Good videos by this old school boy. Normal guys great videos. I’m running a 33x12.5 17baja boss with -10 offset. Bmc old man emu uppers and have no worries in the front only. BMC is a must. I got a 2” lift as well but no worries running the wide tire. Love the look and had little poke.
LoL, Perfect duo for infotainment. Lot of valuable info 100%. Since I like to keep my mud flaps on I think my option is smaller size 285/70R17 on stock wheels. I have a big reason to use the word "smaller size" 285/70R17 is because I think I won't be able to have my mud flaps with 285/70R17 33inches or bigger than 33inches. Hence 32.76in 285/70R17 would fit my needs. Right now I have Falken Wildpeak AT3W SL (51lbs) and Toyo Open Country AT3 SL (47lbs). In the past I had 32.8 BFG KO2 C on my TRD ORP. Oh and here in CO my tires need to have 3PMSF rating, so not all ATs in my option list and non of RTs and MTs available for my needs.
I love that you’re sticking to what you need to suit your use. Too many people get caught up in the chase for ever larger tires, without a need. Also agree the 3 peak rated tires are a solid choice for CO, and any other states that gets into the freeze zone. Thx for watching 🙌
Totally agree Clayton! Would I love to fit 35’s or 37’s? Heck yeah, but the Toyota IFS just wasn’t built to handle the load. Thanks for the channel support 🙌
Love that you're putting out the technical content. I'm a huge fan of John's channel and yours is a great compliment to his. I'm enjoying learning more about both of your setups. Keep it up!
Great content. Been riding same trails with 31, 32, 33 and 35 tires on almost same rigs.. all I can say you can always get through! The only difference is amount of shivers you get from smaller tires, you have to think way ahead with those :)
I run Kenda 35x10.50r17 with -12 offset wheel. With SuperPro quad offset LCA bushing and SPC UCA in E setting. Still get 3.5° of caster and zero rub. Minimal BMC. Best for me because it's affordable and perform really good in very wide variation of terrain including snow. Relatively quiet on the road too.
Can confirm I run this tire size (285/75/17) on my 5th gen 4Runner. I run with my buddy’s jeep in 35’s and I can go everywhere he goes. Also if you go with the Yokohama Geolander MT G003 it’s actually the biggest size tire in this size being 34.1” tall. A true 34. Also I didn’t have to do a body mount chop or cut anything. I’m running this on my 2019 Trd pro which has +6 off set wheels and a precut bumper from the factory. Repeat no rubbing with this set up since the positive offset wheel
Steve and John, thank you for another great video! Possibly the best video comparing the two sizes for daily and overland use. Keep the videos coming!! Cheers from North Idaho🌲
I agree with this video. BFGs do run significantly smaller and a set of extended wheel studs and a .5 - .75" hub centric spacer could fix some rub with the 315s. 285/75/17 is a goldilocks tire for these. An SPC upper control arm with some forward caster would help get that tire away from the body side as well.
Great job guy's, real funny stuff between two brother's! I can relate to all that joking around about who's smarter, my brother and I do that all the time. But most importantly this was very informative as I'm running 33's but want to bump it up to 34's, once again great job...
Nice video covering the step up difference between the two. My game plan for a while now has been to go 285/75r17 from my 285/70r17 tires and I think it should be an easy upgrade.
Been running 285/75R17s on my fj for 8+ years. @tinkerersadventure on here has some fitment tips in his videos, as well as some great flex information. I was able to adjust & lower my fj almost 2 inches & now it's even more capable.
To fit 35's on my 5th gen, I did a 1" body lift. Body Mount Chop. Upper control arms. Mud flap delete. Pinch welds bent/hammerd down. Trimming of the wheel well plastic near pinch welds, and Viper cut. I'm running Black Rhino Armory Black 17x9.5 -18 offset 6x135/6x139.7 wheels with Falken Wildpeak 35" / 315/70/17. no rub, and no issues(Yet, only 15K km's on the upgrade so far). With a throttle controller it drives great. Though I plan on Regear to 4.88s because I plan on towing a trailer more off road. So 34s may be the way to go folks if you want a simpler fitment.
Great info on the right way to get into 35’s; I know they look and perform grea the re-gear, other than the work/cost…and absolutely add a front locker when you do. My brother and I went ARB Air Lockers; no complaints.
I went the route of installing about a 2" lift (maybe 2.5), I stayed with the stock TRD Pro wheels (+4 offset, no spacers) and installed 255/80R17 tires (33.1" pizza cutters). The TRD Pro already comes in with 9.5" of ground clearance. So, with this setup, there's no BMC or fender well mods required, and my steering rack and drivetrain are still happy and well within their abilities and specs, thus minimizing failures. With this setup, my experience has been that I can go pretty much anywhere a Jeep on 35s will go. Full armor underneath is icing on the cake.
I mostly agree, other than the fact a 35” tire moves your rear dif a full 1” higher off the ground than 33’s. If you are in rocks, that 1” makes a huge difference. On a dirt trail, not so much. 🙌
I knew what I was getting into when I went up to a 315/70/17. I regeared, body mount relocation, and pinch weld still with stock tires. Did the powerbrake big break kit and just recently upgraded to a tundra steering rack and Clevis himes steering links. Along with the total chaos spindle gussets.
@@theflea52 But you know there will be situations where you need that tiny bit of additional clearance. My dif is getting chewed up, so I’m actually considering a guard, which will help, but will decrease my clearance 🙄
This is why I like to run skinny 35's. My current favorite is 35x10.5R17 tires. I have also run 35x11.5R17. I try to run as close to stock offset as possible and keep the tires skinny.
255/80R17 Ridge Grapplers on TRD wheels on my TRD Offroad. Look great and they are only 9.9lbs heavier than the 265/70R17 Duratracs on the OEM wheels that I run in the winter. Weight is often overlooked and makes a big difference in braking and stopping.
Unsprung rolling weight is big issue. Do you run a 255/80 r17 spare in the stock location? I don’t want to run a rear tire carrier so I’d like to make sure that size fits underneath my 4Runner.
@@pn312 No KDSS. I have a Bilstein lift - 2.5" 6112 Fronts and 5160 Rears with 1.75" rear springs. Handles better than stock. Not nearly as much lean in corners and less dive on heavy braking.
Thanks for the good info and point of views. I’m going with 285/70/17 on my rig for sure! Don’t feel like dealing with all the extra trimming and beating of my 5th gen body. I test fitted 35’s on the front las weekend and I saw where the contact would be. Made up my mind now. 😂 I will have a 35 as a spare though- purchased a used one just to try it out😅
I really love your videos. I love the brotherly love you both have for one another. Please do more videos both of you. I would also love to go wheeling with you both. Cheers
Glad I got my 305/70/17 on my first Gen taco. It’s a 33.9 12.2 I think the 315 would’ve caused a bit more rub then I wanted. That being said I do have SPC uppers and that helped a ton and didn’t need to trim much at all. Good vid!
Thank you. It’s unfortunate Toyota hasn’t clued in on the fact people want to add larger tires. They could make it a lot easier with some simple mods that would appeal to off-roader’s without upsetting the daily drivers. 🙌
Heard about your accident. I'm wishing you a speedy and complete recovery. Medical recovery, not vehicle recovery. I figured I should specify based on the channel topic ;)
THANK YOU! I’m grateful to be here and am doing really well on the recovery road; I took my first unsupported (no crutches) steps yesterday and hope to be fully back into the off-roading scene by summer. 🙌
I love the looks of bigger tires and lifts on 4Runners. Luckily, 265/70-17 BFG KO2s with Bilstein 5100 shocks with the front set at 0.85” on my 4Runner gets me to my hunting spots out West so far. 🤞
If it suits the need, it’s the right setup 👍🏻. Heck, a stock 4Runner will get people most places, but there’s always that itch to do harder and harder trails 😄
@@aired-downoverland9239 I’m sorry to hear that. I’m an avid rider myself and woke up in the hospital before, you’ll be back before you know it. I was ready before I could even swing a leg. Rest up and take care brother.
I totally agree that 34s are the sweet spot for the 5th gen 4Runner. I had the 34” KM3S on mine and it tackled Moab and Ouray with little issue. I will say that if you drive through mountains or hills often, you’d want your regear even with 34s. Just based on my experience. Great video guys.
Just had this video pop up on my recommended this morning (9/30/24). My biggest regret was selling my 2022 T4R OR-P Lunar Rock in December ‘21 after buying it Oct ‘21. I was doing Uber/Lyft and the MPG w/ gas being $3.86/gallon at Costco killed my income (didn’t know I could deduct gas costs). Now I have a 2023 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 Access Cab and I’m averaging 18.3mpg and it should go up since I’m starting a job 16 miles away rather than 4.6 miles. I’m thinking I might get around 22mpg’s. When I build up my Tacoma I’m looking to put 255/85R16 without a lift. The wheel and tire combo I’m looking at is around 17 pounds heavier than stock.
The rotational mass of the heavier tire/wheel set-up will have some impact on your MPGs, but it’s hard to stay stock when there are so many ways to personalize your rig. Have fun with your Tacoma build 🙌
Falken Wildpeak RT01’s in 35x11.5 load C on a 17x9” -12 wheel. Only 0.4lbs heavier than a 285/75 load C (4lbs heavier than 285/70E Cooper ST Maxx). *Negligible* increase in cutting & clearancing compared to 34’s. Offset & alignment are important but tire width is paramount. I already did the BMC for 33’s. If Im going to trim any further it doesn’t make sense to settle on 34’s. IMO once you get to 33’s driveline heat/stress, steering, gearing & mpg are already compromised & out of spec. Once you get to 34’s w/ a V6 you’ll probably re-gear. Might as well get 35’s at that point. 💸 Great video, thanks for sharing! 🍺
Did you re-gear? I’m running 4.88’s so my shift points and torque are excellent. I might go 35’s one day, but then again, I might go solid axle swap and 38’s or 40’s. The build is never complete for me. Happy wheeling 🙌
I haven’t re-geared yet. Figure i’ll wait for the cash to do rear locker at the same time. 4.56 i reckon. 12.6mpg highway w/ the V8 & 33’s here in the pacific northwest. 70% of that is in 4th gear because 5th is too tall to be useful for anything but flat ground 😂. I like that you’ve really emphasized wear & component stress. I’ve destroyed a tie rod, spindle & steering rack on 33’s. Im guessing a rear locker will allow more mech sympathy. I bet 31’s & a locker would outperform 35’s on an open diff. Just wouldn’t look as cool in the Whole Foods Parking lot.
I’ve been running 285/75r17 on my GX460 for awhile now. Can back up the claim that it’s the perfect size for these rigs. Ive always said there is no performance difference going from 285/75r17 to 35x12.5. Especially when you consider most 35’s don’t even measure 35”; like mentioned your talking about maybe .5” of clearance at the rear diff. From there if you truly need bigger, 37+, you bought the wrong vehicle all together. A Jeep Wrangler rubicon xtreme recon package is a MUCH better purchase for that purpose. 4Runner/GX are an amazing platform for overlanding but they are NOT for hard/extreme rock crawling.
@@aired-downoverland9239 I also appreciated the brother banter! I wish mine lived closer. He just got a 04 Sequoia for his first overland vehicle. We are hoping to plan a couple trips. Hard with young kids and 1000 miles apart!
@@Myotis05 My input would be, make it happen. My kids, and Jon’s, are all adults now, but they have so many great memories of road trips and outdoor adventures. They’re now out having their own adventures; very rewarding to see as a proud father. BTW, we had that gen Sequoia and loved it! I think they’re an underestimated platform for overlanding.
sound logic on this tire fitment. I would have liked to hear what gearing your using or stock gearing and how performance is impacted with power and MPGs
Bother my brother and I are running 4.88 gears and both have front lockers. You’re MPG’s won’t really change, but your transmission shift points, and overall torque are better, especially Offroad; regearing is one of the best mods I’ve invested in. 🙌
Yes, I agree, but a 285 7017, for instance, the Mickey Thompson, Baja boss AT e rated, has enough tread that you’re well into the 33 inch span, it’s not worth the extra half inch to go up from the 28570 in my opinion, you don Really gain anything off-road, you’re just adding weight, I’d rather take an E rated 28570 than a C rated 28575, I think it does add slightly better looks, and make the truck require a cut and still have some potential rubbing issues that you can easily eliminate with the 28570
Steve and John always so much great content you guys put with these videos. You guys are natural with this stuff. Question, did you do a BMC to fit 34s or not needed?
Great informative video from 2 cool brothers!!! I’m running 33”x10.5r17 kenda klever RT’s and love them w/ 3” lift,1.25” spider track spacers on stock,1” front diff drop,will it cause rapid wear and tears on front bearing,ball joints,tie rods etc…thanks
Im buying a 295/70r17 for my 4Runner. Id like a 35" tire, but id rather not risk going too big. Especially without regearing. I wish I could go with a 285/75r17, but Mickey Thompson doesn't sell that size. They have a 285/70, 295/70, or larger...
If you’re referring to a lift, I will tell you this without hesitation, a lift has ZERO effect, positive or negative, on rubbing. A lift pushes your wheel down within the range of travel, it does not increase your travel (unless you go to mid or long travel suspension). So, without a lift your suspension still travels the same amount upward and downward. If you want even more details, Kai, from Tinkerer’s Adventure has a great video on the subject. Note back to your question. If you remove your mud flap, do a body mount chop, and trim your front fender and liner, yes, you can fit 285/75 R17’s. Hope that helps.
Comparing stock 31.6" tires to 33.8" is a 2.2" difference in diameter, divide by 2 to get radius which gives 1.1" clearance. I'm new at this, but my troubles seem to be ground clearance, what other benefits does a larger tire offer? Mud performance?
A larger tires is the ONLY way to create ground clearance under your rear differential (other than crazy expensive portal axles). They also typically have a larger contact patch (more rubber in contact with road/trail), and off-roading is all about maintaining traction. Larger tires handle trail obstacles better in how they roll over them, and protect your wheel/bead with larger sidewalls. 👍🏻
BFG's Are way undersized I'd be they are under 34" - 35.5" if you measured, as I bought as set of Ko2 37's and only measured 35" in actual height, Ko2's are pretty light as well
Excellent run-through on tire size for the fifth gens. Touched on everything I experienced as well. I went with 285/75r17 Falken WildPeak AT3W with Method MR703 a little more than a year ago. Extremely pleased as well with the size, and the bead grip appears to do a great job at low pressures. Now Steve, how much did it cost you to get Jon to agree with you on camera?
He was drunk 😆. Nah, he’s a good brother and has supported me a ton. The first time I even went off-roading was early teens in a 68 Nissan Patrol Jon bought. Good times!
Steve, thank you so much for this video. I'm a mechanical engineer myself, so I enjoy learning about the technical aspects. You were speaking straight to me as I am one of the ones wrestling on what tire size to go with. Ever since I found out about the 285/75/17, I have thought it is the perfect tire on paper, but you just confirmed everything. I have a 4Runner that looks very much like yours (silver 2022 trd off road premium) and I'd be interested to learn more about your build - suspension, tire carrier, gearing. Do you have a build sheet or something somewhere?
Thank you for your comment. I’d be happy to share more info on my build, what I like, what I plan to change, etc. If you want to share your email I’ll send you all the details. 👍🏻
I'm considering 285/75R17 for my next set of tires. Right now I'm running 295/70R17 on 17x9 -12 wheels and 4* of caster. I still have my mudflaps, though I had to trim the inside of them a bit, no BMC. Also pushed the front of the fender liner back and trimmed a little off of the front bumper. Since width seems to be more of an issue than height, I'm thinking the new size might not require any additional modification.
Great video guys. Thanks for the info. Currently running 285/70/17’s on 2019 TRD Off-road with Icon stage 2 at 2” lift front and rear with bmc, stock TRD Pro wheels. Can I get the 285/75/17’s to fit without trimming forward of the tire? Don’t really want to alter the looks that much. Thanks again
Thanks for checking in. If you have the aluminum icon upper control arms, check the spacing between your tire and the UCA, it can get tight depending on the tire. If you go to the 285/75 you’ll have tubing up front if you don’t do any trimming unfortunately. The other thing to consider is you should really consider re-gearing if you go to 34’s, which is a considerable expense, but it does provide the opportunity to add lockers; I went with 4.88 gearing. 🙌
Since tires are rarely the actual size advertised, it’s hard to answer that. You can always try things with no spacers (recommended) then consider adding them if you determine they’re needed. 🙌
Here are the differences, each starting with the 295, then 285: 33.3 vs 33.8 tall. 11.6 vs 11.2 wide. 8.1 vs 8.4 sidewall. Either would look great and perform great. I don’t have any firsthand knowledge regarding the extra .4 inch in width causing rubbing, but that’s what I’d watch for. 👍🏻🙌
That’s the million dollar question as there are great kits focused on Fox, King, Bilstein, then on the lower priced end like Ironman, which is what I have. It should always be based on what you plan to do with your rig.
Thank you for the awesome video , my only question is do I need a transmission scan gauge to run 34’s on stock weight without regearing ? Or is the transmission going to be ok ?
Steve as always great content, been DIY from suspension to springs. Now im at part of BMC which i would follow your vids. i do have 1 question did you regear on your 34s? I am caught either ma Mickey Thompson A/T 33x12.5 or a 295x70r17. I concern with 34s regear
Eric, I ram on stock gears for one year, then went with Nitro 4.88 and did a front ARB air locker in the front at the same time. I have not regretted the re-gearing, it makes a huge difference. 🙌
@@coragauvasile4833 The first questions are, what’s your goal, like stock, or a lower overall ratio. For a 34” tire, the 4:88 is a great choice on and off-road. It’s “like” stock and will keep your rig from searching for the right gear when running larger tires.
What is your offset on that rim? I have a -10 offset on my wheels and I feel it takes away tire , too wide maybe? Looking for the perfect wheel offset for over landing
I believe it’s 0/4.75”. They are Method 704’s with bead grip and they’ve been fantastic; never lost a bead, even at 12 PSI. My tires are 285/75/R17; basically 34’s
I’ve ran 34’s without cutting my fenders. I’m surprised you did. They looked like pizza cutters to me so I went with a 305 tire instead. A bit more rubbing but nothing too bad. I’d say if someone wants a wider stance without putting on 35s try the 305s
My fender cut is primarily for approach angle, though I’d be surprised if any 34 fit without rubbing on the front lower portion of the fender. The 305 is a great option if the appearance of the 285/75 bothers someone. 👍🏻
One thing to discuss is the spare tire. My understanding is the max size that can fit underneath the 4Runner is about 33in. I garage my 4Runner and want easy access to the cargo area. I want to avoid a rear tire carrier with all that weight and bulk hanging off the back of my vehicle. I currently run 285 70r17 BFG KO2 c load tires. (51 lbs per tire) I’m nervous about continuing to run a stock size spare while going off road. Even a tight fit 285 70 spare hangs a little low under the vehicle due to its thickness. I’m considering running a 295 70 r17 and trying to fit a 255 80r17 as a spare (essentially the same diameter). Anyone have any thoughts about this setup?
The only difference between the two is the 285 is 11.2 wide and the 305 is 12. The wider you go the greater risk for rubbing AND I’d argue there is zero performance add for the extra width. But that’s just me 🙌
The only difference between the two is the 285 is 11.2 wide and the 305 is 12. The wider you go the greater risk for rubbing AND I’d argue there is zero performance add for the extra width. But that’s just me 🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 this video has been super helpful. I currently have the TRD PRO with OEM fox suspension that I plan on swapping out with a dedicated 3” Dobinson kit. Do you feel that a 285/75 paired with a 17x8 wheel with a -20 to -38 offset would require MORE cutting outside of a BMC?
That’s the impossible question, it’s just hard to tell until everything is in place. I wish I had a more concrete answer for you. I do like the set-up you’re moving to 👍🏻🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 regardless, lucky to have found your channel. Y’all are down to earth good people, no BS, knowledgeable and entertaining to watch! I wish you continued success in Aired-Down Overland’s channel! New subscriber for sure!
I have a zero offset wheel and had no rubbing in any situation. I later added a 1.25 back spacer (had them laying around) and had to trim a little more inner fender liner, which was no big deal.
Would I have to make any other changes if I ran 34s with an 18 inch rim?? I strongly want 35s. But I do know the risks of doing so. I’m on a 3 inch true suspension lift with 33s on 18s. After watching this video I am convinced to run 34s being I do not do a whole lot of overlanding. But when I do, I love to have the tire capability to do so.
Are guys in portland, oregon? I am not tech savvy. and i'm looking buying a used 2015 4runner 3 inch lift. I am wanting a pre buy check up and wanted to see if you guys can do that or recommend a mechanic to do a check make sure there's no major things going on.
If they weren’t daily drivers, I’d do it in a hot second. Another consideration for us is the fact we have a 2hr drive over a curvy mountain pass to get to our favorite local off-roading location.
A BMC was the first thing I did, and my 4Runner was brand new. I think without one you’ll have some running during articulation. Besides, it’s a 4Runner, you’ll never need to use the warranty 😉
Unfortunately no. On the positive side, I wonder if a spare is really needed when you’re running a high quality tire; I don’t know a single person that’s ever needed their spare 🤞🙌
Depends on your offset. You can probably do it with 0 offset wheels. I run - 25 offset and get body mount rub with adjustable uca's, although only at 8psi and high energy impacts whilst turning.
I’ve run them with and without. The rig has been heavily tested without spacers and there is no rubbing. I have spacers on now and have no street driving rubbing, but I need to do some serious flexing to see if they’ll cause rubbing.
Should based on the fact a typical 4Runner suspension lift has no impact on tire fitment/rubbing, they simply push there tire down in the travel cycle but don’t increase the travel cycle UNLESS you move to a king travel set-up. Check out the channel Tinkers Adventure, he did a great video on this subject.
I haven’t run them personally but know people that speak highly of them, people I trust. The high measurement is only ~1/2 off the mark for a 285/75, which isn’t surprising, but the width would be more than a full inch narrower; that seems odd and something I’d look into more. Shooting from the hip, if those measurements are correct, I would think they’d fit without rubbing.
@aired-downoverland9239 they would rub. you will need a bmc and viper. I run 255/80/17s on 17x8.5 -10 and I had to trim the front bumper a bit maybe 1inch or so. I was running 255/80/17s stock height on stock snowflakes no rubbing
@@ashtonfera If you go 285/75 17, most of those concerns go away, especially if you do a front CV drop, which is super cheap and super easy to install.
Incredible that this video exists. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it 🙌
Good videos by this old school boy. Normal guys great videos. I’m running a 33x12.5 17baja boss with -10 offset. Bmc old man emu uppers and have no worries in the front only. BMC is a must. I got a 2” lift as well but no worries running the wide tire. Love the look and had little poke.
Awesome 👍🏻👍🏻
Dang sounds sweet!.. got an IG??? Would love to see this setup.
LoL, Perfect duo for infotainment. Lot of valuable info 100%. Since I like to keep my mud flaps on I think my option is smaller size 285/70R17 on stock wheels. I have a big reason to use the word "smaller size" 285/70R17 is because I think I won't be able to have my mud flaps with 285/70R17 33inches or bigger than 33inches. Hence 32.76in 285/70R17 would fit my needs. Right now I have Falken Wildpeak AT3W SL (51lbs) and Toyo Open Country AT3 SL (47lbs). In the past I had 32.8 BFG KO2 C on my TRD ORP. Oh and here in CO my tires need to have 3PMSF rating, so not all ATs in my option list and non of RTs and MTs available for my needs.
I love that you’re sticking to what you need to suit your use. Too many people get caught up in the chase for ever larger tires, without a need. Also agree the 3 peak rated tires are a solid choice for CO, and any other states that gets into the freeze zone. Thx for watching 🙌
34s will get the job done! Unless you like big rock gardens, you can do what an overlander needs to do with 34s. Nice summary of this topic guys!
Totally agree Clayton! Would I love to fit 35’s or 37’s? Heck yeah, but the Toyota IFS just wasn’t built to handle the load. Thanks for the channel support 🙌
Love that you're putting out the technical content. I'm a huge fan of John's channel and yours is a great compliment to his. I'm enjoying learning more about both of your setups. Keep it up!
Thank you, we’re enjoying it and hoping to create content people can enjoy and learn from. 🙌
Great content. Been riding same trails with 31, 32, 33 and 35 tires on almost same rigs.. all I can say you can always get through! The only difference is amount of shivers you get from smaller tires, you have to think way ahead with those :)
SPOT ON! It’s hard not to go for the look you want, but as far as “need”, like you said, a 31 will get you to a lot of cool places. Great comment 🙌
I run Kenda 35x10.50r17 with -12 offset wheel. With SuperPro quad offset LCA bushing and SPC UCA in E setting. Still get 3.5° of caster and zero rub. Minimal BMC.
Best for me because it's affordable and perform really good in very wide variation of terrain including snow. Relatively quiet on the road too.
That’s a super unique set-up, very cool.
Very detailed and technical review of the 34 and 35. Always quality content on this channel!
Thank you Bill 👍🏻👍🏻
Can confirm I run this tire size (285/75/17) on my 5th gen 4Runner. I run with my buddy’s jeep in 35’s and I can go everywhere he goes. Also if you go with the Yokohama Geolander MT G003 it’s actually the biggest size tire in this size being 34.1” tall. A true 34.
Also I didn’t have to do a body mount chop or cut anything. I’m running this on my 2019 Trd pro which has +6 off set wheels and a precut bumper from the factory. Repeat no rubbing with this set up since the positive offset wheel
That's awesome, and I'll check out the MT G003's
Did you regear on those m/t’s?
Steve and John, thank you for another great video! Possibly the best video comparing the two sizes for daily and overland use. Keep the videos coming!! Cheers from North Idaho🌲
Thank you Zach 👍🏻👍🏻
I agree with this video. BFGs do run significantly smaller and a set of extended wheel studs and a .5 - .75" hub centric spacer could fix some rub with the 315s. 285/75/17 is a goldilocks tire for these. An SPC upper control arm with some forward caster would help get that tire away from the body side as well.
Good input Derek 🙌
Great job guy's, real funny stuff between two brother's! I can relate to all that joking around about who's smarter, my brother and I do that all the time. But most importantly this was very informative as I'm running 33's but want to bump it up to 34's, once again great job...
Thanks Louie, happy to hear our craziness was relatable and helpful 🙌
Nice video covering the step up difference between the two. My game plan for a while now has been to go 285/75r17 from my 285/70r17 tires and I think it should be an easy upgrade.
I'm liking your game plan!
Been running 285/75R17s on my fj for 8+ years. @tinkerersadventure on here has some fitment tips in his videos, as well as some great flex information. I was able to adjust & lower my fj almost 2 inches & now it's even more capable.
To fit 35's on my 5th gen, I did a 1" body lift. Body Mount Chop. Upper control arms. Mud flap delete. Pinch welds bent/hammerd down. Trimming of the wheel well plastic near pinch welds, and Viper cut. I'm running Black Rhino Armory Black 17x9.5 -18 offset 6x135/6x139.7 wheels with Falken Wildpeak 35" / 315/70/17. no rub, and no issues(Yet, only 15K km's on the upgrade so far).
With a throttle controller it drives great. Though I plan on Regear to 4.88s because I plan on towing a trailer more off road.
So 34s may be the way to go folks if you want a simpler fitment.
Great info on the right way to get into 35’s; I know they look and perform grea the re-gear, other than the work/cost…and absolutely add a front locker when you do. My brother and I went ARB Air Lockers; no complaints.
Sounds like one awesome 5th Gen!!
I went the route of installing about a 2" lift (maybe 2.5), I stayed with the stock TRD Pro wheels (+4 offset, no spacers) and installed 255/80R17 tires (33.1" pizza cutters). The TRD Pro already comes in with 9.5" of ground clearance. So, with this setup, there's no BMC or fender well mods required, and my steering rack and drivetrain are still happy and well within their abilities and specs, thus minimizing failures. With this setup, my experience has been that I can go pretty much anywhere a Jeep on 35s will go. Full armor underneath is icing on the cake.
I mostly agree, other than the fact a 35” tire moves your rear dif a full 1” higher off the ground than 33’s. If you are in rocks, that 1” makes a huge difference. On a dirt trail, not so much. 🙌
Great information as always. You guys sure know your stuff!
Thank you NWB 🙌
Thanks Brian!
I knew what I was getting into when I went up to a 315/70/17. I regeared, body mount relocation, and pinch weld still with stock tires. Did the powerbrake big break kit and just recently upgraded to a tundra steering rack and Clevis himes steering links. Along with the total chaos spindle gussets.
That’s the way to do it, that’s all-in. Props to you for doing it right, your rig will appreciate it.
I still wish Toyota made it easier though 🙌
Nice!!! 🙌🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 yeah that was a pretty penny just for a quarter inch of rear diff clearance lol.
@@theflea52 But you know there will be situations where you need that tiny bit of additional clearance. My dif is getting chewed up, so I’m actually considering a guard, which will help, but will decrease my clearance 🙄
This is why I like to run skinny 35's. My current favorite is 35x10.5R17 tires. I have also run 35x11.5R17. I try to run as close to stock offset as possible and keep the tires skinny.
Good comment 👍🏻
255/80R17 Ridge Grapplers on TRD wheels on my TRD Offroad. Look great and they are only 9.9lbs heavier than the 265/70R17 Duratracs on the OEM wheels that I run in the winter. Weight is often overlooked and makes a big difference in braking and stopping.
Totally agree, rolling mass is real and should be on everyone’s mind as they consider larger, heavier tires.
Unsprung rolling weight is big issue. Do you run a 255/80 r17 spare in the stock location? I don’t want to run a rear tire carrier so I’d like to make sure that size fits underneath my 4Runner.
@@pn312 Yes, I have a matching wheel and tire for a spare and it fits, no problem. And you gain a bit of extra clearance since it is a narrower tire.
@@nismo370z4 Thanks, I appreciate it. Do you have KDSS?
@@pn312 No KDSS. I have a Bilstein lift - 2.5" 6112 Fronts and 5160 Rears with 1.75" rear springs. Handles better than stock. Not nearly as much lean in corners and less dive on heavy braking.
Thanks for the good info and point of views. I’m going with 285/70/17 on my rig for sure! Don’t feel like dealing with all the extra trimming and beating of my 5th gen body. I test fitted 35’s on the front las weekend and I saw where the contact would be. Made up my mind now. 😂 I will have a 35 as a spare though- purchased a used one just to try it out😅
Always glad to hear people are doing their own research 👍🏻👍🏻🙌
You guys almost talked me into a 4 runner 👊🏻😎
Almost counts 😄. 🙌
Great one guys! Liked the drone footage.
Much appreciated sanjuan4942
You guys have great content. Thanks.
Thank you Jason 🙌
I really love your videos.
I love the brotherly love you both have for one another.
Please do more videos both of you.
I would also love to go wheeling with you both.
Cheers
Thank you. We’ve taken a break while I recover from a motorcycle accident. Hope to be making videos this summer.
Great video! Thanks for sharing
Happy you enjoyed it 🙌
Great video, guys. I'm going to share this to my group site. I totally agree with this info. Thanks.
Thank you very much. As a channel owner yourself, you understand how this helps. 🙌
Glad I got my 305/70/17 on my first Gen taco. It’s a 33.9 12.2 I think the 315 would’ve caused a bit more rub then I wanted. That being said I do have SPC uppers and that helped a ton and didn’t need to trim much at all. Good vid!
Thank you. It’s unfortunate Toyota hasn’t clued in on the fact people want to add larger tires. They could make it a lot easier with some simple mods that would appeal to off-roader’s without upsetting the daily drivers. 🙌
Heard about your accident. I'm wishing you a speedy and complete recovery. Medical recovery, not vehicle recovery. I figured I should specify based on the channel topic ;)
THANK YOU! I’m grateful to be here and am doing really well on the recovery road; I took my first unsupported (no crutches) steps yesterday and hope to be fully back into the off-roading scene by summer. 🙌
A lot of really good information.
Thanks for the video
Thank you for the support, much appreciated. BTW, love the name of your channel 🙌
Thank you
I love the looks of bigger tires and lifts on 4Runners. Luckily, 265/70-17 BFG KO2s with Bilstein 5100 shocks with the front set at 0.85” on my 4Runner gets me to my hunting spots out West so far. 🤞
If it suits the need, it’s the right setup 👍🏻. Heck, a stock 4Runner will get people most places, but there’s always that itch to do harder and harder trails 😄
great tech video and very well communicated. much appreciated as im doing a full build on my 22 right now! keep up the awesome edits
Thank you and have fun with your build. I’m taking a little time off due to a motorcycle “mishap” but will be back in TH-cam land very soon. 🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 I’m sorry to hear that. I’m an avid rider myself and woke up in the hospital before, you’ll be back before you know it. I was ready before I could even swing a leg. Rest up and take care brother.
Great detailed information. 👍
Thank you Tim 🙌
I'm sure you know but just to confirm, the 33.8" tire is not a 2.2" clearance gain, it's a 1.1" gain.
Correct 👍🏻
Discoverer ST MAXX are a true 34” in 285/75/17 - per Cooper👍
I totally agree that 34s are the sweet spot for the 5th gen 4Runner. I had the 34” KM3S on mine and it tackled Moab and Ouray with little issue. I will say that if you drive through mountains or hills often, you’d want your regear even with 34s. Just based on my experience. Great video guys.
seeing your videos before, but forgot to subscribe, glad i found you again. good job on your vids.
Thank you very much! I had a little motorcycle accident I’m recovering from, but will be back producing 4Runner content by summer 🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 hoping you have a speedy recovery! Looking forward to more videos!
100 agree. Wouldnt go over 34s for most builds
Perhaps one day Toyota will give us a front locker and a 35” tire option; dare to dream 😄
@@redrider7730 I fear you’re spot on here. They just don’t get the the market
Just had this video pop up on my recommended this morning (9/30/24). My biggest regret was selling my 2022 T4R OR-P Lunar Rock in December ‘21 after buying it Oct ‘21. I was doing Uber/Lyft and the MPG w/ gas being $3.86/gallon at Costco killed my income (didn’t know I could deduct gas costs). Now I have a 2023 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4 Access Cab and I’m averaging 18.3mpg and it should go up since I’m starting a job 16 miles away rather than 4.6 miles. I’m thinking I might get around 22mpg’s.
When I build up my Tacoma I’m looking to put 255/85R16 without a lift. The wheel and tire combo I’m looking at is around 17 pounds heavier than stock.
The rotational mass of the heavier tire/wheel set-up will have some impact on your MPGs, but it’s hard to stay stock when there are so many ways to personalize your rig. Have fun with your Tacoma build 🙌
Good job guys!
Thank you, we appreciate it, and the support 🙌
285-70-17 is THE best size overall. Less strain on drive train, very little millage drop, and good flotation.
Everyone has a favorite
Falken Wildpeak RT01’s in 35x11.5 load C on a 17x9” -12 wheel. Only 0.4lbs heavier than a 285/75 load C (4lbs heavier than 285/70E Cooper ST Maxx). *Negligible* increase in cutting & clearancing compared to 34’s.
Offset & alignment are important but tire width is paramount. I already did the BMC for 33’s. If Im going to trim any further it doesn’t make sense to settle on 34’s.
IMO once you get to 33’s driveline heat/stress, steering, gearing & mpg are already compromised & out of spec. Once you get to 34’s w/ a V6 you’ll probably re-gear. Might as well get 35’s at that point. 💸
Great video, thanks for sharing! 🍺
Did you re-gear? I’m running 4.88’s so my shift points and torque are excellent. I might go 35’s one day, but then again, I might go solid axle swap and 38’s or 40’s. The build is never complete for me. Happy wheeling 🙌
I haven’t re-geared yet. Figure i’ll wait for the cash to do rear locker at the same time. 4.56 i reckon.
12.6mpg highway w/ the V8 & 33’s here in the pacific northwest. 70% of that is in 4th gear because 5th is too tall to be useful for anything but flat ground 😂.
I like that you’ve really emphasized wear & component stress. I’ve destroyed a tie rod, spindle & steering rack on 33’s. Im guessing a rear locker will allow more mech sympathy.
I bet 31’s & a locker would outperform 35’s on an open diff. Just wouldn’t look as cool in the Whole Foods Parking lot.
I’ve been running 285/75r17 on my GX460 for awhile now. Can back up the claim that it’s the perfect size for these rigs.
Ive always said there is no performance difference going from 285/75r17 to 35x12.5. Especially when you consider most 35’s don’t even measure 35”; like mentioned your talking about maybe .5” of clearance at the rear diff. From there if you truly need bigger, 37+, you bought the wrong vehicle all together. A Jeep Wrangler rubicon xtreme recon package is a MUCH better purchase for that purpose. 4Runner/GX are an amazing platform for overlanding but they are NOT for hard/extreme rock crawling.
Great comments, thank you
great video
Thank you David, much appreciated 🙌
great info!!!! thank you
Glad you liked it Tim! What you can’t tell in the video is the fact it was 94 degrees; we were cooking! 🥵
@@aired-downoverland9239 I also appreciated the brother banter! I wish mine lived closer. He just got a 04 Sequoia for his first overland vehicle. We are hoping to plan a couple trips. Hard with young kids and 1000 miles apart!
@@Myotis05 My input would be, make it happen. My kids, and Jon’s, are all adults now, but they have so many great memories of road trips and outdoor adventures. They’re now out having their own adventures; very rewarding to see as a proud father. BTW, we had that gen Sequoia and loved it! I think they’re an underestimated platform for overlanding.
sound logic on this tire fitment. I would have liked to hear what gearing your using or stock gearing and how performance is impacted with power and MPGs
Bother my brother and I are running 4.88 gears and both have front lockers. You’re MPG’s won’t really change, but your transmission shift points, and overall torque are better, especially Offroad; regearing is one of the best mods I’ve invested in. 🙌
Yes, I agree, but a 285 7017, for instance, the Mickey Thompson, Baja boss AT e rated, has enough tread that you’re well into the 33 inch span, it’s not worth the extra half inch to go up from the 28570 in my opinion, you don Really gain anything off-road, you’re just adding weight, I’d rather take an E rated 28570 than a C rated 28575, I think it does add slightly better looks, and make the truck require a cut and still have some potential rubbing issues that you can easily eliminate with the 28570
That’s what’s great about building your own rig, you get to choose what you want it to look like, how you want to accessorize it. 🙌
Your brother can try 35x11.5x17 many brand carry them. Will solve the issues:) good video
Cool, I’ll let him know 🙌
Steve and John always so much great content you guys put with these videos. You guys are natural with this stuff. Question, did you do a BMC to fit 34s or not needed?
Thanks Lucas. Yes, I did mine myself (video on my TH-cam channel showing that) and Jon found a guy that did his for $150.
Great informative video from 2 cool brothers!!! I’m running 33”x10.5r17 kenda klever RT’s and love them w/ 3” lift,1.25” spider track spacers on stock,1” front diff drop,will it cause rapid wear and tears on front bearing,ball joints,tie rods etc…thanks
You’ll get less wear the closer to stock you are, but everything wears eventually. You gotta pay to play 🙌
Where are you guys at? Looking for new content! Hope all is well.
We’re in my front yard in Oregon. Content coming very soon that will explain the gap in content. 🙌🙌
So 33.8s will be my desired size.
Great info, why not choose pizza cutters?
In my 40+ years off-roading, I’ve learned pizza cutters certainly have their place in the lineup 👍🏻🙌
Im buying a 295/70r17 for my 4Runner.
Id like a 35" tire, but id rather not risk going too big. Especially without regearing.
I wish I could go with a 285/75r17, but Mickey Thompson doesn't sell that size. They have a 285/70, 295/70, or larger...
It’s always a struggle because the actual size between manufactures can vary considerably. 🙌
Wow very helpfull! Can I put 285/75R17 on my 5th gen 4runner stock suspension?
If you’re referring to a lift, I will tell you this without hesitation, a lift has ZERO effect, positive or negative, on rubbing. A lift pushes your wheel down within the range of travel, it does not increase your travel (unless you go to mid or long travel suspension). So, without a lift your suspension still travels the same amount upward and downward. If you want even more details, Kai, from Tinkerer’s Adventure has a great video on the subject. Note back to your question. If you remove your mud flap, do a body mount chop, and trim your front fender and liner, yes, you can fit 285/75 R17’s. Hope that helps.
Comparing stock 31.6" tires to 33.8" is a 2.2" difference in diameter, divide by 2 to get radius which gives 1.1" clearance. I'm new at this, but my troubles seem to be ground clearance, what other benefits does a larger tire offer? Mud performance?
Bigger wheels roll over objects easier
A larger tires is the ONLY way to create ground clearance under your rear differential (other than crazy expensive portal axles). They also typically have a larger contact patch (more rubber in contact with road/trail), and off-roading is all about maintaining traction. Larger tires handle trail obstacles better in how they roll over them, and protect your wheel/bead with larger sidewalls. 👍🏻
@@aired-downoverland9239 That makes sense. Thank you both!
BFG's Are way undersized I'd be they are under 34" - 35.5" if you measured, as I bought as set of Ko2 37's and only measured 35" in actual height, Ko2's are pretty light as well
Excellent run-through on tire size for the fifth gens. Touched on everything I experienced as well. I went with 285/75r17 Falken WildPeak AT3W with Method MR703 a little more than a year ago. Extremely pleased as well with the size, and the bead grip appears to do a great job at low pressures.
Now Steve, how much did it cost you to get Jon to agree with you on camera?
He was drunk 😆. Nah, he’s a good brother and has supported me a ton. The first time I even went off-roading was early teens in a 68 Nissan Patrol Jon bought. Good times!
Steve, thank you so much for this video. I'm a mechanical engineer myself, so I enjoy learning about the technical aspects. You were speaking straight to me as I am one of the ones wrestling on what tire size to go with. Ever since I found out about the 285/75/17, I have thought it is the perfect tire on paper, but you just confirmed everything. I have a 4Runner that looks very much like yours (silver 2022 trd off road premium) and I'd be interested to learn more about your build - suspension, tire carrier, gearing. Do you have a build sheet or something somewhere?
Thank you for your comment. I’d be happy to share more info on my build, what I like, what I plan to change, etc. If you want to share your email I’ll send you all the details. 👍🏻
I'm considering 285/75R17 for my next set of tires. Right now I'm running 295/70R17 on 17x9 -12 wheels and 4* of caster. I still have my mudflaps, though I had to trim the inside of them a bit, no BMC. Also pushed the front of the fender liner back and trimmed a little off of the front bumper. Since width seems to be more of an issue than height, I'm thinking the new size might not require any additional modification.
I highly doubt you’ll be able to run your mud flaps without the tires rubbing.
Great video guys. Thanks for the info. Currently running 285/70/17’s on 2019 TRD Off-road with Icon stage 2 at 2” lift front and rear with bmc, stock TRD Pro wheels. Can I get the 285/75/17’s to fit without trimming forward of the tire? Don’t really want to alter the looks that much. Thanks again
Thanks for checking in. If you have the aluminum icon upper control arms, check the spacing between your tire and the UCA, it can get tight depending on the tire. If you go to the 285/75 you’ll have tubing up front if you don’t do any trimming unfortunately. The other thing to consider is you should really consider re-gearing if you go to 34’s, which is a considerable expense, but it does provide the opportunity to add lockers; I went with 4.88 gearing. 🙌
What’s the name of John’s channel please.
Jon’s channel is Overland Pacific Northwest. You should see a link to it right in the top banner of my page. Thx for supporting us 🙌
Did he forget to mention the lift kit he has, or does this also work on a stock suspension vehicle?
3” front, 2” rear
Great video and two quick questions, 1. How those 3.8" tire effect the CV Joints? 2. Did you do any lift? or anything other than those body mods?
I have had no CV issues. Yes, I have a 3” suspension lift
?? If I have 0 offset rims do I steel need the 1.25 spacers. Good videos 👍 keep the good work.
Since tires are rarely the actual size advertised, it’s hard to answer that. You can always try things with no spacers (recommended) then consider adding them if you determine they’re needed. 🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 okay thank you.
Hey! How about 295/70r 17 ? Im thingking about it but now im thingking about 285/75. Thanks
Here are the differences, each starting with the 295, then 285: 33.3 vs 33.8 tall. 11.6 vs 11.2 wide. 8.1 vs 8.4 sidewall. Either would look great and perform great. I don’t have any firsthand knowledge regarding the extra .4 inch in width causing rubbing, but that’s what I’d watch for. 👍🏻🙌
Love your content guys… I have a 16 trail. Would love to run that size. What lift package would you recommend? Ucas?
That’s the million dollar question as there are great kits focused on Fox, King, Bilstein, then on the lower priced end like Ironman, which is what I have. It should always be based on what you plan to do with your rig.
Thank you for the awesome video , my only question is do I need a transmission scan gauge to run 34’s on stock weight without regearing ? Or is the transmission going to be ok ?
I can’t answer if it will be ok, but I can say your shift points will be off as will your speedo.
Did the 285 75 R17 fit in your spare tire wheel well..? Assume not since it looks like you running a rigid spare tire carrier now
I didn’t try it but I doubt it would fit. If it did, it would also hang down too low.
Just upgraded to the 285 75 R17 thanks for the great videos..
Will the 285/75/17 fit with the SCS Gen5 9x17 with a -38mm offset with a 3" lift, Viper Cut, and BMC?
I haven’t tested all offsets, so I can’t say for sure.
What about the new angle of the front axes between the wheels and the front differential?
is worth do that lift?
I did the 1” differential drop to address the angle of the CV axles. It’s inexpensive and easy to install.
@@aired-downoverland9239 👍 thank you a lot.
Steve as always great content, been DIY from suspension to springs. Now im at part of BMC which i would follow your vids.
i do have 1 question did you regear on your 34s?
I am caught either ma Mickey Thompson A/T 33x12.5 or a 295x70r17. I concern with 34s regear
Eric, I ram on stock gears for one year, then went with Nitro 4.88 and did a front ARB air locker in the front at the same time. I have not regretted the re-gearing, it makes a huge difference. 🙌
@aired-downoverland9239 is it a huge difference between 4.56 gear and 4.88 ? I want to do it but not sure what to choose . Thanks
@@coragauvasile4833 The first questions are, what’s your goal, like stock, or a lower overall ratio. For a 34” tire, the 4:88 is a great choice on and off-road. It’s “like” stock and will keep your rig from searching for the right gear when running larger tires.
What is your offset on that rim? I have a -10 offset on my wheels and I feel it takes away tire , too wide maybe? Looking for the perfect wheel offset for over landing
I believe it’s 0/4.75”. They are Method 704’s with bead grip and they’ve been fantastic; never lost a bead, even at 12 PSI. My tires are 285/75/R17; basically 34’s
Great video! Did you have to regear for the 34’s?
I didn’t have to but I switch to 4:88’s
I’ve ran 34’s without cutting my fenders. I’m surprised you did. They looked like pizza cutters to me so I went with a 305 tire instead. A bit more rubbing but nothing too bad. I’d say if someone wants a wider stance without putting on 35s try the 305s
My fender cut is primarily for approach angle, though I’d be surprised if any 34 fit without rubbing on the front lower portion of the fender.
The 305 is a great option if the appearance of the 285/75 bothers someone. 👍🏻
Yeah the 34’s where great no complaints here.
What kind of tent is on John’s rig?
@@zachpeat5076 iKamper
Anyone seen the dude running 40s? It's sick
Is he running an IFS or solid axle up front?
One thing to discuss is the spare tire. My understanding is the max size that can fit underneath the 4Runner is about 33in. I garage my 4Runner and want easy access to the cargo area. I want to avoid a rear tire carrier with all that weight and bulk hanging off the back of my vehicle. I currently run 285 70r17 BFG KO2 c load tires. (51 lbs per tire) I’m nervous about continuing to run a stock size spare while going off road. Even a tight fit 285 70 spare hangs a little low under the vehicle due to its thickness. I’m considering running a 295 70 r17 and trying to fit a 255 80r17 as a spare (essentially the same diameter). Anyone have any thoughts about this setup?
As long as the spare’s diameter is the same, you’ll be fine.
285/75 vs 305/70 ?? Wish this was covered in the video!
The only difference between the two is the 285 is 11.2 wide and the 305 is 12. The wider you go the greater risk for rubbing AND I’d argue there is zero performance add for the extra width. But that’s just me 🙌
The only difference between the two is the 285 is 11.2 wide and the 305 is 12. The wider you go the greater risk for rubbing AND I’d argue there is zero performance add for the extra width. But that’s just me 🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 this video has been super helpful. I currently have the TRD PRO with OEM fox suspension that I plan on swapping out with a dedicated 3” Dobinson kit. Do you feel that a 285/75 paired with a 17x8 wheel with a -20 to -38 offset would require MORE cutting outside of a BMC?
That’s the impossible question, it’s just hard to tell until everything is in place. I wish I had a more concrete answer for you. I do like the set-up you’re moving to 👍🏻🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 regardless, lucky to have found your channel. Y’all are down to earth good people, no BS, knowledgeable and entertaining to watch! I wish you continued success in Aired-Down Overland’s channel! New subscriber for sure!
With this exact tire size, what will adding backspacing do to help prevent rubbing?
I have a zero offset wheel and had no rubbing in any situation. I later added a 1.25 back spacer (had them laying around) and had to trim a little more inner fender liner, which was no big deal.
Ive been running 285/75r17 it actually is the perfect size but I still want bigger tires 😂
We all do! 😆 🙌
Did you have to do the body mount chop there? I didn't hear you say anything in the modification section.
Yes, it’s actually the first mod I did. 🙌
BORA makes a .75" wheel spacer
👍🏻👍🏻
Would I have to make any other changes if I ran 34s with an 18 inch rim?? I strongly want 35s. But I do know the risks of doing so. I’m on a 3 inch true suspension lift with 33s on 18s. After watching this video I am convinced to run 34s being I do not do a whole lot of overlanding. But when I do, I love to have the tire capability to do so.
Do you have a body mount chop? You’ll likely need one to run 34’s with no rubbing.
@@aired-downoverland9239 I do not. I’ll have to do that
@@alechardesty4135 There are shops that do them, just do some local searching.
@@aired-downoverland9239 I probably would do them myself ! I have all the tools. But not a lift ..
Are guys in portland, oregon? I am not tech savvy. and i'm looking buying a used 2015 4runner 3 inch lift. I am wanting a pre buy check up and wanted to see if you guys can do that or recommend a mechanic to do a check make sure there's no major things going on.
Try JC Motors in Tualatin, OR.
Why not just remove your front sway bar. I heard of some ppl doing the sway bar delete on several vehicles like our 4R
If they weren’t daily drivers, I’d do it in a hot second. Another consideration for us is the fact we have a 2hr drive over a curvy mountain pass to get to our favorite local off-roading location.
What about 255/75/17?
That’s about an inch smaller (33.1”) and about an inch narrower (10”) than what I’m running. Still a good size for a 4Runner 🙌
With 285/75R17 did you have to do a BMC? Trying not to void my warranty just yet
A BMC was the first thing I did, and my 4Runner was brand new. I think without one you’ll have some running during articulation. Besides, it’s a 4Runner, you’ll never need to use the warranty 😉
What size lift are you guys running?
3” front, 2” rear 👍🏻
Could you fit the 34” tire under the vehicle in the spare tire carrier area?
Unfortunately no. On the positive side, I wonder if a spare is really needed when you’re running a high quality tire; I don’t know a single person that’s ever needed their spare 🤞🙌
What size lift are you running?
3 front, 2 rear
Question: what largest size tire you can fit to 5th gen T4R without doing any chopping, cutting etc mods and without it rubbing on any parts? 33”??
Yes, 33’s typically fit without issue.
Great, thanks for the swift reply. I’m approaching 50k on the stock tires, thinking of replacing them with a tad larger.
Same width I guess?
@@MVL5802 Yes. Wider tires provide little advantage in most Offroad terrain. There’s a great video on that subject on the channel Tinkers Adventure
Depends on your offset. You can probably do it with 0 offset wheels.
I run - 25 offset and get body mount rub with adjustable uca's, although only at 8psi and high energy impacts whilst turning.
Curious if your running a spacer on the Method 704’s considering a 0offset
I’ve run them with and without. The rig has been heavily tested without spacers and there is no rubbing. I have spacers on now and have no street driving rubbing, but I need to do some serious flexing to see if they’ll cause rubbing.
Is this with no lift?
It’s with 3” front and 2” rear
Will this tire size work on a 2 inch lift all around with a bmc? Currently on 285s
Should based on the fact a typical 4Runner suspension lift has no impact on tire fitment/rubbing, they simply push there tire down in the travel cycle but don’t increase the travel cycle UNLESS you move to a king travel set-up. Check out the channel Tinkers Adventure, he did a great video on this subject.
Thoughts on the baja boss 255/85r17? I think it measures out to 34.4 x 10.
I haven’t run them personally but know people that speak highly of them, people I trust. The high measurement is only ~1/2 off the mark for a 285/75, which isn’t surprising, but the width would be more than a full inch narrower; that seems odd and something I’d look into more. Shooting from the hip, if those measurements are correct, I would think they’d fit without rubbing.
@aired-downoverland9239 they would rub. you will need a bmc and viper. I run 255/80/17s on 17x8.5 -10 and I had to trim the front bumper a bit maybe 1inch or so. I was running 255/80/17s stock height on stock snowflakes no rubbing
35x10.5r17 end of story?
End of story for the perfect tire? Depends on the situation; there really is no perfect tire.
Why didnt you just use portals?
$$$ Wish I had that kind of money
What inch lift do you have on the second 4runner
Both have 3” front, 2” rear
Does this apply to a 2000 4Runner
Any vehicle with a rear panhard
What size of spare do you run? And does it fit where the original spare goes ?
It’s a 285/75 -17 and no, it will not fit in the stick spare location
Thank you for your response.
So are you running a steel rear bumper or just a tire swing gate in the tow receiver?@@aired-downoverland9239
what do you guys think about a 305/70/17? will it rub like the 315? right now i run a 315/70/17 and rub too much so i want to downsize
I’m not certain but my guess is you’ll still have rubbing; the 305 just isn’t that much smaller.
@@aired-downoverland9239 do you think i will have to do as much other stuff as with the 315? Will i have to worry as much about cv axels ect?
@@ashtonfera If you go 285/75 17, most of those concerns go away, especially if you do a front CV drop, which is super cheap and super easy to install.