I forgot to mention one very important point! The Micro Monitor Pros are 50 watts each (100 watts total) where the originals are 50 watts for the pair. This means the Pros get very (very) loud, with minimal distortion. Loud Micro Monitor - Pro amzn.to/4ewFq46 iLoud Micro Monitor - Original amzn.to/3TDwjqm Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus amzn.to/3XsPl3u Kanto ORA amzn.to/47y5s4B ▬▬▬▬ Other excellent (bigger) options ▬▬▬▬ Edifer MR4 amzn.to/3XPVgkC PreSonus Eris 3.5 amzn.to/3XUUlj7 JBL 305p MkII amzn.to/4gB7Rja Kali Audio LP-UNF amzn.to/3ZvoRBj ADAM Audio T5V amzn.to/3Zx3XSc
(For reference in case others are wondering: if all else were unchanged, doubling wattage would mean 30% louder due to the logarithmic nature of perceived volume)
I am listening to you on my 3yr. old Vanatoo T-0,s. I love these little guys. My home studio Focale SM-9 mixes, translate amazingly well on them. Nice presentation Jasper Tech.
Just found your channel weirdly while was looking for a Kali LP-6 V2 review despite not having any content for it but stayed around as I kinda dig this type of review format which is simple, informative and straightforward 👍🏼 You deserve more subs All the best.
Great comparison, mate! You've got a new subscriber. I've been a huge fan of the original Micro Monitors since they were released. They've been perfect for my MB Air and iPad Pro setups over the years. As you said, the MMs are perfect for travel. I just toss them in my backpack and go. Best of luck with your channel!
They look cool, only listened to one of the models, but really like the balance between the frequencies. it's rare that someone can so equalize, so that the bass is not lagging and the highs do not drill
Commenting to help the algo. I've got a pair of the vantoo and love them. The wide range of inputs is probably the most valuable thing for me. It's definitely my first pair of good speakers and hopefully I'll get some T1's someday
Recently purchased original iloud micro monitors as a second -More discreet - pair to my 8 inch monitors. So far, so good. You can do 85% of tracking and leveling on them, protecting your hearing and having less complains from the neighbours. For a future upgrade, i would probably consider the 3 way mtm's
I have Dirac, Sonarworks and know what a room can do.....(and how impulse and eq correction does magic) that being said the Iloud are not really affected by the room the are ment to be used in close range (closer than nearfield). They work great and you don't need to push them far to be loud although you need to keep them in close range. I would use correction (on the pro's if I would upgrade) learn the sound and be fine. The old Ilouid micro had bluetooth as well which can be nice for phone kinda suprised the pro's do not feature bluetooth anymore...
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
I have the original micro monitors. best dollars i spent for my homestudio back when i was geting started. I also got the sonarworks room sound calibration so i guess i was ahead of my time :D question: the originals had bass port chuffing at moderate to loud levels, which was very annoying. with the bigger size and portholes, and powzer as well, can you comment on whether they have the same problem or it has been resolved? i'm considering a second pair for an alternate mix station. thanks!
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
Nice little video but I still have no idea how they are sonically different listening to your review🙂. Instead of saying made by 'craftmen and 'artisan approach , maybe you can compare them in terms of Hi , Mid, Bass and stereo image. If you can that would be great...
This is helpful feedback! It’s a hard line to walk since so much can be subjective. I agree though, I can do better here. Will try to cover more of the sound characteristics in my upcoming videos.
@@Jasper-Tech it would never be 100% accurate. Same goes for listening in a different environment, like a shop. That said, a ‘relative’ A-B-C-D comparison on the same piece of audio could be great advantage in addition to your even so great informative comparison. Thanks!
I know I know.. I wanted to include them, but sadly was not able to get them and test them before recording this. I’ll be including them in a future video! Thanks for helping to keep me honest and accurate. 🙏
just found out about the new Micro Monitors thanks to this video. Using the original Micro Monitors right now, I'll say that the bluetooth won't be missed by me, I found it to be too noisy. Nice upgrades all around, balanced XLR-in + independent power = cleaner, louder audio, but as you said, USB audio would have been really sweet. still hard to beat the Original Micro Monitors on price, and I really enjoy the smaller size, but the new Micro Pro is a long needed update.
The Eve Audio SC203 is missing in this lineup …same size like the smaller ones but with passive radiator to get lower in bass and air motion transformer for better details in the highs
@@Jasper-Tech Yeah I really like them but the downsides is that the SC203 are not cheap and the design is okeyish but not great. I currently use them at my work place. Same size and similar performance are also the better looking Genelec G Two RAW with a 4" woover (But even more expensice, only RCA connection and you need a DAC). They are currently part of my Homecinema setup and I think I will get another pair for my desk setup ...someday 😅. Anyway, great video ...I loved your comparrison and the passion you put into it 🙂
Thanks for the comment. The reason why Bluetooth is not here is that these are two separated independent speakers, so you can’t have a single Bluetooth device listed on an host.
lovely but there is a YAMAHA little speaker as well, am not saying you should buy them all just to compare for us to see, but at least they are very popular and first time yamaha makers of legendary ns 10 doing small studio speakers. THANKS
is it possible to compare the mtm mk2 vs micro pro, with and without dsp? would also love to know how the mtm mk2 compares to similar driver size/form factor monitors (like the a3x, SC203, Eris3.5, MR4, kali etc) paired with the arc studio dsp box - i feel like these cheaper monitors paired with that box comes to similar prices to the mtm mk2, wondering that may be the best value for performance
I am currently using the SC203 and they are really good ...only bigger speaker can beat them and maybe the G Two / 8020 but they also have less functionality ...also looking forward to such a comparrison (I think it doesn't exist yet)
Totally agree! They removed the BT since it’s hard to make BT work properly given they are two independent speakers. I would have loved to see them solve this tho.
Love it - which ones will you get?! And if you could use my affiliate link to make the purchase I’d be forever grateful. I paid for all these speakers myself and hoping to recoup some costs 😅
Do the Kanto Oras need to be further from a wall because they're rear ported? I would want to use them on my desk but I'm in the corner of an untreated room. Thanks!
Kanto suggests a minimum of 8” from the wall. I sometimes have less and don’t have much an issue with the rear ports, but it’s really hard to say if you’ll the same experience.
Agreed! I wanted to include them, but was not able to get them in time and do the necessary testing, so here we are. I’ll be including them in an upcoming video!
very good choice ( the only one i ee missing is the Kali Audio LP-UNF), as they all have dsp, does any of these have fletcher munson loudness compensation ? will you do a video on how to complement these small monitor with a subwoofer (choose size, placement, crossover ...) ?
Thanks for the comment! I will be including them in an upcoming video. I don’t believe any of them do have FM loudness compensation. I’ll be doing another video on a broader set of studio monitors soonish! Stay tuned!
wow now seeing them next to each other i realise that the iloud pro looks like its more than 50% maybe even 100% more enclosure volume and a bigger woofer. How is the reflex noise on the Pro version? The original ilouds did produce a lot of port noise with loud bass heavy music. I like the Vanatoo approach the most. Passive radiator is the way to go
@@Jasper-Tech ok so as expected. In the mk1 I always used the low shelf and reduced the low end. Sometimes When I was on the Go I even threw a pro q3 on the master output and highpassed them at 50ish Hz. This Made them much more pleasant. However as I Said passive Radiator for the win.
Pro tip : don't put something brighter than your subject on your shot, its not aesthetic and it can distract :) (also it will clip and it may trigger you if you do editing) though It's not very noticeable but just to help you
Jasper, honestly I didn't sub at first because I thought your content might be a little too niche for my daily consumption, but weeks later and I still find myself watching every new video. Keep up the great work, you've got my sub and cant wait to see this thing grow.
@@Jasper-Tech Not only my experience but countless online. Bass woofers will cut out on one side on the micros, and countless issues with the mtms Like the dsp crapping out and the room correction test tone cutting out early on one and giving you an different correction curve on both speakers. If your product is out of warranty they just won’t help you. Won’t sell you spare parts or give schematics. They straight up don’t have an actual tech support division. It’s all just a crappy form customer service asking if you’ve turned it on and off again. There are an extreme amount of cases that pop up and disappear on their forums. And many just end up as garbage. Super unfortunate because of how amazing the speakers are when they work. But absolutely pathetic when you have 500$ 2” monitors and they only last 3.5 years. And then 1k for a pair of mtms that are garbage after 4. Don’t even look up the problems with their other hardware lol it’s crazy the level of marketing they have that all these issues are very unknown.
I forgot to mention one very important point! The Micro Monitor Pros are 50 watts each (100 watts total) where the originals are 50 watts for the pair. This means the Pros get very (very) loud, with minimal distortion.
Loud Micro Monitor - Pro
amzn.to/4ewFq46
iLoud Micro Monitor - Original
amzn.to/3TDwjqm
Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus
amzn.to/3XsPl3u
Kanto ORA
amzn.to/47y5s4B
▬▬▬▬ Other excellent (bigger) options ▬▬▬▬
Edifer MR4
amzn.to/3XPVgkC
PreSonus Eris 3.5
amzn.to/3XUUlj7
JBL 305p MkII
amzn.to/4gB7Rja
Kali Audio LP-UNF
amzn.to/3ZvoRBj
ADAM Audio T5V
amzn.to/3Zx3XSc
(For reference in case others are wondering: if all else were unchanged, doubling wattage would mean 30% louder due to the logarithmic nature of perceived volume)
Thanks I was looking for a side by side comparison of the 2 micro monitor sizes. The pros are actually quite bigger.
Agreed - was I surprised how much larger the Micro Pro's are. They're still small, but definitely gained some size.
@Jasper-Tech how are the krk go aux 3 series compared to the i loud micro for home use ( not professional setup)
I am listening to you on my 3yr. old Vanatoo T-0,s. I love these little guys. My home studio Focale SM-9 mixes, translate amazingly well on them. Nice presentation Jasper Tech.
Finally - someone who mentions the price right up front!
You earned my sub for that. I’m willing to see how you and your channel develops. 👍🏻😊
@@tommyapocalypse6096 thank you! Any tech you’d like to see me review in the future?
Wish u would've covered the Neumann KH80s and Genelecs 8010s 😭
Right?
Just found your channel weirdly while was looking for a Kali LP-6 V2 review despite not having any content for it but stayed around as I kinda dig this type of review format which is simple, informative and straightforward 👍🏼
You deserve more subs
All the best.
Thank you for the kind words of support 🙏
Great comparison, mate! You've got a new subscriber. I've been a huge fan of the original Micro Monitors since they were released. They've been perfect for my MB Air and iPad Pro setups over the years. As you said, the MMs are perfect for travel. I just toss them in my backpack and go. Best of luck with your channel!
Wow - very generous of you. Thank you for your support 🙏
@@Jasper-Tech 🤜🤛
They look cool, only listened to one of the models, but really like the balance between the frequencies. it's rare that someone can so equalize, so that the bass is not lagging and the highs do not drill
Waiting for a Kanto ORA4 vs. Kali LP-UNF shootout, man
You’re reading my mind ;)
Nice video, I like how iLoud dared to make a step-up with their pro's.
Commenting to help the algo. I've got a pair of the vantoo and love them. The wide range of inputs is probably the most valuable thing for me. It's definitely my first pair of good speakers and hopefully I'll get some T1's someday
@@4Leaf36 agreed - love how versatile the input options on the T0 are. Really wish iLoud had put more input options on the Micro Monitor Pros.
Recently purchased original iloud micro monitors as a second -More discreet - pair to my 8 inch monitors. So far, so good. You can do 85% of tracking and leveling on them, protecting your hearing and having less complains from the neighbours. For a future upgrade, i would probably consider the 3 way mtm's
This is good work
Still got my Genelec 8010A can't even tell when i bought them but i would like to ask how they compare to todays speaker ???
I have Dirac, Sonarworks and know what a room can do.....(and how impulse and eq correction does magic) that being said the Iloud are not really affected by the room the are ment to be used in close range (closer than nearfield). They work great and you don't need to push them far to be loud although you need to keep them in close range. I would use correction (on the pro's if I would upgrade) learn the sound and be fine. The old Ilouid micro had bluetooth as well which can be nice for phone kinda suprised the pro's do not feature bluetooth anymore...
Loving the small monitors. Thanks for the video.
I am still rocking with my KLIPSCH PRO MEDIA V2.1
Check out the Kali LP-UNF
I will be including them in an upcoming video!
Wait, the original ilouds had 4 amps too, no?
Where did I read that over and over again?
when the original model is turned up, the bass port vibrates and makes noise. Has that bug been fixed on the Pro model?
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
Great reviews. Keep it up! appreciate the no bs approach
Thank you 🙏
I have the original micro monitors. best dollars i spent for my homestudio back when i was geting started. I also got the sonarworks room sound calibration so i guess i was ahead of my time :D
question: the originals had bass port chuffing at moderate to loud levels, which was very annoying. with the bigger size and portholes, and powzer as well, can you comment on whether they have the same problem or it has been resolved? i'm considering a second pair for an alternate mix station.
thanks!
It’s improved here. But still being a very small speaker with lots of LF extension, the bass reflex can be a bit noisy at high levels. This however will not create any issue or limitation when working on audio.
i got the original iLoud, pretty good and fun mini monitors, i was thinking on check the KRK 3s and 4s
wow, not 1 sound sample.great dude!
Thank you for the review.
Waiting for Yamaha HS3 & HS4 review
I will definitely add those Yamaha’s to my list 👍
Nice little video but I still have no idea how they are sonically different listening to your review🙂. Instead of saying made by 'craftmen and 'artisan approach , maybe you can compare them in terms of Hi , Mid, Bass and stereo image. If you can that would be great...
This is helpful feedback! It’s a hard line to walk since so much can be subjective. I agree though, I can do better here. Will try to cover more of the sound characteristics in my upcoming videos.
@@Jasper-Tech it would never be 100% accurate. Same goes for listening in a different environment, like a shop. That said, a ‘relative’ A-B-C-D comparison on the same piece of audio could be great advantage in addition to your even so great informative comparison. Thanks!
Not sure you can have a conversation about the 'best' such monitor without including the Genelec 8010A...
I know I know.. I wanted to include them, but sadly was not able to get them and test them before recording this. I’ll be including them in a future video! Thanks for helping to keep me honest and accurate. 🙏
just found out about the new Micro Monitors thanks to this video. Using the original Micro Monitors right now, I'll say that the bluetooth won't be missed by me, I found it to be too noisy. Nice upgrades all around, balanced XLR-in + independent power = cleaner, louder audio, but as you said, USB audio would have been really sweet. still hard to beat the Original Micro Monitors on price, and I really enjoy the smaller size, but the new Micro Pro is a long needed update.
Can't wait for you to get your hands on a pair of the new Kanto Ora 4's when they are released so I can decide between the Kantos.
Agreed! Very excited to test them!
The Eve Audio SC203 is missing in this lineup …same size like the smaller ones but with passive radiator to get lower in bass and air motion transformer for better details in the highs
I did not know about this speaker! Thanks for bringing it to my attention 🙏
@@Jasper-Tech Yeah I really like them but the downsides is that the SC203 are not cheap and the design is okeyish but not great. I currently use them at my work place.
Same size and similar performance are also the better looking Genelec G Two RAW with a 4" woover (But even more expensice, only RCA connection and you need a DAC). They are currently part of my Homecinema setup and I think I will get another pair for my desk setup ...someday 😅.
Anyway, great video ...I loved your comparrison and the passion you put into it 🙂
If price isn't the problem - get the Neumanns KH80 or Genelecs 8010, for budget constrained - Kali LP UNF
Thanks for this comment! I’m going to be making a new video in the next few months, and I’ll be sure to include / mention these options 👍👍
You're not trash😂❤
kali LP-UNF?
I use and love the original iLoud.
It’s a shame the new “Pro” iLoud doesn’t have Bluetooth.
Still, I’m tempted by the “Pro” version.
Agreed - was a bummer to see the Bluetooth taken out.
Thanks for the comment. The reason why Bluetooth is not here is that these are two separated independent speakers, so you can’t have a single Bluetooth device listed on an host.
@@ikmultimedia thanks for clarifying the “why” to that move.
lovely but there is a YAMAHA little speaker as well, am not saying you should buy them all just to compare for us to see, but at least they are very popular and first time yamaha makers of legendary ns 10 doing small studio speakers.
THANKS
is it possible to compare the mtm mk2 vs micro pro, with and without dsp? would also love to know how the mtm mk2 compares to similar driver size/form factor monitors (like the a3x, SC203, Eris3.5, MR4, kali etc) paired with the arc studio dsp box - i feel like these cheaper monitors paired with that box comes to similar prices to the mtm mk2, wondering that may be the best value for performance
I’m working on a new video that has included more options/form factors. Will do my best to cover all this - thanks for the comment!
I am currently using the SC203 and they are really good ...only bigger speaker can beat them and maybe the G Two / 8020 but they also have less functionality
...also looking forward to such a comparrison (I think it doesn't exist yet)
Dude now I want the Oras in white... hahahaha
Great video!
the only downside to the new micros is the removal of the BT feature. BT is what made it an easy recommend for the avg consumer.
Totally agree! They removed the BT since it’s hard to make BT work properly given they are two independent speakers. I would have loved to see them solve this tho.
Perfect timing - thanks! I’m putting together a new home studio and a pair of monitors will be my next purchase.
Love it - which ones will you get?! And if you could use my affiliate link to make the purchase I’d be forever grateful. I paid for all these speakers myself and hoping to recoup some costs 😅
Do the Kanto Oras need to be further from a wall because they're rear ported? I would want to use them on my desk but I'm in the corner of an untreated room. Thanks!
Kanto suggests a minimum of 8” from the wall. I sometimes have less and don’t have much an issue with the rear ports, but it’s really hard to say if you’ll the same experience.
totem kin monitor???
Thanks
Genelec 8010s are missing from this comparison.
Agreed! I wanted to include them, but was not able to get them in time and do the necessary testing, so here we are. I’ll be including them in an upcoming video!
@@Jasper-Tech Great to hear ...but I would get the 8020 or G Two (Consumer line) ...still super compact but mach better base because of bigger woover
AFAIK only the new iLouds Pro have unbalanced XLRs. The rest are just fancy and expensive computer speakers.
The Pros are the only ones with a balanced XLR input - iLoud really geared them towards professionals.
@@Jasper-Tech Yeah, typo on my part. balanced. :-).
Going to look the video but Im sure IK multimedia gonna be the best
It is! These things are impressive (and loud!)
Where are the Kali LP-UNF?... Perhaps if you included the best value in their class, you might get more subscribers...
Thanks for the suggestion! I’m going to work on a new video that includes a wider range. Stay tuned!
Bit harsh. 🤔
very good choice ( the only one i ee missing is the Kali Audio LP-UNF), as they all have dsp, does any of these have fletcher munson loudness compensation ? will you do a video on how to complement these small monitor with a subwoofer (choose size, placement, crossover ...) ?
Thanks for the comment! I will be including them in an upcoming video. I don’t believe any of them do have FM loudness compensation.
I’ll be doing another video on a broader set of studio monitors soonish! Stay tuned!
How does it compare with the MTM MKII ??
I’m trying to get my hands on the MTM MKii to do a comparison. Stay tuned!
wow now seeing them next to each other i realise that the iloud pro looks like its more than 50% maybe even 100% more enclosure volume and a bigger woofer.
How is the reflex noise on the Pro version? The original ilouds did produce a lot of port noise with loud bass heavy music.
I like the Vanatoo approach the most. Passive radiator is the way to go
It is better, but not totally gone at high volume levels.
@@Jasper-Tech ok so as expected.
In the mk1 I always used the low shelf and reduced the low end. Sometimes When I was on the Go I even threw a pro q3 on the master output and highpassed them at 50ish Hz. This Made them much more pleasant.
However as I Said passive Radiator for the win.
Pro tip : don't put something brighter than your subject on your shot, its not aesthetic and it can distract :) (also it will clip and it may trigger you if you do editing) though It's not very noticeable but just to help you
Thanks for the tip - I’m very much still learning. Just to make sure I’m understanding; are you referring to the lamp in the background?
@@Jasper-Tech yep
Liked and subscribed.
Thank you for your support!
Mastering? reconsider.
WhERe aRe gENeLeC 8010?
lol. I wanted to include them, but just wasn’t able to get my hands on them in the needed time. Will be featuring them in an upcoming video!
Jasper, honestly I didn't sub at first because I thought your content might be a little too niche for my daily consumption, but weeks later and I still find myself watching every new video. Keep up the great work, you've got my sub and cant wait to see this thing grow.
No
Beware of the louds the company is really garbage: they sound good but will end up as paperweights
Oh no! I have not heard this before. Can you tell me more about your experience?
@@Jasper-Tech Not only my experience but countless online. Bass woofers will cut out on one side on the micros, and countless issues with the mtms Like the dsp crapping out and the room correction test tone cutting out early on one and giving you an different correction curve on both speakers.
If your product is out of warranty they just won’t help you. Won’t sell you spare parts or give schematics. They straight up don’t have an actual tech support division. It’s all just a crappy form customer service asking if you’ve turned it on and off again. There are an extreme amount of cases that pop up and disappear on their forums. And many just end up as garbage.
Super unfortunate because of how amazing the speakers are when they work. But absolutely pathetic when you have 500$ 2” monitors and they only last 3.5 years. And then 1k for a pair of mtms that are garbage after 4.
Don’t even look up the problems with their other hardware lol it’s crazy the level of marketing they have that all these issues are very unknown.
Mackie cr2x cubes …
would the kanto ora compare to something like the kef q|150?
The ORA are much quieter than the KEFs - really geared towards nearfield listening.
@@Jasper-Tech thank you for the reply man have a good day!
Great review, thanks for sharing it.
Thank you! 🙏