Which brake pipe flaring tool should you buy? Please read description.
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Please be advised that the tool used in this video is for SAE brake lines only. Most modern brake lines (including the Alfa Romeo GTV) are DIN so be sure to use the correct tool for your brakes lines!! These flaring tools are available for both SAE and DIN.
The exact brake pipe flaring tool used in this video is currently still available although I don’t know for how long. It can be found right here:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/332827759059
3/16 copper brake pipe can be found here:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202654585029
Brake pipe bending tool (small)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324326087652
Brake pipe bending tool (larger)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123658767598 - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Very few understand the most tools make SAE fittings, that is US vehicles and some Japanese ones. All European vehicles have ISO/DIN fittings with flat back and domed fronts. IT IS IMPORTANT to use the correct ones they are different in design. The tool used here is the SAE one that is commonly made in China and sold here on online .
Nice video. Worth mentioning operation 1 or OP1 on the tool does not do a "single flare" as you say. It's a bubble flare. I only bring it up as a single flair is a single walled female end that's only used on low pressure lines, not brakes.
Thank you for a very clear explanation on deciding which brake flaring tool to consider!
Wish I had seen this video first as it answered all the questions I had. I was going to buy the cheap version but it is obvious the one you recommend is very much better and worth the extra cost. Thanks.
This tool is awesome and simple to use. It takes no time or practice to get double flares right. I got the Titan Double Flare Tool.
Got to replace brake lines on my car after MOT failure and this really helped with my choice of tool, thanks 👍
Absolutely brilliant, thanks so much for sharing this. Exactly the proper tool for what I need, demonstrated perfectly. Cheers from the US!
Very useful video - I almost bought the wrong kit and glad i caught this video first. Cheers mate.
Great video, please keep the videos coming, love to see more of that gtv 👍
Had a real awkward pipe to replace, seen this video yesterday am, ordered the kit from Amazon prime which arrived 26 hours later (33 quid! - at local auto store 69 for same thing!) vehicle back on the road after an awkward join which would not have been possible with an inferior version. Excellent video, thank you Rick.
Brilliant. I’m glad you got it sorted and thanks for the comment 👍🏼
Great video!! This is exactly what I need right now for the brakes on my vehicles. I'm gonna buy this tool today. There's one just like it at a store here in Canada. Thanks so much!!
I got an El Cheapo version of one of these from amazon, amazed at how well it worked and was easy to do it while on the vehicle. The one I got some of my flares didn't look absolutely perfect but I noticed that since I was using 98% copper it was fine.
The cat that I came with gave me a little thing of Grease and it said to apply grease to the end of the die every time you screwed it in. I noticed yours didn't have grease but the grease would probably be a great idea as it will keep the die from wearing as fast
Excellent Video, Well explained not over complicated, Regretfully i wasted £20 on the A frame type, looks impressive tool, but only ok if one dont mind making several attempts at a flare, saw your video, bought the Blackline tool, tried it straight away when it arrived, amazing a perfect flare first time so easy, your video is certainly spot on, great stuff.
Nice video and demo, you sold me on it. Lucky as I was going to buy the first one. Also need to do it in the car so good to know you can.
Thanks Mark. Yes, the ability to use it on your car is a major bonus. Thanks for the comment and I’m glad you found the video useful. Rick
That was great. Thank you. Please will you do a video on pipe bending tools or how to bend brake pipes to suit?
When I was a kid my uncle had one of the "basic" sets (made by Snap-On) that did good flares. Fast forward 45 years and the current tools are terrible! I'm in the market for a flare tool or a kit and found this video useful. Always remember to put the nut on the line before you do the flare. It is very hard to get it on afterward! Ask me how I know!!
Excellent video - nice briefing before i replace my 330ci lines. Many thanks!
330 FT MD? Im working on one too! In a 1946 Fitzjohj Cityliner. Lots of copper lines...
Brilliant video mate. Thanks a lot.
Brilliant video well presented and informative, I'm off to the garage.
Agreed this is a great flaring tool. I use it for doing brake lines on the car. For bench work, nothing beats the Eastwood flaring tool. Large, effortless and great flares.
Man I know its an old video but it came at the perfect time for me, going through the rear rebuild on my 02 vw passat, lets just say a section of my rear needs done, 20 years and that.but really, you must've saved me hours of frustration and days of waiting on the wrong tool for the job. what a great video. thanks mate.
"Secondly, um for such a small bit of kit... um.. they're brilliant. In a word - brilliant." hehe
Thank you for the video and explanation.
Going to try to find a nicer flaring tool like you have there..
Very good video subscribed im just ordering the tool it looks very well made
awesome vid as always Rick …….ive just ordered one
Carlos Freitas thank you Sir 👍🏼. And you won’t be disappointed with it.
Like so many others Im glad I saw this before I bought one of these chocolate ashtrays, Well explained aswell mate cheers 👍
Great info, good demonstration! Thanks! I have that cheap kit , I'd say it probably ok for hobby craft , air line or kitchen stuff maybe ? But a curse for car work. I'm going to eBay immediately for a that mallet looking boy.
Tqvm sir for beautiful demonstration and good words at the end of video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thankyou great review and explanation really helped ❤
I'll be getting me both sizes of these. I've got several of the other ones and none of them do good unless you reposition the cone over and over so they don't mess up your flare. More on vehicle friendly and would help save a man's sanity as well. 😆
I recently bought the first type and I found it difficult to use getting everything in line to get a clean flare, not only that the clamping damaged the pipe with ridges. That kit will now probably rest in piece in my shed, I in all honesty couldn't sell it on and not being too expensive not worth chasing a refund. I have now bought one similar to the second one and will now try to get my job done.
Thanks you confirmed my expectations 👍👍👍
The problem with the other tool is the anvil goes crooked and then pushes the die sideways , thus misshapen flare . I think if anvil is welded so it remains at 90 degrees it would solve problem ?
Thanks for the reply
Thanks for the demo . I believe you are in the UK . Check out Steve on the Simply Diagnostics channel . I think the line you have is NI COP . Which is an alloy of about 10% Nickel and 90% Copper . There is also a small amount of steel . The Nickel gives it the corrosion resistance . Some parts stores loan that cheap tool for free . I still would not use it . In the USA , the older cars used a 45° double flare . I think many newer cars are using the bubble flair . My older cars from the 1980's have the older double flare . I saw a demo where the handle was removed and it was held in a tight spot with a 1" wrench . I think that is 25.4 MM - I don't know if there is a " spanner " in that metric size . Several companies sell that tool . I will get the one that does both flare types . I believe the line should be deburred after it is cut .
The Lisle 33260 is quite versatile too
Excellent video. My pleasure to subscribe
Good deal great videio simple simple thks for your knoledge
Thank you for the information and link you share, actually I have already the one in red box but does not work well, the one in ebay is nice flaring tool.
enjoyed the video,i'm doing a join on a dicovery brake line,which has rusted,i dont understand singl or double.what would i use them on?,thanks .
Great job. 😀😀
Thank you 😊
Cheers, perfect info to help me sort out my TVR clutch master pipes!
I bought the blackline flare tool like yours but am using nickel kunifer brake caliper and the flares aren't great?? I see a lot of videos using red grease to do each flare ( the kit comes with it ) so just wondering if you've done nickel kunifer brake pipe and how did they turn out with the blackline flare tool? Cheers 🍻
Have the same set and had the dies changed 3 times because of terrible flares ...was told to get a Franklin ..
I brought what thought was a good quality flaring kit like the manual type pictured. Blue point brand, made in USA. After many practices attempts I've descided to try something else. Its absolute junk. Thanks for posting this video.
Thank you very much
Excellent.
top video thanks mate
I would add some grease on the tool end to diminish friction.
That tools for me thanks 👍
At 9:57 he is 100% right that first kit is 100% garbage!
You can rent it for free at pretty much any auto parts store in the US and I spent about seven hours (I am extremely mechanically inclined that’s why I’m changing my own brakes) in two days trying to get the thing to work and it just doesn’t. Every time I used a brake line with it it failed and I watched around seven different videos to try to figure out what I’m doing wrong.
I finally just gave up and figured I’ll just go to a garage and pay them do it. However after watching this video I know which one to buy . It may work if you’re using that copper alloy(may work better)but I’m using 1/4 steel.
Thanks!
Thanks
what brand and where can i order this..?
I had one of those Sealey type tools, utter nightmare. I re-braked a Series 3 Land Rover with one and it was an exercise in frustration and anger. Got it done but it took many hours.
I bought the DIN and SAE Black Line type ones made by Franklin and the other by Trident. Both Made in Britain. Brilliant piece of kit. Highly recommended. Had my Defender rear brakes done in about 45 mins.
Hi Rick and thanks for great Video.Would this tool work for a Nissan Micra K11 year 2000 ? I ask because you stated that some cars use DIN while others are SAE . I wanted to check before buying if the SAE IS OK for this car.Thanks Rick just foun your Channel.
Hi Mark. I’m almost certain your car should be DIN
The habdle one: do they only do 1 size (compared to the other)?
Just a bit of advice to you all a small amount of lubricant on die will make it easier and prolong the life of the tool
hi where did you get the ream on top the black line flair tool mine never came with it
I agree, that's the one to buy no doubt. The Sealey tool at the start of the video works but the flare result you are left with is absolute rubbish in comparison.
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Gonna change the sealey type one to the hydraulic version of the other one tomorrow. Sealey type one was total rubbish. Not only were the flares crooked the also had huge burrs on the back chamfer. I think they lower the specs on those shipment by shipment.
What about stainless steel lines?
Bought a cheap kit lots of years ago no good at all for brake pipe so sold it,bought something similar to your good tool..had to do a repair on my air compressor had to by a cheap tool to fix a 6mm pipe..they sort of have a purpose ishhhh
Can you tell me if it's possible to use it for steel brake pipe..
Yes perfectly fine. I tried it in this video. Please see 7:20 in the video
No link to tool???
I have the naff kind and have been doing test flares and they are all wonky, I wasn't happy and couldn't get a good flare at all, then I found your video, considering the flare I need to do has to be right first time or I'm out of line (too many close bends for patch pieces) it needs to be right so I'm gonna buy that style tool instead of continuing with the other one! You litterely described exactly my issue so I'm confident in your guidance cheers buddy, but again, where is the link 🤬 lol.
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Thank you Sir. My apologies. Unfortunately I removed the link because the item was no longer available and the link no longer worked, sorry. There are others for sale identical on eBay
@@_RicksGarage I just found a link to a similar tool you posted as a reply to a different comment and the tool is already ordered, cheers again.....👍👌👍
Just did my brake lines on my car. Yes, Sealey is rubbish. Took multiples attempt and it was still not perfect 😕The residual fluid also pushed back the pipe back☹ You need that tool.
is the "male" fitting the same as a bubble flare (DIN)?
No, this is not a DIN flare... This is just the first stage for a double flare. This is a double flare tool only.
I believe you can buy DIN versions I saw some when looking for my SAE version.
Will the "preferred" tool do "Bubble Flares"?
Thats what he created. He didnt explain that part well at all. The first part of the bit called opt 1 is a bubble flare then you flip it to double flare it. So it does bubble flare and double flare. Which whatever he described was incorrect.
Dose this do male and femal ends of break line
Devin Paquette yes, male and female (single & double flare)
So true those cheap ones should be illegal
Where can i buy thuis link pls
Baris Atabay it was this one but the item seems to be no longer available. There are slightly different looking example on eBay which work exactly the same
www.ebay.co.uk/p/22034033277?iid=332827759059&chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=332827759059&targetid=909180616022&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007100&poi=&campaignid=10204066935&mkgroupid=101634982003&rlsatarget=pla-909180616022&abcId=1145985&merchantid=101733399&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1e_O7sSC6wIVibPtCh2RKwvHEAQYASABEgLIZfD_BwE
Unbelievable. Its about time too. Ill be throwing my old flaring tools away because that's where they belong.
Im going to try an impact gun on the die just to see how it turns out.
Why don't you just push it through the front bit instead of loosening the 10 bolts to much?
I think you used the wrong flaring tool on the steel line. If it was a metric fitting you should of used the DIN flaring tool and not the SAE flaring tool.
The DIN has a flat base under the single bubble and not a flared one as shown at 7:31 as you can see it's standing proud of the fitting and not flat. You might get away with a making that mistake with a copper pipe tho you run the risk of closing up the center of the tube as its softer but you should use the correct tool on a steel pipe.
Not sure, but sae is not the correct fitting for Alfas. It’s din version you want otherwise it won’t seal properly.
You are correct. The GTV is DIN. As the title suggests…..please read the description. I have both DIN & SAE flaring tools in my garage and I just so happened to use SAE for the purpose of this video. In hindsight, I should have used DIN to avoid confusion for my Alfa subscribers. DIN is also most commonly used on most modern cars but the video was intended as a general guide.
@@_RicksGarage have you used the sae fitting on you calipers? Just interested to know if they will seal properly?
@@AlfaGTA156 no, SAE will not seal properly. Only DIN must be used unless you replace both ends of the joint using SAE fittings.
@@AlfaGTA156 more specifically to your question……SAE will not seal properly to the Alfa Brembo Calipers
I wasted a bunch of time and brake line with that BS horseshoe flare tool until I bought this tool. Works first time every time while being simple and inexpensive!
Got the one from eBay from the same shop and it was useless hat to send it back. That are not selling the tool you have for a start it doesn’t have the blade on the top of the tool.
They have been selling that split wing nut type for 50 year's ! plus it is garbage the die have undersize steams and never from day one will do the job right . Eye believe that it's intentional the industry does not diy to fix there own brake lines. Bought 2 different one's there all the same garbage. Just end up going with premade sections and trimming off the extra in 3/16 than cut a section of 1/4 about 1 inch long and make a slip coupling and brazen it like a refrigent joint rock solid with brass rod . Of course this was a lot of year's ago the special hydraulic tool was not somthing you could get easily get nor did any one offer a simple tool that could do it right. After looking at the premade line's you could tell somthing hydraulic and precise made the flare. That split wing nut tool went across the shop at 100 mph against the wall !!!