The products appear to be exactly what I'm looking for: ultra-portable, with long battery life, and capable of handling gaming during spare time. I have a small question regarding the performance-at what FPS and settings does Valorant run? Additionally, would you consider it a "light game"? I always enjoy your content, and these options seem perfect for university use. I hope to hear back from you soon.
Honestly the best part is the iGPU that matches the RX 590 in SKUs that feature the full 54W TDP. Can wait to get one next year with LPCAMM2 upgradable RAM and even faster integrated graphics! 😁
Now I think that its trash. Either this laptop or this new ryzen 1st reason is, 53db fan noise only for 28w? Is there any good cooling? I guess not, cuz last year zenbooks had a joke instead of cooling system, asus does not care about cooling. 2nd why its only 28w, for a laptop this big, I'm talking about 16inch big with 2.fans why it can't run at least a 45w processor? It doesn't even have descreet GPU, whats the point of this ridiculous limitation on tdp?! 3rd noone needs Ai, at this point AI is just a marketing bullsht 4th this generation ryzen uses Mediatec wi-fi chip, which is just bad, it drops wi-fi, just as expected, mediatec modems had this problem in past and still didn't fixed it 5th no support so-dimm ram this isn't that bad if we mind new ram for laptop standard but asus want your money so they don't give you an option. 6th bad vent holes placing, id you close your laptop and try to use it with external display it will overheat, cus you covering up vent holes with screen This laptop and probably this gen of ryzen processor is 100% no-go for me
@@benjaminbong9214 depends on what you're looking for and what you're doing. At this point, laptop market is extremely competitive and windows with Qualcomm coming in is extremely great for consumers. I think the only bad options to be is Intel atm
As someone who values portability, energy efficiency, and quality, the new chip and thin design are particularly appealing. The heating of the keyboard under pressure is concerning though.
You can simply get a laptop fan stand and the chasis will stay much cooler when in performance mode and plugged in. Also use power saving mode when on battery for 12+ hours of battery life under office and light use.
It's been years after I came across this video of you. I used to watch Dave2D regularly back in the days when I had to get a system for myself. Lots of love man. Your content is helpful.
00:02: AMD's new Ryzen AI9 HX 370 chip powers the Asus Zenbook S16 laptop. 02:34: The Zenbook S16 features a stunning 16-inch OLED touchscreen with high refresh rate. 04:28: Impressive performance from both Ryzen chips, but keyboard gets warm during use. 06:50: Good speaker quality and battery life, with efficient energy use during light tasks. 08:52: Priced at $1399, the Zenbook S16 offers unique performance in a premium package.
@@viditarora98 Just appreciating the little things man! So easy to question or doubt or dislike, but we tend to take so much effort to compliment and spread good. Fortunately quite a few people thought it was cool as well.
Ive been watching your videos for years, and can I just say that your presentation style and tech setup is just perfect. Being able to control the camera's and zoom and stuff all while talking is amazing. I know you went into it deeper with a video recently, but it is really impressive.
no, id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality uncut
One of the reasons why Apple is so successful is because they named their product iPhone 5, iPhone 8, iPhone 15 etc and LG failed because LG G6 ThinQ, LG V60 ThinQ etc... Why manufacturer chose to put stupid name like AMD does here is beyond me.
I think it's because their development and marketing departments have little to no communication. Same happens with Samsung too. I think apple prioritizes those things to make it a bit easier for the average consumer to get into it, it's relatively easy for someone not into tech to tell which apple product is the newer one even in recent years.
Apple sells a product, AMD sells a platform with 10+ different SKUs, and they dont produce laptops, just chips. Yes the AI in the name is lame, but it still needs a category and model number unlike Apple that can just stick with the version and a "Pro" or "Max" for the other two versions. If you want to compare naming to Apple, you dont compare the name of the CPU but of the laptop: "ZenBook S16" to "MacBook Pro 2023". Not much different.
no, id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality
I had Asus accuse me of installing a motherboard m.2 heatsink ontop of m.2 heatsinks and that was their first response to a simple query about q-latches for a £700 motherboard.
@@earthtaurus5515 When you get investigated for customer complaints by Gamers Nexus, you lose all of your goodwill. " ASUS Scammed Us " by Gamers Nexus.
I look forward to lenovos full aluminium laptop with a Ryzen 9 Ai 395 HX which comes next year. I dont buy a 12 core which is basically 4 weak cpu cores with 8 good cpu cores in 1. The Ryzen 9 Ai 395 HX 16 core 40 compute units in 3nm is something worth, everything else is trash. Look this 370 hx, its 16 cu... thats less than half of what is coming in 1 year.
@@aykyi2668 It's a thin and light. I imagine those with more cores will have better cooling systems. I'm looking forward to seeing full benchmark comparisons.
hope the money can improve amd in gaming sector, be it games or gpu, their games are very potential and fun, assassins creed dirt gears of war call of duty etc will be very interesting if can manage to implement raytracing on those
I had a zenbook around 2016. It was competent for a business laptop. Unlike my Zephyrus from 2019 (SSD failed and I had to replace it), it never had any problems I can't believe how nice the new ones look. Beautiful.
how a failed ssd have anything to do with a laptop. whas was the brand of the ssd? Zephyrus ssd 4gb? when a component fails in my DIY desktop, im to blame?
It might be an unlucky situation. My g14 from 2020 is still up and running tho the 1650ti just wasn't cutting it for me and so recent upgraded to the g16
@@Roop283 - my 2018 dell 7400 2in1 aged much better and is still a small usable work laptop with acceptable battery life. I can stream any games from my linux desktop windows VM if i like too. thats why i don' buy laptops with dGPU. Interested in zenbook s16
you have to look at what brand of SSD your zenbook using, it's obviously not Asus fault...that SSD brand is failed on you. SSD failure can be happened to any laptop to be fair
Honestly the same thing happend to me. My 2021 Zephyrus M16 Samsung SSD (came pre-installed) killed itself for no reason. I was using the laptop and it suddenly froze after I did a force shutdown it stopped booting. And I had to install a new SSD, to get it to start. Else it was just stuck on a black screen.
Happy to see windows pcs battery life matching MacBooks. I’m on my third MacBook (Air M2), but it’s thin and good performing laptops like these which might make me switch. Although, i might switch to Linux over Windows.
hi that battery life is just fairytale. i work with tech and intel/amd battery life is always just HALF of what is advertized, so expect 4h in idle/office with this one. its simple math: apple m1-4 macs drain around 5W /= 15h of work/ of power in office use while best amd chips drain like 7-9w with everything turned off /wifi, backlight, bloetooth, brightnes to 20%/. Dont trust reviewers, real life usage is completly different /windows and linux tested with zillion power tweaks/.
@@SKcdman usually i’d agree. but with @dave2d i will make an exception. all his reviews mentioning the m1 and m2 MacBooks have been very accurate to my usage. + i’ve been following him over 4 years, and i trust his content to the core.
spend so much money to run some nonsense os - thats more stupid than windows bare metal. if x86 hardware will look like this zenbook s16 i see to point to swiching. and it has a real GPU
@@SKcdman - were you able to test zen5/zen5c chiplets? i own old dell 7400 2in1 and will probably own 16" ryzen ai apu. from what u wrote my 7400 have better battery life than all the laptops you have seen working in tech and im just running new linux kernel and basic power saving services
Soo, this is what we can expect from the next handheld generation? The 780M is equivalent to the Z1 Extreme and the 890M is 20-30% faster. Sounds pretty good to me. Btw, the ROG Ally X's battery is as big as the one in this laptop which is crazy.
@@abdullahk0405why strix halo? Doesn't strix halo start at 65 watts up to 130w? Wouldn't that over double their power consumption? Also the strix halo CPUs are not monolithic, which is generally worse for gaming.
@@user-sf8du AMD's high performance cpu are generally more efficient and can easily give good performance at 35-55w range too. Both Intel and Amd are heavily focusing on efficiency this time so u can expect that much atleast.
6:48 the trackpad is definitely not centered - there are three keys ( Ctrl - Fn - Win ) on the left, and horizontal space that is wider than three keys on the right (see the / key and the right Shift key that takes up more than two keys)
I like the way you narrate your videos--conversationally and informationally that makes them so enjoyable that I watch them even when I have no interest in the product you are reviewing.
@@somnambulist6636 You're confusing repairability with upgradability. It's not 10/10, but still you can easily replace M2 SSD, the battery, and so on. And you can do it yourself using regular tools. Soldered RAM is becoming a standard, especially if you prefer (and I do prefer) unified memory architecture for CPU and GPU.
@@somnambulist6636 It's a better architecture efficiency and performance wise. In macOS you can use most of it as VRAM, so there are other convenient functional consequences. In terms of repairability, RAM is the most durable component and does not wear out like SSD, so I don't bother if it's soldered or not. Problems with RAM are very rare and even if you get a faulty module, it manifests itself in early years of usage, which are covered by the standard warranty.
I just bought the ASUS Zenbook Pro 14 OLED (i9/4070) at the beginning of last month for college. I don’t regret buying it at all and so far it does not disappoint and runs just as great as desktop would. PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO REVIEWING THIS LAPTOP since I have not really benchmarked battery life and I feel like it does not match up with what other people say on TH-cam or the Asus website
The news of this processor is cool but, not touching any Asus laptop ever again until we see them notably supporting their customers. Will be excited when literally any other brand offers an affordable build with this chip.
Gamer Nexus did a final interview with them and had them promise to improve, whether that stays in the far future is still debatable but at least for now Gamer Jesus had them 😂
Yep agreed. He just doesn’t put in the time to test them because his reviews launch right out of the gate. The real reviews come a bit later after people have spent more time with the devices
I'd say x elite laptops are definitely some of the most positively reviewed windows laptops in a very long time. Especially the new Surface Laptop. Adding to the fact that (compatibility aside) x Elite still beats these brand new AMD chips in every performance metric apart from graphics and leaks suggest they'll beat the new Intels too. I'd say Dave was right.
@@SixPathsOfJin much of the Snapdragon performance has to do with how the company's configure them which is confusing to say the least and also what performance mode they're being tested on which also adds to the confusion. I've seen the lower and Qualcomm chips perform better than the high end Qualcomm chips just based on that alone
Am i the only one that wants thicker laptops, better thermals = longer life battery, better speakers, and deeper keyboards? And all the ports ? . How thing is the laptop is the last thing on mind.
Felt like the battery life section zoomed by pretty quickly. Was that considered good battery life? Looking forward to comparisons with the newest from Intel and the Snapdragon chips.
Dave2D is the only one entitled to launch a wallpaper app I'd be happy to pay 49.99 for he's good taste on minimalism cleanness and freshness in UI and hardware
About these holes above keyboard... How are they supposed to be spill resistant if that's where the air gets sucked in from? Wouldn't that just suck in the water as well? Or does this apply only to when the fans are off? 😅
I have concluded that I no longer need gaming on a laptop. Having a thin and light laptop with full day battery backup is what I look for in a laptop nowadays. For gaming needs, I am thinking of finally buying an xbox or a ps5 instead of spending huge money for building a desktop. I am waiting for the next iteration of the snapdragon x elite devices, hoping they get full Linux support by the middle of next year. Also, I am interested in battery backup of upcoming Lunar Lake devices.
because hes doing lazy fast review ..., id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality
@@maomekat2369 same, and he barely reviews any product. earlier he used to do some good mice, laptops , graphics cards , monitors and used to give good perspective, now it like those channel who unbox and talk specs. remember old oneplus video 6 7 era they were also good.
i also got a vivobook s16 with hx 370 and i have to say, the battery is decent, but nothing special i mean, it's better than my 4800h laptop but it's battery is also smaller than the vivobook, so it kinda averages out so amd kept a meh power consumption on these new chips with a nice bump in perf. if you put it to whisper mode, do some undervolting, keep the refresh rate at 60hz and just do web browsing (more yt videos), you can get close to 10hrs of battery. in general with whisper, 120hz and normal usage you get 5-7hrs. gaming, you get about 2hrs of gta 5 at max settings in whisper mode, you barely hear any fans during gaming (set to 75c max) it's fantastic how much perf the chip gives at ~17w stable.
I’m a bit disappointed you didn’t show the charger. I bought the UM5302 Zenbook, which came with a very nice, tiny 65w charger with a USB-C output, but newer Zenbook models ditched that for a bulkier charger with non-detachable cable, probably for cost-saving.
Based on the battery life testing, if battery capacity is also normalized, then the battery life is almost the same as core U7. This is kind of weird. I assume the behavior could come from peripheral power consumption like monitor.
Priced quite fairly actually, I expected a way higher number given these specs and capabilities, my old 2017 or so ZenBook cost me around $1700 with way lower specs.
I'm curious about what makes you say that. On paper their tech seems like amazing products. I myself own a g15 2022 and although I had some issues, after some restarts and updates it's been silky smooth since then.
@Dave2D - Thanks Dave, this was really helpful - ARM helps not only with perf/watt but also to give AMD real competition (unlike Int**). Dave - one video series idea - can you do comparison benchmarks of old gens phones also compared to new ones - like Galaxy S1,S2,S3,...S24 ... at least the main ones in between like S1,S6,S12,S20,S24. And just to check the basics like how long it took an app like Google Keep / GMail / Chrome / something fundamental = to just open and load a page etc. And the navigation speed. Reason : I was using some old phone with older HW and OS, but their speed was actually quite good. So, instead of seeing at least 10% speed bump for each generation, there is only about 1% or some times -5% also. This means - there really is not use spending so much $, since most of the performance gains are on paper and camera etc.
Thin laptops are weak and usually don't survive for long unless you baby them and don't take them anywhere. I've broken so many I went to rugged laptops so I don't have to worry about a light breeze taking them out.
Would love a take on Viture Pro XR glasses or others for gaming on laptops. Traveling around with a 15" gaming computer, squinting my eyes to find enemies on FPS games with the small laptop screen. Hoping XR glasses could give us the "desktop" feeling of having a big screen on the go
My experience hasn't been great so far. Received it on Saturday and returned it yesterday. Ordered a new one hoping that the first one was just a defect. I really want to love this thing, keeping my fingers crossed.
@@arynbwr The new unit is better, doesn't seem to have the defect of the first one. But I still can't figure out how to enable Dynamic Refresh Rate. Seems to be either just 60 hz or 120 hz. When I click on the box for Dynamic, it instantly defaults the 120 back to 60 and the only way to change back to 120 is by closing and reopening the settings. Maybe I'm missing something... I absolutely love the visual aspect of this laptop, gorgeous design and screen, really good keyboard and trackpad. The build doesn't feel nearly as premium as SL7, GB4P or Mac. I think it's the bottom cover that makes it feel cheap-ish since it's very thin and flexes a lot when pressed.... A 16 in OLED SL7 would be my preferred choice but since that doesn't exist and the 16" GB4P and Edge trackpad is really bad with palm rejection, I'll stick with the S16 for now I think.
I'm interested to see how these will perform in a smaller chassis like a 13 or 14-in system. Chips perform better in larger systems because of you know physics
just a suggestion: i saw first is that you reach buttons during recording in order to switch to certain layouts and camera angles for the video. I highly suggest that you include foot buttons of some sort into your setup! this will look more natural in the long run. great content as always
Same ASUS problem with the keyboard - look at 2:26 sqq - light lettering on light coloured keys. Same problem with my Asus VivoBook which I ditched for an MSI 16.
Considering all my previous laptops i'd even take 4 hours lol. My two laptops (first one sold, second one stolen last month) didn't last more than 2 hours, and certainly not more than 1:30 if i'm using them for anything
@@ZedDevStuff All-day battery life gives you a lot of options for getting work done while you're traveling. Apple had the laptop market on the Boston to Washington Acela route and now Windows gets its turn.
These manufacturers generally always go in the wrong direction. Consumers want a bigger battery and a thicker design to help with thermals and minimize noise or be fanless, like the amazing Apple Silicon.
I want this 370 chip in a 14". The 890m is more than capable of being a gaming machine on its own without a full discrete GPU. The ROG Ally runs only a 780m.
Increasing the single-core performance takes the most R&D and Apple is miles ahead in that, especially with the M4. Apple achieved this despite the clock speed remaining the same, by changing the architecture of the CPU. This is something that Android and Windows-side chipmakers, who are often perceived as subpar, would never do because they don't tend to make any architectural changes at all, especially Intel. These manufacturers only know how to add more cores and increase clock speed.
@@azurebluegames He bluntly made a cue of that in a long video that wasn't about that. That's not a full breakdown video that takes it step by step through the process. Exactly what I am looking out for.
How its anti reflective coating? Is it comparable to apple MacBook pro level, or much worse? When you work with texts, good anti reflective coating (or mate screen) is important factor, especially in dark themed apps...
@@somnambulist6636 Nope. He said it right. If you check before M1 and after you will see massive improvement in Intel and AMD. Snapdragon slept for 4 years.
I kinda want to see how the Business level Elitebook and ZBooks will be like with these AMD chips which came out now. Those have usually like low power 1000 nits ips panels on 1080p. That might give great battery life in total.
Who is asking for such thin laptops though? Unless you're trying to use it while walking around I cannot think of a single reason to want it to be thinner or lighter than a 14" Macbook Pro. For a few months I had both a MacBook Air and a Pro thinking the Air might be better when I don't have a table. It was actually worse in the lap. In 2.5 months I might have used the Air for a combine 45 minutes.
Dave is one of the youtubers I watch for years and that inspired me to start my own youtube journey! I also want this laptop, but ain't gonna get it unless I get some subscribers first :/
It's 2024 and windows laptops still don't have a 1080p webcam across the board and no type c ports on both sides for charging 🙂. Simple things that make life easier
I wanna see like a 100W version (or whatever overall output of a laptop can be with this chip), like Xiaomi's Redmibook 15 Pro, and see what it's really capable of
@@azenyr oh, i thought these were arm based compared to the previous CPUs, cuz of them advertised with the new copilot pcs and extremely good battery life, thanks!
After switching to macos as my main work station, I could care less about pcs getting better, mac just does it better. Ill stick to windows for games only
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these new AMD chips are phenomenal
Would you say Phenom-inal? 😅 sorry not sorry
The products appear to be exactly what I'm looking for: ultra-portable, with long battery life, and capable of handling gaming during spare time. I have a small question regarding the performance-at what FPS and settings does Valorant run? Additionally, would you consider it a "light game"? I always enjoy your content, and these options seem perfect for university use. I hope to hear back from you soon.
Honestly the best part is the iGPU that matches the RX 590 in SKUs that feature the full 54W TDP.
Can wait to get one next year with LPCAMM2 upgradable RAM and even faster integrated graphics! 😁
@@Dave2D still waiting for Strix Halo
Now I think that its trash. Either this laptop or this new ryzen
1st reason is, 53db fan noise only for 28w? Is there any good cooling? I guess not, cuz last year zenbooks had a joke instead of cooling system, asus does not care about cooling.
2nd why its only 28w, for a laptop this big, I'm talking about 16inch big with 2.fans why it can't run at least a 45w processor? It doesn't even have descreet GPU, whats the point of this ridiculous limitation on tdp?!
3rd noone needs Ai, at this point AI is just a marketing bullsht
4th this generation ryzen uses Mediatec wi-fi chip, which is just bad, it drops wi-fi, just as expected, mediatec modems had this problem in past and still didn't fixed it
5th no support so-dimm ram this isn't that bad if we mind new ram for laptop standard but asus want your money so they don't give you an option.
6th bad vent holes placing, id you close your laptop and try to use it with external display it will overheat, cus you covering up vent holes with screen
This laptop and probably this gen of ryzen processor is 100% no-go for me
"This is the year windows laptops stop sucking" - Dave2D every year
they have been ass since 2020 and arguably even earlier lets pray they arent butt this year
Kaizen!!!
They have been amazing since they got Ryzen
@@benjaminbong9214 depends on what you're looking for and what you're doing. At this point, laptop market is extremely competitive and windows with Qualcomm coming in is extremely great for consumers. I think the only bad options to be is Intel atm
The laptops don't suck, their hardware is good. The problem is Windows.
As someone who values portability, energy efficiency, and quality, the new chip and thin design are particularly appealing. The heating of the keyboard under pressure is concerning though.
He mentioned maximizing clk speed at the beginning. I wonder if his analysis and feedback was under these settings?
why would it be concerning?
You can simply get a laptop fan stand and the chasis will stay much cooler when in performance mode and plugged in. Also use power saving mode when on battery for 12+ hours of battery life under office and light use.
you cant lift 5lbs?
@@burundianfamily2982 than carry a brick around everywhere you go 😛😛
It's been years after I came across this video of you. I used to watch Dave2D regularly back in the days when I had to get a system for myself. Lots of love man. Your content is helpful.
00:02: AMD's new Ryzen AI9 HX 370 chip powers the Asus Zenbook S16 laptop.
02:34: The Zenbook S16 features a stunning 16-inch OLED touchscreen with high refresh rate.
04:28: Impressive performance from both Ryzen chips, but keyboard gets warm during use.
06:50: Good speaker quality and battery life, with efficient energy use during light tasks.
08:52: Priced at $1399, the Zenbook S16 offers unique performance in a premium package.
Today I noticed that the whole video is a single cut! He even changes the dual camera! Dave is a genius at saving editing time! Respect
I noticed that and subscribed to his channel today. Respect.
So? It's just a 10min laptop review not a tv episode lol
@@viditarora98 Just appreciating the little things man! So easy to question or doubt or dislike, but we tend to take so much effort to compliment and spread good. Fortunately quite a few people thought it was cool as well.
The top looks exactly like a kitchen counter.
it totally does! like one of those ceramic slabs. it def feels like that material
@@Dave2D i thought it looked like quartz
Could we like…. Cut vegetables on it?
@@Dave2Ddave do you think in long run and chips will be maintaining that performance reliability is the issue with these devices in long run
They knew that this will go busy in 2-3 years and they just want users to use it as a chopping board afterwards.
3:00 drawing a boy from the written word "boy", got nostalgic seeing that
great video as always
Lol I first read it as "MMM boy" when he was drawing it.
boy is as universal as the super S. You thought it was unique in your area, but it is global
@@zeffmalchazeen3429 he didn’t think that
Great video 👍 keep it up !
thank you! appreciate the SUPER THX
Ive been watching your videos for years, and can I just say that your presentation style and tech setup is just perfect. Being able to control the camera's and zoom and stuff all while talking is amazing. I know you went into it deeper with a video recently, but it is really impressive.
no, id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality uncut
too many touches it seems, hx260
@@maomekat2369 Go watch MKBHD then. That is not Dave's style.
One of the reasons why Apple is so successful is because they named their product iPhone 5, iPhone 8, iPhone 15 etc and LG failed because LG G6 ThinQ, LG V60 ThinQ etc... Why manufacturer chose to put stupid name like AMD does here is beyond me.
I think it's because their development and marketing departments have little to no communication. Same happens with Samsung too. I think apple prioritizes those things to make it a bit easier for the average consumer to get into it, it's relatively easy for someone not into tech to tell which apple product is the newer one even in recent years.
Apple sells a product, AMD sells a platform with 10+ different SKUs, and they dont produce laptops, just chips.
Yes the AI in the name is lame, but it still needs a category and model number unlike Apple that can just stick with the version and a "Pro" or "Max" for the other two versions.
If you want to compare naming to Apple, you dont compare the name of the CPU but of the laptop: "ZenBook S16" to "MacBook Pro 2023". Not much different.
@@marsovac That's not an excuse, you can put AMD [3/5/7/9] [1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10] and you are done.
Preach, brother.
0 Marketing lol
Something about these nearly raw, uncut reviews that make it so refreshing to watch. Wished more tech YTers would do this
Agreed but it is difficult! Many presenter brains can't handle this kind of processing. Production quality here is very high.
no, id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality
I'll wait for another manufacturer for these as I've had some bad experiences with Asus on their support after a year.
I had Asus accuse me of installing a motherboard m.2 heatsink ontop of m.2 heatsinks and that was their first response to a simple query about q-latches for a £700 motherboard.
@@earthtaurus5515 When you get investigated for customer complaints by Gamers Nexus, you lose all of your goodwill. " ASUS Scammed Us " by Gamers Nexus.
Yup, ASSUS can burn in hell.
I look forward to lenovos full aluminium laptop with a Ryzen 9 Ai 395 HX which comes next year. I dont buy a 12 core which is basically 4 weak cpu cores with 8 good cpu cores in 1.
The Ryzen 9 Ai 395 HX 16 core 40 compute units in 3nm is something worth, everything else is trash. Look this 370 hx, its 16 cu... thats less than half of what is coming in 1 year.
@@aykyi2668 It's a thin and light. I imagine those with more cores will have better cooling systems. I'm looking forward to seeing full benchmark comparisons.
Love to see AMD get a win. We need variety and choice in the market.
hope the money can improve amd in gaming sector, be it games or gpu, their games are very potential and fun, assassins creed dirt gears of war call of duty etc will be very interesting if can manage to implement raytracing on those
@@iikatinggangsengii2471 they already make the best CPUs for gaming but yes GPU options are pretty lacking
I had a zenbook around 2016. It was competent for a business laptop. Unlike my Zephyrus from 2019 (SSD failed and I had to replace it), it never had any problems I can't believe how nice the new ones look. Beautiful.
how a failed ssd have anything to do with a laptop. whas was the brand of the ssd? Zephyrus ssd 4gb? when a component fails in my DIY desktop, im to blame?
It might be an unlucky situation. My g14 from 2020 is still up and running tho the 1650ti just wasn't cutting it for me and so recent upgraded to the g16
@@Roop283 - my 2018 dell 7400 2in1 aged much better and is still a small usable work laptop with acceptable battery life. I can stream any games from my linux desktop windows VM if i like too. thats why i don' buy laptops with dGPU. Interested in zenbook s16
you have to look at what brand of SSD your zenbook using, it's obviously not Asus fault...that SSD brand is failed on you. SSD failure can be happened to any laptop to be fair
Honestly the same thing happend to me. My 2021 Zephyrus M16 Samsung SSD (came pre-installed) killed itself for no reason.
I was using the laptop and it suddenly froze after I did a force shutdown it stopped booting. And I had to install a new SSD, to get it to start. Else it was just stuck on a black screen.
This is SICK!! As soon as you showed the touch screen on top of all this..dude I’m buying
Happy to see windows pcs battery life matching MacBooks. I’m on my third MacBook (Air M2), but it’s thin and good performing laptops like these which might make me switch. Although, i might switch to Linux over Windows.
hi that battery life is just fairytale. i work with tech and intel/amd battery life is always just HALF of what is advertized, so expect 4h in idle/office with this one. its simple math: apple m1-4 macs drain around 5W /= 15h of work/ of power in office use while best amd chips drain like 7-9w with everything turned off /wifi, backlight, bloetooth, brightnes to 20%/. Dont trust reviewers, real life usage is completly different /windows and linux tested with zillion power tweaks/.
@@SKcdmanmy hp aero 13 was advertised with 10+ hours, even by the reviewers. I barely see 5 hours :P. 4 something is realistic. I feel betrayed :(.
@@SKcdman usually i’d agree. but with @dave2d i will make an exception. all his reviews mentioning the m1 and m2 MacBooks have been very accurate to my usage. + i’ve been following him over 4 years, and i trust his content to the core.
spend so much money to run some nonsense os - thats more stupid than windows bare metal. if x86 hardware will look like this zenbook s16 i see to point to swiching. and it has a real GPU
@@SKcdman - were you able to test zen5/zen5c chiplets? i own old dell 7400 2in1 and will probably own 16" ryzen ai apu. from what u wrote my 7400 have better battery life than all the laptops you have seen working in tech and im just running new linux kernel and basic power saving services
Soo, this is what we can expect from the next handheld generation? The 780M is equivalent to the Z1 Extreme and the 890M is 20-30% faster. Sounds pretty good to me. Btw, the ROG Ally X's battery is as big as the one in this laptop which is crazy.
Well, the Ally X is also much thicker so it can afford to be bigger.
Nah it's probably a 10-15% bump in performance
Nah they will wait for Strix Halo
@@abdullahk0405why strix halo?
Doesn't strix halo start at 65 watts up to 130w?
Wouldn't that over double their power consumption?
Also the strix halo CPUs are not monolithic, which is generally worse for gaming.
@@user-sf8du AMD's high performance cpu are generally more efficient and can easily give good performance at 35-55w range too. Both Intel and Amd are heavily focusing on efficiency this time so u can expect that much atleast.
Waiting three years for the tech to get fine tuned and the prices for the second gen to come down
This mentality just means you're always waiting. Tech advances so quickly that in 6 months something new is only around the corner
Yes and yes
I actually think these are the best chips we've seen from any of the recent AMD launches. it feels strangely well tuned out of the gate
@@DarkAbyss9 That great, now I can keep saving money.
@@DarkAbyss9I agree to both sides XD
6:48 the trackpad is definitely not centered - there are three keys ( Ctrl - Fn - Win ) on the left, and horizontal space that is wider than three keys on the right (see the / key and the right Shift key that takes up more than two keys)
Any day with Dave is a win.
I wish he was my girlfriend
That's what we all wish for
I like the way you narrate your videos--conversationally and informationally that makes them so enjoyable that I watch them even when I have no interest in the product you are reviewing.
The repairability rating must be quite high and that's impressive as well. Look how easy Dave disassembled the speaker part and put it back inside...
Next time put a /s after sarcasm. ( If you were serious, let me tell you ALL the ram is soldered like MacBooks
@@somnambulist6636worse, the chip doesn't even support unsoldered RAM at this time
@@somnambulist6636 You're confusing repairability with upgradability. It's not 10/10, but still you can easily replace M2 SSD, the battery, and so on. And you can do it yourself using regular tools. Soldered RAM is becoming a standard, especially if you prefer (and I do prefer) unified memory architecture for CPU and GPU.
@@PeterRince why is unified architecture better than standard seperate ram ? If ram dies , the whole motherboard dies , so much for repairability
@@somnambulist6636 It's a better architecture efficiency and performance wise. In macOS you can use most of it as VRAM, so there are other convenient functional consequences. In terms of repairability, RAM is the most durable component and does not wear out like SSD, so I don't bother if it's soldered or not. Problems with RAM are very rare and even if you get a faulty module, it manifests itself in early years of usage, which are covered by the standard warranty.
I just bought the ASUS Zenbook Pro 14 OLED (i9/4070) at the beginning of last month for college. I don’t regret buying it at all and so far it does not disappoint and runs just as great as desktop would. PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO REVIEWING THIS LAPTOP since I have not really benchmarked battery life and I feel like it does not match up with what other people say on TH-cam or the Asus website
i9 With a 4070 ur joking right…
Nice laptop but damn man you be better be plugged in all the time 😂
@@GojoBoiAlt1 nah, ima be doing everything on this laptop for 4+ years and and going for engineering
@@inevitable408 yea 😂 the battery ain’t that bad unplugged tho, but any windows pc with a GPU is gonna have crappy battery life unfortunately
The news of this processor is cool but, not touching any Asus laptop ever again until we see them notably supporting their customers.
Will be excited when literally any other brand offers an affordable build with this chip.
Gamer Nexus did a final interview with them and had them promise to improve, whether that stays in the far future is still debatable but at least for now Gamer Jesus had them 😂
That's only a US problem. In my country they are the best at support.
Whats wrong with Asus ? Idk
@@yippeeki-yey check Gamer Nexus' Asus scam video
@@yippeeki-yey they scam on the warranty
love your vids dave. the video quality is appreciated.
tbh I'm kinda skeptic after the X Elite launch. You were one of the really positive reviewers before bad (arguably real) reviews started showing up
Yep agreed. He just doesn’t put in the time to test them because his reviews launch right out of the gate. The real reviews come a bit later after people have spent more time with the devices
Same thing with linus. He will sponsored by Qualcomm so he gave an amazing review of the product when other channels had other things to say
i mean its asus wouldnt trust them anyways with such an expensive item.
I'd say x elite laptops are definitely some of the most positively reviewed windows laptops in a very long time. Especially the new Surface Laptop.
Adding to the fact that (compatibility aside) x Elite still beats these brand new AMD chips in every performance metric apart from graphics and leaks suggest they'll beat the new Intels too. I'd say Dave was right.
@@SixPathsOfJin much of the Snapdragon performance has to do with how the company's configure them which is confusing to say the least and also what performance mode they're being tested on which also adds to the confusion. I've seen the lower and Qualcomm chips perform better than the high end Qualcomm chips just based on that alone
Amazing candid review. I'm now feeling even better about buying the SnapDragon x7 Lenovo Yoga Slim model.
Am i the only one that wants thicker laptops, better thermals = longer life battery, better speakers, and deeper keyboards? And all the ports ?
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How thing is the laptop is the last thing on mind.
Those things exist. I want the lightest possible 16" laptop and am willing to make some compromises.
There are lots of different customers. :)
so why u watched this review of zenbook s16? this is light and thiin work laptop, which will play simple games like DOTA2
@@michal1693 yo dota2 may be easy to run but it ain't simple
@@michal1693 Hey genius, it is because coincidentally this specific laptop is the first one to use AMD's new CPU and we want to see how it performs
@@DanKaschel - true, was only talking graphic demands, not the game itself - its deep
6:27 i agree. I prefer if it was slightly thicker, especially if it makes it sturdier too. 10% heavier also ok.
Keep up the good job, Dave!
Hell yeah!
I think your lighting setup made the laptop look even more beautiful...
Nice review too...
Felt like the battery life section zoomed by pretty quickly. Was that considered good battery life? Looking forward to comparisons with the newest from Intel and the Snapdragon chips.
Yeah thats what i also was thinking
That Black Color is fricking awesome! Wow, those silver highlights 🔥🔥
What's the name of the mouse at 3:21?
Looks like an Asus ROG Harpe Ace Aim White Lab Edition
Dave2D is the only one entitled to launch a wallpaper app I'd be happy to pay 49.99 for he's good taste on minimalism cleanness and freshness in UI and hardware
About these holes above keyboard... How are they supposed to be spill resistant if that's where the air gets sucked in from? Wouldn't that just suck in the water as well? Or does this apply only to when the fans are off? 😅
if the pitch is on the size, surface tension should kick in which means the water won't go anywhere else so fast.
I have concluded that I no longer need gaming on a laptop. Having a thin and light laptop with full day battery backup is what I look for in a laptop nowadays. For gaming needs, I am thinking of finally buying an xbox or a ps5 instead of spending huge money for building a desktop.
I am waiting for the next iteration of the snapdragon x elite devices, hoping they get full Linux support by the middle of next year. Also, I am interested in battery backup of upcoming Lunar Lake devices.
I will wait for the 14" ZenBook version of HX370
Same here. Any rumors?
The 14" comes with the new Intel CPU presented at Computex
@@mariussm7797 Hope that's the only Zenbool 14 model
@@mariussm7797that's a bummer, but maybe zephyrus g14 will give us what we want
Do you know when that is supposed to be coming??
it has been so long that dave has given a proper review video for gaming laptops like he used to few years back.
because hes doing lazy fast review ..., id prefer less haptic/proper thought out, ith cuts, edits...not this uhh hmm oh and hmm uhh breathless semi random phone call style . scripted like a movie is better than this standup on the spot low quality
@@maomekat2369 same, and he barely reviews any product. earlier he used to do some good mice, laptops , graphics cards , monitors and used to give good perspective, now it like those channel who unbox and talk specs. remember old oneplus video 6 7 era they were also good.
No Battery endurance test between this chip and the M2 and Snapdragon competition?
bro 4 to 7 hours max, they are not even third the battery life time of the compitition, i feel like this was an ad
i also got a vivobook s16 with hx 370 and i have to say, the battery is decent, but nothing special
i mean, it's better than my 4800h laptop but it's battery is also smaller than the vivobook, so it kinda averages out
so amd kept a meh power consumption on these new chips with a nice bump in perf.
if you put it to whisper mode, do some undervolting, keep the refresh rate at 60hz and just do web browsing (more yt videos), you can get close to 10hrs of battery.
in general with whisper, 120hz and normal usage you get 5-7hrs.
gaming, you get about 2hrs of gta 5 at max settings
in whisper mode, you barely hear any fans during gaming (set to 75c max)
it's fantastic how much perf the chip gives at ~17w stable.
Ngl Dave you deserve more appreciation for your clean aesthetic vids
I’m a bit disappointed you didn’t show the charger. I bought the UM5302 Zenbook, which came with a very nice, tiny 65w charger with a USB-C output, but newer Zenbook models ditched that for a bulkier charger with non-detachable cable, probably for cost-saving.
Based on the battery life testing, if battery capacity is also normalized, then the battery life is almost the same as core U7. This is kind of weird.
I assume the behavior could come from peripheral power consumption like monitor.
Priced quite fairly actually, I expected a way higher number given these specs and capabilities, my old 2017 or so ZenBook cost me around $1700 with way lower specs.
i was expecting 1800 tbh
ASUS is still on my no buy list
I'm curious about what makes you say that. On paper their tech seems like amazing products. I myself own a g15 2022 and although I had some issues, after some restarts and updates it's been silky smooth since then.
their customer service is useless and really sh!t, even if the products are good.
@@envynoir I heard about their infamous customer service, but at this point which tech company doesn't... I heard no good about any tech support
@Dave2D - Thanks Dave, this was really helpful - ARM helps not only with perf/watt but also to give AMD real competition (unlike Int**). Dave - one video series idea - can you do comparison benchmarks of old gens phones also compared to new ones - like Galaxy S1,S2,S3,...S24 ... at least the main ones in between like S1,S6,S12,S20,S24. And just to check the basics like how long it took an app like Google Keep / GMail / Chrome / something fundamental = to just open and load a page etc. And the navigation speed. Reason : I was using some old phone with older HW and OS, but their speed was actually quite good. So, instead of seeing at least 10% speed bump for each generation, there is only about 1% or some times -5% also. This means - there really is not use spending so much $, since most of the performance gains are on paper and camera etc.
The keyboard heat is gonna be a no-go for me
Last time I made a mistake buying an ACER and I am not going to risk one more time. I had much better experience with HP and will go back to it.
Why are they so obsessed with slim laptops? many people just don't care they like the boxy design of the apple m3
...so buy the ProArt that's not slim?
Wait for another year or two and you will see all these manufacturers start copying the Macbook's boxy design
@@hyposlasher I think razer did for a short period of time then brands went back to slim laptops. Even apple is going back to slim laptops.
I absolutely love the THICKNESS AND WEIGHT OF THE mb pro 16!!!
Thin laptops are weak and usually don't survive for long unless you baby them and don't take them anywhere. I've broken so many I went to rugged laptops so I don't have to worry about a light breeze taking them out.
Would love a take on Viture Pro XR glasses or others for gaming on laptops.
Traveling around with a 15" gaming computer, squinting my eyes to find enemies on FPS games with the small laptop screen.
Hoping XR glasses could give us the "desktop" feeling of having a big screen on the go
My experience hasn't been great so far. Received it on Saturday and returned it yesterday. Ordered a new one hoping that the first one was just a defect. I really want to love this thing, keeping my fingers crossed.
Come back and update us!
@@arynbwr The new unit is better, doesn't seem to have the defect of the first one. But I still can't figure out how to enable Dynamic Refresh Rate. Seems to be either just 60 hz or 120 hz. When I click on the box for Dynamic, it instantly defaults the 120 back to 60 and the only way to change back to 120 is by closing and reopening the settings. Maybe I'm missing something... I absolutely love the visual aspect of this laptop, gorgeous design and screen, really good keyboard and trackpad. The build doesn't feel nearly as premium as SL7, GB4P or Mac. I think it's the bottom cover that makes it feel cheap-ish since it's very thin and flexes a lot when pressed.... A 16 in OLED SL7 would be my preferred choice but since that doesn't exist and the 16" GB4P and Edge trackpad is really bad with palm rejection, I'll stick with the S16 for now I think.
I'm interested to see how these will perform in a smaller chassis like a 13 or 14-in system. Chips perform better in larger systems because of you know physics
like any ther 30watt cpu. why u ask if u know physics?
just a suggestion: i saw first is that you reach buttons during recording in order to switch to certain layouts and camera angles for the video. I highly suggest that you include foot buttons of some sort into your setup! this will look more natural in the long run. great content as always
Lol, get a hobby dude. I love his presentation style and he can leave as is
@@Yielar1 it is just a friendly suggestion, if he wants it that way then he can be. what harm has been done?
Big fan of your wallpaper selection Dave, I think those are custom made?
What's the point of a 12mm notebook? Make it 18mm and give me a larger battery capacity, bigger vapor chamber etc.
there's definitely a market for super thin devices. it also helps keep the weight down. but I do think a 1-2 mm increase would have helped on this one
You have to just wait for "gaming" laptops with these processors.
hate the naming scheme, but can't argue the performance it give and battery life it get
Maybe it's just me but I hate super thin laptops. They never last as long in my experience and the cooling is subpar.
I 100% agree but we're normally dealing with much hotter chips. these run significantly cooler than anything we've seen before
Asus quality is hot and cold. Keys on my G15 was shot after a year. The S-key even split in half.
Always love the aesthetic setup and clean asf presentation
Same ASUS problem with the keyboard - look at 2:26 sqq - light lettering on light coloured keys. Same problem with my Asus VivoBook which I ditched for an MSI 16.
7 hours of battery life in light tasks is no longer enough. 10h is absolute minimum.
My M1 Pro MacBook Pro gets about 12 hours for casual stuff, 6 hours for my professional workload. Battery life is insane these days.
It's a loop test....
Considering all my previous laptops i'd even take 4 hours lol. My two laptops (first one sold, second one stolen last month) didn't last more than 2 hours, and certainly not more than 1:30 if i'm using them for anything
@@ZedDevStuff All-day battery life gives you a lot of options for getting work done while you're traveling. Apple had the laptop market on the Boston to Washington Acela route and now Windows gets its turn.
With an additional 1 or 2mm, they'll even be able to use upgradable RAM. But it's now allowed in current days.
These manufacturers generally always go in the wrong direction. Consumers want a bigger battery and a thicker design to help with thermals and minimize noise or be fanless, like the amazing Apple Silicon.
No ?
I want this 370 chip in a 14". The 890m is more than capable of being a gaming machine on its own without a full discrete GPU. The ROG Ally runs only a 780m.
Terrible graphics numbers, even on Low settings 4:40 Hard pass.
it's for the iGPU on the SoC
you might wanna get a dedicated gpu for gaming
Increasing the single-core performance takes the most R&D and Apple is miles ahead in that, especially with the M4. Apple achieved this despite the clock speed remaining the same, by changing the architecture of the CPU.
This is something that Android and Windows-side chipmakers, who are often perceived as subpar, would never do because they don't tend to make any architectural changes at all, especially Intel.
These manufacturers only know how to add more cores and increase clock speed.
1:20 "Also the TOPS" AI marketing has rotted my brain
Doesn't get any more real
I'm just want this processor/APU/SOC/iGPU inside coming ROG Ally 2 ❤❤❤
Hello Dave, can you make a video breakdown of your filming setup, step by step? Because I think your filming setup is simple, unique and intuitive.
I think he talked about it in a previous video? There's like 4 4k cameras and uses that apple device while recording in OBS.
@@azurebluegames He bluntly made a cue of that in a long video that wasn't about that. That's not a full breakdown video that takes it step by step through the process. Exactly what I am looking out for.
it would be nice to cover the size and weight of the charger because that's what's always be along with the laptop.
I couldn't care less about laptops, only here to see the Strix Point in action. Anticipating when it will arrive in gaming handhelds and mini pcs
Dave, I like your battery tests. They're at least more real than most other TH-camrs.
I don't spend 11 hours looping around on TH-cam.
and of course it's a totally INDEPENDENT review with exactly the same pros and cons like a dozen big youtubers had
Great video. On your graphs please mention of lower or higher is better
Want to see what they can do once they are in handheld PCs
How its anti reflective coating? Is it comparable to apple MacBook pro level, or much worse?
When you work with texts, good anti reflective coating (or mate screen) is important factor, especially in dark themed apps...
Unfortunately it seems like a mirror, this is why I never buy a zenbook.
Thank you Apple for the competition.
Apple's competition is snapdragon , this is natural course of evolution of x86
@@somnambulist6636 Nope. He said it right. If you check before M1 and after you will see massive improvement in Intel and AMD. Snapdragon slept for 4 years.
I kinda want to see how the Business level Elitebook and ZBooks will be like with these AMD chips which came out now. Those have usually like low power 1000 nits ips panels on 1080p. That might give great battery life in total.
Who is asking for such thin laptops though? Unless you're trying to use it while walking around I cannot think of a single reason to want it to be thinner or lighter than a 14" Macbook Pro.
For a few months I had both a MacBook Air and a Pro thinking the Air might be better when I don't have a table. It was actually worse in the lap. In 2.5 months I might have used the Air for a combine 45 minutes.
I own a 14” MacBook Pro and even though I don’t like using Windows on laptops, these from Asus look promising!
Is the new chip the same as the ZChip in the Lenovo which spys on the user and sends back your data to the server?
What????
Dave is one of the youtubers I watch for years and that inspired me to start my own youtube journey!
I also want this laptop, but ain't gonna get it unless I get some subscribers first :/
It's 2024 and windows laptops still don't have a 1080p webcam across the board and no type c ports on both sides for charging 🙂. Simple things that make life easier
7:06
You customise the windows gestures to do the same
I've 4 finger swipe up/down set to volume control
2:18 stop saying "holes"
I wanna see like a 100W version (or whatever overall output of a laptop can be with this chip), like Xiaomi's Redmibook 15 Pro, and see what it's really capable of
Would you say the x86 simulations are better on AMD chips than the Snapdragon ones?
Hum... the AMD chips are X86 native so there is no emulation at all... only snapdragon needs emulation
@@azenyr oh, i thought these were arm based compared to the previous CPUs, cuz of them advertised with the new copilot pcs and extremely good battery life, thanks!
I love ur fish tank in every vid I love to see the change everytime u drop a new vid NEON TETRAS THE BEST
I have no idea what tech stuff Dave is saying but I watch him anyway cuz he’s handsome
…and saves me time. Love language. 🤝
I would say that for what they offer this is reasonably priced and they also look nice. Great Video :) !
ASUS no thank you
Why?
Garbage company with garbage products
Why
Why
After switching to macos as my main work station, I could care less about pcs getting better, mac just does it better. Ill stick to windows for games only
The laptop you've always wanted has Microsoft's AI spyware on it? Kind of shocking. Will never buy one of these.
Minor thought but I'd consider getting a foot pedal to do the camera switch you do instead of having to reach over with your arm.
"This is the year that Windows laptops finally stop sucking" - You installed Linux on them?
This statement makes no sense, if you use linux it's not a windows laptop anymore
Windows laptops have seen a significant revamp, and AMD's tech is setting new benchmarks.
Now I would really want to see a 14inch scale down version.
The 14" comes with Intel CPU.
Will you do a video on the Rog Zephyrus G16 (ga605) with this same prosessor. It is already avalible but no videos online
same