The VW isn’t even under 10k The Kia is faster, has 5 seats, a 7 year warranty, is newer than the VW, has proper windows. Fifth Gear chose the shiny VW badge there.
I would go with VW, i had a Hyundai tucson = kia sportage and the reliability was utter shit, very very bad, i would never touch kia or hyundai ever again
So the Aygo scored less because of the pop out windows but the same feature on the Up was okay? No wonder I stopped watching Fifth Gear. Younger TH-camrs have better content than you folk.
It also only has 4 seats and has a much smaller boot. I looked at buying one as a small hatchback family car but compared to the other cars reviewed here it really is a micro car.
rt bigman that’s an insane price. However I work in a Renault dealer and we’ve serviced a couple of Hyundais/Kias within the 7 years and have still been under warranty. It may not be a full warranty as I’ve done suspension work on them but they haven’t been fully voided
@@codykamminga9667 I have an 02 type r ep3 obviously out of warranty but I would not go to Honda for a service.they charge 140 to supply and fit 4 spark plugs I bought them online for 38 and fitted myself in 20 mins.i have a mechanic who is a friend I get him to do all my work he looks after me.fuck service stamp book.
Kia showed that it's much better but the hosts are extremely biased towards VW. The korean car has a better engine, nice finish and qualities, much better guarantee, much higher reliability, more fun to drive, no fake windows in the rear, biggest boot... it's by far the best of the lot.
So the UP! has one less seatbelt than the Picanto, only has popout windows and has marginally less luggage space, yet it beats the Picanto in the practicality scoring? Right.
Been in both, the quality of the materials and how they feel is noticeably better in the VW. If you have a chance to get in both, do it, you'll see what they mean.
Fifth Gear: What's the best car you can buy for under £10k? VW Up!: Erm...actually, I start at £10,370 Fifth Gear: Shut up, we're letting you win, aren't we? Even though you're clearly not superior to the Kia
I agree with you mate you could always see where it was going from the start. Pop out Windows only a 4 seater styling is questionable. Boot is smaller..... Kia Wins for me. Jason was quite domineering with his judging and Johnny just went along with it. In my opinion
I agree, my mum (75+) drives a Kia Picanto beautiful engine lovely gearbox and it's a super well build car as it has survived my mums abusive driving for many years without fault, guess the clutch plate is made from titanium and granite....this car is absolutely bombproof !!!
I think the result makes sense if you MUST have a new car. £10k can get you a lot better used, so I wonder if the average buyer will change it after 3 years? VW clearly knows it as they are on top and stuck in the dark ages with 3yr 60k warranty.
3 seats means more insurance (a big thing for a lot of young drivers) and try using all three. Three adults would be sardines while three child seats or boosters simply don't fit which means its only of any use if you have three kids who all just got out of boosters. The extra belt can be nice in a pinch but its not really something worth designing the car around. It also compromises outer seat design which is why they agreed the two in the up! were larger. Really though if you want a 5 seater go for something larger. It wil be safer, more comfortable, easier to use child seats and generally just better. Its also likely to have a much larger boot which if you've got 5 in the car often will make a difference too.
@@supaahflyy By the way I think the Kia is the better car. Just that 3 seats in a tiny car doesn't make as much sense as two. Now having a spare belt in the 2 seat config would make sense but designing it as a 3 seat compromises all the rear seats for the sake of a centre one which is semi-unusable at best.
I don't get your point how VW has better fit and finish! It has no grab handles both front or rear, no proper windows in the back as opposed to KIA and also KIA has better build and materials along with the interior design. It offers 7 year guarantee which makes the VW's so called reliability (if you think so) out of equation.
The Picanto in Australia is equivalent to 7100 English pounds. The UP is an outdated slow, underwarranted car am guessing they spend more on advertising.
It's not if you need a car that gets you to your job in the morning and back in the evening every time, reliably. Used cars are always less reliable and a full warranty can save a ton of money on repairs if something goes wrong.
I agree. Right until the point where your out of warranty car gets a massive repair bill. Doesn't happen often these days but it does happen and you don't want to be the guy on the receiving end.
The Kia should have won. For a few years now Hyundai Kia has been consistently making the most reliable cars. I'm not just talking about the engine here but faults reported per hundred units overall. The Up's lack of proper rear opening windows is awful and I would hate to spend 2 minutes in there. That plus the other long list of positives for the Kia.
@@Khan_is_mongol think about actually using the car kia offers more than double the warranty of vw and are scoring leagues above them in reliability surveys picanto is much more practial and also has sporty versions all that while being cheaper the only thing vw has for them is brand recognition from people who think cars are still made like they were in the 90s/00s and debatably interior quality
the kia is more stylish than the up, has a 5th seat, has rear roll-down windows, faster, better warranty, has grab handles, better to drive, cheaper and has a bigger boot. But since vw make the golf gti which is one of the worst off the new bread of hot-hatchs yet fifth gear loved it. The up wins. BIASSSSSSSS
KIA hands down, why? it superior on every aspect except interior design, fit and finish. but that thing will last for sure than VW, 7 Years warranty is good.. the Fuel consumption is good.. Chassis is good.. engine n gb is good.. space is good.. service is good..
@@jurmalniex I have a 7 year old Hyundai, never had a problem getting anything fixed. I'm guessing the dealer is your problem. Ask around and find a dealer with a good reputation.
@@N1ckZ VW has some of the worst reliability going and the up is a poor car bad electrics always broken headlights awful Automatic gear box and under powered.I get a loads of VW in with issues Kia hardly any if so there out of warranty and just need the basics tyres,brake pads,wipers .
I have trouble believing you favoured the vw's generic, textbook looks over the gorgeous little kia?!? As previously said, the kia's reliability will outrun the vw. especially with a se7en year warranty, seriously!
Right from the beginning..both reviewer were biased for the VW Up! ..without a doubt Kia was a better car but its unfortunate to see reviewers jst choosing what they like personally..very bad..
That’s a fair point but that is changing, all you have to go is look at the prices of second Hyundai’s and Kias over the last four years, your paying the same money now for certain models in them brands as you were four years ago, I know all cars have seen a rise for the first time I ever remember but people wanting hood quality and reliability and jumping to Hyundai Kia products no doubt.
yeah the Kia is definitely the best buy. bigger boot, better engine, 5 seats, roll down rear windows, 7 year guarantee instead of 5. And then you're not giving money to the thoroughly criminal Volkswagen Group
If I'm in the market for these cars, im not coming into the market with much money to begin with. So that means what I value is value, peace of mind that comes with a long warranty, low servicing costs, low running costs, low insurance costs. Practicality would be second, I'm not buying a sports car, I want the one that I can drive to and from work/school/get around. Somewhere down near the bottom would be build quality, yeh sure I want a car with better build quality, but at this price point that's not a huge issue if comparing two cars and the build quality isn't vastly different. With those parameters thought about, why anyone in this hypothetical situation would choose the VW I have no idea. The only reason you'd chose it is for the apparently superior badge presence and it's said by someone with lots more money that can afford for things to go wrong after warranty periods....which is NOT the target market for this segment of car
Can't quite understand why the Up! scored equal with Picanto in space while it is down on cargo capacity, even if by a little, and a full seat from the second row. And well.. since there have been several VW-s in the family, I think I'd rather go for the 7 year warranty...
Considering at least one of these cars is already over 10k I feel like the MG or even the sandero should have had a better chance. The kit you can get on the MG3 is pretty impressive and they're both so much more spacious...
Mat Davies: We had an UP for three years it was faultless and regularly delivered 54mpg in real life. The engine noise was a hoot and the only time you knew about it was when you put 4 adults in it. The acceleration and hill climbing was poor and the braking took a little longer. 39 years ago I had the original Panda. It rusted to nothing and a px value of £500 in 4 years and 65,000 miles. It still made me smile every time I drove it! GRV 234X where are you now.......
I now have a Skoda Citigo and it's identical to the UP! And i think it's an excellent car of you travel alot in the city. The only thing it fails is when it has to go up a hill, that 1.0 l is very weak. And also when overtaking a vehicle.
I have a 1998 Peugeot 106 diesel. Cost me £500 three years ago and still worth that now. Not let me down and I have put 30k on it. Does 80mpg on a run driving steadily. You can keep your new cars.....
@@russcattell955i since when? Last year i just got the citigo and now it's the electric version in the dealer. Plus the regular one is still available.
Get the Sandero and the remaining 3k you can use to buy yourself 55" TV, a week of skiing in the Alps and a week on resting somewhere in the south of Europe.
Come on... build quality? What about equipment? Safety? The Kia offers better equipment in the midrange model (like EX) and It feels like a bigger car, the UP missing the central A\C vents in the dashboard, something that can be very annoying in an hot country, the door cover in the Picanto fully covers the door and there are more things. Also, the Picanto available with an automatic gear box, while the UP available with the ASG gear box (with single clutch), which is less smoother than the standart automatic gearbox in the Kia. Where I live, the Picanto offered with Autonomous braking even in the lower spec model. It's a big success here, It's the most sold car in the Mini category in our coutry. The UP wasn't a big success here, also the Citigo and the Mii also weren't a big success here.
It was evident whivh one is gonna win from the moment you gave better scores to up in space dept. It had a smaller boot and smaller back seat space and still somehow got 4.5. that is just biased.
Don't care too much about what they say. If you're after a car like this, go and test drive them yourself, these guys have presented the offerings to you. This is just for entertainment purposes and bit of marketing, in my opinion.
So Fifth Gear the car with a smaller boot, has one less seat and is noticeably underpowered, more expensive to buy and has less equipment is easier to live with everyday🤔 WHAT A JOKE!!!!🤣
So let me get this straight: The VW up! gets you less boot space, less seats, it's not quite as fun to drive (which I know for having hired the both of them), it's more expensive, and you get less kit as standard (I mean, if you're willing to splurge a little bit more - and I mean VERY LITTLE - you get loads more equipment in the Kia, too), and yet the up! WINS the lifestyle test? Oh and btw, why is the styling an element of the practicality test? You make no sense. Oh, and good job on the dreariness. Why you guys were never as popular as Top Gear, I'll never know...
Kia is the winner for me as the VW UP, is just a rebadged ARGO. Also Kia gets 7 year warranty, Kia’s not going to give you that if they didn’t build their cars well. Also they didn’t give the MG much of a chance. I think the whole test was pointless as they were always going to put VW first.
From all of those cars I'd pick only the Dacia. It's very reliable, the suspension is built tough. I know.. the ride is a bit harsh but for all that space it is the most grown up car from all of them. And by far the most reliable.
Why so much love for vw in Europe? I have a 10 year old Jetta in the drive I got for free. It has so many electrical problems it was considered unfixable. The Jetta interior is lovely though. On the other hand I daily drive a 257k mile 19 year old Camry with zero problems. I got 33mpg in the Camry the last road trip.
I Still don’t understand the appeal. My Toyota Camry has 260k and has needed only a couple of minor repairs and regular maintenance. I haven’t needed a garage to repair it or be familiar with it. It’s a simple car. The Jetta in the drive is an over complicated turd. Beautiful interior though.
VW group spends A L O T on good PR. Not only pushing expensive Audis into Hollywood movies/sitcoms, or giving Golf GTI to Clarkson. This here is not a test, it's an advertisement.
Lost all credibility when you gave the Up more than the picanto for space. You even said the boot is smaller and the there's only 2 seats in the back. Not sure you understand how rating systems work Confusing. That up was going to win before the test had even started.
Again these guys decide the Verdict based on the badge and the snob value ( even though volkswagen does not a snob or the badge value) , I think the picanto is great car and way better than the up
I could tell which way this was heading from the start, there are plenty of downs about the UP. I don’t really like the outside styling of the Kia the wheels looks too small I don’t like the grill styling, I was drawn to the steering wheel And surprised at his keen drive. 7 year warranty ? I think Kia was a clear winner their being biased towards brand snobbery of the VW
The Up in the test looks like a top spec one - £12.5k, not £10k - that's nearly twice the price of a basic Dacia Sandero (not the Stepway)........ The Up is an impressive car and a good drive, but I the Dacia is hard to ignore if you are on a tight budget.
Who think that the MG and the Dacia are better than the other four? They are bigger, have more space and lol, Dacia has almost twice the ground clearance. SO I guess Dacia was eliminated because of the ground clearance that makes it not so stable that the others and the roof bars that make noise. MG was eliminated because is more powerful than others. Keep doing good reviews guys :))
I have the MG3 myself. It has a 7 year warranty too in the UK atleast. My one is a second hand 19 plate. Aside from the previous owners parking ticket being stuck in the dashboard, which I got sorted out easily enough, it's been great. Fast compared to the competitors, 5 seconds faster 0-60 than the equivalent base fiesta, good handling too. There's apparent wind noise at high speed on the motorway/highway, but even so, overall I'm very pleased. I'm disappointed they just disregarded the MG when it drives better than the other cars, besides maybe the Kia.
Should have included Suzuki Celerio.Good reliable, economical hatchback and good 3 cylinder engine and decent boot, 4 proper windows, low insurance, 60+ mpg
So the Kia had 5 seats and more space than the Up! But, the Up! scored higher on space?.......... The Kia is faster and more fun to drive, but loses out to the Up!?
Okay this is stupid because the only car over there that costs ~10.000 is the Sandero. For 10.000 cars all the other cars would have got only: a plastic interior with ac, radio and a steering wheel, nothing else.
You had the 1.2L Picanto as you said it has 25 more horsepower than the Up. There's no way in hell you can get a brand new 1.2L Picanto for under 10 grand in the UK. With 1L engines, they are both just as quick in a straight line.
Jason Jason Jason why did you even have Johnny there. You dominated the judging. I would say there's a bit of Prejudice going on here. I'm not saying you're racist. Far from it. Let me say that again. AM NOT SAYING YOU'RE RACIST . but when I look at the badges of the cars. I can't help but look at. BMW Audi Mercedes-Benz. Do i need to mention more German cars i see badge snobbery plus the UP is not a £10:000 car and if you have bothered to read the comments you will see the true opinion of which car should of won. I bet if there was a BMW there. And came with no warranty whatsoever. And claims it was a four seater but can only seat two and had the boot space of a laptop and had the worst fuel efficiency it would win.
I like the Toyota Aygo (Peugeot 107/Citroen 1). It has a really robust engine using a timing chain, think they dismissed it too quickly because of the small rear seating
VW up good styling?? ( VW Down beter name) Looks like a microwave or a fridge from behind, especially a white color one. Kia Picanto wins for me. No doubt. Also better warranty.
So.... The Up seats less people, is slower, doesn't have wind down windows in the back and doesn't even have fully trimmed doors, but you would pick it over the Picanto why?
So the Kia has more rear storage, more folding storage, more power, better handling, seating for 5 and a better interior, so you picked the Volkswagen. Wish I could buy that Kia in the US.
When the engines a 1.5L, it doesn't even matter what the fuel consumption is, its just good. And you may as well get a good driving experience while youre driving an econobox. The MG is a serious contender
I own the MG3 and I'm so disappointed they disregarded it so quickly. They even said it feels more expensive than it is, like c'mon. The MG has a 7 year warranty too
My personal Score: 1. KIA -> warranty, space 2. Dacia -> "real car", space 3. Toyota -> running cost and reliability 4. Fiat -> practical design 5. VW -> overpriced and built from cheaters ? MG -> never heard of it, so I can't score it, but dealerships must be rare
VW: I have a smaller boot and one less seat in the back than the Kia Fifth gear: in terms of space I think the VW is better than the Kia Okay....... Did I miss the part where youtube says "includes paid promotion"??
Not that lap times would matter in everyday use or a 5th seat in the back, which is actually same wide as in a 4 seater (so you can't actually fit more person), BUT the 7 years warranty does also make it cheaper on long term, which is especially important for buyers of this segment. The higher equipment level on the KIA is not that much more expensive, while it gives you comfort functions like the VW would never give in this class. Simply said, KIA gives much more for your money, so it is also a winner in price/performance points. [I am also glad to see KIA owners confirming my views in other comments... ;o) ]
MostlyWeed only up to a point, I have an mx5 which is slow but fun to drive, and a V8 Audi which is on another level fast compared to the mx5 but is fun to drive also, mx5 for a sunny B road blast, V8 Audi for everything else.
Tried all these cars then bought a Picanto 3 spec automatic in white. Have now driven 29,000 miles with zero faults or issues. That VW will give a whole lot of trouble and the dealers are hopeless.
In 2002 i bought a brand new Kia Sedona 2.9 turbo diesel.......the plan was to find a people carrier that we would keep for 10 yrs........ Looked at the rivals, and the Kia was the cheapest by far, and even then had the best warranty. Kept it for 12 yrs and 178 thousand miles, we drove it to the south of France packed to the gunnels with 3 kids and roofbox - 5 yrs in a row. Faults in the yrs of ownership: 1 wheel bearing ( after 8 yrs) Alternator ( after 11 yrs) 1 door handle (7 yrs). So, in all that time it never needed anything other than maintenance, and was still on the original gearbox, exhaust system and clutch. It was never a drivers vehicle, but I didn't buy it for that - it was just so reliable. As the kids grew up we downsized and bought a 2nd hand Kia Carens which also proved to be reliable - that was eventually part ex'd for a Suzuki SX4. I would not hesitate to buy another Kia.
Am I reading this wrong, the title say's the best car for under 10K, with the VW costing £10,370 why is it in the comparison, do fifth gear think we are all stupid?
The format of these tests is pretty dumb for actual consumer information - eliminating cars that may have scored well in the upcoming round before they even get a chance. So you never hear how they rate the practicality or styling of the MG for instance, based on its worse fuel economy.
Of course the VW won, these are honestly all such biased reviews. Clearly though the interior quality wouldn’t have been as up to notch as that outdated Volkswagen UP, the KIA was way better in every other aspect.
Mine's a Hyundai i10 which I believe is the same underneath as the Kia. Having had Apple Car Play for a while, I'd hate to go without it -- how many of these have that as an option, and what does it cost?
Some major things every reviewer forgets to include in their budjet car reviews are (1) Crash Resistance of Chassis, Not amount of airbags but the crumple zones, quality of metal used, thickness etc. (2) because they are budjet cars, most likely persons would be doing a bit of DIY and repair so how easy it is to do simple tasks like oil change, filter change, Sparkplugs etc.(3) does it come with a DVD screen or display with a rear view camera standard or how simple would it be to add. (4) How well do the factory headlamps show on the road at night in the city as well as lesser roads also is it easy to change a lightbulb in the headlamp or does the bumper have to be removed etc. These are the real deal items that buyers need to know. Just because they don't have a lot to spend on a vehicle does not mean that they should get screwed by only having to resort to the dealer for regular car maintainance etc Plus the world would be in a recession for a while following this current pandemic and most people would opt to do easy repair work themselves and they are looking to save money for the essentials like food.
Good test, helped me make my mind up and bought the Picanto. Anything that comes 2nd to a 'can't lose VW no matter' on 5th Gear is obviously the real best buy. The interior on the VW is laughably sparce! Thank you, my son is delighted with his Picanto!
I drive a VW Golf and I reckon the Picanto has a nicer interior than the Up!. Clearly more features, more practical, and I’d say objectively the Kia’s a better car! Also VW discontinued the Up! in Australia due to poor sales, whereas the Picanto sells strongly over here
@@fivish you'll get many more. My 1st generation Picanto has got 250000 km (that's a quarter million) on the clock and it's still going strong for a car of that vintage. I just bought a new one to replace it.
The VW isn’t even under 10k
The Kia is faster, has 5 seats, a 7 year warranty, is newer than the VW, has proper windows.
Fifth Gear chose the shiny VW badge there.
I would go with VW, i had a Hyundai tucson = kia sportage and the reliability was utter shit, very very bad, i would never touch kia or hyundai ever again
You just need to feel the difference, on the VW everything put together very well. And atleast for me that is very important.
@@gandalfwiz20007 I have a Kia. Quality and reliability is very good.
I came here to write the same thing!
@@hoen2009 That used to be the case, nowadays Kia is just as good. VW just still sells because of the badge and reputation.
So the Aygo scored less because of the pop out windows but the same feature on the Up was okay?
No wonder I stopped watching Fifth Gear. Younger TH-camrs have better content than you folk.
It also only has 4 seats and has a much smaller boot.
I looked at buying one as a small hatchback family car but compared to the other cars reviewed here it really is a micro car.
7 years warranty worth a serious consideration.
fauzan riez Well, you will then have to have it dealer maintained, which may make it expensive
cody kamminga I think the Kia/Hyundai warranty applies if you service the car away from a main dealer
rt bigman that’s an insane price. However I work in a Renault dealer and we’ve serviced a couple of Hyundais/Kias within the 7 years and have still been under warranty. It may not be a full warranty as I’ve done suspension work on them but they haven’t been fully voided
@@codykamminga9667 I have an 02 type r ep3 obviously out of warranty but I would not go to Honda for a service.they charge 140 to supply and fit 4 spark plugs I bought them online for 38 and fitted myself in 20 mins.i have a mechanic who is a friend I get him to do all my work he looks after me.fuck service stamp book.
cody kamminga no you don’t, you can have the car serviced at any garage as long as they are VAT registered and use genuine/recommended Kia parts.
Kia showed that it's much better but the hosts are extremely biased towards VW. The korean car has a better engine, nice finish and qualities, much better guarantee, much higher reliability, more fun to drive, no fake windows in the rear, biggest boot... it's by far the best of the lot.
agreed
zakkerly. vw hypnotist got to 'em. racism jah
And the Up! is over 10 grand
Exactly. To me, if you're a petrolhead on a budget, you'd buy the Picanto.
No, I have had both, the VW is far superior
So the UP! has one less seatbelt than the Picanto, only has popout windows and has marginally less luggage space, yet it beats the Picanto in the practicality scoring? Right.
Has way more room in the back
Sponsored by VW
Vlad Mihai and one less seat
Been in both, the quality of the materials and how they feel is noticeably better in the VW. If you have a chance to get in both, do it, you'll see what they mean.
And looks like a box!
Fifth Gear: What's the best car you can buy for under £10k?
VW Up!: Erm...actually, I start at £10,370
Fifth Gear: Shut up, we're letting you win, aren't we? Even though you're clearly not superior to the Kia
all british car shows are vw ads
It's all to do with name brand because we know if there was a BMW there. Say no more. Your summery is Spot On by the way
i would never suggest they've taken a folding-cash bung, in an unmarked envelope. no
Everyone has £10,000 but not 370 more? It’s almost like the Up! is a better car
THis was a pointless exercise as they were (as usual) going to pick the VW. There is no way the Kia should have lost that & it was the best car there.
I agree with you mate you could always see where it was going from the start. Pop out Windows only a 4 seater styling is questionable. Boot is smaller..... Kia Wins for me. Jason was quite domineering with his judging and Johnny just went along with it. In my opinion
Agreed
Exactly, not to mention after 5 years the Kia will still be mint and the VW be falling apart.
I agree, my mum (75+) drives a Kia Picanto beautiful engine lovely gearbox and it's a super well build car as it has survived my mums abusive driving for many years without fault, guess the clutch plate is made from titanium and granite....this car is absolutely bombproof !!!
You're right, Mike. They both liked the Kia and then changed their mind.
So the most expensive car won, while the faster car with 7 years warranty didn't? Good going.
First time I’ve ever seen the better car to drive with a -7 secs a lap time advantage loose.
I think the result makes sense if you MUST have a new car. £10k can get you a lot better used, so I wonder if the average buyer will change it after 3 years? VW clearly knows it as they are on top and stuck in the dark ages with 3yr 60k warranty.
Up 4.5 out of 5 No only 2 seats in back. Kia 4 out of 5, 3 seats.
3 seats means more insurance (a big thing for a lot of young drivers) and try using all three. Three adults would be sardines while three child seats or boosters simply don't fit which means its only of any use if you have three kids who all just got out of boosters.
The extra belt can be nice in a pinch but its not really something worth designing the car around. It also compromises outer seat design which is why they agreed the two in the up! were larger.
Really though if you want a 5 seater go for something larger. It wil be safer, more comfortable, easier to use child seats and generally just better. Its also likely to have a much larger boot which if you've got 5 in the car often will make a difference too.
@@siraff4461 I'd rather 3 seats for the price of 2 or rather, for less than the price of 2
@@supaahflyy If all else was equal I would agree but since it isn't I don't. Having more of something isn't a gain if that more is compromised.
@@supaahflyy By the way I think the Kia is the better car. Just that 3 seats in a tiny car doesn't make as much sense as two.
Now having a spare belt in the 2 seat config would make sense but designing it as a 3 seat compromises all the rear seats for the sake of a centre one which is semi-unusable at best.
Si Raff in my experience 4 seats has been more expensive to insure for myself vs 5 seats.
I don't get your point how VW has better fit and finish! It has no grab handles both front or rear, no proper windows in the back as opposed to KIA and also KIA has better build and materials along with the interior design. It offers 7 year guarantee which makes the VW's so called reliability (if you think so) out of equation.
The Picanto in Australia is equivalent to 7100 English pounds. The UP is an outdated slow, underwarranted car am guessing they spend more on advertising.
Wayne Hobbs here in Brazil we have de up TSI that has the same engine that the up GTI.
and on jollys
The best car to buy under £10k is a second hand one...
True, i wont spent money on these micro runners
I would rather have a brand new car
It's not if you need a car that gets you to your job in the morning and back in the evening every time, reliably. Used cars are always less reliable and a full warranty can save a ton of money on repairs if something goes wrong.
I agree. Right until the point where your out of warranty car gets a massive repair bill. Doesn't happen often these days but it does happen and you don't want to be the guy on the receiving end.
@@siraff4461 That's why you get rid of the car the moment its warranty ends (if you can) - or purchase an extended warranty.
People who buy these cars are looking for reliable, economical and bang for your buck. Imo Kia wins, 7 year warranty.
My Picanto has 29,000 fault free miles, but 35 mpg is dissapointing but normal.
Dacia has an 0.9t turbo benzin , good motor and good price
The Kia should have won. For a few years now Hyundai Kia has been consistently making the most reliable cars. I'm not just talking about the engine here but faults reported per hundred units overall. The Up's lack of proper rear opening windows is awful and I would hate to spend 2 minutes in there. That plus the other long list of positives for the Kia.
Hyundai / Kia / Genesis cars are winning Car if the Year awards around the world...
The Kia is the most dangerous car of them all. It’s a death trap.
THINK ABOUT THE RESALE VALUE, THE UP HOLDS IT THE KIA DONT. PLUS THE SPACE AND BUILD QUALITY, GET A TURBO UP DOES 0-60 IN 9.2S. SO CLEARLY THE UP
My Picanto has 29,000 fault free miles.
@@Khan_is_mongol think about actually using the car
kia offers more than double the warranty of vw and are scoring leagues above them in reliability surveys
picanto is much more practial and also has sporty versions
all that while being cheaper
the only thing vw has for them is brand recognition from people who think cars are still made like they were in the 90s/00s and debatably interior quality
the kia is more stylish than the up, has a 5th seat, has rear roll-down windows, faster, better warranty, has grab handles, better to drive, cheaper and has a bigger boot. But since vw make the golf gti which is one of the worst off the new bread of hot-hatchs yet fifth gear loved it. The up wins. BIASSSSSSSS
KIA hands down, why?
it superior on every aspect except interior design, fit and finish.
but that thing will last for sure than VW,
7 Years warranty is good..
the Fuel consumption is good..
Chassis is good..
engine n gb is good..
space is good..
service is good..
No, I would never even touch a kia. Not even in a million years.
7 years warranty is just an empty promise. When my KIA started to have problems under warranty, dealer refused to fix anything.
@@N1ckZ badge snob.. pfft..
@@jurmalniex I have a 7 year old Hyundai, never had a problem getting anything fixed. I'm guessing the dealer is your problem. Ask around and find a dealer with a good reputation.
@@N1ckZ VW has some of the worst reliability going and the up is a poor car bad electrics always broken headlights awful Automatic gear box and under powered.I get a loads of VW in with issues Kia hardly any if so there out of warranty and just need the basics tyres,brake pads,wipers .
I have trouble believing you favoured the vw's generic, textbook looks over the gorgeous little kia?!? As previously said, the kia's reliability will outrun the vw. especially with a se7en year warranty, seriously!
Servicing, maintenance and running cost should be included in this segment of car.
Funny how they only did those when they showcased old cars :p
And THAT gives you KIA as the obvious winner! ;o)
It can't be, the vw shouldn't even have been here since it's over 10k as it is.
That's why the Up was chosen
@@attilazk kia = hyundai = shit reliability
Right from the beginning..both reviewer were biased for the VW Up! ..without a doubt Kia was a better car but its unfortunate to see reviewers jst choosing what they like personally..very bad..
Almost like the're scared to admit the truth. Whole thing was a sham in the end.
Badge snobbery took the win there
Overall build quality, and long term residual value, that's why the Up, came out top.
That’s a fair point but that is changing, all you have to go is look at the prices of second Hyundai’s and Kias over the last four years, your paying the same money now for certain models in them brands as you were four years ago, I know all cars have seen a rise for the first time I ever remember but people wanting hood quality and reliability and jumping to Hyundai Kia products no doubt.
I’d rather have the KIA, a better and more fun car to drive, and an amazing 7 year warranty it’s the one for me if I had to choose.
@Nick Fox don't get the Kia it received 0 stars in crash test😥😥😣😣
yeah the Kia is definitely the best buy. bigger boot, better engine, 5 seats, roll down rear windows, 7 year guarantee instead of 5.
And then you're not giving money to the thoroughly criminal Volkswagen Group
VW clearly lost. In Canada, quality of VW isn't better then the Korean. So double whammy.
If I'm in the market for these cars, im not coming into the market with much money to begin with. So that means what I value is value, peace of mind that comes with a long warranty, low servicing costs, low running costs, low insurance costs. Practicality would be second, I'm not buying a sports car, I want the one that I can drive to and from work/school/get around. Somewhere down near the bottom would be build quality, yeh sure I want a car with better build quality, but at this price point that's not a huge issue if comparing two cars and the build quality isn't vastly different.
With those parameters thought about, why anyone in this hypothetical situation would choose the VW I have no idea. The only reason you'd chose it is for the apparently superior badge presence and it's said by someone with lots more money that can afford for things to go wrong after warranty periods....which is NOT the target market for this segment of car
Can't quite understand why the Up! scored equal with Picanto in space while it is down on cargo capacity, even if by a little, and a full seat from the second row. And well.. since there have been several VW-s in the family, I think I'd rather go for the 7 year warranty...
The best thing about the 7 year warranty is that you dont need it. I have driven 29,000 fault free miles in my Picanto.
Considering at least one of these cars is already over 10k I feel like the MG or even the sandero should have had a better chance. The kit you can get on the MG3 is pretty impressive and they're both so much more spacious...
We used to have a VW Up, it was forever at the garage - now have a Picanto which is a much better car.
Mat Davies: We had an UP for three years it was faultless and regularly delivered 54mpg in real life. The engine noise was a hoot and the only time you knew about it was when you put 4 adults in it. The acceleration and hill climbing was poor and the braking took a little longer.
39 years ago I had the original Panda. It rusted to nothing and a px value of £500 in 4 years and 65,000 miles. It still made me smile every time I drove it!
GRV 234X where are you now.......
I now have a Skoda Citigo and it's identical to the UP! And i think it's an excellent car of you travel alot in the city. The only thing it fails is when it has to go up a hill, that 1.0 l is very weak. And also when overtaking a vehicle.
I have a 1998 Peugeot 106 diesel. Cost me £500 three years ago and still worth that now. Not let me down and I have put 30k on it. Does 80mpg on a run driving steadily. You can keep your new cars.....
@@gandalfwiz20007 VW has cancelled the Skoda & Seat versions in the hope of you spending more.
@@russcattell955i since when? Last year i just got the citigo and now it's the electric version in the dealer. Plus the regular one is still available.
Get the Sandero and the remaining 3k you can use to buy yourself 55" TV, a week of skiing in the Alps and a week on resting somewhere in the south of Europe.
And much better reliability
Come on... build quality?
What about equipment? Safety?
The Kia offers better equipment in the midrange model (like EX) and It feels like a bigger car, the UP missing the central A\C vents in the dashboard, something that can be very annoying in an hot country, the door cover in the Picanto fully covers the door and there are more things.
Also, the Picanto available with an automatic gear box, while the UP available with the ASG gear box (with single clutch), which is less smoother than the standart automatic gearbox in the Kia.
Where I live, the Picanto offered with Autonomous braking even in the lower spec model. It's a big success here, It's the most sold car in the Mini category in our coutry.
The UP wasn't a big success here, also the Citigo and the Mii also weren't a big success here.
It was evident whivh one is gonna win from the moment you gave better scores to up in space dept. It had a smaller boot and smaller back seat space and still somehow got 4.5. that is just biased.
Don't care too much about what they say. If you're after a car like this, go and test drive them yourself, these guys have presented the offerings to you. This is just for entertainment purposes and bit of marketing, in my opinion.
Love the brand bias
So Fifth Gear the car with a smaller boot, has one less seat and is noticeably underpowered, more expensive to buy and has less equipment is easier to live with everyday🤔 WHAT A JOKE!!!!🤣
So let me get this straight: The VW up! gets you less boot space, less seats, it's not quite as fun to drive (which I know for having hired the both of them), it's more expensive, and you get less kit as standard (I mean, if you're willing to splurge a little bit more - and I mean VERY LITTLE - you get loads more equipment in the Kia, too), and yet the up! WINS the lifestyle test? Oh and btw, why is the styling an element of the practicality test? You make no sense.
Oh, and good job on the dreariness. Why you guys were never as popular as Top Gear, I'll never know...
I went and drove all and I highly recommend the Kia. Hands down!
Kia is the winner for me as the VW UP, is just a rebadged ARGO. Also Kia gets 7 year warranty, Kia’s not going to give you that if they didn’t build their cars well. Also they didn’t give the MG much of a chance. I think the whole test was pointless as they were always going to put VW first.
From all of those cars I'd pick only the Dacia. It's very reliable, the suspension is built tough. I know.. the ride is a bit harsh but for all that space it is the most grown up car from all of them. And by far the most reliable.
George Huser Agree , but they should have used the Stepway , we have a duster, great car .
Why so much love for vw in Europe? I have a 10 year old Jetta in the drive I got for free. It has so many electrical problems it was considered unfixable. The Jetta interior is lovely though. On the other hand I daily drive a 257k mile 19 year old Camry with zero problems. I got 33mpg in the Camry the last road trip.
I Still don’t understand the appeal. My Toyota Camry has 260k and has needed only a couple of minor repairs and regular maintenance. I haven’t needed a garage to repair it or be familiar with it. It’s a simple car. The Jetta in the drive is an over complicated turd. Beautiful interior though.
VW group spends A L O T on good PR. Not only pushing expensive Audis into Hollywood movies/sitcoms, or giving Golf GTI to Clarkson.
This here is not a test, it's an advertisement.
Well that scoring was bollocks
I dunno why they always overate any car with a VW badge on it ... the up isn’t as good as the picanto
Lost all credibility when you gave the Up more than the picanto for space. You even said the boot is smaller and the there's only 2 seats in the back. Not sure you understand how rating systems work Confusing. That up was going to win before the test had even started.
I knew they would pick the boring VW but I'll tell you now, expect cambelt problems, but not with the with the Aygo.
Again these guys decide the Verdict based on the badge and the snob value ( even though volkswagen does not a snob or the badge value) , I think the picanto is great car and way better than the up
He gave the up 4.5/5 in term of styling and it’s looks like a washing machine 😂
Vw Up looks like a microwave or fridge from behind. Especially a white color one.
@@kienfung3045 Easy to put your washing in the boot by mistake! lol
I could tell which way this was heading from the start, there are plenty of downs about the UP. I don’t really like the outside styling of the Kia the wheels looks too small I don’t like the grill styling, I was drawn to the steering wheel And surprised at his keen drive. 7 year warranty ? I think Kia was a clear winner their being biased towards brand snobbery of the VW
Fuel economy should have had scored more..
Why? They're all within a few mpg of each other and this kind of car is usually for low mileage town use.
The Up in the test looks like a top spec one - £12.5k, not £10k - that's nearly twice the price of a basic Dacia Sandero (not the Stepway)........ The Up is an impressive car and a good drive, but I the Dacia is hard to ignore if you are on a tight budget.
Who think that the MG and the Dacia are better than the other four? They are bigger, have more space and lol, Dacia has almost twice the ground clearance. SO I guess Dacia was eliminated because of the ground clearance that makes it not so stable that the others and the roof bars that make noise. MG was eliminated because is more powerful than others. Keep doing good reviews guys :))
I have the MG3 myself. It has a 7 year warranty too in the UK atleast. My one is a second hand 19 plate. Aside from the previous owners parking ticket being stuck in the dashboard, which I got sorted out easily enough, it's been great. Fast compared to the competitors, 5 seconds faster 0-60 than the equivalent base fiesta, good handling too. There's apparent wind noise at high speed on the motorway/highway, but even so, overall I'm very pleased. I'm disappointed they just disregarded the MG when it drives better than the other cars, besides maybe the Kia.
Should have included Suzuki Celerio.Good reliable, economical hatchback and good 3 cylinder engine and decent boot, 4 proper windows, low insurance, 60+ mpg
So the Kia had 5 seats and more space than the Up! But, the Up! scored higher on space?..........
The Kia is faster and more fun to drive, but loses out to the Up!?
New Picanto mk 3.1 has 4 seats.
So uglier (subjective), more expensive, less practical, less fun to drive, no handles in car, shorter warranty vehicle won? OK.
Okay this is stupid because the only car over there that costs ~10.000 is the Sandero. For 10.000 cars all the other cars would have got only: a plastic interior with ac, radio and a steering wheel, nothing else.
Starting be disappointed with this team. Was my fav show but it seems they are being paid to be biased by who pays them more.
You had the 1.2L Picanto as you said it has 25 more horsepower than the Up. There's no way in hell you can get a brand new 1.2L Picanto for under 10 grand in the UK.
With 1L engines, they are both just as quick in a straight line.
But they had the £12k up beats addition so what’s your point
Jason Jason Jason why did you even have Johnny there. You dominated the judging. I would say there's a bit of Prejudice going on here. I'm not saying you're racist. Far from it. Let me say that again. AM NOT SAYING YOU'RE RACIST . but when I look at the badges of the cars. I can't help but look at. BMW Audi Mercedes-Benz. Do i need to mention more German cars i see badge snobbery plus the UP is not a £10:000 car and if you have bothered to read the comments you will see the true opinion of which car should of won. I bet if there was a BMW there. And came with no warranty whatsoever. And claims it was a four seater but can only seat two and had the boot space of a laptop and had the worst fuel efficiency it would win.
Kia is a better car unless you want the more affordable Dacia. Also the UP isn't exactly reliable. That built quality you mentioned is a myth.
A myth that fanboys like to perpetuate but the Germans refuse to back up on paper.
@@ZesPak dacia is the best
Don't care what anyone says, my 1 LTR Vauxhall Viva beats them all, in my totally biased opinion 😂
It's quite obvious they were going for the VW just because of the badge.
I like the Toyota Aygo (Peugeot 107/Citroen 1). It has a really robust engine using a timing chain, think they dismissed it too quickly because of the small rear seating
I'd rather have a Kia than my 108, but it's more expensive.......
VW up good styling?? ( VW Down beter name) Looks like a microwave or a fridge from behind, especially a white color one. Kia Picanto wins for me. No doubt. Also better warranty.
I own a older mg3 and I don’t care I went from a c1 to my 3. I enjoy it more comfortable on motorway and can fit half a race team equipment inside
The Kia is a better deal. More space, more fun to drive, better warranty and similar build quality to the VW.
So.... The Up seats less people, is slower, doesn't have wind down windows in the back and doesn't even have fully trimmed doors, but you would pick it over the Picanto why?
Sponsored by VW
They’re going to end up choosing the Up!. They’ve published this video before. And why doesn’t the Up! have central air vents?
or handles!
Nor does my 108, annoying. To narrow maybe, cost.....The only thing I can get on my driveway. :(
So the Kia has more rear storage, more folding storage, more power, better handling, seating for 5 and a better interior, so you picked the Volkswagen.
Wish I could buy that Kia in the US.
I am confused, the Dacia is £3000 cheaper than the rest and it's first out. Strange one.
When the engines a 1.5L, it doesn't even matter what the fuel consumption is, its just good. And you may as well get a good driving experience while youre driving an econobox.
The MG is a serious contender
I own the MG3 and I'm so disappointed they disregarded it so quickly. They even said it feels more expensive than it is, like c'mon. The MG has a 7 year warranty too
That’s the way I look at compacts, sure they may look boring but much like the picanto they can be fun!
Had an Up as a rental around 5 years ago, boy they must have improved it because it was s**t!
The 7 year warranty is nice, but, if you're really on a budget and want a reliable car, than you want the Toyota.
That is actually a PSA... right... :D
@@attilazk Aygo/C1/108 engine is originally from Daihatsu together with Toyota. Previous generations Aygo/C1/107 also used this same engine.
The biased towards vw it looks worst than all car but gave it 4.5
There is nothing funnier than a snooty car journalist because we know 95% of them have no money and have no basis for snootiness ...
My personal Score:
1. KIA -> warranty, space
2. Dacia -> "real car", space
3. Toyota -> running cost and reliability
4. Fiat -> practical design
5. VW -> overpriced and built from cheaters
? MG -> never heard of it, so I can't score it, but dealerships must be rare
Couldn't agree more what you said about VW. One thing is VW group very good at. And that's with their cheating sofware and marketing.
The Panda 4x4 is incredibly common in the Alps. There really is no better endorsement.
VW: I have a smaller boot and one less seat in the back than the Kia
Fifth gear: in terms of space I think the VW is better than the Kia
Okay....... Did I miss the part where youtube says "includes paid promotion"??
Not that lap times would matter in everyday use or a 5th seat in the back, which is actually same wide as in a 4 seater (so you can't actually fit more person), BUT the 7 years warranty does also make it cheaper on long term, which is especially important for buyers of this segment.
The higher equipment level on the KIA is not that much more expensive, while it gives you comfort functions like the VW would never give in this class.
Simply said, KIA gives much more for your money, so it is also a winner in price/performance points.
[I am also glad to see KIA owners confirming my views in other comments... ;o) ]
Commenting before I watch.. I think they will pick the VW.
Edit- I was right. I would have taken the KIA.
As I understand it, the statistics show Porsche had the best build quality for years, but were beaten last year by Kia. That must say something.
How's about doing this again, but for used hot hatches....
The choices are huge for a 10K £ budget
Fiesta ST, game over.
@@otacon5648 BMW 1series... Game over
Worst car won!
The Toyota is going to be the only one that will outlast your grandkids. I laughed every time VW and quality were mentioned.
It is more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.
If it's fun you want buy a motorbike and beat every car
@@williammcconville4967 Some of the best people I know died unnessesarily in motorcycle crashes.
William McConville but not everyone wants to dress up like a humpback power ranger or donate their organs when they die a horrible painful death.
MostlyWeed only up to a point, I have an mx5 which is slow but fun to drive, and a V8 Audi which is on another level fast compared to the mx5 but is fun to drive also, mx5 for a sunny B road blast, V8 Audi for everything else.
@@Jabber-ig3iw Yeah I like large luxury cars, past the age where I drive modified cars. Now I just want to arrive safe and not too tired from driving.
Tried all these cars then bought a Picanto 3 spec automatic in white.
Have now driven 29,000 miles with zero faults or issues.
That VW will give a whole lot of trouble and the dealers are hopeless.
In 2002 i bought a brand new Kia Sedona 2.9 turbo diesel.......the plan was to find a people carrier that we would keep for 10 yrs........
Looked at the rivals, and the Kia was the cheapest by far, and even then had the best warranty.
Kept it for 12 yrs and 178 thousand miles, we drove it to the south of France packed to the gunnels with 3 kids and roofbox - 5 yrs in a row.
Faults in the yrs of ownership:
1 wheel bearing ( after 8 yrs)
Alternator ( after 11 yrs)
1 door handle (7 yrs).
So, in all that time it never needed anything other than maintenance, and was still on the original gearbox, exhaust system and clutch.
It was never a drivers vehicle, but I didn't buy it for that - it was just so reliable. As the kids grew up we downsized and bought a 2nd hand Kia Carens which also proved to be reliable - that was eventually part ex'd for a Suzuki SX4.
I would not hesitate to buy another Kia.
Am I reading this wrong, the title say's the best car for under 10K, with the VW costing £10,370 why is it in the comparison, do fifth gear think we are all stupid?
The format of these tests is pretty dumb for actual consumer information - eliminating cars that may have scored well in the upcoming round before they even get a chance. So you never hear how they rate the practicality or styling of the MG for instance, based on its worse fuel economy.
I bet if they peeled off the VW badge and stuck it to any of the other cars it would suddenly win...for some totally unbiased reason.
Of course the VW won, these are honestly all such biased reviews. Clearly though the interior quality wouldn’t have been as up to notch as that outdated Volkswagen UP, the KIA was way better in every other aspect.
What? The picanto has the 7 year warranty you have to remember that
Mine's a Hyundai i10 which I believe is the same underneath as the Kia. Having had Apple Car Play for a while, I'd hate to go without it -- how many of these have that as an option, and what does it cost?
The Kia Picanto is a clear winner!
Picanco with 7 warrant clearly wins
Very curious your thoughts Kia ceed/ ford fiesta/ Dacia Sandero stepaway? Which one overall the best ?
The Kia Picanto is a clear winner!!
KIA hands down
Some major things every reviewer forgets to include in their budjet car reviews are (1) Crash Resistance of Chassis, Not amount of airbags but the crumple zones, quality of metal used, thickness etc. (2) because they are budjet cars, most likely persons would be doing a bit of DIY and repair so how easy it is to do simple tasks like oil change, filter change, Sparkplugs etc.(3) does it come with a DVD screen or display with a rear view camera standard or how simple would it be to add. (4) How well do the factory headlamps show on the road at night in the city as well as lesser roads also is it easy to change a lightbulb in the headlamp or does the bumper have to be removed etc. These are the real deal items that buyers need to know. Just because they don't have a lot to spend on a vehicle does not mean that they should get screwed by only having to resort to the dealer for regular car maintainance etc Plus the world would be in a recession for a while following this current pandemic and most people would opt to do easy repair work themselves and they are looking to save money for the essentials like food.
Good test, helped me make my mind up and bought the Picanto. Anything that comes 2nd to a 'can't lose VW no matter' on 5th Gear is obviously the real best buy. The interior on the VW is laughably sparce!
Thank you, my son is delighted with his Picanto!
I am delighted with my Picanto. 29,000 fault free miles.
I drive a VW Golf and I reckon the Picanto has a nicer interior than the Up!. Clearly more features, more practical, and I’d say objectively the Kia’s a better car! Also VW discontinued the Up! in Australia due to poor sales, whereas the Picanto sells strongly over here
@@fivish you'll get many more. My 1st generation Picanto has got 250000 km (that's a quarter million) on the clock and it's still going strong for a car of that vintage. I just bought a new one to replace it.