command Master Chief, came around the corner and rescued me. Moral of this story is listen to Jameson, not everyone has stolen valor intentions.
i was shooting a short film once, just a university students comedy film about a unit of dumbasses, think the video game battlefield bad company if you know what that is, really deadly soldiers who are complete dumbasses, obviously not realistic at all but our outfits were lovingly donated by his aunt who was ex military and owned a military surplus store, so our shit was a bit dated but looked the part, some asshole as we're on lunch back in town walking through the mall to the food court started drilling the shit out of me as i had snuck off to go to the bathroom, i kept repeating bro fuck off im an actor, we're shooting a film, but kept repeating "you know it's illegal to wear blah blah blah" im like bruh these aren't even standard CANADIAN uniforms!!! they were like 90s polish army or some shit, i was like are you fucking stupid, turns out he didn't serve, his family member did and this dude in particular acts like he's military. how did i find this out, his brother who WAS in the canadian military showed up and told him to fuck off and apologized. sometimes it's really isn't with any intentions at all
I live in Ms I can't believe that there's stuif like that it's always been ignored in a way
Yeah some people take social justice stolen valor too far. A hat or tee shirt is not stolen valor
@@nathanielbozeman7869 im much older now. it totally bummed me out though at the time. much respect to Mississippi overall! The people were great and the crawfish boils were awesome.
Mike Taylor that’s a horror story
That first guy seemed pissed off not just cause of the uniform but he’s also wearing his patch.
CAC Card = Common Access Card. It’s both your ID and the chip (like a credit card) allows you to log on to computers and open doors and stuff.
Most all Army troops know 670-1 is uniforms. You get it screamed at you when you’re jacked up.
CAC Common Access Card: Essentially military ID and it's also used for logging into DoD computers. Also encryption type stuff like signing emails as well as having your Tricare info on it, if you live in the dorms/barracks it's also used to get food from the DFAC.
@For Redwall 2 😂😂😂😂!!
Ah yes our CAC cards or Our Common Access Card cards. God I remember hearing that so much in BMT.
@For Redwall 2 you'd think with the internet and videos everywhere that these fakers would be better at this lol
I was wondering what the hell that meant. I've never heard of that but I served in 1995
@@reallife1977 Yeah, they started issuing them in 2001.
Everybody needs Morse Code operators who can't read, spell or understand English.
@Der Richtige Arzt I bet that son of a gun knows how to get every penny he can from your axes Arzt and were every church free meal is.....we work 12 hours a day and this guy is living large....he is smarter than us...Morse code or not dot dot dot dashhhhhhh.....
XD
@@BillMorganChannel I'm pretty sure what the man was saying, is he served in the Navy, in Laos, during Vietnam. Like, not the US-Navy. They in fact used Morse Code then, in some situations, due to being poor countries with weak commo systems. But that is besides the point, you do understand Mores Code can transmit messages in numerous languages? The original Morse code is an international endex.
In all fairness Morse Code doesn't have shit to do with English.
Thinking the same
Common Accsess Card. The CAC, a "smart" card about the size of a credit card, is the standard identification for active duty uniformed Service personnel, Selected Reserve, DoD civilian employees, and eligible contractor personnel. It is also the principal card used to enable physical access to buildings and controlled spaces, and it provides access to DoD computer network and systems.
Exactly.
I work at a Hotel. I have seen them when military checked in but I didn't know what they were called. Thank you for the detailed explanation. And yes when I can I give complementary upgrades and discounts to Military that show their CAC cards.
i think its a government id card because VA employees use them too but i believe the VA cac cards have an nfc chip in them. they use them to go into secured areas like the treatment side where the doors are locked until called. i want to say its not a military id but a government id. the government designation is on the cac card though like VA has the VA symbol, military branches have their branch designation on them. civilian contractors have their designation on them.
It sounds more like they are say CAT card to me. I have a CAC card, but my VA card is not chipped and it is literally called a “VA card” or a “VIC”...
My dog ate my CAC
3rd Corps Artillery, 212th Brigade, 2nd/5th Field Artillery Hua! 1996-2000
I'm an ARMY vet, I have never carried a card, I've worn bdu pants on many occasions, many of these people do have mental issues, I've helped the homeless and many were handed old hand me down uniform articles of clothing military issued, and my issue was always what vet threw their class A's away, or dumped off their field uniforms with name and rank still attached? There's the real disrespect for the uniform!
Very true
Some vets didn't like their time in the military and just threw them away
i sold mine lmao no use for that junk
Sometines it's just because the vet dies, and the family donates them because they dont know any better
Nobody asked or cares
top 3 MOS:
1. Surfing
2. Eating
3. Sleeping
Hahahahaha LMAO ex Australian veteran served Iraq and Solomon's island campaign we run ge general entry I'm ge187 then mos we call rate ie stoker I was abmtesm your statement made my week funny as
Sounds like you were in H&S Plt lol
"You can fight, or you can surf. And Charlie don't surf!"
My father was a disabled vet, he never carried his VA card, but then he never wore old uniforms around.
Also like the host said, not everyone will see the VA when they get out so not everyone will have a VA card
I wouldn't either having sided with the imperialists
@@romantic_hippie I went to the VA for my healthcare for over 2 years before I ever got a VA card. The only time I have it on me is if I go to the VA.
@@ryanwilson5301 I carry mine in my wallet but that's it. But like you said it's only for appointments lol
I accept a mom, dad or lover to show support, they should just be prepared to answer questions. And nothing but love sent to who is serving, you're there advocate and could lighten the blow on what their loved one may think as catastrophic.
I'm retired Army with 100% VA disability, but I don't have a VA Card. I must be a faker.
Do you get your health care at a V.A. hospital?
@@rudedogg6331 Yes I do. But I have blue retired military ID card so I don't need a VA card.
@@fiamedknuff amen brother
The va card thing is a joke to me. I've taken my dad to the clinic 3 times now and he is still trying to get his shit and he is a vietnam vet....I know he has applied multiple time before and been rejected I think because of income, and we have never had money. I see vets climbing out of nicer cars than we have ever dreamed of owning and walking right in.
Me as well usn med retire 100
You never see people impersonating an airman
Yeah you do
You don't see a lot of AF stuff in surplus stores.
Most don't really know shit about the AF. Everyone knows like Platoon, Company, Battalion, Infantry, Ranger, Special Forces etc. There's so many shows and movies with Marine Corps and Army people can draw from to be a faker. There isn't that with the Air Force.
@Pvt Read Not true, star wars land at Disney is full of them
If they do, they were the "parascue" or airforce special forces & ect. Samething with the Army, Marines & navy. Seal, Raider, Recon, Green Beret & ect.
I am a Navy veteran 83-87. While in the bar on base one night a young man came in wearing a patch that got looks from some others right away. I was not close enough to see what the patch said but one guy called the young man a so&so and asked why he was wearing it. The young man said he was on base visiting his uncle and that he was born not long after his dad died in Vietnam and he always wore it for him. In respect for his father the young man was saluted. He was then baught drinks. Worse thing that happened to the young man, he got trashed. We just never know why some people wear some things of the military. That's why we need to use caution if we are going to ask questions. ( Unles they are decked out in a bunch of medals or something.)
never should have bothered him at all
😂 lol
@@ronalddavis👌
As a knight of Templar this absolutely disgusted me
It’s not a “federal crime” unless you are trying to defraud or trying to gain a benefit
Did you mean defend :)
no its not a crime at all its a website that everyone puts their fake militery videos on.
From what I read on the act its only a crime to present medals or ribbons for benefits. It might be a crime if you gain benefits from the uniform itself but I'm not sure. Reading the stolen valor act of 2013 it seems to only cover medals
Unfortunately. Should be able to hang these lowlifes. Afraid to serve, but want the honor.
@@matthewl67 woah. Ok then
I had someone give me 20 questions while at the airport. I had my late husbands dog tags on ( under my shirt) . I had to turn them to my back going through security. A man saw them and continued to ask me soo many questions. I let him know my husband had just died a month ago in Afghanistan. And he wanted details . I told the man he could look him up on line. And the guy accused me of lying. I got no discounts no special treatment , just wanted to go to my plane . Already been through hell dealing with Dover , and funeral etc.
And before someone thanks me for husbands service , he was a contractor ( pest control). He still died there and is missed every day.
Prayers for you.
The brigade appreciate his service. A lot fewer roaches when he was around.
Why would a civilian contractor have dog tags?
I'm sorry for your loss. Wear your husbands tags with pride. You earned the right...if someone questions you, tell them to phukoff! You don't have to answer to anyone. You're a Gold Star wife.
@@sirstephen9825 Even Pmcs need to be identifiable if killed
Im a veteran and never wear my uniform to prove anything. The next time I wear my uniform, it'll be in my coffin.
The “Mr T” comment you made had me chuckling because the guys age and general vibe lead me to believe “Mr Low T” would be a fitting moniker 😂
I’m kind of offended that no one tries to impersonate a 2nd Class Aviation Maintenance Administrationman. I mean, what was I, chopped liver? 🚶🏻♂️
Jordan! Lol!! I know, right? AMS3 here, no love for us is there? Nobody steals valor from the airedales do they? Rofl!!!
@@marksroberts4880 I tell ya! No respect
@wowalinbie ha! When I was in the service, I was busy trying to look like a civilian. Ironic
No Sir. You deserve respect and gratitude for your service also. All TRUE Servicemen and Servicewomen do...NO MATTER duty or rank.
No one wants to be a PO3 Corpsman either!
I'm an Army retiree and disabled vet. As far as businesses giving discounts, most ask to see an ID card or a VA card, something to verify status as a veteran. When I see someone wearing a uniform that doesn't seem right, I just smile and walk away.
I've seen too many businesses that don't check. I always make it a point to tell the person giving me a discount or special deal to please check my ID.
Being a disabled veteran and a senior citizen, when I ask if there is any discount I always provide my VA card and drivers license. I always pay no attention to anyone wearing part of a uniform.
I am a restaurant manager and I give discounts to vets and families. The vets get a standing discount of 1% off for every year they can prove they served with a minimum of 5% off. They get a free drink or free desert with every meal and on Veteran's day a vet gets the whole meal for free. Also if a vet brings in their family members on veteran's day up to three of them will get a free desert or free drink. Active service personnel get the same discount but extended to their spouse and children. As for ID, I'll accept anything reasonable. I have a short list of regulars who have brought in copies of their service record to get the bigger discounts for those who served more than 5 years. But if they show me a document that gives their rank or grade then I can sometimes extrapolate from that how long they served as often I can find that info on the internet. I know it's not an exact science but I'm also not an expert on the military. I just figure they deserve a little more consideration. We have this one old guy who lost both legs in battle on D-Day. He eats free period. If it's memorial day and you are a military widow you get a free meal. My mother got widows benefits from the VA so I know any widow of a vet can show me her paperwork. Basically I will take anything she got mailed to her from the VA showing she is a widow of a vet. I've probably been scammed once or twice. I get a lot of people who try. We have a little sign that says "ASK ABOUT VETERAN'S DISCOUNTS" So a lot of people will take advantage of such things. The thing is they are usually easy to spot. A real vet usually won't wear any kind of uniform to the restaurant but often they have a sort of baseball cap with something on it that commemorates the unit they were in. One guy has the name of his ship on his cap and another guy has the name of his army unit though I can't remember what they were. Occasionally a vet will wear a T-shirt with some mention of their unit on them. But actual uniforms are rare except with active service personnel and we don't get a lot of them because we are not close to any bases except Coast Guard. While I'm not an expert, I've seen enough uniforms to get a pretty good idea when a scam artist is standing in front of me. They almost always don't have a name tag. they usually don't have the insignia on straight. Most of the time they have more medals and insignia and ribbons than a North Korean field marshal. Most of the time they don't have a military haircut. Often they have beard growth. But the biggest thing is they rarely have bearing, a term I recently learned and honestly, vets tend to present themselves a certain way that civilians like myself just don't.
@@nunyabiznez6381 First of all, let me thank you for honoring my brother/sister veterans as you do. Next, you're absolutely right about real veterans having "bearing." It is instilled in us from the beginning and most of us still have it as a matter of pride in our service and in our selves. I don't go anywhere without a cover on, as melanoma ran in our family and the only caps I wear are Army caps, bought for me by family members. Some veterans may not have any documentation, especially if they only served one enlistment or are old geezers (like me) and were drafted. Typically, those of us who are retired will have at least a retired ID card. In my case, as I'm disabled, I also have a VA ID card and am a life member of the VFW. So again, thank you for taking the time to write and to honor veterans at your establishment.
@@daviddubin4654 I've accepted VFW membership documents as well as American Legion though I don't see a lot of American Legion guys any more. Did you guys merge or did the American Legion just go out of business. My Dad was a member of both. My grandmother was auxiliary as my grandfather was a vet of the Great War. I'd do more if I could but my boss would fire me.
I’ve never served in the military but I have served Colonel Sanders.
Religiously
Extra Krispy comment
Very good.
KFC should offer a range of service medals for their staff! :)
-Definitely one for having to clean toxic bathrooms beyond the call of duty.
-maintaining a calm demeanour whilst dealing with a Karen.
Lmao
The "Stolen Valor Act" makes impersonating an active duty or veteran illegal WHEN using that impersonation to gain an entitlement/ benefit they would not otherwise be entitled to. JUST wearing the uniform is NOT actionable in and of itself. But something as weasily as getting a military discount WOULD count.
My son went to “Summer Camp” with the USMC. It’s located in Paris Island, S.C. and he said that they had such a great time that he still has dreams about his DI occasionally even after eight years. The sand fleas crawling in his eyeballs while his DI encouraged him was one of his favorite activities.
Your son is a real hero.
Prevost, you son did far more for his country than the morons in this video, or myself for that matter. 🤣
Some of these self-appointed "stolen valor" police need to research the Stolen Valor Act and learn what it really means, and not what they want it to mean. I, personally, suspect the nature of some of their own service.
Yeap, their probably trying to make millions of views.
Totally agree. Stolen Valor Warriors.. come at me like that and I I will not only wanna Knock your (figuratively)teeth down your throat, but I also ask your name, Unit, and First Sergeant or First Line Supervisors name, cause he ans I are gonna have a little chat about the professionalism of his troops
Cac is an active duty card....
My DI
"Everyone wants to be a warrior....til it's time to be a warrior"
True. Freedom isn't free. But there are many that don't want to pay, but they want all the benefits that we helped secure for them. Sometimes it burns me up.
CAC - Common Access Card is for Active Duty , Reserve , National Guard & State Guard .
@UCknfoX-WIHV9ys7H0XNRjmw Thanks, I understand now why I don't have it. 87-93 vet myself, CAC didn't exist then.
I was in from 1982-1985. We had the old style ID card. Nothing special.
@@dougtheeliminator1077 ya they switched it when they implanted the military ID with a chip. .i went in 2008 and it was still considered relatively new.... Kind of like the chip on a credit card
Yes it’s common practice to make soldiers aware of AR 670-1 which covers uniform/appearance regulations. The CAC card, or Common Access Card is a new version of the military Id with a computer chip for computer access depending on your cyber clearances
The difference between you, Jameson, and these guys is that you are confident in yourself. You are not defined by your service years alone. These guys, much love and respect to them, seem to take these things very personally.
Yep. With all respect, being in the militray does not necessarily mean someone is even equipped to graduate college, so these aren't CIA agents walking around.
My hubby doesn’t like to even get gas... while in his uniform. Heaven forbid if we stop by the grocery store... he’ll stay in the car! He says no unnecessary stops or trips into public locations should be done in his “working uniform”
He doesn't want to run into his "other family" while with you
@@martinnitram3491 LOL. I know how that is...jk
My boyfriend is the same way. He doesn’t even like to use his discounts either.
He doesn’t like to draw attention to himself and I completely understand.
Not military here but my pilot uniform is strictly worn when flying or getting off work or on my way to work. I dont like drawing attention to myself or having to talk to people about it. I'll never wear it if I don't have to, im sure being military is even more of a reason to not want to wear it. Ive been around family wearing their military uniform and every other person stops to say thanks. Im sure its appreciated but id imagine it would be annoying if you just want milk. I get stopped enough in my uniform, I cant imagine if I was military as well haha. Most people wearing it around all the time have a strange obsession with needing attention.
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“Secret Squirrel stuff” Laughing myself sick! Hadn’t heard that in years! Great call on that one!
He was on the good ship lollipop.
The Bible says, when you argue with a fool over a matter, you become his equal.
@If_U_Don't_Snipe You're_A_Puss_Puss you’re missing the point. It doesn’t matter if it actually happened or not but the message is still valid, same thing with the story of little red riding hood . The message was to not trust strangers etc it doesn’t matter that it’s not a real event that happened
Amen
I would talk to you if you don’t snipe but then I would become A fool to
All of these men here are legit, I served with these guys in the Battle of Hogwarts under General Potter.
How many Medal of Honor did you win?
Thanks for your service sir .
@@HolgerDanske me, about 50.
Levey o sir
Lmao
If someone wants to dress up and play soldier that’s fine by me, that comes from living in a free country, where I draw the line is when they are conning people out of money or taking benefits meant for real soldiers.
I agree ONE MILLION percent. Wonder how the VA is corrupt?
Same here that's where I have an issue it's nice to run into others that did serve lol
Why would that bother you? Zdx I'd you serve for the benefits? If so I'm honestly surprised you reached over a 30 on the ASVAB. Who gives a fuck.
That is the only time someone is actually violating the Stolen Valor Act.
Yeah I agree. I dress in different BDUs every now and then and get together with my friends to play airsoft or paintball. Though I make it a strict rule not to wear anything in public because I don't want to cause trouble. I even contemplate whether or not I should come in my BDU pants or change at my destination, because I don't even like wearing those in public. And if anyone asks, I make sure they know Im wearing them as part of a hobby, and that Im not trying to claim benefits, or that Im a vet.
This stolen valor thing is awfully odd, from both sides of the argument. It's odd to play dress up as an adult but it's extremely weird to go round accosting people and asking for ID because of it.
You do it when you sell your time in clothes you can't wait to get out of . Business men dress up in fake suits too
You have to be careful with calling people out. Someone tried calling me out at the VA while I was an inpatient and in a hospital gear in my personal wheelchair. All because I couldn't remember the name of the hole at the top of the parachute. Oops, 20+ years later life moved on. I haven't forgotten since though. It pissed me off so bad that it is seared in my brain now. That's what I get for having Airborne tattoos.
I was a parachute rigger and I cant remember what the apex of the crash 10 was called.
Tell em to kiss your airborne ass next time. Semper fi!
mustard stain exactly, never get tats!
FYI you can get a vetren identifier on you state ID in most states by providing your DD214. I personally don't want to be showing my DD214 to strangers that contains personal info
Yea, I got berated too because I got out 21 years ago and said I was a PR4 which I was referring to as an E4. I was typing so fast that I missed that! People need to settle the f*&K down. Shit, I carry my DD214 in a pdf on my phone so I can prove it and I have Veteran at the bottom of my Drivers License. You can only get that by showing your DD214 to Secretary of State
“CAC” common access card it’s the current service member identification card
Yep, it’s also amazing asking drunk people for their “CAC” but fuck with them by making sound like cock. Do what you can to be entertained for 4 hours.
Common Access to what?
Jump in the cac... YEAH!
@@michaelluna4856 used as an ID for base access as well as a login token for computer systems
Not exactly. A contractor, civilian employee and other people with base access also get a CAC, it has thier DOD ID number on it, doesn't necessarily make them a soldier.
The Asian guy may have been in the south Vietnamese military. He seemed really confused, I wonder.
Yeah I've seen similar stuff before foreign vets like that.
@@shitboxoffroad yeah, a lot of ex south Vietnamese vets either served with or in the US military before or after the fall of Saigon. I wouldn't confront guys like that because you honestly don't know what type of vet they even are. Like are they ex US backed ROC Chinese vets.
@@MrJetFormation Being in a position to call someone out is a power trip many enjoy.
As a vet myself I can understand why some vets want to call out people walking around in full kit or explicitly claiming they are in the service while looking very dodgy. But in some cases calling people in civies out on the account that they have a non unit-specific patch or something is just overzealous.
I have seen American tourists in Russia and China walking around with the old Soviet Army fur cap or a fake version of the Chinese army comrade cap with the little red star. Imagine if each and every one of them needs to be called out and asked whether they were actually Party Members or active duty People's Liberation Army soldiers.
@@alvindurochermtl well Idk hope he isn't a vet. Bc if he was I'm sure that moment was stressful, he could barely speak English.
Yeah but being in the navy and not knowing what ship mean is kinda sus
This guy was on the TITANIC..
I was a Ranger but i got caught by an Imperial ambush while trying to sneak across the border. Woke up later in the back of a carriage accompanied by some Stormcloak prisoners and a horse thief who said he was from Rorikstead. They shot him when he tried to escape, they would have had my head too if it wasn't for that dragon.
I was there as well brother, tough times. Witnessed my best friend get his head cut off by those damn guards...
@@purpviper tough tough i cleaned up the blood after that was tough
@@johnjames291 No, there's way you cleaned that up. That entire village was burned down. Luckily we made it out, with our brethren
Perfect
@@AlejandroSantiago-kn6dg na i did i swear i went to the training camp in florida then done a whole 2 years milsim on xbox under corpral your_momsswagger part of b squadren alpha parachute failed deployment clean up task force black i got seventeen purple squares and one promotion to stagg serg we xoiod clean up isle six quicker than gandie cpild cross the desert
My commanding officer was, Captain Crunch..!
Lmao
I'm no Commanding Officer but I am Captain Crutch after being ripped completely in half in 99 been a tripod pogo stick ever since. LOL
LMAO! Good one.
I was served a bowl of captain crunch every morning 😂
I was getting yelled at for stolen valor back in highschool for being in dress uniform had inspection that day so had to wear it all day went to Starbucks with friends after school but you can clearly see the JROTC Fighting Colt Battalion patch on the shoulder 😂
Same, I wore the dress uniform after school and cashier told me I shouldn't wear that but then showed them the patch and they seemed embarresed and just walked away from the drive through window . . .
I get that too, when I wear my Civil Air Patrol uniform. Which is why unless it is Veteran's Day and I am going to an event, or doing a Flag Ceremony/Funeral where I am doing something related to a vet, I don't wear it outside of activities. If I am on the way to or from an event, I will wear it, otherwise, no bueno. If you stop for very long anywhere, you gotta change out of your uniform. I was in the Marine Corps JROTC, back in High School and had the same thing back then, with two accusing me of stolen valor, this was back in 2003, and I was at the Youth Action Center right after getting out of Rifle Team practice. So, yeah, they made assumptions, even though the JROTC has very clear markings, to let you know, it is not an active military uniform.
@Ethan Poertner - BTEC Student Yup, we did the same thing. Anytime someone said that, I just say thank you, and move on. I do the same thing as a security guard, as people mistake me for a police officer all the time. If they say thank you for my service, I say your welcome. However, if they say thank you police officer, I say your welcome, but I am a security officer. That way I both say thanks, but also correct it, so I don't get accused of "pretending" to be a police officer, as that is a felony.