Thats what I did in college as a computer science engineering student. Everyone did. After that when you get a job, they give you Macbook Pro. Then you won't need it lol
exact same reason lol. Had the budget for a high end desktop but this september I'm off to collage and a laptop is just more practical, especially on graphic design.
Yeah I had one when I was a student too, that's when it makes the most sense tbh. Everyone I know who's had gaming laptops in the past had them while they were a student and got a desktop later
For some years, I decided to build my own gaming PC with dual monitor setup. I love the flexibility, performance and upgrade. But then I learned that I don't really need that much power since I rarely game with my PC so I switched to a gaming laptop. On a CPU side, a gaming laptop still gives me a desktop grade performance while the mobile GPU can provide me with decent power whenever I want to play games. I treat my gaming laptop more like a desktop replacement/mobile workstation since I use my larger screen at home combined with the laptop's internal display at home to do productivity/multitasking stuff and I can just bring my gaming laptop with me whenever I need to move out from my home to work or game elsewhere. I don't really miss having a desktop at this point. I just love having a setup that I can bring anywhere and deliver the same power whenever and wherever I use it as long as I carry my adaptor. If you want to save a lot more, a desktop will be the better option. But if you have some use cases that you need flexibility and want to sacrifice performance and pay more, a gaming laptop is better.
Same here! Back when I was a hardcore gamer (before all of the adult responsibilities), a gaming PC made total sense. Now that I game casually, all of that power doesn't matter much anymore.
Same for me, using the laptop screen as a secondary monitor for productivity. It never moved from the desk, I even have a smaller netbook for travelling. I was in mini-ITX and overclocking and such when I was younger but I got fed up, a mid range gaming laptop is all I need for the games I play, it use less power, and the the battery act as an UPS. For me the main drawbacks are peak performance compared to a desktop, a bit more expensive, and the noise when going full blast (even if I only use headphones now). I don't really care for upgradability, improvements in hardware have slowed down you're likely to have to change everything with a longer upgrade cycle.
Ayeeee same here as well, but I still have my desktop. I just love using a laptop, because of its low power consumption and great performance. I am one of the few who has the same GPU in both laptop and desktop.
Most popular games don't require top of the line graphics. Boomer Shooters, pixel games, base building, and most RPG's for starters; a 4060 will play almost everything on a mobile
My 2 main reasons for a laptop: 1) My area has a power outage every couple of months. I don't like losing all my working data. A battery is great for that. 2) It fits nicely under my TV with all the other devices.
@@smallbutdeadly931Yeah but good online ups cost a lot of money and are expensive to maintain due to battery draining overtime. Ups maybe feasible for a 600 w build but above that, it gets very expensive.
When I enrolled in my university (computer degree), I was kinda shocked how many students have their own laptop, and mostly it was a gaming one, usually not so expensive (around $1000, I don't live in a rich country), and I was shocked even more when I saw that in a moderately thin case I can have even more power than my previous pc with i3 10100 and gtx 1660s, thanks progress for letting us have quite powerful and portable laptops, at least in cheap and middle segment
Upgrading is myth gamers like to perpetuate. Most people never upgrade their build beyond storage. The majority just build a new one in about 5-7 later. Outside of the case, when you get new mobo, your getting a new cpu, probably a new gen of ram, which usually means new coolers. So outside of the psu and fans……..you’ve built a new pc
Was using gaming laptops from 10+ years but last year decided to sell my brand new one and build system again, since more than 10 years and now quite happy with 7800 xt, 7500f and DDRR5 6400 CL30 and building it myself was priceless!
What are the tips for using a laptop? I had one, but it crashed permanently. I was breaking the speed of a screen card for a long time 😅 Two years later, I collected money, and now I am thinking of buying a new laptop.
The timing is amazing. I'm 8 year laptop-user computer engineer. For my degree, I needed laptop. Before that I build desktops etc... 2 days ago I finally sold my old katana laptop and thought should I switch to desktops since my company already gives me Mac Pro that I can use on vacations etc. 3 days ago I found this channel and this video comes. Talk about timing. I think new laptop will be fine. I use external everything but RTX3050 (Katana MSI) did job enough for FL studio & BF2042 on Full HD low settings etc. People exaggrate their needs. Laptops are fine. Unless you are streamer,pro gamer etc. Also, my MSI Katana once had a video-output problem to external monitor. Give it to service and they replaced the motherboard completely from warranty. You can't do that on desktop PCs. I basically had NEW laptop with new motherboard which is basically %90 of the PC. They also replaced the back-case for my pleasure %5 from there. Laptop warranty is AMAZING. In Desktop, you can't ask them to replace PSU for motherboard problem for example. ++ You won't be worried about suddenly losing electricity and fucking your PC when electrics go down. Laptops won't shut it down like desktops and cause failuers et.c
@ 4:40 Another way to look at Laptop Batteries is as if they were a built in UPS. Even though many PC users overlook the UPS, a UPS should be included on any build (or any high value piece of electronic gadgetry)
This. It's not just travelling. I enjoyed gaming on my sofa with a laptop, it was just a lot more comfortable. A desktop is nice, but sitting upright in a chair is just less comfortable. I did however sell my gaming laptop and build a gaming PC just because I was getting fed up of paying for whole laptops over and over with each upgrade - rather than individual components.
@@SeaWhiz Right? Can't use it on your bare lap because it burns. So then you have to have a laptop table because you can't use it on sheets. And at that point you're sitting up at a weird angle or without your back supported. I never used to game in bed with a laptop 'cause it was just awful
@@MrIssa2021If you keep up your cleaning, it's really not that bad. I'll have my laptops on pretty much every surface and every room of my home for one reason or another. They've been rather dust free during my internal cleanings that I do every 2 or 3 years.
Wasn’t sure whether to buy a gaming laptop at first so I started doing some research and came across your channel. After watching a few videos I’ve decided to subscribe. One of the best informative channels I’ve come across and your videos are also entertaining. I was wondering if you’d consider making a video of different laptops for different tasks eg; graphic design, music creation, gaming, streaming, content creation, etc. If you were to put a laptop in at the end that combined a bit of all of them would be amazing. 100% looking forward to seeing more of your content
just upgraded from gaming laptop, and build my first mini itx case. 7800x3d + 4070super in a case the size of a shoebox (Lian Li a4 h2o). Since im not gaming on my laptopscreen either it works decently well for me. It still (barely) fits in my backpack if im taking it with me, but ofcourse cant game on the go.
you don't even ever wanted to bring that ITX for the second time, imagine the peripheral hassle... it's just not worth it. The thing is prone to damage. Desktoo are meant to use on a desk...
What people need to know when calculating the cost is that laptop GPUs often use one tier lower chip then a GPU with the same name. For example laptop 4080 is very similar to desktop 4070, laptop 4070 and 4060 are very similar to desktop 4060. Makes comparing the costs way easier and more straightforward. I have a desktop pc with 4070 and a 14.5 inch laptop with a lower powered 3050 that can be fully supplied with power via 100w type-c charger, so no compromises in portability. Main advantage of the desktop for me is how quiet it can be, if properly built it can be entirely silent, which is great for people who appreciate open back headphones. Full-sized gaming laptops are great for people who travel/move a lot or who regularly need portable gpu power, but for many people a light laptop(possibly even without discrete GPU) + a desktop is a very strong and versatile option.
You're the reason why I chose a gaming laptop rather than building my own PC. The second reason is because of my course (Architecture); I need a portable, powerful enough machine to work on my plates/designs. By the way, my laptop is almost 3 years old now, LOL, and it can still handle new games and some architecture software. So yeah, I think it was a great choice to pick the laptop over a desktop (maybe after I graduate from Architecture, I'll build my own desktop). For those wondering what gaming laptop I bought, I know this is controversial, but hear me out-this is a different spec model of that brand and model: I purchased the Acer Predator Helios 300 with a 1440p 165Hz display, an i7-11800H CPU, an RTX 3060 6GB 115W GPU, and 16GB 3200MHz RAM (single channel), but I plan to upgrade it soon to 32GB of RAM (dual channel).
After using Gaming laptops for years, I finally moved to Desktop Gaming PC. I built two recently one with AMD R9 5900x and the other one with i7-14700KF. Definitely huge performance boost but as you said Jarrod its quite costly to run especially energy prices are up everywhere. I own Lenovo Legion 5-15ACH6H RTX 3070 paired with AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, Graphics are very good but the processor heats up badly in gaming so I have to limit FPS to 61 max to reduce the heat. The fans cannot disperse the heat fast even after changing some settings in Bios and the cpu temps reach 95C in some games. I cannot teach the keyboard so I have to use external keyboard and mouse. The fans are so loud during gaming even louder than my desktop pc fans. With all the huge money spent on gaming laptops, try to build a powerful gaming desktop pc. its not that difficult but you need some experience how to install AIO CPU liquid cooler and the right connectors on the motherboards.
Laptop user here, have an MSI Raider with a RTX 3080, so far love it, it was expensive, but it's worth it. Recently upgraded the NVME sticks from 3Tb total to 8Tb. The battery life is quite decent and so far the battery has behaved very well. My previous laptop was an ACER Predator with an RTX 1070, but every time I played a game, the battery began to provide extra power, (While also connected to a power brick) and the battery degraded very quickly to the point it no longer charges. If you want a good laptop, make sure the power brick provides all the power you will need without draining the battery, the MSI does this very well. Also, if you get a laptop, get a decent raised cooling base WITH filters, and with foam seals for the bottom of the laptop, dust is the bane of all laptops, keep it dust free and it'll last you years. 👍
What about the power/electricity? It’s quite a big factor no one talks about. Let’s compare the wattage (W). Gaming PC with the same power as laptop uses around 2x more electricity than a laptop. In my country + considering my time and tasks I do, it is around 250 € difference every year in electricity bills. So yeah, gaming pc is cheaper when you consider price to performance value, but you need to count the electricity usage.
It is such a good point that people don't actually realise what they need or just say future proof. Even a 4060 laptop playing games at 1080p or 1440p is a great performer that a lot of the PC crowd would be happy with but they just see laptop and write it off. Even if they are buying a pc with also a 4060 or rx 7600xt or 6700xt or 3060 ti and getting basically the same or only slightly higher performance. This applies to other tech like flagship 1000 dollar phones when with how most people use their phone they would be happy with a mid range Samsung phone and wouldn't even notice a difference but yet the culture in America is the newest iPhone always having the new iphone it's very silly.
personally I think as Windows gaming handhelds become more mature and the chips more capable, I see them taking a huge bite out of the gaming laptop marketshare in the future
Traveling is the big reason to get a laptop, especially since they are much thinner and lighter in 2024 than they ever have been. A desktop will always be superior but it doesn't close and carry as easily as a laptop.
Desktop may be for people that really needed, like if you want to create a high performance setup with three monitors (for a simracing Rig for example) you really need the three display ports that a desktop GPU has. Hard to found that on a Laptop. In the other hand, laptops nowadays are quite powerful for most task, so you almost have all you need on that option.
I just have a RTX 3050 laptop with a dock setup, hooked up to a 1440p monitor and my peripherals. This way, I still can get a pretty damn good experience (though the card does struggle quite a bit at 1440p games, but that's nothing tweaking settings can't fix) while still having the ability to disconnect and go elsewhere in the event of a power outage (which happen quite a bit here) or if I just wanna work on my couch.
@@BG1435qthat's normal hours and days if you want more in this world. Your not getting anywhere working an 8 hour shift 4 or 5 days a week at McDonald's.
I don‘t have the space for a huge screen + desktop setup anymore since I lost my „man cave“ to my own children. I paid roughly 1000€ more for my Legion 7 4090 than for a comparable desktop, but I get to actually use it whenever the occasion arises.
I have a Lenovo Legion 5 14 inch laptop. Best purchase ever. Gaming laptops just have a lot of use cases. You can argue is better than a ROG Ally to play even in bed. And when It's connected, never leave the silent fan profile and I play everything, including AW2 and Cyberpunk 2077 at medium.
The main issue for me with gaming laptops is the heat. Until two years ago, I never owned a laptop, but I got an M1 MacBook Pro, and it completely changed how I view comfort. Most of the time, I use it in bed, whether for work or play. And yes, it does play games-I've used it for Ryujinx, BOTW on Cemu, Hades 2, Hollow Knight, Nier Automata, and I’m planning to play Yakuza soon. I've realized that I game more and enjoy it more because I'm comfortable while playing. My MacBook doesn't heat up much, and the weight is so well-balanced that it doesn’t hurt after a few hours. The max temperature it reaches is about 43°C, and the fan noise is practically nonexistent (I play with speakers). That’s the only gripe I have with gaming laptops-they need to be cool, quiet, and powerful at the same time. I’ve had the impression that gaming laptops struggle with this, but I could be wrong, especially with recent advancements like ARM on the rise. Apple’s slow start to integrating gaming is promising, but I’m itching to get back into Windows because I miss gaming. I only recently started gaming again in 2024 after selling my gaming PC in 2021 to focus on studying. It’s crazy how much support there is for gaming on a Mac now, which is far beyond what I expected. I just wish there was a gaming laptop with the weight balancing, cooling, and efficiency of a MacBook, combined with the performance and compatibility of gaming on Windows. I’ve also considered the Steam Deck, which could solve my issues altogether, but I’m unsure how comfortable it would be or if the screen size would be a drawback.
Been using a gaming laptops since 2017 when I left home for collage. I had a bulky asus with a 1070 that tbf was still running most games I played in 1080p (especially competitive stuff). It as mainly a desktop replacement as the battery was really poor to actually carry it to class. (I got a 2015 macbook off ebay for that) After collage, I had to make a decision if I wanted to upgrade to a desktop or replace the laptop (since I actually had my own money). Decided to go with a laptop still, the lenovo 7i 4090. Still used as a desktop replacement hooked up to multiple monitors. I made this decision just because I was so used to having the same machine with me wherever I go and I do end up being away at least one month each year back to homecountry. However, every time I think what desktop I could have got for the same money... Maybe I should have kept the old laptop and got a desktop instead. For sure my next PC will be a desktop.
I ditched desktops 10 years ago....never going back either....laptop does everything I need for the gaming I do, I run external monitor, keyboard and mouse....takes almost no Room at all. I also have a really small room, so things are kinda tight with my guitars and music equipment in here. But I just don't see the point of a desktop, my laptop plays GTA5, Dying Light, Killing Floor, and those kind of general games on Medium to High.....I'm good with that.
I bought a gaming laptop because I went to college. After I was done with college, I decided to stick (for now) with gaming laptops due to portability and a bit of lack of space for a desktop. Also, by choosing a good/great model it won't be as "obsolete" too quick... while I don't play as much AAA games that require powerful requirements such as Cyberpunk 2077 (for example) I take into consideration hardware due to its obsolescence rather than performance (e.g. playing in Ultra High settings on 1440p) due to the lack of upgrades on a laptop. While desktops have a clear advantages compared to laptops I think both of them are great choices and it all depends on one's prefference. Eventually, I'd plan on upgrade on a desktop since I don't study anymore but for the time being I still love gaming laptops due to portability reasons and I don't really "mind" too much about ultra-high settings so this Asus TUF A15 (2023/RTX 4050/16GB DDR5RAM model, sadly FHD display) will be my last purchase. This channel has educated me a lot regarding gaming laptops and I can't thank you enough to make smarter purchases in the last 6 years. Thanks for the video!
I have both. A Main gaming desktop at my study (Ryzen 5 7500F, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 Super). Gaming laptop as my bedside rig and for work. (Acer Predator 14 with a 13700H and RTX 4070 which was what Jarrod has been looking for).
Waaaaaaiiiit a second, thats crazy (the good kind). I remember when i was waiting preparing to buy a laptop a few years ago (realizing it was probably 2018/19 bruh), i was watching EVERY laptop review from Dave2D others and you. Now i only watch once in a while videos on interesting laptops or videos other than a review like this one. And i just realized you were at 700k subs... Subed when you were 20k or maybe even less... Glad to see your perseverance, quality yet surely monotone work paid off !! Road to the millions i guess. (I BELIEVE YOU WILL ;)
I use a gaming laptop. I like to be able to Port it over to my buddy's house so we can play games together, and I bought an extra power adapter and keep it in my laptop bag so I don't have to remember it every time.. easy peasy.
I have a Lenovo legion pro 5 with a i7 13700hx and a 32 gigs of RAM with a 4070 8 GB and I bought a WD black sn850X 2TB m.2 put my games on. I can play most games in 1440p med high settings.. in the future I will buy an egpu and a 4090 to play more demanding games at home and have the 4070 for on the go...about to buy a gaming monitor 34in curved with 144hz refresh. I use this laptop to make music as well and I need it to be portable for shows. It's kind of my all-in-one.
When getting a laptop or pc, consider the games you play as well. I have a surface book 3 with a 1660ti that can play all the games that I play (and plenty of games that I want to play but haven’t yet) and I still get the amazing battery life doing schoolwork.
I’m literally watching this video after watching your videos about the predator Helios 2 years ago so it sounded almost like you were trolling saying they sponsored this video 😂 good on them.
Another thing to consider on this, is that at least on the higher end, laptop cpu's are comfortably around the same level of performance as desktop cpu's, so if you get a laptop with a great cpu, you theoretically can plug an eGPU to extend its usability in the future.
FYI, i'm playing on an msi gf63 with rtx 3050TI at 40W max, and it runs all games (yes you won't be ray tracing or maxing everything without frame drops) but you will play all games at 1080p. buying an rtx 4060 asus strix g18 soon, i'm sure the jump will be insane. don't let sellers tell you or youtube channels tell you, you need an rtx 4080 or some crazy stuff to play modern games, you can max all games with an rtx 4060 or 4070, unless you're planning on running 4k or 2k with path tracing on like cyberpunk then you will need 4080 or 4090. i'll let more experienced people talk about using workloads, as i'm not experienced at that. but gaming wise you can get a budget 4060 or 4070 and just enjoy the experience even 4050 is decent enough (just make sure they have 100W TDP) also a tip, if you're going somewhere and don't want to carry a charger, i always keep some old games like morrowind ready, it can run on battery no issues or disciples 2.
@entropicking6007 Oh okay man, but i think thats not really true, because roblox is very not demanding and i think hitting 120 fps on max settings will be easy. thanks for the reply
I had MSI Katana with RTX3050 too for 2.5 years and I played BF2042 at low, Full HD too. It did the job. But a little more detail would mean a lot as I play as a pilot and targets are minimal when you look down from SKY as a pilot. There are videos on youtube that show the FPS difference. RTX4060 is basically same in laptop-desktop but RTX4070 level, the average difference is %45 which matters in you want to play high, in Full HD or 1440p. ASUS Rog Strix only RTX4080 GPU has liquid metal applied. RTX4070 and 60 has normal paste btw.
Basically a gaming laptop is usually more expensive, Abit less reliable, Nosier, Hotter, But are more efficient with power draw usage, More compact and suitable for small apartments and travels. And also the secrets that you aren't being told are: Most of them produce alot of fan noise on heavy usage unless they have good cooling and you set a mid fan profile gaming mode. AND UNPLUGGED you can't run any demanding games, They will run on barely 60fps on low-mie graphics and drain the battery.
I have a Legion 5 where the GPU died after 3 years. Now it's just a regular laptop that's heavy and doesn't even last 3 hours on a new 80Wh battery. The dead GPU makes the CPU run on its max 30W TDP all the time. I'd still buy a gaming laptop for portability but I'd be weary of buying the really expensive ones.
even for pure performance its not as easy as people think, I always tell my customers that you never pick desktop specs or laptop models before understanding the FPS or Performance per dollar. In june I was able to snag an LOQ from Lenovo with 13650hx and 4060 for $660 which is a steal, even if I wanted a desktop I would've skipped it just because this will perform better than any desktop setup for under $700. Other than the obvious advantages and disadvantages of desktops and laptops I would sometimes think about what is best for me and not just "Desktops performance is better than laptops"
Gaming laptop because at the time gpu prices were so high it didn’t make sense to get both. A standard laptop + desktop would’ve been ideal but oh well
If you want to game on the go-gaming laptop. If you want the best gaming experience home and a light laptop when away, get a pc and a non gaming laptp (or dock a 14inch gaming laptop maybe). If you dont move, but are constrained on space, build itx. It is that simple
#6 Maintenance. Maybe I'm lazy, but with my old laptop I would just need to clean the little fan once a year, or even less. But I built my dream gaming pc about 2 years ago, and I have to clean it twice a year, and it's not something quick to do. For my next pc most likely I'll go for something like some of those minisforum mini pc, what I have now is overkill anyways, but it was a whim I had for over a decade haha.
@killamain6405 had a rtx 3080 pc,got a 3070ti alienware laptop,it's fine especially at the 1080p screen but man does it feel like a downgrade,if I could have taken my pc with me I wouldn't have sold it
I don’t really go out anywhere 💀, but I wanted a laptop for more space in my desk and a clean aesthetic, but paying $3,000+ for the best of the best while losing some performance in exchange for portability(which I don’t need) just don’t make sense to me. Great video! In my case I’m just better off with more performance since I don’t need anything portable right now
I have been using a desktop for 10++ years, replaced GPU and CPU several times, have been the go to for gaming compared to consoles. However, the downside for me is that its now bottlenecking my GPU unless i change the motherboard and CPU and also due to power outage in my area the parts can get damaged. Have tried using UPS but it doesn't help if I'm AFK when the power goes out (can't safely turn off my PC). Sadly the unplanned power outages often happens and its unpredictable. That's why I'm really considering to go for a laptop coz of the uptime with the battery since I will use it like a desktop plugged in all the time to power and if there's an outage i don't even have to worry anymore. It does cost more than a desktop but the CONVENIENCE and SECURITY of not having worry about power outage/component breaking due to power outage should make up for it. Hopefully 5 years later it can still be usable and enough to save for a new laptop.
I Live on an Island with regular Power failure issues. I have a UPS for my PC and Router, My Laptop is docked in my Bed room. I usually turn off My PC when I go bed or leave the house. I will put my laptop and hard drives away (and out of sight) when I leave the house. I never took advantage of it, but I had one UPS that had a feature including a USB connector, so that in the event you are AFK when the power outage happens, it will follow your default command (Like, following a shut down procedure, if power remained off after 5 minutes) I don't know how reliable that was though. (I'm paranoid about leaving my PC on while I am away)
I think main problem with a gaming laptop is their fans are working so loudly because of how tiny they are. I am staying in a small fucking dormitory room with four guys and it's impossible to play some demanding games(even the games from 2015) due to so much noise.
Great breakdown of the laptop vs. desktop dilemma for gamers. 👍 I think you nailed it when you said it all comes down to individual needs. 💯 For me, portability is key, 🚶♂ so I'm always on the lookout for a powerful gaming laptop that won't break the bank. 💰 The Acer Predator Helios neo6 seems like a solid option, especially for 1440p gaming. 😎 One thing I'd add is that the hybrid approach is becoming increasingly popular, especially with cloud gaming services getting better. ☁ A powerful desktop at home 🏠 paired with a mid-range laptop for on-the-go gaming and streaming could be the sweet spot for many. 🎯 Keep up the great content! 🚀
My 7600S laptop recently died...I was planning on just picking up another laptop for 1200 as I waited for my refund, but in the end I realised I could just get a full beefy upgrade for my PC considering I already had a keyboard, mouse and 1440p monitor to work with. So I got myself a 7600x CPU and 4070 super on its way and Im so excited and only had to pay 165 after my refund for everything
The only reason to get a gaming laptop is portability. Otherwise don't do it. Gaming Desktops are much more stable in gaming experience and you will be more happy. Depends on the specs of course.
I'm on the fence which one to buy. It will be my first ever gaming laptop or PC so I don't wanna rush it. I want Laptop due to the portability but a good gaming laptop is about 3 times more expensive than buying the same spec Desktop and since I'm on a limited budget at the moment, it's such a difficult choice for me right now.
1 thing Desktop can last much longer than a Laptop as gaming workload can make laptop parts expired within 5 years but laptop portability is such a blessing
This is not true lol i have my gaming laptop acer aspire vx15 gtx 1050 ti 16gb ram for 10yrs now it still good and running well it still can play some games like valorant night crow genshin dota 2 csgo2 and ive been using this laptop everyday it only sleep for 2hrs then play again it depends on how u treat ur device if u want to last it for yrs then treat it well
Summary: Portability main: Laptop Performance main: Desktop You gotta pay extra for the portability The downside is upgradability You can get a desktop only if portability is not an issue
Both a Gaming Laptop and a Gaming Desktop are PC's. When did this trend of exclusively calling Desktop's PC's start? They are both Personal Computers (PC's).
Thanks for the overview comparison of desktops and laptops as the two mainstream device types. It might also be worth comparing with some of the niche devices like handhelds (Steam Deck, Ally, Legion Go, Aya), or perhaps mini pcs?
For me, the heat build up of a laptop bothers me. I only got it because I don't have the space for a gaming desktop or the money. But I'd definitely go for a desktop over a laptop if you have the cash. Better and bigger screen. Keyboard that stays cool. I know you can plug those things into a laptop but again I've got the space issue.
Doesn't matter too much to me, I know how to fix both. Know how both work. Been fixing and building gaming pc and laptop since I was 15. No need to waste money on buying when you know how to fix it.😅
Blender actually works pretty decently on battery. Aside from the final render, Blender is a bursty workload, and only hits the GPU when interacting with it, and even then, only fires up the dGPU when using Rendered preview. Additionally, Nvidia’s Optix api is highly efficient at ray tracing workloads, so I find even on battery, I get a pretty responsive experience when using the Rendered preview.
as a student, a laptop is a must plus i dont have the space for a tower pc nore the time or the knowledge to maintin it well so a laptop is just way better in my situation
Oh fr tbh. Gaming laptops are a fantastic entry point if you have absolutely nothing. While you have one, you can slowly build up your peripherals over time so that it's not a huge upfront cost if you switch to a desktop. If I had to buy literally every peripheral when I switched to desktop, it would've doubled the price. Thankfully I already had an ex-second monitor to use, and that was able to tide me over a few months until I got a new monitor.
asus rog strix 17 7945hx3d rtx 4080 laptop here. Definitely good enough for my gaming needs... and i can move quickly. Otherwise i would have gone with a desktop build, cheaper and/or more powerful.
The problem is, for the price of a good gaming laptop, you can buy a desktop pc and a bad laptop for office tasks… I am considering a gaming laptop too but its just too expensive.. and the “240hertz” screen makes no sense cause there is no game that will get 240fps
Modern gaming laptop mostly cabable of throttling at 100 degrees:)) i have 3(Zephyrus g14, ROG STRIX G16 4080, Alienware m15 3070) of them, and all 3 of them constantly throttle and overheat, rebooting by itself occasionally, especially the Zephyrus. Go for desktop if not absolutely critical to have laptop.
Hi Jarrod, I am a big fan of your work. Recently I discovered the Cybernetics website the have a tier list for PSU and was amazed by their Noise Rating ranking. My next Desktop will surely have a A++ Noiose Rating PSU. What if you also start building a tier list like that for Laptops. For example Noise Levels ratings while playing Cyberpunk/Warzone at locked 60FPS on Medium settings? Currently I have a Lenovo Legion 14 Oled with RTX 4060. And I can play on it on Quiet mode. And for now on I will only buy gaming laptops that can game quietly. I cannot go back from here :)
To sum it up, in my opinion... *GAMING LAPTOPS CANNOT HANDLE HEAT LIKE PCs AND THE "MOBILE" VERSIONS OF THE GRAPHIC CARDS ARE WEAKER AND ACT LIKE THE CARD CAME BEFORE THEM* For example, my 3060 Mobile acts like 3050. End of story. 🙂 EDIT: Of course, i prefer laptop for portability but i also want to get into the PC version of the story with a *R7 7800X3D and RX 7900 GRE/7900 XTX* wish me luck! ❤
@@waferbarr I am sorry, are the one who have a freaking HP Victus with a useless 3060 Mobile graphics card? Are you the one who having heat and performance issues with the laptop? I must be mistaken. 😒🖕
My 2060 laptop works like a charm for the past 4 years. Never had overheating, GPU always settled at 66 and CPU never exceed 80c. 3060 and 3070 laptops is like 8% difference from their desktop counterparts. The gap gets more narrow when it comes to 4060 since they are both power efficient. The new CPU in laptops which are HX series they are literally same as desktops expect they are a little bit Power efficient, even tho that i7 13700hx can reach 100w is insane.
As someone who has and loves his laptop, in most cases you only need a desktop in most cases, and in my country desktops are often cheaper than the laptops. my laptop I like tho
Hi there can you please suggest me some good cooling pads for my Acer predator helios neo 16 2023 model Also can you please suggest both budget and expensive ones Do you think it is necessary for the laptop?
anything suit your usages, but indeed laptop can be desktop and desktop cant one suggestion, watch videos and pics potrait in potrait mode, its whole different looking, really like different, trust me bro
Got a monster desktop and a laptop that's equivalent (technically faster) myself. I dislike compromise now that I have the ability to _do something_ about it. Price isn't as big of a problem at the higher-end as it used to be. My laptop w/ 13900HX and a 4080 went for around $1800 barebones, and with deal-hunting I got a 48GB kit of memory, a 1TB NVMe and a 4TB NVMe without much of a problem, totaled out at around $2200. Not too far off from what a comparable desktop would net you at the same price.
As someone who has gamed on desktops since early 2000s, i am seriously looking into a gaming laptop now. I travel for work 13-15 weeks each year, and my desktop has been crashing the last few days due to hardware going out. Does anyone have a suggestion on a reputable laptop brand, and is it possible to obtain performance levels similar or better than a 3080ti with a Ryzen 7 5800 and 32gb ram? I built my current PC back in mid-late 2021, so I'm hoping I can find a laptop that can outperform that, if possible, with a budget of $2500.
Hey Jarrod great video I'm in a predicament I just received a brand new hp Invictus rtx 4050 laptop 75 watt after watching one of your videos I decided to buy one. When first starting the laptop I accidentally played on a un even surface for 5 mins and the laptop overheated and turned off by it self must of blocked the air flow or something. Now when I play games like Cyberpunk I only get 50 to 60 fps on medium settings and dlss aint working properly but frame gen is, and I'm getting no reading of gpu power and temperature in GeForce experience application I've updated all latest drivers I'm at my wits end thanks dude
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Only bought a gaming laptop because I go to college so I'd have to travel a lot
99% of the reason I’m going with one too. Also room is basically a cupboard so room is super limited lol.
Yea, same, I'm an international student so I need something to take with me.
Thats what I did in college as a computer science engineering student. Everyone did. After that when you get a job, they give you Macbook Pro. Then you won't need it lol
exact same reason lol. Had the budget for a high end desktop but this september I'm off to collage and a laptop is just more practical, especially on graphic design.
Yeah I had one when I was a student too, that's when it makes the most sense tbh. Everyone I know who's had gaming laptops in the past had them while they were a student and got a desktop later
For some years, I decided to build my own gaming PC with dual monitor setup. I love the flexibility, performance and upgrade. But then I learned that I don't really need that much power since I rarely game with my PC so I switched to a gaming laptop.
On a CPU side, a gaming laptop still gives me a desktop grade performance while the mobile GPU can provide me with decent power whenever I want to play games. I treat my gaming laptop more like a desktop replacement/mobile workstation since I use my larger screen at home combined with the laptop's internal display at home to do productivity/multitasking stuff and I can just bring my gaming laptop with me whenever I need to move out from my home to work or game elsewhere.
I don't really miss having a desktop at this point. I just love having a setup that I can bring anywhere and deliver the same power whenever and wherever I use it as long as I carry my adaptor. If you want to save a lot more, a desktop will be the better option. But if you have some use cases that you need flexibility and want to sacrifice performance and pay more, a gaming laptop is better.
Same here! Back when I was a hardcore gamer (before all of the adult responsibilities), a gaming PC made total sense. Now that I game casually, all of that power doesn't matter much anymore.
Which laptop u using?
Same for me, using the laptop screen as a secondary monitor for productivity. It never moved from the desk, I even have a smaller netbook for travelling.
I was in mini-ITX and overclocking and such when I was younger but I got fed up, a mid range gaming laptop is all I need for the games I play, it use less power, and the the battery act as an UPS.
For me the main drawbacks are peak performance compared to a desktop, a bit more expensive, and the noise when going full blast (even if I only use headphones now). I don't really care for upgradability, improvements in hardware have slowed down you're likely to have to change everything with a longer upgrade cycle.
Ayeeee same here as well, but I still have my desktop. I just love using a laptop, because of its low power consumption and great performance. I am one of the few who has the same GPU in both laptop and desktop.
This is exactly my viewpoint. Pretty much word for word
Most popular games don't require top of the line graphics. Boomer Shooters, pixel games, base building, and most RPG's for starters; a 4060 will play almost everything on a mobile
Pac-Man, DigDug, Pong, you can't have enough GPU's for those games. 😹
Playing Kingdom Come Deliverance on an RTX 4060 Lenovo LOQ and getting 60 fps on very high settings, more than enough for me
A 780m will play most stuff. I leave my 4090 Legion 7 at home now in favor of traveling with a Zenbook 14 8840HS.
@@LoneTigerDigDug goes hard. Love that game lol
Both! Desktop for home, laptop for travel
but what if you don't travel
yeah if you have the money why not both
Tiny small case desktop with mini monitor for travel.
Massive msi laptop for home use.
I use laptop to play games on bed...
@@michaelwesten4624The whole point of a laptop is for travel.
My 2 main reasons for a laptop:
1) My area has a power outage every couple of months. I don't like losing all my working data. A battery is great for that.
2) It fits nicely under my TV with all the other devices.
Having a battery backup UPS solves #1 and you can make small form factor builds that fit in places consoles can.
@@smallbutdeadly931Yeah but good online ups cost a lot of money and are expensive to maintain due to battery draining overtime. Ups maybe feasible for a 600 w build but above that, it gets very expensive.
I love my g16 use it everyday . Mostly at home too . But sometimes I’m in bed . Sometimes im in the kitchen or the desk . I’m not bound to any place .
When I enrolled in my university (computer degree), I was kinda shocked how many students have their own laptop, and mostly it was a gaming one, usually not so expensive (around $1000, I don't live in a rich country), and I was shocked even more when I saw that in a moderately thin case I can have even more power than my previous pc with i3 10100 and gtx 1660s, thanks progress for letting us have quite powerful and portable laptops, at least in cheap and middle segment
Where can I buy laptops of 1000s. A link of a good laptop please
@@priscusgodwinLenovo Legion has pretty good laptops. The Slim or Pro series
@@priscusgodwinWhere do you live?
@@santhoshsridhar5887 Germany 🇩🇪
Upgrading is myth gamers like to perpetuate. Most people never upgrade their build beyond storage. The majority just build a new one in about 5-7 later. Outside of the case, when you get new mobo, your getting a new cpu, probably a new gen of ram, which usually means new coolers. So outside of the psu and fans……..you’ve built a new pc
I bought the 2021 Legion 5 Pro because of your channel a year ago! It kicks ass in every game in my years long backlog!
Was using gaming laptops from 10+ years but last year decided to sell my brand new one and build system again, since more than 10 years and now quite happy with 7800 xt, 7500f and DDRR5 6400 CL30 and building it myself was priceless!
What are the tips for using a laptop? I had one, but it crashed permanently. I was breaking the speed of a screen card for a long time 😅 Two years later, I collected money, and now I am thinking of buying a new laptop.
The timing is amazing. I'm 8 year laptop-user computer engineer. For my degree, I needed laptop. Before that I build desktops etc... 2 days ago I finally sold my old katana laptop and thought should I switch to desktops since my company already gives me Mac Pro that I can use on vacations etc. 3 days ago I found this channel and this video comes. Talk about timing.
I think new laptop will be fine. I use external everything but RTX3050 (Katana MSI) did job enough for FL studio & BF2042 on Full HD low settings etc. People exaggrate their needs. Laptops are fine. Unless you are streamer,pro gamer etc.
Also, my MSI Katana once had a video-output problem to external monitor. Give it to service and they replaced the motherboard completely from warranty. You can't do that on desktop PCs.
I basically had NEW laptop with new motherboard which is basically %90 of the PC. They also replaced the back-case for my pleasure %5 from there. Laptop warranty is AMAZING. In Desktop, you can't ask them to replace PSU for motherboard problem for example.
++ You won't be worried about suddenly losing electricity and fucking your PC when electrics go down. Laptops won't shut it down like desktops and cause failuers et.c
@ 4:40 Another way to look at Laptop Batteries is as if they were a built in UPS.
Even though many PC users overlook the UPS, a UPS should be included on any build (or any high value piece of electronic gadgetry)
Yeah that's how I see them for the larger laptops, at least I can move my machine around a little without shutting down too
Gaming on my bed is so much fun and relaxing. Had a desktop before and I don't regret having a gaming laptop now.
This. It's not just travelling. I enjoyed gaming on my sofa with a laptop, it was just a lot more comfortable.
A desktop is nice, but sitting upright in a chair is just less comfortable. I did however sell my gaming laptop and build a gaming PC just because I was getting fed up of paying for whole laptops over and over with each upgrade - rather than individual components.
Good luck cleaning those air vents 👍
I understand gaming on a couch, but how do you game using a laptop on your bed? Seems uncomfortable.
@@SeaWhiz Right? Can't use it on your bare lap because it burns. So then you have to have a laptop table because you can't use it on sheets. And at that point you're sitting up at a weird angle or without your back supported. I never used to game in bed with a laptop 'cause it was just awful
@@MrIssa2021If you keep up your cleaning, it's really not that bad.
I'll have my laptops on pretty much every surface and every room of my home for one reason or another.
They've been rather dust free during my internal cleanings that I do every 2 or 3 years.
Desktop for me. I had laptops and now it will cost more to repair than buying a new desktop/laptop
For me laptop it’s just a lot better can take it everywhere edit videos much better
It all comes down to portability honestly. If you have a stable job and life at one place, a desktop is the better option. Otherwise, laptops ftw
Or, you could be a nut like me (or worse) and have 2 personal desktops, another desktop for living room TV and 2 laptops.😄
@@cremer2027 dude what the fuck 😂
@@cremer2027 must be funny in the richman's world, no? :)
the most underrated TH-camr here , I was able to finalize what laptop to buy only after seeing your videos
Wasn’t sure whether to buy a gaming laptop at first so I started doing some research and came across your channel. After watching a few videos I’ve decided to subscribe. One of the best informative channels I’ve come across and your videos are also entertaining. I was wondering if you’d consider making a video of different laptops for different tasks eg; graphic design, music creation, gaming, streaming, content creation, etc. If you were to put a laptop in at the end that combined a bit of all of them would be amazing. 100% looking forward to seeing more of your content
I have both. Using my laptop for more chill games that i can play from my couch, and my desktop for FPS and more fast paced and demanding games.
just upgraded from gaming laptop, and build my first mini itx case. 7800x3d + 4070super in a case the size of a shoebox (Lian Li a4 h2o).
Since im not gaming on my laptopscreen either it works decently well for me. It still (barely) fits in my backpack if im taking it with me, but ofcourse cant game on the go.
you don't even ever wanted to bring that ITX for the second time, imagine the peripheral hassle...
it's just not worth it. The thing is prone to damage. Desktoo are meant to use on a desk...
7800x3d/4080 Ultrawide OLED at home, Legion 14 OLED 4060 OTG. thanks for recommending that one Jarrod, it's amazing!
What people need to know when calculating the cost is that laptop GPUs often use one tier lower chip then a GPU with the same name. For example laptop 4080 is very similar to desktop 4070, laptop 4070 and 4060 are very similar to desktop 4060. Makes comparing the costs way easier and more straightforward.
I have a desktop pc with 4070 and a 14.5 inch laptop with a lower powered 3050 that can be fully supplied with power via 100w type-c charger, so no compromises in portability.
Main advantage of the desktop for me is how quiet it can be, if properly built it can be entirely silent, which is great for people who appreciate open back headphones.
Full-sized gaming laptops are great for people who travel/move a lot or who regularly need portable gpu power, but for many people a light laptop(possibly even without discrete GPU) + a desktop is a very strong and versatile option.
You're the reason why I chose a gaming laptop rather than building my own PC. The second reason is because of my course (Architecture); I need a portable, powerful enough machine to work on my plates/designs. By the way, my laptop is almost 3 years old now, LOL, and it can still handle new games and some architecture software. So yeah, I think it was a great choice to pick the laptop over a desktop (maybe after I graduate from Architecture, I'll build my own desktop). For those wondering what gaming laptop I bought, I know this is controversial, but hear me out-this is a different spec model of that brand and model: I purchased the Acer Predator Helios 300 with a 1440p 165Hz display, an i7-11800H CPU, an RTX 3060 6GB 115W GPU, and 16GB 3200MHz RAM (single channel), but I plan to upgrade it soon to 32GB of RAM (dual channel).
how to upgrade ram on laptop? Im a newbie btw
After using Gaming laptops for years, I finally moved to Desktop Gaming PC. I built two recently one with AMD R9 5900x and the other one with i7-14700KF. Definitely huge performance boost but as you said Jarrod its quite costly to run especially energy prices are up everywhere. I own Lenovo Legion 5-15ACH6H RTX 3070 paired with AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, Graphics are very good but the processor heats up badly in gaming so I have to limit FPS to 61 max to reduce the heat. The fans cannot disperse the heat fast even after changing some settings in Bios and the cpu temps reach 95C in some games. I cannot teach the keyboard so I have to use external keyboard and mouse. The fans are so loud during gaming even louder than my desktop pc fans. With all the huge money spent on gaming laptops, try to build a powerful gaming desktop pc. its not that difficult but you need some experience how to install AIO CPU liquid cooler and the right connectors on the motherboards.
Laptop user here, have an MSI Raider with a RTX 3080, so far love it, it was expensive, but it's worth it. Recently upgraded the NVME sticks from 3Tb total to 8Tb. The battery life is quite decent and so far the battery has behaved very well.
My previous laptop was an ACER Predator with an RTX 1070, but every time I played a game, the battery began to provide extra power, (While also connected to a power brick) and the battery degraded very quickly to the point it no longer charges.
If you want a good laptop, make sure the power brick provides all the power you will need without draining the battery, the MSI does this very well.
Also, if you get a laptop, get a decent raised cooling base WITH filters, and with foam seals for the bottom of the laptop, dust is the bane of all laptops, keep it dust free and it'll last you years. 👍
8tb!!!! Wow!! That’s nice
What about the power/electricity? It’s quite a big factor no one talks about. Let’s compare the wattage (W). Gaming PC with the same power as laptop uses around 2x more electricity than a laptop. In my country + considering my time and tasks I do, it is around 250 € difference every year in electricity bills. So yeah, gaming pc is cheaper when you consider price to performance value, but you need to count the electricity usage.
wrote the comment before watching the whole video :D
@@thomassleziak1222 you're a clown
It is such a good point that people don't actually realise what they need or just say future proof. Even a 4060 laptop playing games at 1080p or 1440p is a great performer that a lot of the PC crowd would be happy with but they just see laptop and write it off. Even if they are buying a pc with also a 4060 or rx 7600xt or 6700xt or 3060 ti and getting basically the same or only slightly higher performance. This applies to other tech like flagship 1000 dollar phones when with how most people use their phone they would be happy with a mid range Samsung phone and wouldn't even notice a difference but yet the culture in America is the newest iPhone always having the new iphone it's very silly.
personally I think as Windows gaming handhelds become more mature and the chips more capable, I see them taking a huge bite out of the gaming laptop marketshare in the future
This.
My main reason for a laptop is because i live in another country and in my apartment have not much space. Yet need to travel a lot.
Traveling is the big reason to get a laptop, especially since they are much thinner and lighter in 2024 than they ever have been. A desktop will always be superior but it doesn't close and carry as easily as a laptop.
Desktop may be for people that really needed, like if you want to create a high performance setup with three monitors (for a simracing Rig for example) you really need the three display ports that a desktop GPU has. Hard to found that on a Laptop. In the other hand, laptops nowadays are quite powerful for most task, so you almost have all you need on that option.
I just have a RTX 3050 laptop with a dock setup, hooked up to a 1440p monitor and my peripherals. This way, I still can get a pretty damn good experience (though the card does struggle quite a bit at 1440p games, but that's nothing tweaking settings can't fix) while still having the ability to disconnect and go elsewhere in the event of a power outage (which happen quite a bit here) or if I just wanna work on my couch.
I work 12hr shifts 6 days a week so a gaming laptop allow me to game at work when i have free time, also thanks for the hard work! ❤
why do you work so much? i hope you get paid really well.
@@BG1435q honestly I wouldn't work that much whatever the salary was, I'm already struggling with an 8 hour from home LOL
@@BG1435qthat's normal hours and days if you want more in this world. Your not getting anywhere working an 8 hour shift 4 or 5 days a week at McDonald's.
That's a lot of work! Thanks for the support
@@BG1435q yes but is it worth it? 😭
I don‘t have the space for a huge screen + desktop setup anymore since I lost my „man cave“ to my own children. I paid roughly 1000€ more for my Legion 7 4090 than for a comparable desktop, but I get to actually use it whenever the occasion arises.
We need better docks with a PCIe slot
So you can take your Laptop with you and have a high performing Desktop set up at home
I have a Lenovo Legion 5 14 inch laptop. Best purchase ever. Gaming laptops just have a lot of use cases. You can argue is better than a ROG Ally to play even in bed. And when It's connected, never leave the silent fan profile and I play everything, including AW2 and Cyberpunk 2077 at medium.
The main issue for me with gaming laptops is the heat. Until two years ago, I never owned a laptop, but I got an M1 MacBook Pro, and it completely changed how I view comfort. Most of the time, I use it in bed, whether for work or play. And yes, it does play games-I've used it for Ryujinx, BOTW on Cemu, Hades 2, Hollow Knight, Nier Automata, and I’m planning to play Yakuza soon.
I've realized that I game more and enjoy it more because I'm comfortable while playing. My MacBook doesn't heat up much, and the weight is so well-balanced that it doesn’t hurt after a few hours. The max temperature it reaches is about 43°C, and the fan noise is practically nonexistent (I play with speakers).
That’s the only gripe I have with gaming laptops-they need to be cool, quiet, and powerful at the same time. I’ve had the impression that gaming laptops struggle with this, but I could be wrong, especially with recent advancements like ARM on the rise. Apple’s slow start to integrating gaming is promising, but I’m itching to get back into Windows because I miss gaming.
I only recently started gaming again in 2024 after selling my gaming PC in 2021 to focus on studying. It’s crazy how much support there is for gaming on a Mac now, which is far beyond what I expected. I just wish there was a gaming laptop with the weight balancing, cooling, and efficiency of a MacBook, combined with the performance and compatibility of gaming on Windows.
I’ve also considered the Steam Deck, which could solve my issues altogether, but I’m unsure how comfortable it would be or if the screen size would be a drawback.
Been using a gaming laptops since 2017 when I left home for collage. I had a bulky asus with a 1070 that tbf was still running most games I played in 1080p (especially competitive stuff). It as mainly a desktop replacement as the battery was really poor to actually carry it to class. (I got a 2015 macbook off ebay for that)
After collage, I had to make a decision if I wanted to upgrade to a desktop or replace the laptop (since I actually had my own money). Decided to go with a laptop still, the lenovo 7i 4090. Still used as a desktop replacement hooked up to multiple monitors. I made this decision just because I was so used to having the same machine with me wherever I go and I do end up being away at least one month each year back to homecountry.
However, every time I think what desktop I could have got for the same money... Maybe I should have kept the old laptop and got a desktop instead. For sure my next PC will be a desktop.
I ditched desktops 10 years ago....never going back either....laptop does everything I need for the gaming I do, I run external monitor, keyboard and mouse....takes almost no Room at all. I also have a really small room, so things are kinda tight with my guitars and music equipment in here. But I just don't see the point of a desktop, my laptop plays GTA5, Dying Light, Killing Floor, and those kind of general games on Medium to High.....I'm good with that.
I already have both, but I clicked on this video because I like your style.
I bought a gaming laptop because I went to college. After I was done with college, I decided to stick (for now) with gaming laptops due to portability and a bit of lack of space for a desktop.
Also, by choosing a good/great model it won't be as "obsolete" too quick... while I don't play as much AAA games that require powerful requirements such as Cyberpunk 2077 (for example) I take into consideration hardware due to its obsolescence rather than performance (e.g. playing in Ultra High settings on 1440p) due to the lack of upgrades on a laptop.
While desktops have a clear advantages compared to laptops I think both of them are great choices and it all depends on one's prefference.
Eventually, I'd plan on upgrade on a desktop since I don't study anymore but for the time being I still love gaming laptops due to portability reasons and I don't really "mind" too much about ultra-high settings so this Asus TUF A15 (2023/RTX 4050/16GB DDR5RAM model, sadly FHD display) will be my last purchase.
This channel has educated me a lot regarding gaming laptops and I can't thank you enough to make smarter purchases in the last 6 years.
Thanks for the video!
I have both. A Main gaming desktop at my study (Ryzen 5 7500F, 32GB RAM, RTX 4070 Super).
Gaming laptop as my bedside rig and for work. (Acer Predator 14 with a 13700H and RTX 4070 which was what Jarrod has been looking for).
Waaaaaaiiiit a second, thats crazy (the good kind).
I remember when i was waiting preparing to buy a laptop a few years ago (realizing it was probably 2018/19 bruh), i was watching EVERY laptop review from Dave2D others and you.
Now i only watch once in a while videos on interesting laptops or videos other than a review like this one.
And i just realized you were at 700k subs... Subed when you were 20k or maybe even less...
Glad to see your perseverance, quality yet surely monotone work paid off !!
Road to the millions i guess.
(I BELIEVE YOU WILL ;)
First time watching a Jarrod video on new laptop 💪
I use a gaming laptop. I like to be able to Port it over to my buddy's house so we can play games together, and I bought an extra power adapter and keep it in my laptop bag so I don't have to remember it every time.. easy peasy.
I have a Lenovo legion pro 5 with a i7 13700hx and a 32 gigs of RAM with a 4070 8 GB and I bought a WD black sn850X 2TB m.2 put my games on. I can play most games in 1440p med high settings.. in the future I will buy an egpu and a 4090 to play more demanding games at home and have the 4070 for on the go...about to buy a gaming monitor 34in curved with 144hz refresh. I use this laptop to make music as well and I need it to be portable for shows. It's kind of my all-in-one.
When getting a laptop or pc, consider the games you play as well. I have a surface book 3 with a 1660ti that can play all the games that I play (and plenty of games that I want to play but haven’t yet) and I still get the amazing battery life doing schoolwork.
Going from both. Desktop and High End Laptops have mostly the same experience imo. Aside from Fan Noise and Portability.
I’m literally watching this video after watching your videos about the predator Helios 2 years ago so it sounded almost like you were trolling saying they sponsored this video 😂 good on them.
Another thing to consider on this, is that at least on the higher end, laptop cpu's are comfortably around the same level of performance as desktop cpu's, so if you get a laptop with a great cpu, you theoretically can plug an eGPU to extend its usability in the future.
FYI, i'm playing on an msi gf63 with rtx 3050TI at 40W max, and it runs all games (yes you won't be ray tracing or maxing everything without frame drops) but you will play all games at 1080p.
buying an rtx 4060 asus strix g18 soon, i'm sure the jump will be insane.
don't let sellers tell you or youtube channels tell you, you need an rtx 4080 or some crazy stuff to play modern games, you can max all games with an rtx 4060 or 4070, unless you're planning on running 4k or 2k with path tracing on like cyberpunk then you will need 4080 or 4090.
i'll let more experienced people talk about using workloads, as i'm not experienced at that. but gaming wise you can get a budget 4060 or 4070 and just enjoy the experience even 4050 is decent enough (just make sure they have 100W TDP)
also a tip, if you're going somewhere and don't want to carry a charger, i always keep some old games like morrowind ready, it can run on battery no issues or disciples 2.
Im still using my old gaming laptop with i7 7700hq and gtx1050 😂
Yoo cool man. im about to get that laptop, how many fps u think ill get in roblox man
specs:
i7 11800h
rtx 3050
@@Jim-kk4ys i honestly don't know, i don't play roblox.
but i googled and it seems you will get like 60 to 80 fps.
@entropicking6007 Oh okay man, but i think thats not really true, because roblox is very not demanding and i think hitting 120 fps on max settings will be easy. thanks for the reply
I had MSI Katana with RTX3050 too for 2.5 years and I played BF2042 at low, Full HD too. It did the job. But a little more detail would mean a lot as I play as a pilot and targets are minimal when you look down from SKY as a pilot.
There are videos on youtube that show the FPS difference. RTX4060 is basically same in laptop-desktop but RTX4070 level, the average difference is %45 which matters in you want to play high, in Full HD or 1440p.
ASUS Rog Strix only RTX4080 GPU has liquid metal applied. RTX4070 and 60 has normal paste btw.
Basically a gaming laptop is usually more expensive, Abit less reliable, Nosier, Hotter, But are more efficient with power draw usage, More compact and suitable for small apartments and travels.
And also the secrets that you aren't being told are: Most of them produce alot of fan noise on heavy usage unless they have good cooling and you set a mid fan profile gaming mode.
AND UNPLUGGED you can't run any demanding games, They will run on barely 60fps on low-mie graphics and drain the battery.
I have a Legion 5 where the GPU died after 3 years. Now it's just a regular laptop that's heavy and doesn't even last 3 hours on a new 80Wh battery. The dead GPU makes the CPU run on its max 30W TDP all the time. I'd still buy a gaming laptop for portability but I'd be weary of buying the really expensive ones.
educational and informative as always alongside those magnificent data collected by testing different cards
just awesome
hats off to you
even for pure performance its not as easy as people think, I always tell my customers that you never pick desktop specs or laptop models before understanding the FPS or Performance per dollar.
In june I was able to snag an LOQ from Lenovo with 13650hx and 4060 for $660 which is a steal, even if I wanted a desktop I would've skipped it just because this will perform better than any desktop setup for under $700.
Other than the obvious advantages and disadvantages of desktops and laptops I would sometimes think about what is best for me and not just "Desktops performance is better than laptops"
Gaming laptop because at the time gpu prices were so high it didn’t make sense to get both. A standard laptop + desktop would’ve been ideal but oh well
I have Lenovo legion 7i pro 4080 I am Happy with that. Thanks to Jarrod it was right choice.
If you want to game on the go-gaming laptop. If you want the best gaming experience home and a light laptop when away, get a pc and a non gaming laptp (or dock a 14inch gaming laptop maybe). If you dont move, but are constrained on space, build itx. It is that simple
I considered a gaming laptop as a stationary system, but I could never live with the fan noise.
I've been doing it for 10 years, I hear absolutely Nothing with headphones on.....I only game with headphones anyways.
#6 Maintenance. Maybe I'm lazy, but with my old laptop I would just need to clean the little fan once a year, or even less. But I built my dream gaming pc about 2 years ago, and I have to clean it twice a year, and it's not something quick to do. For my next pc most likely I'll go for something like some of those minisforum mini pc, what I have now is overkill anyways, but it was a whim I had for over a decade haha.
Sold my desktop because i was moving countries for school,i miss it so badly, going down to a laptop was such a downgrade
What was your gpu on the desktop? I have a 4070 laptop and I love it
@killamain6405 had a rtx 3080 pc,got a 3070ti alienware laptop,it's fine especially at the 1080p screen but man does it feel like a downgrade,if I could have taken my pc with me I wouldn't have sold it
always my best Suhu and Guru for laptop and PC things!!!
I don’t really go out anywhere 💀, but I wanted a laptop for more space in my desk and a clean aesthetic, but paying $3,000+ for the best of the best while losing some performance in exchange for portability(which I don’t need) just don’t make sense to me.
Great video! In my case I’m just better off with more performance since I don’t need anything portable right now
I have been using a desktop for 10++ years, replaced GPU and CPU several times, have been the go to for gaming compared to consoles.
However, the downside for me is that its now bottlenecking my GPU unless i change the motherboard and CPU and also due to power outage in my area the parts can get damaged. Have tried using UPS but it doesn't help if I'm AFK when the power goes out (can't safely turn off my PC). Sadly the unplanned power outages often happens and its unpredictable.
That's why I'm really considering to go for a laptop coz of the uptime with the battery since I will use it like a desktop plugged in all the time to power and if there's an outage i don't even have to worry anymore. It does cost more than a desktop but the CONVENIENCE and SECURITY of not having worry about power outage/component breaking due to power outage should make up for it. Hopefully 5 years later it can still be usable and enough to save for a new laptop.
I Live on an Island with regular Power failure issues. I have a UPS for my PC and Router, My Laptop is docked in my Bed room. I usually turn off My PC when I go bed or leave the house. I will put my laptop and hard drives away (and out of sight) when I leave the house.
I never took advantage of it, but I had one UPS that had a feature including a USB connector, so that in the event you are AFK when the power outage happens, it will follow your default command (Like, following a shut down procedure, if power remained off after 5 minutes) I don't know how reliable that was though. (I'm paranoid about leaving my PC on while I am away)
I think main problem with a gaming laptop is their fans are working so loudly because of how tiny they are. I am staying in a small fucking dormitory room with four guys and it's impossible to play some demanding games(even the games from 2015) due to so much noise.
No B-Roll of Jarrod trying to fit a desktop into a bag? 😅
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The only problem with gaming laptops is the temperature, and then the fans get incredibly loud.there need to do something in the future about that
Great breakdown of the laptop vs. desktop dilemma for gamers. 👍 I think you nailed it when you said it all comes down to individual needs. 💯
For me, portability is key, 🚶♂ so I'm always on the lookout for a powerful gaming laptop that won't break the bank. 💰 The Acer Predator Helios neo6 seems like a solid option, especially for 1440p gaming. 😎
One thing I'd add is that the hybrid approach is becoming increasingly popular, especially with cloud gaming services getting better. ☁ A powerful desktop at home 🏠 paired with a mid-range laptop for on-the-go gaming and streaming could be the sweet spot for many. 🎯
Keep up the great content! 🚀
My 7600S laptop recently died...I was planning on just picking up another laptop for 1200 as I waited for my refund, but in the end I realised I could just get a full beefy upgrade for my PC considering I already had a keyboard, mouse and 1440p monitor to work with.
So I got myself a 7600x CPU and 4070 super on its way and Im so excited and only had to pay 165 after my refund for everything
The only reason to get a gaming laptop is portability. Otherwise don't do it. Gaming Desktops are much more stable in gaming experience and you will be more happy. Depends on the specs of course.
I'm on the fence which one to buy. It will be my first ever gaming laptop or PC so I don't wanna rush it. I want Laptop due to the portability but a good gaming laptop is about 3 times more expensive than buying the same spec Desktop and since I'm on a limited budget at the moment, it's such a difficult choice for me right now.
for me i choose laptop low-midrange laptop for mobility and get the job done then highend desktop for pleasurable gaming
Gaming Laptop is like having mini PC with keyboard and monitor..
1 thing Desktop can last much longer than a Laptop as gaming workload can make laptop parts expired within 5 years but laptop portability is such a blessing
This is not true lol i have my gaming laptop acer aspire vx15 gtx 1050 ti 16gb ram for 10yrs now it still good and running well it still can play some games like valorant night crow genshin dota 2 csgo2 and ive been using this laptop everyday it only sleep for 2hrs then play again it depends on how u treat ur device if u want to last it for yrs then treat it well
Summary:
Portability main: Laptop
Performance main: Desktop
You gotta pay extra for the portability
The downside is upgradability
You can get a desktop only if portability is not an issue
i like this channel. i get laptop info and metal band recommendations. keep it up J
Both a Gaming Laptop and a Gaming Desktop are PC's. When did this trend of exclusively calling Desktop's PC's start? They are both Personal Computers (PC's).
Started with marketing people. Some even think "PC" means Windows. Like "Mac or PC" 😂
@@KatRollo Ah I forgot about those old Mac or PC commercials with Justin Long. I think you're right.
Thanks for the overview comparison of desktops and laptops as the two mainstream device types.
It might also be worth comparing with some of the niche devices like handhelds (Steam Deck, Ally, Legion Go, Aya), or perhaps mini pcs?
For me, the heat build up of a laptop bothers me. I only got it because I don't have the space for a gaming desktop or the money. But I'd definitely go for a desktop over a laptop if you have the cash. Better and bigger screen. Keyboard that stays cool. I know you can plug those things into a laptop but again I've got the space issue.
Doesn't matter too much to me, I know how to fix both. Know how both work. Been fixing and building gaming pc and laptop since I was 15. No need to waste money on buying when you know how to fix it.😅
Blender actually works pretty decently on battery. Aside from the final render, Blender is a bursty workload, and only hits the GPU when interacting with it, and even then, only fires up the dGPU when using Rendered preview.
Additionally, Nvidia’s Optix api is highly efficient at ray tracing workloads, so I find even on battery, I get a pretty responsive experience when using the Rendered preview.
as a student, a laptop is a must plus i dont have the space for a tower pc nore the time or the knowledge to maintin it well so a laptop is just way better in my situation
For me it’s the difference between needing to buy a keyboard and monitor and not.
Oh fr tbh. Gaming laptops are a fantastic entry point if you have absolutely nothing. While you have one, you can slowly build up your peripherals over time so that it's not a huge upfront cost if you switch to a desktop.
If I had to buy literally every peripheral when I switched to desktop, it would've doubled the price. Thankfully I already had an ex-second monitor to use, and that was able to tide me over a few months until I got a new monitor.
asus rog strix 17 7945hx3d rtx 4080 laptop here. Definitely good enough for my gaming needs... and i can move quickly.
Otherwise i would have gone with a desktop build, cheaper and/or more powerful.
For the accuracy of the test it was necessary to add the cost of cheap acoustics, an uninterruptible power supply and a monitor for PC =)
The problem is, for the price of a good gaming laptop, you can buy a desktop pc and a bad laptop for office tasks… I am considering a gaming laptop too but its just too expensive.. and the “240hertz” screen makes no sense cause there is no game that will get 240fps
Modern gaming laptop mostly cabable of throttling at 100 degrees:)) i have 3(Zephyrus g14, ROG STRIX G16 4080, Alienware m15 3070) of them, and all 3 of them constantly throttle and overheat, rebooting by itself occasionally, especially the Zephyrus. Go for desktop if not absolutely critical to have laptop.
Well of course if laptops didn’t have limitations I don’t think anyone would choose desktop mainly for the take it anywhere you want purpose 😅
Hi Jarrod,
I am a big fan of your work.
Recently I discovered the Cybernetics website the have a tier list for PSU and was amazed by their Noise Rating ranking.
My next Desktop will surely have a A++ Noiose Rating PSU. What if you also start building a tier list like that for Laptops.
For example Noise Levels ratings while playing Cyberpunk/Warzone at locked 60FPS on Medium settings?
Currently I have a Lenovo Legion 14 Oled with RTX 4060. And I can play on it on Quiet mode. And for now on I will only buy gaming laptops that can game quietly. I cannot go back from here :)
#6 If you live in Germany, Italy, France or the UK the saved electricity using a laptop can be substantial with around 0,35$ per kWh 😁
Or you just undervolt or underclock to greatly reduce power draw...
@@niebuhr6197 I actually do that ony desktop ;) 65W-88W for my R7 7700x and around 120W for my 4070 💪
To sum it up, in my opinion...
*GAMING LAPTOPS CANNOT HANDLE HEAT LIKE PCs AND THE "MOBILE" VERSIONS OF THE GRAPHIC CARDS ARE WEAKER AND ACT LIKE THE CARD CAME BEFORE THEM*
For example, my 3060 Mobile acts like 3050. End of story. 🙂
EDIT: Of course, i prefer laptop for portability but i also want to get into the PC version of the story with a *R7 7800X3D and RX 7900 GRE/7900 XTX* wish me luck! ❤
Mobile 3060 is like 90-95% of a desktop disregarding vram, you pulled that Stat out of your ass
@@waferbarr I am sorry, are the one who have a freaking HP Victus with a useless 3060 Mobile graphics card? Are you the one who having heat and performance issues with the laptop? I must be mistaken. 😒🖕
My 2060 laptop works like a charm for the past 4 years. Never had overheating, GPU always settled at 66 and CPU never exceed 80c.
3060 and 3070 laptops is like 8% difference from their desktop counterparts. The gap gets more narrow when it comes to 4060 since they are both power efficient.
The new CPU in laptops which are HX series they are literally same as desktops expect they are a little bit Power efficient, even tho that i7 13700hx can reach 100w is insane.
My 3060 mobile performs better than my rx6600 desktop GPU. No way a desktop 3050 is beating that. Unless your said 3060 mobile is power-limited by HP.
Pascal (GTX 10 series) was very close between desktop and laptop GPUs. Now that's not the case as of RTX 30 series.
As someone who has and loves his laptop, in most cases you only need a desktop in most cases, and in my country desktops are often cheaper than the laptops.
my laptop I like tho
Hi there can you please suggest me some good cooling pads for my Acer predator helios neo 16 2023 model
Also can you please suggest both budget and expensive ones
Do you think it is necessary for the laptop?
anything suit your usages, but indeed laptop can be desktop and desktop cant
one suggestion, watch videos and pics potrait in potrait mode, its whole different looking, really like different, trust me bro
Got a monster desktop and a laptop that's equivalent (technically faster) myself. I dislike compromise now that I have the ability to _do something_ about it.
Price isn't as big of a problem at the higher-end as it used to be. My laptop w/ 13900HX and a 4080 went for around $1800 barebones, and with deal-hunting I got a 48GB kit of memory, a 1TB NVMe and a 4TB NVMe without much of a problem, totaled out at around $2200. Not too far off from what a comparable desktop would net you at the same price.
As someone who has gamed on desktops since early 2000s, i am seriously looking into a gaming laptop now. I travel for work 13-15 weeks each year, and my desktop has been crashing the last few days due to hardware going out. Does anyone have a suggestion on a reputable laptop brand, and is it possible to obtain performance levels similar or better than a 3080ti with a Ryzen 7 5800 and 32gb ram? I built my current PC back in mid-late 2021, so I'm hoping I can find a laptop that can outperform that, if possible, with a budget of $2500.
I have a laptop to save energy. Thos GPUs in desktops draw too much power. It's crazy!
Great video, Jarrod, thank you!
Here's a question, which is better for both productivity as well as entertainment, a phone or a tablet?
Hey Jarrod great video I'm in a predicament I just received a brand new hp Invictus rtx 4050 laptop 75 watt after watching one of your videos I decided to buy one. When first starting the laptop I accidentally played on a un even surface for 5 mins and the laptop overheated and turned off by it self must of blocked the air flow or something. Now when I play games like Cyberpunk I only get 50 to 60 fps on medium settings and dlss aint working properly but frame gen is, and I'm getting no reading of gpu power and temperature in GeForce experience application I've updated all latest drivers I'm at my wits end thanks dude
Bought a gaming laptop for late night gaming in the living room while everyone sleeps.
Are the Gaming Laptops containing intel 13th and 14th Gen CPU's haveing crashing issues etc... like the desktop ones ?
no, at least intel have said that the problem is for high wattage cpu which laptop cpu are not
I bought a small desktop box and carry it around to class in a rolling suitcase. No biggie.