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Also, is this better to do post lift? or during? or not matter?

Best way to tell is to put your vehicle on level ground, then look under the rear at your panhard rod. If it’s at an angle, and not flat, you would likely benefit from the correction bracket.

@@aired-downoverland9239 Awesome thank you!

Thank you very much. 18 months and 8 surgeries later and I’m well down the road of recovery. The slippery conditions of the winter aren’t a good place for me currently, but come spring we’ll be out again👍🏻👍🏻

First off, 35’s is a lot different than 34’s. I re-geared to 4.88’s with 34’s, going to 35’s without re-gearing would be a mistake in my opinion. Besides a BMC, I removed the stock mud flaps, did a high clearance cut on the front bumper cover, and trimmed the inner fender liner. If you have the same lift, you technically have mid-travel, as the front struts are longer than stock. Up travel is controlled by the bump stop, and sway bar to some degree. Remember, your total wheel travel (up/down) doesn’t change with an IFS lift, it pushes the tire down in the travel cycle, but doesn’t increase the travel cycle. Your mid-travel front struts are giving you a small amount of additional down travel. Hope that all makes sense, if not, shoot me a question.

@@aired-downoverland9239 I regeared to 4.56s a couple years back. It's been my favorite mod. Do you have video of what you did with the fender liner?

I don’t think I videoed that. The front fascia/bumper is referred to as a viper cut, you can find lots of videos on that. The fender liner was trial, trim, trial, trim.

I can’t answer that as I don’t know your skill set. Check out the manufacturers site, that should give you enough info to know if you can/want to do it. Their site is drkdss.com

Yup 👍🏻👍🏻

I think people’s experience has been that 33’s do not require a BMC.

@ that’s good to hear because I was between accutune control arms or iron man I’ll just buy a stage 3 system and have everything

That’s been in the plan; my list of “to do’s” is long. Is a rig ever fully built??? 👍🏻👍🏻

Great thing about tires is you can always wear out what you have and go with a new size next time, or sell them if they have good tread. My brother went with the 315/70 R17 (34.4x12.4) and has had several running issues. Toyota just isn’t making them to accept the big tires. 🙌

I have a 3” front, 2” rear. You can find the bracket at drkdss.com 👍🏻

You’ll be close, it’s an unfortunate “try it and see situation” since different tires and wheels seem to vary, even though they post their measurements. I’m a huge fan of the 285/75 R17. Those same K03’s will be my next tire 👍🏻👍🏻

I did for a while, but got tired of losing the beed at low pressure. Switch to Method’s with beed grip and haven’t had an issue since.

drkdss.com

@aired-downoverland9239 thank you for the reply, but I'm actually saying finding a Watts link is a good idea as well.

The best way to determine if it’s needed is to place the vehicle on flat ground, after you’ve done the lift, and see if your panhard is flat or at an angle. The bracket from drkdss.com will correct it if it’s at an angle 👍🏻

The best check is not the lift height. Put your rig in flat ground, then take a peek at your panhard to see if it rises from left axle mount to right frame mount. If it sitting at an angle the drkdss.com bracket can bring it back to stock (flat). 👍🏻👍🏻

Nice 👍🏻

I’ve never run that configuration, so I can’t answer for sure. Keep in mind, unless you go with mid or long travel, a lift has no impact +/- on tire clearance; your wheel is merely pushed down in the travel cycle, the total travel cycle is unchanged. 👍🏻

It’s made by RIGd and I have had zero issues with it on and off road

Ironman foam cell pro. I have an install video just for the suspension install. 👍🏻

@@aired-downoverland9239 I mean the pan hard bar leveling kit. I lifted it 3 or 4 years ago and never knew I needed to adjust the pan hard bar. Was is a BOTCK?

Mine is made by drkdss.com

Nice 👍

The mgr’s site is drkdss.com

I went to your channel to find other tips but found no content 🤷🏼‍♂️. If you had said, “you should torque everything with it sitting on the ground” I would have agreed, then told you it’s difficult to film that way. Having done this type of work countless times, I’m confident in what I’m doing.

@aired-downoverland9239 I am not trying to sound like I know it all because I dont. My observation was that it looked like the misalignment of the bolt was do to the tension caused by the wheels/axle hanging. I should've posed my comment more in the form of a question. I was not trying to be rude. I have an older Hilux Surf and Land Cruiser that I want to lift at some point. I want to do it right of course. I also dont want to do anything that isn't totally necessary. My position is basically this. As a mechanic, wouldn't you want your customers to ask questions and challenge you on an unconventional idea or installation?

Fair enough, I misread your comment. The short answer is, when modifying your suspension, do everything you can to maintain stick geometry…unless you have a specific reason not to. A 4Runner rear axle will move slightly side to side at full droop, but keeping the panhard flat when the vehicle is in the ground is the goal; you’ll get better road and trail manners. 👍🏻👍🏻

@aired-downoverland9239 I can agree with that. Thank you for putting videos like this out there.

I have a 2005 4Runner and have 400lbs on my roof and will be adding a steel bumper and winch this month and rock sliders next year. I need stronger coils but am looking to upgrade my shocks at the same time. I currently have the X-Reas suspension on my truck and really like how it rides, cause it’s my daily. So curious if these shocks are a comfortable ride like fox 2.0s or do the run rough in the daily drive zone like a digressive bilstein 5100?

On road they are exceptional. Off-road they are very good and as capable as most people will need. If you’re into Overlanding they’re more than enough. They don’t advertise this widely but they are actually mid-travel as the extended shock length is more than stock.

Thank you for the reply. Do you have experience with other shocks to kind of point me in the direction of how comfortable are these on the road like with bump compliance but at the same time not to much body role?

The closest comparison would be Bilsteins; my 4Runner rides better than my Camry and CX-5

Like the Bilstein 5100s?

Always good if geometry change doesn’t change road or trail handling.

Which lift kit did you go with?

The manufacturers site is drkdss.com

Yes, that is what you should do prior to using a lift to film so people can see what you’re doing.

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The best way to answer that question is to park your 4Runner on a flat surface, then check to see if your panhard bar is sitting horizontal, or does it sit at an angle. If at an angle this bracket from drkdss.com can help.

Thank you Gear Crushers. We used to live in Bermingham MI; we have moved there from California and quickly learned what a winter really was. 😄🙌

The manufacturers site is drkdss.com 🤙

I hear ya. Lifting is something I due to meet a need, not looks. I think a stock 4Runner looks, and drives, amazing. Congrats on your 2024 🤙

You can find it on the manufacturers website, drkdss.com

I have an Ironman 4x4 3” lift, and have trimmed the fender liner and done a body mount chop. I also have method 17x8.5 wheels.

For best geometry, yes

🙌 Thank you

Yes, if you lift the rear the bracket is still needed to correct the geometry (bring the panhard back to a flat position on level ground). The adjustment of the panhard is used to center the rear axle under the vehicle. 👍🏻

It stands for Southern Style Offroad, but lots of people make these plates. 🙌

Another good option 👍🏻

The short answer is yes, but you want to start from zero. Thx for watching 🙌

The mfr’s site is drkdss.com 🙌

I wish it were easier to fit the size you want on Toyota’s.

Are you asking a question? Making a statement? If your comment is about the 4Runner it’s pretty obvious it’s a 5th gen.

The rotational mass of the heavier tire/wheel set-up will have some impact on your MPGs, but it’s hard to stay stock when there are so many ways to personalize your rig. Have fun with your Tacoma build 🙌

The mfr’s site is drkdss.com

Like drkdss.com?

I think it comes down to two things 1) personal preference 2) Are you building your rig for a purpose. In my case it’s primarily the second, however, you are correct in that many people move forward with modifications without research. That said, like many people, I love that I can both modify and maintain my rig myself. 👍🏻

@@aired-downoverland9239should I lift my rig with the 3inch rough country lift kit with two spacers?

There is a lot to consider before lifting a vehicle. For me, I’m lifting to create capability, and I understand the potential risks; everyone should know what they’re getting into. Few lifts come complete with everything you need, including my Ironman 4x4 kit.

@@aired-downoverland9239 Right on After four wheeling since the 60's I need feel, not lift.

The mfr’s site is drkdss.com 👍🏻