Metabo HPT (Hikoki) My Thoughts and Brand Overview (USA) | The Good and The Bad | 2022
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I am a Milwaukee guy but ended up buying a Metabo cordless framing nailer because Milwaukee didn't have one. I've enjoyed it and they seem more affordable and just as good for what I'm doing. Since then I've picked up the 7 1/4" circ saw and picked up a free battery thru a rebate. Then I bought the cordless hammer drill and pin nailer. It's all worked great so far. Thanks for the review.
Agree, Hikoki should have been the name. I think the sticker they had on the boxes for a while "Hitachi -> Metabo HPT" would have worked so much better with "Hitachi -> Hikoki". I think it would have helped with recognition and also sounded "Japanese" enough to distinguish them from the bargain Chinese brands.
Metabo was a top of the line German company before Hitachi bought them.. Their grinders were the best in the business.. Most professional tradesmen who have been around for awhile know the Metabo name very well..
@@MarkLada - yep, I am tracking that rep. I think that naming Hitachi as Metabo HPT led to potential brand dilution for Metabo and confusion about "which Metabo is it?"
They very likely did market research and determined that the Anerican market responded significantly better to the Metabo HPT than to Hikoki. These companies usually don't just sit around and try to get sone intuitive sense of how a market will respond to a given name
Apparently, Metabo HTP /Nikoki has tested the Nokoki name in North America and He did still help as a brand name. Also, they had to pay a amount to keep the name Hitachi, so they decided to rebrand the name with Metabo HTP.
Metabo hpt just replaced two of their larger multivolt batteries and a charger for me. They also replaced the fence on my multivolt 10" sliding miter saw. I'm very happy with their customer support!
Metabo hpt is so overlooked but I would love to see more in the states! Kinda similar to Bosch tools. Great video, keep them coming!
Thank you! I plan on doing other brand videos soon.
Metabo HPT has had some killer sales. Just got the rear handle circ saw with 4.0ah battery and charger for $199 from Acme Tools. Also, their reciprocating saw (the one with UVP) is half the price of the Makita 40V Amazing deals!
Metabo HPT nailers are top notch as well as most of their other tools and the price is right!
Hitachi got changed to Hikoki and Metabo HPT because parent company Hitachi only gave ~3 years time to use the name Hitachi on them.
The powertools company that got sold was Hitachi KOKI in Japan so the name comes from there. HiKOKI, but in the North America, the name Metabo was the same as Hitachi so that got changed to Metabo HPT which is infact Hikoki Power Tools. The buyer was KKR which is an investment company that has been throwing more money in to make new and better products.
Should be noted that while Metabo HPT is literally same as HiKOKI, there is also Metabo tools in outside of US, that are nothing like Metabo HPT and are incompatible. Batteries wont fit and the tools are different. But they are owned by the same brand, KKR. For example in Germany, Metabo is very known brand.
I don't know what you mean when you say "...in north America, the name Metabo was the same as Hitachi..."
Got into this brand off of a good clearance deal and over the last year, they have become my go to brand. Obviously fell in love with the recip, lol. But also love their overall innovation (triple hammer, one handed recip takes jigsaw blades, multivolt, having an adapter to plug in tools to power, etc). They are makita and dewalt level comfortable and sturdy overall. Would like an updated jigsaw and multi tool. Very happy with the line and even got a contractor buddy switched over to using them. Really wish they would have just kept the hikoki name over here, it leads to a lot of confusion and the brand being skipped over, which is a shame because they are top tier tools
they really are fantastic tools i agree I love the circular saws as well both the 6 1/2 and the 7 1/4 👍
Definitely agree!
I couldn't understand why they couldn't give it another name why name it after another tool brand that has already been using that name.
My only wish for MHPT is like you said, continue to grow the US line. Would love to see them get into OPE. I run MHPT, DW20/12V, M12 in that order. I try to go Metabo for everything, though that's not possible at this point. Love everything I have from them. I've had to use the warranty service once, and it was ridiculously pain-free. They're definitely my Goldilocks level tools. Just wish they offered more! I've even dipped my toes into ordering some Hikoki tools from JP. They're great also. I wish they would just have named Hikoki worldwide also. But at this point, I think another name change would detract rather than attract.
Is hikoki and Metabo hpt the exact same tool? Or is hikoki made in Japan vs Metabo HPT being made in China?
@@arturob5306 EXACT same thing. Hikoki is SOLD in JAPAN and Everywhere else. MHPT is SOLD in USA. Made in China (usually) but a Japanese company. Therefore, some offerings can only be found in JAPAN under the HIKOKI name.
I am hoping to change that up a bit by buying Hikoki from Japan, I just bought some it works great on my Metabo HPT batteries.
It’s frustrating that metabo hpt is very limited. They don’t have outdoor power tools and they aren’t keeping up with the other brands such as dewalt ridgid Milwaukee makita kobalt. MHPT is a brand I want to like, but they aren’t improving their other tools like the multi tool or the hand held recip saw
@@UltimateToolReviews Anything I've got from Hikoki has been top tier stuff. Works just the same as MHPT, sometimes better. More offerings in the homeland as well. Though still not quite as much as the competition.
I really think Metabo HPT has the best batteries of any tool line. High quality Polycarbonate like makita, but with a more modern look and feel and a better latching system than any other battery out there. Plug the multi volt tech, they are just the best. I do hope they make more capacity options.
Here in Sweden HiKOKI are usually a bit cheaper compared to DeWalt, Makita and Bosch (these are kind of the main brands here), but I am very fond of them and actually like them more. And while this is at best anecdotal evidence, all my HiKOKI tools have outlasted any post 2010 Bosch tools I have had. Also batteries seem great as they seem to not loose so much power over the years
Thanks for the info!
i got 4 mv batteries from getting the subcompact drill, impact, full size drill and 36v triple hammer it was an absolute steal
It's probably the best value brand out there, highly comparable to Ridgid.
didn't talk about the rotohammers. I have both the sds plus and sds max hammer drills and they are great. Also, for concrete the metabo hpt rebar bender is the best on the market
I use Milwaukee and hikoki gear as a plumber in nz , the 36 vault gear is great, some of the other 18 vault stuff is underpowered, the best tools are like the 230grinder and the sds max drill breaker
The bonus with these tools is having the plug in option , I can turn up at a job to break out a slab , if it’s a ten minute job
Just use the battery if all day plug it in
Only have to carry the one tool awsome.
Comfort wise and specialty trade tools love my Milwaukee (but the price for Milwaukee over here is not cheap and hard to source at times
Thanks for watching!
I have the 1/2” router, first fix nail gun, 16ga nail gun,impact driver, sds max drill, 5” grinder in Hikoki the rest of my tools are Makita. I pick and choose depending on price and performance, sometimes it’s Makita sometimes it’s Hikoki
Lifetime tool warranty roughly translates to a 10-12 year warranty on average. Even when a tool is discontinued, the replacement is usually using many of the same components, even the same mold, and they don't update tools very frequently. If by some chance you buy a tool at the very tail end of it's manufacturing lifespan, you'll get 5-7 years of warranty...possibly longer depending on the tool and what model is replacing it.
Not all of their tools have a lifetime warranty. Most of their miter saws and table saws have a "5 year professional warranty." Their roto hammers and grinders have a 1 year warranty. Their batteries have a 2 year warranty.
Most of their nailers cost more than Milwaukee's, especially the 36v nailers, but including pneumatic nailers.
I don't know about a year ago, but at this point all the metabo hpt nail guns are less expensive than milwaukees equivalent guns; some of them quite a bit less. With a longer warranty. Plus they're quickly and easily repressurized with air, while milwaukee guns must be disassembled and repressurized with nitrogen
What I like the most with this brand is that theyr tools are designed to last and they are very repairable, you can buy a lot of small spare parts to repair your tools. If you have a gearbox problem with your drill for example, you can repalce the small part that is brocken instead of replacing the whole gearbox
Most overlooked brand. They are solid. The batteries could be better in more power output models. The triple hammer is my go to over Milwaukee. The Rear handle Saw I choose over the red/ yellow brands. Nailers they included batteries for the same price as milwaukee bare tool even if milwaukee is "better" not by alot I prefer batteries with tools.
Not to mention that their nail guns can be quickly and easily repressurized with air. As opposed to milwaukee guns, which must be disassembled and repressurized with nitrogen, making them effectively disposable guns for most. Dealbreaker
I have Milwaukee 12 and 18v tools . I will say the 18v metabo feels great in the hand I honestly wish I bought instead of Milwaukee
Do you know if Metabo HPT and Hikoki are exactly the same? Or is the Hikoki better because it’s made in Japan?
They are the same, batteries will work on either. Hikoki isn't all made in Japan, most is made in China.
Is the Metabo just a step up from Skil?
I got into the Metabo HPT years ago when it was Hitachi. Bought a cordless drill on sale, and it was simply the single best cordless tool I'd ever owned up to that point (had previously owned Makita, DeWalt, and Craftsman). Bought a few more Hitachi branded tools to stick with that battery platform and have added a few Metabo HPT branded items, including the 36V circular saw, which is awesome. I don't use them every day, but they have always been robust and reliable when I needed them. I love the 18/36 multivolt batteries, as it means that your 18V tools will run almost twice as long on a charge. I also wished they offered a wider variety, but overall, I've been extremely happy being a Hitachi/Metabo HPT man.
Nice!
I will add that Metabo HPT also has an A/C adapter for their multivolt tools, so you can run them corded if you run out of juice or...you know...go to use one and discover that you forgot to put that battery on the charger...not that any of us have ever done that.
Innovative and tough. Great value, especially if you wait for sales at Lowe's.
Or clearance deals. Sadly they really don’t hold value so they are very cheap on eBay.
@@UltimateToolReviews I got a lot on year-end clearance. Love it. Some of it was cheaper than consumer grade stuff.
Kind of like why I like Nissan vs Toyota. Works fine, but less perceived value, so cheaper. I think QC on Hitachi is often better than De Walt.
Hey do you have a source to buy HiKOKI in Europe. I'm looking to buy c3606dum and ship to USA
Amazon.jp
@@UltimateToolReviews that saw is not being sold in Japan. I was looking for a vendor in Europe. It's only being sold there. 36v 6 1/2" saw with a track compatible base
I rly think you cant go wrong going green with metabo hpt, I dont hate even the "bad tools" I still grab for my metabo oscillating tool more than my milwaukee m 12 or my ryobi, I agree and wish they had OPE as well I use ryobi 18v and Hart 40v for my ope but I'd rather have Metabo/Hikoki
Thank you!
ive had two pin nailers and they have not work correct and constantly jam
What brand of nails are you using?
Pin nailer is sketchy and finicky, and needs a little TLC. I initially found that 1 3/8" pins jam frequently, 1 1/4" jam occasionally, but when I switched to 1", it never jammed at all.
To get the longer pins without jams, the magazine needs to be lubricated with a silicone based nail gun lubricant. If you've been using it a lot already, it needs to be cleaned with a solvent first(These are Hitachi's recommendations).
The glue that's used in pin nails tends to rub off in the magazine because of how small they are, especially with cheaper brand nails. Pneumatic just have more power and don't really run into this problem that much.
Every hikoki tool i have used smoked the m18s i had.
dude they are much higher qality then Milwaukee or other crap now Hikoki selling new drill with 155nm bluetooth 36v witch it the most powerful tool in that line,in norway they most tool find in the stores bcz they loooooong lasting and batterys not afraid of cold some tools in there line gott ip56 water protect lewel.same in swissland ,they in first stage.i guess thei just need more comercial.i got 15 Hitachi hikoki tools some of them since 2007 still running like nothing
I have no complaints on the actual tools of Metabo…. But it’s sucks that they have a very low branch in the USA. Menards and Lowe’s both sell some of their products but it is very minimal and when you walk around other tool sections of those stores or almost any Ace Hardware, Farm n fleet, Tractor supply store, HomeDepot, Northern Tool etc…. Someone always has Dewalt or Milwaukee, Ryobi tools or even Craftsman and they have a huge selection of power tools in all of those brands… but Metabo is slim to none… you have to pretty much buy all tools online. And even then it’s not as big of choices. Makes me want to start purchasing a brand I can get almost anywhere I am in the country and not have to worry about going far away for an instant purchase.
Agreed this is a brand you want to root for but they just dont deliver when it comes to diversity. Here in the US they don’t even have a tower light, right angle impact wrench, chainsaw, weeder and a many more potential products like in other countries
can the 18yskl uc charge a 36v battery?
Yes
No it cannot, you need uc36ysl and that can also charge 18v. 18V wont fit to 36V tool but 36v will work in 18V tool as 5Ah and 2,5Ah in 36V
@@icsx the 36 volt battery is two 18 volt batteries coupled in series OR parallel, so you can use an 18 volt charger.
But it charges slower than the multivolt charger.
I think the Hikoki company speaks low about this, to sell more multivolt chargers.
@@acajutla36V charger will do this, 18V charger will not.Multivolt 36V battery works in 36V series as 2,5Ah, but in 18V thats 5Ah for the same reason you mentioned. That does not mean that the 18V charger can load 36V battery. Its just wont. Neither will the 36V tool work with 18V battery for the same reason.
@@icsx you obviously haven't tried
Hitachi has always had a special place in my heart. Old Hitachi framing nail guns are still untouchable even by modern framing nail guns. They had maybe three or four moving parts on them, they were jam free, and consistent even at a high pace of use.
Are the HPT batteries compatible with Hitachi.
Metabo is decent. Their angle grinder is shit. Takes damn 8 seconds for it to come to a complete stop.
Metabo (German power tool Co) was acquired by Hitachi then by American Investment group KKR / Hitachi Koki (Japanese Power tool Co) which was owned by Hitachi was sold to Hitachi Koki and then to HK Holdings (owned by KKR) .... these two companies (Metabo and Hitachi Koki) merged but with two different lines (Metabo & HiKoki (Hikoki outside the N American market) and Metabo HPT (in N America) .... (Metabo is still the German power tool co (now owned by KKR) with factories in Germany & China / HiKoki & Metabo HPT (now owned by KKR) are basically Hitachi power tools with factories in Japan & China) .... this is a bit confusing but I hope this breakdown helps
Thanks for the info!