I’ve watched this a bunch of times, but this is the first time I realized you’re driving through Wilsonville. I used to live there, then Canby, before moving to Idaho. Even bought my 2018 4Runner new at Wilsonville Toyota in 2017. Miss that area so much. ❤
AWESOME! Yup, mine came from Wilsonville Toyota, and I still live in that area. Two of my kids live in the Boise area, so it’s a favorite destination too. Happy trails 🙌
Thanks for a great vid. I’m going the same route in 2022. Thanks for showing how yours went. I really appreciate the channels you and your brother are doing, so helpful for novices like me. And it helps we share the same backyard (I live four minutes from the tire shop). What I mean by that is the terrain, trails, etc. are very relevant to me. Many thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Really good information and presentation! Enjoyed your video. You’ve gained some new friends who are excited to follow you along and see more content! -Tawnie & Wayne
Looks awesome! Great job! I agree with the author, the wider the width, the worse the stability and controllability. The greater the weight and, accordingly, the load on the bearings increases, the fuel consumption increases and the acceleration dynamics decreases. Personally, I prefer to increase the profile of the tire, for example setting 255/80/17.
Thx amigo, she’s coming together nicely. Trying to find the time to install the Southern Style Offroad hybrid bumper, 30” light bar, winch, and high clearance fender mod. Works, always in the way 😉😄. Looking forward to checking out your latest vid.
Love the ko2s. I have 60K on my ko2s 18’ 4runner. Stock size. They still have plenty of tread left. Thank you for the video as I will be looking at either 295/70 but I really like the taller 285/75.
285/75 r17 nice especially without having to change the front bumper. We recently went with a Hefty Fabworks front bumper and we fit 35x12.5r17. I know lots of people said that 34's and 35's you have to regear but with the right tire weight it's not to bad on power. We went with the Mickey Thompson MTZ P3's and they weight is not bad on them at all. Keep up the detailed work and videos.
I'm fairly new to learning how all of this works and I'm always looking for more input, but would not regearing and running 35s put extra stress on the transmission, especially on long drives? And is it that big of an issue even if it did? Thanks
@@mastrtonberry2 it's been done for years and it actually helps reduce the stress on everything due to the rotational torque it takes to turn the larger more aggressive tires. It does cause the motor and transmission to turn a little faster to create 1 revolution with the tire but that's how it helps build up the extra power to rotate them. Check out driving line on youtube he has a good video explaining regearing.
I went through 2 great sets of KO2's on my old FJ. They did great in everything except mud. Every tire has a weakness and mud is this one's. Easy to get 50k or more out of them if you rotate religiously. Lol. Agreed on Pink Floyd!!!
So true. Fortunately I have a two pet lift, so I’m able to easily and quickly rotate them myself. I’m going to take them in for ax rebalance though. 80k from a Tundra is amazing!
Thank you R M, like all rigs, she’s a work in progress. A couple big ticket items going on soon will really add a lot; SSO hybrid bumper with lightbar and winch, SSO high clearance front fender mod, and Method 703’s (likely in matte black).
I've been running 285/75r17 KO2s on my stock-suspension JKU for 4 years and 45,000 miles, and they still have plenty of tread left! I am blown away by these tires and they have taken me from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean, and from the heat of Death Valley to the blizzards of Montana. I begin to think about changing them, then they just prove their value season after season. Great tires!
Hey man, love the work you’re doing. Your rig is looking awesome. Was there a reason you went with a 285/75 over a 305/70? My wife’s 4Runner. Toyo 305/70r17s are sitting in the shop already mounted on method 701s, SPC UCAs, super tight cab mount chop and pinch weld are done, and did the high clearance cut. We’re ready to go but King gave me a 36 week ETA on our shocks though. Being patient is tough when you know the finished product will be so awesome.
I really appreciate the comment and compliment; our rigs are labors of love, right? The only difference between my 285 and your 305 is the width, yours being a full 12” and mine being 11.2”. I was concerned with how tight it would be next to my UCA’s (Ironman), but I don’t think you’ll have that with SPC’s tubular design. I’ll have to figure it out one way or another, she’ll be on true 35’s after re-gearing to 4.88’s next year. 👍🏻
Thank you Mark. This sounds like a “subscriber” pitch, but it’s not. Check out my Instagram (same name) and you’ll see the suspension in action. All the best on your project.
You guys rock. So i think you can fit 35's. Go for it. Also, where is your brother at? He makes you laugh from time to time. I wish I had a bro like that, handy and useful when needed. Great content...please keep it up.
The awning setup I have (Slumberjack) actually requires expanding poles, and that’s where I keep them. I made it myself out of PVC pipe, an end cap, and screw on closure. I painted it with a slightly textured fender well spray paint; it seems to be holding up well.
Thx Fredadd. No, not a fan of spacers. I think they’re likely ok if you don’t plan to Offroad hard. Glad you’re finding some inspiration here. I also find a lot of great ideas and inspiration on TH-cam. Welcome to the channel!
Thank you for the great video! I plan on going with 34” for my ORP . I have question regarding the alignment. Did you adjust the caste? If so to what ? I have the same iron man kit .
I made a custom bracket that mounted them to my highlift jack. I’ve since changed the location to my roof by replacing the stock crossbars with two made by Victory 4x4; Maxtrax mounts bolt directly to them.
Luis, It handles just fine, no issues there. The only time the transmission felt forced was on hills, on or off-road. That said, I put a lot of miles on it, both on and off-road, without issue.
Thanks for your great videos, I have installed same lift kit as well as same BMC and did viper cut, did you do any other trimming such as pinch hammer the weld or anything else in order to be able to fit 34s?
how tall does this make the 4runner overall? I don't want to hit the top of some parking garages here in Houston. Debating on 285/70 or 285/75 or 295/70 if possible
Andrew, my rig has a 3” lift and 285/75R17 tires. With just that, I could fit into any garage. My rooftop basket, however, makes it so I cannot fit into parking garage. The 295/70 is slightly shorter and slightly wider than the 285/75 (33.8 vs 33.3 and 11.2 vs 11.6). With just a body mount chop and no mud flaps, I have zero rubbing. Hope that info helps
I’m running 285 70 17 mud terrain tires, with 3” lift, viper cut, and my tires still rub when I turn sharp enough. I did cut some plastic out but still rubs!
@@aired-downoverland9239 my wheels do push them out a little, when I checked I only saw rubbing on a small section of plastic on backside of wheel well. I cut away the plastic which fixed it, now only when I turn sharp I notice rubbing. Assumed it was just the aggressive tires? Will have to look closer
Have you tested to see if you rub in the front when you turn in to a driveway at about 3/4 turn at 2-3 mph? I'm guessing that unless you are barely moving you will rub against the plastic where the mud flap used to be. At full turn you won't since you have the BMC. Curious.
Not that I’ve noticed, but I plan to do some full articulation and turning tests right before and after I change to a 8.5” wheel; I’ll be videoing and posting the before and after.
@@mikelamp8118 Funny thing, I am too. I suspect the new wheels will cause some rubbing up front, but we’ll see. I have three weeks wait for the wheels 🙄
Truck looks really good! Are those UCA’s adjustable? Oh and there are blackout kits available for those two chrome strips Toyota added as of 2020 or 21 up front on the grill either side of the sombrero!
@@aired-downoverland9239 www.ebay.com/itm/For-Toyota-4Runner-2020-ABS-Matt-Black-Front-Center-Grilles-Grille-Molding-Trims/274442692750?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5335841727&toolid=10001&customid=4ro1371059 Or just remove them, screwed in from behind I believe and plastidip or paint em. I plastidipped my front and rear lower valences and added a few coats of plastidip glossifier and it’s held up great s far!
Great question. I could drive it for years and do plenty of light off-roading without changing gears, however, I plan to re-gear to 4.88’s so I can confidently do more aggressive trails. I’ll be installing a front locker when I have the new gears installed (not a task I’ll be tackling).
Hi! Have you been able to check if you rub at all while fully articulating and at full lock? Really wondering if I should just stick with 285/70/17 or go up to 285/75/17. Thanks in advance!
@@aired-downoverland9239 Awesome. Thanks for the info! Also, how is your clearance with the upper control arms? Do you think if you went 295/70/17, you would rub the UCAs?
Do you have any data on your alignment? I’m have front rear wheel well rub but you seem to be clearing with ease. Could be my -10 offset but thinking it’s more to do with the alignment.. All ears from anyone else in the comments.
A -10 offset would definitely contribute. I first ran my 34’s on the stock 7.5” wheels, with no fender well trimming, just the 3” lift and BMC…no rubbing. When I switched to the 8.5” Method wheels I immediately had fender well rubbing.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Thanks for the reply. I'm hoping to eliminate most of the rub with some alignment adjustments and trimming where needed. Great videos btw. When you address your rubbing I would love to hear or see the process. TIA
I installed an Icon Stage 2, a BMC and BF Goodrich KO2’s 285/75/17 and have rubbing in the wheel well on the back side near the outer edge. I plan to trim the liner a couple of inches up from the bottom. Should I be having this rub?
Great comment OT, and an accurate observation. I actually filmed that but had a memory card go corrupt (lost ALL my dual battery install footage). I plan to shoot those angles again when I have the 8.5 x 17 wheels installed, since the offset is slightly different. Keep your fingers crossed for no rubs 🤞
@@Pb_Slinger Though it could vary based on where you live and the shop doing the work, my Nitro 4.88’s, ARB locker, plus all labor, is going to run around $4k…AND, it could be 3-6 months before I have all the parts. So frustrating…
With my set-up, zero rubbing at full articulation. Your tire selection will be 34.1 tall vs mine at 33.8, however, yours will be 10” wide vs mine at 11.2”. I will go 285/75 R17 every time; personal choice. 👍🏻🙌
My hope is that the slight offset in width vs height will still avoid rubbing. I’m also going to mount on stock wheels first and add spacers if needed. If you ever find yourself around someone with the same wheel and tire combo, lmk if you test fit them lol
I haven’t yet, but desperately need to as my camera is currently useless. I haven’t decided if I’ll tackle that one myself, but if I do, I’ll record the process. Thx for the comment
Thx. The only thing I don’t like about the stock wheels is they’re only 7.5 inch wide, so the tire sits about an inch inside the fender. Just an esthetic thing.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Ya i'm gonna tell myself it helps keep the beads on and rocks off the paint !!!!! i'm going 287 70 17 stock rims 3 in probably the ome bp51 kit
“Have to” is a subjective question. I drove mine on road, and mild Offroad, before I regeared without issue, though the speedo and shift points were off. I did not attempt any hard off-roading until I had regeared to 4.88’s. I also added a front locker when I did the gears.
There are many options, but all have an associated cost. I currently run the receiver hitch mounted one made by RIGd, which also has my camp table, Rotopax mount, and highlift Jack mount.
Im wanting to go with 34s i just cant make up my mind on 305/70/r17 or 285/75/r17 Will both of these work? I am running the icon stage 5 lift doing a bmc as well
The only difference is the width, the 305 is a full 12” wide, while the 285 is 11.2” wide. Based on expertise with my 5th gen, which has a BMC, inner fender liner trim, and front bumper high clearance trim, the 305 will likely have you chasing rubbing issues. Can you solve them? Probably, but it’s a question of whether or not you want to pound and seam pinch welds, trim or remove the lower fender trim piece. In the end, chose what you like. 👍🏻🙌
Yes, in 17x8.5 and zero offset. I filmed it months ago, then has a knee injury I’m just now recovering from. I actually started editing the video last Saturday. Just need some free time to bang it out. They fit perfectly.
Will do. Once I do the Southern Style Offroad bumper and high clearance fender chop (next weekend) I’m confident it won’t even come close to rubbing…but I’ll for sure video it.
@@aired-downoverland9239 lol I bought them for that reason though so I can’t complain. They fit nicer in my 3rd gen. My brother in law has a leveling kit in his 5th gen trd pro and fits true 34” toyo mt without a BMC and stock UCA. I was surprised it fit.
@@aired-downoverland9239 on my BMC. I think I need to go get ANOTHER alignment have them shove the tires forward more, max limit. I get rubbing during up travel while turning. Was thinking about going to a different BMC type.
When I bought new 4runner trd off road with big tires. I have an issue when I drive on the highway. I hear a little noice. It's normal. 4Runner good for off roading not on regular road.
Hey man.. saw your latest video, I hope you fully recover soon. Take care of your self. I had few questions regarding this particular video. - did you have any rubbing on the front fenders? I notice you did not have the high clearance cut on this video - on your newer video any reason why you changed out the stock trail rims to aftermarket? - when you installed winch bumper and winch did it cause a rake and did it cause more rubbing on your 34”? - Currently , do you still have 34” on the runner? If so any prolonged issues having the 34” - any updated or further modifications made to accommodate the 34”? Still just the BMC, high clearance and suspension?
No rubbing early or later; still running the same tires since I only have 29k miles on my 2021. I only drive it for fun. No rake as the hybrid bumpers are light, even with the winch, plus most aftermarket coilovers have pre-load adjustment. As for the recovery, it’s going really well, and I’m just grateful to be alive. 👍🏻👍🏻
It’s the Ironman Foam Cell Pro. I had planned on upgrading to King or Fox, however, the on and off-road performance has been great, so no plans to change.
@@aired-downoverland9239 yep I’m also on a 2” rear spring and it sags a bit when I’m fully loaded for a camping trip. Do you have any issues with rubbing when flexed out?
Tim, not so far, not a single tranny code has been thrown. It’s 97 today where I live and still no codes, even on hills. I haven’t done any hardcore trails, so there is more testing to do. I’ll be installing 4.88 gears sometime this year.
That’s good to hear. I’ll be starting my bmc and lift in a week or so, I’m expecting my suspension lift to show up around the 6th. I found your videos very informative and well done. I’ll be doing a re-gear to 4.88’s as well before I jump to 35’s
Thank you. I had some computer problems that got me frustrated. I have footage for the hybrid front bumper install and high fender clearance chop, I just need to edit it. I may do that here soon.
@@aired-downoverland9239 I know it can be overwhelming and frustrating with editing, comments , subscribers and other issues that come along to the daily workloads. I ordered the stage 3 foam cell but will only be adding 33 in tires since I do a lot of towing also. Wish you the best !
It doesn’t bounce, but like all swing-out tire carriers, it moves a little. My brother has a full CBI rear bumper with a tire swing out; my RIGd moves no more than his. I can tell you it is very well built and very solid.
@@benitoperez4883 Make sure you tighten the set screw to the required torque, if you haven’t already. It will move a little, but not enough to worry about👍🏻
Matthew, the shift points are off a little, as compared to optimal. As a daily street and light Offroader it would be ok. If, however, you plan on some more aggressive offroading, re-gearing is advisable. I’ll be going with 4.88’s later this month, and a front air locker.
I haven’t had a single failure, and I’m not being gentle with it. I did some rock crawling (4Runner version) this past weekend and was yet again surprised at the capability. Note that I also have 4.88 gears and dual lockers.
@@aired-downoverland9239 nice! I’m going to be adding some “35’s” soon. I have 3.5 inch of lift with the iron man control arms already. I’ll be doing all the cutting/trimming, next will be regearing and a tune!
Yes, I actually filmed the removal of the front fascia, plus all the trimming to fit a Southern Style Offroad bumper + winch, and did the high clearance fender chop.
@@ndover3505 Absolutely. I included the detailed specs at the end of the video to ensure those who were interested in specifics would have them available.
@@aired-downoverland9239 for some strange reason tires sized in inches are always undersized. i just got some 255-85-16 toyo MTs to avoid the cab mount chop and they have a 106" circumference. Unfortunately a CMC wont pass inspection here.
When I say I have no rubbing I mean no rubbing. My suspension has been fully compressed with wheels turned, straight, forward, reverse…No rubbing, at all.
I’ve watched this a bunch of times, but this is the first time I realized you’re driving through Wilsonville. I used to live there, then Canby, before moving to Idaho. Even bought my 2018 4Runner new at Wilsonville Toyota in 2017. Miss that area so much. ❤
AWESOME! Yup, mine came from Wilsonville Toyota, and I still live in that area. Two of my kids live in the Boise area, so it’s a favorite destination too. Happy trails 🙌
Thanks for a great vid. I’m going the same route in 2022. Thanks for showing how yours went. I really appreciate the channels you and your brother are doing, so helpful for novices like me. And it helps we share the same backyard (I live four minutes from the tire shop). What I mean by that is the terrain, trails, etc. are very relevant to me. Many thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experiences.
Very happy you’re enjoying it Dan, it’s a true labor of love.
Nice job with the lift and body mount chop to get to ready for 34s. They look great and the clearance/traction will be a nice add. Great video !
Thank you, it has been an extremely fun project thus far. More to come
I’ve really been enjoying your build process and channel so far, thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the input, I appreciate it. As soon as I replace my malfunctioning camera, I’ll be adding more.
Really good information and presentation! Enjoyed your video. You’ve gained some new friends who are excited to follow you along and see more content! -Tawnie & Wayne
Welcome to you both, very happy to have you along for the ride.
Thx for the video, it was very helpful with me deciding on this tire size for my 5th gen 4Runner.
Great, glad it helped. I have been nothing but happy with the performance and no rubbing.
Looks awesome! Great job!
I agree with the author, the wider the width, the worse the stability and controllability. The greater the weight and, accordingly, the load on the bearings increases, the fuel consumption increases and the acceleration dynamics decreases. Personally, I prefer to increase the profile of the tire, for example setting 255/80/17.
I appreciate the comment.
Great suspension choice! Foam Cell Pro for the win.
A well thought out, presented video. I especially liked the beginning showing the two different tire sizes up to the wheel well. Sub’d
Thank you Dave. It continues to be a fun project
Love my 34" BFG KM3s!!! Yours looks great!
Thx! I just subscribed to your channel and will look forward to checking out you rig after work today.
Great looking tires, that clearance is gonna be clutch! Another nicely done video 🤙
Thx amigo, she’s coming together nicely. Trying to find the time to install the Southern Style Offroad hybrid bumper, 30” light bar, winch, and high clearance fender mod. Works, always in the way 😉😄. Looking forward to checking out your latest vid.
@@aired-downoverland9239 ain't that the thing about work?...but it pays for all the mods 😜
Love the ko2s. I have 60K on my ko2s 18’ 4runner. Stock size. They still have plenty of tread left. Thank you for the video as I will be looking at either 295/70 but I really like the taller 285/75.
Glad the video provided some info for you. And I agree, the K02’s are awesome!
285/75 r17 nice especially without having to change the front bumper. We recently went with a Hefty Fabworks front bumper and we fit 35x12.5r17. I know lots of people said that 34's and 35's you have to regear but with the right tire weight it's not to bad on power. We went with the Mickey Thompson MTZ P3's and they weight is not bad on them at all. Keep up the detailed work and videos.
I'm fairly new to learning how all of this works and I'm always looking for more input, but would not regearing and running 35s put extra stress on the transmission, especially on long drives? And is it that big of an issue even if it did?
Thanks
@@mastrtonberry2 it's been done for years and it actually helps reduce the stress on everything due to the rotational torque it takes to turn the larger more aggressive tires. It does cause the motor and transmission to turn a little faster to create 1 revolution with the tire but that's how it helps build up the extra power to rotate them. Check out driving line on youtube he has a good video explaining regearing.
I went through 2 great sets of KO2's on my old FJ. They did great in everything except mud. Every tire has a weakness and mud is this one's. Easy to get 50k or more out of them if you rotate religiously. Lol. Agreed on Pink Floyd!!!
Totally agree, especially on the Pink Floyd 😄
I love my KO2! I got 80K out of them on my Tundra! They are not noisy! Great Tire! Make sure your rotate them regularly - super important on these!!
So true. Fortunately I have a two pet lift, so I’m able to easily and quickly rotate them myself. I’m going to take them in for ax rebalance though. 80k from a Tundra is amazing!
Looks great man. I’ve just purchased a full suspension kit for my fourth gen and looking to get tires in the upcoming future.
Outstanding. They spendy, but my experience has been if you ask for a discount they’ll find a way to save you some money. Enjoy your build!
Very nice! It looks almost as good as your brothers!
Looks excellent. Nice job.
Thank you R M, like all rigs, she’s a work in progress. A couple big ticket items going on soon will really add a lot; SSO hybrid bumper with lightbar and winch, SSO high clearance front fender mod, and Method 703’s (likely in matte black).
I've been running 285/75r17 KO2s on my stock-suspension JKU for 4 years and 45,000 miles, and they still have plenty of tread left! I am blown away by these tires and they have taken me from the Atlantic to the Pacific Ocean, and from the heat of Death Valley to the blizzards of Montana. I begin to think about changing them, then they just prove their value season after season. Great tires!
It’s a hard tire to beat, all things considered
Haha, go ahead and rub it in to us Toyota guys, that you can run a real tire with no mods lol.
sick 4runner love your vids
Thank you Kaina
Thanks Steve for your and Jon's vids. Curious, why did you opt for the 285x75 versus 285x70 tire size? THANKS
Thanks Jim. I wanted to go as close to 34’s as possible and the 75 is 1.1 inches taller than the 70.
Hey man, love the work you’re doing. Your rig is looking awesome. Was there a reason you went with a 285/75 over a 305/70? My wife’s 4Runner. Toyo 305/70r17s are sitting in the shop already mounted on method 701s, SPC UCAs, super tight cab mount chop and pinch weld are done, and did the high clearance cut. We’re ready to go but King gave me a 36 week ETA on our shocks though. Being patient is tough when you know the finished product will be so awesome.
I really appreciate the comment and compliment; our rigs are labors of love, right? The only difference between my 285 and your 305 is the width, yours being a full 12” and mine being 11.2”. I was concerned with how tight it would be next to my UCA’s (Ironman), but I don’t think you’ll have that with SPC’s tubular design. I’ll have to figure it out one way or another, she’ll be on true 35’s after re-gearing to 4.88’s next year. 👍🏻
I heard the 285/75/17 is a maxed out width measurement for a 7in width wheel.
I have the exact same lift kit ready to be installed as soon as I make a tire decision and get the BMC done! This was a great video!
Thank you Mark. This sounds like a “subscriber” pitch, but it’s not. Check out my Instagram (same name) and you’ll see the suspension in action. All the best on your project.
@@aired-downoverland9239 followed! @elemental_t4r
You guys rock. So i think you can fit 35's. Go for it. Also, where is your brother at? He makes you laugh from time to time. I wish I had a bro like that, handy and useful when needed. Great content...please keep it up.
Thank you Lucas!
Wondering what the large tube next to your maxxtrax holds and where you got it. Thx. Great rig!
The awning setup I have (Slumberjack) actually requires expanding poles, and that’s where I keep them. I made it myself out of PVC pipe, an end cap, and screw on closure. I painted it with a slightly textured fender well spray paint; it seems to be holding up well.
No wheel Spacers eh?
BTW: You have excellent documented videos that inspire me greatly! Thank You!
Thx Fredadd. No, not a fan of spacers. I think they’re likely ok if you don’t plan to Offroad hard. Glad you’re finding some inspiration here. I also find a lot of great ideas and inspiration on TH-cam. Welcome to the channel!
All spacers will do is allow your tires to throw rocks all down the side of your truck. Good choice going without.
@@tylerwest3820 thx Tyler
Thank you for the great video! I plan on going with 34” for my ORP . I have question regarding the alignment. Did you adjust the caste? If so to what ? I have the same iron man kit .
I had a professional four wheel alignment done; I’m probably due for another with all the off-roading.
Great work! Would you think you can get away with running 1.25” spacers as well?
Probably, I’m just not a fan of spacers. I have no stats or personal experience, they just don’t seem to be the right way to move wheels out imo.
Looks great. How did you mount the traction boards on the tire carrier
I made a custom bracket that mounted them to my highlift jack. I’ve since changed the location to my roof by replacing the stock crossbars with two made by Victory 4x4; Maxtrax mounts bolt directly to them.
those are the best tires in my opinion 😎👍🏽
I couldn’t agree more Alberto
Nicer looking compared to other AT tires but definitely not the best. Wild peaks and open country at3 out perform KO2s on wet roads and snow.
@@inyermouthbaybeh Good info Phil. Funny, but the stock tires actually kicked butt in the snow during a winter adventure.
I recognize that tire shop - hiya neighbor!
Good guys over there
Hello, I have another question, how does it handle with 285/75/17 tires? Does the transmission feel forced? In your opinion it needs re-gear? Thanks
Luis, It handles just fine, no issues there. The only time the transmission felt forced was on hills, on or off-road. That said, I put a lot of miles on it, both on and off-road, without issue.
bfg ATs nice choice for non mud 👍
Bad ass T4R!did you had rear view camera relocated because of the RIGID winch tire mount? Thanks
Thank you. Yes, I added the Anytime rear and front camera system; love it!
I wonder if these would still fit with a -25offset wheel or if anyone has tried
I have no idea?
Thanks for your great videos, I have installed same lift kit as well as same BMC and did viper cut, did you do any other trimming such as pinch hammer the weld or anything else in order to be able to fit 34s?
No additional cutting or hammering, and I have zero rub regardless of articulation. 👍🏻
@@aired-downoverland9239 appreciate the information
how tall does this make the 4runner overall? I don't want to hit the top of some parking garages here in Houston. Debating on 285/70 or 285/75 or 295/70 if possible
Andrew, my rig has a 3” lift and 285/75R17 tires. With just that, I could fit into any garage. My rooftop basket, however, makes it so I cannot fit into parking garage. The 295/70 is slightly shorter and slightly wider than the 285/75 (33.8 vs 33.3 and 11.2 vs 11.6). With just a body mount chop and no mud flaps, I have zero rubbing. Hope that info helps
I’m running 285 70 17 mud terrain tires, with 3” lift, viper cut, and my tires still rub when I turn sharp enough. I did cut some plastic out but still rubs!
Where is it rubbing? Are you running wheels with a lot of offset (pushing the tires out, away from the body)?
@@aired-downoverland9239 my wheels do push them out a little, when I checked I only saw rubbing on a small section of plastic on backside of wheel well. I cut away the plastic which fixed it, now only when I turn sharp I notice rubbing. Assumed it was just the aggressive tires? Will have to look closer
Have you tested to see if you rub in the front when you turn in to a driveway at about 3/4 turn at 2-3 mph? I'm guessing that unless you are barely moving you will rub against the plastic where the mud flap used to be. At full turn you won't since you have the BMC. Curious.
Not that I’ve noticed, but I plan to do some full articulation and turning tests right before and after I change to a 8.5” wheel; I’ll be videoing and posting the before and after.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Cool. I'll be looking forward to what you find.
@@mikelamp8118 Funny thing, I am too. I suspect the new wheels will cause some rubbing up front, but we’ll see. I have three weeks wait for the wheels 🙄
Truck looks really good! Are those UCA’s adjustable? Oh and there are blackout kits available for those two chrome strips Toyota added as of 2020 or 21 up front on the grill either side of the sombrero!
Thx Tim. The UCA’s aren’t adjustable but do give 4 degrees of caster correction. Any idea where I can get those black out strips, I want’m!
@@aired-downoverland9239 www.ebay.com/itm/For-Toyota-4Runner-2020-ABS-Matt-Black-Front-Center-Grilles-Grille-Molding-Trims/274442692750?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5335841727&toolid=10001&customid=4ro1371059
Or just remove them, screwed in from behind I believe and plastidip or paint em. I plastidipped my front and rear lower valences and added a few coats of plastidip glossifier and it’s held up great s far!
@@timbrown7980 thank you Tim!
Awesome 4runner. You should join the 4runners of Oregon group on Facebook😎
Thank you, I’ll seriously consider it
very nice 4runner sir
Thank you!
one more question, did you have to cut the bumper in advance, thanks
No, I did that purely to increase approach angle.
Music video ?
NEVER apologize for preferring Pink Floyd over just about anyone (save for Led Zep)! Thanks for the vid and the music....
Solid comment; and I agree on getting the Led out 👍🏻
Great video 👍🏻. I do have 1 question. Do you need to re-gear with 34s?
Great question. I could drive it for years and do plenty of light off-roading without changing gears, however, I plan to re-gear to 4.88’s so I can confidently do more aggressive trails. I’ll be installing a front locker when I have the new gears installed (not a task I’ll be tackling).
@@aired-downoverland9239 thank you. Hope to see that video.
Hi! Have you been able to check if you rub at all while fully articulating and at full lock? Really wondering if I should just stick with 285/70/17 or go up to 285/75/17. Thanks in advance!
I have absolutely zero rubbing at full articulation and lock to lock. That’s with a 3” lift and body mount chop.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Awesome. Thanks for the info! Also, how is your clearance with the upper control arms? Do you think if you went 295/70/17, you would rub the UCAs?
@@brutoforce4405 The 295/70/17 is 11.6 wide vs my 285/75/17 at 11.2, so .4 inches. I believe I could fit them without hitting the UCA
Do you have any data on your alignment? I’m have front rear wheel well rub but you seem to be clearing with ease. Could be my -10 offset but thinking it’s more to do with the alignment.. All ears from anyone else in the comments.
A -10 offset would definitely contribute. I first ran my 34’s on the stock 7.5” wheels, with no fender well trimming, just the 3” lift and BMC…no rubbing. When I switched to the 8.5” Method wheels I immediately had fender well rubbing.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Thanks for the reply. I'm hoping to eliminate most of the rub with some alignment adjustments and trimming where needed. Great videos btw. When you address your rubbing I would love to hear or see the process. TIA
I installed an Icon Stage 2, a BMC and BF Goodrich KO2’s 285/75/17 and have rubbing in the wheel well on the back side near the outer edge. I plan to trim the liner a couple of inches up from the bottom. Should I be having this rub?
I had none, do you have a wheel offset pushing your wheels out?
@@aired-downoverland9239 stock wheels but I did add spacers
Yeah, spacers can push things out far enough to cause rubbing.
"No debate"? Wouldn't you have to jack a front wheel up to the bumpstop and then turn full left and right?
Great comment OT, and an accurate observation. I actually filmed that but had a memory card go corrupt (lost ALL my dual battery install footage). I plan to shoot those angles again when I have the 8.5 x 17 wheels installed, since the offset is slightly different. Keep your fingers crossed for no rubs 🤞
Do you think these same tires would fit with a 2-2.5" lift and a BMC?
I believe they would
I’m going to put 34’s on at some point but not before I re-gear the diffs.
Good plan Ben. I’ll be doing it soon, but it sure isn’t a cheap mod.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Nothing you’ve done has been cheap! (Sorry, just noticed your reply now)
@@Pb_Slinger Though it could vary based on where you live and the shop doing the work, my Nitro 4.88’s, ARB locker, plus all labor, is going to run around $4k…AND, it could be 3-6 months before I have all the parts. So frustrating…
Looks awesome, nice rig, wonder if you upgraded gears, I would advise it.
I did upgrade to 4:88’s and air locker; no regrets
what made you decide to go with 285/75 vs 295/70?
33.8 vs 33.3 tall and 11.2 vs 11.6 wide; I wanted the height but not the width, I didn’t want any rubbing.
No rubbing anywhere during full articulation ? I’m thinking of doing all the same for my runner, except going with a 255/85/r17 baja boss.
With my set-up, zero rubbing at full articulation. Your tire selection will be 34.1 tall vs mine at 33.8, however, yours will be 10” wide vs mine at 11.2”. I will go 285/75 R17 every time; personal choice. 👍🏻🙌
My hope is that the slight offset in width vs height will still avoid rubbing. I’m also going to mount on stock wheels first and add spacers if needed. If you ever find yourself around someone with the same wheel and tire combo, lmk if you test fit them lol
Totally off topic from 34 tires. But did you relocate your back up camera? If so can you show that process. Thanks
I haven’t yet, but desperately need to as my camera is currently useless. I haven’t decided if I’ll tackle that one myself, but if I do, I’ll record the process. Thx for the comment
@@aired-downoverland9239 yess boss! Keep us update, if you ever do it yourself!
@@RCGJR_ will do
cool glad you didn't have to change the rims.
Thx. The only thing I don’t like about the stock wheels is they’re only 7.5 inch wide, so the tire sits about an inch inside the fender. Just an esthetic thing.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Ya i'm gonna tell myself it helps keep the beads on and rocks off the paint !!!!! i'm going 287 70 17 stock rims 3 in probably the ome bp51 kit
@@imzackson Awesome 👍🏻
You're around my old stomping grounds of Day road
Your smart....keep it up!
Thank you. Talking a short break due to a new job, but have more videos coming.
Did you have to run spacers? I just ordered some 285 75 17 toyo at3 with those same trd stock rims.
No spacers Peter, but the tire was very close to my Ironman UCA. That problem was solved when I moved to the Method wheels.
@@aired-downoverland9239 thank you.
Will you have to regear the transmission to accommodate 34s or is this not an issue?
“Have to” is a subjective question. I drove mine on road, and mild Offroad, before I regeared without issue, though the speedo and shift points were off. I did not attempt any hard off-roading until I had regeared to 4.88’s. I also added a front locker when I did the gears.
Just did this! Now how do I fit my spare tire?
There are many options, but all have an associated cost. I currently run the receiver hitch mounted one made by RIGd, which also has my camp table, Rotopax mount, and highlift Jack mount.
Im wanting to go with 34s i just cant make up my mind on 305/70/r17 or 285/75/r17
Will both of these work?
I am running the icon stage 5 lift doing a bmc as well
The only difference is the width, the 305 is a full 12” wide, while the 285 is 11.2” wide. Based on expertise with my 5th gen, which has a BMC, inner fender liner trim, and front bumper high clearance trim, the 305 will likely have you chasing rubbing issues. Can you solve them? Probably, but it’s a question of whether or not you want to pound and seam pinch welds, trim or remove the lower fender trim piece. In the end, chose what you like. 👍🏻🙌
Thanks for the info.
Also love the videos they are definitely helpful.
Thank you for supporting the channel
Did methods ever make it on the vehicle? Considering a similar build.
Yes, in 17x8.5 and zero offset. I filmed it months ago, then has a knee injury I’m just now recovering from. I actually started editing the video last Saturday. Just need some free time to bang it out. They fit perfectly.
@@aired-downoverland9239 very cool. Excited to see! Hope you're feeling better!
Looks great though!
Thank you. More to come, I’ve had to pause as my camera has a technical glitch I need to figure out…or replace 🙄
Let me know the first time you take it off road and flex it out to see if it rubs then. It looks fantastic.
Will do. Once I do the Southern Style Offroad bumper and high clearance fender chop (next weekend) I’m confident it won’t even come close to rubbing…but I’ll for sure video it.
do you get vibration on the steering wheel?
Never. If you do it’s likely an alignment or tire balancing issue.
What spare tire hitch mount is that
It’s made by RIGd
I have 285/75/17 in KM3's and they measure 32.5" :). BFGs definitely run smaller than other manufacturers.
Don’t you hate when manufacturers exaggerate their numbers. 🙄
@@aired-downoverland9239 lol I bought them for that reason though so I can’t complain. They fit nicer in my 3rd gen. My brother in law has a leveling kit in his 5th gen trd pro and fits true 34” toyo mt without a BMC and stock UCA. I was surprised it fit.
@@PhoRunner Nice! I’m super curious what the 6th gen will look like. Toyota has done a great job so far…
@@aired-downoverland9239 hopefully it comes out soon!! I’m ready to splurge lol
@@PhoRunner im not ready for the 6th gen, keep it to yaselves lmao
Do you have your alignment numbers (I imagine every truck is different...) I still have rubbing.
I’d have to try and find them. Where do you have rubbing?
@@aired-downoverland9239 on my BMC. I think I need to go get ANOTHER alignment have them shove the tires forward more, max limit. I get rubbing during up travel while turning. Was thinking about going to a different BMC type.
@@BigBluePile Go to a shop The specializes in lifted vehicle alignment.
When I bought new 4runner trd off road with big tires. I have an issue when I drive on the highway. I hear a little noice. It's normal. 4Runner good for off roading not on regular road.
So far mine is running well on the freeway. The K02’s do make a little noise, but not too much.
4runner is amazing on regular road wtf are you talking about lmao.
Drive a soft top jeep first before you complain about 4runner tire noise.
@@himboslice_ legendary comment ^^
Did you do a body lift? Looks great.
No, Just a suspension lift and 34’s. Thx for the compliment. 🙌
Hey man.. saw your latest video, I hope you fully recover soon. Take care of your self.
I had few questions regarding this particular video.
- did you have any rubbing on the front fenders? I notice you did not have the high clearance cut on this video
- on your newer video any reason why you changed out the stock trail rims to aftermarket?
- when you installed winch bumper and winch did it cause a rake and did it cause more rubbing on your 34”?
- Currently , do you still have 34” on the runner? If so any prolonged issues having the 34”
- any updated or further modifications made to accommodate the 34”?
Still just the BMC, high clearance and suspension?
No rubbing early or later; still running the same tires since I only have 29k miles on my 2021. I only drive it for fun. No rake as the hybrid bumpers are light, even with the winch, plus most aftermarket coilovers have pre-load adjustment. As for the recovery, it’s going really well, and I’m just grateful to be alive. 👍🏻👍🏻
With tires and everything completely added on, regearing in the future? Or you think it’s not necessary?
I’d highly recommend regearing with larger tires, and do lockers while you’re in there, they’re game changers
That's a good look. Perfect size. What susp/lift setup do you have?
It’s the Ironman Foam Cell Pro. I had planned on upgrading to King or Fox, however, the on and off-road performance has been great, so no plans to change.
@@aired-downoverland9239 Awesome thanks. About 3 or 4 inches or so?
@@chadgraber4575 3” in front, 2” in back…just right 👍🏻👍🏻
hey there! are you on a 2" rear spring or 3" rear spring?
2” in the rear. It’s fine unloader, but when I’m fully loaded for a trip, it’s a bit under-sprung.
@@aired-downoverland9239 yep I’m also on a 2” rear spring and it sags a bit when I’m fully loaded for a camping trip. Do you have any issues with rubbing when flexed out?
@@Jvson.t4r No rubbing whatsoever.
Did you have any issues with the TSS sensor?
Tim, not so far, not a single tranny code has been thrown. It’s 97 today where I live and still no codes, even on hills. I haven’t done any hardcore trails, so there is more testing to do. I’ll be installing 4.88 gears sometime this year.
That’s good to hear. I’ll be starting my bmc and lift in a week or so, I’m expecting my suspension lift to show up around the 6th.
I found your videos very informative and well done. I’ll be doing a re-gear to 4.88’s as well before I jump to 35’s
@@4Advntr Enjoy the build, it’s at least half the fun 👍🏻
Can u do it with no lift?
Yes, but not without BMC and front fender trimming.
So are the tyres 34inch?
The convention puts them at exactly 33.8 inches
Awesome instrumental videos , you haven’t published any new ones for awhile hope all is well.
Thank you. I had some computer problems that got me frustrated. I have footage for the hybrid front bumper install and high fender clearance chop, I just need to edit it. I may do that here soon.
@@aired-downoverland9239 I know it can be overwhelming and frustrating with editing, comments , subscribers and other issues that come along to the daily workloads. I ordered the stage 3 foam cell but will only be adding 33 in tires since I do a lot of towing also. Wish you the best !
Did they recommend that you re gear on 34s?
I chose to regear to 4.88’s when I added the front locker. My torque, shift points, and speed-O are all in a better spot.
@@aired-downoverland9239 thanks!
👍🏻👍🏻
Hey ... more content please !
Coming. A full time job is getting in the way of my fun…
So just curious whats your mpg now?
Currently averaging 14.5 (mixed city/freeway)
Yeah I’m at 13.5 with similar set up but on 33 so I was just curious, thanks for the quick reply!
@@Matt-tf1wz I’m hoping re-gearing to 4.88’s helps a little. Probably wishful thinking…
I’m sure it will, seems like a lot of people need to re gear after going above a 33. But again it’s all personal preference.
Those must be 295 bfgs if there 33.8 tall.
I have the 285s on my trail with method wheels and no body chop.
No, they’re 285’s, but they are 75, not 70’s. Glad to hear you’re aren’t rubbing. Rubbing is racing, but only in NASCAR 😄
BTW, check out tiresize.com, I tripped into it and found the info pretty cool.
Does your tire carrier bounce at all ?
It doesn’t bounce, but like all swing-out tire carriers, it moves a little. My brother has a full CBI rear bumper with a tire swing out; my RIGd moves no more than his. I can tell you it is very well built and very solid.
@@aired-downoverland9239 ok thank you. I just got the rigd and seems mine bounces some on certain parts of the road
@@benitoperez4883 Make sure you tighten the set screw to the required torque, if you haven’t already. It will move a little, but not enough to worry about👍🏻
@@aired-downoverland9239 sorry. One more question. On your tire mount where do you have yours at? Top bottom middle
@@benitoperez4883 Top. I wanted it as much out of the way as possible, from a departure angle perspective.
Hey was wondering how to trans is handling the 34s? Do you think regearing is necessary?
Matthew, the shift points are off a little, as compared to optimal. As a daily street and light Offroader it would be ok. If, however, you plan on some more aggressive offroading, re-gearing is advisable. I’ll be going with 4.88’s later this month, and a front air locker.
@@aired-downoverland9239 very light off road for me. What about road trips? Are the off shift points bad enough for that?
@@BronzeGamer1000 You’ll struggle in steep areas, you’ll be fine in the flats
I never knew Louis CK was a 4Runner enthusiast 😉
😂
Wait til you get -38 off set wheels with them 34 look way more aggressive and you gonna rub
No offset for me, my wheels are a 0 offset, so no rubbing…yet 👍🏻
How’s it all holding up
I haven’t had a single failure, and I’m not being gentle with it. I did some rock crawling (4Runner version) this past weekend and was yet again surprised at the capability. Note that I also have 4.88 gears and dual lockers.
@@aired-downoverland9239 nice! I’m going to be adding some “35’s” soon. I have 3.5 inch of lift with the iron man control arms already. I’ll be doing all the cutting/trimming, next will be regearing and a tune!
@@dustinsalisbury4383 I’ll look forward to seeing the progress! 👍🏻👍🏻
Be aware that BFG's run a tad small compared to other brands that run true. A 34" BFG might be a lot closer to 33".
I’ll measure it and see where it sits. Thx
What’s your mpg?
Right in between horrible and ridiculous. Averaging 14, however, 4.88 gears go in on the 21st of Feb, so I’m hoping to be back in the 16-18 mpg range.
Is there going to be a video on the 4.88 gears? @@aired-downoverland9239
@@luciosolano9382 The gears are the one thing I didn’t do myself, and the shop that did the work wouldn’t let me film it.
@@aired-downoverland9239
How much have the gears help with fuel?
@@luciosolano9382 Too early to tell. I picked it up yesterday and the gears have a 500 mile break in period. I’m hoping it helps, even a little.
Any trimming to the front bumper?
Yes, I actually filmed the removal of the front fascia, plus all the trimming to fit a Southern Style Offroad bumper + winch, and did the high clearance fender chop.
34's are good enough. Heavier tires will start annoying your suspension mechanism for sure.
Very true
295 70 17?
285/75R17
@@aired-downoverland9239 important to specify, 285/75R17 is closer to a 34" tire than the 34x10.5 that BFG sells
@@ndover3505 Absolutely. I included the detailed specs at the end of the video to ensure those who were interested in specifics would have them available.
@@aired-downoverland9239 for some strange reason tires sized in inches are always undersized. i just got some 255-85-16 toyo MTs to avoid the cab mount chop and they have a 106" circumference. Unfortunately a CMC wont pass inspection here.
@@ndover3505 That’s unfortunate. The body mount chop, done correctly, really has zero impact on the safety of the vehicle.
But this is useless for off road.. U will rub 100% of the time.. Or is it a MALL build?
34’s have a larger contact patch and they never rub Offroad. Go to my Instagram and you’ll see vid/pics proving this.
K02 34x10.5r17, just sayin'
To each their own, right. Getting them dirty is where it's at.
Supercharger!
If they weren’t so darn expensive it would be tempting…
Give me Pink Floyd any day.
Right!!!
It just sucks that bfg is the smallest tire. Literally all other brands in the same size are taller.
Yeah, that’s a common complaint about them. I’d love to understand their measurement process 🙄
you're measuring at no compression, cycle that suspension and you'll be rubbing.
When I say I have no rubbing I mean no rubbing. My suspension has been fully compressed with wheels turned, straight, forward, reverse…No rubbing, at all.
Don't buy 9'' rims and try this......ask me how I know! 8.5 is it.
I went with 8.5’s as well
I'm glad I read this. I was about to order 9" rims lol. Good stuff.
@@aired-downoverland9239have you ever posted a video with you method 8.5 vs stock wheels comparison / review?