End of the day, running and driving is always better than sitting and rotting (even if it's garaged). As much as I prefer internal combustion over electric, I'd rather see classics on the road, than hidden away somewhere never to see the light of day again.
Finally a reasonable take on this I feel the exact same. BUUUUUT this guy talks about the grid not being able to support the draw WELL that’s exactly what’s going to happen when everyone is forced into evs
@@None_yabusiness69420 Yes when everyone drives ellectric tomorrow. but this will be a process stretching 20-30 years. we switched in 20 years from horse to cars vom 1900 to 1920. its much easier to just switch the energy source. And look up how much electricity is already used in the oil and gasoline business
Not my thing but a great option for plenty of cars with problematic drivetrains or that need heavy mechanical restoration. Fortunately these kits are straightforward to reverse. Awesome idea and the execution seems great.
The cool thing about what Fellten do is that they are bolt in conversions, meaning they are completely reversible! Seems crazy that people hate on it! There’s tonnes of people out there butchering cars and doing irreversible damage, but not these guys!
Considering it started as a rolling shell headed for the scrap heap, I'm totally down with an EV restomod. That being said even if it was a runner, it was his car so he can do what he wants with it, and i can appreciate the time and effort that he put into it. Even if i dont totally agree with it.
Then it's probably best to leave the judging to the purists. You'll only dilute the brand with your middle of the road approach. It's Porsche. Not Ford after all.
@Been.Here.Since.2007 Porsche elitists are the worst. His car, his money, his choice. Want to stop people from converting them? Buy the all for yourself.
@@BunkerBlog They're the worst because of people like this. Leave them alone and don't meddle in their heritage and you won't have to deal with them. Ferdinand created the most beautiful piece of engineering that needs very little tampering to keep it relevant in every decade. Even more insufferable are electric car people. ❤
@Been.Here.Since.2007 How many vintage porsches are really getting EV swapped? What, 1%? Maybe 2%? There's always a place for "showroom spec" classic cars, but I don't think that future-proofing classics is a bad idea either. Both can exist side by side. And while yeah I agree Tesla fans are super annoying guys like the one in this video are a very different breed of "EV fan" than an Elon Musk fanboy.
@@BunkerBlog I'm an air cooled VW guy myself. I think it's hilarious when they swap out the 1600cc for an huge electric motor. Turn it into a Baja. But I'm not going to mess with the Porsche moniker. Sounds like this guy wants to churn them out and make a bunch of money at it.
Absolutely loving these people stepping up to make resto kits. What I think we need now are good hybrid retrofit kits, particularly diesel electric for trucks (referring to EdisonMotors but haven't been hearing very good things with them recently ;-; )
Chris is such an awesome guy, hat chance to meet him in London at event, you can really see his passion for building such a great EV cars, and Fellten as a company great work
Gasoline forever! I will maintain the biggest problem with EV's is energy storage. I'm surprised more hybrids don't have a drive system like the Karma. Those diesel locomotives nowadays nowadays utilize an engine powering a generator, which is powering traction motors. Another thing would be doing propane or CNG conversion, we utilize existing technologies, and we don't have a lot of the emissions issues diesel fuel or gasoline has.
With EV conversations you have many other problems that are critical. Weight distribution for example will be completely messed up, and the batteries will not be well protected and in slight accidents could burst into flames easily.
In Australia we had LPG, which burns cleaner and higher octane than petrol, and despite pretty much pioneering the usage in cars, you basically can't get it anywhere anymore!
Do I love this idea, not at all ! Do I respect the business for at least keeping classic chassis alive and useable instead of rotting away? YES! If going electric “has to” happen, I would rather enjoy it in a car that doesn’t look like an oversized desktop computer .
If its wrecked or no one wants to fix then sure make ot a ev. Older generation keeps screaming sacrilege meanwhile its ok not to pay proper salaries to the younger gen them wounder why they cant afford it...
I would pay good money for a bolt in replacement EV kit for my classic pickup. EV's are so ridiculously expensive over here, it would be economical to import a kit and do it myself. But then the politicians slapped a 200% tax on EV cars to protect the local manufacturers. So it will still cost as much as a house.....
I don't know how much time you spend on semi/ automotive TH-cam but a couple of guys in Canada are in the process of developing a serial hybrid system for pickups. A diesel engine spins the generator, that charges the batteries, that supply the motor. They are called Edison Motors and they already put that concept into a couple of semis.
Look, if he's restoring wrecked clasics and turning them electric to get them back on the road, then i can respect that, but i can't support modifyng perfectly good iconic cars to shove batteries on them
@@raould860 would you rather spend even more on shoving the wrong engine in? By the time you're messing up the original car it doesn't really matter how you do it, i don't like thoose porsche restomods with the LED headlights and similar BS on old cars either, even if they use the modern equivalent of the engine the original used. The porsche emorys i think they are?
I wish I could afford this. More than likely I'll have to learn to do it myself. Purist can go suckit. The vintage car you turn your nose up to because you think it's junk, that's my treasure i can save with an EV Swap
I had/have a client who has asked for a ev conversion and I went down the rabbit hole of conversion but then I realized that what we like about gas cars is everything that is terrible about them…….they stink they have too much service and service parts and the e clunky shifting transmissions………now I’m completely lost on ev conversion (and I like ev and own both ev n gas)……..keep shitty gas cars gas……ev is awesome just not in a classic car not designed in anyway to be ev……..like any modification there’s a advantage and disadvantage……..so you end up making excuses for issues
That is the thing. The market isn't deciding. The government is, due to its subsidies. It's basically modern planned economy, a corruption scheme. Of course that will lead to a lot of illogical and damaging decisions. Not only in the car market.
Not a purist but if you are forced to repower your porsche an ev works for you go for it , I like my 2000 911 , it's plain , holds all my camping gear , gets great mpg an goes faster than i want a ticket for
My dream conversion as of late is a Detroit powered Cybertruck with a 4-71 or 4-53 sticking out of the hood. The problem with EV's are the EVangalists who use it as a political movement to get rid of real cars. Tread on those who tread on you.
Neither have you, so by your logic your objectively terrible opinion is invalid. Not to mention what idiot would put money into something they don’t support?
If the original car's engine is nothing special (i.e. Citroën DS), or if the car is a total write-off, go for it Don't be like Singer, cutting up perfectly fine cars to make them something else that can't be returned to original
@@Mr-pn2eh certainly doesn't drive better then an original, plus they price them out of existance. I would want to buy a 964, but 1. they didn't sell all that well to begin with, so their prices are already going up, and 2. companies like Singer cut up functional cars to turn them into million dollar collection pieces to sit in a garage, and never get driven again
Mini, maybe but classic minis are fun cars not daily drivers, so for the money i'd be going to swiftune for a new fun powerplant. Land Rover fine, lessens the fumes outside school when you go pick up Porscha and Tarquin. Middle of the range 911's yeah why not, plenty of them sat around with broken engines, but E-Type Jag? Nope. There are some classics where the engine is definitely part of the experience and those cars should be left well alone. Then you've still got the problems you get from middle of the road ev's, high entry price, range (100-200 miles quoted for most of these kits) & resale value. £65000 for an electric mini with 100ish mile range is something for die hard ev fanatics, not classic car fans. Also think its very dismissive to say the younger generation don't have much of a clue or interest in mechanical skills, especially in a video on youtube.
He shouldn't be allowed to touch any cars for turning works of art into EV pieces of trash. And those who actual paid for those conversions. They are not a car enthusiast. But can't knock his hustle when idiots want to pay for trash
EV powertrain swaps are what will keep classics alive. When the generation currently bogarting them die off the new owners won’t care about original parts. They will get LS swaps and Tesla swaps and those old motors will get tossed in the trash.
@@N911GT2 And a fossil fuel burning power plant working overtime to power them all, and lithium and cobalt being strip mined while leveling mountains and poisoning water.
EVs may have fewer parts, but the ones they do have are finicky, troublesome and have the added nonsense of having to be programmed to work with the vehicle. It was a better thing to just have to mechanically bolt a nonstandard engine into a chassis that wasn't originally made for it and get it to run through straightforward wrenching. Adding complexity is not progress.
Some people in this comment section seem to have big problems. EVs are not a conspiracy trying to forbid fun. They are only the product of humanity’s negligence. So take a step down and chill out you will not die simply because people convert classic cars to EVs you would also not die if someday ICE cars were extinct.
You might quite literally die, because these kits are notoriously dangerous because the batteries aren't well protected and can burst into flames much more easily in an accident than on EV production cars.
@@jovar.3649EVs are literally planned economy. They could only become this "popular" artificially through literal legalized corruption schemes by governments (subsidies). The whole green movement is defined by this.
This guy should be lauded for converting our fun cars into EVs! Seriously. There are so many classics/restored cars and making my fun car something that I just plug/u plug drive is awesome!
You realize the whole point of this video is to talk about his business and story? Would you rather a classic car chassis sit and rot or get a new lease on life
And they say the young generation is lost. Rock on! And never be ashamed of your opinion and beliefs. Because more often than not, there are many of us that will agree
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End of the day, running and driving is always better than sitting and rotting (even if it's garaged). As much as I prefer internal combustion over electric, I'd rather see classics on the road, than hidden away somewhere never to see the light of day again.
Finally a reasonable take on this I feel the exact same. BUUUUUT this guy talks about the grid not being able to support the draw WELL that’s exactly what’s going to happen when everyone is forced into evs
@@None_yabusiness69420 Yes when everyone drives ellectric tomorrow. but this will be a process stretching 20-30 years. we switched in 20 years from horse to cars vom 1900 to 1920. its much easier to just switch the energy source. And look up how much electricity is already used in the oil and gasoline business
I agree I have a running pickup that's just to small for my work that's rotting and I feel bad every time I look at it 😢
Not my thing but a great option for plenty of cars with problematic drivetrains or that need heavy mechanical restoration. Fortunately these kits are straightforward to reverse. Awesome idea and the execution seems great.
The cool thing about what Fellten do is that they are bolt in conversions, meaning they are completely reversible!
Seems crazy that people hate on it! There’s tonnes of people out there butchering cars and doing irreversible damage, but not these guys!
Considering it started as a rolling shell headed for the scrap heap, I'm totally down with an EV restomod. That being said even if it was a runner, it was his car so he can do what he wants with it, and i can appreciate the time and effort that he put into it. Even if i dont totally agree with it.
Then it's probably best to leave the judging to the purists.
You'll only dilute the brand with your middle of the road approach.
It's Porsche.
Not Ford after all.
@Been.Here.Since.2007 Porsche elitists are the worst. His car, his money, his choice. Want to stop people from converting them? Buy the all for yourself.
@@BunkerBlog They're the worst because of people like this.
Leave them alone and don't meddle in their heritage and you won't have to deal with them.
Ferdinand created the most beautiful piece of engineering that needs very little tampering to keep it relevant in every decade.
Even more insufferable are electric car people.
❤
@Been.Here.Since.2007 How many vintage porsches are really getting EV swapped? What, 1%? Maybe 2%? There's always a place for "showroom spec" classic cars, but I don't think that future-proofing classics is a bad idea either. Both can exist side by side. And while yeah I agree Tesla fans are super annoying guys like the one in this video are a very different breed of "EV fan" than an Elon Musk fanboy.
@@BunkerBlog I'm an air cooled VW guy myself.
I think it's hilarious when they swap out the 1600cc for an huge electric motor.
Turn it into a Baja.
But I'm not going to mess with the Porsche moniker.
Sounds like this guy wants to churn them out and make a bunch of money at it.
Absolutely loving these people stepping up to make resto kits. What I think we need now are good hybrid retrofit kits, particularly diesel electric for trucks (referring to EdisonMotors but haven't been hearing very good things with them recently ;-; )
Chris is a #LEGEND in person, I had the pleasure thanks to #Petrolheadonism 😎👍👋 , these cars are done sympathetically which is great love the Mini 🤯
Chris is such an awesome guy, hat chance to meet him in London at event, you can really see his passion for building such a great EV cars, and Fellten as a company great work
Any wreck salvage coverted to EV is just awesome to me.
Would you drive an EV Converted classic car?
It depends
Nope!!
No way! V-8 forever. To convert a classic car to electric is sacrilege
If it was a car that was notorious for having a boat motor then yeah, still depends on what it is though.
Hell yes, driving an electric converted Porsche 911 G body daily.
Gasoline forever!
I will maintain the biggest problem with EV's is energy storage. I'm surprised more hybrids don't have a drive system like the Karma. Those diesel locomotives nowadays nowadays utilize an engine powering a generator, which is powering traction motors. Another thing would be doing propane or CNG conversion, we utilize existing technologies, and we don't have a lot of the emissions issues diesel fuel or gasoline has.
Gasoline is outdated smelly and polluting. This is the perfect combo. You’re just to dumb to understand it.
With EV conversations you have many other problems that are critical. Weight distribution for example will be completely messed up, and the batteries will not be well protected and in slight accidents could burst into flames easily.
In Australia we had LPG, which burns cleaner and higher octane than petrol, and despite pretty much pioneering the usage in cars, you basically can't get it anywhere anymore!
The Karma was a blistering success! Truly the prime example for how to move us forward.
They brag that Diesel-electric is the most efficient form of transportation but I only see Edison Motors transferring that tech to the road
If it pisses off the Porsche mooks, I'm all for it!
There's no way this can be cost effective. Your car your money.
The only person whose thoughts matter are the owners
I worked at Fellten and took a lot of the pictures that were shown! Awesome place with clever people doing cool EV things 🙂
Love me some engine noise, but EV conversions are sweet
The LandRover would be an automotive Push-me-pull-you.
I love watching his videos!!!!! Stoked to see this interview
Do I love this idea, not at all !
Do I respect the business for at least keeping classic chassis alive and useable instead of rotting away? YES!
If going electric “has to” happen, I would rather enjoy it in a car that doesn’t look like an oversized desktop computer .
I actually thought about doing this a few years ago . Well good for this guy I think it's a really cool idea .
Some people hate everything…just ask Karen she’ll be happy to tell you
If its wrecked or no one wants to fix then sure make ot a ev. Older generation keeps screaming sacrilege meanwhile its ok not to pay proper salaries to the younger gen them wounder why they cant afford it...
This was an excellent story! Would love an old Alpha EV’d!
I see the Porsche fairly often, as I live in the same town as Fellten. They don't make it obvious where the workshop is though
I would pay good money for a bolt in replacement EV kit for my classic pickup. EV's are so ridiculously expensive over here, it would be economical to import a kit and do it myself. But then the politicians slapped a 200% tax on EV cars to protect the local manufacturers. So it will still cost as much as a house.....
I don't know how much time you spend on semi/ automotive TH-cam but a couple of guys in Canada are in the process of developing a serial hybrid system for pickups. A diesel engine spins the generator, that charges the batteries, that supply the motor.
They are called Edison Motors and they already put that concept into a couple of semis.
Making classics relevant again.
Look, if he's restoring wrecked clasics and turning them electric to get them back on the road, then i can respect that, but i can't support modifyng perfectly good iconic cars to shove batteries on them
Not even classic wrecked junk deserves to be an ev, worst way to waste $$$
@@raould860 would you rather spend even more on shoving the wrong engine in? By the time you're messing up the original car it doesn't really matter how you do it, i don't like thoose porsche restomods with the LED headlights and similar BS on old cars either, even if they use the modern equivalent of the engine the original used. The porsche emorys i think they are?
The conversions he does are completely bolt in and reversible
@@Danarchy7 people just want to be mad cause it's all they have these days, I swear
Holley has a bolt in tesla set up for old trucks.
I wish I could afford this. More than likely I'll have to learn to do it myself. Purist can go suckit. The vintage car you turn your nose up to because you think it's junk, that's my treasure i can save with an EV Swap
I had a Spitfire I always thought would make a great EV swap.
I’d love one of those Minis.
This is awesome for sure. the future of retromods
I almost thought it was gonna be Rich Rebuilds😢
I had/have a client who has asked for a ev conversion and I went down the rabbit hole of conversion but then I realized that what we like about gas cars is everything that is terrible about them…….they stink they have too much service and service parts and the e clunky shifting transmissions………now I’m completely lost on ev conversion (and I like ev and own both ev n gas)……..keep shitty gas cars gas……ev is awesome just not in a classic car not designed in anyway to be ev……..like any modification there’s a advantage and disadvantage……..so you end up making excuses for issues
if you have the money you can get a really good classic ev conversion, but if you dont have the silly money needed you get what you said
(where cars given a choice they woud all be electric )
The thought of an electric E-Type sends chills down my spine.
an electric mini would be amazing to own
Your property your choice. Leave everyone else alone. Let the market decide.
That is the thing. The market isn't deciding. The government is, due to its subsidies. It's basically modern planned economy, a corruption scheme.
Of course that will lead to a lot of illogical and damaging decisions. Not only in the car market.
love ev conversions.
I have never driven an electric vehicle ill rent one some day but I drive to much for one and im not interested. I like Fuel 😊
Not a purist but if you are forced to repower your porsche an ev works for you go for it , I like my 2000 911 , it's plain , holds all my camping gear , gets great mpg an goes faster than i want a ticket for
996 EV swap would be so cool
🤣🤣🤣
The Voldemort game is strong with this one...
My dream conversion as of late is a Detroit powered Cybertruck with a 4-71 or 4-53 sticking out of the hood.
The problem with EV's are the EVangalists who use it as a political movement to get rid of real cars.
Tread on those who tread on you.
What is a real car!?
@@chrisspencer6502 One that doesn't require hours to fill-up
@@jovar.3649geez, just tell us you’re a Karen, ok?
@@RC-fp1tl Right after you tell me how much of a pushover you are
Petrol or Electric no matter, just exciting cars!!! ⚡️💯🔥
I mean if it's going to a junkyard anyway
As they should
Specific starts with an “s” (not a p).
So cool
People forgetting that they didnt put a cent into any of his cars
Neither have you, so by your logic your objectively terrible opinion is invalid. Not to mention what idiot would put money into something they don’t support?
If the original car's engine is nothing special (i.e. Citroën DS), or if the car is a total write-off, go for it
Don't be like Singer, cutting up perfectly fine cars to make them something else that can't be returned to original
Singer makes it better than original
@@Mr-pn2eh certainly doesn't drive better then an original, plus they price them out of existance. I would want to buy a 964, but 1. they didn't sell all that well to begin with, so their prices are already going up, and 2. companies like Singer cut up functional cars to turn them into million dollar collection pieces to sit in a garage, and never get driven again
Nah Singer make some pretty kickass designs
@@offbrandbiscuit sure, but don't cannibalise the already low supply of 964s to do it
I am Purists
Mini, maybe but classic minis are fun cars not daily drivers, so for the money i'd be going to swiftune for a new fun powerplant. Land Rover fine, lessens the fumes outside school when you go pick up Porscha and Tarquin. Middle of the range 911's yeah why not, plenty of them sat around with broken engines, but E-Type Jag? Nope. There are some classics where the engine is definitely part of the experience and those cars should be left well alone.
Then you've still got the problems you get from middle of the road ev's, high entry price, range (100-200 miles quoted for most of these kits) & resale value.
£65000 for an electric mini with 100ish mile range is something for die hard ev fanatics, not classic car fans.
Also think its very dismissive to say the younger generation don't have much of a clue or interest in mechanical skills, especially in a video on youtube.
He shouldn't be allowed to touch any cars for turning works of art into EV pieces of trash. And those who actual paid for those conversions. They are not a car enthusiast. But can't knock his hustle when idiots want to pay for trash
their cars, their passion, they do what they want to it - especially if they're having fun driving them!
EV powertrain swaps are what will keep classics alive. When the generation currently bogarting them die off the new owners won’t care about original parts. They will get LS swaps and Tesla swaps and those old motors will get tossed in the trash.
Most cult members are humorless folks.
JOHNNY SINS??
If the charging infrastructure and battery technology were where they need to be, I wouldn't mind it. As it is, it's a bad idea.
You don’t have electricity at your house? Where do you live? West Virginia? I’m so glad we have electricity down in Mississippi.
@@nathanking8396So you only drive around your house?
@@zach_diecast_mansur like 99.9% of people 99.9% of the time, yea. Just like you and most of the people you know.
@@zach_diecast_mansurin Europe there is a charger on every street corner. And every 20km on the highway.
@@N911GT2 And a fossil fuel burning power plant working overtime to power them all, and lithium and cobalt being strip mined while leveling mountains and poisoning water.
Not an air cooled porsche.. but a 996 or boxyer 987. Great
EVs may have fewer parts, but the ones they do have are finicky, troublesome and have the added nonsense of having to be programmed to work with the vehicle. It was a better thing to just have to mechanically bolt a nonstandard engine into a chassis that wasn't originally made for it and get it to run through straightforward wrenching. Adding complexity is not progress.
Some people in this comment section seem to have big problems. EVs are not a conspiracy trying to forbid fun. They are only the product of humanity’s negligence. So take a step down and chill out you will not die simply because people convert classic cars to EVs you would also not die if someday ICE cars were extinct.
Bullshit, it isn't a conspiracy! I agree with another commenter. Tread on those people who tread on you
@@jovar.3649i literally said that it is not a conspiracy. Frankly i dont get the point of your comment.
@@makr0295 Trends. Look with the development money is going towards. Ignore the signs at your peril
You might quite literally die, because these kits are notoriously dangerous because the batteries aren't well protected and can burst into flames much more easily in an accident than on EV production cars.
@@jovar.3649EVs are literally planned economy. They could only become this "popular" artificially through literal legalized corruption schemes by governments (subsidies). The whole green movement is defined by this.
This guy should be lauded for converting our fun cars into EVs! Seriously. There are so many classics/restored cars and making my fun car something that I just plug/u plug drive is awesome!
Well, if he makes them more fun, I really do not see the issue - plus these conversions are fully reversible, so happy days.
holy yappington
He should be in prison for doing that EV BS to classics!
ahahha, His car, his classic, his powertrain.
Bruh is it really that bad,cmon now ,you guys are just overreacting ,what he's doing is not illegal,lot of pepole are restoring classic cars
He should be president for what he’s doing. Keeping the old cars alive well into the future without them ending in a museum.
Brain dead
You realize the whole point of this video is to talk about his business and story? Would you rather a classic car chassis sit and rot or get a new lease on life
Bro, EVs are way worst for the environment than our cleanest burning gas and Diesel engines. The engines last more than 10 years too.
genuinely fake information, Electric motors last decades
@@jeromeandre4915 it’s the batteries boo boo! Geez. Not the motors! Omg 😱 I feel like I’m taking crazy pills 💊
@@Calichris2 batteries ALSO last decades, really.
@@jeromeandre4915 no they don’t! Even Tesla says 7-10 years. You’re uneducated on the subject.
@@Calichris2please show us where Tesla states battery last 7 years! (trying to educate myself see!)
Yeah converting rare ICE cars to EVs is sacrilegious
I'm a young car enthusiast and this is sacrilege at the highest level, that 911 or any classic car doesn't deserve this fate.
And they say the young generation is lost. Rock on! And never be ashamed of your opinion and beliefs. Because more often than not, there are many of us that will agree
Yak, electrifing Porsche,bad Taste
Found the guy who didn’t watch the vid
They're not making these cars anymore, so to turn them into glorified toasters is disgraceful
I haven’t watched the video and I hate him already.
The hatred is justified
Ev's simply just suck. Imagine all these conversions in 10 -20yrs time🤣🤣🤣, they will be outdated, not classic lumps of crap.
Well, then update them again!
Words are so easy to type
This is worse than ricing a car.