this video describes the innovations and the workings of the new Timney trigger it is not a review it is based on information and education I hope you enjoy it.
Fantastic review. Love seeing a knowledgeable guy going through another really innovative product and being non-biased and honest. That's been lost by the majority of the world.
Nice video John and your honest appraisal of it speaks volumes about your professional ethics. The Timney looks nice but I will continue to support you with my business
I see this more as a competition piece rather than a defensive style. I trust my jg’s with my life. I would be interested in more gen 5 specific videos.
Thanks for a great video Johnny, you are the foremost authority on Glocks in my humble opinion and your willingness to share knowlegeable and unbiased information on anything Glock, even products from your own competitors is AWESOME! I have been thinking about getting one of the Timney triggers since I first heard about them, and your review and insight has my mind made up to get one for one of my competition pistols. By the way, I have one of your triggers for my Gen 5 G34, and love it. Thanks for all the info you share and all of the fine triggers you make available for all of us aficionados of Glock pistols!
I did the timney trigger on the shadow systems Glock everything you said Is 100% right I definitely had connector drag I greased and Tweaked ghost connector as well wish I had seen your videos first I drop in and installed and removed 6 times thank you for video help
if you are using your Glock for target or competition then you can tinker alot with it, but if its for defence the most i recommend you to do is to polish everything, lighten the plunger spring, and put in a minus trigger bar connector to smoothen the trigger. It improves accuracy very much without reducing safety. I once attempting to reduce trigger pull reduce the striker spring and increased the crucible spring and in the process affected the reset that it would not fully engage. When i tried to remove a live round from the chamber by racking the slide, the striker went off firing the bullet. Scared the hell out of me. Never did that again. Stay safe. Enjoy the sport.
The only opinion that matters, Jonny Glock. It remind me of a vp9 trigger. They basically took that design and made it drop in for Glock. Your really upping the camera game. The audio sounds great and the new angles are working great also.
So the Timney trigger does 3 things. 1) pulling the trigger no longer includes completing the rearward travel of the striker with compression of the firing pin spring. 2) replaces the stamped steel “sear” with what looks like a hardened steel sear. 3) adds a spring for trigger return since the striker no longer moves part way forward (as much?) as the slide returns to battery. 👏 And kudos to Johnny for his through and excellent explanation of how it works!
I put the Timney trigger in my wife’s Gen 3 G19 last week. Smooth, minimal take-up compared to OEM and crisp, clean break and reset. Despite the fact that she hasn’t dry fired her gun in months, my wife could tell the difference immediately. Thanks for your honest assessment.
Thank you as always Johnny! It's interesting to see Timney's take on the Glock trigger. The way the sear drops directly downward reminded me quite a bit of a bolt action rifle trigger - I'm sure this is no coincidence. Thanks again man.
I use oil lots of oil, but I was unaware that you recommend grease. So I’m going to order some grease and use it on a couple of 19s I have. I have two of the Timney triggers that I am going to reconfigure based on your recommendations. Thanks for the informational video as there are some other individuals that are putting things out about Timney triggers are unsafe.
Johnny Glocks you are a gentleman and a scholar!! Great video! I just got mine. You have the best information on Glock triggers, bar none! I want to take this to the next level and am excited for your next video!
so basically the timny trigger converts it from double action (drawing the striker back and releasing) to a 1911 like single action where the trigger just releases the sear/striker! very cool
It's going to pop and fizzle, then stick around. People have been begging for Glock innovation, but Glock's are successful due to their simplicity. Glock's simpler design, albeit not by much, is simpler. Glock thrives on simplicity. Glock's design is too cemented due to its simplicity for most people to get permanently excited enough over a "Better" trigger. The Timney trigger introduces new safety protocols that most will not be familiar with. I'll probably still buy one though. I do like to tinker. BTW, Johnny, your Combat trigger is nice, very nice. I should have bought your striker too. And, thanks for showing us how this trigger works. I was suspicious as to why Timney didn't explain how it works, being so innovative.
You could also go with a stronger (heavier) striker spring without noticeably affecting trigger pull. Nice consequence considering the limited availability and variety of primers right now.
Thanks for the videos. You’ve got the best videos on this trigger. I was having some of the reset issues on my Gen 4 Timney trigger. Tweaked a connector and will try some grease 👍🏼
Great detailed video. I would be very uncomfortable with a trigger where the sear is not attached to the cruciform and only held up by a spring which could get stuck in operation in even the cleanest gun with the smallest amount of dirt. To me this is -1 of the glock safeties - give me the shelf every day of the year.
Sometimes with more moving parts you lessen the degree of wear and or tension on other parts so the saying less parts is better is not always the case when good engineerring is involved.
Once again awesome video . The Timney is a pretty cool innovative trigger. I’m going to stick with your awesome trigger System . It seems to me with the Timney trigger being a 3 pound pull it would be competition use only.
My EDC is a PSA G19 slide with tritium night sights, fullsize frame and polished P80 trigger bar and flat faced P80 shoe, extended magazine grip, not extended mag. I love this combo and never have had a failure out of many range trips.
Great video! Was interested to see what you thought about the safety of the trigger especially the drop shelf safety being negated but the Timney built in sear. Your honesty and unbiased review of the product will earn you more customers in the future. You’re the best!
The funny thing is I used to set mine up like a 2 stage with a wall on the dot connector and heavy trigger spring and light firing pin safety spring. Now after shooting the s3g in my ar for years I now use factory trigger spring, factory firing pin spring and a ghost connector for the surprise break on rapid fire with no wall. I might even add a ny spring to be more of a combat trigger.
I feel like the new trigger return spring is introducing a fairly substantial failure point. IIRC, CZ DA/SA guns use a similar return spring, and they tend to break after 10,000-15,000 trigger pulls (dryfire included).
Good point. Im thinking this is a bit of a unnecessarily complicated step towards that 1911 trigger. Interesting though. Perhaps a more robust trigger retun spring??
Every hammer fired CZ I've owned has had the TRS replaced with a Cajun Gun Works springs. I order the springs when I initially bring the gun home as it's a given that in a matter of a couple weeks the spring will break and then I replace it.
Being fully cocked I’d make sure my safety plunger was in good shape and had a full strength plunger spring installed. If it slips the plunger is going to take a pretty good whack.
I highly recommend CV-2 grease. It's inexpensive and is the best grease I've ever used by far. ($15 for a tub that will last for 1000s and 1000s of guns, because you need so little and it works so well. Also lasts forever... literally.)
@@P0wderMonkey It's best used on sliding parts (like rails/barrels). You only need a tiny amount. You can put it on action parts that aren't going to be fowled up also (parts at the back of the gun). Some people coat the outside of their barrel also (with a very thin layer) and the locking block (which is that one forward pin on a P320)... and then oil can be used normally. It's always good to verify, test and experiment too. I'm not a professional. I've just heard it from professionals and other people I know have tried it. There are people that put it on and then wipe it off completely, as it will still leave an extremely thin layer on the parts and reduce friction better when coupled with oil (compared to oil alone). I think it's better to have a little more than that though, because it lifts the fowling off the parts to better lubricate them and stops them from fowling... and can make it so any fowling will just wipe off with a cloth (without needing any cleaners). I'm sure there are gun designs that benefit from it more than others, so it's good to use judgement on pros and cons. (Like I would test it on a Ruger 10/22 bolt first, because 22lr has a lot less power to recoil the bolt and is also a dirty ammo compared to center-fire rounds).... and also, if it doesn't work well, you have to disassemble the gun to clean the bolt off. I've never seen it not work well though. (It's not like Frog Lube, so it shouldn't give you any problems).
Agreed, incredibly innovative. I'd be more interested in it if they made it for a 43/48. I'm sightly worried about the internals of the drop in, though.
So instead of pushing back slightly then camming-out, it just slides down like it was camming-out. That's is pretty trick! Which means you could go for a heavier pin spring and have a very similar trigger!
I would check your spacer sleeve after heavy use of this, that's the only thing that's a little weak that's right there and I've had some break on me just by pushing them down to take the slide plate off.
I went to buy some Hinge Pin Jelly today and it turns out that Clenzoil just discontinued that product. The replacement is Synthetic Gun Grease Syringe. Just an FYI. Great video Johnny!
This is a copy of my original comment on Johnny's other Timney trigger video: I want to make this comment because I installed my Timney trigger last night and have some feedback. It was installed in a P80 G19 version, and I noticed a couple of things, 1. The wall is way too flimsy if you want to carry with this trigger. The wall is so easy to break through that it is unsatisfying, to me, and it's almost as if there's no trigger at all. 2. After pulling the trigger and hand cycling the slide back, then forward, the striker wouldn't catch on the sear completely and the striker would fire again meaning, there were two fires during one trigger pull and this happened maybe 15% of the time. I don't know if this means two shots would have fired had there been live rounds in the mag. The trigger was trying to reset/reengage but would slip, causing that famous striker twang sound. I was using a P80 trigger housing, a 4.5 lbs striker spring, and all polished and cleaned components. I did not polish the Timney, however. Prior, this P80 was a successful build using Glock, or Glock copy components, and firing it several times at the range. So I'm near 100% certain that it was built correctly. I am considering selling the trigger, or roughing up some of the metal surfaces to cause drag, and/or install a different connector. The connector used was a standard 5-5.5lbs Glock copy connector bar. The angle of the bar was correct, as far as I know. I've had to resolve issues with connector angles, so I am fairly certain the angle was good.
I put a little grease on the right side of the trigger shoe because of little friction... it will get the trigger shoe action a lot smoother... I use a minus connector, reduce safety plunger spring, and i am pulling about 2.2/2.4 lbs trigger pull. That what i did on mine beside lubricating the parts that was discuss and the loctite on the screw at the bottom of the receiver
As far as I understand, Glock has intentionally designed to keep the striker spring not under tension as a way to add to drop safety. Many firestriker guns, such as Springfield XD/m/s models have their striker spring compressed and ready to go forward when the sear falls. But with Glocks, and, I believe, by design, they want the spring to tighten as the trigger is pulled. So, these triggers, although interesting, get around this feature, but then they effectively "disable" an important design consideration of the Glock drop safety (the other consideration of the drop safety is that the trigger bar/cruciform is following a predetermined channel in the trigger housing). What are your thoughts on this, Johnny?
My Timney trigger bar stamping is very very rough at rhe connector contact ledge and the safety plunger ledge. I was very surprised to see how rough the stamping is, and that Timney didn't smooth these contact surfaces prior to coating the trigger bar. I will be contacting them to see if they will do anything about it.
Great video Did buy one before I saw this. Just tried it in a Nomad 9 with several different connectors I have and the only one that worked was the stock connector. I'm not getting the trigger hang up you were showing. I am measuring 2 1/2 lbs on a standard connector.
I think your looking for metal on metal contact points lol. Innovations like this are the ones that redefine entire segments it forces other brands to think outside the box as well. plus for how expensive it was to design and manufacture these at the price they charge is incredible. Every single other trigger company simply improves and refines Glocks blue print can’t wait to see what’s next these other companies will e forced to step it up. Nice to see your praise a competitor and colleague with an honest review Nd respect for the design you could have easily pointed out any perceived flaws and didn’t I like the direction they’re going to take the entire market
It's a huge improvement.....however if you add the Vex shoe, it turns out even better. Vex shoe is the best , well worth the money in my opinion. It's as close to a perfect glock trigger as you can get.
All of my Glocks have some sort of carry/defense purpose. If I had a race gun this would be tempting, but since my purpose and training with Glocks is oriented towards defense I’ll stick with the stock system. Your triggers and Apex are the only aftermarket solutions I would trust to be bombproof.
I’m both excited and pissed off about this trigger. I had my own design for a fully cocked Glock trigger I was working on. Blew my mind that nobody had tried offering that before, the partially cocked striker is clearly the weak point for a light reliable trigger. Congrats to Timney for thinking about something different.
30 minutes of holy information! Will this Timney Alpha Trigger work with double diamond connector or should be strictly OEM part from Glock? After three years of psychological torture, malfunctions, and disappointments I decided to get rid of my "crappy" Glock pyramid trigger! So, the only part that could remain would be the connector from them and I was wondering if it's a good combination. BTW, mine is G-34 gen 4. Many Thanks
How is the bottom half of the sear engagement drop safe if you only need to overcome the spring tension? The ledge no longer even matters. Drop it hard enough on the grip and it could go bang.
Is there a chance of the Timney alpha competition for glock 19 gen 5, to disarm the firing pin due to a drop from a chest height? Once this trigger makes the gun to get full coked (I mean 100% of the firing on the set ready strike position)... This situation wouldnt cause a incidental shot, because of the safety plunger pin, but it would set the gun not ready for fire... even with the ammo set on the chamber... Has anyone done this test?
A man who is comfortable enough with his own products to actually compliment a competitor.
It’s hard not to complement Timney. I have a few of their triggers for rifles. And they are always a pleasure to use.
It shows a lot of class.
Amazing.
He works with them
You are a great ambassador for Glock, they should put you on the payroll, we learn so much about Glocks from you.
The Steve Buscemi of Glocks.
Perfect - LMAO
Fantastic review. Love seeing a knowledgeable guy going through another really innovative product and being non-biased and honest. That's been lost by the majority of the world.
HE WHIPPED OUT THE BLAZER
YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA GET SERIOUS
And with multicam pants! Let it be said Johny knows fashion.
@@toddmajorowicz801 😂😂
@@toddmajorowicz801 Get that man a multicam blazer, soonest!
needs a flat top hair cut
This is by far the best video explaining how these triggers work.
Nice video John and your honest appraisal of it speaks volumes about your professional ethics. The Timney looks nice but I will continue to support you with my business
I see this more as a competition piece rather than a defensive style. I trust my jg’s with my life. I would be interested in more gen 5 specific videos.
If you can make an Innovated Product like the Timney, the Glock Community deserves you, so all praise from the aftermarket parts makers
Thanks for a great video Johnny, you are the foremost authority on Glocks in my humble opinion and your willingness to share knowlegeable and unbiased information on anything Glock, even products from your own competitors is AWESOME! I have been thinking about getting one of the Timney triggers since I first heard about them, and your review and insight has my mind made up to get one for one of my competition pistols. By the way, I have one of your triggers for my Gen 5 G34, and love it. Thanks for all the info you share and all of the fine triggers you make available for all of us aficionados of Glock pistols!
Mr GQ looking sharp in the dinner jacket!
I did the timney trigger on the shadow systems Glock everything you said Is 100% right I definitely had connector drag I greased and Tweaked ghost connector as well wish I had seen your videos first I drop in and installed and removed 6 times thank you for video help
Excellent video! Promoting others in the community and acknowledging their work is something the gun community is lacking for some crazy reason.
Glad I watched this in it’s entirety. Think I’ll wait for the kinks to get worked out before considering a purchase.
if you are using your Glock for target or competition then you can tinker alot with it, but if its for defence the most i recommend you to do is to polish everything, lighten the plunger spring, and put in a minus trigger bar connector to smoothen the trigger. It improves accuracy very much without reducing safety. I once attempting to reduce trigger pull reduce the striker spring and increased the crucible spring and in the process affected the reset that it would not fully engage. When i tried to remove a live round from the chamber by racking the slide, the striker went off firing the bullet. Scared the hell out of me. Never did that again. Stay safe. Enjoy the sport.
The only opinion that matters, Jonny Glock. It remind me of a vp9 trigger. They basically took that design and made it drop in for Glock. Your really upping the camera game. The audio sounds great and the new angles are working great also.
Thank you for making this video, I truly learned a lot and I always wanted to know how the inner parts work.
Is it just me or is Johnny by far the most knowledgeable “Glock Guy” on TH-cam??
So the Timney trigger does 3 things. 1) pulling the trigger no longer includes completing the rearward travel of the striker with compression of the firing pin spring. 2) replaces the stamped steel “sear” with what looks like a hardened steel sear. 3) adds a spring for trigger return since the striker no longer moves part way forward (as much?) as the slide returns to battery. 👏
And kudos to Johnny for his through and excellent explanation of how it works!
So the gun is fully-cocked with the Timney instead of semi-cocked with the base trigger?...🤔
I put the Timney trigger in my wife’s Gen 3 G19 last week. Smooth, minimal take-up compared to OEM and crisp, clean break and reset. Despite the fact that she hasn’t dry fired her gun in months, my wife could tell the difference immediately. Thanks for your honest assessment.
My man can’t even talk bad about this trigger. I already knew it was bomb, but mad respect for Johnny on how he reviewed it.
Johnny G! Always a pleasure watching you dissect and inspect. Thanks for your insight...
So it's creeping closer to a 1911.... I've learned the mods on my g21.4 and I'm sticking with it. Thanks for the video!
Thank you as always Johnny!
It's interesting to see Timney's take on the Glock trigger. The way the sear drops directly downward reminded me quite a bit of a bolt action rifle trigger - I'm sure this is no coincidence. Thanks again man.
I use oil lots of oil, but I was unaware that you recommend grease. So I’m going to order some grease and use it on a couple of 19s I have. I have two of the Timney triggers that I am going to reconfigure based on your recommendations. Thanks for the informational video as there are some other individuals that are putting things out about Timney triggers are unsafe.
I appreciate all the tips in this video, especially the trigger return spring and grease points
Johnny, Thank you for the Great trigger you sold me for my Glock 48. Love it. It hasn’t missed a beat. Crisp 3#’s then, crisp 3#’s today. Perfect.
Johnny Glocks you are a gentleman and a scholar!! Great video! I just got mine. You have the best information on Glock triggers, bar none! I want to take this to the next level and am excited for your next video!
so basically the timny trigger converts it from double action (drawing the striker back and releasing) to a 1911 like single action where the trigger just releases the sear/striker! very cool
Every video - EDUCATION! Thanks.
It's going to pop and fizzle, then stick around. People have been begging for Glock innovation, but Glock's are successful due to their simplicity. Glock's simpler design, albeit not by much, is simpler. Glock thrives on simplicity. Glock's design is too cemented due to its simplicity for most people to get permanently excited enough over a "Better" trigger. The Timney trigger introduces new safety protocols that most will not be familiar with. I'll probably still buy one though. I do like to tinker.
BTW, Johnny, your Combat trigger is nice, very nice. I should have bought your striker too. And, thanks for showing us how this trigger works. I was suspicious as to why Timney didn't explain how it works, being so innovative.
I love my drop in combat trigger for my G30!
Well, at least Timney is trying something different.
You could also go with a stronger (heavier) striker spring without noticeably affecting trigger pull. Nice consequence considering the limited availability and variety of primers right now.
Nice too see you back again Johnny!
It's very informative watching your videos. Always good to see you. Love your triggers.
just ordered one for my 19X and then I watched your vid, I'm torn on returning and order one from you
Your demeanor is more like that of an artist than a gunsmith.
Thanks for the videos. You’ve got the best videos on this trigger. I was having some of the reset issues on my Gen 4 Timney trigger. Tweaked a connector and will try some grease 👍🏼
Great information and glad to see total honesty.
Johnny Thank you!!! You number 1 !!!
Great detailed video. I would be very uncomfortable with a trigger where the sear is not attached to the cruciform and only held up by a spring which could get stuck in operation in even the cleanest gun with the smallest amount of dirt. To me this is -1 of the glock safeties - give me the shelf every day of the year.
Sometimes with more moving parts you lessen the degree of wear and or tension on other parts so the saying less parts is better is not always the case when good engineerring is involved.
Thank you for always being honest. Great video and very informative as usual.
I do not have that reset problem. Its smooth alle the way, and no issue. Its your gun thats the problem :) And good review.
Great video, thanks for being a gentleman and sharing your opinion.
My man is honest I respect him being real
Once again awesome video . The Timney is a pretty cool innovative trigger. I’m going to stick with your awesome trigger System .
It seems to me with the Timney trigger being a 3 pound pull it would be competition use only.
All kinds of nuggets! All kinds! Thank you! Diggin the jacket, kinda Max Headroom ish.😄👍
Awesome video. 🎉
That was very interesting Johnny, thanks buddy 👍👍👍👍👍
My EDC is a PSA G19 slide with tritium night sights, fullsize frame and polished P80 trigger bar and flat faced P80 shoe, extended magazine grip, not extended mag. I love this combo and never have had a failure out of many range trips.
Great video! Was interested to see what you thought about the safety of the trigger especially the drop shelf safety being negated but the Timney built in sear. Your honesty and unbiased review of the product will earn you more customers in the future. You’re the best!
precocked striker. like a walther or canik. makes for a great striker gun trigger.
Great review, thanks
The detailing and polishing, that Johnny Glock trigger bar is like a piece of jewelry 14:55.
The funny thing is I used to set mine up like a 2 stage with a wall on the dot connector and heavy trigger spring and light firing pin safety spring. Now after shooting the s3g in my ar for years I now use factory trigger spring, factory firing pin spring and a ghost connector for the surprise break on rapid fire with no wall. I might even add a ny spring to be more of a combat trigger.
I feel like the new trigger return spring is introducing a fairly substantial failure point. IIRC, CZ DA/SA guns use a similar return spring, and they tend to break after 10,000-15,000 trigger pulls (dryfire included).
Good point. Im thinking this is a bit of a unnecessarily complicated step towards that 1911 trigger. Interesting though. Perhaps a more robust trigger retun spring??
Then again it's only a spring, and according to the size and thickness of said spring it's probably cheap as hell. But yeah i agree with you.
Every hammer fired CZ I've owned has had the TRS replaced with a Cajun Gun Works springs. I order the springs when I initially bring the gun home as it's a given that in a matter of a couple weeks the spring will break and then I replace it.
Being fully cocked I’d make sure my safety plunger was in good shape and had a full strength plunger spring installed. If it slips the plunger is going to take a pretty good whack.
I highly recommend CV-2 grease. It's inexpensive and is the best grease I've ever used by far. ($15 for a tub that will last for 1000s and 1000s of guns, because you need so little and it works so well. Also lasts forever... literally.)
Hmm I'm interested could you elaborate on your experience with cv-2 in gun care? Do you use it for lubricating all parts?
@@P0wderMonkey It's best used on sliding parts (like rails/barrels). You only need a tiny amount. You can put it on action parts that aren't going to be fowled up also (parts at the back of the gun). Some people coat the outside of their barrel also (with a very thin layer) and the locking block (which is that one forward pin on a P320)... and then oil can be used normally. It's always good to verify, test and experiment too. I'm not a professional. I've just heard it from professionals and other people I know have tried it.
There are people that put it on and then wipe it off completely, as it will still leave an extremely thin layer on the parts and reduce friction better when coupled with oil (compared to oil alone). I think it's better to have a little more than that though, because it lifts the fowling off the parts to better lubricate them and stops them from fowling... and can make it so any fowling will just wipe off with a cloth (without needing any cleaners).
I'm sure there are gun designs that benefit from it more than others, so it's good to use judgement on pros and cons. (Like I would test it on a Ruger 10/22 bolt first, because 22lr has a lot less power to recoil the bolt and is also a dirty ammo compared to center-fire rounds).... and also, if it doesn't work well, you have to disassemble the gun to clean the bolt off. I've never seen it not work well though. (It's not like Frog Lube, so it shouldn't give you any problems).
@@deucedeuce1572 awesome! thank you for the info I went ahead and bought a tub online Will be giving it a try.
Thanks for the video. Great information
I idolize how the camera man can stand there and keep the camera level
Agreed, incredibly innovative. I'd be more interested in it if they made it for a 43/48. I'm sightly worried about the internals of the drop in, though.
Nice presentation. You might want to put a wireless microphone on your wish list...would improve audio quality greatly. Thanks.
I will probably end up getting one for my G19 but I trust my JG trigger in my G26 carry gun and don’t want to mess with that.
So instead of pushing back slightly then camming-out, it just slides down like it was camming-out. That's is pretty trick! Which means you could go for a heavier pin spring and have a very similar trigger!
Always great educational stuff!
I would check your spacer sleeve after heavy use of this, that's the only thing that's a little weak that's right there and I've had some break on me just by pushing them down to take the slide plate off.
I went to buy some Hinge Pin Jelly today and it turns out that Clenzoil just discontinued that product. The replacement is Synthetic Gun Grease Syringe. Just an FYI. Great video Johnny!
Ever try CV-2? That stuff is Amazing for gun grease. Never seen another grease that works so well. (Like Mobil One for rust prevention).
This is a copy of my original comment on Johnny's other Timney trigger video:
I want to make this comment because I installed my Timney trigger last night and have some feedback. It was installed in a P80 G19 version, and I noticed a couple of things, 1. The wall is way too flimsy if you want to carry with this trigger. The wall is so easy to break through that it is unsatisfying, to me, and it's almost as if there's no trigger at all. 2. After pulling the trigger and hand cycling the slide back, then forward, the striker wouldn't catch on the sear completely and the striker would fire again meaning, there were two fires during one trigger pull and this happened maybe 15% of the time. I don't know if this means two shots would have fired had there been live rounds in the mag. The trigger was trying to reset/reengage but would slip, causing that famous striker twang sound. I was using a P80 trigger housing, a 4.5 lbs striker spring, and all polished and cleaned components. I did not polish the Timney, however. Prior, this P80 was a successful build using Glock, or Glock copy components, and firing it several times at the range. So I'm near 100% certain that it was built correctly.
I am considering selling the trigger, or roughing up some of the metal surfaces to cause drag, and/or install a different connector. The connector used was a standard 5-5.5lbs Glock copy connector bar. The angle of the bar was correct, as far as I know. I've had to resolve issues with connector angles, so I am fairly certain the angle was good.
Nicely done! Thanks!
I put a little grease on the right side of the trigger shoe because of little friction... it will get the trigger shoe action a lot smoother... I use a minus connector, reduce safety plunger spring, and i am pulling about 2.2/2.4 lbs trigger pull. That what i did on mine beside lubricating the parts that was discuss and the loctite on the screw at the bottom of the receiver
Like all your videos
As far as I understand, Glock has intentionally designed to keep the striker spring not under tension as a way to add to drop safety. Many firestriker guns, such as Springfield XD/m/s models have their striker spring compressed and ready to go forward when the sear falls. But with Glocks, and, I believe, by design, they want the spring to tighten as the trigger is pulled. So, these triggers, although interesting, get around this feature, but then they effectively "disable" an important design consideration of the Glock drop safety (the other consideration of the drop safety is that the trigger bar/cruciform is following a predetermined channel in the trigger housing). What are your thoughts on this, Johnny?
Thanks, man!
Love the video and I love the jacket.
Got his Competition on my Gen 3 34! Sick!!!!!!!
My Timney trigger bar stamping is very very rough at rhe connector contact ledge and the safety plunger ledge. I was very surprised to see how rough the stamping is, and that Timney didn't smooth these contact surfaces prior to coating the trigger bar. I will be contacting them to see if they will do anything about it.
You can see how rough the Timney trigger bar stamping is in this video also
In theory, it turns the Glock trigger system into the S&W M&P type trigger system which has separate sear rather than trigger bar also as sear.
Great video Did buy one before I saw this. Just tried it in a Nomad 9 with several different connectors I have and the only one that worked was the stock connector. I'm not getting the trigger hang up you were showing. I am measuring 2 1/2 lbs on a standard connector.
Once again I love John what a great guy and is so honest and loyal but the camera guy needs to be replaced
I think your looking for metal on metal contact points lol. Innovations like this are the ones that redefine entire segments it forces other brands to think outside the box as well. plus for how expensive it was to design and manufacture these at the price they charge is incredible. Every single other trigger company simply improves and refines Glocks blue print can’t wait to see what’s next these other companies will e forced to step it up. Nice to see your praise a competitor and colleague with an honest review Nd respect for the design you could have easily pointed out any perceived flaws and didn’t I like the direction they’re going to take the entire market
Good to see brother!!
It's a huge improvement.....however if you add the Vex shoe, it turns out even better. Vex shoe is the best , well worth the money in my opinion. It's as close to a perfect glock trigger as you can get.
Thank you
Thanks Johnny! Caught the first half on IG.
That’s why you follow the instruction I watch people install this out in the field less than 5 minutes and you’re struggling
Cant wait for the next video
All of my Glocks have some sort of carry/defense purpose. If I had a race gun this would be tempting, but since my purpose and training with Glocks is oriented towards defense I’ll stick with the stock system. Your triggers and Apex are the only aftermarket solutions I would trust to be bombproof.
I’m both excited and pissed off about this trigger. I had my own design for a fully cocked Glock trigger I was working on. Blew my mind that nobody had tried offering that before, the partially cocked striker is clearly the weak point for a light reliable trigger. Congrats to Timney for thinking about something different.
I'm really hoping that your conversion kits get back in soon for the gen 5s
love the trigger I got thanks man
I really want a Johnny Glock trigger but I’m worried about the time it takes to get back and I don’t trust myself to install
Hopefully there using sprinco springs
Good info thank you!
My glock 26 Gen 5 trigger has that problem with the Timmy trigger
30 minutes of holy information! Will this Timney Alpha Trigger work with double diamond connector or should be strictly OEM part from Glock? After three years of psychological torture, malfunctions, and disappointments I decided to get rid of my "crappy" Glock pyramid trigger! So, the only part that could remain would be the connector from them and I was wondering if it's a good combination. BTW, mine is G-34 gen 4. Many Thanks
What would be the problem if the trigger resets but will not fire after it resets? Need help just installed it
Why are not with the engineering team at Glock???
How is the bottom half of the sear engagement drop safe if you only need to overcome the spring tension? The ledge no longer even matters. Drop it hard enough on the grip and it could go bang.
So I should have spent the extra money and got a JG ?
Is there a chance of the Timney alpha competition for glock 19 gen 5, to disarm the firing pin due to a drop from a chest height? Once this trigger makes the gun to get full coked (I mean 100% of the firing on the set ready strike position)... This situation wouldnt cause a incidental shot, because of the safety plunger pin, but it would set the gun not ready for fire... even with the ammo set on the chamber... Has anyone done this test?