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One absolutely critical flaw this movie made was NEVER removing the POV from Winstead's character, giving the audience someone they could always trust. The '82 version had a 10 minute(or so) segment of Macready going outside and you not seeing him, so when he gets back even the audience is suspicious of him.
Agreed. If there had even been a few minutes of Carter searching for her, then hearing a noise, then she wakes up--you wouldn't know for sure which one got assimilated.
Definitely. Also the late-in-development decision to go with CGI was a fucking travesty. The practical effects of the first film were tough to pull off, but worth absolutely every setback they ever went through.
@@Lucifronz For sure, I've seen some of the practical props they were going to use for the end of the movie and it was so much better. Leave it to big Hollywood to ruin it lmao.
I can’t tell if this was intentional or not by the writers but I like to imagine the thing in this movie was ignorant to how smart the humans were and that’s why it was much more aggressive than it was sneaky in the carpenter version because it underestimated humans and just assumed they were stupid.
That was one of my problems with the behavior of the monster but now that you put it in perspective I can see how that makes sense. I like your theory.
That makes a lot of sense. If I was a creature that was on an alien planet, and I had an ability I knew the life there didn’t, I would definitely assume they were much less intelligent, especially if they couldn’t do much or any space travel. If anything, it may have encountered satellites, scanned them, and saw how inferior they were and became more arrogant
well the movie originally wasn't going to use this much CG, with lots of practical effects. Even the weird pixelated shit in the ship was supposed to be a big alien puppet but the studio interfered and forced CGI in the movie
The thing about cgi that baffles me is that even when it's bad cg if you take a frame of it, it still looks good, often reallly good. It's something about the motion that seems to get people, I've seen people say it's becasue the cgi is animated at a different frame rate than the movie was filmed at.
It's to do with the motion. One frame on its own can look fine, but how the element moves between frames can look less realistic, especially if rushed.
I think it's two things (lol), the lighting and movement. Lighting because the thing is way too visible all the time, and they use those really weird shading on the monster that highlights it too well. Then the movement, it seems like they aniamted it a bit too much, like EVERY part of the thing has to move all the time, which is very unnatural (that sounds like a good idea but it's not), also i dont know if they animated the monster at 24ips but it seems way too smooth, like they tried to hide it with motion blur, but TERRIBLE motion blur that doesnt match the camera
It’s the lack of natural motion blur! Realistic movement with cg is really hard to nail down because everyone wants to make it look as smooth as possible
@@humaneIP good horror film just like the 1st one. Only flaw was shitty, overblown hollywood climax in the spaceship. Harder to identify with the norwegian crew than the original bunch of americans but a worthy sequel. They should have broke the mould and had a big bellied old scientist as the hero instead of the standard ripleyesque stereotype. Do something different fof christ's sake!
the first movie had believable characters. the second just had place holders for more kills and to make sure everything was how it was found in the first. also plus the first had more practical effects!
I feel bad for the people who made the movie, they had all these practical effects and a really awesome original ending, but the higher ups once again ruined it.
@@jasoncaldwell8199 i looked it up and from what i found, apparently the original ending was supposed to be them finding some sort of alien pilot among a spaceship? that's what i gathered. i'm not entirely sure.
@@ericolsen5592 You play as some character that is trying to figure out what happened to the norweigan and american team, you fight some normal soldiers and the thing. All I remember was that the end fight consists of you getting in a chopper with some unknown pilot. And then you got to destroy The Thing once and for all which has grown to a huge thing, then when flying away you ask the pilot who he is and he says he's the same pilot from the 80's movie Mac. And they leave it open to determine if he is the thing or Mac. And because everytime a movie has pulled this clichée, they are never human so I'm guessing that The thing was mimicing Mac and got away in the end.
@@patpesan2268 because the executives of the movie fucked this movie over completely. You should check out GoodBadFlicks video on this movie. It was going to be pretty different and all practical
Fucking Universal man. The director had originally wanted puppets witch CG enhancements like tentacles and whatnot but the studio got too scared. It's a shame too because you can see that the crew were really passionate about this project and wanted to make a worthy tribute to a classic film.
I'm with Demowan on this, yes it assimilates and assumes the properties of what it consumes. However that doesn't limit its abilities to that one thing, it's more like a DNA data bank where it can use ANY properties from ANYTHING it has consumed. That and it's 'default' Thing properties too.
It’s still unknown though, the thing in the ice wasn’t actually “the thing” it was mimicking another alien life form. The actual thing is like microscopic cells
Maybe I should have used something like: "Rarely" or "Not often we get a good look at it" unlike in this one where everyone turns into cgi right off the bat. xD
What I like about the prequel is that "The Thing" learned from his mistakes in the Norwegian Base camp and therefore sneaky in the U.S. Basecamp of the 1982 classic.
To be honest I don't think the movie was fully bad the acting is pretty good and the ending where it leads to the original thing is actually really cool but yeah I agree the cgi is bad
I didn't particularly like the movie after the whole incident with the Thing killing almost everyone off in the room and not doing anything about it until there were only two people alive.
Sadpants McGee it didint, when the thing heard her talk about it he felt for the closest ear to feign surprise that the earring wasnt there. But it got the wrong ear
@@CaptainCocaine it didnt when it transformed, because it was looking at him it put the earring in the ear it saw from behind which wouldnt be the correct ear when facing some one head on thus when she looked at him it was the wrong side. Meaning the creature tried to put the earring back to act as if nothing was wrong but didnt account the correct ear.
The story was actually well executed and seemed to line up perfectly. The problem was I didn't care about the characters. They didn't have any emotional impact at all like they did in the 82 version. The second big problem was they kept ripping the same ideas from the original as you stated. And the third problem was overreliance on CGI instead of practical effects.
@@justafurrywithinternet317 Studio interference is the reason behind the CGI. If I was a director, and I had talented people who created absolutely _incredible_ practical effects, I would be *fucking pissed* if the studio said, "Nah, who cares about practical effects? Let's replace everything the effects artists worked hard on with cheap CGI, because people will like CGI more!"
How many scenarios can you really use in a research station out in the boonies? Doesn't help that they have to stick to the continuity the original already established since it's a prequel. So obviously they'd end up using the same ideas. Imagine how pissed you'd be if the prequel suddenly threw out everything the original went through and suddenly just did everything in an urban jungle setting filled with gang wars, which completely has nothing to do with research stations in antarctica, just because you didn't want it to be the same setting/ideas.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Aside from physical objects being where they need to be and looking the same, only the end result needs to be consistent with the original. Other than that, a better movie would have been far more original. What that would have been I'm not smart enough to imagine, but if they weren't going to make it more original, there was no point making this prequel.
@jamespwickstrom8731Why does bringing in a girl matter. There were 2 women in the movie. The original Thing didn't have any, but I don't see why it's problematic to introduce some at a completely different research facility. Weird part of your comment to complain about something that minor
Studio: I don’t care, remove that horrid practical effects and replace it with CGI. Oh, as change that ending, that “pilot” monster is not scary compared to our masterpiece, a pasted head on a monster, and that ending is no where near a masterpiece compared to our ending.
interestingly it wasnt entirely CG. Theres behind the scenes footage of some of the animatronics they used. I think they are just far better looking on their own, but as a result of the added CGI to do the impossible things (like the face merge) they end up looking fake. Shame really.
The sad part is they did a ton of practical effect work that was written over by CGI models. And you can tell they could have done better CGI work since some of it is fine. I 100% agree with him, the movie would have been a lot better with more practical or at least better CG work. As a huge fan of the 1982 film and a fan of this one, I loved the homages, the lead up to the 1982 film but really cringed at some of the effects. The 1982 film made me horrified with every monster it showed, this film made me snicker at some.
It's so ironic that the only guy who doesn't speak or understand English is the only survivor. If it had just been someone else they guys in the 82 movie wouldn't have died
It's because of the first movie. The surviving Norwegian is the same man who tries to warn the men in the first movie, who then gets killed because they thought he was crazy. And because he was shouting at then in Norwegian armed with an AR-15.
As a huge fan of the original I really liked the prequel. I do think it was a huge mistake not to have practical effects, and some of the cgi was really horrible. I just really enjoyed seeing more of the story though and wasn't really bothered by it's shortcomings.
Cool fact: James before the kill count spins because his eyes dont have a light as a producer said that in the 82 the best way to find who is the thing is by looking at their eyes when the camera is only pointed at their face if they have light they're innocent if they dont they are the thing
Studio interference really messed this one up. They also had more nods/references to the Carpenter one but they were cut. But people thinking it was a remake and that Kate was basically MacReady because she used the flamethrower in the trailer, and not wanting to see it, didn't help it either.
@@TheBraunMachine2011 that's so depressing. The Thing had enough of a following that it would've still made money even without the "modernization " via cgi
@@brittanyr9471 the execs excuse was that it looked too much like an 80s movie... (which was the whole point of the film, to be a faithful tribute to the original)
@@Bababooey759 yeah but the way I watched the films I watched “The Thing (2011)” first, then The Thing (1982). I had no idea the 2011 one was a prequel.
Art designers: Uh yeah, we made all the practical effects, everything is good to go. Business people: Great, we'll put CG on top of those after shooting. Art designers: What, why? Business people: People will love it! *As it turns out, people didn't actually love it.*
Usually movie executives like universal, Disney, Warner etc Usually come to see whats cooking and if there's something they don't like they have the power to change certain things. Hence why alot of directors don't have a whole lot of creative freedom.
I hate it when Studio Executives do this shit. Fun fact: Did you know that Studio Executives were the ones behind Sonic's original movie design? As in, the nightmare fuel human teeth creature that got replaced by the significantly more aesthetically pleasing cartoonish design?
Because people acted like it was terrible. It's not as good as the John Carpenter one from the 80s but it's certainly not terrible. I think a bunch of people use the CGI as a crutch to act like every part of this movie is awful
"So want do you want to watch for movie night?" "How about The Thing?" "Oh awesome I've got it right here!" "No not that Thing, the OTHER Thing!" "Which Thing?" "The Thing that came before that Thing!" "Oh you mean this Thing?" "Yes, THAT thing!" "Man. We need to stop getting our things mixed up."
*Someone in real life dies in front of james* James: I'll give it a dull machete for lamest kill. Why does this comment have more likes then James actual comment?
The worst part about the CGI in this movie is that they were originally going to use practical effects, only they replaced the effects in post because it was looking "too much like an 80s movie". >:(
The Thing 2011 has its flaws but it will always hold a special place in my heart because it birthed my love of horror. When I was a kid way back in 2012, there was a shelf of DVDs in my local supermarket. Right at my eye level was a DVD release of The Thing 2011. It had an image of a man in a hooded winter coat kneeling in the snow. One hand was human, the other was a tendril-like claw. Underneath the title was the tagline “It’s Not Human…Yet”. It all sent my 8 year old mind whirring, and I couldn’t help but be captivated by it. What is “The Thing”? Why is it becoming human? What’s wrong with this guy’s hand? It all disturbed me, but it stirred an odd fascination in me. And that has remained prevalent into my adulthood. So I will always hold The Thing 2011 close for being the catalyst of my love for horror.
Yikes, as if the tagline from the 1982 movie wasn’t bad enough. When I first watched the trailer for the “original” becuase I hadn’t actually watched it before (for some reason), as soon as the whole screen went black, silent and a basic white font read: _Man is the warmest place to hide._ I quickly remembered why I adore it so much.
If you see the making of the prequel, they actually did set for having mostly practical effects and little cgi to tie the ends but due to limitations and changes forced on the team with little time led to still a decent movie that I find better than most movies especially during this time where cgi was still relatively new.
Rather than calling this movie "The Thing", they should've called it "The Other Thing", or as a throwback to the original, "The Thing From Another Thing". Then they could have made a new one called, "And One More Thing...", and perhaps a musical adaptation called "Thingamajig".
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0:34 Oh shit, me too. I'm not really a horror movie buff, though, so the pool of horror movies I enjoy is quite small. The Thing just stands out tremendously for me, though. It's a movie that no matter how many times I watch it, I'm as gripped as the first time I saw it all those years ago. It's an absolute masterpiece and I won't hear a word otherwise.
Amalgamated Dynamics had also worked on this film, but the director decided to do the shot scenes completely with CGI. This is probably the biggest mistake the director has made with this film. The shot scenes look fantastic, along with some complementary CGI effects, the results would have been far more impressive than the unfortunately published version. th-cam.com/video/JyOu3j7CtoE/w-d-xo.html
To be fair, the thing doesn’t understand the importance of those types of small details quite yet. Putting the earring on the wrong ear is a mistake it probably didn’t even consider. That’s why in the original (after the thing has more knowledge) it’s way more crafty and smart in the way it plans, sabotages and gets everyone to go crazy.
Apparently this movie was originally done with practical effects but the studio didn't like it and forced them to go back and do it over with CGI instead. The CG was done all last minute.
Yup, you can even find videos online of the actors in the prequel next to practical effects, and images of them getting killed by the practical monster. It's disappointing that the Execs at the studio forced them to use CG because some of the effects look absolutely amazing.
Yeah they actually used practical models for almost all the thing hybrids, except the last one I think. Most of the computer stuff is extra whipping tentacles. The FX deserve more credit than they get.
I feel sorry for both of the teams. The practical affects team had thier work ripped out of the film, while the cgi team had been set up to fail due to the lack of measurements to properly design and place the cgi models. Executives should be banned from giving any input into movies, since most of them know nothing about making them.
The solution isn't as straightforward as "banning execs from giving input." No exec is going to pay for a movie that they have no control over. Terms of contract have to be negotiable.
I love to watch this film and then the 1982 film right after it! There's a smooth transition from the end scene of the prequel and the beginning of the Carpenter classic. They took such care in the details of the helicopter while it chases down the dog, one would assume they were shot at the same time. I can't say enough about the 2011 prequel. Such an under-appreciated film!
Only problems I had with it were the cgi and the fact this movie copies many elements from the 1982 film. Also the fact the Thing was kinda stupid in this film. But when I look past those things I can still appreciate the fact the people behind this film actually WERE doing practical effects for this film but were forced to do CGI unfortunately. This could have been so much better than what we got.
@Brakkk MinecraftWhich is kinda a problem with the whole franchise. Since it can simulate on a cellular level, the Thing is very stupid. Cause all it needed to do, was split, bleed, or even more subtle just put a layer of cells on every dornob. In real life situation, no one would be able to kill it. Even burning wouldn't kill it, cause it would only kill the outter cells, the inner cells would still be alive and infective. Both movies, any time they touched a thing corpse, even with gloves on, they would be infected. Anytime it bleeds, they infected. If they ever in the same area and it breaths, they are infected. They never state if there was a limit, or anything. Both moves show it's cellular. So even the 'lamest kill' in this video, who just got impaled and bleed out? He'd eventually turn into the thing too.
Brakkk Minecraft mmm for my take as in the original where one got caught cause it didn’t have enough energy fast enough, I think that overall a few cells here and there would not have the strength especially if left off from the functioning mass too long to fully infect an individual, which is why it prefers up close and personal conversion with a bigger mass or in private if it can
Sometimes simple deaths like carter or whatever his name is, getting stabbed through the chest and dieing of blood loss are a good thing for a little contrast from the crazy scenes like the ending scene with the “final form” thing being exist.
The big tower of pixels in the ship was actually to cover up the original scene: She meets a hologram of the original pilot who basically had a zoo ship. The Thing is one of it's 'exhibits' that escaped and ate everything else, including the pilot. It's how they explain the mass variety of limbs and such it's able to create as weapons/body parts/etc.
Its a crime that John Carpenter, Kurt Russell & Keith David are all still alive and we don't have a The Thing sequel. P.S. Its time for recounts for both thing movies set with theories, behind the scenes & all the bonus stuff james provides.
Actually, John Carpenter is working on a sequel called Return of The Thing. I don’t think it’ll have MacReady or Childs in it since they both died in the end of the original.
6:39 Griggs was an impostor 7:44 Juliette was an impostor 8:06 Body reported 8:51 laboratory sabotage 10:22 Edvard was an impostor 12:37 Kate vented(for fun she not imposter) 12:57 Dr. Halvorsan was an impostor 13:50 Carter was the impostor *Crewmates Victory*
I always thought, when they were arguing about the metal fillings and some people didn't have any fillings, why not just pierce their ears and make them wear an earring? Earrings are also rejected by the Thing so it should work, if anyone's earring goes missing you know, not eveyone would have fillings but a pierced ear you can do anywhere.
I think the Thing would be smart enough to know that would be an important part of the disguise based on the assimilateds memory and just do it to itself though, I imagine it would be pretty much impossible to put fillings where the teeth are supposed to be and then form its body around them
The Thing doesn't create the metal parts (fillings, earrings, etc.) when it creates a mimic duplicate. But there's nothing to suggest it would actively reject an earring.
"I'm gonna get killed because I floss" LOL only guy without dental fillings is sarcastic too XD at least he takes care of his teeth, dental hygiene is important bro
It really sucks that they used CG instead of practical effects especially since the practical effects that were originally gonna be used looked incredible!
@@RubleInnawoods I think the guy who replied to you was talking about how all the effects were originally going to be practical. but the directors changed it.
People don't seem to realize is it was made to look like a remake. Until the end when you find out that it's a prequel. And it was never supposed to have any CG monsters, in fact it was made without CG. But then the studio insisted CG be inserted.
This partially true. The practical effects were filmed with the intention of supplementing them with CGI. Then it got pushed to another level and the practical effects were almost entirely replaced. I dont find the CGI in this movie to be fantastic, but they also didnt necessarily hurt the viewing experience for me. They were adequate for such a weird creature
No. What people don't seem to realize is that a prequel to this movie was completely unnecessary. I feel we're glossing over points that don't matter over the ones that actually do.
I love how the Prequel manages to tie in to the Sequel with the Axe in the Wall, Colin’s frozen dead body after suicide and the 2 dudes chasing after the “Dog”
The saddest part about this movie is that it originally WAS done with practical effects but the studio decided to go with cgi instead at the last minute so they edited over the practical effects were edited over. Studio ADI did the effects and have behind the scenes videos of their practical effects and they looked really good
1st movie: the thing 2nd movie: this thing 3rd movie: that thing 4th movie: their thing 5th movie: these thing 6th movie: those thing 7th movie: They thing 8th movie: We thing 9th movie: Your thing 10th movie: my thing 11th movie: He thing 12th movie: she thing 13th movie: its thing 14th movie: our thing 15th movie: da thing 16th movie: last thing
I remember watching this as a kid with my parents and there wasn't three seats so we just bought 2 and I sat on my dads lap. And in the middle of the movie, his phone vibrated and I screamed.
that's all well and good but I know I'd never take my daughter to see anything this violent as a kid, I'd just tell her, when you're older and you want to see stuff like this.....
See... this movie is great. Or at least it would’ve been. The reason everyone hates it isn’t the fault of the studio that made it. It’s the fault of the the people just above the studio. Amalgamated Dynamics Inc. wanted to use all practical effects but the studio above them (I believe it was Universal) said they didn’t like it and completely cut the practical effects (which look amazing in behind the scenes footage by the way) in favor of terrible cgi because it looked like an 80’s movie and people wouldn’t want to see it... THATS LITERALLY WHY ADI MADE IT! ADI shot the movie with older equipment because they wanted it to seem similar to John Carpenter’s “The Thing” so that when you watch them back to back, they transition perfectly. But no instead we got shitty CG and the franchise paid for it. This is why modern Universal sucks. They want everything to be done the new way. What’s the point in trying to revive an already awesome movie if you’re gonna take over production of the sequel and make it a total shit show? 😔 this movie was almost so good. It was close to being just as good if not better than the original if it weren’t for Universal’s decision to make the effects all CGI. Hell the original ending was cooler than what we got. There was a “Pilot Ending” where Kate entered the spaceship and saw all the dead aliens that the thing killed and then she would’ve seen the Sander-Thing pretending to be one of the pilots. That thing would’ve tried to attack her just as Carter cane in and killed it to convince Kate that he was human (he wasn’t). Instead we got the “Tetris Ending where instead of the pilot we see a stupid dumbass Tetris looking hologram and then the Sander-Thing pops up and is like “hello I’m gonna kill you now. Is that cool? :D” God damn it this movie would’ve been so cool. 😭
I thought the special effects were suitably effective. I was more into the overall vibe of the movie. I remember watching a video of the 1982 fim with my girlfriend and she thought the special effects were totally unconvincing and hee hawed all the way through it!
kevin harkness well yeah they’re obviously outdated but ya gotta think about how insanely realistic that was at the time and how they didn’t have the best of effects anyway back then so there was nothing to fix that with.
i would pay 100$ if i could've had the practical effects and the old ending. i wish they can redo the old ending into like the sequel or something. but with probably more practical and a even amount of CGI cause they could've just make this look like non-ish CGI by combining the CGI with the practical they already had.
The og version of this movie had practical effects. It was a last minute decision to get rid of it and replace it with cgi. The practical was much better. Horrible choice.
The plot was also changed last minute too. That stupid out-of-place pixelated control system in the alien ship was CGI’d over another prosthetic alien race (not the thing) but they decided to turn the final scene into a pathetic chase. We would’ve had an additional 20~ minutes explaining the death of the guy with the earring, what happened with the spaceship crash landing, and the impact the thing had on the other alien race. The studio ended up ruining all the hard work of the prosthetics artists and script-writers just so they could add more “drama” and explosions...
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[ Madman ] good analysis of the alien organism. We really don't know the alien lifeform's true appearance or how many other creatures it encountered before coming to Earth. So, who knows. And yeah, like the Flood from Halo, all it takes is a single blood cell and boom! Everything dies.
The physical effects tell us that the alien ship was in fact of an alien species which collects lifeforms from all planets. However the Thing, which was in the collection, escaped so the alien crashed the ship on earth to prevent it from spreading. They even made an entire body for the alien but the studio decided to shit all over this movie with CGI and thoughtless action. Such a shame.
The worst part about this movie is that they actually DID do it all with awesome practical effects, but the studio made them replace all the effects shots with cgi before the movie got released :( Also "substitute Mac, which I guess makes him a Whopper" is a masterclass pun dude.
Right about the practical effect replaced at the last minute by those cheap ugly CGI. But even if only good practical effects would have been used, this movie would still be a mess: the disposable characters, the forgettable soundtrack and the fact that the Thing itself is so stupid, has no refined strategy and is not reserved when assimilating somebody (except Colin with Juliette... but even here the evidences haven't been removed by them) unlike the 1984 version.
Honestly, I would have find this movie a lot more interesting if they did like 'Us' revealing the 'main' character (Kate or I don't know, any other) was actually a Thing all the time and was just manipulating everyone in the base to complete it's goal, whatever it is. The Thing would have been more of a interesting antagonist if it had a more clear goal, it looks like is just killing everyone for funsies, which is kinda ridiculous, if it can pretend to be human, then that means it is a intelligent being, however, almost all scenes with the Thing killing someone makes it seems like it's just some clueless animal who just go for its instincts, but it's not. At the end, it actually tries to talk it's way into Kate and manipulate her, so it proves it is a conscious being, which just make the movie dumber, in my opinion.
@EL AUTENTICO I also like other old horror movies cuz the didn't had that much of animation possibilities so they used ppl to dress as the aliens which made it more life and to my liking
"for funsies" not really. You could theorize that the thing needs fresh biomass to survive. It could also be a parasitic life form. Those do exist in real life you know. "interesting antagonist if it had a more clear goal" It's an enigmatic alien life form that can mimic any living creature it comes in contact with. The thing is smart enough to mimic speech. Divide people and pit them against each other. The thing as a creature is so damn interesting. Plus we do know what it was trying to achieve. The thing wanted to leave earth. You might've missed that if you didn't watch John Carpenter's the thing. I am not gonna spoil what it is if you didn't watch it. I am just gonna say that it is pretty clear. "Thing killing someone makes it seems like it's just some clueless animal who just go for its instincts" This was the Thing's first encounter with humans probably. The thing didn't know how would they react to it. It probably didn't see any threatening weapons on the humans, like claws for example, and it presumed that humans were helpless. By the end of the movie, the thing learned how cunning and effective humans can be. Which is why it had a different approach by the end.
I completely agree. The dumbest moment has to be when she is literally alone with an assimilated Thing, and it fails to kill her. It could've literally walked up to her and started assimilating her. I hate this movie XD
Wrong. It sucks. You are clueless and have no taste and no appreciation for Carpenter's film if you say the 2011 prequel is not a bad film. It *is* bad. It's garbage, really. Everything about it sucks.
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One absolutely critical flaw this movie made was NEVER removing the POV from Winstead's character, giving the audience someone they could always trust. The '82 version had a 10 minute(or so) segment of Macready going outside and you not seeing him, so when he gets back even the audience is suspicious of him.
Agreed. If there had even been a few minutes of Carter searching for her, then hearing a noise, then she wakes up--you wouldn't know for sure which one got assimilated.
Its especially bad because the metal logic makes it completely certain which characters aren't the thing
Definitely. Also the late-in-development decision to go with CGI was a fucking travesty. The practical effects of the first film were tough to pull off, but worth absolutely every setback they ever went through.
@@Lucifronz For sure, I've seen some of the practical props they were going to use for the end of the movie and it was so much better. Leave it to big Hollywood to ruin it lmao.
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The worst Part about the cgi is no one actually working on the movie wanted to use it ,they even made practical effects, but the studio demanded cg
Not just demanded. They changed the movie after filming to include CG WITHOUT consent of the makers.
This is one of the biggest problems with cinema now
Atleast they kept up with continuity
Without continuity it would be much worse
am I the only who liked most of the cgi?
Being a prequel, they really should have named this "who goes there?" Like the original short story. Who goes there? The thing.
@@insidious140 yeah
@@insidious140 take your acronyms to someone who cares
@@insidious140 That was a pathetic insult. Try harder next time, because you're just embarrassing yourself now.
Dam insidious why you trynna start an argument
I like that name. Good idea
I can’t tell if this was intentional or not by the writers but I like to imagine the thing in this movie was ignorant to how smart the humans were and that’s why it was much more aggressive than it was sneaky in the carpenter version because it underestimated humans and just assumed they were stupid.
that actually makes sense.
That was one of my problems with the behavior of the monster but now that you put it in perspective I can see how that makes sense. I like your theory.
That makes a lot of sense. If I was a creature that was on an alien planet, and I had an ability I knew the life there didn’t, I would definitely assume they were much less intelligent, especially if they couldn’t do much or any space travel. If anything, it may have encountered satellites, scanned them, and saw how inferior they were and became more arrogant
TBF, it's a reasonable initial assumption to come to.
I mean if I was basically a bioweapon and it was a bunch of people barely able to damage me I would definitely try and assimilate as much as I can.
You can tell the difference between older kill counts and newer ones, he’s really come to life in his narrations over time
yeah i thought he was sick in this video
Also much slower and casual later on
@@zacharycannaday6075 fr! I always play his old videos on .9 speed lmao
Thats why i love he is redoing Friday the 13th
It's annoying
The Thing Awakens would actually have been a great title for this movie.
Levi Phipps ikr
Or "The Thing: Origins". But I guess they didn't wanna blow in our faces that the movie is a prequel to the other one not a sequel.
Or The Thinging 😂
The Thing: Thawed or The Thing that Thawed would be my pick
"The Thingy" would have been even better. Thingamajig or thingaling could work too.
I think the worst thing about the CGI, is the fact that they filmed all the "Things" practically, then completely comped them out and made them CG.
Extremely frustrating
blame the studio
I think all three of the movies great
@@Александр-п3ц1в what
@@jestfullgremblim8002 what do you mean
you can tell james really put a lot of effort into properly pronouncing adewale akinnuoye-agbaje's name. good on him!
When the monster kills the dog first you know it's evil
Press Y for oof 😔
John Wick
It's always the dog first
John Wick heard you
Press Y to pay respect for doggo
The fact you're able to upload these a lot more is fucking excellent man
Lewis Darley Yes it is.
What's 9+8×9÷12×98×54÷76 guys
Joy Driggers im not sure you tell me
@@Justme-zy2id why
@@Justme-zy2id 887,8026315789474
A movie: uses CGI
James: you have chosen criticism
Finally a good comment
Perfect
@@auditorhank7941 just like your spaghetti
well the movie originally wasn't going to use this much CG, with lots of practical effects. Even the weird pixelated shit in the ship was supposed to be a big alien puppet but the studio interfered and forced CGI in the movie
hi
The thing about cgi that baffles me is that even when it's bad cg if you take a frame of it, it still looks good, often reallly good. It's something about the motion that seems to get people, I've seen people say it's becasue the cgi is animated at a different frame rate than the movie was filmed at.
you clearly haven't seen Anaconda 3. The cgi in that movie, still or not, haunts my nightmares with its terribleness
It's to do with the motion. One frame on its own can look fine, but how the element moves between frames can look less realistic, especially if rushed.
I think it's two things (lol), the lighting and movement. Lighting because the thing is way too visible all the time, and they use those really weird shading on the monster that highlights it too well. Then the movement, it seems like they aniamted it a bit too much, like EVERY part of the thing has to move all the time, which is very unnatural (that sounds like a good idea but it's not), also i dont know if they animated the monster at 24ips but it seems way too smooth, like they tried to hide it with motion blur, but TERRIBLE motion blur that doesnt match the camera
It’s the lack of natural motion blur! Realistic movement with cg is really hard to nail down because everyone wants to make it look as smooth as possible
The Thing 1982 : I cared for every character.
The Thing 2011 : literally did not give a damn when they died.
@@humaneIP good horror film just like the 1st one. Only flaw was shitty, overblown hollywood climax in the spaceship. Harder to identify with the norwegian crew than the original bunch of americans but a worthy sequel. They should have broke the mould and had a big bellied old scientist as the hero instead of the standard ripleyesque stereotype. Do something different fof christ's sake!
Ok boomer
the first movie had believable characters.
the second just had place holders for more kills and to make sure everything was how it was found in the first.
also plus the first had more practical effects!
@@insolencecassidy7709 yep exactly but it's still i little good
Same
I feel bad for the people who made the movie, they had all these practical effects and a really awesome original ending, but the higher ups once again ruined it.
What was the original ending?
@The Sentinel Yes it fucking was.
@Conrrado Torres Or explain it to people who can't play it
@@jasoncaldwell8199 i looked it up and from what i found, apparently the original ending was supposed to be them finding some sort of alien pilot among a spaceship? that's what i gathered. i'm not entirely sure.
@@ericolsen5592 You play as some character that is trying to figure out what happened to the norweigan and american team, you fight some normal soldiers and the thing. All I remember was that the end fight consists of you getting in a chopper with some unknown pilot. And then you got to destroy The Thing once and for all which has grown to a huge thing, then when flying away you ask the pilot who he is and he says he's the same pilot from the 80's movie Mac. And they leave it open to determine if he is the thing or Mac. And because everytime a movie has pulled this clichée, they are never human so I'm guessing that The thing was mimicing Mac and got away in the end.
The pixel thing that "Powers the ship" was originally supposed to be a pilot hanging himself.
But they cut it and put that over it
BluePhantom Productions seriously? Y?
@@patpesan2268 because the executives of the movie fucked this movie over completely. You should check out GoodBadFlicks video on this movie. It was going to be pretty different and all practical
Domenick boucher thanks 🙃
Fucking Universal man. The director had originally wanted puppets witch CG enhancements like tentacles and whatnot but the studio got too scared. It's a shame too because you can see that the crew were really passionate about this project and wanted to make a worthy tribute to a classic film.
How do you know
“I’m gonna get killed because I floss” my favorite and only existing dialogue in this movie. Nobody can convince me otherwise
“im gonna get killed because i floss” LMFAO SENIOR QUOTE RIGHT THERE
Fortnite intensifies
#seniorquoteofthecentrary
smol child_ bro just don’t floss
I need flossing
@@cheesiemcpastrie3954 century*
It's scary cause their faces still seem shocked after transformation so you can't tell if they still feel the pain after transforming
Hello icy hot boi
Icy hot balm
@Steve Waltl because we aren't stupid enough to be assimilated
@@castor9907 yes and resistance is futile
that was in my mind too... are they stll have human mind before transforming? please someone answer me...
This is "Low Energy" James that obviously hates this movie. But good lord that pronunciation of that name! Impressive.
Oop
ikr but sometimes he's like Hide the Pain Harold in movies he didn't like which make the videos more funnier.
Yeah I was thinking man James is quiet today
I noticed that too!
actually all of his earlier videos is "low energy james" he improved his speech later on^^
Every time James says "SABOTEUR" i lose it. No matter which video it is.
He said SABOTEUR and its funny
The thing absorbs anything
*Best Way to kill the thing*
Throw a fish
The thing absorbs:became fish
*Dies on land*
this is 200 iq!
Thats not 200 iq its 2000 iq
Wouldn't work, because the thing doesn't need to hide his identity from fishes... It could grow spider legs pretty easily.
I'm with Demowan on this, yes it assimilates and assumes the properties of what it consumes. However that doesn't limit its abilities to that one thing, it's more like a DNA data bank where it can use ANY properties from ANYTHING it has consumed. That and it's 'default' Thing properties too.
20000000000000000iq right there
James you get a bonus 100 points for pronouncing the pilots actor name without a struggle
Been a fan of his since Lost!
Took the comment right outta my keyboard. My man's articulation is off the charts.
How did he do that
Whaat's his name
lol, it's a Nigerian name. Yoruba Nigerian
The best thing about the original is that we never really get to see the monster.
I think the unknown is much scarier than a cgi teeth monster..
It’s still unknown though, the thing in the ice wasn’t actually “the thing” it was mimicking another alien life form. The actual thing is like microscopic cells
What do you mean "never get to see it"? The film is praised for its incredible effects for a reason, you know?
Maybe I should have used something like: "Rarely" or "Not often we get a good look at it"
unlike in this one where everyone turns into cgi right off the bat. xD
The only thing about this video is at 4:01, That's Lars, not Peder. Imao though
What I like about the prequel is that "The Thing" learned from his mistakes in the Norwegian Base camp and therefore sneaky in the U.S. Basecamp of the 1982 classic.
To be honest I don't think the movie was fully bad the acting is pretty good and the ending where it leads to the original thing is actually really cool but yeah I agree the cgi is bad
it didn’t actually have cgi at first, it had practical effects at first but universal replaced it entirely with cgi
@literallyericdravenfrl oh I know about that it sucks they got rid the practical effects BECAUSE UNIVERSAL LOVE CGI SHIT SINCE 1993
@@riofanl3638whats worse is that universal replaced the practical effects with cgi WITHOUT the consent of the team
story 100%
cgi - 100%
I didn't particularly like the movie after the whole incident with the Thing killing almost everyone off in the room and not doing anything about it until there were only two people alive.
Checks ear for earring.
Kate: “It was your other ear”
Me: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
How did it imitate the metal earring at all?
Sadpants McGee it didint, when the thing heard her talk about it he felt for the closest ear to feign surprise that the earring wasnt there. But it got the wrong ear
@@CaptainCocaine it didn't he got transformed at the UFO
@@CaptainCocaine it didnt when it transformed, because it was looking at him it put the earring in the ear it saw from behind which wouldnt be the correct ear when facing some one head on thus when she looked at him it was the wrong side. Meaning the creature tried to put the earring back to act as if nothing was wrong but didnt account the correct ear.
Yooo at that part I was like,
BRUUUUH I LIKED THAT DUDE WHYYYY
The story was actually well executed and seemed to line up perfectly. The problem was I didn't care about the characters. They didn't have any emotional impact at all like they did in the 82 version. The second big problem was they kept ripping the same ideas from the original as you stated. And the third problem was overreliance on CGI instead of practical effects.
And apparently there were practical effects at some point, but they got rid of em for whatever reason.
@@justafurrywithinternet317 Studio interference is the reason behind the CGI. If I was a director, and I had talented people who created absolutely _incredible_ practical effects, I would be *fucking pissed* if the studio said, "Nah, who cares about practical effects? Let's replace everything the effects artists worked hard on with cheap CGI, because people will like CGI more!"
How many scenarios can you really use in a research station out in the boonies? Doesn't help that they have to stick to the continuity the original already established since it's a prequel. So obviously they'd end up using the same ideas. Imagine how pissed you'd be if the prequel suddenly threw out everything the original went through and suddenly just did everything in an urban jungle setting filled with gang wars, which completely has nothing to do with research stations in antarctica, just because you didn't want it to be the same setting/ideas.
@@Wheres_my_Dragonator Aside from physical objects being where they need to be and looking the same, only the end result needs to be consistent with the original. Other than that, a better movie would have been far more original. What that would have been I'm not smart enough to imagine, but if they weren't going to make it more original, there was no point making this prequel.
@jamespwickstrom8731Why does bringing in a girl matter. There were 2 women in the movie. The original Thing didn't have any, but I don't see why it's problematic to introduce some at a completely different research facility. Weird part of your comment to complain about something that minor
Movie: has CGI
James: So you have chosen death
Director: See, I told you we shouldnt have used bad CGI, now were gonna get teased by James A Janisse!
Studio: I don’t care, remove that horrid practical effects and replace it with CGI. Oh, as change that ending, that “pilot” monster is not scary compared to our masterpiece, a pasted head on a monster, and that ending is no where near a masterpiece compared to our ending.
interestingly it wasnt entirely CG. Theres behind the scenes footage of some of the animatronics they used. I think they are just far better looking on their own, but as a result of the added CGI to do the impossible things (like the face merge) they end up looking fake. Shame really.
The sad part is they did a ton of practical effect work that was written over by CGI models. And you can tell they could have done better CGI work since some of it is fine. I 100% agree with him, the movie would have been a lot better with more practical or at least better CG work. As a huge fan of the 1982 film and a fan of this one, I loved the homages, the lead up to the 1982 film but really cringed at some of the effects. The 1982 film made me horrified with every monster it showed, this film made me snicker at some.
this guy turned a horror movie into a fun, lecturing, and interesting movie
"He's like a substitute Mac in this movie, so I guess that makes him a whopper."
*AND I'M NOW SUBSCRIBED.*
Can't Think AHHHHH
Aw, thanks, Dead Meat! Never gotten noticed by a great TH-camr.
Can't Think I was wondering if anyone got that joke
Honestly I’m just here for the puns
It took me a minute to get the joke
During this time Dead Meat only had 400k, look how much he's grown
dude i be seeing u everywhere 😂 anime videos, smite videos and now some movie channels lmao. i try to keep up w u 😂
I'm so proud (and slightly jealous) of him
@@WowSuchGaming It's all right Wow, you're zombie videos are still some damn good content. I hope you're enjoying your break by the way.
Yea
Look at my son. Pride is not the word I'm looking for. There is so much more inside me now
Everyone making Among Us references, but only true OGs remember the True original, Trouble in Terrorist Town.
Y e s
clue/cluedo --> mafia / werewolf --> debatably spacestation 13 --> trouble in terrorist town --> among us :) ( several more aswell :) )
@@TheRealEvades yes Clue is the true OG
Town of Salem too :´3
@@jazzspider8569 like ur own comments
This prequel literally follows the formula of Prometheus.
It's so ironic that the only guy who doesn't speak or understand English is the only survivor. If it had just been someone else they guys in the 82 movie wouldn't have died
It's because of the first movie. The surviving Norwegian is the same man who tries to warn the men in the first movie, who then gets killed because they thought he was crazy. And because he was shouting at then in Norwegian armed with an AR-15.
Ah damn it I just read your comment again, disregard.
doesnt kate survive? or am I missing something?
@@painuser100 pretty sure she freezes to death with no gas to get back.
@@sharkbrother6596 wasn't she headed to the Russian station? Or is it just something that Carter-thing made up to coax her back in the snowcat
the continuity of this movie is pretty amazing actually
I dont want to like it because the number is too perfect
As a huge fan of the original I really liked the prequel. I do think it was a huge mistake not to have practical effects, and some of the cgi was really horrible. I just really enjoyed seeing more of the story though and wasn't really bothered by it's shortcomings.
I think the thing didn't need a prequel and without the old characters the tension is not there
It’s not the original
@@WickedTester176 Refer to what James says early on in this video
They were supposed to have practical effects,but it was denied.
Cool fact: James before the kill count spins because his eyes dont have a light as a producer said that in the 82 the best way to find who is the thing is by looking at their eyes when the camera is only pointed at their face if they have light they're innocent if they dont they are the thing
"Always a bummer when you don't see the villainous character killed more explicitly."
YESSSSSSS
2:14 this man should get a raise for being able to say that
Is it possible to learn this power?
Idk how he pronounced that
Fr, impressive as hell 👍
“Wouldn’t be a Thing movie without a dead dog.”
*John Wick has joined the chat*
1203927 😂🤣😂
No, Michael Myers has joined the chat
The Thing: lol this guy finna die... wait what the fuck is this music?!
*bolt, john wick, and me with the infinity gauntlet enter the chat*
*Araki liked that*
What's sad is there were several good practial effects made and used. That were painted over with cg.
Studio interference really messed this one up. They also had more nods/references to the Carpenter one but they were cut. But people thinking it was a remake and that Kate was basically MacReady because she used the flamethrower in the trailer, and not wanting to see it, didn't help it either.
@@TheBraunMachine2011 that's so depressing. The Thing had enough of a following that it would've still made money even without the "modernization " via cgi
@@brittanyr9471 the execs excuse was that it looked too much like an 80s movie... (which was the whole point of the film, to be a faithful tribute to the original)
@@mrslinkydragon9910 that's lame.
@@brittanyr9471 i know right
I love the prequel tbh. I especially love how the ending ties up to the being of The Thing 1982.
Sees cool alien that turns into humans
Me: Among us
Yeah....that's what "prequel" means
@@Bababooey759 yeah but the way I watched the films I watched “The Thing (2011)” first, then The Thing (1982). I had no idea the 2011 one was a prequel.
I love it too. Rip jørgen langhelle
Mary Elizabeth Winsted, an actress that could have played Alita: Battle Angel without any help from CGI!
true
Not really.
Art designers: Uh yeah, we made all the practical effects, everything is good to go.
Business people: Great, we'll put CG on top of those after shooting.
Art designers: What, why?
Business people: People will love it!
*As it turns out, people didn't actually love it.*
hah, you think they told the designers or ANYONE about the last-minute CGI changes
Usually movie executives like universal, Disney, Warner etc Usually come to see whats cooking and if there's something they don't like they have the power to change certain things. Hence why alot of directors don't have a whole lot of creative freedom.
I hate it when Studio Executives do this shit. Fun fact: Did you know that Studio Executives were the ones behind Sonic's original movie design? As in, the nightmare fuel human teeth creature that got replaced by the significantly more aesthetically pleasing cartoonish design?
7:40 ah, the good old fashioned electrical kill.
Gain their trust, lead them away and go in for the kill.
Misaki From Wii LOL I tought it was cams (*aka security*)
NEVER GO TO ELECTRICAL!
Elias Fernandez MTF unless you have a task-
Then go with someone that is cleared
OMG LOOOOOOOOL
That's kinda sus.
I’m fascinated by the director of this movie. Why did he never direct anything else? This wasn’t terrible, so where he go?
Because people acted like it was terrible. It's not as good as the John Carpenter one from the 80s but it's certainly not terrible. I think a bunch of people use the CGI as a crutch to act like every part of this movie is awful
@irecordwithaphone1856 yeah the ragging on the cgi feels like groupthink to me.
I really wish he made more films, it must really suck having your legacy be a movie that not a lot of people enjoyed.
He sorta recently made a war movie for netflix, havent seen it tho
"So want do you want to watch for movie night?"
"How about The Thing?"
"Oh awesome I've got it right here!"
"No not that Thing, the OTHER Thing!"
"Which Thing?"
"The Thing that came before that Thing!"
"Oh you mean this Thing?"
"Yes, THAT thing!"
"Man. We need to stop getting our things mixed up."
Ladies and gentlemen
Abbott and Castello
ok joething
WTF
Y U getting Things mixed up over here
Which things
I hope if I go to college this conversation happens with a roommate
*Someone in real life dies in front of james*
James: I'll give it a dull machete for lamest kill.
Why does this comment have more likes then James actual comment?
*walks away after spitting on the corpse*
How dare disrespec!!!!
Juan Jerez learn how two fukcing spel yuo idoit
@@buubuu2133 yuo goot it m8 :)
HA HA HA HA HA
The worst part about the CGI in this movie is that they were originally going to use practical effects, only they replaced the effects in post because it was looking "too much like an 80s movie". >:(
little did they realize that that’s because 80s movies look better than current movies
@@pigeonboy7696 yep
Fuck.old movies are superior because of 35mm and 70mm film camera.today most movies use digicam look cheap and shakey.only good for tv series
And no one was like "Uhhhhhmmmm yeah that's kinda the point...."
hello
The Thing 2011 has its flaws but it will always hold a special place in my heart because it birthed my love of horror. When I was a kid way back in 2012, there was a shelf of DVDs in my local supermarket. Right at my eye level was a DVD release of The Thing 2011. It had an image of a man in a hooded winter coat kneeling in the snow. One hand was human, the other was a tendril-like claw. Underneath the title was the tagline “It’s Not Human…Yet”. It all sent my 8 year old mind whirring, and I couldn’t help but be captivated by it. What is “The Thing”? Why is it becoming human? What’s wrong with this guy’s hand? It all disturbed me, but it stirred an odd fascination in me. And that has remained prevalent into my adulthood. So I will always hold The Thing 2011 close for being the catalyst of my love for horror.
Yikes, as if the tagline from the 1982 movie wasn’t bad enough.
When I first watched the trailer for the “original” becuase I hadn’t actually watched it before (for some reason), as soon as the whole screen went black, silent and a basic white font read:
_Man is the warmest place to hide._
I quickly remembered why I adore it so much.
The Thing 1982: Looks genuinely creepy as hell.
The Thing 2011: Looks like a cgi monster from a Resident Evil 3 cutscene.
MutatedPixelation and that’s not creepy?
So true
The thing (1982) has to be creepy as F*ck
If you see the making of the prequel, they actually did set for having mostly practical effects and little cgi to tie the ends but due to limitations and changes forced on the team with little time led to still a decent movie that I find better than most movies especially during this time where cgi was still relatively new.
@@unitytwins6652 actually they made all practical effects and got screwed over by the studio that didn't like them so they CGI'd over it
Rather than calling this movie "The Thing", they should've called it "The Other Thing", or as a throwback to the original, "The Thing From Another Thing". Then they could have made a new one called, "And One More Thing...", and perhaps a musical adaptation called "Thingamajig".
I was thinking 'The First Thing'
and a comedy called "The Thingy"
The Thing From Before would've been a good title.
Da Ting
The ting : skraaa pa pa
9:25
"I'm gonna get killed because I floss"
Dude, I can relate to that really well lol. Anyways congratulations on 400k+ James!
Just Some Guy without a Mustache I see you everywhere
I'd rather die if I have dirty teeth
Ya me to I saw you in level up and others
Hi Just some guy with a mustache
Just Some Guy without a Mustache,just saying.
I enjoyed the prequel. Sure the CG was shaky but it was pretty good, and the way it lead into Carpenter Thing was slick.
Ikr 🎉🎉🎉
I found this channel a long time ago. It started as a casual viewing now its a constant viewing. Keep up the good work James and DeadMeat! You have never disappointed!
Same.
Darkness As Imagined Same! I love this channel!!!
Same
The Thing: *kills dog*
John Wick: Your time has come
The thing would defeat john wick.
@@kevinharkness2108 watch your words kid
@@londalonda7793 Unless he had a flamethrower, it's probably true :/
Glypharte 37 lol🤣🤣🤣
The Thing: cool, I get to assimilate a human weapon!
Mans only said Adewale's name just so he could flex on all of us that he could pronounce it, bet you a dollar
Eliza Villalpando he didn’t really pronounce it correctly😒
Was literally going to comment something like this
0:34 Oh shit, me too. I'm not really a horror movie buff, though, so the pool of horror movies I enjoy is quite small. The Thing just stands out tremendously for me, though. It's a movie that no matter how many times I watch it, I'm as gripped as the first time I saw it all those years ago.
It's an absolute masterpiece and I won't hear a word otherwise.
The Lady thing was actually a person is a costume, with some CG slapped on. Really cool.
Oh that's cool!
Kinos141
That's how most cg works
Amalgamated Dynamics had also worked on this film, but the director decided to do the shot scenes completely with CGI.
This is probably the biggest mistake the director has made with this film.
The shot scenes look fantastic, along with some complementary CGI effects, the results would have been far more impressive than the unfortunately published version.
th-cam.com/video/JyOu3j7CtoE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Kanye, very cool
Sylvia Rohge Not the director, Universal execs forced the CG and an alternative ending.
The Thing: *Makes perfect imitation*
Also the thing: *Gets the ear piercing wrong*
It was a bust either way,
It didn't know how to wind up a vehicle.
To be fair, the thing doesn’t understand the importance of those types of small details quite yet. Putting the earring on the wrong ear is a mistake it probably didn’t even consider. That’s why in the original (after the thing has more knowledge) it’s way more crafty and smart in the way it plans, sabotages and gets everyone to go crazy.
Kremit Thats because its a prequel and The Thing probably doesn’t know those small details yet. Try actually watching the movie
@@jaynyce5923 I did
The Thing: *Can't imitate metal*
Also The Thing: *Imitates metal earring*
Apparently this movie was originally done with practical effects but the studio didn't like it and forced them to go back and do it over with CGI instead. The CG was done all last minute.
Yup, you can even find videos online of the actors in the prequel next to practical effects, and images of them getting killed by the practical monster. It's disappointing that the Execs at the studio forced them to use CG because some of the effects look absolutely amazing.
And they worked so hard to replicate and give a background story to what Mac found in the first movie
Yeah they actually used practical models for almost all the thing hybrids, except the last one I think. Most of the computer stuff is extra whipping tentacles. The FX deserve more credit than they get.
I feel sorry for both of the teams. The practical affects team had thier work ripped out of the film, while the cgi team had been set up to fail due to the lack of measurements to properly design and place the cgi models. Executives should be banned from giving any input into movies, since most of them know nothing about making them.
The solution isn't as straightforward as "banning execs from giving input." No exec is going to pay for a movie that they have no control over. Terms of contract have to be negotiable.
I love to watch this film and then the 1982 film right after it! There's a smooth transition from the end scene of the prequel and the beginning of the Carpenter classic. They took such care in the details of the helicopter while it chases down the dog, one would assume they were shot at the same time. I can't say enough about the 2011 prequel. Such an under-appreciated film!
Snow cat! He’s meowing in snow
Randy Bailey WHERE
You cat to be kitten me right meow!!!
Your mom gay lol
benjamin wells ur mum gay colb(don’t worry it’s an inside joke)
Meow
Wow, I can’t wait for The Thing sequel: The Phantom Thing
Don't forget the followup, Attack of the Thing
Ash will he do it?
MEOW 154 Revenge of the Thing
Don't forget about Think 4: The Thingining
Ash
The lion thing
This has become my favorite series on TH-cam! Keep up the good work James
BlueWave same
Such a great prequel. Not perfect, but clearly made by someone who loved the original.
The ending gave me chills because I watched Carpenter's movie and I know how bad things will get.
Only problems I had with it were the cgi and the fact this movie copies many elements from the 1982 film. Also the fact the Thing was kinda stupid in this film. But when I look past those things I can still appreciate the fact the people behind this film actually WERE doing practical effects for this film but were forced to do CGI unfortunately. This could have been so much better than what we got.
I thought it was great too. Really no matter what it wouldn't have added up to the original for OG fans
I think that a reason for that "axe leaving thing" was cause it could have Thing's blood on it. So they could be infected.
Okay, yes, that's the reason, but that's not THE reason.
@Brakkk MinecraftWhich is kinda a problem with the whole franchise. Since it can simulate on a cellular level, the Thing is very stupid. Cause all it needed to do, was split, bleed, or even more subtle just put a layer of cells on every dornob. In real life situation, no one would be able to kill it. Even burning wouldn't kill it, cause it would only kill the outter cells, the inner cells would still be alive and infective. Both movies, any time they touched a thing corpse, even with gloves on, they would be infected. Anytime it bleeds, they infected. If they ever in the same area and it breaths, they are infected.
They never state if there was a limit, or anything. Both moves show it's cellular. So even the 'lamest kill' in this video, who just got impaled and bleed out? He'd eventually turn into the thing too.
@@Jirodyne in real life lure the thing in somewhere with death row people and nuke it,that would definitely kill the thing
jirodyne you could of course find something incredibly toxic or radiation and just destroy the thing on a genetic level
Brakkk Minecraft mmm for my take as in the original where one got caught cause it didn’t have enough energy fast enough, I think that overall a few cells here and there would not have the strength especially if left off from the functioning mass too long to fully infect an individual, which is why it prefers up close and personal conversion with a bigger mass or in private if it can
Sometimes simple deaths like carter or whatever his name is, getting stabbed through the chest and dieing of blood loss are a good thing for a little contrast from the crazy scenes like the ending scene with the “final form” thing being exist.
The big tower of pixels in the ship was actually to cover up the original scene: She meets a hologram of the original pilot who basically had a zoo ship. The Thing is one of it's 'exhibits' that escaped and ate everything else, including the pilot. It's how they explain the mass variety of limbs and such it's able to create as weapons/body parts/etc.
Its a crime that John Carpenter, Kurt Russell & Keith David are all still alive and we don't have a The Thing sequel.
P.S. Its time for recounts for both thing movies set with theories, behind the scenes & all the bonus stuff james provides.
Actually, John Carpenter is working on a sequel called Return of The Thing. I don’t think it’ll have MacReady or Childs in it since they both died in the end of the original.
6:39 Griggs was an impostor
7:44 Juliette was an impostor
8:06 Body reported
8:51 laboratory sabotage
10:22 Edvard was an impostor
12:37 Kate vented(for fun she not imposter)
12:57 Dr. Halvorsan was an impostor
13:50 Carter was the impostor
*Crewmates Victory*
@Paper Clip dude you’re the one being cringe
@Paper Clip are you 12 yo
@Paper Clip Cringe
@Paper Clip how much chromosomes do you have
@Paper Clip yikes ur so super cringe and look at ur profile pick so cringy
I always thought, when they were arguing about the metal fillings and some people didn't have any fillings, why not just pierce their ears and make them wear an earring? Earrings are also rejected by the Thing so it should work, if anyone's earring goes missing you know, not eveyone would have fillings but a pierced ear you can do anywhere.
I think the Thing would be smart enough to know that would be an important part of the disguise based on the assimilateds memory and just do it to itself though, I imagine it would be pretty much impossible to put fillings where the teeth are supposed to be and then form its body around them
Also, it wouldn't help to identify if someone has already been assimilated and increase the risk of exposure.
the whole metal thing was a relatively decent idea - it's just a shame the rest of the movie was a car crash in almost every way.
The Thing doesn't create the metal parts (fillings, earrings, etc.) when it creates a mimic duplicate. But there's nothing to suggest it would actively reject an earring.
@@rickdesper1474 true, if it can mimic life, why can't it mimic the holes where earrings or fillings should go?
15:20 I’m still waiting for The Thing comparison video
"I'm gonna get killed because I floss" LOL only guy without dental fillings is sarcastic too XD at least he takes care of his teeth, dental hygiene is important bro
It really sucks that they used CG instead of practical effects especially since the practical effects that were originally gonna be used looked incredible!
Griggs-Thing was the greatest tragedy unfortunately
@@keepitstraightfrrr And the pilot.
@@gsquadxz pilot?
@@keepitstraightfrrr The Alien Pilot that brought The Thing to Earth
@@gsquadxz oh yeah those effects were straight awesome as well...
The same shirt... CONTINUITY!
14:37 ohhh so that’s why they’re shooting at the dog in the beginning previous movie, and they just took the dog in not knowing what it could be, damn
While the CG wasn’t hella convincing, something about it’s liquidity and looks made it very disturbing
Its a shame tho that most of the practical effects were taken out
Joe Nelly that is true. I really liked the practical effects. They shoulda had more in the 2011
@@RubleInnawoods I think the guy who replied to you was talking about how all the effects were originally going to be practical. but the directors changed it.
CG wasnt bad at all. I enjoyed this movie a lot
First one was still better
The way you said "saboteur!" cracked me up haha
GAN0R0 ikr? Lol 😁
What minute
People don't seem to realize is it was made to look like a remake. Until the end when you find out that it's a prequel.
And it was never supposed to have any CG monsters, in fact it was made without CG. But then the studio insisted CG be inserted.
This partially true. The practical effects were filmed with the intention of supplementing them with CGI. Then it got pushed to another level and the practical effects were almost entirely replaced. I dont find the CGI in this movie to be fantastic, but they also didnt necessarily hurt the viewing experience for me. They were adequate for such a weird creature
But it so obviously a prequel what else do you think when you see they are Norwegian and find the ship and the thing
The CG only really looks bad after you see the cut practical/cg versions of some of the scenes.
Gandoan Those damn dirty studios
No.
What people don't seem to realize is that a prequel to this movie was completely unnecessary.
I feel we're glossing over points that don't matter over the ones that actually do.
I love how the Prequel manages to tie in to the Sequel with the Axe in the Wall, Colin’s frozen dead body after suicide and the 2 dudes chasing after the “Dog”
2:23 “Our substitute Mac of our movie, which I guess makes him a Whopper.”
Such a good joke.
Whopper whopper
@@ninjeb5802whopper whopper
a Windows
Pyro from tf2 would survive this
Nah fam, Scorch from Titanfall 2
@@sacabambaspisOrdovician nah bruv you're all wrong. You got to go back to the OG times. Fire protection potion and a flint and steel.
Nah, Demoman would
Nah, Pluto from Kingdom Hearts
DrD0r1anGr3y haha ikr
2:14 he nailed it at saying that name.
Adewale is low-key the coolest African name
The saddest part about this movie is that it originally WAS done with practical effects but the studio decided to go with cgi instead at the last minute so they edited over the practical effects were edited over. Studio ADI did the effects and have behind the scenes videos of their practical effects and they looked really good
1st movie: the thing
2nd movie: this thing
3rd movie: that thing
4th movie: their thing
5th movie: these thing
6th movie: those thing
7th movie: They thing
8th movie: We thing
9th movie: Your thing
10th movie: my thing
11th movie: He thing
12th movie: she thing
13th movie: its thing
14th movie: our thing
15th movie: da thing
16th movie: last thing
Reboot: The Thang
Jon Presley Reboot 2: THE THONG
And finally,
The reboot trilogy: One More Thing
@@b1ack1ce18 One more thing, Jackie!
17 movie: what thing?
I remember watching this as a kid with my parents and there wasn't three seats so we just bought 2 and I sat on my dads lap. And in the middle of the movie, his phone vibrated and I screamed.
why would any parent take a child to see this to begin with...
@@BlacKnightRising well I really liked horror movies as a kid. Still do
that's all well and good but I know I'd never take my daughter to see anything this violent as a kid, I'd just tell her, when you're older and you want to see stuff like this.....
yea those not showing emotions to this are the ones to worry about hehe
@@BlacKnightRising or it could be out of boredom. It was kinda boring when I first saw it which
I was like 10 years old?
Why was it not called "The Same Thing"?
Jezze or some thing?
Nice. Honestly, I do not know if that was a pun or not.
That would have been beautiful!
Mia Fillene being named to same thing?
@@Zane618 yep.
See... this movie is great. Or at least it would’ve been. The reason everyone hates it isn’t the fault of the studio that made it. It’s the fault of the the people just above the studio. Amalgamated Dynamics Inc. wanted to use all practical effects but the studio above them (I believe it was Universal) said they didn’t like it and completely cut the practical effects (which look amazing in behind the scenes footage by the way) in favor of terrible cgi because it looked like an 80’s movie and people wouldn’t want to see it... THATS LITERALLY WHY ADI MADE IT! ADI shot the movie with older equipment because they wanted it to seem similar to John Carpenter’s “The Thing” so that when you watch them back to back, they transition perfectly. But no instead we got shitty CG and the franchise paid for it. This is why modern Universal sucks. They want everything to be done the new way. What’s the point in trying to revive an already awesome movie if you’re gonna take over production of the sequel and make it a total shit show? 😔 this movie was almost so good. It was close to being just as good if not better than the original if it weren’t for Universal’s decision to make the effects all CGI. Hell the original ending was cooler than what we got. There was a “Pilot Ending” where Kate entered the spaceship and saw all the dead aliens that the thing killed and then she would’ve seen the Sander-Thing pretending to be one of the pilots. That thing would’ve tried to attack her just as Carter cane in and killed it to convince Kate that he was human (he wasn’t). Instead we got the “Tetris Ending where instead of the pilot we see a stupid dumbass Tetris looking hologram and then the Sander-Thing pops up and is like “hello I’m gonna kill you now. Is that cool? :D” God damn it this movie would’ve been so cool. 😭
I thought the special effects were suitably effective. I was more into the overall vibe of the movie. I remember watching a video of the 1982 fim with my girlfriend and she thought the special effects were totally unconvincing and hee hawed all the way through it!
kevin harkness well yeah they’re obviously outdated but ya gotta think about how insanely realistic that was at the time and how they didn’t have the best of effects anyway back then so there was nothing to fix that with.
i would pay 100$ if i could've had the practical effects and the old ending. i wish they can redo the old ending into like the sequel or something. but with probably more practical and a even amount of CGI
cause they could've just make this look like non-ish CGI by combining the CGI with the practical they already had.
Yo dude did you just write full essay for English class?
to much text
Friends: “c’mon let’s watch the thing.”
Me: “what thing?”
Friends: “the thing.”
Me: “okay which thing?”
Friends: The movie about the thing!!!!!!
Me: YES What thing !!!!!!?
Me Yess what thing!!!!
The word “thing” looks weird to me now
@@unpopularopinion4638 same
The og version of this movie had practical effects. It was a last minute decision to get rid of it and replace it with cgi. The practical was much better. Horrible choice.
The plot was also changed last minute too. That stupid out-of-place pixelated control system in the alien ship was CGI’d over another prosthetic alien race (not the thing) but they decided to turn the final scene into a pathetic chase. We would’ve had an additional 20~ minutes explaining the death of the guy with the earring, what happened with the spaceship crash landing, and the impact the thing had on the other alien race. The studio ended up ruining all the hard work of the prosthetics artists and script-writers just so they could add more “drama” and explosions...
It's lazy, older movies out more into making the film. Had more soul. CGI is the go to nowadays and it sucks.
Zoomerhub Not if it’s good, sometimes good cgi aren’t even noticed until it’s officiay revealed, not that there are many tho, but there still are
Zoomerhub oh really
So your saying that:
(Pirates of the Caribbean, Marvel, DC, Stranger Things, Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency, Lord of the Rings, StarWars, Doctor Who, Star Trek, Umbrella Academy, Clash of the Titans, Percy Jackson series, James Bond, Fast & the Furious, any Michael Bay movie) sucks 🤔
Just a few that come to mind
Finery Gamer Nostalgia at its peak
I thought they did the CG pretty well for the movie, really really for the twisted concept of what the thing is, captures it really well.
The thing's "true form" is the cells since it can transform into anything by absorbing an organic mass. The form at the spaceship isnt its true form
[ Madman ] good analysis of the alien organism. We really don't know the alien lifeform's true appearance or how many other creatures it encountered before coming to Earth. So, who knows. And yeah, like the Flood from Halo, all it takes is a single blood cell and boom! Everything dies.
The physical effects tell us that the alien ship was in fact of an alien species which collects lifeforms from all planets. However the Thing, which was in the collection, escaped so the alien crashed the ship on earth to prevent it from spreading. They even made an entire body for the alien but the studio decided to shit all over this movie with CGI and thoughtless action. Such a shame.
The cells were put in post production because the studio wouldn't let the film makers use their original ending.
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[ Madman ] Given that it was originally just a virus that the aliens caught, you are very right.
The worst part about this movie is that they actually DID do it all with awesome practical effects, but the studio made them replace all the effects shots with cgi before the movie got released :(
Also "substitute Mac, which I guess makes him a Whopper" is a masterclass pun dude.
Right about the practical effect replaced at the last minute by those cheap ugly CGI.
But even if only good practical effects would have been used, this movie would still be a mess: the disposable characters, the forgettable soundtrack and the fact that the Thing itself is so stupid, has no refined strategy and is not reserved when assimilating somebody (except Colin with Juliette... but even here the evidences haven't been removed by them) unlike the 1984 version.
I actually prefer the CGI effects. Not a fan of makeup.
Yea but the CGI was actually good so who cares
The f*ckin' studios today! Just. Stop. We want practical effects, guys. But if you wanna use CG, then take your time with it so it can look good
No, I want CG effects, I really don’t like makeup.
All aboard the hype train, next stop is IT 2017
GabyTheMan 1 that’s gonna be fun
GabyTheMan 1 But there's no deaths lol. I guess it will be like Krampus where he counted captures.
probably but only the lord himself Dead Meat will know
GabyTheMan 1 That's gonna be a really low kill count.
GabyTheMan 1 yes
Honestly, I would have find this movie a lot more interesting if they did like 'Us' revealing the 'main' character (Kate or I don't know, any other) was actually a Thing all the time and was just manipulating everyone in the base to complete it's goal, whatever it is. The Thing would have been more of a interesting antagonist if it had a more clear goal, it looks like is just killing everyone for funsies, which is kinda ridiculous, if it can pretend to be human, then that means it is a intelligent being, however, almost all scenes with the Thing killing someone makes it seems like it's just some clueless animal who just go for its instincts, but it's not. At the end, it actually tries to talk it's way into Kate and manipulate her, so it proves it is a conscious being, which just make the movie dumber, in my opinion.
Not everything is perfect
@EL AUTENTICO I also like other old horror movies cuz the didn't had that much of animation possibilities so they used ppl to dress as the aliens which made it more life and to my liking
"for funsies" not really. You could theorize that the thing needs fresh biomass to survive. It could also be a parasitic life form. Those do exist in real life you know.
"interesting antagonist if it had a more clear goal" It's an enigmatic alien life form that can mimic any living creature it comes in contact with. The thing is smart enough to mimic speech. Divide people and pit them against each other. The thing as a creature is so damn interesting. Plus we do know what it was trying to achieve. The thing wanted to leave earth. You might've missed that if you didn't watch John Carpenter's the thing. I am not gonna spoil what it is if you didn't watch it. I am just gonna say that it is pretty clear.
"Thing killing someone makes it seems like it's just some clueless animal who just go for its instincts" This was the Thing's first encounter with humans probably. The thing didn't know how would they react to it. It probably didn't see any threatening weapons on the humans, like claws for example, and it presumed that humans were helpless. By the end of the movie, the thing learned how cunning and effective humans can be. Which is why it had a different approach by the end.
@@mcirishmen2558 They actually had a lot of decent-looking practical effects for this movie. It was rejected and replaced with CGI later.
I completely agree. The dumbest moment has to be when she is literally alone with an assimilated Thing, and it fails to kill her. It could've literally walked up to her and started assimilating her. I hate this movie XD
Considering the shoes it had to fill, this was a solid prequel. I had low expectations for it and was pleasantly surprised.
Agree. Of course it wasn't going to be as good as the Carpenter classic. But it holds its own.
I definitely enjoyed it. It maybe slow but at the sametime don't want it rushed. But I'm not nit picky.
Wrong. It sucks. You are clueless and have no taste and no appreciation for Carpenter's film if you say the 2011 prequel is not a bad film. It *is* bad. It's garbage, really. Everything about it sucks.
@@rickdesper1474 holds its own. Yeah, like a colostomy bag.
@@NachtSchreck13 What a bizarrely cretinous and self-unaware comment to make to someone.
Many of the CGI scenes look like they could've been perfect with a little bit more budget, and y'know... less cgi lmao
"Not sure what I'd rather fight, that thing or a Velociraptor." Good question indeed. -12:00
I would fight a velociraptor
I would fight/hide from a velociraptor in a heart beat...
Velociraptor. If I get to choose the weapons, the raptor is an easy kill. Even if it's a buffed raptor from any of the Jurassic Park movies.
Now a velociraptor with a Xenomorph chestburster is a different story...
G. W. Lol imagine if you would get a choice between who you would rather fight I’d rather fight the Dino for sure
This video was made 4 years ago today happy birthday James
What disturbed me the most is that Halvorson is Danish, seen him in many danish movies so it was really weird to see him in this haha
Jeg er dansk!