Pro Microphone Secrets. Best mics for your money!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
- #Shure #Sennheiser
Full disclosure of what in in my pro microphone kit for live sound and live event recordings.
Theory sections on mic polar patterns and response, proximity effects, frequency response and interaction with live PA systems.We discuss cardioid, super cardioid, hyper cardioid and mono directional mics. We loom at the best and most cost effective mics independent of brand.
Links to the Non Obvious Things
Ovid C100 from Thomann
www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_o...
T-Bone SC140 from Thomann
www.thomann.de/gb/the_tbone_s...
Superlux CM-8HK .. various link clues at time of writing
www.muziker.co.uk/superlux-cm...
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1726415742...
0:00 - Intro
1:03 - Sections
2:19 - Sect 1 Dynamic vs Condenser Mics
2:48 - Moving Coil Element
4:02 - Condenser Capacitor Element
5:26 - Condenser In-Mic pre-amp
5:44 - Phantom Power
6:23 - AKG C414 Studio Condenser
7:09 - Condenser vs Dynamic Listening Test
8:40 - Shure Beta 57A Frequency Reponse
9:39 - AKG C414 Frequency Response
10:46 - Line Checking Condenser Mics
11:34 - Condensers for Orchestra
13:07 - Neumann KMS105 Vocal Condenser
13:15 - The Problem with Vocal Condensers
14:30 - Sect 2 Polar Response and Pickup Patterns
14:49 - AKG C414 Polar Response Demo
16:00 - Typical Cardioid Response
16:39 - Shure Beta 58A pickup patten demo
16:56 - On stage Signal to Noise Ratio
17:37 - Shure SM58 Cardioid vs Beta 58A Super Cardioid
18:25 - Hyper/Super Cardioid Rear Lobe Pickup
18:52 - Correct Stage Monitor Placement with Super Cardioids
19:34 - Stage Monitors and Noise Masking
20:40 - Sect 3 Proximity Effect
21:01 - Where is the Diaphragm?
21:21 - Always Compress
21:47 - Level Drop with Distance Demo
22:28 - Good Proximity and Stage Signal to Noise Demo
23:50 - Mic Proximity and Tonality
26:09 - Vocal Power Techniques
27:15 - Bring you Vocalist to the Mic
28:37- Sect 4 What is in My Mic Kit?
28:46 - Shure Beta 58A
30:04 - Tonal Balance in Live PA
30:41 - Shure Beta 57A
32:28 - Sennheiser MD435. The BEST Dynamic.
33:21 - MD435 vs Beta 58A
34:02 - MD435 Condenser Sound from a Dynamic Mic
35:36 - Shure Beta52 for Kick Drum and Bass
36:26 - Sennheiser e604 for Toms and Snare
36:52 - Sennheiser e904 vs e604 for Toms
38:38 - Superlux CM-H8K Hats, Overheads and general purpose
40:13 - Beyer M88 for Sentimental Value!
41:03 - Sect 5 Dirty Cheap Mic Trade Secrets
46:41 - DPA 4099 … do it Cheaper!
42:18 - Ovid C100 vs DPA 4099
44:30 - The T-Bone SC140 Cheap Condenser - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
The BEYER M88 is *NOT* a ribbon microphone. The M130 and M160 Are.
Your channel really is the best I have ever come across when it comes to explaining things in an incredibly detailed, yet entertaining and interesting, way. Before this video I knew literally nothing about microphones but now I feel like I actually know stuff about them and can hear the difference between the types of mics you showed in the video. Definitely glad I found your channel. I’m really into technology as well as audio and music production and you’re providing superb content in all the 3 categories. My new favorite channel and looking forward to your upcoming videos!
Wow! Thank-you so much!
I totally agree! Thank you Mark!
Couldn't have saif it better myself! This is some really high quality content!! I turned on all notifications and subscribed, so you better keep it up 😁💪🏼
If we could only jam your section on proximity and stage signal to noise into the skulls of new engineers, the audio world would be a significantly cleaner and considerably less stressful for them. Love this video, Mark. Thank you!
Amen Bro!
Learned a ton from this. Loving this channel so far 💚
So glad!
This is excellent. I was going to skip ahead but realised it was so good I had to watch it through. Thanks very much!
Priceless! Haven’t learned so much about microphones before. Really great information.
Thanks!
Thank you for explaining it so clear and simple for everyone. Great video
this channel changed my life mate
Excellent explanations!!.. Thank you for the lesson Mark. I have just level up myself on knowledge about microphones. 😊👍
Thank-you!
Great video. Well done!
I have been learning from you all day today and wasn't even looking for your vids but I'm better for them. Keep it up Mark, I'm sold and subscribing right away. So informative.
Awesome, thank you!
Greak video again! Much love and respect!
Appreciate that
amazing content! really helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Mark. Thankyou
Thanks
Really great info Mark!
Glad it was helpful!
great video Mark, thank you!
My pleasure!
Excellent video!
*Fabulous video, thank you sir !*
So nice of you
i got Audix kit a while ago...was great specially D4/D6 on kicks and toms!
Very informative. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent video.
Thank you very much!
Worth listening to the start even if I'd heard how dynamic and condenser mics are different before
Good to hear the Why 🤔❤
great info thanks
Great video!!!!thanks!!!!
Thanks!
Newbie here. Great video. Learned a lot
No BS! excellent!
Thanks for sharing this is supergood info, gear4music have some pen condencers too that are cheap and sound pretty good
Cool!
Fantastic stuff, friend! In the podcast space, it seems that all the tips are equipment-related, e.g. shilling for glossy plastic kit. These are great tips for using starter and midrange equipment well, and making the most of it.
You did end with some equipment tips, but your focus was still on high-value equipment -- your focal point was on the Superlux and T.Bone SDC's, which is likely the most flexible category of microphone.
Great point!
Amazing Amazing - well researched presentation, from a true practitioner. In the best British tradition. Mark Payne, you are the real deal. Everyone who has an interest in microphones, should listen to this.
I must add though, I am a bit peeved with the poor quality of live sound, and I think we need to start moving away from these industry standards microphones to get a higher quality of sound. And it has to start from the source, especially the microphones. Why? The quality of listening tools, headphones, speakers and even live speakers are getting so much better over the years, that the poor quality of these industry standard microphones becomes more apparent, by the day. I think we should continue to challenge ourselves, and improve the quality of live sound, to bring it closer to that of the best quality studio recordings.
Much respect to you, for an absolutely outstanding video. Thank you.
Thanks ✨️👍
ha Thank You Mark, Martial here: I particularly like it because, with the snobbism of this industry equipment, it is brave to do this but necessary I believe. Just like your opinion if you get a chance. All your findings of cheap mics that work just fine are with condensor mics. I find the dynamic M1 Rode ( and I don't support any brand at all ) is very close to a vintage MD421 Mic. LOve it, got many, they go for £40 on ebay sometimes.. they are solid, like the Fz graph response of this mic. In studio , without the bonnet for experimentation, even better... but live it is a solid mic too. Rode M1 check it out.
I will look out for that!
Don’t stop to record new videos!
Not sure if this is a complement or not :-).. maybe Alex is saying... "please never make another video"!
@@MarkPayneAudio He wants more, and we all want MORE Videos! You’re doing an excellent job, best on TH-cam. Most informative and educational videos I have seen on here. Thank you for your videos!
@@DJTOMB96 Totally agree with Brian! You make absolutely simple to understand things
Thank you very much! Good job! From russia with respect!
Thank you too!
You're my go to touchstone when comparing the audio on any other YT site with mic and audio gear reviews. The c414 is beyond my budget...I have a Rode NT1, Sennheiser MK4, Origin and SE2200...is there anything else I should consider. I go through a Behringer UV1...all for YT videos.
Hey Mark, I’ve been a pro keyboardist for about 27 years now, just watched your video here and can’t thank you enough for such a lovely presentation.. I’ve not got a clue about mics and your video has opened my eyes 🤣🤣
I play keys and sing in a UK Bon Jovi Tribute Band and alternate what I use when I feel like it 🤣 I wear IEMS on stage
over the years I’ve built up a few nice mics, I currently own the following below, but wanted to ask what your thoughts were on an Audio Technica AE5400, to use at home to just sing through while wearing my headphones…. I’m only using a Soundcraft EFX Mixer
I have
1 x Heil PR35
1 x Heil PR37
1 x Shure Beta 58
1 x Beyerdynamic M88TG
1 x Sennheiser E965
1 x Audio Technica AE6100
Hey! Good luck with the band. My tribute project was Genesis Visible Touch ... I had to finish on that as we returned back from Covid as I really got too old for the touring and my body did not want to do shows again! I don't know the AE5400 ... looking that up now... Arh! It has the same capsule as the AT4050 which I have used ... these are very good. So you are getting a vocal version of a nice budget-mid range studio condenser. I like the idea. That would be a keeper I think.
Hi Mark Thanks for sharing your microphone secrets, what are you thoughts on using Logic for live recording of a full concert ? how would you setup Logic to run for over 2 hours ? I ve seen some feed back about changing the Time signature to 60Bpm and some people also suggest that you change the File format to CAF ?
Great video Mark…..very informative and you beautifully simplify things but not dumb it down…what mic would you use if you wanted to record a piano? Thanks again.
Go with a pencil condenser or large diaphragm condenser.
@@MarkPayneAudio Thanks very much.....
Hi Mark i hope you are well
Nice! Sorry to be that guy but Beyerdynamic m88 is dynamic not ribbonmic
Try it on guitar amp 👌
Ok thanks!
Great dirty secrets!!
Hello mark!
It's been a while since you last posted anything... And i remember you talking about not feeling well the last time we spoke.
I hope you've been doing well. Also, waiting for your next video :D
I am well. Just been prioritising other things!
Thanks Mark, this is very instructive and complete 👍
Which well balanced dynamic mic would you recommend around $150 for vocals home-recording ? I sing some Steely Dan, Michael MacDonald, Christopher Cross etc.
Thank you, again :)
Shure Beta 58 .. cant go wrong.
@@MarkPayneAudio thank you very much, Mark ! 😉
Can you recomend the MD 435 for voiceover and Audiobook production? My room isn’t bad, but not fully protected. Because of that, I wanted to go with a dynamic mic. I own already own the Sennheiser e865.
Wow.... that warehouse must have some security;-)
Indeed! Watch out for the dogs!
Recently I picked up a stereo matched pair of Behringer C2 SDCs for $60 USD and I'm thrilled with their quality. Also the Roswell Pro Audio stuff is all really great as well. I have a pair of the Mini K47s and they've been getting a lot of use.
Also, "A moist vocalist"- Hahaha!!!
We
like moist!
Hi Mark, it's been a while since you uploaded any new videos. Have you been really busy now the pandemic has eased? BTW a great video, I'll use it as a reference for people working with me
Thanks John. Honestly the YT thing was a pandemic project for me and being a Grandad and sailing has taken a lot of my time. I have been thinking of doing more as we look at winter but its a lot of work :-)
@@MarkPayneAudio yep, it is a lot of work producing a video. It was work well done.😎
Hello, any recommendations for a mic that can fight the nasty feedback on live stages? I'm micing my acoustic guitar for live shows and I don't really use any Piezo or transducer. Sharing the stage with 8 musicians and it's a nightmare to organize the speaker monitors which creates all kinds of feedback.
A recommendation for a mic that can handle feedbacks (somehow at least) would be appreciated. My budget is around 300 EUR
Thank you
Which microphone should I use to make me sound like Steve Perry?
Btw, the only difference between e904 and e604 is the enclosure. They use the same capsule, etc. However the stiffer enclosure results to tighter sound and better transient response.
Fine... my issue with the e904 is its self weight bouncing around on the clip.
@@MarkPayneAudio Yes. The clip itself isn't the best. I've seen some people switching them to Audix clips and K&M clips.
Personally I've switched pretty much to Beyerdynamics TG D35/D57/TG58's. They have a really good price/quality/fun-ratio.
I would not mind if Ilived in there.LOL! 🤣🥰😋💗💯👍
Hi!! I would like your opinion about the mackie mr 524 monitors. Are good? I don't know if to Buy this ir Adams t5v. In order To mix, produce and listening to music. I need something versatile un that Range of price
Hmm, I have not heard either of these so it is hard to comment. I personally use the very inexpensive Tannoy Reveal monitors. You would want the Tannoy Reveal 502 as an equivalent size to the Mackie you mention.
@@MarkPayneAudio are they good???
I don’t know about mics, but in a speaker, the coil IS the magnet. The electricity running through the coil creates the magnetic field.
Ok well... in a speaker there is a stator (permanent magnet) and an armature (the coil). The coil is not really "the magnet", the magnet surrounding the coil is "the magnet". Yes, as you send a signal to the coil it creates a magnetic field and this interacts with the permanent magnetic field from the stator and the resultant interaction creates movement.
"They always have they're amps to loud don't they" lol.. you touched on drummer and guitar how about the bassist? That Bell mic could do with a filling of silicone...
22:58 . This is annoying … if you’re singing you use mic technique, back away when singing loudly . Don’t touch the fader for the love of god .