Thank you I enjoyed watching this video and I get a full understanding. I was curious because at the boxing gym I go to a certified Gracie jujitsu instructor teaches a class and I was interested in learning Jujitsu to learn some ground game so I can have my striking and grappling.
@@macaluso48 you're as delusional as people who think tai chi or wing chun would work in a street fight. GJJ brown belts wouldn't be able to hang with a regular BJJ blue belt. GJJ people barely train, get ranked on attendance and don't even spar till blue belt. And the sparring is terrible. The strike emulation isn't real either. At most, the bullyproof system is good for kids. Take it from me, I've trained in both.
I started training Gracie Jiujitsu because of the street fighting aspect of the art! I grew up in the Eastend of London So I needed something that could deal with all aspects of fighting.. (with no rules) but the thing that has kept me in good stead has been the Head butts & elbows from the clinch.. and situational awareness! I’m so grateful for the art whether sport or street! But I’m definitely all For the street Gracie Jiujitsu side of the art!
Thanks for commenting and I definitely think all martial artists should be well rounded and I'm glad to know you are enjoying your training and keeping it real.
Gracie Barra Is still in gracie lineage or diverged from It? I know about rivality between carlos gracie and the other members of gracie family, but did carlos got another style?
They were all Gracie Jiu Jitsu and had family rivalries but would stick up for each other, fight with each other just as so many families do. Now the Gracie name is all from the same original lineage but many of the siblings and children have a dscerning difference in their name Gracie Barrs, Gracie Humaita, Renzo Gracie, Carlos Gracie Jr., Roger etc. Same roots but now different branches and approaches to what they focus on. It is a BIG family.
Sport BJJ looks flashy and cool but it's sport. It's not self defense. No concern for strikes. They think they're also learning self defense because it's BJJ but it's not. I'm GJJ all the way because I'm a self defense guy, first. I started as a (sports guy unknowingly) because BJJ is all the same right? I'm about practicality, efficiency and natural body movements. They are creating all this new exotic guards and submissions to win (like a nuclear arms race) because the way we do jiu jitsu now is MISSING something???
@@markcukrojiujitsu2322It gets even more crazy.. Don’t forget about the Machado side of the family - the Machado brothers! And they have their lineage and black belts under them as well…. And there is another name I can remember now….
@@c6h11no7 All traditional forms of Jujitsu have these things and they are actually a lot better. The “self defense” side of the family all marketed their art through competition. Helio has a huge history of competition fights and was well known for all of that. His sons do as well. They were all top level competitors. The self defense was something they added later. The knife defense, gun defense, club defense and punch defense was not taught to them by Maeda guaranteed. It is good that they teach it but it is something they put together off absorbing it from other older styles. The techniques they show are demonstration techniques. Their art is not different from any of the other major “competition” schools as people like to call them. It all comes from the exact same place. They all learned together. Also yes they do teach punch and kick defense during warm ups at the “competition” schools. The only difference in training “self defense” and “competition” is in self defense the idea is your attacker is not trained. In competition training the idea is that your opponent is trained. They are at your level and size. So really if you’re training with the idea that you’re gonna use your skill against someone who isn’t trained, you don’t need much skill. Training for competition you go way deeper. It’s a silly debate. I love both sides and have trained for most of my life.
Yes! "Think Street, Train Sport, Practice Art" - Chris Haueter
100%! Chris is an old school pioneer and inspiration
Thank you I enjoyed watching this video and I get a full understanding. I was curious because at the boxing gym I go to a certified Gracie jujitsu instructor teaches a class and I was interested in learning Jujitsu to learn some ground game so I can have my striking and grappling.
I am glad you appreciate the video and explanation. Hopefully, you'll find the training you are looking for!
Awesome, thank you.
Totally agree, Gracie jui jitsu makes more sense ❤
no it doesnt. sport bjj fighters will survive far more in the streets than a GJJ fighter
@@RoZaxTheGreatlol wrong gjj is self defense and sport sport is just the rolling nonsense defens e
@@macaluso48 you're as delusional as people who think tai chi or wing chun would work in a street fight. GJJ brown belts wouldn't be able to hang with a regular BJJ blue belt. GJJ people barely train, get ranked on attendance and don't even spar till blue belt. And the sparring is terrible. The strike emulation isn't real either. At most, the bullyproof system is good for kids.
Take it from me, I've trained in both.
@@RoZaxTheGreatyeah, guard pulling and but scooting is soooo effective
@@RoZaxTheGreatYeah, the butt scooting is so effective it works in MMA, right? lol. Yeah…..
I'm under a Pedro Valente of Gracie Miami and we focus strictly on self-defense
The Valente brothers have a fantastic self-defense program and are as good as it gets with that curriculum.
@@markcukrojiujitsu2322 been under them since 2005 I used to be a bouncer too and jiu jitsu was so helpful
@@markcukrojiujitsu2322 all right they focus on a Helio Gracie's classic system
So basically Gracie JJ makes more emphasis on the mindset that your opponent is coming at you with the intention to kill with or without weapons?
That's a fair way to look at it.
@markcukrojiujitsu2322 Does the Self defense put emphasis on training stand up grappling and preventing yourself from going to the ground?
@@Charles-nc4zj Yes, whenever possible, avoid going to the ground and if you do, get up or get on top quickly.
THIS! @@markcukrojiujitsu2322
I started training Gracie Jiujitsu because of the street fighting aspect of the art!
I grew up in the Eastend of London
So I needed something that could deal with all aspects of fighting.. (with no rules) but the thing that has kept me in good stead has been the Head butts & elbows from the clinch.. and situational awareness!
I’m so grateful for the art whether sport or street!
But I’m definitely all For the street Gracie Jiujitsu side of the art!
Thanks for commenting and I definitely think all martial artists should be well rounded and I'm glad to know you are enjoying your training and keeping it real.
Good video. It’s unfortunate that this topic has to be controversial…. But it is what it is..
Thank you, for sure! Thank you for commenting!
Thank you!
You are very welcome!
Gracie Barra Is still in gracie lineage or diverged from It? I know about rivality between carlos gracie and the other members of gracie family, but did carlos got another style?
They were all Gracie Jiu Jitsu and had family rivalries but would stick up for each other, fight with each other just as so many families do. Now the Gracie name is all from the same original lineage but many of the siblings and children have a dscerning difference in their name Gracie Barrs, Gracie Humaita, Renzo Gracie, Carlos Gracie Jr., Roger etc. Same roots but now different branches and approaches to what they focus on. It is a BIG family.
Gracie Barra has an organized self defense curriculum too.
Sport BJJ looks flashy and cool but it's sport. It's not self defense. No concern for strikes. They think they're also learning self defense because it's BJJ but it's not. I'm GJJ all the way because I'm a self defense guy, first. I started as a (sports guy unknowingly) because BJJ is all the same right? I'm about practicality, efficiency and natural body movements. They are creating all this new exotic guards and submissions to win (like a nuclear arms race) because the way we do jiu jitsu now is MISSING something???
@@markcukrojiujitsu2322It gets even more crazy.. Don’t forget about the Machado side of the family - the Machado brothers! And they have their lineage and black belts under them as well…. And there is another name I can remember now….
@@nmr20067 Ah yes, that is true too! Thanks for mentioning that.
Nobody is going to follow any rules in a street fight. Suprise.
Thanks for watching and commenting on a totally different topic! I'll be sure to make a post on that too. :)
Nothing!!!!!!!! 🙄
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment!
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I haven't seen weapons disarming and extensive punch block series at other places outside of Gracie JJ. It's pretty rare if you do, so good for you.
@@c6h11no7 All traditional forms of Jujitsu have these things and they are actually a lot better. The “self defense” side of the family all marketed their art through competition. Helio has a huge history of competition fights and was well known for all of that. His sons do as well. They were all top level competitors. The self defense was something they added later. The knife defense, gun defense, club defense and punch defense was not taught to them by Maeda guaranteed. It is good that they teach it but it is something they put together off absorbing it from other older styles. The techniques they show are demonstration techniques. Their art is not different from any of the other major “competition” schools as people like to call them. It all comes from the exact same place. They all learned together. Also yes they do teach punch and kick defense during warm ups at the “competition” schools. The only difference in training “self defense” and “competition” is in self defense the idea is your attacker is not trained. In competition training the idea is that your opponent is trained. They are at your level and size. So really if you’re training with the idea that you’re gonna use your skill against someone who isn’t trained, you don’t need much skill. Training for competition you go way deeper. It’s a silly debate. I love both sides and have trained for most of my life.
@@c6h11no7 Thank you and I haven't either. I would prefer my students learn all ranges and it is fun to do too.