SNOW vs LOCK vs AUTO - Suzuki Vitara 1.4T All Grip on ice & snow - 4WD control
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Test drive on ice and snow - Suzuki Vitara 1.4T All Grip Select.
SNOW, LOCK & AUTO modes - indications of 4WD, current control, transfer oil, differentials speeds, accelerator, wheel speeds.
Info:
4WD (%) is not an indication of torque distribution. That is control duty ratio - PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation).
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This is the most detailed info i can find for all grip
very good job
also if you can do as many videos as you can with this app ,that would really be nice
Thank you for the video. good luck.
Good :) Suzuki best!
i like this video. Do more like this
Perfect video now I know much more how to use it
Thanks, there's more better and more detailed videos about All Grip Select on our channel 🙂
Allgrip 💚💚💚
Wow, that's some quality comparison test!
But for the non-expert like myself, what is the conclusion?
What is the difference between Snow and Lock? When to disable the ESP?
Snow is soft, low torque mode. Smooth start, not much wheelspin, strong ESP intervention. Lock is aggressive, high torque mode which allows for wheelspin. If you need high torque but with limited wheelspin - then LOCK with ESP OFF.
Great video. Thank you! I have just bought the new 2019 Vitara 1.4 Sz5 Allgrip! In the UK they come with summer tyres and wondering if they would still be ok in the same type of weather and conditions as shown in the video. I'm not expecting to drive through feet of snow but any extra help in the snow with these tyres would be a big help.
I recommed to use some winter tyres or at least all season tyres. Summer ones won't be ok on any snowy or icy roads, All Grip won't make it easier.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks very much 😊
I just put crossclimate on mine ideal for the UK ,in our snow a week or so ago i actually tried to get stuck hilly roads and couldn't
@@mjg123mg Crossclimates are all season tyres based on summer tyres. They will keep you going, but braking on slippery roads won't be nice. For more snowy driving it is better to choose all season tyres based on winter tyres. All depends on the weather you have.
I had Crossclimate on Vitara and been trough pretty rough winters with no problem, braking on snow is no problem, i changed them in october after 4 years at 70 000 km, now i have vredestein quatrac and i am curios if they will last at least 50 000 km since the cost was 25% less than crossclimate.
Very precise. Actually a bit more than I can understand. Can you explain in WORDS the conclusion? I thought the LOCK system were a full 4-wheel diff lock. I`snt that so?
Lock isn't locking the diffs, this kind of cars do not have lockers (front and rear). And they usually do not have center diff at all, but a multiplate clutch-pack, which you may lock at low speeds by choosing the Lock mode. In case of Vitara it is a little bit different - Lock mode means permanent awd, but with variable torque split (from ~70/30 to ~50/50).
@@marcuscasagrande7596 Lock mode is powerfull. Awd system is engaged all the time. With ESP ON it allows for a lot of high torque wheelspin (TC works hard not to slow the wheels down, but to equalize their rotational speeds), with ESP OFF the TC brakes the wheels faster (less wheelspin), but still there is high torque. Snow mode is the opposite - very smooth, low torque, sensitive ESP, standard TC. And it is not awd all the time.
How did you get all that information about the car in the screen corner??? Also a suggestion, put some duct tape on the sidewall of the tire in order to better show the wheels spinning and the difference between the front and rear tires, similar like when they do crash testing.
Information is read from car's computer by application for Suzuki called SZ Viewer.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers very nice really! Good job! Only the app is required or is there a component as well?
@@e-bikerides4618 Some bluetooth OBD 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks! Do you have other videos with this loger equipped??
@@e-bikerides4618 Sure, here they are:
th-cam.com/video/Q0XTbfUuAmw/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/N_SCul259hc/w-d-xo.html
Very good !
Do you know, on torque ratio front/rear, the most % allgrip can send on rear wheels ? (Maybe on sport mode?)
Thanks
This is interesting to: th-cam.com/video/peAxt6ZkYLA/w-d-xo.html
When it comes to torque split, max static is 50/50, max dynamic is ~0/100.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks ! What do you mean with static ans dynamic? (Sorry i’m not a pro 😉)
Can we compare sport mode with the feeling of an fabulous subaru impreza (on snow fun driving, drifting)
Thanks !
@@xtremecameras Static means that maximum which system can do by itself is locking together front and rear axles, so it's 50/50. But if we add dynamic terms like weight transfer and grip (friction cooficient) then the range is from ~100/0 to ~0/100 (for example: front wheels on black ice, rear wheels on dry pavement - then ~100% of torque goes to the rear, however it doesn't mean rwd biased characteristics). When it comes to Impreza - it depends which kind of S-AWD system you mean. The one in Vitara is similar to Subaru ACT-4 (ATS). They are fwd biased but snow drifting is possible 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thanks many ! I unterstand 👏. My impreza, 2.0D manual was so fun on snow, difficult to find a similary car today (except expensive sport car)
@@xtremecameras Manuals have different awd systems. CVT/4EAT have the system similar to Vitara 🙂
Ile czasu masz te auto? Jak chodzi silnik? Czy trzeba obawiać się nagaru - jest to turbo z bezpośrednim wtryskiem, te silniki są wrażliwe, szczególnie w VAG ;)
Fajny jest ten model.
Trzy lata. Silnik chodzi super, fajna dynamika (znacznie lepsza niż dane katalogowe), a jak trzeba to i ze spalaniem można zejść poniżej 5l. Z nagarem żadnych problemów - po 60 000 kilometrów jest czysto :)
Dziwi mnie fakt, ze mało Vitary widzę w Japonii. Za to bardzo duzo Jimmy. Nowe tez juz sie pojawiaja, szczegolnie w malych gorskich miejscowosciach.
Suzuki zakupilo prawa do hybryd z Toyoty, wiec niedlugo pojawia sie ciekawe modele.
5-dzwiowy Jimmy w hybrydzie i standardowym AWD pewnie by osiagnal swiatowy sukces ;)
@@valdius85 Będą Rav4 oraz Corolla pod logiem Suzuki oraz Baleno, Vitara Brezza, Ciaz i Ertiga pod logiem Toyoty. Suzuki wykorzysta technologie hybrydowe Toyoty, natomiast Toyota wykorzysta silniki Suzuki. A silniki produkowane będą w Polsce :)
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 5-drzwiowe Jimmy na płycie RAV4, z eCVT i AWD z Suzuki jest wiec możliwe :)
Wtedy świat otrzyma hybrydowa, tania wersje G-wagona.
This software SZ Viewer indicates also motor oil temperature, eventually also oil temp of automatic transmission ?
Unfortunately no...
Edit: newest version is showing these values.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers OK, thanks
Sorry for the trouble, can you tell me which brand of elm327 is compatible with Vitara 2020? Thank you.
Probably each new one :)
Thanks
Hi, I'm Andrea, sorry how do you recover the data? Do you use an OBD? view on smartphone? Can you tell me what kind of OBD? Thanks, it's very kind of you.
Hi. I used simple bluetooh OBD - ELM327 and SZ Viewer app, view on smartphone.
Grazie!
Eclipse cross or vitara?which one do you prefer?
Both are OK. Eclipse Cross is bigger, it has 20 cm longer wheelbase. If you consider 4WD versions then Vitara is much more fuel efficient.
I want a video for torq seperation at snowy turn and twisty roads with suzuki vitara at sz viewer
Doğukan ÇAY What do you mean by torque separation?
duszaniespokojna firstly sorry about my bad english and ı try to mean torque distribution at front axle and rear axle at snowy turns. I hope you will do that at sport mode for sliding and drifting so enjoyable:)
@@dogukancay Now I understand :) But SZ Viewer (or even Suzuki service software) is not showing torque distribution.
duszaniespokojna there is no problem at all ıf you show to suzuki vitara awd systems working principle at turns and sliding or like to track driving that will enough to me for see the vitara’s awd systems chrasteristics at heavy conditons and can it do smile effect at our face
@@dogukancay I'll see what I can do, just have to wait for more snow :)
When do you recomend to turn off the ESP ?
It depends what car you ask.
Did you consider chip tuning your vitara?
Nope, no need for that.
Or did you know someone who did chiptune and whats experience with reliability and power output?
@@xjackfighter Unfortunately I don't know anybody. There are some people on Suzuki forums who did that.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ok thank you very much
What is the indication program?
@Vodkins SZ Viewer
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers thx!
How did you do rollers?
What do you mean?
How can I make rollers like these?
@@imax1934 A lot of personal work...
could you at least tell me the necessary material? I'm sorry if I'm disturbing, thank you.
@@imax1934 I'm sorry, but I am getting so many questions about it that by default I am not answering them, don't get me wrong 🙂
Cosa rappresenta il valore 4wd % ?
PWM - pulse width modulation. Parameter responsible for clutch-pack compression.
so sad to see "Lock" does not engage clutch pack completely eliminating friction and there will be an overheating in heavy conditions... :(
It will lock the clutch-pack if you add more throttle.
Can sz viewer work with any obd2 scanner?
Tkx for your fantastic video
@@jeansong1 I don't know, please ask the author of the app.
Schwachsinn
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There is no point in watching this at all
If you are not interested what awd system is doing then yes, there is no point.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It just didn't help at all in any way. Worst video ever by the worst TH-camr ever. And really your comment should have read 'then no, there is no point'. I would rather watch paint drying to be honest. Watching your boring video left me sad and depressed.
@@sodd1000 Car starting on ice and tarmac, driving on snow with different awd modes engaged, live data from awd controller. What's your problem? I already know that you have no idea what does these live numbers say, that I could explain if you asked. But I can't heal your life frustrations which you revealed in your previous comment.
PS. If you want to make comments about a foreign language then firstly correct your sentence: "your comment should have read".
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I have added your video to my list of boring videos to fall to sleep to. You getting the words yes and no muddled up was the only part of this that entertained me. Anyway, I am off to watch some more videos so I can go to sleep again. So dull, I am feeling sleepy...
@@sodd1000 Feel free to inform all commentators below how boring and bad this video is. I'll pin your comment at the top so any new viewer will be warned how useless the video is.