DarkHorse Podcast with Geert Vanden Bossche & Bret Weinstein
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- Geert Vanden Bossche is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology, Geert has worked in industry in the construction of vaccines, and in the non profit sector working to bring immunity to larger numbers of people.
Find Geert on his website: www.geertvandenbossche.org/
Find Geert on Twitter: @GVDBossche
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Theme Music: Thank you to Martin Molin of Wintergatan for providing us the rights to use their excellent music.
Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome
01:28 Basic argument around vaccines
03:57 Trade-off of vaccines
06:16 How adaptive immunity works
16:28 COVID immunity
18:42 How mRNA vaccines work
21:11 Innate immunity
25:30 Geert's argument
39:30 War analogy
47:33 Comparison with 1918 pandemic
56:44 Immune escape
59:41 Natural antibodies
01:03:47 Dose dependent COVID
01:06:40 Herd immunity is innate immunity
01:09:46 Arms race
01:11:12 Is Geert crazy?
01:12:01 What can we do next? What should our vaccination strategy be?
01:23:35 The next COVID vaccine with Natural Killer (NK) cells
01:26:32 Triple drug cocktails against HIV metaphor
01:32:32 Auto-immunity and leukemia
01:34:15 Fundamental things we don't understand about COVID
01:36:02 Censorship of Geert. Censorship of vaccine expert on social media
01:40:22 Asymptomatic infection
01:46:41 End - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Dr. Geert is one of the only Belgian doctors who dares to speak out the truth. We are proud of you 👍
What do you mean "Belgian" ??
In the world would be way closer to reality !
The Netherlands is proud too! We need people like Geert to speak up against this madness.
@@MrRickkramer Well, unfortunately the only one. All the rest are a bunch of sheeple.
Be proud of your nation.
You guys have more human rights and freedom of speech.
@@rikjanssens8971 yes well, for now maybe. The way things are going I feel like we’re all being set up for a NWO system and the EU is a big part of that puzzle. Resist and make sure you are armed and ready to defend yourself. If people would just wake up we could all just say no and get on with life but the media has a grip on people’s minds. Makes me sick....
@@kennethalbert4653 a person from Belgium 🇧🇪 is referred to as a Belgian. Like a person from Spain being called a Spaniard. It’s just a root word with a different addition when the context changes.
any time somebody tells me that i can't sue them especially for something medical like this means they r not going to take responsibility for my health. that's enough for me.
It also means that the people pushing the vax on you have MORE faith in the product than even the manufacturers do. It’s so much bs
Exactly, if they're not going to take "full" responsibility for injecting my body with this vaccine.. Uhm substance, then I will take full responsibility by NOT allowing my body to be injected with something that isn't 100% backed.
ronald begon REGON
Please advise the Irish Government
Please tell the governments to wake up
"Trust the science" they said. How come Scientists come forward and then get dismissed and ridiculed?
Science is in the pocket of the government and the government is in the pocket of big pharma
@@billbiller3745 You need to look at big tech . Many are tied in on this. Gene editing health care. etc
sadly, science means "a theory is accepted as fact, until proven wrong."
@@kysa3535 Well have you seen how many practicing doctors came forward WITH SUPPORTING DATA about the effectiveness of Hydroxychloroquine in combination with other drugs and were ridiculed? It appears to me that sadly science is no longer about facts rather about who controls the megaphone!
What "they" (Gov/Media) really mean is trust our hand picked version of science..anyone with an opposing scientific view is labeled a conspiracy theorist
The world owes Dr. Bossche an apology! He was right all along!! And Brett! You are both heroes. Grateful for you!
Hi there, where is the evidence that he was right? Thank you :)
The fact that cases hospitalizations and deaths are up 10 fold post vaccine rollout compared to this time last year when 0% were vaccinated. And the fact that there is a direct correlation between the most vaccinated countries and the greatest increase in Covid numbers across the Northern Hemisphere. And the fact that Israel is the most vaccinated major country in the world, with even 25% of the country having received a third booster and they currently have the most daily cases per capita. Pretty compelling evidence to say the least.
@@alandockrill4924 but isn’t that because of the high transmissibility of the delta variant? Which has been in circulation before the vaccines were rolled out? I still think he might be right but if herd immunity is the goal won’t we still achieve it because everyone in the world will be exposed to the virus sooner or later?
@herb
@@herb2037Dr. Bossche has its TH-cam channel. It is there where he laid his position out on matters re immunity & jab vis a vis CV19.
This is undoubtedly one of the most balanced, serious and important discussions available to the lay person at the moment. So watch it before it gets taken down by the thought police.
I had the same thought. Easy enough to record it and store locally.
Facebook blocked me from posting the video so I’m worried YT will be taking it down soon. Already told a handful of people to watch it asap
@@amicuscure8s Can you download it?
Luckily the podcast audio is available on platforms other than YT.
Surprised it’s even still up? 🙏
As a medical student, I am so grateful for Dr. Weinsteins ability and willingness to have technical, nuanced conversations about these types of topics. Not only is "corporate media" biased, they are also boring and predictable. Thank you for continuing to provide us with stimulating content!
@Mybiz I don't know what you were reacting to (it's been deleted), but... No
I understand your point, but... No. Take away pain (symptom silencing) to stop stress and the body can focus. Set a bone fracture, take out a bullet or remove a tumor (surgery), mastectomy instead of chemo or death. A placebo (because we stop our own healing) and lets not forget the band aid
Our bodies, like people, sometimes need a little push.
Just a push to get going in order to get over the hill
"the body needs its conditions changed to create a healing landscape"
Don't underestimate the human body, but don't rely on happy on thoughts
Edit
If you're young, a kiss from mom
I forgot that one
@@fonzdevries4575 Please, study more. The things this man claims are unproven or untrue or both.
@@markjordens you're talking to me but are you talking about me, mark hanzen, mybiz or jr joe (whos comment has been deleted)?
@@markjordens I'm not a doctor nor will I ever become one, but what did I say that's not true?
Oversimplified "yes", but from placebo or a kiss from mom to major surgery it's all true
Good to hear that there are medical students getting this info! Thanks for commenting
I am in the UK. Sadly, my 16 year old daughter told me all her friends are double vaccinated. My daughter is not vaccinated and finds it very difficult to talk to them about it.
Their teachers say to them 'get vaccinated'.
The pressure is horrible
People forget that normal medicines are not lucrative anymore(very difficult industry), but, vaccines are very lucrative. Pushing vaccines is big business. Plus, they can't get in trouble for making bad vaccines, because JFK Jr made a separate bogus vaccine court.
Remind your daughter that prior to covid-19, nobody was rude enough to make your healthcare their business. You have raised a strong woman. Bravo
Nazists everywere nowerdays!
This man is a legend for what he did, thanks to him people had the information they needed and could make their own choices.
Bret is having some of the most important, thoughtful conversations in media today. We are so blessed to have him.
And yet I‘m getting called a moron for even recommending listening to this :(
@@andrewgroleau5805 What I want to hear? I don't get your point. Is there anything specific you are eluding to?
@@Mrs_Puffington you got me. It is thought provoking and entertaining for me. But I see many taking it as proof of their bias against this vaccine which I believe will be their foundation for all vaccines from this point on. This is just a discussion and shouldn't be used as a tool for confirmation bias. Which is what I see from most of the people who listen to Brett and Heather
@@andrewgroleau5805 Now you point at the real problem. I just don't believe that because there is a chance someone might get it wrong you shouldn't say it in the first place, which is exactly the thing Bret and Heather call out so many times in the current news media. If the problem are idiots, we should start talking about the educational system and not how we can limit the range of discussion so no one's at risk of thinking the "wrong" thing.
@@andrewgroleau5805 reading through the comments on this thread, where do you see confirmation bias? Mostly what I see is people who are simply happy to hear the discussion. To hear people asking questions and not buying the mass media and big Pharma story wholesale. People who are sick of scientific censorship. If you want to see confirmation bias scroll through the comments on any MSNBC video. That is a real echo chamber. This doesn't even hold a candle. It seems like you're the one who is seeing what you want to see.
The issues raised are real and I take my hat off to Brett for courageously giving Geert a platform to discuss and educate us
We need to see Geert, Perri Kory, and Mike Yeadon on with Bret.
Intellectual courage & honesty is why I follow Brett (and his wife Heather).
I wonder at what age the innate immune response is sheit enough that the antigen response is the best way to go. I'm going to say around 35 since I just got the vaccine the other day. :) To me the travel pressures are just not worth resisting the vaccine. At some point one must recognize the world in which they live and conform accordingly.
@@threeofeight197 your view is frightening.
@@threeofeight197 travel is the big stick for many of us but it’s unlikely to restart from Australia any time soon
Dr Geert CARES ABOUT HUMANITY. What a wonderful Genuine caring responsible Dr who is not thinking about the money . God keep you safe Dr Geert 🙏
I Heard That Geert & Brett Are Crazy Conspiracy goofs Spreading false Conspiracies
@@sheilaagwa9055 You heard right.
AMEN
Unfortunately this has aged very well, yet the train is still speeding full steam towards hell.
It takes guts and bravery to even have this discussion nowadays. Both are extremely courageous men
It takes enormous courage to have a discussion this dumb, yes.
Not taking the expiremental shot no! No reason to do it.
And by "courageous" you mean "delusional" or "gullible", of course.
@@TheBIOSStar go take your booster jabs then you labrat
It doesn't take guts at all, because its the only way Bossche is likely to become famous. You only have to consider his non-existent vaccine publications to realise that.
Brett's literally more valuable than entire media conglomerates
That's not saying much. The MSM is completely corrupt and useless.
PSA: Only 1 T in Bret's name. Thank you.
YES, He is. He is great. But in fact even a neutral is preferable to the Negative narratives spread by the LIE stream media
More than the whole lot of them put together
I’m an independent fact checker and thru my extensive research I’ve concluded that this statement is in fact true.
“Top experts can not speak up because …..”. We are doomed because our “top experts” do not want to risk their power and privilege for the common good, or for those they consider not worthy.
This was very interesting when it aired four months ago. Now in Sept, with the delta variant raging, it is remarkably prophetic. How tragic that a global pandemic is being "handled" by blithering individuals who seem oblivious to science and actual welfare and health of people. Thanks Brett and Geert!
Yup...hes been telling this a very long time before this video too
See his own channel too
Given the enormous revenue from vaccine sales it seems this can create a dangerous golden calf. Can there emerge a restraint and balance between business and core health issues ?
Big pharma has a lot more money than gov-funded science projects.
And now the new strain out of SA...
How about now in January 2022? Australia with 90% of its population vaccinated has had a 78% increase of confirmed cases since last week.. That is proof vaccinated people are spreading it around. LMAO He was right!
The fact checkers are already posting labels on FB for this claiming it's misleading. We need to find and prosecute these fact-checkers and the people paying them.
Got a few spare 100 million to fund a global PR campaign like Medical Cartel / Big Pharma does?
oh the irony of them saying it's "missing context"... oh you mean like basically all journalism is...
Call it what ever you want, it’s evil and by design.
Yes, I shared this on Facebook within two mins these so-called independent fact-checkers blocked it!!!
The factcheckers.org are subsidized by vaccine companies. If I' m not mitaken it's johnson and johnson.
Everyone back this up ASAP . One of the most important conversations in our modern time.
There are much better interviews with Geert Vanden Bossche but I'm glad they ventured to have this discussion.
YES
@@ellenparadowski5582 can you link Some of them
I would love to know more
@@WouterBeets here are some links to more information th-cam.com/video/2BKnAhentak/w-d-xo.html
Most important conversation about what’s happening is Dr Mike Yeadon on James Delingpole Podcast. It’s on Spotify, podbean, iTunes not on TH-cam.
As a non expert, I appreciate experts who can explain how something works without being condescending. People who say “trust the science” without explaining the science have something to hide
I agree wholeheartedly!
Yes. This. All of it.
These conversations are the most important conversations being had on this earth right now. You guys are a source of knowledge and understanding that so many people are badly in need of right now.
Leslie Lawrenson was a vocal anti-vaccine person on Facebook in the UK. He cited Bret's podcast as one of the main reasons he believed the COVID vaccine was more dangerous than getting the disease itself. Leslie died of COVID last week: www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-dorset-58080116
@@HolyCanoley Dude should not have down played his symptoms, and ask his doctor for treatments like Monoclonal Antibodies and Colchicine.
@@antares5561 Monoclonal Antobied are what the Vaccines give you lmaoooo, you realize that right?
My reply comment keeps getting deleted...what kind of censorship is this?
I will try again...
Monoclonal Antibodies is not mRNA gene for the spike protein, it is a clone of the unique white blood cells, which fight for the immune system. This is very different from the vaccine, and has shown great success when targeted for cancer cells. Scientists have even created a targeted antibody for the spike protein! Now that is science I can stand behind!
@@antares5561 So none of the "great successes" noted about the mRNA vaccine through numerous rigorous studies and clinical trials conducted all over the world....apparently that science you cannot stand behind?
"One thing you learn in the first year of specialization is that you never vaccinate during an epidemic because the virus will react by mutating" ---Dr. Pietro Luigi Garavelli
Ok.fine.1918 anyone? Suppose it is 1918 and vaccines have been developed and dr Garavelli has his way using his golden rule.
Infections go up and he still says 'never vaccinate during a pandemic'. 60 million casualties later we get back to mr Garavelli. His answer might be:" but with the mutations it wouldve been so much worse!".
I feel that people making this argument are likely not in a place of responsibility. It's speculation from a safe distance not having to make real time choices.
That is my overall problem w some of the standpoints taken in this video. Some intellectuals are very good in views from the side line, forgetting the uncertainties when the pandemic played out.
Some body at some point has to make a decision, usually with some form of agreement on what seems the most sensible.
Given the magnitude of the Covid19 pandemic i think the vaccine approach was the best option.
Remember, we all thought this thing was done and dusted in the summertime and a lot people, uncluding me were surprised at the 2nd lockdown, with good arguments against it.
Before anyone got vaccinated the variants created havoc.
That seriously closes most alternative roads out of the pandemic.
Now it seems that vaccination is the only way out, unless you want to lock up everyone over 50 and chronically ill patients.
So, the alternative is a police state.
Is that what you want?
This quote is definitely not a thing lmfao
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@@MrBallynally2 You are misinformed as to what caused the 1918 situation. Namely like the previous horror of fake alarmist claims on a NJ MILITARY BASE... 1918 was discovered after multiple jabs of various crap were used on MILITARY MEN IN THE USA.
@@Hands2HealNow wow, they never mentioned the 1918 pandemic was possible caused by a leak from a lab
Open dialog has been effectively killed. Hats off for these who still have strength to even try, with their own faces and names.
@@c3bhm the doctrine of #freespeech is thankfully self exterminating and countries that cleave to it will all be gone soon
@@c3bhm
Can you say free speech and boycott in the same sentence and not see the irony?
Basically you want your will and silence those who disagree. Hope that makes my point.
@@justanothernick3984 Yea, it was hilarious to see all the 'boycott' screaming from the Right after years of them complaining about Cancel culture. Hypocrisy much?!?
The LEFT deserves to be fully exposed... for all its evil doings
@@c3bhm well said!
He’s been telling the truth the whole time.
This is by far the most rational and informed discussion on the crisis I’ve heard. Thank you
Can you also do an interview with Dr Mike Yeadon, formerly a Vice President and Chief Science Officer at Pfizer.
It's fuckin debilitating to find information like this conversation here. The amount of scientific censorship with regards to the current vaccine regiment is startling. Thank you DarkHorse for being an island of reason in a sea of madness
You can go to telegram and find uncensored information there
A College Biochem or Physiology text book is not beyond the understanding of the lay person. There should be copies from the 1990's onwards in Book stores - I say 1990's because that is when PCR emerged in the molecular toolkit.
Yes it's real science and thry smash it cuz they want the ppl to be depopped...aka vaxxed
It's almost like the entire Pandemic isn't about helping the public but getting the plebs to submit to giving up their Constitutional rights.
@@user-eg2jr8dt1j 100%! Did you have a chance to watch his follow-up video on this yet? How FB “ fact-checkers” called this discussion a hoax 🙄
Thank you so much! I just watched this video! It’s amazing! I am an 83 yrs. old woman, have not been vaccinated and am trying to learn as much as my small little mind allows me to understand!
God bless you, your wife and Dr. Bernstein 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is ageing very very well
I consume a lot of information about Covid. This discussion is the most important element of the crisis that I have watched. These two men, are incredibly brave, and honorable, and show a love of humankind. What was discussed is terrifying and worthy of further debate. Thank you
You would think that such debate would be taken more seriosly not cenzored and rediculed..
@@damianpos8832 Doesn't surprise me in this age of rampant societal and intellectual degradation, with the media a huge catalyst for that
Was just thinking the same thing. why is it so controversial to have a discussion about this?? the politicisation of the topic at hand has blinkered the public perception, much like the vaccine...Brett and his guests never seem to have any hidden agenda, they simply try to unravel complicated subjects and develop further understanding. Humanity stands a chance with these conversations.
We have to face up to the fact that this could have been done deliberately. Nobody wants to even consider this.
@@unixsystems I wouldn’t so much agree with deliberate, but profit driven by Pharma and the travel industry that both put pressure on politicians and scientists - YES.
Thank you Bret for having Geert as your guest. As someone with an autoimmune condition and prone to blood clots, I have concerns.
This was in April and we now in late July have a Delta variant rampaging through the population including the younger cohort. I think Dr Gert has been totally vindicated.
Yep, scarily prescient!
where does this leave the non vaccinated any hope for us
Seems a fair observation but I'd anticipate some arguments along the lines, "with very low vaccination rates in India, why would immune/selection pressure occur there, where delta strain appears to have originated?"
Or did it originate elsewhere and simply find fertile conditions there to proliferate?
Nonsense, lol. Your confirmation bias is pathetic and dishonest. Even a dumb squirrel gets a nut now and then. Geert is still a complete nut and debunked conspiracy theorist. Grow a brain.
Delta may has well have been dropped on India by the CCP - it acts very differently to the original covid19 - perhaps this is what they had called "covid 21" which was planned already? More to come!
I was just told about this doctor. So glad to finally hear someone confirming and explaining what I felt in my gut all along. The gentleman interviewing him does such a great job as well.
@@manfjsjjskdjhtjaozjdnn3947 If you are biased towards an idea and someone confirms it does that always invalidate the idea due to confirmation bias?
@@manfjsjjskdjhtjaozjdnn3947 happy to see a sane person here. You beat me to it!! This is so scary and sad.
@@manfjsjjskdjhtjaozjdnn3947 is the something in the video you disagree with? I'm asking so that I can be exposed to anything that may present a different argument.
@@matboi5746 is the something in the video you disagree with? I'm asking so that I can be exposed to anything that may present a different argument.
@@vdudya if you need me to get to information that is easily found with a 5 minute research, i really doubt that information will be of any use to you. But if your inquiry is genuine the best article is edward nirenberg's.
The fact that this conversation is not happening on every level but here is disturbing and speaks to the current situation divided as we are. Thank you both for doing this!
vaxxter.com/new-study-confirms-the-covid-shot-spike-protein-is-dangerous/
Read the utter stupidity of some of the comments and you'd understand why these conversations are not happening at the mass level. If a scientist with 10 years of experience says we need to 'recheck some data', half the country reads it as 'Bill Gates is trying to kill us'...
@Lori Massacci Thank you for proving my point... 🤦🏽♂️
@@hashtone Gates did so before in India and Africa, so please be more open minded
@@hashtone these statements are not diametrically opposite. One statement doesn't disprove the other. In fact, it may lead to evidence for it! Be it as it may, I am still troubled by the research to Gain of Function and who funded it and what the purpose was with this flagrant breach of Bioethics? And what was the arcane evolution of this Super virus? Thanks for relating!
After first hearing of Geert Vanden Bossche's work, I thought it would be a natural for him to appear on this show. I even contacted both and suggested they get together. So glad this happened.
I watched a clip yesterday and thought that Brett was paraphrasing Geert's theory. It was pretty surprising.
Thank you for doing that. I truly believe (hope) that this interview will be the catalyst. I had never come across Bret before which says we all know someone who we think is the right person to make aware and we should contact them immediately. Then they cannot say they didn’t know. My suggestion as I have written in other replies is to ask them to watch from timeline 1:36 onwards (a minute of time) and it should capture their attention and awaken further curiosity.
Can anyone clarify whether this conversation is applying mostly to the Moderna and Pfizer mRNA vaccines? Is it the very same issue or closely related for the J&J and AstroZeneca vaccines? Edit: they all target the spike protein, so yes.
The thing we're trying to figure out is whether new vaccines of this type could target the variants until they come up with another type of vaccine that doesn't have this narrow focus. I am recalling in their conversation them discussing the shutting down of innate immunity and that new vaccines will recall the old "memory" for antibodies that have already been figured out by evolved COVID even as you try to train the immune system to produce new antibodies it still creates the obsolete first vaccine antibodies (or T-cell helpers or whatever)
Well I've got a better theory than all of them, because I can tell the truth without the fear of losing my channel that doesn't exist. Covid19 is a gain of function lab virus that was intentionally leaked into the populous by the Chinese government as a response to the economic policies of the Trump administration. Lets not forget that this pandemic started only a few months after a trade deal was struck with China that would weaken their economy over the next 10 years. China claimed it wasn't transmissible from human to human. China hid information about this virus for months. They imprisoned and vanished whistle blowers. After it became clear the virus was in fact transmissible, the Chinese government began uploading videos, of what appeared to look like the apocalypse, with people dying in the streets (bet you all forgot about those). That was followed with a social media campaign from China using millions of bots (that were eventually banned) that were promoting lock-downs, and talking about how well lockdowns work. This entire pandemic was systematically structured to destroy western economies. The Chinese government even began accusing a new country every month of originating the virus. They blamed the US, Australia, and a few other countries. The reason propagandists do this, is so that when somebody accuses them of wrongdoing, the waters are too muddy. There's so many accusations floating around that nobody knows what to believe, and they just give up. Lets not forget, China is still the only country to have people "dropping dead" in the streets. Those videos were by design meant to spook western governments into lock downs. Twitter and Facebook banned over 2 million bot accounts that were promoting lockdowns early on. Sorry, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but this is just obvious. Russia and China have also spent the last 20 years indoctrinating western youth via the internet. If a western government were to discover that China intentionally leaked a virus, there are no western governments that would be able to find support for a war effort, or a response. Nobody will believe them. Nobody trusts their own government anymore.
Recently Geert was begging parents to not give this shot to their kids.
One of the best videos about the subject I have ever watched. The explanations are extremely clear, so you can get a pretty good idea of what is going on. Four months after the video was made, what is being said is still remarkably relevant. Thank you.
That’s why holistic prophylactic measures like exercise, diet, vitamin D, Zinc, etc are so important to give your immune system a chance to defend the body against this virus and it’s variants!
And they’re trying to eradicate people who choose this method
@@11nica5 Or as Chris Rock said....Ain't no money in Da Cure!
I’m wondering if HCQ was banned from the off label use as an antiviral not only because it’s a zinc ionophore and blocks viral mRNA from transcription, but it might also block the mRNA in the vaccines !
They nuked my heretic comment....dang.
@@mikejohnson9118 face crack keeps removing my posts on medical ethics and medical studies... and my fav... Edward Bernays quotes on propaganda. Ethics is now officially 'spam' on social media.
If this scenario is even just partially correct we are screwed. You men are heros!
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Yep!
Please consider watching. HEALTH IMPACT NEWS. Also. ROBERT KENNEDY Jr. “ Children’s Health Defense “. Best to all TRUTHSEEKERS.
There is no partially correct is his scenario. It works that way. Period. It is established science, he says so in the podcast if you were listening.
The question is to what extent are the consequences going to be manifesting.
@@sirmoke9646 by partially correct I guess I meant to what extent..... but yeah it’s not good.
These are the conversations we need to be having.
Absolutely fascinating and yet terrifying discussion.
Terrifying, right, when you realize what it means.
If your taking about the comment section i agree. As for these claims they are not controversial they are absolutely absurd and in contradiction with pretty basic immunological science.
@@matboi5746 What do you think he is off on?
@@matboi5746 do you think it's an honest mistake because to be fair to the guy he does seem pretty genuine. Who debunked him?
@UCk-WENMTvSSkNg77m3Vxw6w do you have any sources of who debunked him? I'd be interested in checking them out.
I stayed up very late to watch this because I’m afraid it might not be here later and it was more than worth it. Thank you so much for your work and bravery.
Isn’t it a shame that we live in the age when we have to be concerned that those promoting everything might delete additional understanding. We can’t have an honest society if this way continues
@@scienceisall2632 what's worse is you have people who openly advocate the removal and censorship of anyone who shares a differing opinion. And this applies to more than just covid, it can range from climate, to race, to science, money the list goes on and on.
We are truly doomed as a species if people cannot have civilized discussion with people with whom they disagree with
Absolutely - the "experts" at Google / TH-cam might decide it can't be true because it disagrees with Biden.
@@auburnandgrey4457 YT premium downloads disappear if the video is taken down.
@@c3bhm 100% agree with you there
We who have listened need to contact our government and public health authority, demand that there be an open debate in this! No one is sitting with the result yet, scary how everything is rushed forward in panic.
Thank you Geert for sharing your knowledge and Thank you Brett for a very important interview!
Yes. Fauci and the government put fear in people via the media, all in a rush, so that getting vaccinated would become standard and eventually mandated.
@@janetclark5668 The same in Sweden...
@@cia7309 I though Sweden government would be different because I believed Sweden government is one of transparent and honest government in the world. Maybe I am wrong?
@@user-ob9rt4th5w Unfortunately, it is only vaccine propaganda we are being fed with now from our media and authorities. No debate that can make people think otherwise is shown in "regular" news. Brainwashing of the population can be said.
Do not really recognize me in my country anymore ...
@@cia7309 I feel the exact same here in South Korea:(
Fascinating…..It’s happening now.
The way Bret conducts himself and steers conversations to make them digestible to his audience is just great.
Steers them to debunked B.S. and he's a fraud. A thoroughly lambasted fraud by many much smarter than him. He has NO evidence for his B.S. claims.
@@MrBilld75 Always eager to learn and change my mind. Can you give some citations to the debunked BS, I would like to check it out.
@@badgebadge8946 he can’t and won’t do it. He’s like the leftist. No facts just shout louder. Just like how Dr. fauci lied in front of congress but people believed his ass.
hes amazing
@@badgebadge8946 It's not hard, lol. Literally google their names with the word debunked after it, Bret has been dragged on his B.S. plenty. With Geert you hardly even have to use the word debunked, lol. Just googling his name shows the B.S. he's been spewing and how widely he's been lambasted and debunked. Bret only has quacks on there like himself, he's a far right nut.
Man, do I wish I’d had a teacher like Bret... regardless of subject! I learned more biology in the first 15 min of the video than I managed to learn during my years in school.....!
Evergreen lost a wonderful professor. I LOVE his podcast, my favorite. Heather is a joy as well.
maybe you did drugs & alcohol in school(time)
He IS REALLY GOOD!
Thank you SO much for this interview....I have been following Geert’s argument but you have really helped me understand it more clearly. I look forward to you and Heather discussing it further. His hypothesis must be taken seriously and not shut down by those who have a political agenda!
So i hope they address if it could it be a correct hypothesis, that the half measures the world took in 2020 encouraged extra contagious variants? @47:35 How during the 1918 pandemic no measures were taken and humans even helped the virus spread during the first world war, yet no proof that extra infectious variants occurred??? If even sort of true, that's a huge WOW. The ppl calling for herd immunity (the original old definition) to deal with it...not lockdowns, back in March 2020 .....were right?
I always thought were were training/rewarding it to learn new tricks.
I think a true lockdown, might have worked in the beginning, we never did that. Here we are.
@@moonbear894 and now, due to the political diarrhea spewed by our so-called leaders, even if that is indisputably true, it will never be acknowledged, and no corrections will be made.
The boot camp analogy is perfect.
@@moonbear894 Are you serious???? It was the second year that was most devastating. Many places shut down by the way-two cities barricaded themselves and mask mandates were a part of the discussion.
I must say, when this conversation took place in real time, a few months ago, it had to have been the best conversation, the most intellectually stimulating, the most intelligent, the most educating, the most intelligent discussion, the most relevant, in the world that day, and maybe since, thanks bret and geert
I’m here because “ get it because its the right thing to do “ wasn’t good enough for me
Same here, it’s the right thing to do if you’re big Pharma, making a fortune, from our misfortune.
''get it to get your freedoms back'' was for me enough to be worried.
@@hankstorm3135 did you ever have the freedom they glamorized?
Im here because you either respect my decision or you can go to hell
@ BRET WEINSTEIN: Please organize a dialogue between Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi en dr. Geert Vanden Bossche. Both have excellent academic backgrounds and are severely concerned about mass vaccination. Please give them a platform to share their ideas. Thank you for your work.
Sounds like a great idea
Yes! And add Dr Mike Yeadon to the conversation.
I Would watch that
Add Dr. Byram Bridle too
I'll second that!
I pray for the protection and blessing of these two brave men, who at potential great consequence to themselves are speaking out.
I pray he's wrong.
Thanks Brett for translating the medical lingo easy to understand metaphors! 👍
I have been following Geert for some time and have to say that Bret really brought out the best in Geert and also made it very easy to understand, even for somebody like myself, who doesn’t have a medical background but can add things up. I loved the military metaphors and would like to add one of my own: the vaccine is not a medicine but a preemptive measure. So for me being from Sweden, our navy is our vaccine. But if the enemy is already within our borders, the navy can’t get the job done.
Brilliant analogy!
Wow I can't believe this is still up on youtube! Good work!
The conversation is way over their simple heads!
I am also surprised, since they cancelled the vídeo with Luc Montagnier….
it will be in time,,there are so many,, maybe they are short staffed for now lol!!!
Yeah youre right, his claims are so absurd and in contradiction of some pretty basic immunological science it should probably be deleted by YT.
@@matboi5746 You’re the arbiter of that? How do your qualifications match up to these two? You sound like a troll, the inevitable one that turns up with ad hominem attacks every time someone questions the propaganda.
I love the way Brett "translates." It is a gift.
Indeed , it is a gift to be able to take the esoterica of science
and to be able to explain it in terms which are comprehensible to most people .
@@miles6593 Yes!
@@miles6593 Yes. And to not wear the blinders so many of them wear. So scared to question the status quo because it might hurt their precious, fragile careers.
@@Matt-ir1ky :
Bret possesses the same communication skills as Professor David Suzuki , a geneticist from Canada ,
when it comes to explaining complex scientific news to the lay person . Both scientists are biologists
and environmentalists except that Suzuki has been professing a little longer than Bret .
To respond directly to your statement , Matt , ... the status quo would always remain the orthodoxy
if no one were allowed to question or challenge it ; so , thank God for dissident intellectuals like
Bret Weinstein , Eric Weinstein , Chris Hedges , Noam Chomsky , Charles Darwin , etc.
Peace and good health to you ... Miles from Canada .
@@miles6593 I would not include Brett in there, seeing as he's a debunked quack and a lying failure on Biology, lol.
As a Belgian myself THIS podcast is a dream!
Been following Bret a long time when he came on Rogan.
Geert Dank U voor de waarheid. Keep it up makker!
More people need to listen to this
In any other situation this should be a normal guy doing the work that he devoted his life to. This insane world he is an absolute hero. Love you both.
I just passed this video on to many friends and hope at least one of them actually watches this. My family will not get injected as well as a few friends and those of us not falling in line are facing daily judgement and questioning. Thank you for this brilliant discussion.
Trust me you are not the only one. Do not cave in. It's your body.
Tell them you doctor does not advise the shot, it is against your religious beliefs. Then tell them to stop asking you if you have done the shot.
I’m pretty sure I am allergic to all experimental gene therapies and vaccines
I'm sooo tired of being judged and bullied into getting vaccinated.
@@MyCynner so am I.
I think I have innate immunity. My husband had the virus last year. He had a fever over a weekend and cleared it and was fine. I never caught it. I was around my brother-in-law and sister-in-law when they had it and didn’t catch it. My neighbors also. Plus I am an ICU nurse and I’ve been exposed multiple times. I’m still negative for antibodies and I’ve not been sick this entire time.
I do not routinely take medications. Only supplements and non processed diet. I wish there was a way to prove that I do not need the vaccine. As for now I can only hope for an exemption.
My husband btw still has antibodies 15 months after having the virus.
Why is TH-cam still showing me the Wikipedia thingy about the jab?
Are they the Ministry Of Truth?
If I could give this interview 10 thumbs up, I would! Thank you Geert and Bret!
Geert is the first Belgian guest on the podcast. Historic moment for my country XD
Historisch voor het hele Nederlandse taalgebied!
@@GQ2593 You can both be proud. I don't know why he says mRNAs would be good if we were not in the middle of a Pandemic. This Netflix stuff is an Operating System made to transform women and men into virus producers. Recycling bodies into sick people. We might get encephalopathy as well ie coma and death. In case the overreaction of silly strong antibodies contained in the blood does not kill the host.
Antibodies in the blood for a virus which was enhanced to circulate in the air. And will land in the lungs if it does.
It makes no sense.
Belgium really scraping the barrel when it comes to historical moments.
and the only BELGIAN with some brains left, apparently, I mean, with a voice to the public and CREDIBILITY
@Debra Charles I’m not pro this “vaccine” but I don’t understand how that would be my point either way.
This is exactly what some French doctors have warned against.
I watched this in spring. Geert's hypothesis seems poised for confirmation now in late July.
Confirmation! th-cam.com/video/CUaDSQki0Qw/w-d-xo.html
@@MrMoonFlame LMAO! What a load of absolute B.S. Malone is completely DEBUNKED and has NO EVIDENCE of his claims, period.
No, Geert is as wrong as it gets and a very paranoid and widely lambasted conspiracy theorist nut.
@@MrBilld75 Lab-leak was "fringe" and a "conspiracy" a year ago. Vanden Bossche seems judicious, sober and quite reasonable. I think we should all be a little worried.
@@MrBilld75 boring troll :)
When is Fuacci going to explain , to the public, his role and reasoning for funding this gain of function with the ccp?
Not until The Rothschild's are done using him. Then they'll just kill him off 😄
we know how this turned out now.. Just lie through his teeth sad face lol
Never. But hopefully, he will be charged w crimes against humanity and sent away for a long vacation from the public.
@@bravo368900 Good point. I like your thinking. It might be the Rockefellers too.
100%
Thank you for your honesty. I’m disgusted by the cowardice in academia and the medical community. Thank you for what you’re doing!
A significant number of nurses are not taking the vaccine. And people say they are being stupid. Maybe not??
I highly recommend Geert’s website for citations to peer reviewed research mentioned here. Having listened to Vincent Racaniello’s virology lectures, it is as if natural immunology is eschewed by the establishment over adaptive immunology with the help of big pharma. We can’t afford this type of thinking.
Thanks for your post, I was not even aware that he has a website
This is the discussion that should have taken place long ago and by many scientists and politicians.
Just the fact that Geert used the phrase 'In my humble opinion' in a sincere way should make it apparent he's a truth seeker. The challenge on a societal level is how to promote and get the decent sincere people with very little ego in charge in place of the egomaniacal nutjobs that have been in place for decades now.
Power corrupts all. Small government weirdos like me believe that the more power and influence government has, the more abuse happens. The only solution is decentralization and localism.
Power attracts sociopaths.
Man wants to play God. They think that they can improve on God's immune system. By mass vaccination, they will weaken our immune system to fight against mutated viruses. Those who take these vaccines will end up being destroyed.
DO NOT TAKE THE VACCINES CREATED BY THESE MAD DOCTORS AND SCIENTISTS.
You will have no one to blame but yourself because you allowed yourself to be injected.
The issue is whether you trust in God and your immune system that he has created for you, or whether you trust these fools who want to play God and
to enforce mankind to take their vaccines.
Geert is a debunked liar conspiracy theorist. Epic levels of paranoid nonsense and lambasted by many much smarter than him.
@@MrBilld75 Source?
Bret is a gifted educator. Experts are great but Bret really helps with understanding.
Brett is so smart it's ridiculous
Its fantastic I just have so much respect and admiration for him!
Not often I think someone might be cleverer than me.
He described B-cell immunity wrongly.
You should hear his brother.
@@KarenNLee hahaha beat me to it
I'm here from the future telling you Geert was correct.
Yes and he is now red alert we are about to have a depopulatiin event in just months
These conversations are amazing. I have to break them up into small chunks to actually digest the content. Reminds me of school! :o)
After hearing this, I believe we are even closer to the precipice than we´ve been until now. Thank you, Bret, for your courage and determination. Thank you Geert, for all the work you´ve done and for your sense of responsibility to humanity. I just put the link to this video on FB. Let´s see how long it lasts there.....
I posted this video on Facebook and it was blocked within 2-3 hours.
Interesting. My post has not been blocked, but it has a "warning" from the "fact-checkers" that it "may be missing context", whatever on earth that means...
Precipice of what?
@@bouji_ The precipice I mention is a very dark and deep hole in which nobody is allowed to say or hear ideas that do not coincide with the officially sanctioned narrative that defines "truth".
Heather and Brett discuss the FB "warnings" on their 4/24 podcast.
This was one of the best conversations I’ve heard in the last couple of years! Fantastic job! Loved it!
This might be the scariest podcast I have ever seen.
Possibly the best podcast I’ve heard. It makes sense!
Are they talking about "antibody dependant enhancement"?
Thus far I have not been remotely worried about the virus with regard to myself. But I am now worried about the next couple of years, whether I am vaccinated or not.
Yes I am too.
Move out to the country. The less people around, the less possibility of exposure.
Same!
We have been enrolled in the biggest experiment ever! The people buying into the propaganda and taking the vax are the volunteers, and those who refuse the vax are the control group. It will play out over the next couple years.
@@eileens4943 Yes, except that the control group are being contaminated by the vaccinated through viral shedding from them.
Thanks for giving him space to unravel his idea, right or wrong, one deserves the right to add to the conversation, seen so many hatchet shaming pieces on him, who knows he may be closer to the truth than we know, I am a more educated person after this, good luck to him
It’s refreshing to listen to this Doctor; he makes total sense.
Excellent discussion. I urge everyone to take the time to really listen to this.
This was the best 1 hour and 47 minutes ever spent. My mind is blown away, thank you for these amazing conversations!
I feel the same
So, since you both appear to have understood, could you please explain why he says it's best to be seronegative?
He was right, and is right!
I’m from future. Geert nailed it.
I just shared this video on Facebook, and it said "indipendant facts checkers say this information may mislead people". Scary censourship, isnt it!
It's been going on all year!!!
Boycott FB. It’s the only way.
Bots
Yes, I have seen it before. But it seems that it's getting faster and stricter when it comes to what posts are targeted. This is just a scientific dispute with different opinions. Its a madness to censor that! Dystopia, here we come...
An explosive new study by researchers at the prestigious Salk Institute casts doubt on the current crop of gene-based vaccines that may pose a grave risk to public health. The article, which is titled “The novel coronavirus’ spike protein plays an additional key role in illness”, shows that SARS-CoV-2’s “distinctive ‘spike’ protein”….”damages cells, confirming COVID-19 as a primarily vascular disease.” While the paper focuses strictly on Covid-related issues, it unavoidably raises questions about the new vaccines that contain billions of spike proteins that could greatly increase the chances of severe illness or death.
Now there is solid evidence that:
Covid-19 is primarily a disease of the vascular system (The vascular system, also called the circulatory system, is made up of the vessels that carry blood and lymph through the body.) and not the respiratory system.
The main culprit is the spike protein. (Spike protein-“a glycoprotein that protrudes from the envelope of some viruses” Merriam-Webster “Like a key in a lock, these spike proteins fuse to receptors on the surface of cells, allowing the virus’s genetic code to invade the host cell, take over its machinery and replicate.” Bruce Lieberman)
If Covid-19 is primarily a vascular disease and if the main instrument of physical damage is the spike protein, then why are we injecting people with billions of spike proteins?
Do you think it’s a good idea to bypass the first (defenses) of your immune system, and inject… trillions of spike proteins in your cells given the information that has just been released by the Salk Institute? Think about it….
I want to personally thank Bret for continually sharing with his audience his clarity of thought, his ability to distil complex ideas into more digestible pieces of information and, perhaps above all, his desire to seek truth and speak honestly on important topics.
Thank you so much for this information! It.confirms what I have always been convinced of. I believe 100 % in my inate immunsystem and I have realized it works really admirably. I am 77 year old.vegatarian, " addicted to sports". 8 weeks I got covid, however never any.temperature, no headache, ony loss of taste and smell, I didn't stay in bed, exercised in my garden.. I am now perfectly healthy again. Thank you again for your wonderful presentation.
I would love for the world to see a live debate between Geert Vanden Bossche and Anthony Fauci on the covid-19 vaccine and variants in the process of immune escape. No censorships, no propaganda...just truth and letting people decide what is best for them and their families based on the information from the debate, hence an "informed decision."
That would be like having a debate about space aliens and what we need to do about them kidnapping children. We would have a false world view, as space aliens do not exist!
Best analogy I've seen to explain how the virus and vaccine interact. I can explain this to my kids now and they will get it. That was brilliant!!!
How did the conversation with your kids go? How old are they?
What'd they think?
@@user-bp3xk5uz4q It opened up a whole conversation with everybody. They loved it. Mostly the little one (9 years), who started to ask questions.
The 20 and 17 years old seemed for the first time to have interest on a conversation about COVID, and viruses.
@@loremipsum720 Would be a difficult conversation to have with kids that age. I'd be worried that it left them feeling very sad and depressed. I'm glad it went well.
Been following Gert for months. So happy to see you had him on.
Wert Wanstden
Finelly someone.. I was asking microb tv guys, to host epizode with Gert for months...
This needs to be played on alllll mainstream media stations to educate the world.
"we are always setting the stage of our next battle!"....your ideas and words flow gently and are so easily understood! Thank you! Thank you, both...for your calm clarity!👍
Geert really appreciates the hosts knowledge and understanding. This makes for an excellent lecture. Very cool. I hope you do more together.
Belgium has some smart people! Thanks for getting Geert on this show!
But the dumb ones are in power
He’s basically saying stop vaccinating. So let millions upon millions of old people die. I really really don’t understand what’s the option he’s proposing.
@@millmoormichael6630
"He’s basically saying stop vaccinating. So let millions upon millions of old people die. I really really don’t understand what’s the option he’s proposing."
He's not saying that at all.
I'll summarize what he is saying :
1) A vaccine like the ones we have now is a good idea before a pandemic, before there are variants.
2) A vaccine like this is not a good idea during a pandemic, because we are training the immune system on the original virus, but it doesn't offer protection against the original virus
3) A vaccine that doesn't work well against the variations of the virus, could actually be worse because your body will respond by attacking the original virus ( adaptive immunity), but in doing so hinders your innate immunity. So a healthy person that would otherwise be able to kill a variant of the virus on his own, may after getting the original vaccine be less capable of defeating the virus.
Geert is not asking people to stop vaccinating. He's raising awareness to this potential problem. We don't have working solution for it yet (Geert does present some ideas in this video), that's why this needs to be discussed openly and honestly, so that we may be able to come up with solutions and strategies to solve the problem.
Geert is speaking up about this out of moral consideration, rather than remaining silent which would be much safer for him. That's courage, which is sorrely lacking these days.
He could be mistaken, but he deserves to be taken seriously, not demonized as some anti-vaxxer.
@@bjorndevos9002 That's because the smart ones are smart enough to stay away from the infernal cess-pool that is our politics.
Thank you so much for helping us understand what is happening.
Extremely brave of you gentlemen and what we can do is share this conversation to help.
Thank-you Geert for educating people about challenges with the timing of vaccinations.
Brilliant interview this has really educated and opened my eyes to the games that are taking place and they are playing with people's lives.
Bill Gates, Soros, youtube, Google, Facebook, IBM…
"The germ is nothing. The Terrain is everything.” By terrain, he meant the internal balance of the body - the health of the cells and the immune system. -- Louis Pasteur (Inventor of the pasteurization process)
You should add that came from his deathbed when he realized he was wrong and Béchamp had the right idea.
Antoinne Bechamp is the one who promoted the Terrain Theory. Pasteur promoted the germ theory. Pasteur only recanted the germ theory on his death bed. Big pharma is still running with the germ theory.
Watching this again in Sep 2021. Geert seems even more spot on. Delta is raging and the newest Mu Variant is starting to make headlines. However the media is arguing that the variants are being driven by the unvaccinated rather than the vaccinated.
Coming from the future, our overlords finally decided to call the variant after Delta, Omicron. It's never gonna stop...
The vaccinated are shedding the virus, not the unvaccinated. The govt and media will lay the blame at our feet. They want people to turn on each other.