The Huawei ban explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- Everything we know about the devastating ban on Huawei by the US government and its implications.
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Spying on people?
How.... DARE they!!!
That's OUR job!
/Regards Google
It wasn't Google's decision...
Spying is the NSA's job.
@@ErebosGR It was their decision too, they could have said no and moved their services to a country that supports the freedom of their citizens.
@@mmmbrunommm3 It was a decision of the US Commerce department to blacklist Huawei and 70 of its affiliates from the US market, plus an executive order prohibiting any US company from supplying Huawei with technologies, services or products.
If you think a company the size of Google can up and leave like that, you're naive.
SpyWei is the biggest spy company'
@@ErebosGR I was talking about their decision to allow spying on their customers.
Now, about the decisions you're talking, that was just market protection, it's clear the Chinese are well into their way of becoming the leading company in 5G. So the US government is working against them, doing what competition and free market should have done. This isn't about security.
Ironically i got a p30 pro ad while watching this
I bought a p30 just a week ago and I'm in the us. Let's hope this gets resolved or this may be a waste of $600
@@noelmedina6925 even if not its alright.. You don't necessarily need to have the latest software... I'm still running on android 5 on my primary phone... Good enough for almost all every day tasks.
Noel Medina the ban got reversed
@@noelmedina6925 don't worry, Huawei won't let you down, they do very very much for their customer-company relation, they will provide updates
@@noelmedina6925 it wont be a waste of money. Huawei usually give updates for longer than most companies. Even many 2 year old mid range phones were about to get android 9.1 just before the ban was announced
Why open source is important? Well for one thing, this. We might be all nice and cozy in our google-bubble, and face no problems, but we can't outrun how weak individual companies can be. Strong open source projects (like android) are a general solution, which can't be undone by goverment or a single company.
That's why we need an open source alternatives for microsoft and google, these companies are too important to us.
Hope Huawei will start making the BEST Linux Laptops of all time :D
Android isn't as open source like it used to be
deviceatlas.com/blog/android-forks-why-google-can-rest-easy-for-now
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
@@SebastianHaban What do laptops have to do with this?
@abbiekitten[13% 52%] , sideloads, he stated though that apps may not work esp for apps that rely in G.services even if not coming from playstore
@abbiekitten[13% 52%]
F-droid is better than playstore?
wtf, there is like 15 in that store, and the UI is horrible too..
Huawei and GNU/Linux are both needing an experienced dance partner in the mobile ballroom...
Yes finally an fully explain video about this whole hellhole .
"A fully explained"
This shit is messed up. The US should remove Trump
I wonder what will happen to the xiaomi company since they are both from china. I hope they will not end up in the same fate as huawei.
RT's Rick Shanchez had an unwatchable, horribly incompetent report. TechAltar for a big win
@@wesleysavage444 yes chinese fascism ftw
1) About network security, US concern is justifiable but any networking equipment manufacturers can potentially do the acts that HW is accused of.
2) EU and non-US companies should be wary of US from now. They need to quickly independent from US hardware and software techs. If not, Trump or any future US presidents can simply do a “Huawei” on them and held hostage by US.
This is my perspective as a US citizen. The problem with HW specifically is that they are China-based company. If the Chinese government was to come to them and order them to do something, then they would have to do it just stay in business in China. Since China on the whole is still very communist, the concern is that they might ask [insert company here] to leverage their influence to spy on the US, or compromise our political process.
All that being said, it sounds reasonable to assume that President Trump is using this as leverage against the Chinese in the trade conflict. Obviously, that’s pretty darn unethical.
@@connormccloy9399 China is already for few decades more capitalistic than USA.
@@connormccloy9399 One correction I would respectfully add is that China today is by no means "communist" (well, that if your understanding of "communism" is economically defined, then no, China is not communist).
I was referring to the political and economic institutions of China together, but it is true that there are some capitalist elements in the economy of China today.
@@connormccloy9399 That's not unethical for geopolitics, ethics don't exist when it comes to nation-state conflict because each is going to prioritize their citizens over the other's. It's just a matter of perspective, but I'd much rather we use every bit of leverage we can to force China back in line. People forget that China pulled this same shit on western companies probably thousands of times, for the longest time they wouldn't let Google into China unless they put Chinese spyware into their products. China didn't suddenly gain the knowledge to produce network equipment and phones by chance, they stole that information through a variety of methods from outright espionage to forcing companies to disclose Intellectual property to do business in China. China has forced established companies out of the country and then turned around and used those factories to produce the same product under their own brand name. They subsidize shipping costs so Chinese goods out-compete everyone else, they slap massive tariffs on western goods, they outright prohibit many products from entering China to protect domestic producers, they have been doing the same and worse as Trump for over a decade and now people act like we're the bad guys for responding. Fuck that, everyone needs to stand up to China right now while we still can or we will be economically steamrolled within just a few more decades.
Huawei has had its own app store for years, but all apps were in Chinese. I've used a mate 8 for a year back in 2017.
Cesar Mufunga not just in Chinese language but intended only for Chinese and its culture. So to defend them for having its own AppStore isn’t gonna help ppl outside China since its services doesn’t comply to our demand.
@@CC-tk9xw I was just laying down the facts i knew that were not mentioned in the vodeo. I have no reason to defend or hate on Huawei, this is a mess i can not stick my hands in.
the video mentions it at 3:00 mark
Watching this after "CHINA’s strategy to DEFEAT the DOLLAR"
Is this comedy movie?
@@VH-eq2ci Just some random visualpolitiks video
China is not the only one.
China
Russia
Iran
irak
Syria
and even saudi arabia
all countries that want to ditch the dollar. and its going to happen soon as well. china is already trading their oil in euros and their own currency. america is a literal joke.
@@user-ch9my3to6j they already doing that. dollar is not worth much anymore
www.rt.com/business/444712-russia-china-dollar-sanctions/
they are ditching the dollar pretty much. it takes some time but they are ditching it. lots of middle eastern countries are doing it
www.rt.com/business/447915-top-states-ditching-dollar/
@@user-ch9my3to6j He seems to forget European Union.
Finally a video about this issue from someone that knows what he's talking about! Great job as always :)
Ahmed Aly bullshit....it’s about China respecting intellectual property and stopping their state-run capitalism model.
@@dccurlybro Aaaaand we're back to 'I don't know what I'm talking about'.
@@Jonifico hahaha
@@dccurlybro Aren't US the largest date theft of the globe
Ahmed Aly I left unboxing therapy a few hours ago he’s struggling with this topic someone link him to this video please
If Huawei somehow managed to survive through all of this, they will become the most powerful Chinese tech company ever.
I pray and hope they do
Inside China.
Wishful thinking
Yep
Realistically, Huawei outside China is done. Outside techy bubble from which most of people watching this, people don't any details as to what happens. All they know is that you can't watch TH-cam on Huawei...that's enough to cross it out the moment they hear it.
Great video and also pretty cool new music.
Hey can I add Spanish captions to your video? I'd love to share it to some of my friends that don't speak English
Plagiarism is the reason why US is after China. LoL
@@weaksupremacy3799... Wtf? Did I say anything about the fucking US or stupid China?
Hey, I requested him to write Hindi captions for my friends who don't know English. But he didn't read my comment. :(
go off sis
Huawei is the biggest producer of networking equipment in the world, if i remember correctly. Most people know them because of the phones, but networking is where they are way bigger. My point is that the telecom sales ban will probably hurt them a lot more than the android one.
The android problem is talked about more, because most people have seen Huawei as a phone manufacturer and have no idea they make a lot of networking equipment.
That includes networking gear mate. It mentions Huawei the company.
@@marktrinidad7650 Yes it does, but every news outlet is focused on the phone aspect of it. And while that is important, the networking one is much more impactful for Huawei and every country that uses its networking gear. That is more than half of the world basically.
The ban is directly related to the network architecture. The reason they dont talk about it is because some people start thinking and realize that the US is lagging behind and needed to pull a hard stop on the competition. USA as a country if it can't compete, it bullies and plays unfairly.
@@Neanderthal75 Oh yeah, you are totally correct on that one, no question there. That is why everyone should be talking about it!
I guess networking equipment is just one of those things that people dont see every day (or ever for most people), and they do see phones every day, so that is why they focus on that one? I'm just speculating here.
finally! a youtuber with actual knowledge with a 10 mins video on this topic! keep up the good work! :)
But you wont be able to use TH-cam if you the upcoming Huawei phone
@@uberrrmensch just side load the apk
@Feel good Inc. Yup. Each chinese company has a communist party department. Their government can directly control companies if they want to, it is in their law.
Rashed Mahmud Olive you don’t actually need something like google play to download things, just side load the apk
Yes, the knowledge that people would trust china more than us companies because of "Drumph".
It's just pure derangement, people strangely proud of thinking within the box.
I've been using a ZTE phone for 3 years and never knew it was even banned, lol.
@Feel good Inc. China has unlimited resources? I'm moving.
@Feel good Inc. Funny guy. I haven't seen any proof yet that huawei is being sponsored by Chinese government. And from other side google, apple, microsoft, amazon and all other big US companies are officially selling data to CIA and not only that, they're being sponsored by government by tax cuts. For example Amazon payed nothing last year in taxes while my small internet store has to pay tens of thousands of dollars in taxes. So how I'm supposed to compete against amazon then?
@Feel good Inc. Secret gov operations are more of a Western thing, you know, for your own protection. You seem very "protected" and naive about your own country.
Both are spyware, it wont affect us common user.
@@toms8812 It is very well known China backs its businesses and really supports the ones that do their bidding. Amazon employs thousands of people hence the tax cuts. Yes it is hard to compete but even without tax cuts people will shop online for convenience even if the prices are comparable and most of the time they are.
Saw the same titled MKBHD video but I clicked on ur video first !
Clicked mkbhd first then click this video to get straight to the point.
You click on mark ass brownlee when you want pretty colors and little substance.
TechAltar is more knowledgeable in this.
Well done. Want a medal?
Thank you for being so quick to upload this video regarding the ban. Was really hoping you would and you did! Thanks again!
I guess Russia should be expecting a flood of cheap Huawei phones with Yandex onboard as an alternative to Google services
Funnyg given that Yandex is one of the most reliable chromium browsers out there
@Feel good Inc. why wouldn't it?
@Feel good Inc. Pretty sure, because China is the closest allies they have.
@@Soras_ economic partners at best I would say. Russia has other friends, such as Belarus, Syria and Iran.
@@Sundara229 they exercise militariy together and they against US.
Otherwise known as blackmail...
Well to be honest almost all international politics boil down to blackmail, fraud, conspiracy, and bribery (forgot threatening). And the reason is simply they work and most alternatives do not or at the bear minimum are far far less effective.
@@areskrieger5890 I guess you can add kidnapping too, which in all honesty was started by the US. China seems to be big on tit for tat, every time the US does something China returns the favour. At least China has contingency plans, the US didn't, thats why the US had to reverse the ban for 90 days because they have no contingency plans or anything in place. At present this IS a cold war and the US is loosing it quite badly.
@@Dazzxp China has the US by the balls and Trump is getting nervous XD
Xi jinping just blackmailed the us with rear earth materials ban ...it will cause us economy to crash
@@suukinsin6771 Tit for tat, you ban something in China and they do the same, but unlike technology rare earth is difficult to get hold of. lol
would like to see more on this topic. :)
I feel that this is the beginning of the end of the US monopoly in smartphone and OS fields. Everyone is going to be careful dealing with them going forward.
Either way how the situation goes, it really will make many foreign companies be more-careful in terms of both trading sums of components or resources to the US and also the relevance of their Tech in the US market and whether they comply with US law and not just US law, but how the higher-ups in the US think.
US monopoly in smartphones? Last time i checked Samsung isn't a US company.
The best breakdown and explanation yet!
So true. There's nothing more American. If you can't win honestly, ban them on a ridiculous excuse.
Danny Winget ----- You're right, well explained. One key is what happened to ZTE. Trump banned them, and then a few days later allowed them to sell in the US. This smacks of bribery, with Trump or his son-in-law receiving a bribe. Trump is President to make money for Trump. Anyone who thinks Trump really cares about US national security is naive. He's already lifted the ban for a few months and if Huawei comes through with money for Trump, they will be allowed to do business in the US.
Danny Winget Trump is so paranoid on huawei. He should stop creating chaos and crisis around the world!
@666NedFlanders 😂😂 not "the one in the same"
Actual saying is "The one and the same"
Great Video Marton. Have not watched anyones else video so long , but yours until the end :)
aww, thanks :P
Agreed
Just watched your video about huawei
Dose all of this effect other sub brands like honor phones etc.
Hey @TechMagnet is the honor phone gonna be affected to?
Clear, concise, insightful. Another great video. Thanks TechAltar!
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The moment I read the news, I was like "Okay Tech Altar tomorrow for dinner"
That boi great
This is what Tech Youtubing should be. (At least for me)
Keep up TA!
PS
Can bear with the face.
Phew, I was worried people would riot about all the face time :P
@@TechAltar Haha! Hell no.
What is the purpose of a beautiful/handsome face on YT without the content. This ain't no beauty competition!
I recently came upon the channel, now I'm a big fan. Keep it up.
@@AutoKay dont insult my man Marton like that! I think he is beautiful
@@mexibobor He is indeed!
I'd far prefer removing animation if it meant double the videos in the same amount of time.
What will happen to the existing Huawei phones? Will it still function well?
I got to say this is the best breakdown and explanation yet without getting into very political.
This is either dishonest or lacking basic knowledge about the tech industry. He simply doesn't understand how the world business and technological ecology is managed [by the Americans]. This isn't about app stores or today's microprocessors. Control of the tech industry is based on "core technologies" which is why other companies such as ARM and Panasonic have The Americans develop the tools and core technologies of all these countries - including China. It's about "tomorrow's processors" and core technologies.
That's why ARM and Panasonic have no choice but to fall in line. If the UK or Japan challenge the Americans, the Americans will cut off technology transfers to them, and their tech sectors fall behind (ie they suffer the same "Death sentence" as Huawei).
ARM and Panasonic don't "Design" the next generation so much as they use the tools and processes to "localize" US technology. It is one thing to use a template and design software to model a distributed element design for a fabless company. But guess who designs that software? What happens if the Americans - who design that software - develop new software incorporating sub-nm (picometer) technology nodes? It's already happened in fact. That Berkley Lab stunt was conducted by a washout of the US industry - it's common in US R&D for the creme of the crop to advance within the US heirarchy, while the burnouts are sent to college labs to develop graduates. Translation: the Berkley lab "amateurs" merely demonstrated a technology that already outstrips even the most advanced node available in China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Germany, etc. They know that these are mere "student amateurs", and that the novices who are still in the industrial labs and R&D - not college labs. Some often become entrepreneurs and create their own companies. Regardless, all of this is under the oversight of various American departments from DOE to DOD. Eventually, the fabrication processes and machinery from the American industry (because the real pure-fucking-magic is being able to manufacture these "devices" in the billions - and now, trillions - per die consistently and efficiently over millions of units) will be contracted out to their subsidiaries in Taiwan and South Korea - and they will make their own "tweaks" to further develop this core technology - because that is what TSMC and Samsung are - large foundries and localization mills.
ARM's and Panasonic's technology (and therefore Huawei) IS ALREADY OBSOLETE. They were obsolete even before the rollout of "5G" - laser-technology, node fabrication per die, core instruction, material engineering, network system security, etc - all of it is "US origin". The Americans have NEVER been stupid enough to give Japan and the UK (which they knew would simply be given to the Chinese) a rung on the ladder without already having scaled two or three rungs higher. It's the same with their military; by the time people see the stealth bomber's public unveiling, the Americans have already secretly developed their GCCS ATC for unmanned aerial vehicles and e-bombs and direct-energy systems. So on and so forth.
Remember NEC? "The most powerful semiconductor monopoly in the world"? The Japanese were acting in 1986 like the Chinese are now - claiming they could dictate geopolitical affairs to America, Akio Morita claiming "The Japan that can say 'No'". So what happened? Intel, IBM, Cray, Motorola, Micron, etc, denied their technology to NEC - and went to South Korea and Taiwan and said "Do you want Japan's job" for their next generation? We all know the two biggest companies they contracted to, right? TSMC and Samsung. Within 5 years, NEC's volume collapses by 70%. Japan INC is finished. Incidentally, Motorola focused on shifting its contracts to China - and got taken for all it's worth. Neither South Korea nor Taiwan (nor recently Japan) has dared to transfer THEIR technology to China either - they know their only negotiating leverage is their access to America ...and if Americans suspect that they are selling out, the Americans will fire Samsung and TSMC just like they did NEC. Huawei and DTE are - in fact - less powerful than NEC was in 1986. They are finished. Even if the PRC tries to prop up both (jsut as Japan's treasury and MITI tried to prop up NEC), it will never be able to out-innovate the American technology sector. If TSMC or Samsung were ever to buck the Americans, the Americans among Applied Materials, IBM, Micron, etc, would simply do to Samsung and TSMC what their predescessors did to NEC.
Buck the Americans, and you better be prepared to out-innovate them in a tech war.
The Soviet Union tried to compete in the 60s and the 80s, losing badly the first time, dying the second time. The Japanese and many others tried this....they've all never tried a second time. I anticipate China will be given a second chance after this dust-up. After a second infraction, they'll be given a technological Death Sentence on the order of Iran or Russia - sure, they can "survive", but in technologically stunted state.
China is a continuation of the old "Asia co-Prosperity Sphere". And like a retread of the Pan-Asian ideal, it will fall behind the Americans just as its predecessor fell behind in the 1930s - while the Japanese-led Pan-Asians were busy copying British and German technology, the Americans developed the world's first semiconductors, the first practical robots, the first Control and stability analysis which gave birth to modern and systems engineering, the first modern programming languages, etc.... long before the attacked Pearl Harbor. The People's republic of "China" finished what the Japanese sought to achieve - an Asian superstate built on the ashes of a once separate Orient (much as the EU is trying to suborn individual cultures to create a superstate). In 1973, this "China" changed sides to become a vassal state of America, with America dumping 80 million metric tons of food in East Asia (crashing the price of food in the region and stopping China's famines) while making a security and food deal with the Muslims to supply China with enough oil (America was already supplying itself, Japan, South korea, Taiwan, etc with oil and didn't have enough output to supply a vassal state as big as China). It had to expand the money supply by taking the dollar off the gold standard to finance all this.
So the Chinese have had it good....maybe too good.
And now that China's gotten too big for its britches, it needs to be taken down a peg.
The Americans won't starve China the same way it didn't starve Germany, Japan, Israel, etc, because this isn't personal.
It's Business.
But if China doesn't back down, America will eventually stop all trade and give China's jobs to someone else - India, Myanmar, Bangledesh, Indonesia, Brazil, including all the current vassal states from Taiwan to Australia wants those jobs). If the US wants to make the pain more acute (not necessary, but just out of spite), Trump can cancel all of China's US treasuries (they're all serialized for a reason) with stroke of his pen, or blockade China's oil in the Indian Ocean with the US Navy, or simply humiliate China internally by building an embassy in Taiwan....the first option itself will kill China's economy, the second will be just a threat in case the Muslims think they don't want to play ball (they will, and so oil will continue to flow to Japan and Europe, while China joins Iran in threatening to blow up the tankers), the third will simply be a matter of playing China's "face-games" against itself.
@@Terrekain Okay may be most TH-camrs and viewers have no clue how the world business and technological ecology *managed by the west and east*, not one single one video on youtube right now contains 100% correct content. But, Mind you, all of this is based on Trump and His team CLAIMED that China is Controlling Huawei, or has a concern that Huawei will be forced to disclose any info stored in their company's database, the point is some way in US, National Securities can manage to track and trace any Americans. This topic gets politically very fast and it IS political. Facts remain is US still had not disclosed to the public one solid fact that Huawei Equipment had been used to tap into data or any spy action. This is making people thinking just a tactic play by Trump to get a better deal form China on the Trade War that is going on right now. It is not looking good for either side right now.
First of many tech TH-camrs who can correctly pronounce the word “HUAwei”...
Because he can speak Mandarin.
Exactly! It is not hard to pronounce... Others are pronouncing wuawei... 😂 😂
You should mention that this is also war about 5G network equipment. You kinda did, but should be more precise.
It's not really about 5G specifically though, it's about blocking _any_ new network equipment installations from Chinese companies whether it is 5G or not.
@Inked Sleeve
You *do* realize that many sophisticated hackers, plus _any_ motivated Corporation or Government can _remotely_ hack into _any_ Android phone Edit: [worldwide, even with the power off but battery still installed]?
And iOS is demonstrably hackable hands-on?
Korakys Yes you are right. But now 5G is in game and it’s great amount of money that is going in infrastructure all over the world. That is the reason why I mentioned 5G specifically.
Inked Sleeve @Korakys and I was talking about economics war not who is better China or America.
Inked Sleeve But since you want to talk about spying I have question for you. You know that USA government is spying whole world over Google and Apple Service, using whole internet, and you know that all big USA tech companies are working with US army including mobile operators. Sooooooo... my question to you is do you understand what am I talking about or I need to elaborate?
You have to know that I am not into China or USA so I don’t cheer for neither country. I do only care about tech and for people that are enjoying in that tech.
As some others have commented. We, the EU citizens have to be fully aware when it comes to the economic "policies" of the United States. We have to understand, that in some manner, we are subject to blackmail, spying and massive compromise to appease our "ally".
Europe is not an equal ally to the US, because Europe is controlled by it. I think Europe is more like a subordinate of the US.
Semi-conductor companies might get affected of this ban.
As an old guy (45), I remember how when the internet started everything was fragmented. Then after two decades everthing was monopolized by a few giants. And as a European it felt almost embarrasing that all the unicorns were from the US. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems to me that this is a good oppertuneity to start new tech European companies that represent European values - ECOSIA for example. Why not make a "non-profit Facebook" while we are at it?
Man if Huawei would give access to the bootloader unlock service there would be no problem
No, they'd be DOOMED pretty much anywhere anyway. Because as a viewer of this channel, you are propably more into tech and installing the play services would be easy as pie.
But the vast majority of people is tech wise is as dumb as they could humanly possible be. Wich means: Nobody except for Tech people would still buy their phones. And we are in an absolute minority.
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 yeah but it would still give us (the tech people) the ability to install the play services. Better than giving noone the ability to do that
@@bspringer Yes, but then on the other hand, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to sell those phones anywhere outside of China. Because exporting phones is kinda cost intensive. And since only tech people MIGHT buy em, it simply wouldn't be worth it at all.
We will flash GApps...
LineageOS was a reality but Huawei said no.
Now Huawei is fucked.
Was very much eager to hear from you about the aftermath of the announcement. Thank you for being not any late
Does this ban affect my Soulja phone??
But today they are launching honor 20. It would be great to see what they say at their launch
They delayed it
@@wilkinlow As far as I know, they haven't. Launch is about to start in about 40 minutes.
@@vnkt_yt The honor 20 launch? It's probably gonna live stream on youtube
@@kartikaykumar awsome
@@kartikaykumar I'm from Malaysia. They delayed it tho
It really sucks, Huawei pushed boundaries, they have conferences for students in 3rd would countries like mine and honestly apart from their China communist origins, which I don't think stands for much, they really seem to be an awesome company that's always on the forefront
You are incredibly naive. The Chinese government will see the world burn if they become more powerful than the U.S. They want to take Hong Kong by force, despite the Hong Kong people hating them. They want to take Taiwan, despite the Taiwanese resistance to never join the Chinese. They threatens Japan and constantly trying to undermine the Japanese. They took over the Eastern sea despite the sea belonging to other countries as well.
They are the worst government on Earth, much worse than the Russians.
@@caesar9708 Worse than korea? I didnt think that was possible.
Also I try not to believe everything the media feeds you, just as the chinese manipulates their media and monitors their people, the US does too. Every country (I would hope) has it's own interests at heart. Don't forget how much the US f'd over Iran syria, and tries to say it's the people that were inherently corrupt.
Also if you're looking for another government worse than china try Venezuela.
You do realise that China has imposed social credit scores on its own people? they're a TOTALITARIAN REGIME.
@@rof8200 Its perfect.
@@caesar9708 Hong Kong has always been part of China. We leased it to U.K. Now it returns. Taiwan issue is arguable, depends on how you view Republuc of China and People republic of China, which both claimed to be China. And as of Japan, a country that invaded China and eventually got fucked by U.S. nuclear bomb, they deserve it.
so how google lock them out, will it block out huaweis device id? can you emulate somehow different device id?
now *THATS* some fRIcking _RESEARCH_
Taking hostages, embargoing trades, imposing tariffs...are we talking about the president of the United States or Jack Sparrow?
Its trump regime
Trump the KKK/NeoNazi/White supremacists.
Trump is basically mirroring what China does to US corporations, but to a lesser degree. If he wanted the full Monte, he'd get Chinese businesses to have a board with members of his party, and require Chinese businesses to share their tech and patents in order to operate in the US.
The US trade deficit with China is no joke and something needs to be done about it. I can't say that Orange man's policies will turn out to be the best, but they are something at least.
Also, the banning from infrastructure makes sense. The potential damage an adversarial government can do to infrastructure if relations degrade is immesurable.
@@OutOfNamesToChoose Thank you, everybody is having this knee-jerk "Trump bad" reaction while even the NYT and CNN have been writing articles about China's abuse of the global free market. People don't seem to understand how different China operates, and I don't understand how they can defend them when they've got over a million ethnic minorities in "reeducation" camps just because they're not Han Chinese. It's the world's biggest Apartied state and yet they claim America is run by Nazis, give me a break, go to North Western China if you want to see racial oppression and genocide for real.
I just bought P30 and I will never change my mind.
Sell it while the price doesn't drop that much. And buy a similiar phone. You will regret in the future if this war goes wrong.
@Eric Piekkola we have APKs mate
buyers remorse
I think Huawei will solve the problem of subsequent use. After all, Huawei has half of its market share outside China
@Eric Piekkola You could install Lineage OS with Google apps.
I recently purchased a Huawei matebook x pro and am now not sure if I should return it, after hearing about this ban. I really do love this computer but if the ban interferes with windows I'd probably have to return it. Can anyone please give me some advice on what to do?
The best summary of the current situation. Genuinely becoming one of the best tech you-tubers out there.
I was waiting for your take of this topic ❤️
Me too
Me too :)
same
the fact is US has done that before (taking hostages) not just only to China, but also to many of its "allies" like Japan and France.
EVERY country imposes trade bans/embargoes.
@@touchnova not all (if not very few) countries can arrest forigen entrepreneurs on foreign soil then threaten their company for cooperation.
What if I download my desired apps through the developers main page.....Will whatsapp, Gmail, TH-cam? Will the apk files nt be compatible anymore?
The lesson for the world-wide commercial businesses: Avoid US parts, software or services at all costs, supply is unreliable!
Bert Nijhof that’s kind of impossible when it comes to smartphones
@@shanep.7184 Well if that is true, it will be more urgent. With Führer Trump and the fascist Republican party run and avoid the USA at all costs.
@@bertnijhof5413 "Avoid US Parts, OS and Services at all cost" is Easier said than Done. It's nearly IMPOSSIBLE for your smartphone to work without those. How are you going to sell your smartphone w/o US parts???
It's like saying Car makers should stop using engines and motors on their cars when making a Car.
@@Racko. Buy Huawei or Samsung. Samsung has their own processor
Bert Nijhof What about the operating system it runs? Android. SD card, and other major components are From the US. Android is also from the US. If Samsung avoided Android they will sell Zero phones. Processor isn’t enough to encourage ppl to buy a phone
Top notch quality content all the time. Thank you
French Fries i hate notches, especially top ones :)
dude change your phone, then it'll be full view quality content👍
smilingface2006 I recommend the 1+ 7 pro 12 year old
Trump: I am going to end this man's whole career
Trump*
@@linuxland Thanks man
Google has their hands tied, honestly Google would love the business, but trump thinks otherwise.
@Crazy MOFO stress causes cancer.
so smart you are right?
gotta love those smug npc answers.
@@omgwtfbbqstfu Tbh ive never heard that. Stress can cause cardiovascular health issues, but cancer?
Hi everyone! Please help me out here, I have some trouble understanding.
I have a Huawei Mate 20 phone and a Matebook 13. Will my devices keep working with the current software, but without updates?
What are they going to do, catch fire and blow up at night?
Even if you will one day lose functionality of Google's geolocation services and PlayMarket (which I think Google will try to work around as much as possible so as not to piss their existing customers, because it's their part of ToS too), none of Google's services are irreplaceable.
Google says all their existing customers with Huawei devices will keep access to the GP services.
When people become dependent of on free system like Android, it happens. There must be always alternative operative systems to use.
Very well researched and brought to the point. BTW - While I very much appreciate the fancy animations, this type of video is great for a news format you could be doing :) Thank You!
Good time to release a OS
abhi abhi Looking for sailfish os (by jolla) to appear on huawei phone
abhi abhi yes
I still dream of a resurrected WebOS😉
But what is happen for the phones that already exist like the "old" mate 20 pro? Will it still have google and gmail, and is it just the future phones that will not have google?
The old Mate 20 pro can still use gmail and other google apps. But it will not get any more google security updates or OS updates. Also future phones will not be about to install google apps.
Is there any problems if we install Google App Store in Chinese version of Huawei phone?
*Clicked the video*
*Huawei Ad pop-up*
DAMN...
Edit: thanks for 103 likes!
Google is watching you!
WAHAHAHA
@Michael G p30 proook
I agree... I really wish that more variety of smartphone OS. I like the way when there's a windows phone and blackberry OS
xD good joke, man made me chuckle
Let's hope that Huawei will make something new out of this situation,
A new OS
@@markustampubolon8651 Absolutely, I still remember those days when we've Windows, Symbian, blackberry & Bada, etc...
Aditya Tiwari I wouldn’t use a Huawei OS because it’s literally selling data to Chinese government but I would love a new OS for real. I wish Sailfish was more intuitive & successful and wished Windows had a comeback because the tiles layout were 💜
I have a mate8, so basically feature updates is not my concern because huawei already stopped feature updating my phone.
Currently my apps are still updating, including gmail. My question is how long will i able to get updates on my apps? :(
Should I still buy a Huawei Matebook X Pro?
America: freedom and free market rules ah yes
also America:
China banned Google, banned Amazon and has pretty much huge tariffs on everything. They ban everything, copy it 100%, put another name on it and sell it as their own. So... you're wrong, big time.
@@lucioinnocenzo2328 Are you kidding? Google made their own decision to leave China, and who banned Amazon? where is the source?
@@lucioinnocenzo2328 Only reason for these restrictions is that they don't want to allow American sewer mindset, propaganda and bigotry to flood into their country. Simple guy
This is from my understanding of the issue (as an american). Chinese companies have unfair advantages under China's membership to the WTO. Many of them are subsidized, propped up, or aided by the state in ways that give them huge competitive advantages over companies abroad. Many of their companies are essentially huge state monopolies that undercut competition. This is besides their coercion or forced ownership over companies and their products that want to do business in the country, and their stealing of intellectual property. In order to make the market more fair for everyone, they have to (in the view of trump and many americans) play by the same rules as everybody else.
Also, in response to the other comments on this one: China's firewall blocks many foreign websites, like google, amazon, etc. You literally cannot access them in China without a VPN.
A free market does not mean NO rules. It means fair rules that promote competition.
The US is not perfect and this is all a little too much in my opinion, but there are legit concerns. It isn't trump just being angry and pressing buttons, there is real economic reasons behind all of this. I disagree with trump on nearly everything, but something had to be done in this case. Maybe this is not the right way to do it, but it is all allowed under the WTO I guess.
They don't want to allow bigotry? Tell that to the Uighur or the victims at Tiananmen Square. China is not a country that places human rights high on their list of priorities. I will concede that they are concerned about our "sewer mindset". Our culture has "progressed" to the point of debauchery to a lot of eastern cultures.
Bottom line is that China is immensely powerful and motivated, more than willing to justify their means to achieve their success, and have a well established history of subversive tactics. We can not underestimate potential security risks from them.
Great music ! And you are the best tech TH-camr for tackle this subject. Thx
you could get the UBUNTU OS if they want to use that instead of Android
I think the other biggest issue apart from Google services is losing access to ARM licensed technologies but I would like more info on that.
If bootloader codes were available again, custom ROMs could be a loophole. As of right now, that's not the case.
American logic: If we can't spy on them, might as well ban them.
Edit: Oh and reliable source for apps is uptodown. They have provided me for a while, and I have no issues with them.
But the custom roms are needed to be compatible with the Huawei phone kernal and internals which will probably be on a ban list automatically on Google services
America: we've had our global spying network uncovered, better shift attention to another country's spying to make sure be maintain the illusion of freedom and security!
This is about China's potential to spy on the US and other countries, not the other way around. That assertion by the US govt has been in place for almost a decade. But I like what you did there, flipping the primary argument in the name of edgy-anti.
@@turbochargedshower4488 You have a good point there. But this would a good step in right direction. We have seen community do some amazing stuff with phones through out years. I would definitely say it could be possible to mask the device, in order to pass through the security checks.
It's not ideal by any means, however it would give a loophole for existing users.
@@touchnova No I wasn't doing that. I was just talking about current possible solutions, for Huawei and Honor users.
US did a disgusting move, because they always wanted and are wanting to monopolize on everything. Smaller countries have to deal with this stuff on daily basis.
And if we talk security, last time I saw Google, Facebook and even Microsoft were paying fees for braking rules. They are always collecting data.
China always had it's problems with government control, but those problems didn't affect world wide users. Usually all of their issues stay in their country.
There's no perfect country on this planet, and we have to work together if we want a better place for everyone.
I look forward to the next geeky video
What a clear and understandable explanation sir.
Loved your channel.
Thank you.
I repeat sir, Thank you.
how about the existing huawei phone user? what will happen bcs i use my huawei Y9 2019
Techaltar : It is entirely possible
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Joe rogan : Have you tried DMT
Gin Saitama ?????????
@@yourmomsasshole7301 its a jre podcast reference
We look forward that video you mentioned, but I guess this Cold Tech War deserves, say, a weekly podcast or QA by itself. So many questions!
Not the Cold Tech War, but effectively the Second World Cold War with US vs China and EU act as the Non-allgned movement
What if I install custom rom? Will it work including Google services?
Not right off the bat no, as to use google services your device must be certified... but you can use an emulator to do that, spoof your device as a Samsung one instead.
I was interested in getting the Matebook X Pro. Should I bail? How does the ban affect Huawei's laptops and will there be future issues to come that make it not worth taking the risk?
After all this commotion since yesterday, I've been waiting for your video for clarity. Thanks man!! 👍
what clarity, its just bugman triggering. He talks about "rule of law" and china in the same sentence without any sense of self awareness.
Best breakdown of this horrible situation yet. Excellent work Sir!
I've never seen Huawei send out a single update anyway!
literally got an update today
Apple just had a privacy leak and WhatsApp is in talks of removing it's 128bit encryption also Nokia (not American i know had a leak where it sent data to China) yeah you're data is not safe. It never was
ET is wrong, the forums show it too. Far more updates than Samsung in fact
Does The Huawei Devices will get cheaper.
Most likely no because if the ban remains and becomes permanent Huawei will have to develop its operative system and ecosystem ,manage it, provide services and updates which will cost money on Huawei's part and to meet these demands Huawei will have to increase price of their products like Apple does although they cost way more than they should... But alas
@@sahildharwani3784
That was quite an insidious way to punish Huawei, because now H is at a competetive disadvantage with other Chinese manufacturers, who are not under sanctions. On the other hand, on the Chinese market, this may even benefit Huawei, as a company representing "us vs US".
Now im waiting if china will ban apple
They wouldn't dare do that because then they'd lose 30% to 40% of their business especially in the preowned market their or the parts market
Wouldn't it affect apple a lot more because almost all of their products are manufacturered in China?
@@Tater_Lord many people in here don't understand what you just explained... I've had so many of these arguments for no reason the US wins here China loses
@@njbrx the effect will be far worse, trump didnt think about this apparently. Hopefully this doesnt happen and everything goes back as it was
Then they would be left with nothing to compare with as all of their design mostly are iPhone rip-offs
It's sad that the world is starting to become separated again, It was going so well for so many time. Have people just forgot the things that happened when it was like this?
Won't it be easy to bypass any issue by running a custom ROM?
Great video, but I feel like you missed some stuff. Android's official Twitter account stated that Google services will keep working with existing devices and I don't think new updates would break the services. The updates will just arrive slower because they have to wait for it to be distributed to AOSP. That's what I'm hoping for, at least.
USA: If we can't beat them, we must ban them😂😂😂
@Communism Suqs China didn't ban iPhones.
@Communism Suqs Well, if the Chinese Government decided to ban it, there is not much they can do. Imagine if they ban the Appstore in the country.
There's nothing more American than saving the day by inventing the problem in the first place 😂
@Communism Suqs Cause Google is controlled by US government, China knows that and its the only country say NO to US.
No Nime Ah and stealing IP is for the national good to right?
Imagine if huawei create an OPEN Source store with its own open source service where developer can build app for that store with all the revenue goes to developer....I am in for it
all the revenue goes to developer. Yeah. Not happening.
It's easier said than done, nokia failed because of their OS and that was when they had huge market share, they could have further developed their OS to be competitive with android but they weren't able to.
@@AadityaChakravarty it will happen 😂😂😂
There are open source app stores, but they operate with profit, because they are promoting open source. F-Droid is a popular alternative.
@@teddycat1212 it WONT happen if google doesnt start contributing to the repo, but even it will happen, for a dev deploying to the google store is nore profitable cause much more people are going to buy it there
the customers should initiate a class action suit against the USA government for putting its purchaseing at risc and forcing possible replacements of purchased items
4:20 huawei already has his own playstore its called app gallery
I feel so genius watching your videos. Very informative as always. I have never watch videos this long without getting bored before. Love the shirt by the way. 😍
Great work. I love your balanced view. keep it up!
I could see this resulting in Google, Amazon, etc altering their operations so they won't be subject to this sort of ban in the future.
As someone that owns an Honor 8, and was about to get a new Huawei decently soon, this is quite saddening. I hope this ban gets lifted soon!
USA showed us how far they can go when it comes to their monopoly. I think now other countries should come together and build an ecosystem like Map and other services together which nobody will own and work with combine effort of all nations .
They did this to Huawei they can do this to anyone .
OpenStreetMaps is a easy one for maps
honestly I feel that many companies that depended on someone else or worked at all with someone else from foreign nations are going to have to possibly isolate themselves as to make sure that every redundancy is in-check especially if they expect to get an attack or ban as big as this.
But I do agree that other countries should be able to build a huge ecosystem, just the problem is, even if no single country is a monopoly, this entire ecosystem will have it's dependencies somewhere, in different places, but still somewhere, and any of those places will not be at a benefit if the whole ecosystem itself is the monopoly considering profits are going to each other in that ecosystem. Perhaps there might be a way around this.
Huawei : *gets banned *
*Samsung : I like this.*
Samsung and Huawei might team up soon u know.
Flagships I'm Samsung has less battery capacity than it's competitor
I never used Chinese phones cuz there have been cases of them stealing tech from companies like samsung
@Tuperwear Not true. I am not Chinese and I support Hauwei. Iphone sucks. Once Apple intentionally slowed down my phone in order to make me buy a new phone. Samsung did similar thing with my note 4. Both suck.
@@sleepingbanshee_ samsung is basically an american company..u know. south korea lost their samsung ownership to the US like 10 years ago..now its shareholder is 55% american
If I already have huawei laptop, will I be affected?
I really like the new design of the channel, the whole thing became very professional. One of the best tech channels on TH-cam!
Simple solution, just include GMS installer in future phones.
Simple problem: Google knows this device is Huawei.
The 5G network equipment in UK is to be supplied by Huawei.
In Poland also Huawei supplied 5G network and we get source code to test
Definitely best breakdown! I saw a post somewhere that says that every smartphone maker is making its own store and now this ban means that Android (google android) was never meant to make all companies start together. This 10 year period was just a teaser for everyone else that we're going back to Nokia era
Watching you for a while now , nice job
As much as I loved the Mate 10 pro I'm happy I had traded it back last year in b&h.
P30 pro is the best phone I've had in a long time. This is bullshit
Ever since I heard this news. I was waiting for your video . I must say mate you nailed it.
It's an end of an era of trust and cooperation.
Historians will look back at this moment as pivotal imo
So Chinese companies spying on citizens of other countries on behalf of the Chinese government and the CONSTANT theft of IP on behalf of Chinese companies and the Chinese government isn't what ended this era that you claim supposedly existed?
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932I'm not blaming anyone just stating the fact that what was hidden is now public in IT wars.
Its not what i said. But now russia, brazil, india, germany and basically whoever can afford will develop they own IT ecosystems this is rolling back advancement of a decade.
Quality content,and which song is that?