New Glock performance trigger review pt 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- We just received a bunch of these Glock performance triggers literally 5 minutes ago. This is my first impression on the system I hope you guys enjoy the video review. Please comment if you have any questions and if you think of miss something I'd like to hear from you.
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In this in-depth review, Johnny tests the break and performance of the new Glock performance trigger. We find a consistent break at 3 pounds. We review the differences between this new Glock Performance Trigger and the Timney Alpha Competition Glock Trigger. He takes it apart. Also puts the Johnny Glocks VEX shoe in to see how the performance is. Can find it here: johnnyglocks.com/products/glo...
00:00 Start
01:32 Performance Trigger from Glock, packaging and intro
01:42 First look at the Glock performance trigger
04:23 Testing the performance
07:00 Testing the break
08:00 Mechanics of the trigger
11:35 Taking the trigger apart
14:50 Putting the trigger back together
19:10 problems with the Timney Alpha glock
21:10 Testing the performance trigger with the Johnny Glocks VEX
21:45 filming off-screen
22:30 Looking at the trigger with the re-installed Johnny Glocks VEX shoe
23:00 filming off-screen for compliance
26:00 dialed in glock performance trigger with Johnny Glocks VEX shoe
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Tactical pontoon= makes videos to tell you how amazing his work is without proving anything.
Johny Glocks= 30 mins videos explaining everything.
There's a reason this guy is the king.
Yes! So much BS out there and Johnny makes it simple and plain.
I just don't like the guy from TP, all his posts are just talking trash, but never actually details his own work.
@@Krysis219 i'm glad i'm not the only one who felt that way. i was 1 click away from buying his trigger, but happy that I didn't
@@vmanshooting if you go way back he used to use JG's videos too, and now he just talks trash.
I'd rather watch Johny. Anyone can polish, but I want to hear & learn without the BS. Plus Johny has been around forever
I was the first guy ever to bring this guy a Shadow Systems gun for a trigger. At that time, he had never worked with one. I left my gun with him for a couple of days and when I picked up, I was blown away. I still have that gun, and that trigger and anyone who touches it is always amazed by how smooth it is. He also, based upon my preference, incorporated a wonderful rolling break instead of a wall. This guy is the best.
Missed you dude. Love your content. Always informative, reliable and fun too.
Don't be gone so long next time.
We missed you johnny! Thanks for all the great info you give us!
Another awesome video!!! Looking forward to see your upgrade version on that one!!!
If Glock really wanted to knock the competition dead, they need to get you guys onboard working hand in hand with their product line manager or whoever and get your custom triggers, strikers and the vex shoes into their base model Glocks, instead of coming up with their Timney-lite one.
Facts! Why not call the guy who builds a better product that drops-in and is safe? Or how about calling the guy that knows more about their triggers than they do. They could offer Patrol, combat, competitive and standard trigger options. Better shoes, better trigger pull and take-up, better break and reset. Glock is just too proud to make such of a call. I bet this performance trigger is a flop, nobody even knows the cost yet. I would bet $175-$250 MSRP. And now we all know it is a Timney with some changes and not even close to Timney feeling or reset. So what’s the point of buying this new trigger, when you can change a few parts at home and have a better trigger? Or just buy a JG trigger and have the best of both worlds.
Glock is falling further and further behind. They better step it up because the competitors are already roasting them OEM out of the box. Plain and simple!!
@@Balticblue93 Alaskan ballistics put out a video with his new gen-5 G20 and it came with the new trigger and the new match-grade barrel actually a polygon with straight-cut edges on the lands and it's also crowned . I believe his comment on the trigger was he couldn't tell much difference in it which to me is understandable with a new gun chambered in the stout 10mm auto. Glock says they have made 20 design changes and as you may or may not know the barrels, and trigger assembly are not interchangeable with other Glock generations. You also have I think three options in the site's department 2 different night sights and a newly designed OEM plastic sight. I think they're listening to people but they have such a huge worldwide following especially military and police as well I doubt slumping sales are forcing them to do this. Thanks man!
@@jimmybare3026 wow didn’t know this about the trigger on the new G20 thanks for the info! Still on the hunt to get mine 😎
When your life depends on it, Glock! It just works!
Man I love your videos 🤘🤘🤘 I have learned so much from them and see them over and over, thank you! Glock needs to have a lineup with your name!
Welcome back, good to see you, hope you enjoyed the break. And I'd love to try the new spring in my Vex!
Thank you, Johnny! You are the Glock Guru, and your videos are the absolute best when it comes to Glock knowledge. Looking forward to the forthcoming Shadow Systems pistol video with your trigger tweaks. 🙂👍
Glad to see you Johnny glock. The only person I know that can take perfection, and perfect it even more. Hope you had a great Christmas and a great new year. Never stop, we need you. 😉
Love your videos, I've learned so much. I can't wait to get one of your triggers!
Love this, just got my first 19 gen 3 and will definitely be getting one of your trigger systems soon
JOHNNY!! So glad to see this video. I purchased two Glock 21’s recently to add to my Glock 22 & 24 and always refer to your videos to make decisions on care and maintenance.
I had a problem with my first casper pistol trigger working, I knew exactly who to go to! Couple quick tips and tricks and she was up and running! Then I bought a different, more expensive trigger. Anyway, it was good to go through your video and relearn a bunch of things. Thanks Johhny, you're the best!
Thanks Mr. Johnny. Hope y'all had a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Take care, Vern the old man in Va.
I have a build I have in mind and I’m looking forward to seeing what your version of this will be. It was great to see the rest of the store too. I’ve watched a lot of your videos (all?) and I’ve never seen the front part of the store.
Glad to see you!!!
I will follow you!!!
Thank you Johnny and the gang!!!
Glad youre back !!
Great to see a new Johnny Glocks video!
Good to see you again brother, great job as always man 👍👍👍👍👍✅✅✅✅✅
I'd actually buy one of these knowing Glock put it out . Thanks for the Rumble link. Your the first I've seen on this Johnny. God bless.
This is great. I'm really glad someone gave a deep dive on the new Performance Trigger before I decided to buy. I just picked up a G47 yesterday and you know I gotta start tricking it out lol
Good to see you're back, worried the damn hurricane had taken the building and your stock along with it.
I know you are going to be busy exploring, tweaking and upgrading that trigger assembly so.
I can't wait to see what you come up with.......
In JG we trust. Great to see a new video. Educate and Entertain.
Great video as always
Awesome video! First video of yours I have watched, now a subscriber. The tape visualization is great idea for showing the distances for the different trigger stages.
Keep dropping us ur videos. Thanks
As always very informative.
Awesome video buddy
I had no idea you had youtube channel, needless to say, subscribed immediately. I have several of your complete trigger systems and not only my opinion but everyone who has dry fired my glocks have nothing but fantastic things to say. I need to upgrade my 43x MOS to your trigger system. Missed it on black friday deals but I will be snagging one soon. AWESOME products.
Happy New Years Johnny!!! 🤙🏽
Love your videos. I’ve learned a lot.
Happy New year's to you too Johnny and it's great to have you back. Hope this new year is great for all of us. I'm sorry to hear your having issues with TH-cam but I'm sure you'll roll right through that and appease them as needed. I'm stoked glock came out with this new trigger especially when it's got your seal of approval. I picked up one of your Timney conversion kits for my g19 gen4 and have it being installed right now and I can't wait. Love the Timney and if I shot competively I'd have a better use for it but that's not the case so I'm appreciative you had the solution. Just for the record, I got unsubscibed from your channel so I'm glad I hit you up this morning and took care of that. They must be under a lot of pressure and it really sucks their making things hard for you and quite a few others but this is sadly the world we live in and hopefully that will eventually chill sooner than later. BTW...your camera man is the bomb and it was nice meeting the rest of the crew too. In retrospect I don't know how you managed to do all your own filming early on but he's definetely an asset and glad you could incorporate him into the team. Thanks for all that you do and I'll keep you posted with the trigger kit. 🔥👍
Best unboxing of this trigger yet
Merry Christmas Johnny Glock
A lot of engineering and research/development involved in making that trigger. Thanks Johnny .
Honestly, I think Glock fixed the two primary issues that Timney had with their trigger 1) the drop safety was essentially deleted since the trigger bar and sear were now independent parts (and it doesn't matter that the trigger housing still technically had the drop safety molded into the polymer because the only thing really holding the sear up was the spring inside the Timney housing) 2) the return spring was pretty weak.
As much as people like to give Glock crap for not innovating and being behind the curve, their engineers really do know what they are doing. They pretty much solved both issues for their own trigger by 1) introducing the hook that goes over the trigger bar (makes all the difference in the world because any exertion of downward force on the sear from say, a drop, will mechanically not allow the sear to drop unless the trigger is actively being pulled, which moves the bar out from under the hook) 2) the return spring is a redesign of the Gen 5 and will have a similarly authoritative reset to the standard Glock trigger rather than the anemic reset the Timney elbow spring produces.
Overall, this is a very well done iteration on the Timney design. Hopefully they make them for the G43/43x/48 as well so I can stick one in my CR920.
You can mail it either just by using a stamp or tape it to a baseball card size piece of cardboard and mail it through the mailing system for small cards. A stamp is cheaper but with the cards you have tracking info
First let me give you your flowers for making, in my humble opinion, the best glock informational videos on TH-cam. You were the first to show this on the tube. From what I see it's a safer better designed version of the timney system. With that said, please show us how to remove the over travel with the oem performance shoe. Peace...
Thanks so much Johnny, God bless.
I'm glad you made this video before the word got out at Shot Show, I was able to buy one before they end up on intergalactic backorder.
Love it brother!!
Will be watching you on rumble now thanks for showing me rumble. Pretty kool video platform!!
Thank you for your videos and you helped me replace a broken Glock 19 Gen 5 performance trigger and install to replace Glock 26 Gen 4 trigger.
It saves much time and cost. Some of those triggers cost $140 to replace.
Great video!
Thank`s for the update,
I haven't found the MSRP but Botach has em for $100. Thanks for breaking it to us!
great content, thank you!
thanks for the info.!!!
You are the best keep it up
GREAT VIDEO JOHNNY ... !!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE ...!!!!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND MONEY .... !!!!!!!!
I have the Timney trigger and the JG shoe on my Glocks. I would like that enhanced reset spring though. You're right, the red spring isn't strong enough.
Do we have an Update for that spring?
It's good to see you again!
Bottom line?
Based on all this "mental gymnastics" and impressively thorough discussion, I guess I'm better off keeping my Gen5 stock and putting the money into ammo.
It would be cool to see how it acts with the addition of factory “+” plus connector and heavy striker spring.
The best video out there
Very Nice !! new trigger plus vex looks nice. Do they say its OK in stock form for EDC ? Makes be a bit worried about full cocked FP all the time for edc
Glock definitely needs Johnny on their team!
Great info
Nice video and very informative as always. 3 pound trigger pull on a G26 for carry and self defense?!😯
I like this keeps the sear from being independent from the trigger bar like the Timney. Which is why I wont carry the Timney the drop safety is defeated. Okay for competition but in my opinion not carry. This design however fixes thst issue. Nice
I love this dude
Just got mine today. Break is really nice but the over travel is annoying at best. Going to order one of your shoes and I think it may be better than my PDP.
Would love to see the pull weight with the standard connector like in your combat trigger. I run my Timney with the standard connector in my Carry Optics gun and it gives me around 3.4lb pull and less mush before the break. (Crisp If you will) I prefer that over a 2.5lb mushy/pull through type break.
I'm DEFINITELY going to get your Carry Trigger in the next couple of months. You have it down to a SCIENCE!!!😃
At 17:44 I found it easier to use a tiny flat tip screwdriver through the hole in the housing under the return spring to push it back & get the bar back in the notch.
Like your videos and I’m a new subscriber.
How does Lenny have so many in depth vids on here where he’s going over in detail all the things YT is saying you can’t?
I have two Vex's, so I'm in to try the springs
While it’s definitely possible Glock took a lot from the Timney trigger design, Timney definitely took everything from the Walther P99/PPQ/PDP (and Canik, a Walther clone). They looked at how the P99 trigger assembly works, figured out a way to configure it so it would fit inside a Glock frame, and interface with Glock striker lug.
Johnny where can I pick up one of these oem performance triggers? Also would love to purchase an upgrade spring for the timney. I have terrible reset issues.
This was my 1st Johnny Glocks video, and it won't be the last. Thanks.
Welcome my friend Glad you enjoyed it
Interested in grabbing one out of your first batch or more.
Thank you
Thanks!
Tons of great info!! What are your thoughts on the TF Tactical flat face triggers? Have you done anything with them before?
That's what I was wondering.
Damn reminds me of the Smith and Wesson SV9 great gun copy of Glock all the complication of too may springs and hard trigger pull, but once taken out and polished great gun. I see this as almost the same set up but diferent angle a lot of small parts and it's only for the gen 5 pistols is it worth the money ? how reliable ? only time will tell. You the expert Johnny, if I get one I will trust your expertise to make sure it is always relaible thanks for the explaination.
Noticed the the bar that pushes the seat down on the Glock aftermarket trigger sits lower than the Timney. I have to file a groove in my timney and polish it because the striker was dragging it and causing light strikes.
I have a feeling people are going to have a lot more luck with this new Glock trigger over the timney out of the box without tinkering.
Or at least it looks like that on a 5" phone screen 😂
I want one of these but I want one with the Vex shoe.
Just ordered one from Glock’s online store. They’re $100, which is a good deal (if it performs well), but mainly my hope is that it’ll be completely sorted out and uphold Glock reliability. I wasn’t surprised to hear in this video that the Timney’s had some bugs to work out.
Yes, that's the part that is being missed. A improved trigger system that can still maintain edc levels of safety and reliability. Interested to see what improvements can be made and effect of connector angles.
Do you use it in your carry gun?
@@mmafanatic-tz5or I did for a while, but then I got my 34 for competition, so I installed it in that.
YES! I love my Timmy but reset has always been an issue, I use it on my competition G34 so don't really care but would never carry it because it's def a safety issue.
Does the overtravel set screw sometimes keep the crusiform from sitting in the drop shelf flush, causing light strikes as the striker drags over it during fire? I did my own pre/over pins with a tyrant trigger and ghost connector. Oem return spring in my 43x and sometimes I get light strikes. I also have the 4.0lb striker spring. Should I go to the 4.5?
Yeah 4.5 definitely in a 43X
How likely is it that there will be a gen 3 compatible version of this?
The way the pins hold in the springs in the housing makes me think. Little of a 10/22 trigger...only a little bit but not overly dissimilar
Yeah ,,, I'd be up to buying a Complete Drop-in Kit with this new setup from YOU for my Gen 4 G40 10mm .
We've been building these for a long time before these came out and I think ours are better but maybe old Gaston is finally
listening to my E-mails.
I was given my old duty weapon Glock Model 22 when I retired. I never had any problems with it, but the accuracy was only so so, and I put a Wilson combat stainless barrel in it. I really liked the accuracy that I got with it, and kept the gun stock except for the barrel swap. About a year and a half ago, I started getting light strikes or failures to fire. I replaced all the springs in the pistol and reduced the frequency of the problem occurring, but it still happens about every 50 rounds or so. Any ideas on what I should check to try to fix this and get my Glock reliability back?
Make sure this hits are center hits. And more than likely it could be the ammo.
Really would like to see you tune and polish the Glock performance and add the Vex to it. …..take my money!!
Can you replace the trigger return spring in these like you can the OEM Gen 5 triggers to lighten it even more?
That does look like a mutha, yet somehow, the Doc makes it seem easy! Good to see everyone doin good! God bless and happy new year! LGB and screw screwtube! And thanks again! Good nuggets! 😎👍
How do you like this compared to your own performance trigger?
I already own your full upgrade kit but I'm curious to try this.
I used the forward take down pin as a slave pin to get the trigger bar back in
There is a gs performance trigger assembly tool for $8 from the Glock store to help put the performance trigger back together.
I wonder how this new Glock OEM performance trigger is compared to the Apex complete trigger kit.
How do I go about getting one of the springs you referenced at 3:08 in the video. Is it going to be on the website? You mentioned sending a self addressed envelope a a couple bucks.... What is the process? I have a Gen 3 G34 with the Timney and your vex trigger shoe upgrade.
Glock should innovate with a carry comp kit next. Single chamber, indexed on the barrel, side pinned. Set of back straps that allow for indexing a Glock like a 1911 or Cz should be the carry comp. Then a fully modular fire control group.
First time viewer. What happened to his left arm?
Very informative thank you. I get the community rules and why you don't disassemble one onscreen but how does Lenny McGill get away with it ? Doesn't seem fair to me.
Hi Johnny, I wonder if you started selling the stronger trigger spring? I'm using Timney Alpha with your Vex trigger but sometimes the trigger won't reset itself. I really need a stronger trigger spring. Thanks!
It will be on the website this week
Wow Nice need one for Gen 3🤩
Interesting I would get this out
After taking the galil trigger apart I feel that nothing else could be a challenge
A few years back I picked up my first ruger 10/22 and decided to bring the gun home and strip it down completely to learn it. That trigger took me forever to get back together but looking back it’s not so bad now
Whats your thoughts on the performance trigger vs the pyramid 2.0? I recently contacted you about your 3.5 connector so idk if i should go that route or a whole new trigger for my gen 5 19??this will be my edc gun