Outlaw Biker Confronted By Navy Seals For Stolen Valor!

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  • @DemonsRow
    @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

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    • @louisebutler5415
      @louisebutler5415 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      #Ghostin

    • @dondouglas2215
      @dondouglas2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God bless all great people on your platform the rest expose themselves 😄

    • @KVBreezy
      @KVBreezy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      #Ghostin Doesn’t matter who they are if they are misrepresenting they will get checked. And he is very lucky those Navy Seals undergo some serious training. Before becoming Doc with the FMF and being part of the “The Hammer’s Hooligans” the “Reapers Realm” I tried to be a Seal but was not ready because at time I needed to go back and raise my GT score then I would be allowed to comeback and tryout again. We had a Seal in our HM class he was QM1/Hm1Garner and he didn’t tolerate bullshit of any sort. I would have loved to seen how he would have handled that situation with that guy being a poser? When I was assigned to the Marines they send us to some serious training and we are called Devil DOC’s. Learning to save lives is a very powerful thing when you are around those elite life takers. I just wish I wouldn’t have wrecked my Bike I’d still be military. Hooyah to QM1/HM1 Garner Ret. Navy Seal and Ooohrah to my Devil Dogs and be safe and keep the rubber side down!

    • @jeremydennard6992
      @jeremydennard6992 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuckin great channel bro

    • @geraldek4948
      @geraldek4948 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Talked to an overweight guy a neighbor on a construction site years ago who claimed he was one. At the time I automatically fell for it but now with the internet revealing them guaranteed he was phonier than a Chinese redhead

  • @BlindSpot1000
    @BlindSpot1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    The real Navy Seal in the video is a retired Navy Seal Master Chief. He's also the curator of the Navy Seal database. It has all the names of everyone who has ever made it through BUD/S and earned the title of Navy Seal. If he says you aren't a Seal then you aren't. You can take that to the bank.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Thats funny hes tellin the guy who runs the database go check him out lol

    • @GorillaCrewWarGaming
      @GorillaCrewWarGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@DemonsRow I laughed my ass off.......

    • @Vipersshorts
      @Vipersshorts ปีที่แล้ว +48

      The name Don Shipley

    • @stevejohnson2124
      @stevejohnson2124 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Senior Chief, not Master Chief.

    • @juanhuttoe4517
      @juanhuttoe4517 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@stevejohnson2124yep senior chief is the man.

  • @genewalker8837
    @genewalker8837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    I was a cook in the Navy. I was a prod cook. Never claimed to be anything else. Just a cook and sailor.
    Thanks for all you do.

    • @Bill0167
      @Bill0167 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Making sliders is important business - sir!

    • @BrunoLuizdeMello
      @BrunoLuizdeMello 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      "An army marches on its stomach" - Napoleon Bonaparte.

    • @dahomiedirty8361
      @dahomiedirty8361 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thx fa ya service OG

    • @2yoked70
      @2yoked70 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nah man you were a CS! A combat specialist!!!!

    • @robertdipaola3447
      @robertdipaola3447 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Steven segal said the same thing in the movie under siege, " I'm just a cook"-- but little did they know.....

  • @proightningsmasonstaton3279
    @proightningsmasonstaton3279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    I don’t care who you are or what club you represent, I will give respect where it’s due. I served in the Marine Corps and it makes me sick seeing people say they are or were something they ain’t. Period.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree

    • @dubzy8334
      @dubzy8334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Amen

    • @dubzy8334
      @dubzy8334 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Crazy part is some of these clowns did serve and do so with honour. For some reason they are so insecure, they disrespect themselves and their family and the service and start up with stories

    • @MONEYSHOT-vg3dh
      @MONEYSHOT-vg3dh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RRRAHH

    • @joshuabuxton7502
      @joshuabuxton7502 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How does someone who claims to be something their not, even live with themselves?? And think about the example they are setting for their own children??
      I don't know about anyone else but with me honesty and integrity are everything...
      US Army Veteran

  • @PlayboyRock71
    @PlayboyRock71 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Don Shipley is a highly decorated and respect man. Confronted by him if you are phony, is never a good thing. Then again, confronted by any of us because you're a phony, is never good... Good way to catch one hell of an ass beating of a lifetime.
    Diane is an absolute angel too. Such amazing two people Don and Diane!!!

  • @romegavadquez6310
    @romegavadquez6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    “Don’t try to be something your not.” That’s for every walk of life.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes i agree

    • @reedrk88t
      @reedrk88t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You never try and pose as any brother of mine. Bike life isn't on the level of an operator's life...so never go there.

  • @threepercenter4242
    @threepercenter4242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +327

    As an Army veteran, stolen valor is a huge disrespect to those who have served, especially those that gave their lives to preserve our freedoms! #ghostin #armystrong #3percentersareeverywhere

    • @alberthinds78
      @alberthinds78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      #Ghostin
      Damn straight.
      It is worse than wearing a Clubs patch, and rockers in my personal opinion.
      Thank each and everyone for their service.
      3% for Life.

    • @Hatchet0420
      @Hatchet0420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for you service lucifer

    • @kryptonbeyondpowerofgod7305
      @kryptonbeyondpowerofgod7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So true and with all troubles veterans go through we don't need stolen Valor

    • @threepercenter4242
      @threepercenter4242 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hatchet0420 yes sir 🇺🇸💯👍

    • @harttoddth
      @harttoddth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      III% Wisconsin brother

  • @bryantbiscoe8838
    @bryantbiscoe8838 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    As an Army Veteran (EOD Tech)..stolen Valor is a huge sign of disrespect. We go through so much to get the badge that gets pinned on us.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Much respect thats why i spoke on it

    • @jpvoodoo5522
      @jpvoodoo5522 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have liked that job. I always figured you could go into skyscraper demolition afterward. But I resented being told what to do back then. If your brain is not screwed on exactly how they need it be, you do a favor by not joining. But thank you for your service!

    • @jeffkarabinchak6329
      @jeffkarabinchak6329 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As A Marine Nco Veteran, my Army Brother is 100! If they think there so tuff and it’s easy? Sign the Conctact!

    • @eodbombtech1906
      @eodbombtech1906 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I too am an EOD vet, and a former regional president of the EOD MC. I am glad to see we (eodtechs) still represent!

  • @bigl161985
    @bigl161985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    That guy Don Shipley is a bad ass. I use to see him back in the day when I lived in Virginia Beach before I joined the Marines. That guy is a straight up stand up man, it's a shame TH-cam is attacking his channel

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He needs to blur there face

    • @bigl161985
      @bigl161985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow good Point never thought about that!! Maybe if I run into him again when I get out the field I'll tell hjm

    • @righteousdoggh3321
      @righteousdoggh3321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bigl161985 Hey Gunny! Semper Fi

    • @bigl161985
      @bigl161985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@righteousdoggh3321 oh yeah oh yeah that's my Sgt that's my Sgt lolz. We out here in the fields.

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 ปีที่แล้ว

      no doubt...never met him just really liked his channel...him and his wife are funny as hell...reminds me of me and my wife...laugh a minute

  • @unndunn1
    @unndunn1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I’ve followed Don Shipley for a few years now. He doesn’t fool around. The lengths some people go to to steal valor are pathetic. Great topic!

    • @Zephyrmec
      @Zephyrmec 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude isn’t a SEAL, not much of a scooter tramp. Don Shipley is the real deal.

    • @majorleagueinfidelsavagena5822
      @majorleagueinfidelsavagena5822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Don Shipley does not mess around at all

    • @evil_glide5083
      @evil_glide5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don Shipley son is no fucking joke.!

    • @GorillaCrewWarGaming
      @GorillaCrewWarGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's a fact, Don doesn't put up with that shjt and that's awesome. I've been following him for quite a while now.

    • @scottn7cy
      @scottn7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don Shipley is the real deal.

  • @unndunn1
    @unndunn1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Don Shipley’s son is also a Navy Seal. I think that’s what makes him and his wife more angry about all of this

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea im sure

    • @TommiChong
      @TommiChong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      As soon as he started talking about the incident I was yup..I remember this one. I mean don't people even research what they fake anymore. The truth is out there.

    • @drummerdm1016
      @drummerdm1016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Dons wife is also a 20 year veteran as well. Big respect for both of them.

    • @highplainsrider8734
      @highplainsrider8734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don Shipley is awesome and goes after fake Navy Seals on a daily basis with the full
      support of the Navy. Don Shipley is also a genuine badass!

    • @Bootlgr4
      @Bootlgr4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dj Shipley is Don's son. He was recently on the Sean Ryan show. Unbelievable episode

  • @kevinnail5992
    @kevinnail5992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a Marine veteran. Much respect for the way you presented and handled this. Love and respect. #ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much respect thank you for your service

    • @kevinnail5992
      @kevinnail5992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DemonsRow thank you sir and keep up the outstanding work

    • @mcethos8678
      @mcethos8678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Semper Fi!

  • @T-RexABMC
    @T-RexABMC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As a 26 year Vet, I'm glad he got exposed. I've met several fake punks claiming to be something they were not. Sad that so many want to steal the honor of us who signed the check that say up to and including my life. ABFFAB

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you

  • @ryanjones4917
    @ryanjones4917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    It pisses me off that Stolen Valor was ruled as being free speach, but impersonating a cop or federal agent is prosecutable. What really gets me is those who actually served but then lie about what they did. If you served at all be proud of that. What you did is probably more than most as it is.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yea a soldier is way more honarable

    • @jimiray1969.
      @jimiray1969. ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you profit from stolen valor it is a federal offense now.

    • @lifeischeesy
      @lifeischeesy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      In 2013 they made it a crime

    • @terrycarpenter1743
      @terrycarpenter1743 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All THE. WORLD IS A STAGE...everyone's an actor in this drama..We call life.. TRUTH. WILL SET YOU FREE... I. TELL PEOPLE. MY. WORD IS. BLOOD...LYING ALLWAYS. CATCHES UP...KARMA...LYING ABOUT. SERVING. MILITARY. ..F....NG. SADD. ,, LAME. N. INSECURE. B. True. 2urself. Others follow. . A liar is a thief;; A thief is a LIAR

    • @sekavuudestaselvyyteen7113
      @sekavuudestaselvyyteen7113 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Don't mind it world is full of people the only thing important is you know it yourself, I think the true ones won't even claim to be who they really are

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I remember when this happened, Don Shipley is nobody to mess with.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Def i see

    • @dondouglas2215
      @dondouglas2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are right a true patriot love it 💪🇺🇲

  • @brooklynkid357
    @brooklynkid357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video I spent 21 years in the military and believe it's totally disrespectful to claim to have served this country there's still people dying out there. Thanks for bringing up this subject be blessed bro

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you much respect

  • @davidrosenblum2178
    @davidrosenblum2178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I was career Navy and learned early on that the Seals take people misrepresenting being one of them very seriously. It takes a tremendous commitment to be a part of their community. I wonder how the perpetrator's club handled the fallout.
    Shout to the "Ghosts" and "Ghostettes!" #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wonder

    • @almVancouver
      @almVancouver 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep, I wonder myself.

    • @Pound_Shift
      @Pound_Shift 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seals are cool but boatswains mates rule

    • @davidrosenblum2178
      @davidrosenblum2178 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Almost as much as AWs,@@Pound_Shift ! 🤪

  • @proudpatriot3491
    @proudpatriot3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I was a Army infantry and I did two combat tours in Iraq. Stole Valor minimizes what my brothers and I went through over there. He doesn't have the PTSD from the things I saw and did over there and the brothers lost. #ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Man so true thank you for your service

    • @harttoddth
      @harttoddth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Proud Patriot I am currently doing an in patient treatment for PTSD and substance abuse (alcohol). Look into your VA hospital and inquire about programs. Its not easy to face the demons but just know you don't have to face them alone. Much love brother

    • @proudpatriot3491
      @proudpatriot3491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@harttoddth I hope your treatment goes well brother. VA has taken great care of me, not so much when I first went in 07 but now its stellar. If you need anything you let me know. Stay strong

    • @brettwagner1852
      @brettwagner1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Va is the way brother

    • @deangullberry5148
      @deangullberry5148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      VA has gotten better, but some hospitals are still shady. I had to stop taking the meds, I was turning into a zombie. Mary Jane isn't legal in my state, but I've found that CBD does help, and having someone to talk to. Been out 20 years, and it's the CBD that's helped the most with the nightmares (Somalia and Bosnia). Respect and love to my Brothers.

  • @harttoddth
    @harttoddth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm a veteran and stole Valor is one way to get your ass whooped period. Outlaw biker or not. You don't disrespect vets like that

    • @adphipps33
      @adphipps33 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely, I’m a NAVY VETERAN myself and we take that just as serious if any 1% caught a fake guy claiming to be a 1% with patches HE DIDNT EARN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree

    • @harttoddth
      @harttoddth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is everybody wants to be the hero. There isn't any shame in saying "yeah, I was a chemical recon guy. Yeah I was in Baghdad, did some patrol missions and we took alot of indirect fire and dodged some IED's." No, every one claims to be a sniper for high value targets. It pisses me off and thats when I lose my shit. Sose had this episode dead nuts on when he said "just be yourself and be true to yourself". Cuz eventually, you will be found out. Thanks for serving in the Navy. I was Army 18th ABN Corps

    • @richardrodriguez2120
      @richardrodriguez2120 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harttoddth I was with the 24th Inf Division 18th Airborne Corp during DS/DS.

  • @2Tall03XX
    @2Tall03XX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I keep telling people that if you gon step to vets, you better come correct. None of that fake bs.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Truth

    • @andrewthies1828
      @andrewthies1828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Uh yes.plenty are supply types etc.however,you can find the"grunts& doorkickers"easy enough.if u find the wrong type of vet and claiming stuff ya ain't it's same-same as some schmo off the street,on 2's and rocking 1 percenter patches.neither, go over good.

    • @2Tall03XX
      @2Tall03XX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andrewthies1828 yea those of us that’s “been there and done it” don’t like false claiming

    • @andrewthies1828
      @andrewthies1828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2Tall03XX Roger that bro.get some!

    • @projektxent
      @projektxent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just like sets don’t want people flying false colors, ppl in sets shouldn’t rock false valor.

  • @davidkoast1565
    @davidkoast1565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    PRENDTING to be something you are not to me is DISTIPICABLE ! I remember listening to a guy tell me he was in NAM and he was younger than me and I am too young to have been there. I have total respect for all who have served, GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

  • @DiggitySchwag
    @DiggitySchwag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Mad mad mad respect for you actually sitting down and doing this video. I know the last thing you want to do is shed negative light on your own culture but you earned even more respect from your military followers such as myself for being real and not shying away from a tough topic. Stolen valor is the equivalent of somebody buying a Thug Rider cut online and repping it. It’s the biggest form of disrespect to those of us who sacrificed part of our lives to wear that uniform. #ghostin ML&R Sose

  • @meatbagmusic4426
    @meatbagmusic4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Props for addressing the topic and not putting the guy/club out there. I appreciate that you educate/build up in a respectful way. #GHOSTIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes i dont want to put people down i wanna bring us up

    • @goldilocks913
      @goldilocks913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DemonsRow that’s the only way that will last 👍

  • @mjsmith8641
    @mjsmith8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My old martial arts instructor said he was in special forces,come to find out via his sister that he never was in the army.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol

    • @mjsmith8641
      @mjsmith8641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DemonsRow , damn good instructor though. 52blocks/Jailhouse rock

  • @andyfontana2260
    @andyfontana2260 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Easiest part about telling the truth is you don’t have to remember the story you told because it’s always there. #Ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol i love that

    • @deangullberry5148
      @deangullberry5148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The realest shit ever said on the internet.....

  • @James_P60
    @James_P60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    #Ghostin. Don S. is a veteran you don’t want to lie to, Don is the guy you don’t want looking into your military background he will bring out the 100% truth.

    • @andrewbrueggen8762
      @andrewbrueggen8762 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn’t a SEAL but even I know Don and his wife don’t mess around. He will put a person in their place

    • @anthonyrivers6347
      @anthonyrivers6347 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Senior chief is on point with exposing these jokers.

    • @Marfoir0303
      @Marfoir0303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don Shipley is the Gate Keeper of Stolen Valor & Navy SEALs

  • @CindyJoGorman-bt9ro
    @CindyJoGorman-bt9ro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As a Veteran, I appreciate the way you presented this content! My son is serving Right now in the Air Force Spec Ops. That's a mighty low life form that steals Valor from our military personnel.

  • @Art-lv2hb
    @Art-lv2hb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    As an 11 year Navy veteran, I was a SARC embedded with SEAL Teams, this unfortunately goes on all the time now, this is like someone claiming to be 81 and NOT! You have to play the game to wear the name, I ride lone wolf today, and respect all that ride whatever their affiliation, but to see someone claiming a certain veteran status they never earned, well, those are the guys ya need to take behind the barn for a come to Jesus meeting, love your shows!! Keep the shiny side up!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      much respect

  • @andrewthompson5728
    @andrewthompson5728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If this biker lied about being a SEAL, guaranteed the club needs to look at him again to see whatever else of him is false.

  • @richardlanning462
    @richardlanning462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    My dad was a special forces in the army and have navy uncle and grandfather stolen valor needs to be stopped

    • @southernspazz2262
      @southernspazz2262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My old man was in Nam. He never talked about, didnt tell anybody who he was. Just a dude. I thank your family for the service they sacrificed.

    • @richardlanning462
      @richardlanning462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@southernspazz2262 yeah my dad was in nam as it ended he wouldnt tell us anything about it either and he would hit the ground anytime he heard a car backfire

    • @dondouglas2215
      @dondouglas2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get it the one that actually catches that person is the one that should make him or her pay

    • @richardlanning462
      @richardlanning462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dondouglas2215 you are 100% correct I've called people out for it alot I would have joined myself but only living son stopped me and my dad wouldn't sign the release paperwork for it

    • @dondouglas2215
      @dondouglas2215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardlanning462 Do what you do my brother glad to hear were on the same page 🇺🇲

  • @JimDebones
    @JimDebones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I've discussed this several times. The "Stolen Valor " shit is getting ridiculous. It's another way to drive a wedge between us.

    • @JimDebones
      @JimDebones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've got my dd-214, tons of records, and been in the V.A. Systems. I still get people trying to call me a liar. Even though I can prove what I say. Because of this I refuse to discuss my career except with people that I am extremely close with and I have told my loved ones not to bury me in uniform. After what I went through in the Military and was treated by other Veterans, and the V.A. I'd rather be buried in a black suit or jeans and t-shirt.

  • @jonpietka8907
    @jonpietka8907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I am a desert storm marine corps vet , thank you for spreading the respect,

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much resoect thank you for your service

  • @robertross5201
    @robertross5201 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This makes me sad as a man and as a veteran. Why can’t people just speak truth? A college “professor” I had for several classes while studying automotive service technology once said, “Good communication prevents bad misunderstandings.” Truth is the very heart of good communication.

  • @tomrodgers6629
    @tomrodgers6629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The SEAL knew he was not military way before he checked him. Military people can spot each other from a mile away. It is the way you speak, the way you carry yourself there are so many tells only we see.

    • @keithhampton9700
      @keithhampton9700 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I did a job for a customer who claimed he was a Navy Seal.Had medals and Certification and pictures of him in uniform. A Navy recruiter went to his gym under cover. He never spent a day in the military. The recruiter totally exposed him in front of his muscle head friends. Needless to say it destroyed his ego as it should.

  • @scottc3165
    @scottc3165 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "You can never lose if you're telling the truth". That's true. And even if you get persecuted because you're telling the truth, it's a lot easier to bear.

  • @sgttuff13
    @sgttuff13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    #GHOSTIN....As a retired military member I can say that "Stolen Valor" is as serious as it gets. In many states they have laws on the books that make these claims as illegal. Like in the biker community, you've either lived the life or you haven't. Don't try to be something your not, because one day it will catch up with you, and God help you if you get caught up by the wrong person

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea im hearing it used to be a crime

    • @johnstark4723
      @johnstark4723 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2013 they made Stolen Valor a federal felony if used to get any kind of compensation. People have been nailed for getting jobs using fake DD-214's, veterans benefits and even free or low cost homes. These people will go out of their way to cheat the system. Don even busted a Nigerian trying to claim he was a seal and he scammed a woman out of over $100,000.

  • @brandon8541
    @brandon8541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Biker culture has a history of Veterans since well before WW2.

  • @bocarib
    @bocarib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Just be you, embrace your past." Powerful words from big bro.
    #ghostin

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Much love bryan

    • @bocarib
      @bocarib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much love brother Sose

  • @dyna98rider
    @dyna98rider 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    #GHOSTIN....Be who you are and not worry about trying to remember the lies. I ran into a dude that claimed to be a SEAL but it turned out he was a 'contractor' that was hired to work for a deployed SEAL Team. Be who are and if anyone asks, say exactly who you are. Why is Honesty, Loyalty and Respect so hard now days?

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes earn everything

  • @manofaction1807
    @manofaction1807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah, You can tell he's not a SEAL... He doesn't have a book deal.

  • @matrikzdaclown7496
    @matrikzdaclown7496 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Non-military here but my elders served and always taught me to never let someone change you or be fake. I flat out told my wife when we 1st met, that I am who I am, so you get what you get, and she knew right away that I was serious and can only be me.

  • @EpicCheese765
    @EpicCheese765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    #ghostin Sose always doing the research to give the people as much information as possible, acknowledging when that info isn't complete, and giving solid advice on every video. Realest channel on youtube

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you cheese

  • @comptondrew769
    @comptondrew769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Rangers, seals, greenberets.. we all have serial numbers and books that prove we are who we say we are.. just like prison you got to show your paperwork. It is an extremely small community like you Gotta know somebody and when they check you they also have certain names that are bad names in each community and ask you if you know who that person is just to see your reaction etc. there’s many ways of knowing when somebody’s full of shit

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea im sure he was embarrassed

    • @tcordova5208
      @tcordova5208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What I can't stand is war fighters that exaggerate . I was in the Marines in a real boring time. I have ran into service members that served in my time that have rambo stories.

    • @Rollercoaster555
      @Rollercoaster555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just look them in the eyes that says it all

    • @MortonT1958
      @MortonT1958 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tcordova5208That’s really sad. They served their country honorably as Marines but apparently that’s not good enough in their mind. Instead they start with the b.s. and when caught, it tarnishes their real service.
      Shipley has had cases where SWCC (Navy Special Warfare Combat Crewman), Navy EOD Techs (Explosive Ordnance Disposal), Boatswain’s Mates and, yes, Marines, all claimed to have attended BUD/S. All had honorably served in difficult jobs, but made the false claim to have attended SEAL training. When confronted by Shipley they backed off their claim, saying that they trained at Coronado or worked with the SEALS, but at the end of the day they had to admit that they weren’t SEALS.

  • @shreader327
    @shreader327 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best advise ever.. " its best for someone to hate you for something you are, than love you for something you're not."

  • @MrStaybrown
    @MrStaybrown 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm a veteran, and I always ask bikers wearing military patches , medals, and ribbons. The majority aren't even veterans and have never served in the military, but they wear what is supposed to be earned.
    It's crazy.

  • @bobgil3464
    @bobgil3464 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Don Shipley is one person you don’t mess around with. I am surprised the Outlaw biker is still alive.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He wouldve put hands on him?

    • @willhausauer7703
      @willhausauer7703 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DemonsRow I’ve never seen Shipley do anything stupid like that. He did what he came to do. Expose and humiliate the dude. Why put hands on him? Some dudes I guess just think cause he’s a navy seal he’s just gonna 187 anyone who they feel disrespected them. What I’m saying is some dudes is scared lol

  • @Wyfapres
    @Wyfapres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    First off, Huge Props to you Brother for the way you handled this video! No need to include pics or video and the Club affiliation, the Club can and will decide how to handle THEIR business. Now as for Stolen Valor, this needs to end NOW!! I have no Military background of my own, circumstances dictated I could not, but a family full of Vets and stolen valor is as serious a disrespect to a Vet as someone disrespecting your Club Brother and deserves nothing short of a ass whippin in my opinion. I have called out panhandlers on street corners asking certain questions and found plenty of fake ass stolen valor. I'm hoping those that were not aware, learned from this.
    Stolen Valor must stop now!!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it has to stop

  • @HarleyMojoMan777
    @HarleyMojoMan777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I signed up at age 18 to be a grunt in the Marines. Broke my back 20 days before deploying to Paris Island. Recovered and made another attempt but didn't pass. Took a different route in life after that and through the years met many who served in Iraq and Afghanistan along with the stories of the greatest generation who served in WW2 and those who served in Korea and Vietnam. The stories they told made me think I may have been blessed and saved from the horrors of war. In my opinion, you ain't a bad ass until you have been in conflicts on the battlefield. God Bless our military and especially those who served on the front lines. Many were thrown to the wolves so politicians and military contractors can enrich themselves. Much respect.

  • @ncstonecrew
    @ncstonecrew 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don Shipley confronted the guy on the street in front of a bar. After listening to the BS, Don and his team went to the dealership and had the guy confess he was never a Navy Seal.
    Look him up on… Former Buds 131

  • @therenegadebard3971
    @therenegadebard3971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've never been in the military. I'm not an outlaw biker. What I am is a writer who loves being on his bike, has raised a great kid, and provides for his family. I think that's enough to be proud of. If who you are isn't good enough, that's your problem. If you feel you have to pretend to be respected, then you never deserved respect to begin with.

  • @alberthinds78
    @alberthinds78 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Stollen Vallor Brother is like putting on a 1% pin on their cut, hat, extra.
    This is one of the most disrespectful 6things a person can do to a TRUE military person.
    Many of witch are 1%ers today.
    3% for LIFE.

  • @davetheriault7620
    @davetheriault7620 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Sose...
    As a Vet...things that we did are not spoken. When a punk lies we are already hep...

  • @jeffffej01
    @jeffffej01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Claiming to be a Navy Seal without being a Seal is the equivalent of wearing an HA patch when you're not in the MC.

  • @txmarine7557
    @txmarine7557 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had always thought that the rules MC's have were ridiculous until now. As a Marine, I get pissed off when someone that's not a Marine reps an EGA or falsely claims to be a Marine...just puts it into a perspective I can understand. It's all about respect for what's been earned.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes and it all started from military

  • @mschwartz5606
    @mschwartz5606 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is really nice to see you have a high respect for veteran. Makes me enjoy the channel more than I already do.
    In 2 years my oldest will be in the air force.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you yes i was raised to respect the troops thank vince mchman and hulk hogan they raised us right lol

  • @larrycoburn8787
    @larrycoburn8787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    True that ,Don Shipley knows his shit,got a list of everybody that's been in the navy seals.

  • @ckthompson7928
    @ckthompson7928 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you ever meet a "real deal seal" you wouldn't know it, until the shit hits the fan. Then you can't mistake them.

    • @charlessalmond7076
      @charlessalmond7076 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Or they write a book and go on tour...

  • @oldtimer5283
    @oldtimer5283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I really respect your stand on this problem for armed forces worldwide...you have done your community a great service 👍

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you that means alot

  • @lazywhiteboyxbox
    @lazywhiteboyxbox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your channel man 💪 honestly the best source of MC knowledge on the web 🔥, stay safe out there and keep the too’s on solid ground boss #ghostin

  • @crippleguy415
    @crippleguy415 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd be so embarrassed , and would NEVER claim to be someone I'm NOT , like a Navy Seal . I have too much Pride and RESPECT for those who REALLY did serve . 🇺🇸

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea its sad

  • @thetrailoutthere
    @thetrailoutthere 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MC's have a history/lineage of military. After WW2 military members came back from combat and had trouble finding a place to fit in with a purpose so they crested MC's (allegedly). If true, makes sense why as different as MC's are from Military they are also similar in a lot of ways such as customs and courtesies, "rank structure ", lifestyle, uniform/patch regulations....the list goes on. Every medal and ribbon is earned in the military just like earning a full patch and your place in an MC. Great content!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree thank u

  • @james3282
    @james3282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    #GHOSTIN thanks to all who have and are serving from Ontario, Canada 🇨🇦🙏

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes #Ghostin much love

  • @isaiasatitegustaelwinnie666
    @isaiasatitegustaelwinnie666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never been in the military but only an older cousin of mine is in the army. I see it as disrespect when individuals do shit like that. I live 7 minutes away from the Camp Pendleton Fallbrook U.S Naval Weapons Station. With a town full of men and women in the military there's no way someone will get away for stolen valor.

  • @13fsteven
    @13fsteven 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    False claiming navy seal is looked at the same as false claiming a 1% er

  • @geneporreca3848
    @geneporreca3848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Navy Seal in the video is a Former Master Chief in the SEALS. And he got called about this guy. He does it to anyone who is stealing valor

  • @sergeant1hp
    @sergeant1hp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I liked the way you handled that. I don’t blame you for decision you made. As always I enjoy watching your videos.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you mojo

    • @brianheffernan9053
      @brianheffernan9053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doxxing is never cool.
      Calling him out is 1 thing If he did get the job from saying he was in the military but wasn't then that's lying on an application. When you sign at the bottom. Do you attest that everything above is truthful, and if not maybe terminated if otherwise proven... Some verbiage along those lines.

  • @trevormann8441
    @trevormann8441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    #Gho⚡tin..Brother I have been around the MC world since I was born..That being said the " Bikers" that I have had the pleasure of knowing have always lived in the Don't be something your not world.. Not only did this guy disgrace the men and women that serve he is disgracing his brothers and the MC world ...huge L&R to you and the men and ladies whom serve their country!!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree #Ghostin much love

  • @jnick2698
    @jnick2698 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This just popped up in my feed. Its crazy how you've grown this page! Props and respect. That being said, I never understood why people do this? I served, USMC 1171 Water tech, and was just proud to have. Pretty bland gig as many are. I've listened to many tell tales of events that never happened. You can almost always tell they're bullshitting when they can't remember details!
    Keep doing you sittin on 2s!!!
    Semper Fi

  • @TheBigjake04
    @TheBigjake04 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for doing this video. Some vets out here appreciate it.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      much respect

  • @brianmcintee7303
    @brianmcintee7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hey sose you gotta check out Don shiply former buds 131 is his channel

  • @ramonburgos6351
    @ramonburgos6351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question: what does an MC do if a member if found to be faking military service?

    • @TommiChong
      @TommiChong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Any legit club better dole out some "act right". I've heard of a few dudes that were out bad and know of a few prospect/probates that got booted when thier background didn't jive.

    • @Mrdrivereight
      @Mrdrivereight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most MC's... Real MC's I should say, hate liars regardless of what they're lying about.

  • @user-if7xr3sr3j
    @user-if7xr3sr3j 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When I served the worst thing we had to deal with was a PX Ranger, for those who don't know it's a soldier serving wearing awards and tabs not earned.

  • @dylanvisitacion8618
    @dylanvisitacion8618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have a lot of military family, my Son has been a Marine for about six years now, my Brother was a Marine (RIP Steve.) Uncle's, Aunt's, Grandparents, served in every branch before Space Force. Salute to the US Armed Forces and all who serve. God Bless.

  • @five_cogs369
    @five_cogs369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At the end of the day, you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror and know that who you see looking back at you isn’t full of shit. Be true to who you are and what you believe. You might not have the cool stories or have done this and that, but you’re REAL! #GHO⚡️TIN

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the truth

  • @johnblake2182
    @johnblake2182 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As an Army veteran (Combat Medic), I don't care if he's an Outlaw BC. He is disrespecting us by stating what he is not. Especially a veteran.

  • @kennethcalimpong7919
    @kennethcalimpong7919 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    #GHOSTIN appreciate all your knowledge you share for the TH-cam motorcycle community 💪🏼🤘🏽, Aloha, Bro🤙🏽

  • @vangoodwin7335
    @vangoodwin7335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always good when Stolen Valor is defended! As for the employer, if he was hired as a veteran, employers give we veterans that benefit when being considered for a job. As a disabled Veteran, my employer understood my physical limitations but learned I do not take advantage of them. My military training aids in my day to day ability to over come.
    As for the club or organization, I personally would out him badly. Honor and Honesty go hand in hand. If I thought some one was a bad MFer, I'd rely on them to have my back. This guy may not be there for me because he is full of shit. As for race, I don't care! I'm color blind!!
    I enjoy your programs, you are a man of honor. Your club/ organization has much faith in you to not step on your dick. Or trample the principles of your unity of purpose.
    Keep up the good word!
    Hoka Hey

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Much respect always

    • @Rollercoaster555
      @Rollercoaster555 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      COPY the color blind

  • @bigjon9508
    @bigjon9508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    #Ghostin
    As much of MC life is modeled around military life, it's surprising to see a situation like this happen. Very surprising to see someone get a tattoo of military service they never did. Be what you are. Admire what you like.

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes i agree

  • @Vanfran2
    @Vanfran2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Seal community is tight, even the old seals know those new ones coming in

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats crazy people trying to portray something there not

    • @Vanfran2
      @Vanfran2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DemonsRow always been this way. Wannabes. They have no real life and stollen valor makes them feel important

  • @rayhsieh8761
    @rayhsieh8761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Check it out… Check it out…😂

  • @foghornleghorn262
    @foghornleghorn262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great shirt Sose. Do 3 percenters get along with 1 percenter or does it all depend upon the MC?

    • @texasviking3560
      @texasviking3560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes we get along fine with 1% as long as everyone is respectful

    • @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085
      @shadowsandspirtswithsantos6085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He has a video on it...1%ers are men first... respect gets respect

  • @kennethmelnychuk9737
    @kennethmelnychuk9737 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stolen valour is the same as wearing a MC patch when you’re not a member.

  • @elijahwilson1422
    @elijahwilson1422 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He just made a bunch of enemies among veterans, bikers and also everyday civilians and my father was in the US Army and then after he left he joined the Navy and was on the USS Guam. Respect is important and that guy who stole Valor deserves none.

  • @VictorGomez-nj8fs
    @VictorGomez-nj8fs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First question what is his MOS and what rank. And we take it from there. Yes sir

    • @mose717
      @mose717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For people in the Navy the question is what was your rate. The answer contains both job specialty and rank. Different word for the same thing.

    • @brettwagner1852
      @brettwagner1852 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bet he went to basic in Virginia Beach

  • @fortis5991
    @fortis5991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don’t care who you are if you say you’re in the Military and you’re not we’re gonna find out and handle it our way in the tree line Semper Fi

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👊👊👊👊

  • @jasonkenney722
    @jasonkenney722 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "The nail that sticks out gets hammered." Japanese proverb

  • @torres6490
    @torres6490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo, I'm a vet, served in the Marines and while it's annoying to see stolen Valor. Calling someone out for it and making them loose their job over it is the same as people shaming someone for kneeling during the anthem. We talk all this pro American shit like "freedom" and "Rights" and "Amendments". Well this is part of it. I'm new to the MC world and culture and been watching you videos to better understand, and from what I get from it is, you wanna be part of an MC you embrace all aspects of it, and if someone can't do that then they ain't built for it. So the same should be said about vets and freedom. Wanna be all hard-core for rights and freedoms, well part of that is accepting that people will do dumb ass shit. We ain't gangbanging. So there is no need for that G checking shit. Much respect to you for what you do and also for not putting up that video, and exposing homeboy. Real nigga shit!!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea i agree 100% with what you said i hate people that want to put other people down

    • @willl7780
      @willl7780 ปีที่แล้ว

      ya but checking that guy is also a learning experience for him if he took it the right way...like standing up to a bully thats riding you in school...when you smash him he will hopefully learn that he cant just go messing with people without consequences and he will learn...we have all had to learn the hard way...if this guy learned and understands he does not need to claim something to get respect...i could agree not showing up at his job but the guy invited them too...no disrespect intended

  • @twisted-tenn1992
    @twisted-tenn1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    #GHOSTIN as Always.

  • @thadood4373
    @thadood4373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A dude who lied about being a seal would DEFINITELY lie about being a 1%’er

  • @martintownley5803
    @martintownley5803 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Military veterans are the essence of the origins of MC’s. Doesn’t matter what branch of the military you are from, you don’t have to be ex special forces, even regular veterans have been through some shit if they served long enough. It doesn’t matter if you are pretending to be military or you are a 1%er you don’t disrespect what veterans have done

  • @Totes_ma_Goat
    @Totes_ma_Goat หลายเดือนก่อน

    My uncle was a Green Beret. Growing up around him, you would never know he was special forces.
    What i learned from him is special forces dont have guys in them who think they're Rambo. They are very team oriented, and it would be rare to meet or see one chasing clout. I mean, they're quite professionals who, at a moments notice, put everything on the line.

  • @Greatricardo5244
    @Greatricardo5244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This just goes back to " you can only wear it if you have earned it " and if you haven't earned it then you are showing disrespect to all those who have served .

  • @RexHill-yn6os
    @RexHill-yn6os 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went into the Army in 1976/84. I had 2 MOS'S.. infantry/chemical.i was never in any world conflict,never fired my weapon to kill a human..but i am very proud to have served. I was a SGT when i got out,and love thw United States Military.🇺🇲🇺🇲💪👍

  • @RakkasanForever
    @RakkasanForever ปีที่แล้ว

    The dude questioning him is a certified seal and has the dod records of all seals who attended and graduated buds. He has investigated and called out thousands of stolen valor seals.

  • @danielsoucy6688
    @danielsoucy6688 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my book, fakes are like barking dogs! I just don't trust them! They are the kind that will run away and leave you dry when you need backup! Sose I like your style of thinking! Your a man!

    • @DemonsRow
      @DemonsRow  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      much respect

  • @BigAlsautoupholstery
    @BigAlsautoupholstery 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Retired Navy not a seal and would never claim to be one. I respect them too much.

  • @bobtocarciuc104
    @bobtocarciuc104 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for showcasing this. There are plenty of Veterans who perpetrate Stolen Valor too.
    No one is immune from character flaws. But upstanding individuals will always keep their integrity, humility and moral standing. There is never a reason to blow smoke about who you are, what you've done.

  • @sJ-bb8lr
    @sJ-bb8lr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For a veteran thats the ultimate disrespect....

  • @MrDwhite4444
    @MrDwhite4444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don't want Don Shipley asking you anything, especially when he's infront of you with his crew

  • @theengineer704
    @theengineer704 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I believe they can look up your Bud Class; plus, that group is aware of who's who once a person is in it.