Can add this to the discussion. All my 10yo Makita tools were caught in an unexpected weather event recently and were completely submerged in their plastic tubs for about 48 hours until rescued. I was devastated, and prepared to replace everything, but to my utter amazement, all the tools, batteries and eventually chargers dried out and began working again. 9 months later and all are fine and working as well as ever. I did buy a couple of new batteries and a charger just as a offering to the Makita Gods for their beneficence. Changing brands would be sacrilege for me after all that!
Interesting that you brought this up. I dropped my oldest Bosch cordless drill in a creek when I read building a bridge over it. It went completely under water and I had to go get wet to get it out. I jumped right in after it. To my amazement it just kept working. At that point it was already so old I can't even remember when I bought it. Probably was at least 7 years old at that point. It is still going strong and I have only noticed a slight decrease in battery life. I ran a drill pump with it not long ago and it did great. It came with two of the 1.5 ah batteries and a charger. I still like Makita the best though I am very fond of Bosch as well. Just wish they made more tools. Bosch is great quality for the price you can get them at! Especially for the CPO refurbished ones.
pretty much every electric tool can survive that the batteries are protected from water and shorts because of water its only the battery that gets killed the tool always survives since it gets provided the power by the battery but alot of the times the battery survives
Makita is one of the top brands. I love plenty of makita tools. I sadly recently retired my makita drills after feeling the power of a new milwaukee impact with 4 modes. But that 40v 4ah has less capacity and output capability than that 18v 12ah milwaukee battery. Facts. More volts doesn't mean more power with battery tools. Bigger batteries do, or better batteries do (on a cell level). A great for instance is that makitas own 18v 5.0ah battery and thier 40v 2.5ah battery both contain the exact same number and type of batteries, just wired differently. Also 20v and 40v type branding is legal lying. They are all 18 and 36v in actuality. I suspect eventually all the branding will swap to the 20, 40, 60 standard as the EU allowed it.
It’s funny how people get super polarised by tools like they do with politics. They are tools… every tool brand makes good tools nowadays, Makita, Milwaukee, dewalt, Bosch even ryobi! I personally have Makita and Milwaukee tools, both living harmoniously together in my packout storage. Both brands are excellent
100%. Couldn’t agree more. Many were confused when I used other brands, thinking I’m only a Milwaukee guy. I’m a good tool guy. They all have their pros and cons. It’s just east to get stuck on one platform because of batteries and chargers. I’m actually really excited to get more ryobi gear. Might make some leave the channel😂
@@AddictedtoTools id put money on there being more ryobi tools in most households because of Bunnings or home depot than there are Makita or Milwaukee tools. You’d probably increase your followers to the much larger home handiman diy crowd. Ryobi are owned by same parent company as Milwaukee, have you seen the ryobi 12v tools? M12 cousin.
@@Rockbottomsurf you arent locked into one brand, youre free to buy as many tools and batteries from as many manufacturers as you want! yeah its easier having all the same batteries but even milwaukee has 2 battery systems you can buy into on their platform. i have makita and milwaukee batteries and i have never paid for a battery they always come with the tools or are added bonuses when buying during sales. its no biggie
@@nathanc3189 of course “ locked into one brand” isn’t necessarily true but owning a number of dual port chargers for my Makita batteries makes charging and carrying chargers more streamlined. Even if I were to go to a higher voltage platform I would stick to the Makita range as not only does it save me from having a number of different batteries and chargers but I find Makita rarely has a tool that bad that I wish I didn’t get it.
@Amateur Vegan you must use them underwater lol. I am not brand loyal. I currently have Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee and a few Ryobi tools. Only batteries giving me trouble are Milwaukee. Seems to vary a lot depending on the specific model.
@@mikek5016 I’m in the uk, the makita batteries might be different because they’re the ones I’ve always had the most issues with and the only ones other then Bosch 12v I’ve ever killed completely. Never had any problems with dewalt
@@amateurvegan2636I'm in the USA Makita batteries have lasted me years beyond their warranty ! I still have Makita batteries from 5 years ago working fine
My oldest makita battery is 13 years old and just failed. They were 3.0s and never faltered in work time. I still have a few 3.0s but currently own 5.0 makita batteries along with my dozen makita power tools. Always been happy with their products since 2004
Dadi Omega. The 5 amp hour batteries are quite good. The structural engineer I do work with has some of the 5 amp hour. The battery lasts quite a while on the grinders.
I've got 2 makita 1.5ah batteries i bought with their very first impact that are over 15yrs old and still going strong. Also that 15+yr old impact wzs still going strong until it was stolen about a year ago
When tools were corded you weren’t limited to “tool platforms”. For framers, each company was known for and by specific tool groups. Best wormdrive saw, Skill. Best Saw-Zaw, drills and hole-hog, Milwaukee. Best jigsaw, power-planner, and laminate router, Bosch. Best 12” compound miter box and 10”job-site table saw, DeWalt. Best 1/2” impact and 3 horse plunge-router, Makita. Best framing gun, Hitachi. Best to horse fuel tank compressor, Emglo. All the name-brands crossing over to cordless was a smart move because it locks you in to one brand and creates repeat business on expensive batteries. I’m really surprised Skill hasn’t come up with a cordless version because Makita’s 40 V cordless can go a whole day on a framing crew without having to swap out batteries.
I use Makita, Bosch, Metabo HTP and Kobalt. It depends on the type of tool you are talking about on many of them. However, there are great tools from some brands in the same categories as well. For instance, both Bosch and Makita make great cordless sliding compound miter saws. Kobalts 7 1/2 inch cordless compound miter saw is awesome as well for it's lightweight and easy portability on a folding portable stand like the Delta stand. I favor Makita tools as well but Bosch makes some great tools as well just not as many. Kobalts are pretty good but definitely not as durable as the others. Metabo HTP's cordless tools are good for the most part but very expensive and there cordless compound miter saw is not so great. However, Metabo HTP's cordless nailers are the best and you can find deals on them at times where you get free tools with them buy purchasing another one of their tools. You pretty much have to do a lot of research watching videos and reading reviews. I do not agree that one needs to be limited by a battery platform though. I have found you can get into any of them by for instance buying a starter kit and getting a free tool if you are patient and vigilant.
There are adapters one can purchase to run Milwaukee batteries on Makita and dewalt, Makita on dewalt and Milwaukee and Bosch, dewalt on Makita and Milwaukee and etc.
@@wildechant3667You lose a ton of performance, some batteries can be killed if used with certain brands because some companies put the BMS in the tool while others put it in the battery, and some are just fire starters
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I completely agree, I had the same problem with Milwaukee, most of their high output are weak, unreliable mostly the 12.0, and the circular saw 7 1/4 fails a lot, over a year I switched to Makita 40v and its amazing, the 40v Saw its the best and I haven't had any issue with the batteries, the charger charges fast and has dual fans its just amazing
I’ve always believed Milwaukee have the best tools for electrician and plumbers, but in terms of saws for carpentry it’s been between dewalt and makita (makitas 40V is the best for saws currently)
The thing I find though as a sparky working for a company that provides all our power tools, you are right they have the most tools for us. But if I bought any of these tools myself I'd be pissed. I think so many are biased because they pay for them themselves and no way would the have bought something bad right? But seriously Milwaukee may make the most powerful tools but their tools are not reliable. Hospital build currently with 45+ guys on site in less than two years 4 of the hydraulic punch kits dead all were brand new. Countless bandsaws down And at least the gen 3 impacts and drills are terrible. They can power through plenty of stuff yes but then just completely shit the bed. When I was non union I provided my own tools and bought Makita. No regrets. Even my impact that's 12 years old now first brushless they offered, still going no issues. Even speaking with other trades whether it be the concrete formers, welders and iron workers or plumbers/fitters. All Union trades so none of us actually provide our own power tools all saying the same Milwaukee has gone so far down with reliability. They aren't meant for the hard consistent use that comes on big commercial and industrial jobs. Go figure the greenlee punch kit I now have at work that we went back to using is still going strong when it's 8 years old and the Milwaukee ones are dying every few months. Milwaukee may warranty them but it doesn't matter it's 2-3 weeks waiting for them to warranty and get them back to us that's 2-3 weeks of lost production because their $900 Punch kit that they advertise as professional grade can't stand up to doing 10 3" punches in a row without the pump giving up.
@@JoeC92 Milwaukee used to make REALLY reliable tools and you can still find 15+ year-old impacts and power drills in use on job sites, but I think more recently they might be slipping. They grew into a lot of other areas. Like, I don't remember ever seeing Milwaukee gloves or pliers, when did they start making gloves? Great gloves too, and their lineman's pliers are arguably better than Klein for less $$, but meanwhile for power tools: I'll take the DeWalt chainsaw and Ryobi for everything else.
@@gorkyd7912 100% agree. I've been with the same company for 10 years now and we never used to have the issues we have now and always been using Milwaukee. I'm yet to try the Milwaukee pliers but ditched Klein for knipex and never looked back
@Adirondack Homestead that was me for Klein tools too. Got sick of having to constantly replace screw drivers and pliers because the tips round out so quick or pliers can't cut anymore. Switched to wiha drivers and knipex pliers and no issues again. I don't get how so many can look past the lost time from broken tools and not realize the loss. The company I work for is huge, and multi trade we have a Milwaukee rep dedicated just to our company and the service still takes 2+weeks. Too much lost time I wouldn't be surprised if they switch from Milwaukee soon. Same thing happened with the rental company for boom lifts etc. Lifts the break down and then they take a week or two to come service them while still trying to charge $3000 a week in rental fees. Stopped using them and switched to one of the others that at least comes when you call them.
I'm a Makita fan due to the weight, ergonomics and reliability,I'm using gear all day and the Makita gear generally feels more comfortable in hand, less weight hanging on my belt and less downtime due to tool breakdowns. So far the only Makita tool to fail on me has been the gib screw driver
Right on deano.....makita is the lightest of them all and comfort for all day use is top scorer....all my Milwaukee sits in the draws ....always go for my makita gear first...
Makita is super reliable and cheaper overall than milwaukee. My first Makita 18V battery 3ah bought in 2012 and still works. I have M12 tool range as well though
Funny that you mention weight, one of my friends has a Makita drill and while I do agree that it does feel a bit nicer, the skin alone with no battery seems to weigh almost as much as my Milwaukee drill plus a 5Ah batter.
With the option of battery adapters now I've decided to adapt what I think is best in category to use. I have Milwaukee most but I like makita circular saw due to the dust shoot. Milwaukee jigsaw is not very good chips and frays edges when I use down cut blades so I use a dewalt .
I'm heavy into Makita now and very happy with their tools. I'm off Festool now that my vac remote stopped working 4 months in and they say they don't warranty accessories.
Thanks for the heads up. I never give money to companies like that. Charging top dollar while giving as little as possible in return. I don't care if they are the last brand on earth. I'll improvise.
Thanks for this info. I'm retooling right now, I just gave all my milwaukee tools to the contractor that just did my bathroom, he was just getting started, did a great job and probably didn't charge me enough for the bathroom so I gave him several bonuses like that and will use him again. all the makita stuff I have like the floor plainer all is plug in, I could still go either way. Great video, again thanks, I needed this right now
Ive been running 18v makita tools for about 12 years. There great, i have over 50 makita tools. The only issues ive had are with the multi tools. Ive probably had 8-10 of them iver the years. Dewalt and Milwaukee especially are SO UNCOMFORTABLE in the hand. Its like the designers and engineers never even put the tool in their hands. All my Makita tools fit my hand like a glove and give me complete confidence in the task at hand.
I’m a sparky. And always been a Milwaukee guy. But recently as my impact driver and grinder has died. I felt the new impact from makita and thought it felt way better built and comfortable to use then milwaukee so decided to jump Over and get a makita grinder and impact. Really impressed with makita quality. Potentially making a switch as my Milwaukee stuff dies.
Yeah…I’ve used makita my whole life and tried Milwaukee impacts and they just don’t feel right. And my Milwaukee buddies try my makita for certain things and say the same thing. Idk how to explain it.
@@nickrouse1738 I picked up the new Milwaukee when I was in the store and the makita impact was leaps and bounds better, lighter smoother better feel. The Milwaukee grinder I had the paddle switch has a spring in it which failed early. Just seems like a robust solid tool with relies on a cheap spring to work. Now it’s useless. I opted for the makita grinder with the toggle switch just seems bullet proof. Don’t get me wrong though I love all Milwaukees tools they’re great but just wanted to give makita a try
As someone who owns a lot of Milwaukee tools, I will say everything you are saying is 100% correct. I have way too many Milwaukee tools to completely bail on the M18 platform, but there are a lot of tools that will be replaced with the XGT. I did buy the Milwaukee traksaw, which is a great tool. But no Bluetooth dust extraction. Sometimes I feel like Milwaukee is tone, deaf to what is going on around them. I like Milwaukee but I’m feeling frustrated with them as a Company right now.
You know you have to be one of the laziest tradesman in the world when not being able to turn on your dust collector remotely is a problem that affects your work.
@@nickmilone5996 t’s not remotely it turns on automatically. And when you have a shop like I do with guys working in it that don’t always turn on the dust extraction it’s a helpful feature. Not everybody’s situation is your situation. And regardless of that fact, every other premium brand offers Bluetooth dust extraction. Milwaukee is also the same company that offers one key. And one key offers some pretty useless gimmicky features so the concept definitely isn’t beyond Milwaukee. They were just being cheap. But I’m sure Milwaukee appreciates you defending them for giving people less for and charging them more.🤦♂️
@@steffendetrick so again, lazy shop workers don't wanna turn on the piece of equipment that is literally in their hands. If your workers are that against doing their jobs then you might wanna look into Festool. Connect to their dust collector and it turns on automatically when you use your tool, perfect for this guys that can't be bothered to turn on the thing they're using.
You definitely hit the nail on the head with Milwaukee batteries, I'm heavily invested in Milwaukee and Dewalt tool, I've had 5 Milwaukee batteries that won't fully charge, and I've never had any problems with my Dewalt batteries at all, and all my batteries from both companies are the same age!! Thanks for the video, Makita is definitely the way to go, they are just a little bit too expensive for me, but they are the best tools in my opinion.
I use Milwaukee on the job. My colleague uses Dewalt. We use each other tools from time to time. I find the Dewalt tools lighter. I also like the yellow and black. All of them do a great job.
I'm come from the German tech theatre world and Makita is just the brand of choice in this world. The touring theatres have their production tool case, it's a big shop cabinet built as a road case and when they open it up, you'll see sleek black wood and a row of Makita cordless drills peaking out with their petroleum blue accents. It's just THE tool and I've always loved using them, they feel really ergonomic and confidence-inspiring.
I love you still have your original Makita drills. I still have mine from 13 years ago and both still work, even though the drill has been smoking more than a few times from mixing drywall mud. I also agree that Makita is more Carpenter focused than Milwaukee
I've spent a shit ton on Makita tools for woodworking and properties management. Always a pleasure to use them. I've also saved some money by buying their corded version like the electric planer and the miter saw which is by far my favorite tool. Even the wife gifted me the handheld vacuum and subcompact line knowing that's gonna end up being used around the house. But when I see a builder using heavy Makita tools for framing, HD renting them, and this summer saw Disney World maintenance crews using Makita at their resorts, it reinforced my choice.
I've been on the makita lxt system since I bought my first tool set back in 2013. Which is still going strong to this day. But have since been replaced with brushless models. But still get used often. My brushed impact wrench has been relegated to home use and replaced with the brushless high torque impact wrench for my work truck. My brushed recip has been replaced by the xgt 2nd gen recip on my work truck and relegated to light duty home use
After watching a certain Irish bloke repairing tools from the big major brands I got even more sold on Makita, who actually think about making them repairable without it costing more than 50% of the tool to repair.
i am a milwaukee guy through and through, i love the banter between guys on different platforms, but makita has always had my respect. Id be on that platform equally as much as I would milwaukee, but i got on the battery platform on team red when i first got in the trades
Milwaukee was purchased by some conglomerate that have many brand names under their control so you buy only the name . On the other side Makita is independent . The same with Hilti .
I'm mainly a Makita guy but certain tools they make are over priced IMO, I have a corded Dewalt job sit table saw, Ridgid Jointer, Dewalt Planer, Bosch Miter saw, Craftsman cordless 18g nailer, as well as a Craftsman cordless 7 1/4 miter saw, as far as Corded tools I buy the best bang for the buck and go craftsman for cordless tools that cost to much in the Makita line
You (the customer) cannot win these days. Milwaukee are decent tools but could suffer from reliability, Makita are reliable but I think many of their XGT tools are way too overpriced.
bloody hell..my local tool store had a sale recently and was contemplating between Makita xgt 6 pce kit for $3100 or the hikoki 36v 10pce kit for $2200.... eventually went with hikoki....but still in the back of my mind I some how I do think Makita is better built....knowing myself I'm going to buy into Makita even with the next sale...love tools as a collector.....
Thats why i got Bosch Pro for everything in my home. I am no Tradie in any form, but the quality is for me the best, and you get some nice bonuses from Bosch. I Bought a tool set with SDS Plus Hammer Drill and an Drill for 329€, but you can get additional things from a programm called "Pro360". For the set i bought, i got an additional Impact 1/2" Impact Driver and two 5 amp 18v batterys for free. That and i can walk in the Bosch Shop a town over, drop of my defect machine and get a replacement right there. And Bosch startet AmpShare, a system for share batterys over different tool companies
This video is perfectly correct…a wise choice..not just a brand slave…change when its favor you more to solve the problem….many just read the spec etc. but the real worker on their own field knew which brand to choose for the ergonomic and conveniency…for example which one would fit the tight space better etc.
Another great video thank you. Makita have been top notch gear forever and before I started my plumbing apprenticeship in 1975 at 15 years old. They always set the standard for the others to achieve.
What an absolute load of crap There are several Milwaukee tools that leave makita for dead There are some makita tools better than Milwaukee To say makita is the one setting the standard is garbage Give me the Milwaukee angle grinders over makita any day and their impact drivers and impact wrenches and grease guns Would go makita for their saws is about all Makita impact drivers are nicely balanced but Milwaukee grunt kills them
Not true Makita has always been behind Dewalt and Milwaukee in innovation. Not to mention no high output batteries for the 18 volt line.their impact drivers do not cut it if you're driving big fasteners. I have their cordless track saw which I like except battery life is not great thanks to outdated technology.
A major plus for makita is that they are more wildly available on the second hand market. Cash Converters generally have multiple shelves full, rather than just a sprinkling of bosch or Milwaukee.
Makita is a great brand I still have battery and drill that are ni-cad 14.4 and 18v. Don't really use them but they're my first kits I ever bought. Now I have all milwaukee mainly because in my area Makita doesn't have as much tools that you can pickup same day. Nowadays they're all good just get the ones that fit more comfortable in your hands.
I spent a decade doing similar work, larger scope interior focused remodeling, which almost always includes a decent amount of cabinetry and finish trim work, before finding my current specialty. These types of remodels are so broad in scope they have the widest requirement for power tools compared to more narrowly focused trades. That makes these types of outfits very good judges on tool platform choices. They regularly use such a wide variety of equipment ranging from hammer drills for light concrete and tile demo to fine finish tools like track saws and and routers. I’m sure this guy has lots of secondary tools they use often but not every job
Marc. I'm a plasterer by trade. Although I had to diversify to cover many aspects in the building trade simply to remain in work. I have tool boxes for bricklaying, concreting, carpentry, plastering, ceiling fixing, tiling. I did maintenance work such as using demolition hammers. Moving into the battery range. I do wish to purchase a cordless mid size sds max demolition hammer. I have the metabo 18 volt sds plus rotary hammer. Its pretty good. I did have a 36 volt metabo4 amp hour.It got stolen along with other tools.So I replaced. Yes, I'm also a tool person. It did get me work however. I get asked can you do this? I say yes I can. Sometimes I don't know how. I figure a way and just do it .
I’m an electrician in the UK and have always used Makita as it what my dad favoured when I worked for him. Dewalt is popular here but never owned any dewalt purely because it’s yellow, I have always felt thieves are like bugs and go for the brightly coloured stuff first. The first makita LXT combi drill I bought when I went on my own in 2008 has just shit itself, 16 years of trouble free daily service is pretty good if you ask me.
You make some valid and great points. I switched from DeWalt about 4 yrs ago and have went strictly Milwaukee. Overall I am happy. However the Mitersaw, lack of AWS and issues with 12ah batteries have dimmed my excitement as of late.
For miter saws I just love Bosch's cyborg arm. For the money it's the most robust system to counter deflection I've seen. Even better than those new arm style saws that have tried to copy bosch have done an inferior job. Mine survived a car crash and still slices and dices. The truck didn't fare as well, (I was not there). It's an older plug in model. I don't think for bigger tools I want battery power, I want robust power, quality dust collection, and dust collection that can turn on automatically with any tool I plug into it. Plus I don't want to get stuck waiting to charge. Not sure what your issue is with the milwaukee 12ah? I've never had problems with them other than taking forever to charge. But that's because you need rapid chargers for the big batteries. Heck if I was using 12ah ones a lot I would consider the supercharger. It charges a 12ah in 1 hour. Capacity wise, the m18 12ah has more capacity than the makita 40v 4ah. It's like a 40v 6ah battery.
EXTREMELY HELPFUL! Thanks. As serious DiYer with limited budget who does stuff for friends in exchange for buying a relevant tool, this was perfect. I've been very impressed with my 4Amp Milwaukee drill driver pack so considered going Milwaukee for more gear. But love my Makita corded saws. Think I'll go 40V Makita tracksaw etc - matches what I do
Thanks. I have a Makita corded circular saw with an accessory that lets it work on track, so I have a piece of Makita track already. I also have some homemade tracks up to 8' / 2440mm that work very well with my 230mm blade Makita circular saw.
I switched from Milwaukee to Dewalt because I had problems with the first three fuel tools I bought and shocking aftersales. Dewalt have been more reliable for me as a carpenter & joiner but I think Makita are good enough also.
Dewalt is pretty tough and reliable but they aren't as refined as Makita. They are quite rough really. Makita tools are silky smooth to use and often times lighter and more compact. And as far as reliability goes, they are at the top. The red tools aren't very reliable from what I've seen. I run both Makita and Dewalt, but I'm finding when a tool needs replacing I'm reaching for the Makita.
@@AddictedtoTools it is funny how milwaukee releases go. After the pipeline events in the us some tools we get super fast (M12 nibbler) some much later (track saw) some never!
If you can handle the price the Makita miter saw has a crazy good design compared to most. The slider is nowhere near as awkward and takes up half the bench space because it is side mounted not rear mounted. I think, with a few exceptions, Makita seems to put more effort into the design process of their tools.
I have had 5 milwaukee batteries die within the 1st year. Small business, I can't wait a month to run a tool. Makita is my tool of choice. I have never had a makita battery die. My Makita miter saw 36v did die this year, but it was 5 years old. I love that miter saw, so it's being rebuilt now.
@RuBrasil absolutely I still have yet to have one fail. I have a couple dozen, and I use them every day. Some are 6 months old, and some are 6 years old, and I can't tell the difference when I run them.
At my workplace majority of gear is Milwaukee and very few makita, biggest problem with Milwaukee is the way the battery connnects to tools. Our tools cop an absolute flogging, after time the Milwaukee tools don't attach to the batterys as well and power cuts out. Long term Makita any day of the week.
Same here, Milwaukee have very powerful tools that kills the batteries earlier than expected. I love my Milwaukees but now almost always order makita ones just because the electronics in tools and batteries make it last forever. For example I made a very aggressive use of grinder to cut and polish rocks, this cause i have to order 2 or 3 batteries per year! Makita 40V the battery have more than 18 months, the tool have a special sensor that slows down the tool when battery is too hot to don't damage the battery. I save several hundred dollars with makita compared to Milwaukee. And Inlove Milwaukee ❤ but they are far behind in battery management.😢
Residential electrician and I use M12 tools and Makita 18v. Makita has a way larger tool line for the 18v platform. Going to be investing in Makita 40v tools soon.
I use to be Anti-Makita for absolutely no reason other then that I used all Milwaukee. I tried my friends Makita because my Milwaukee died, and WOW!!!!!!! I sold all my Milwaukee gear and switched to Makita. I find Milwaukee to be like an old muscle car, and find Makita to be a refined super car. Makita doesn’t seem to be powerful, but that is because I use to associate power with tons of vibration. Makita has power, but made it run smooth and efficient without shaking my bits off like Milwaukee. I’m glad I can now finish a day of work and still feel my fingers 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This is important and rarely a factor for all these power videos. Ergonomics , esp for smaller hands/ less strength is important. You might be a bear in your youth, but as you get older all those repetitive strains matter.
Woodpecker makes a tool you can attach to the track of your saw for repeatable cuts, you can also cut thin strips with it, basically replacing a jobsite table saw for ripping boards.
I run 18V Makita and 12V Milwaukee. Makita drills have constantly let me down but maybe I asking too much from them using holesaws although there was one model that was fundamentally flawed which many people I knew had the same problem. Anyway, apart from that I have flogged the Makita’s and they are great. You are correct in regards to Makita being better for carpentry as every Chippy I know runs Makita and/or Festool.
I use MAKITA. I'm a fan of Japanese engineering and I appreciate the lack of hype! Nowhere on a makita box will you find the word EXTREME, as far as I know. Bought my first white brushed makita 18v drill driver set about 20years ago with 1.5ah batteries! Since then I've added other brushed and brushless tools and batteries including another drill driver set, grinder, circ saw, jig saw, router, recip saw, vacuum, and something else I can't remember. In that amount of time I've never had a makita tool fail. I only had one of the original 1.5ah batteries die. The original drill needs anew chuck. I started as a home user but have used these tools in my boat building career for the last 6 years. Stuff is bullet proof. ✌🏼
At work we have Milwaukee tools provided, we have a pile of tools and batteries called Milwaukee mountain that have failed, everything from failed batteries, drills,1/2 impacts, 3/4 impacts.. will NEVER buy Milwaukee for my self, still using the batteries I got with my first dewalt cordless drill as a first year apprentice 12 years ago. (Broke the tool, no fault of the tool whatsoever) still using dewalt and just invested in the new flexvolt range. 👌
Started on Makita but went to Milwaukee about 12-13 years ago as they had a good deal I couldn't refuse. I still have the original battery. I agree as plumber Milwaukee has some products that work better e.g. the new 12v sump pump and the 12v small tools as they fit into tight places. Also to note the 12v vacuums that fit into the hammer drills are pretty cool as they fit into tricky spots. But def the power advantage with Makita plus the bluetooth would be cool. But it all depends on the type of work your doing. I just hate how you have to lock into one product. Pick what works and don't be afraid to look at new things or think differently. Also I like the idea of the coffee machine Makita does, I could def do with that in the tool box.
I started on Makita, because I brought the pink drill. No man in my family will steal it, because they clearly see its pink and it's mine 😂 Then came the mini trimmer and vacuum...and now I am hooked. Going to get the orbital sander next.
I install windows and doors and use Makita 18v and dewalt 50/50 . The Makita impacts hands down destroy all others but I do prefer the dewalt 7 1/4 battery mitre saw that I use to cut trim and simply use a 9 ah flexvolt battery on .
Carpenter from Europe here, I use Makita but still the older 18 V LXT lineup. The batteries are not as modern as the new XGT batteries but they seem to live almost for an eternity. I still use 5 batteries from my first batch in late 2015, they are still working perfectly. Meanwhile I have a lot of newer machinery but they still work fine with the old batteries.
You said it best. For the service type trades, Milwaukee and even dewalt are kings. Makita however, still has better quality, better suited tools for woodworking/builder applications. That said, my first combo kit was makita and I haven’t bought any other brand since, once you have so many batteries or a well established set of tools it’s hard to switch so I’ve learned to live with some of the quirks of the mechanic based tools makita offers. I’ll be going with something like Greenworks for EGo for my lawn tools though.
The funny part is I'm a tow truck operator and I carry only makita on my work truck. Makita tools have never let me down. I carry a makita drill, impact wrench and recip saw in the lxt platform. I also carry the 2nd gen xgt recip saw on my truck as well
When I first started carpentry I started with all Dewalt because everyone else had makita. Then I made the change and it was for better. Makita may not be the strongest but they sure are the smoothest and quietest tools.
Bosch are under power but even smoother than makita . Especially when using their better stuff . I rate there drill Especially I don't own one but the one's I've used in the past felt better than drills twice the price.
I did the same fron Red to Teal last year, never regret this decision! However, I kept some M12 tools, and now I'm mixed with Makita, Milwuakee, Hikoki, DeWalt, Bosch and recently the new addition is Festool.
I have makita xgt, switching from Milwaukee. I find the fit and finish of makita xgt much better. The track saw and miter saw are extremely smooth and the xgt is handy with the battery vac.
Great video. I am on a few of the battery platforms. I would say that you will probably want a table saw when it comes to fix out depending on how detailed your job is. All the best with it!
I’m on the Milwaukee and makita xgt platforms, I can’t honestly say I could be on either platform fully! The Milwaukee 16 and 18g and framing nailers are phenomenal and they have tools that xgt just don’t make yet. I have the xgt mitre saw, 190mm saw, combo drill and impact, recip saw, planer and track saw that Milwaukee just don’t compete with
I expect them to DeWalt tools going from Porter-Cable junk essentially saved up earned it bought it bought the kits when they had the battery included or multiple batteries and chargers etc been running for about 5 years now non-stop Trim carpentry rough carpentry beam work you name it and it's been going non-stop however DeWalt makes really poor nailers in the cordless range so I use battery adapters from Amazon and been running those for about that long too for my Milwaukee nail gun Brad nailer and 15 gauge by dewalt batteries are still going strong they have never had an issue They seem to have a better system and backup system One thing I have noticed is a lot of people that use Milwaukee on the job site They have battery issues also the bearings go out on their tools especially the impacts and the drills and the same goes with Makita The batteries go out especially if it's cold they do not like cold at all My DeWalts will run in the cold No problem I also was smart about it and built a battery box with two chargers so that when I'm charging my batteries it's also an insulated box it's got two fast chargers inside and then I bought Amazon battery lockers to go on the walls of the inside the box so roughly I have 15 batteries ranging from 5 9 ampere hours 3 6 amp your hour several 2.5 and and a few fives I never have a problem with it I would like to get a 12 amp per hour but I think I'm just going to go with the cheaper brands the knockoffs and see how they do if not then I've only lost maybe a hundred bucks and I can get them replaced versus paid $250 a battery or $375 for a 15 amp I do plan on getting a 23 gauge Makita and then getting a battery adapter so I can use my batteries it's all the same voltage 18.6 volts the whole systems are
Really excellent review, man!! I’m a tradesman of a different stripe, not carpentry but airplane mechanic. Love to All tradespeople. You broke everything down really well, and I learned a useful chunk about carpentry and stayed interested even though it’s not my normal thing, very well done. I’ll echo that all modern tools are Great, from Ryobi on up. I’ve got a 7yo Ryobi 12v drill that was 50 bucks, and it was basically faultless the whole 3yrs that it was my only drill. Durable, plenty of power for mechanicking, batteries last forever, better trigger than my newer brushless big brand drill, can’t say enough good about that Ryobi. So All the modern stuff is great. Pick a platform and go to town. That said, it looks like for carpentry, Makita is on the ball.
I went Milwaukee last year have had a couple issues with a battery and circ saw and been eyeing off Makita 40v range lately however the worst problem with Makita is no framing nailer. I'm a handyman so I need just about everything
What circ saw problem? Mine had bad trigger problems. Worked intermittently which was painful. Nail guns have been a let down from makita. Not sure they haven’t kept up. I’ve been loving all the Milwaukee nailers. Cheers for the feedback👌
Hit the nail on the hand at 6:20 with your statement “what work are you doing and what finished product do you need?” Blows my mind watching the average house husband shelling out $500 USD for the newest Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, Flex etc and then to overhear he’ll be using it to put small screws into drywall anchors to hang pictures. Most people not in the handyman, construction, blue collar trades industry *do not ever need* to care about brand for day to day house work. The professional framer who drives structural screws all day long definitely cares which impact driver, rotary drill, or impact wrench drives the quickest and easiest and which battery runs longest and best on it. As a PSA, please stop buying top of the line gear for household DIY stuff. You can get the cheapest most off brand piece of crap on the market and it will do the job of hanging those pictures just fine.
Hi, I have worked installing pipework in underground mining for years and am currently back to surface boilermaker/fitter work, we use Milwaukee, we hammer it. The batteries always get loose and the connection becomes intermittent, especially on the 12AH ones. We would go through a 3/4 rattle gun probably once every two months, it seems they need a more substantial contact point and stringer rails for the batteries to slide on.
I first started using a cordless drill, Makita, in 1989. Then got a Dewalt then back to Makita. I use to think it was a good idea to only run on one platform and back then it was a good idea but now I run four platforms for different reasons. I really see no reason to run only one and only one. The only downside is you need multiple chargers which for me isn't a big deal. Each maker has their strengths and weaknesses so I just take advantage of multiple companies strengths and don't bother with the weak stuff.
@@jairoguzman4631 No, I haven't. I don't have any need for an adapter. I've got batteries for all four systems. In fact just a few days ago I got back into Dewalt so that now makes it 5 platforms.
I'm the same way. I've got M18, M12, LXT, and XGT. Doesn't bother me as much as most people to drag a few extra batteries around. I do use mostly Milwaukee for work (electrician), and mostly Makita for home use (woodworking, general construction, etc). However I mix and match plenty, and always prefer to be able to choose between each platform for each tool, and get the highest quality.
The thing with makita is they didn’t jump on any crazy bandwagons too quickly. It took them forever to change voltage, and update their platform. They don’t flood the stores where I live like Dewalt, and some others, and especially not their professional level gear. I use a lot of dewalt, because it’s cheap for the performance I get. Always sales on tools, and batteries everywhere, and that makes it a no brainer. Usually can get a pair of 5Ah batteries for $150 Cdn when the good deals come on. I recently bought the flex volt 60v circular saw, with a 9ah and charger included for $400 total. The thing is incredible, for such a cheap price. Im not opposed to having other tools that work better than dewalt either. The Milwaukee 23gu headless pinner is amazing. Dewalt’s was bulkier, and had nail jams….haven’t had a single jam in the Milwaukee yet. The 40v makita platform looks really thought out, but I have already made the investment. Dewalts new miter saw only takes one battery now, has more power, and runs longer than the old flex volt version that required two batteries. If I was just starting out, makita would be on the table for sure. All my old corded makita gear is about as solid feeling as it gets. Best hand planer, and belt sander ever created in my opinion. Hopefully they can punch through the yellow, and red that has flooded the market already.
Nice one! Adding another better platform hurts initially when buying new batteries and chargers, but it also frees up existing batteries for those other branded tools, and more importantly opens up a whole new range of tools to cater to ones needs. Let the tool choice dictate the battery, not the other way around.
Excellent comparison! As a Milwaukee bigot I have to say you were spot on with your comparison overview. I have over 30 M12 and M18 tools, plus 20+ Packout boxes and bags. So I’m committed and for the most part very satisfied. Milwaukee builds some excellent tools! However, I believe they’ve missed the mark with their new vacuum line, which looks excellent. Not having BlueTooth connectivity between vac and tools is a major miss. How the hell could that even happen?
And lack of dual power is also a huge miss. Having to ONLY use battery power or not having passive charging is such a stupid idea for such an expensive tool
@@michaelrjacobs , it’s simple…instead of having to reach down to turn the vacuum on prior to starting the circ saw or miter saw or whatever tool, Bluetooth from the tool sends a signal to the vacuum, automatically turning the vacuum on. After the trigger on the saw or tool is released the vacuum turns off. If your making a lot of cuts it would be really nice to “not” have to reach down each time to turn the vacuum on and off. With Bluetooth connectivity you never have to worry about forgetting to turn the vacuum on or off. It’s just a very convenient technology that I’d like to see Milwaukee incorporate in their tools and vacuums.
I’m a Milwaukee guy till I die! Even though most everything is the same drills,impacts,batteries, grinders,lights,saws & sawzalls. I don’t think there’s any difference in brands until you get into specialty tools where each company has their bread & butter!
I've had Makita drills since 1987, although I bought a number of Ryobi tools between around 2005 and 2015 as their line expanded quicker and at a lower price point. The past few years, I've gone back to Makita with the LXT platform, and I love them. I'm hoping the XGT platform doesn't result in them phasing out the LXT line. 😬🤞
@@pablosetien5548 Makita is made in about 13 places, not just China. They have specs they have to meet in China. Most tools are made there. Makita is still the best overall quality
I have a couple of small and big Makita saws and always really liked them. Deciding which tool to buy these days is almost as bad as buying a used car. So stressful!Unless you have loads of money and can buy anything you want.
The Milwaukee carpentry gear is definitely good. I’m also surprised that makita haven’t uped their game with the table saw and nailer. I grabbed the Milwaukee framing, finishing, and pin nailer. They’re awesome!
Makita has been lacking with their nail guns for awhile. I feel like they didn't want to release one unless it was better than a Paslode. I'm waiting for their table saw
Milwaukee has always been marketed towards the electricians & plumbers. They were best known for inventing the recipro(Sawzall) and the best corded drills. Especially compact right angle high torque used for 4” hole saws. All the of the plumbers in the States have them.
My first platform was Ryobi (in EU), but they have so expensive and big batteries, that I want to change it. So I change to DeWalt and for now it;s really brilliant and really much greater than Ryobi (you can feel the difference). But its funny that people say "only makita!" or "only milwaukee!". C'mon... Of course it's expensive to get two systems, because you have to buy a lot of batteries and chargers, but sometimes it's worth it because one tool in milwaukee can be a crap but the same tool in makita is brilliant. So as you said - just pick up what you need and try to find platform where your daily tools will be the best
May I suggest EGO for Garden Tools. Use a different line for shop tools. I’ve used Hitachi/(now Metabo) for ten years, but Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bausch all have followers, the important thing is the quality of the battery line you’ll be marrying. Brushless (Neodymium magnet) is very important for both torque, runtime, and spark non-generation.
All the company platforms go through cycles where they focus on a particular market and others get left behind opening the door for others to innovate and jump over them. I have more Makita corded tools than anything, however I started with DeWalt 18v XRP nicad as they seemed to most committed to the platform. With Lithium Ion hit the market, I stayed with DeWalt but they were late to the game with some tools so found myself now back in Makita LXT as well. I even have Bosch 18v batteries mainly because they hands down make one of the best 18v sanders out there. The only one that comes close is festool and that's at 3x the price. If your a Milwaukee fanboy, where was the track saw all these years?? There is no way I would have waited this long to buy one, I actually started with Festool TS55 and went to the Makita X2 for cordless over 4 years ago. The bottom line is stay within your system when you can to get the most value of your battery investments but sometimes the best tool might be outside your existing system and if it's one you will use a lot, it makes sense to be open to going outside your system.
Meanwhile I have my hands on Bosch, Hikoki, Milwaukee and Makita gear. I promise it's not commitment issues, but Makita just seems to have the best offerings for gardening\groundskeeping equipment, Hikoki had the strongest nail gun offerings at the time although Milwaukee's newest nailers look more compelling than their gen1's. The list goes on
Good overview vid on your tools with your valid points to consider 👍 Now, I was scanning your reno works and its looking good. I see you've gone hard core and put a steel beam in for a solid decent span, nice one. Lots of sun light bouncing around too since the Veluxs have gone in. Are you going soft close on your cavity doors?, I'm thinking of converting my past reno works to soft close now. Looking forward to your next reno updates...maybe before Xmas? Cheers, I'm enjoying ya channel ☺️
Cheers mate. Yeah I’m going to do an overview video next I think. Run through everything and what’s happening. I hadn’t thought of soft close on the doors. Might look at that👌
As a Plumber working in underground services I need high powered big gear, breakers, grinders, concrete cutters, largest air blowers, strong suction vacs, water pumps, and I have to admit I’m disappointed with Milwaukee. I have gone from Dewalt to Milwaukee, with approximately 16k worth spent on Milwaukee I’m very keen to transition to Makita… they got some amazing gear.
Around 8 years ago I switched from Makita to Milwaukee… I have 18 V and 12 v, but my 18 v batteries (4/5) stopped to charge after only one year of usage, and they look brand new from outside, but actually they are both dead or they are in sleep state! But the 12V battery is still in good condition, I believe Milwaukee 12v line is better than the 18V!! I believe 18 V from Bosh, and Festool are as good as Makita 18v…and the most underrated brand is AEG!!!
In the EU, Milwaukee is more expensive and when you need a tool, they’re always scarce. You have to shop around online vendors. It’s annoying. Makita is always a safe bet anywhere.
Can add this to the discussion. All my 10yo Makita tools were caught in an unexpected weather event recently and were completely submerged in their plastic tubs for about 48 hours until rescued. I was devastated, and prepared to replace everything, but to my utter amazement, all the tools, batteries and eventually chargers dried out and began working again. 9 months later and all are fine and working as well as ever. I did buy a couple of new batteries and a charger just as a offering to the Makita Gods for their beneficence. Changing brands would be sacrilege for me after all that!
Interesting that you brought this up. I dropped my oldest Bosch cordless drill in a creek when I read building a bridge over it. It went completely under water and I had to go get wet to get it out. I jumped right in after it. To my amazement it just kept working. At that point it was already so old I can't even remember when I bought it. Probably was at least 7 years old at that point. It is still going strong and I have only noticed a slight decrease in battery life. I ran a drill pump with it not long ago and it did great. It came with two of the 1.5 ah batteries and a charger. I still like Makita the best though I am very fond of Bosch as well. Just wish they made more tools. Bosch is great quality for the price you can get them at! Especially for the CPO refurbished ones.
Brushless tools are almost guaranteed to work after being wet. As long as you let them dry before use.
Keep a close eye on those batteries though. Probably not a bad idea to store them somewhere they won’t pose a fire hazard.
pretty much every electric tool can survive that the batteries are protected from water and shorts because of water its only the battery that gets killed the tool always survives since it gets provided the power by the battery but alot of the times the battery survives
@@FishBaitBlue … fair
point. Though 18 mths later all still going strong.🤞🤞🤞
Makita has been by my side helping me do the work for 40 years. Great tools!
Makita is one of the top brands. I love plenty of makita tools. I sadly recently retired my makita drills after feeling the power of a new milwaukee impact with 4 modes.
But that 40v 4ah has less capacity and output capability than that 18v 12ah milwaukee battery. Facts.
More volts doesn't mean more power with battery tools. Bigger batteries do, or better batteries do (on a cell level).
A great for instance is that makitas own 18v 5.0ah battery and thier 40v 2.5ah battery both contain the exact same number and type of batteries, just wired differently.
Also 20v and 40v type branding is legal lying. They are all 18 and 36v in actuality. I suspect eventually all the branding will swap to the 20, 40, 60 standard as the EU allowed it.
It’s funny how people get super polarised by tools like they do with politics. They are tools… every tool brand makes good tools nowadays, Makita, Milwaukee, dewalt, Bosch even ryobi! I personally have Makita and Milwaukee tools, both living harmoniously together in my packout storage. Both brands are excellent
100%. Couldn’t agree more. Many were confused when I used other brands, thinking I’m only a Milwaukee guy. I’m a good tool guy. They all have their pros and cons. It’s just east to get stuck on one platform because of batteries and chargers. I’m actually really excited to get more ryobi gear. Might make some leave the channel😂
@@AddictedtoTools id put money on there being more ryobi tools in most households because of Bunnings or home depot than there are Makita or Milwaukee tools. You’d probably increase your followers to the much larger home handiman diy crowd.
Ryobi are owned by same parent company as Milwaukee, have you seen the ryobi 12v tools? M12 cousin.
Get polarised by the fact you get locked into one brand once you’ve got their batteries.
@@Rockbottomsurf you arent locked into one brand, youre free to buy as many tools and batteries from as many manufacturers as you want! yeah its easier having all the same batteries but even milwaukee has 2 battery systems you can buy into on their platform. i have makita and milwaukee batteries and i have never paid for a battery they always come with the tools or are added bonuses when buying during sales. its no biggie
@@nathanc3189 of course “ locked into one brand” isn’t necessarily true but owning a number of dual port chargers for my Makita batteries makes charging and carrying chargers more streamlined.
Even if I were to go to a higher voltage platform I would stick to the Makita range as not only does it save me from having a number of different batteries and chargers but I find Makita rarely has a tool that bad that I wish I didn’t get it.
I have also had Makita tools.35 years as a finishing carpenter.18 volt and corded.soon will move on to 40 volt platform.Good review👍👍👍
Agree with the batteries 100%. Makita batteries have been bulletproof for me. I have 10-year-old batteries that just won't die.
Makita are the very worst imo!
@Amateur Vegan you must use them underwater lol. I am not brand loyal. I currently have Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee and a few Ryobi tools. Only batteries giving me trouble are Milwaukee. Seems to vary a lot depending on the specific model.
@@mikek5016 I’m in the uk, the makita batteries might be different because they’re the ones I’ve always had the most issues with and the only ones other then Bosch 12v I’ve ever killed completely. Never had any problems with dewalt
@@amateurvegan2636I'm in the USA Makita batteries have lasted me years beyond their warranty ! I still have Makita batteries from 5 years ago working fine
I’ve been in Makita for years because of the batteries and the chargers.
My oldest makita battery is 13 years old and just failed. They were 3.0s and never faltered in work time. I still have a few 3.0s but currently own 5.0 makita batteries along with my dozen makita power tools. Always been happy with their products since 2004
Dadi Omega. The 5 amp hour batteries are quite good. The structural engineer I do work with has some of the 5 amp hour. The battery lasts quite a while on the grinders.
Makita is the best
I've got 2 makita 1.5ah batteries i bought with their very first impact that are over 15yrs old and still going strong. Also that 15+yr old impact wzs still going strong until it was stolen about a year ago
I'm still running a 3amp from my Makita kit I bought in 2009 👌
When tools were corded you weren’t limited to “tool platforms”. For framers, each company was known for and by specific tool groups. Best wormdrive saw, Skill. Best Saw-Zaw, drills and hole-hog, Milwaukee. Best jigsaw, power-planner, and laminate router, Bosch. Best 12” compound miter box and 10”job-site table saw, DeWalt. Best 1/2” impact and 3 horse plunge-router, Makita. Best framing gun, Hitachi. Best to horse fuel tank compressor, Emglo.
All the name-brands crossing over to cordless was a smart move because it locks you in to one brand and creates repeat business on expensive batteries. I’m really surprised Skill hasn’t come up with a cordless version because Makita’s 40 V cordless can go a whole day on a framing crew without having to swap out batteries.
is a universal battery for all brands possible? XD
I use Makita, Bosch, Metabo HTP and Kobalt. It depends on the type of tool you are talking about on many of them. However, there are great tools from some brands in the same categories as well. For instance, both Bosch and Makita make great cordless sliding compound miter saws. Kobalts 7 1/2 inch cordless compound miter saw is awesome as well for it's lightweight and easy portability on a folding portable stand like the Delta stand. I favor Makita tools as well but Bosch makes some great tools as well just not as many. Kobalts are pretty good but definitely not as durable as the others. Metabo HTP's cordless tools are good for the most part but very expensive and there cordless compound miter saw is not so great. However, Metabo HTP's cordless nailers are the best and you can find deals on them at times where you get free tools with them buy purchasing another one of their tools. You pretty much have to do a lot of research watching videos and reading reviews. I do not agree that one needs to be limited by a battery platform though. I have found you can get into any of them by for instance buying a starter kit and getting a free tool if you are patient and vigilant.
no no no no on the internet u can only fanboy one brand, not muktiple@@realpatriot5896
There are adapters one can purchase to run Milwaukee batteries on Makita and dewalt, Makita on dewalt and Milwaukee and Bosch, dewalt on Makita and Milwaukee and etc.
@@wildechant3667You lose a ton of performance, some batteries can be killed if used with certain brands because some companies put the BMS in the tool while others put it in the battery, and some are just fire starters
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I completely agree, I had the same problem with Milwaukee, most of their high output are weak, unreliable mostly the 12.0, and the circular saw 7 1/4 fails a lot, over a year I switched to Makita 40v and its amazing, the 40v Saw its the best and I haven't had any issue with the batteries, the charger charges fast and has dual fans its just amazing
I’ve always believed Milwaukee have the best tools for electrician and plumbers, but in terms of saws for carpentry it’s been between dewalt and makita (makitas 40V is the best for saws currently)
The thing I find though as a sparky working for a company that provides all our power tools, you are right they have the most tools for us. But if I bought any of these tools myself I'd be pissed.
I think so many are biased because they pay for them themselves and no way would the have bought something bad right?
But seriously Milwaukee may make the most powerful tools but their tools are not reliable.
Hospital build currently with 45+ guys on site in less than two years 4 of the hydraulic punch kits dead all were brand new.
Countless bandsaws down
And at least the gen 3 impacts and drills are terrible. They can power through plenty of stuff yes but then just completely shit the bed.
When I was non union I provided my own tools and bought Makita. No regrets. Even my impact that's 12 years old now first brushless they offered, still going no issues.
Even speaking with other trades whether it be the concrete formers, welders and iron workers or plumbers/fitters. All Union trades so none of us actually provide our own power tools all saying the same Milwaukee has gone so far down with reliability. They aren't meant for the hard consistent use that comes on big commercial and industrial jobs.
Go figure the greenlee punch kit I now have at work that we went back to using is still going strong when it's 8 years old and the Milwaukee ones are dying every few months.
Milwaukee may warranty them but it doesn't matter it's 2-3 weeks waiting for them to warranty and get them back to us that's 2-3 weeks of lost production because their $900 Punch kit that they advertise as professional grade can't stand up to doing 10 3" punches in a row without the pump giving up.
I agree dave
@@JoeC92 Milwaukee used to make REALLY reliable tools and you can still find 15+ year-old impacts and power drills in use on job sites, but I think more recently they might be slipping. They grew into a lot of other areas. Like, I don't remember ever seeing Milwaukee gloves or pliers, when did they start making gloves? Great gloves too, and their lineman's pliers are arguably better than Klein for less $$, but meanwhile for power tools: I'll take the DeWalt chainsaw and Ryobi for everything else.
@@gorkyd7912 100% agree. I've been with the same company for 10 years now and we never used to have the issues we have now and always been using Milwaukee.
I'm yet to try the Milwaukee pliers but ditched Klein for knipex and never looked back
@Adirondack Homestead that was me for Klein tools too. Got sick of having to constantly replace screw drivers and pliers because the tips round out so quick or pliers can't cut anymore.
Switched to wiha drivers and knipex pliers and no issues again.
I don't get how so many can look past the lost time from broken tools and not realize the loss.
The company I work for is huge, and multi trade we have a Milwaukee rep dedicated just to our company and the service still takes 2+weeks. Too much lost time I wouldn't be surprised if they switch from Milwaukee soon. Same thing happened with the rental company for boom lifts etc. Lifts the break down and then they take a week or two to come service them while still trying to charge $3000 a week in rental fees. Stopped using them and switched to one of the others that at least comes when you call them.
I'm a Makita fan due to the weight, ergonomics and reliability,I'm using gear all day and the Makita gear generally feels more comfortable in hand, less weight hanging on my belt and less downtime due to tool breakdowns.
So far the only Makita tool to fail on me has been the gib screw driver
Right on deano.....makita is the lightest of them all and comfort for all day use is top scorer....all my Milwaukee sits in the draws ....always go for my makita gear first...
Makita is super reliable and cheaper overall than milwaukee. My first Makita 18V battery 3ah bought in 2012 and still works. I have M12 tool range as well though
Funny that you mention weight, one of my friends has a Makita drill and while I do agree that it does feel a bit nicer, the skin alone with no battery seems to weigh almost as much as my Milwaukee drill plus a 5Ah batter.
With the option of battery adapters now I've decided to adapt what I think is best in category to use. I have Milwaukee most but I like makita circular saw due to the dust shoot. Milwaukee jigsaw is not very good chips and frays edges when I use down cut blades so I use a dewalt .
is dewalt good or sucks?
I'm heavy into Makita now and very happy with their tools. I'm off Festool now that my vac remote stopped working 4 months in and they say they don't warranty accessories.
Thanks for the heads up. I never give money to companies like that. Charging top dollar while giving as little as possible in return. I don't care if they are the last brand on earth. I'll improvise.
Thanks for this info. I'm retooling right now, I just gave all my milwaukee tools to the contractor that just did my bathroom, he was just getting started, did a great job and probably didn't charge me enough for the bathroom so I gave him several bonuses like that and will use him again. all the makita stuff I have like the floor plainer all is plug in, I could still go either way. Great video, again thanks, I needed this right now
Ive been running 18v makita tools for about 12 years. There great, i have over 50 makita tools. The only issues ive had are with the multi tools. Ive probably had 8-10 of them iver the years. Dewalt and Milwaukee especially are SO UNCOMFORTABLE in the hand. Its like the designers and engineers never even put the tool in their hands. All my Makita tools fit my hand like a glove and give me complete confidence in the task at hand.
I’m a sparky. And always been a Milwaukee guy. But recently as my impact driver and grinder has died. I felt the new impact from makita and thought it felt way better built and comfortable to use then milwaukee so decided to jump
Over and get a makita grinder and impact. Really impressed with makita quality. Potentially making a switch as my Milwaukee stuff dies.
Yeah…I’ve used makita my whole life and tried Milwaukee impacts and they just don’t feel right. And my Milwaukee buddies try my makita for certain things and say the same thing. Idk how to explain it.
I know someone who works for makita and believe me they are hiding alot of secrets regarding their dredful tools
Makita didn't make the field test for us... Milwaukee has the fuel for us
Are you comparing it to your old Milwaukee or the new Milwaukee?
@@nickrouse1738 I picked up the new Milwaukee when I was in the store and the makita impact was leaps and bounds better, lighter smoother better feel. The Milwaukee grinder I had the paddle switch has a spring in it which failed early. Just seems like a robust solid tool with relies on a cheap spring to work. Now it’s useless. I opted for the makita grinder with the toggle switch just seems bullet proof. Don’t get me wrong though I love all Milwaukees tools they’re great but just wanted to give makita a try
As someone who owns a lot of Milwaukee tools, I will say everything you are saying is 100% correct. I have way too many Milwaukee tools to completely bail on the M18 platform, but there are a lot of tools that will be replaced with the XGT. I did buy the Milwaukee traksaw, which is a great tool. But no Bluetooth dust extraction. Sometimes I feel like Milwaukee is tone, deaf to what is going on around them. I like Milwaukee but I’m feeling frustrated with them as a Company right now.
You know you have to be one of the laziest tradesman in the world when not being able to turn on your dust collector remotely is a problem that affects your work.
@@nickmilone5996 t’s not remotely it turns on automatically. And when you have a shop like I do with guys working in it that don’t always turn on the dust extraction it’s a helpful feature. Not everybody’s situation is your situation. And regardless of that fact, every other premium brand offers Bluetooth dust extraction. Milwaukee is also the same company that offers one key. And one key offers some pretty useless gimmicky features so the concept definitely isn’t beyond Milwaukee. They were just being cheap. But I’m sure Milwaukee appreciates you defending them for giving people less for and charging them more.🤦♂️
@@steffendetrick so again, lazy shop workers don't wanna turn on the piece of equipment that is literally in their hands. If your workers are that against doing their jobs then you might wanna look into Festool. Connect to their dust collector and it turns on automatically when you use your tool, perfect for this guys that can't be bothered to turn on the thing they're using.
I have used Hitachi and now metabo hpt they have served me well mate
You definitely hit the nail on the head with Milwaukee batteries, I'm heavily invested in Milwaukee and Dewalt tool, I've had 5 Milwaukee batteries that won't fully charge, and I've never had any problems with my Dewalt batteries at all, and all my batteries from both companies are the same age!! Thanks for the video, Makita is definitely the way to go, they are just a little bit too expensive for me, but they are the best tools in my opinion.
I use Milwaukee on the job. My colleague uses Dewalt. We use each other tools from time to time. I find the Dewalt tools lighter. I also like the yellow and black. All of them do a great job.
milwaukee is little higher brand than dewalt
I'm come from the German tech theatre world and Makita is just the brand of choice in this world. The touring theatres have their production tool case, it's a big shop cabinet built as a road case and when they open it up, you'll see sleek black wood and a row of Makita cordless drills peaking out with their petroleum blue accents. It's just THE tool and I've always loved using them, they feel really ergonomic and confidence-inspiring.
I love you still have your original Makita drills. I still have mine from 13 years ago and both still work, even though the drill has been smoking more than a few times from mixing drywall mud.
I also agree that Makita is more Carpenter focused than Milwaukee
I have a makita 1.5ah battery that is over 15yrs old and still going strong. Go makita!
I have all Milwaukee Fuel and am totally satisfied with their performance and reliability.
Makita is leading in the lawn & garden battery category right now. Light and durable!
I've spent a shit ton on Makita tools for woodworking and properties management. Always a pleasure to use them. I've also saved some money by buying their corded version like the electric planer and the miter saw which is by far my favorite tool. Even the wife gifted me the handheld vacuum and subcompact line knowing that's gonna end up being used around the house. But when I see a builder using heavy Makita tools for framing, HD renting them, and this summer saw Disney World maintenance crews using Makita at their resorts, it reinforced my choice.
At least it was a shit ton and not a shit load.
I've been on the makita lxt system since I bought my first tool set back in 2013. Which is still going strong to this day. But have since been replaced with brushless models. But still get used often. My brushed impact wrench has been relegated to home use and replaced with the brushless high torque impact wrench for my work truck. My brushed recip has been replaced by the xgt 2nd gen recip on my work truck and relegated to light duty home use
@@dangrimes5078 Yep, definitely makes a difference. Lol
After watching a certain Irish bloke repairing tools from the big major brands I got even more sold on Makita, who actually think about making them repairable without it costing more than 50% of the tool to repair.
i am a milwaukee guy through and through, i love the banter between guys on different platforms, but makita has always had my respect. Id be on that platform equally as much as I would milwaukee, but i got on the battery platform on team red when i first got in the trades
Milwaukee was purchased by some conglomerate that have many brand names under their control so you buy only the name . On the other side Makita is independent . The same with Hilti .
I think the main thing holding people back from going all in on xgt has gotta be the prices. Having said that they do make some solid ass tools
I'm mainly a Makita guy but certain tools they make are over priced IMO, I have a corded Dewalt job sit table saw, Ridgid Jointer, Dewalt Planer, Bosch Miter saw, Craftsman cordless 18g nailer, as well as a Craftsman cordless 7 1/4 miter saw, as far as Corded tools I buy the best bang for the buck and go craftsman for cordless tools that cost to much in the Makita line
You (the customer) cannot win these days. Milwaukee are decent tools but could suffer from reliability, Makita are reliable but I think many of their XGT tools are way too overpriced.
bloody hell..my local tool store had a sale recently and was contemplating between Makita xgt 6 pce kit for $3100 or the hikoki 36v 10pce kit for $2200.... eventually went with hikoki....but still in the back of my mind I some how I do think Makita is better built....knowing myself I'm going to buy into Makita even with the next sale...love tools as a collector.....
Thats why i got Bosch Pro for everything in my home. I am no Tradie in any form, but the quality is for me the best, and you get some nice bonuses from Bosch. I Bought a tool set with SDS Plus Hammer Drill and an Drill for 329€, but you can get additional things from a programm called "Pro360". For the set i bought, i got an additional Impact 1/2" Impact Driver and two 5 amp 18v batterys for free. That and i can walk in the Bosch Shop a town over, drop of my defect machine and get a replacement right there. And Bosch startet AmpShare, a system for share batterys over different tool companies
Own a bunch of Milwaukee power tools and batteries and never had a issue ever, except for thieves who love to steal Milwaukee tools
This video is perfectly correct…a wise choice..not just a brand slave…change when its favor you more to solve the problem….many just read the spec etc. but the real worker on their own field knew which brand to choose for the ergonomic and conveniency…for example which one would fit the tight space better etc.
Another great video thank you. Makita have been top notch gear forever and before I started my plumbing apprenticeship in 1975 at 15 years old. They always set the standard for the others to achieve.
What would you rather do run around for batteries and chargers or plug a cord in once.
What an absolute load of crap
There are several Milwaukee tools that leave makita for dead
There are some makita tools better than Milwaukee
To say makita is the one setting the standard is garbage
Give me the Milwaukee angle grinders over makita any day and their impact drivers and impact wrenches and grease guns
Would go makita for their saws is about all
Makita impact drivers are nicely balanced but Milwaukee grunt kills them
Not true Makita has always been behind Dewalt and Milwaukee in innovation. Not to mention no high output batteries for the 18 volt line.their impact drivers do not cut it if you're driving big fasteners. I have their cordless track saw which I like except battery life is not great thanks to outdated technology.
A major plus for makita is that they are more wildly available on the second hand market. Cash Converters generally have multiple shelves full, rather than just a sprinkling of bosch or Milwaukee.
Makita is a great brand I still have battery and drill that are ni-cad 14.4 and 18v. Don't really use them but they're my first kits I ever bought. Now I have all milwaukee mainly because in my area Makita doesn't have as much tools that you can pickup same day. Nowadays they're all good just get the ones that fit more comfortable in your hands.
on-line at Acme Tools - As I live rather remote all of my Makita was purchased from them
I spent a decade doing similar work, larger scope interior focused remodeling, which almost always includes a decent amount of cabinetry and finish trim work, before finding my current specialty. These types of remodels are so broad in scope they have the widest requirement for power tools compared to more narrowly focused trades. That makes these types of outfits very good judges on tool platform choices. They regularly use such a wide variety of equipment ranging from hammer drills for light concrete and tile demo to fine finish tools like track saws and and routers. I’m sure this guy has lots of secondary tools they use often but not every job
Marc. I'm a plasterer by trade. Although I had to diversify to cover many aspects in the building trade simply to remain in work. I have tool boxes for bricklaying, concreting, carpentry, plastering, ceiling fixing, tiling. I did maintenance work such as using demolition hammers. Moving into the battery range. I do wish to purchase a cordless mid size sds max demolition hammer. I have the metabo 18 volt sds plus rotary hammer. Its pretty good. I did have a 36 volt metabo4 amp hour.It got stolen along with other tools.So I replaced. Yes, I'm also a tool person. It did get me work however. I get asked can you do this? I say yes I can. Sometimes I don't know how. I figure a way and just do it .
I’m an electrician in the UK and have always used Makita as it what my dad favoured when I worked for him. Dewalt is popular here but never owned any dewalt purely because it’s yellow, I have always felt thieves are like bugs and go for the brightly coloured stuff first. The first makita LXT combi drill I bought when I went on my own in 2008 has just shit itself, 16 years of trouble free daily service is pretty good if you ask me.
You make some valid and great points. I switched from DeWalt about 4 yrs ago and have went strictly Milwaukee. Overall I am happy. However the Mitersaw, lack of AWS and issues with 12ah batteries have dimmed my excitement as of late.
For miter saws I just love Bosch's cyborg arm. For the money it's the most robust system to counter deflection I've seen. Even better than those new arm style saws that have tried to copy bosch have done an inferior job.
Mine survived a car crash and still slices and dices. The truck didn't fare as well, (I was not there). It's an older plug in model.
I don't think for bigger tools I want battery power, I want robust power, quality dust collection, and dust collection that can turn on automatically with any tool I plug into it.
Plus I don't want to get stuck waiting to charge.
Not sure what your issue is with the milwaukee 12ah? I've never had problems with them other than taking forever to charge. But that's because you need rapid chargers for the big batteries. Heck if I was using 12ah ones a lot I would consider the supercharger. It charges a 12ah in 1 hour.
Capacity wise, the m18 12ah has more capacity than the makita 40v 4ah. It's like a 40v 6ah battery.
EXTREMELY HELPFUL! Thanks. As serious DiYer with limited budget who does stuff for friends in exchange for buying a relevant tool, this was perfect. I've been very impressed with my 4Amp Milwaukee drill driver pack so considered going Milwaukee for more gear. But love my Makita corded saws. Think I'll go 40V Makita tracksaw etc - matches what I do
I have an older Makita 2x18v tracksaw, it's awesome. Storing the rails is a pain, but they are x-compatible with Festool if that matters.
Thanks. I have a Makita corded circular saw with an accessory that lets it work on track, so I have a piece of Makita track already. I also have some homemade tracks up to 8' / 2440mm that work very well with my 230mm blade Makita circular saw.
I switched from Milwaukee to Dewalt because I had problems with the first three fuel tools I bought and shocking aftersales. Dewalt have been more reliable for me as a carpenter & joiner but I think Makita are good enough also.
Also run my business off the dewalt range. Love it
Dewalts 60v line is trashing everybody. Plus milwaukee is in trouble. Dewalts coming
Dewalt is pretty tough and reliable but they aren't as refined as Makita. They are quite rough really. Makita tools are silky smooth to use and often times lighter and more compact. And as far as reliability goes, they are at the top. The red tools aren't very reliable from what I've seen. I run both Makita and Dewalt, but I'm finding when a tool needs replacing I'm reaching for the Makita.
Thank you for your time and your great explanations. It's all consistent with my decade experience.
Thank you again.
Milwaukee tracksaw is coming out February in Australia. But makita has really gone above and beyond with their XGT range
February almost seems too soon for aus. Would be good though.
@@AddictedtoTools it is funny how milwaukee releases go. After the pipeline events in the us some tools we get super fast (M12 nibbler) some much later (track saw) some never!
Yeah I’ve always wondered how it all worked. I’m sure they have reasoning for why they release gear at different times or not at all.
If you can handle the price the Makita miter saw has a crazy good design compared to most. The slider is nowhere near as awkward and takes up half the bench space because it is side mounted not rear mounted. I think, with a few exceptions, Makita seems to put more effort into the design process of their tools.
I have had 5 milwaukee batteries die within the 1st year. Small business, I can't wait a month to run a tool. Makita is my tool of choice. I have never had a makita battery die. My Makita miter saw 36v did die this year, but it was 5 years old. I love that miter saw, so it's being rebuilt now.
Sama here, done ordering milwaukee bateries, the makita XGT batteries lasts forever.
@RuBrasil absolutely I still have yet to have one fail. I have a couple dozen, and I use them every day. Some are 6 months old, and some are 6 years old, and I can't tell the difference when I run them.
At my workplace majority of gear is Milwaukee and very few makita, biggest problem with Milwaukee is the way the battery connnects to tools. Our tools cop an absolute flogging, after time the Milwaukee tools don't attach to the batterys as well and power cuts out. Long term Makita any day of the week.
I am a makita man for my work but use the Milwaukee packout tool box’s due to their drawers and the quality and strength.
Same here, Milwaukee have very powerful tools that kills the batteries earlier than expected. I love my Milwaukees but now almost always order makita ones just because the electronics in tools and batteries make it last forever. For example I made a very aggressive use of grinder to cut and polish rocks, this cause i have to order 2 or 3 batteries per year! Makita 40V the battery have more than 18 months, the tool have a special sensor that slows down the tool when battery is too hot to don't damage the battery. I save several hundred dollars with makita compared to Milwaukee. And Inlove Milwaukee ❤ but they are far behind in battery management.😢
“Never tie yourself to one brand”-good advice I received by the tool associate at Home Depot.
No ... buy a truckload of batteries and chargers instead ;-)
Residential electrician and I use M12 tools and Makita 18v. Makita has a way larger tool line for the 18v platform. Going to be investing in Makita 40v tools soon.
I use to be Anti-Makita for absolutely no reason other then that I used all Milwaukee. I tried my friends Makita because my Milwaukee died, and WOW!!!!!!! I sold all my Milwaukee gear and switched to Makita. I find Milwaukee to be like an old muscle car, and find Makita to be a refined super car. Makita doesn’t seem to be powerful, but that is because I use to associate power with tons of vibration. Makita has power, but made it run smooth and efficient without shaking my bits off like Milwaukee. I’m glad I can now finish a day of work and still feel my fingers 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This is important and rarely a factor for all these power videos. Ergonomics , esp for smaller hands/ less strength is important. You might be a bear in your youth, but as you get older all those repetitive strains matter.
What are you talking about. Fix your tools…
Well explained! I'm with makita since 2016. 🤘🏼👊
My dad used Makita for 30+ years, never had a failure and they can take tons of abuse, I do prefer to buy my hand tools made in the USA though.
Woodpecker makes a tool you can attach to the track of your saw for repeatable cuts, you can also cut thin strips with it, basically replacing a jobsite table saw for ripping boards.
I run 18V Makita and 12V Milwaukee. Makita drills have constantly let me down but maybe I asking too much from them using holesaws although there was one model that was fundamentally flawed which many people I knew had the same problem. Anyway, apart from that I have flogged the Makita’s and they are great.
You are correct in regards to Makita being better for carpentry as every Chippy I know runs Makita and/or Festool.
Damn that Bluetooth extraction is probably so nice to have
That extraction system is awesome! Would love to see a video of how you set it up when using it for different tasks
I use MAKITA. I'm a fan of Japanese engineering and I appreciate the lack of hype! Nowhere on a makita box will you find the word EXTREME, as far as I know. Bought my first white brushed makita 18v drill driver set about 20years ago with 1.5ah batteries!
Since then I've added other brushed and brushless tools and batteries including another drill driver set, grinder, circ saw, jig saw, router, recip saw, vacuum, and something else I can't remember.
In that amount of time I've never had a makita tool fail. I only had one of the original 1.5ah batteries die. The original drill needs anew chuck.
I started as a home user but have used these tools in my boat building career for the last 6 years. Stuff is bullet proof. ✌🏼
Makitas new XGT line is absolutely beautiful and top of the line tools.
That said, Milwaukee also has good tools as well.
At work we have Milwaukee tools provided, we have a pile of tools and batteries called Milwaukee mountain that have failed, everything from failed batteries, drills,1/2 impacts, 3/4 impacts.. will NEVER buy Milwaukee for my self, still using the batteries I got with my first dewalt cordless drill as a first year apprentice 12 years ago. (Broke the tool, no fault of the tool whatsoever) still using dewalt and just invested in the new flexvolt range. 👌
Started on Makita but went to Milwaukee about 12-13 years ago as they had a good deal I couldn't refuse.
I still have the original battery.
I agree as plumber Milwaukee has some products that work better e.g. the new 12v sump pump and the 12v small tools as they fit into tight places.
Also to note the 12v vacuums that fit into the hammer drills are pretty cool as they fit into tricky spots.
But def the power advantage with Makita plus the bluetooth would be cool.
But it all depends on the type of work your doing.
I just hate how you have to lock into one product.
Pick what works and don't be afraid to look at new things or think differently.
Also I like the idea of the coffee machine Makita does, I could def do with that in the tool box.
I started on Makita, because I brought the pink drill. No man in my family will steal it, because they clearly see its pink and it's mine 😂
Then came the mini trimmer and vacuum...and now I am hooked.
Going to get the orbital sander next.
I install windows and doors and use Makita 18v and dewalt 50/50 . The Makita impacts hands down destroy all others but I do prefer the dewalt 7 1/4 battery mitre saw that I use to cut trim and simply use a 9 ah flexvolt battery on .
Carpenter from Europe here, I use Makita but still the older 18 V LXT lineup. The batteries are not as modern as the new XGT batteries but they seem to live almost for an eternity. I still use 5 batteries from my first batch in late 2015, they are still working perfectly. Meanwhile I have a lot of newer machinery but they still work fine with the old batteries.
You said it best. For the service type trades, Milwaukee and even dewalt are kings. Makita however, still has better quality, better suited tools for woodworking/builder applications.
That said, my first combo kit was makita and I haven’t bought any other brand since, once you have so many batteries or a well established set of tools it’s hard to switch so I’ve learned to live with some of the quirks of the mechanic based tools makita offers.
I’ll be going with something like Greenworks for EGo for my lawn tools though.
I agree. I have Makita for woodworking, but mostly Milwaukee for working on cars.
The funny part is I'm a tow truck operator and I carry only makita on my work truck. Makita tools have never let me down. I carry a makita drill, impact wrench and recip saw in the lxt platform. I also carry the 2nd gen xgt recip saw on my truck as well
Dewalt is known for carpentry. They make the best saws hands down.
The Milwaukee framing nailer is the must have Milwaukee tool
When I first started carpentry I started with all Dewalt because everyone else had makita. Then I made the change and it was for better. Makita may not be the strongest but they sure are the smoothest and quietest tools.
All day
Bosch are under power but even smoother than makita . Especially when using their better stuff . I rate there drill Especially I don't own one but the one's I've used in the past felt better than drills twice the price.
I do wish Makita would bring out a smaller planner like the litter Bosch one. For lighter finish work it’s lighter in the hand.
Enjoyed your video.
I did the same fron Red to Teal last year, never regret this decision! However, I kept some M12 tools, and now I'm mixed with Makita, Milwuakee, Hikoki, DeWalt, Bosch and recently the new addition is Festool.
I have makita xgt, switching from Milwaukee. I find the fit and finish of makita xgt much better. The track saw and miter saw are extremely smooth and the xgt is handy with the battery vac.
Makita tools are amazing , quality and affordability.
Great video. I am on a few of the battery platforms. I would say that you will probably want a table saw when it comes to fix out depending on how detailed your job is. All the best with it!
Two best things that came out of Japan. Makita and Toyota. Both absolutely bullet proof.
I’m on the Milwaukee and makita xgt platforms, I can’t honestly say I could be on either platform fully! The Milwaukee 16 and 18g and framing nailers are phenomenal and they have tools that xgt just don’t make yet. I have the xgt mitre saw, 190mm saw, combo drill and impact, recip saw, planer and track saw that Milwaukee just don’t compete with
Dont compete on the recip saw?
@@Alex-uh1mj yeah the recip saw from Milwaukee is the staple but the new flex looks pretty good too, coming from a dewalt guy
I expect them to DeWalt tools going from Porter-Cable junk essentially saved up earned it bought it bought the kits when they had the battery included or multiple batteries and chargers etc been running for about 5 years now non-stop
Trim carpentry rough carpentry beam work you name it and it's been going non-stop however DeWalt makes really poor nailers in the cordless range so I use battery adapters from Amazon and been running those for about that long too for my Milwaukee nail gun Brad nailer and 15 gauge by dewalt batteries are still going strong they have never had an issue They seem to have a better system and backup system One thing I have noticed is a lot of people that use Milwaukee on the job site They have battery issues also the bearings go out on their tools especially the impacts and the drills and the same goes with Makita The batteries go out especially if it's cold they do not like cold at all My DeWalts will run in the cold No problem I also was smart about it and built a battery box with two chargers so that when I'm charging my batteries it's also an insulated box it's got two fast chargers inside and then I bought Amazon battery lockers to go on the walls of the inside the box so roughly I have 15 batteries ranging from 5 9 ampere hours 3 6 amp your hour several 2.5 and and a few fives I never have a problem with it I would like to get a 12 amp per hour but I think I'm just going to go with the cheaper brands the knockoffs and see how they do if not then I've only lost maybe a hundred bucks and I can get them replaced versus paid $250 a battery or $375 for a 15 amp
I do plan on getting a 23 gauge Makita and then getting a battery adapter so I can use my batteries it's all the same voltage 18.6 volts the whole systems are
@@Alex-uh1mj The new Makita XGT avt recip saw is faster than Milwaukee.
@@clarkfos3447 ah okay, ive not seen any comparisons yet. Im too heavy invested in Milwaukee now 😅 better not watch
Really excellent review, man!! I’m a tradesman of a different stripe, not carpentry but airplane mechanic. Love to All tradespeople. You broke everything down really well, and I learned a useful chunk about carpentry and stayed interested even though it’s not my normal thing, very well done.
I’ll echo that all modern tools are Great, from Ryobi on up. I’ve got a 7yo Ryobi 12v drill that was 50 bucks, and it was basically faultless the whole 3yrs that it was my only drill. Durable, plenty of power for mechanicking, batteries last forever, better trigger than my newer brushless big brand drill, can’t say enough good about that Ryobi. So All the modern stuff is great. Pick a platform and go to town. That said, it looks like for carpentry, Makita is on the ball.
I went Milwaukee last year have had a couple issues with a battery and circ saw and been eyeing off Makita 40v range lately however the worst problem with Makita is no framing nailer. I'm a handyman so I need just about everything
What circ saw problem? Mine had bad trigger problems. Worked intermittently which was painful. Nail guns have been a let down from makita. Not sure they haven’t kept up. I’ve been loving all the Milwaukee nailers. Cheers for the feedback👌
Hit the nail on the hand at 6:20 with your statement “what work are you doing and what finished product do you need?”
Blows my mind watching the average house husband shelling out $500 USD for the newest Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, Bosch, Flex etc and then to overhear he’ll be using it to put small screws into drywall anchors to hang pictures.
Most people not in the handyman, construction, blue collar trades industry *do not ever need* to care about brand for day to day house work.
The professional framer who drives structural screws all day long definitely cares which impact driver, rotary drill, or impact wrench drives the quickest and easiest and which battery runs longest and best on it.
As a PSA, please stop buying top of the line gear for household DIY stuff. You can get the cheapest most off brand piece of crap on the market and it will do the job of hanging those pictures just fine.
Cheers mate. I fully agree. A lot of the time the tool will only be used a few times. Don’t have to buy the top or the most expensive
Man I would have loved to see the 50k worth of tools your old company purchased
Yeah it was awesome. There was a lot of larger gear, torpedo lights, hammer drills, crimpers…. But still a lot of gear
Hi, I have worked installing pipework in underground mining for years and am currently back to surface boilermaker/fitter work, we use Milwaukee, we hammer it. The batteries always get loose and the connection becomes intermittent, especially on the 12AH ones. We would go through a 3/4 rattle gun probably once every two months, it seems they need a more substantial contact point and stringer rails for the batteries to slide on.
I first started using a cordless drill, Makita, in 1989. Then got a Dewalt then back to Makita. I use to think it was a good idea to only run on one platform and back then it was a good idea but now I run four platforms for different reasons. I really see no reason to run only one and only one. The only downside is you need multiple chargers which for me isn't a big deal. Each maker has their strengths and weaknesses so I just take advantage of multiple companies strengths and don't bother with the weak stuff.
Have you tried the charging adaptors for 50$ Amazon ??? Any brand any battery
@@jairoguzman4631 No, I haven't. I don't have any need for an adapter. I've got batteries for all four systems. In fact just a few days ago I got back into Dewalt so that now makes it 5 platforms.
I'm the same way. I've got M18, M12, LXT, and XGT. Doesn't bother me as much as most people to drag a few extra batteries around. I do use mostly Milwaukee for work (electrician), and mostly Makita for home use (woodworking, general construction, etc). However I mix and match plenty, and always prefer to be able to choose between each platform for each tool, and get the highest quality.
The thing with makita is they didn’t jump on any crazy bandwagons too quickly. It took them forever to change voltage, and update their platform. They don’t flood the stores where I live like Dewalt, and some others, and especially not their professional level gear. I use a lot of dewalt, because it’s cheap for the performance I get. Always sales on tools, and batteries everywhere, and that makes it a no brainer. Usually can get a pair of 5Ah batteries for $150 Cdn when the good deals come on. I recently bought the flex volt 60v circular saw, with a 9ah and charger included for $400 total. The thing is incredible, for such a cheap price. Im not opposed to having other tools that work better than dewalt either. The Milwaukee 23gu headless pinner is amazing. Dewalt’s was bulkier, and had nail jams….haven’t had a single jam in the Milwaukee yet. The 40v makita platform looks really thought out, but I have already made the investment. Dewalts new miter saw only takes one battery now, has more power, and runs longer than the old flex volt version that required two batteries. If I was just starting out, makita would be on the table for sure. All my old corded makita gear is about as solid feeling as it gets. Best hand planer, and belt sander ever created in my opinion. Hopefully they can punch through the yellow, and red that has flooded the market already.
Nice one! Adding another better platform hurts initially when buying new batteries and chargers, but it also frees up existing batteries for those other branded tools, and more importantly opens up a whole new range of tools to cater to ones needs.
Let the tool choice dictate the battery, not the other way around.
Next to festool Makita has mitersaw’s
Excellent comparison! As a Milwaukee bigot I have to say you were spot on with your comparison overview. I have over 30 M12 and M18 tools, plus 20+ Packout boxes and bags. So I’m committed and for the most part very satisfied. Milwaukee builds some excellent tools! However, I believe they’ve missed the mark with their new vacuum line, which looks excellent. Not having BlueTooth connectivity between vac and tools is a major miss. How the hell could that even happen?
And lack of dual power is also a huge miss. Having to ONLY use battery power or not having passive charging is such a stupid idea for such an expensive tool
There is a powerhead that has a corded or battery option. There a 3 configurations.
What's the use of bluetooth when you are connecting a vacuum hose... Doesn't make sense at all.
When you pull the trigger on the tool, the vacuum come on and turns off 2 seconds later. It’s extremely handy
@@michaelrjacobs , it’s simple…instead of having to reach down to turn the vacuum on prior to starting the circ saw or miter saw or whatever tool, Bluetooth from the tool sends a signal to the vacuum, automatically turning the vacuum on. After the trigger on the saw or tool is released the vacuum turns off. If your making a lot of cuts it would be really nice to “not” have to reach down each time to turn the vacuum on and off. With Bluetooth connectivity you never have to worry about forgetting to turn the vacuum on or off. It’s just a very convenient technology that I’d like to see Milwaukee incorporate in their tools and vacuums.
I’m a Milwaukee guy till I die! Even though most everything is the same drills,impacts,batteries, grinders,lights,saws & sawzalls. I don’t think there’s any difference in brands until you get into specialty tools where each company has their bread & butter!
I've had Makita drills since 1987, although I bought a number of Ryobi tools between around 2005 and 2015 as their line expanded quicker and at a lower price point. The past few years, I've gone back to Makita with the LXT platform, and I love them. I'm hoping the XGT platform doesn't result in them phasing out the LXT line. 😬🤞
I talked to a rep the other day he said that it wouldn't be , that the xgt would be a pro line and 18v would become a home handyman type of product
Yeah, their LXT stuff is here to stay, at least into the foreseeable future.
By the 80s Makita was all made in Japan , current Makita are made in China, I don't think is the same quality.
@@pablosetien5548 Makita is made in about 13 places, not just China. They have specs they have to meet in China. Most tools are made there. Makita is still the best overall quality
I have a couple of small and big Makita saws and always really liked them. Deciding which tool to buy these days is almost as bad as buying a used car. So stressful!Unless you have loads of money and can buy anything you want.
The makita table saw is pretty average. I bought one and returned it. The larger dewalt version is far superior in design, features and construction.
Agree, I have a lot of makita tools but mitre saw is a DeWalt.
Same, team teal over here but picked up the DeWalt tablesaw as the fence on the Makita I looked at was terrible
I have 3 brands going actually Makita being the majority of it and is my favourite have to say
I am a carpenter and i am fully comited with milwaukee tool ! Hey makita where are your table saw xgt and your fraiming nailer ??
The Milwaukee carpentry gear is definitely good. I’m also surprised that makita haven’t uped their game with the table saw and nailer.
I grabbed the Milwaukee framing, finishing, and pin nailer. They’re awesome!
Makita has been lacking with their nail guns for awhile. I feel like they didn't want to release one unless it was better than a Paslode.
I'm waiting for their table saw
They have a 21 degree framing nailer in some countries. In Brazil we have it, pneumatic one. Unfortunately no battery ones so far.
Milwaukee has always been marketed towards the electricians & plumbers. They were best known for inventing the recipro(Sawzall) and the best corded drills. Especially compact right angle high torque used for 4” hole saws. All the of the plumbers in the States have them.
When they invented the sawzall they were still a American company 😂
Great explanations. I would do the same.
My first platform was Ryobi (in EU), but they have so expensive and big batteries, that I want to change it. So I change to DeWalt and for now it;s really brilliant and really much greater than Ryobi (you can feel the difference).
But its funny that people say "only makita!" or "only milwaukee!". C'mon... Of course it's expensive to get two systems, because you have to buy a lot of batteries and chargers, but sometimes it's worth it because one tool in milwaukee can be a crap but the same tool in makita is brilliant. So as you said - just pick up what you need and try to find platform where your daily tools will be the best
Milwaukee - Class Jock
DeWalt - The Wrestler
Makita - Quiet Smart Guy
May I suggest EGO for Garden Tools. Use a different line for shop tools. I’ve used Hitachi/(now Metabo) for ten years, but Makita, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bausch all have followers, the important thing is the quality of the battery line you’ll be marrying. Brushless (Neodymium magnet) is very important for both torque, runtime, and spark non-generation.
All the company platforms go through cycles where they focus on a particular market and others get left behind opening the door for others to innovate and jump over them. I have more Makita corded tools than anything, however I started with DeWalt 18v XRP nicad as they seemed to most committed to the platform. With Lithium Ion hit the market, I stayed with DeWalt but they were late to the game with some tools so found myself now back in Makita LXT as well. I even have Bosch 18v batteries mainly because they hands down make one of the best 18v sanders out there. The only one that comes close is festool and that's at 3x the price. If your a Milwaukee fanboy, where was the track saw all these years?? There is no way I would have waited this long to buy one, I actually started with Festool TS55 and went to the Makita X2 for cordless over 4 years ago. The bottom line is stay within your system when you can to get the most value of your battery investments but sometimes the best tool might be outside your existing system and if it's one you will use a lot, it makes sense to be open to going outside your system.
Meanwhile I have my hands on Bosch, Hikoki, Milwaukee and Makita gear. I promise it's not commitment issues, but Makita just seems to have the best offerings for gardening\groundskeeping equipment, Hikoki had the strongest nail gun offerings at the time although Milwaukee's newest nailers look more compelling than their gen1's. The list goes on
Good overview vid on your tools with your valid points to consider 👍
Now, I was scanning your reno works and its looking good. I see you've gone hard core and put a steel beam in for a solid decent span, nice one. Lots of sun light bouncing around too since the Veluxs have gone in.
Are you going soft close on your cavity doors?, I'm thinking of converting my past reno works to soft close now.
Looking forward to your next reno updates...maybe before Xmas?
Cheers, I'm enjoying ya channel ☺️
Cheers mate. Yeah I’m going to do an overview video next I think. Run through everything and what’s happening. I hadn’t thought of soft close on the doors. Might look at that👌
As a Plumber working in underground services I need high powered big gear, breakers, grinders, concrete cutters, largest air blowers, strong suction vacs, water pumps, and I have to admit I’m disappointed with Milwaukee.
I have gone from Dewalt to Milwaukee, with approximately 16k worth spent on Milwaukee I’m very keen to transition to Makita… they got some amazing gear.
Lets be REAL clear here...
You switched because 1 reason and 1 reason only....Makita is your new sponsor and is paying you that $$$$$$$$$
😂 cost me $5000 for this setup.
@@AddictedtoTools That track saw cost you your life!
Around 8 years ago I switched from Makita to Milwaukee…
I have 18 V and 12 v, but my 18 v batteries (4/5) stopped to charge after only one year of usage, and they look brand new from outside, but actually they are both dead or they are in sleep state!
But the 12V battery is still in good condition, I believe Milwaukee 12v line is better than the 18V!!
I believe 18 V from Bosh, and Festool are as good as Makita 18v…and the most underrated brand is AEG!!!
I think Milwaukee is a whole lot better with mechanics too
Yeah they definitely cater to the mechanics👌
In the EU, Milwaukee is more expensive and when you need a tool, they’re always scarce. You have to shop around online vendors. It’s annoying. Makita is always a safe bet anywhere.