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You don't need a lot of money to be fashionable. I have tons of outfits that cost $30 and people compliment me all the time. You just gatta be smart with ur money and know where to shop.
Any advice on where to look? I check thrift stores but I tend to find old people clothes, athletic wear, or just basic guy stuff. The women section always has much better stuff
Finding a brand that fits your proportions is the best way to have a solid wardrobe. I found that Express always fit like a glove. I waited for good sales and I bought in bulk, $2 to $500 dollars a shipment . With the discounts and free shipping, my daily wear didn't cost terribly more than Walmart clothes. A dress coat and dress pant pair could cost as little as $200, but because of the fit and great colors, it looks like I wear $800 dollar suits. The only thing you can't go cheap on is footwear.
As you mentioned it in the video, will you also be making a specific video on 'dressing for the face'? I think it'd be really interesting to have a dedicated video with more examples of certain designers' styles working with different faces like the example you gave in the one video where you showed the clip of Hoyeon Jung walking for LV FW22. It'd also be a great gateway for the styling services that you'll be offering as there is not much easily digestible content out there on styling for the face, you'd have to go through a lot of different designers' shows and seasons to find out what aesthetic works for you
"If you want the benefit of being attractive, you need to be above average. Which means, doing things that people are not doing" That stuck with me. Very inspirational.
i’m not a man lol but I think that good eyebrows and hair that suits a person actually makes a huge difference. there are specific hairstyles which suit certian face shapes and change your looks drastically.
My experience- Suitable Hairstyle and good fashion sense will elevate your attractiveness, people will tend to give you a pass as an attractive person regardless of height and face features
I've never heard of the concept of Aesthetic Labour before but I really like it. As a woman I put a lot of time into how I dress and I think for a while society treated it as a "frivolous"/girly thing; but when you think about it what's so different about curating an outfit to, say, weightlifting for aesthetic purposes. Its still something that requires investment and study, and I think the impact it has is just as powerful, if not more for my female gaze. (I would prefer a guys outfit to show personality over muscles every time and I'm sure im not alone )
There is a bit of logical fallacy in that part of the video and your though process. The problem is - showing muscles IS showing personality , just majority of women dont like this type of personality. Its no different than wearing suit on the beach or a lot of golden chains. Its not that men are not showing who they are, its that women dont like men who are like that.
@@alexforce9 @Alex Force i think that is false, because most people are not invested in showing off their personality when trying to attract a mate, theyre trying to conform to an ideal of masculinity that they understand as "having bulging muscles" because they have a literal and visual understanding of masculinity. Women tend to be less literal and subjective in their interpretation of masculinity. It doesnt reflect who they are, just an ideal they are trying to pursue. That said, theres many men who are naturally more "macho" or have the kind of personality you speak of. Its just that... its only a personality type among many. While the video adresses a general tendency in men who don't know how to style themselves.
@@fcukyaas Trying to show of your masculinity in this way IS showing off your personality. Its even in the video itself. How women see those type of men is not macho - its "try hard". Try hard IS a personality type.
@@alexforce9 i get what you're saying- and i think what i said agrees, no "logical fallacy" because I was talking about dressing for the female gaze; for example if someone is tossing up wearing a loose fitting, jazzy patterned shirt but isn't sure if they should go for it because it doesn't show off their physique (what patriarchal standards tell men should be their defining feature); they might opt for a safe tight fitting black tee. Im just saying they shouldn't feel discouraged if they're looking to excite the female gaze because showing that side of your personality holds more currency with most women then the part of your personality that cares about muscles.
This video is fantastic. I also think that part of the problem is that most fast fashion retail stores, which is where most men shop from, sell generic clothing with basic colors. This is why i love finding unique pieces in large sizes in the women’s department. The quality and style is night and day.
Haha, and some women shop in men's section for more durable and simple things. 😁 Some people complain about lack of this and that in their own sections, but I think It's kinda cute when male and female closets... kinda help each other out if it makes sense.
The average quality of menswear is actually much higher than womenswear, if you just stop buying from fast fashion brands and go into mid to high quality clothes. Womenswear changes in fashion cycles that are much faster and therefore it is often not really meant to last (so it uses cheaper, often synthetic materials), and rather most of what you pay goes into the constant design work. Menswear is much more static and spends on quality material and construction instead, sometimes even forgetting that design is also important in fact. Don't believe me? Try to buy a 100% wool overcoat for women, then try for men. The latter is easy, the former near impossible unless going into astronomical prices.
Best video on men's fashion I've ever seen. Rational, well grounded in reality, perfectly explained and taking the face into account (which is the big elephant in the room that no fashion channel mentions). Amazing content.
Speaking as a woman, high quality men's fashion (especially as shown during that "what's stopping men from dressing like this" segment) costs a ridiculous amount of money. A single shirt being 60-70 dollars, a knit sweater or sweater vest is around 100 dollars starting price. Not only are they expensive but most brands that I hear of and have visited have a shit selection of men's clothes. Only 5-6 options at best, even some companies specifically for men P.s when I say "high quality" I mean "not Shein". Now actual high end men's fashion starts at around 400 dollars so...
Absolutely true, but you can buy most things (particularly coats, jackets and sweaters) for one tenth of the price second hand often. I do it all the time. And I *am* talking about actual high end stuff. I didn't have much success in actual thrift stores initially, but then I found basically an endless supply on modern apps like Vinted.
As a girl I don't really have a specific style cuz one day I dress all pink and feminine and then another day all black and emo 😂 it keeps changing and honestly it's just the way you style it and matching is super important. That's how I slay every aesthetic and style.
Also it is very important for men and women to dress according to the occasion. Some men tend to overdress (ex: wearing a suit when going to the countryside) when it isn't needed at all, according to female gaze and considering suits stylish in any situation
Do you really see that in real life? I tend to see the opposite: suits and dress shoes are barely worn outside of occasions. Even then, most men wear trashy running shoes, sports sunglasses etc. with their suits and it looks terrible.
I love that this channel, in general, is absolutely open about the truths, benefits and problems of attractiveness in general. The fact that this person states that "fashion is multiplicative" alone feels like someone is actually just saying it and not beating around the bush. It bothers people because they think attraction and beauty are necessities to be loved or wanted. They confused "attraction" with "bonding". You can become intimately bonded to, and attracted to, somebody who is not very conventionally attractive and there's nothing wrong with that. Beauty is one of many aspects and though it does come with a lot of benefits, it also has many risks to it. Although truthfully, attraction is a very powerful part of social interactions so it's fair for some people to be bothered by the thoughts that they are not considered beautiful. It's just the truth, though, that existing beauty is the foundation and everything beyond that is expressed BY your looks, not the other way around.
Bonding IS attraction. Love IS attraction. People don't have it confused, they are just in tune with their biological wiring. We've created a false a categorical difference between "love" and "attraction", when neurologically they do not exist. The feeling from our biological signalling that a man gets when he loves a woman is identical to the feeling one gets from seeing an attractive woman. It's not an illusion, its just how our brains work. Parents genuinely do love their more attractive offspring more, they're not imagining it, they are feeling it.
I feel it’s the same for women. There’s a lot of tacky, sleazy, too tight and flashy styles that people misconceive as “stylish”, when it’s really bad taste. I think covering the body with quality fabrics and tasteful colors for appropriate settings is more fashionable than naked dressing.
They are not trying to be stylish, it just conforms to their personality who like to fk around. They are being authentic to who they are and do not pretend to be anyone they are not.
A funny observation of mine is that in my experience women that dress the skimpiest often tend to wear the lowest quality clothes, which makes it so much worse. Like, if you actually want to wear a skimpy outfit, imo it is even *more* important that it's good quality and well designed if you want it to look sexy rather than tacky and bland, regardless of how much "genetically gifted" you are.
The climate analogy is what I needed. I have a lot of conflicting weather. I know enough about fashion, just needed a way to connect the seasons together.
This is so true, and I have tried to tell friends and anyone who will listen. People make excuses for why they look like shit then blame women for their lack of attraction
Dressing for the face is such an important yet overlooked thing. For example I'm a Cinderella type with tiny head, slim face and honey colour hair. Whenever I dress too chavy, ethnic or too heavy metal I look like a clown. I just go for minimalist "expensive" millennial or something really feminine. People often can't get why I feel more comfortable in a dress than in a tracksuit but it just feels good to look like yourself.
Yep. I have quite sharp features, nose bump and dark circles. I look decent in certain clothes, but if I'd try to wear cute pastel things with ruffles and flowers, I'll look like I've been dead for a month. 😁Visual contrast and all. (And I like cute things. They just look better on other people.)
@@KyleReeseCel2029 I hope I didn't offend you anyhow. Tbh I meant even ethnic patterns and styles of my own ethnolinguistic group (Slavic, not Anglo-Saxon).
I have been flipflopping between styles and it's such a drag. I've only ever felt comfortable wearing button downs and vests (with a suit jacket if it isn't too hot) since I was 15 -- had an interesting first career starting young that required this more classic yet individualized look. Now I realize that I only ever feel like myself when wearing it. Why not just wear it all the time -- it can be varied up so easily while keeping the same style -- if it makes me stretch out my body language and feel cozy in my own skin (vests give a strangely armored feeling that relaxes me). I have never seen a video so well done explaining why things just don't work with fashion advice. Thanks QOVES. PS: People treat me better when I'm dressed like myself. That means better days for this guy
Easily my favourite men's fashion video on TH-cam, I agree with your analysis of the state of men's fashion and your recommendations for making wise stylistic choices. Thank you!
As a gym rat this has opened my eyes lol. I always wore those tight muscel tees and normal fit jeans. The goal of my clothing was to expose my muscel no personality no perosnal expression just raw meat lol. Even tho I did get alot attention and compliments I feel like it was a bit try hard and I'm bored of it. It's time to make my fashion sense more complex and add depth
Theres nothing wrong with tight tees. Obviously a more feminine man (the stylist criticizing the style) will feel some type of way seeing masculine men wearing tight shirts. You dont gotta go that tight, but biology does not lie, girls like muscles more than they like Korean - Wasian core drip. Especially as women get older. Thats why there are so many pictures of that obnoxiously super tight fitted style, it clearly has worked for those people. You can maybe go a size up and dress up your pants to elevate your style; but you dont need to watch fashion shows. At a certain point, too much style can be repulsive because fashion is inherently a feminine trait.
As a man who has developed his own personal style and received a lot of good feedback from it, this video is pretty accurate. The summary says it all. My bonus tip, mix fashion & function.
Mens fashion sucks because most major stores have limited styles for men. As well the styles they pick mostly suck. The good stuff is a lot more expensive, and not available in big or tall sizes. Women don't have these issues to deal with.
6.01 As a man who looks for his fits, the aesthetic labour is so real. Scouring the internet for inspirations that will suit ME (read: my face, age, physical attributes, proportions, skin tone, the occasion, etc.) is such a work. But I am enjoying it. It could be expensive sometimes but we can tend to build capsule wardrobe and immediately look better than an average joe.
I always liked Frugal Aesthetic's videos. Straight to the point and doesnt even really sell anything, just follow these guidelines and if its cheap its good
It felt akwkard trying to find my style. But what helped me is understanding color palettes and learning what colors went well together. Then finding my style became so much easier
This video really opened my eyes! I somewhat recently began upgrading my wardrobe but so many of my pieces were picked simply because I thought they looked cool but what does a black pair of jeans and a vans tee shirt say about me? Not much. I don’t wanna just blend in anymore. I feel like I’ve been stifling my creative disposition in my outfits and I’m excited to explore and break the mold a little. Great examples and explanations! So many fashion channels simply read a list of trends and forget to and any humanity but I really connected with the argument posed here, thanks!
I have a theory that not dressing for your face is one of the biggest causes of clothing purchases that people go on to regret or never wear: Whenever i have too many clothing items on my wishlist, i make a point of going back, looking at the on-body shots of each item, and actually imagining *my* face in the photo instead of the model's. A lot of the time I will quickly realise that that jacket or pair of trousers that i *thought* i absolutely loved, actually wouldn't look right on me AT ALL, because it doesnt work with my face - doing this helps me eliminate a ton of items from my wishlist, and since i started doing this two or three years ago ive only really bought one item that i ended up regretting. This is obviously important for shopping online, but it's also important for shopping in person; that one item i regretted I actually bought in person, but while I was trying it on, I wasn't paying attention to how it fit my face - in fact, i honestly might even have been imagining the face of some model i'd seen wearing something similar, that gave me the idea for that item in the first place. The other thing is, when you imagine your face in something you don't just start thinking about whether it fits your face, but also whether it fits your personality, whether it feels "like you"; that helps a ton with the other aim of making your style an artistic expression of yourself.
awesome video! I 100% agree with your philosophy. getting into fashion the last year has really changed how I view clothes as an expression of self vs a purely functional thing
Just keep your body shape in mind for the fit that looks best on you and you skin tone, or better undertone for what colours look good on you. Then it's just a matter of which style fits your face and taste and what clothes match.
This is actually useful! Identifying what sort of style goes w your personality and appearance it's super important, then u can start building your wardrobe from there
I'd like to add that if you already look close to a certain archetype, it's probably wise not to dress like an opposite archetype even if you feel like that inside. Like if you look similar to Dwayne Johnson it's best not to dress like a slim guy from an indie rock band. And the other way around. I saw some people who looked nice totally butchered their looks, trying to do this, cause they thought that they felt different then their face looks. Like someone with Jude Law's potential was trying to be a Dwalin dwarf or something. It kinda hurts my feelings.
@@saltator8565 I mean, to be fair, there are probably more than 100 types of black men appearances and fitting styles. Maybe you can find a compromise or smth. How do you wanna dress? 👀
@@sakurazukamorisubaru No he's right. Minorities literally cannot dress outside of your phenotype or else it looks really weird and women stop talking to us. I've tested this extensively. People WANT stereotypes. It's the hard truth of reality.
@@JesusChrist2000BC I'm not a minority and not from America, where it's probably more serious issue. But like... can't you use stereotypes from entertainment idustry? I think there are tons of famous people or characters with all types of body and face that you can use as a reference even if you black. If he looks like Jason Derulo, for example, and wants to dress like a small cute kpop boy it probably won't work, but he can dress like Jason Derulo and it will work. Also, the styles and actual items can intersect. Like colorfull hoodies and jewellery. It will feel different tho.
qoves your advice on everything has really changed my outlook on things. I went into this year 5'6 220 and I'm now going into my sophomore year of highschool 5'9 170. I'm starting to build a physique and this video is perfectly timed as I'm looking for new clothes
I have my own style but people around me starts dying inside the second I voice it. One example is SpongeBob t-shirt, tucked in the shorts and wear a slippers with lon socks and that's it.
There needs to be an in-depth analysis on men's hair, especially for the under represented races cos women's hair there are thousands of videos and most women can pull of very similar hairstyles but with guys, it's a make or break kinda thing, so difficult and so much effort to find the right style to have and what suits Ur face especially if Ur unattractive
I highly recommend Ashley Weston for the basics, like how clothes should fit, colors that match/clash and other basic rules, e.g. keep all leather the same color.
Personally I don’t care very much about how men dress, as long as his clothes is clean LOL but I have plenty of friends that really do, this is a great video.
I really recommend second hand stores for blazers and suits. A blazer is easy to throw on with a clean shirt and well fitting pants. You'll look much more mature, put together and stylish.
PS I've dated guys with custom suits (who will tell you it's custom, ergh) and honestly I would have been just as happy if they had worn a thrifted blazer or one from Zara. You don't need to spend 3k, it's fine.
I think trying too hard is unattractive for men. And this is what wearing fancy, irregular clothes convey. I think it’s much more attractive to find something basic, but suitable. A simple t shirt that goes well with you hair colour for example, is what I believe to be much more attractive than super individual fancy clothing. But I’m a guy so women may see things differently.
i dunno it feels like the video is suggesting a lot of methods, but i think it matters to ask why dressing up as well... with some sort of goal (for fun, for acceptance by some group, or to get a girlfriend) one will find their motivation and their specific way (say dressing up for girls then u hv certain way to know what girls like) criticising y one doesnt dress up, saying one is lazy or not doing the aesthetic labour, without illustrating a picture of y doing so is making it so boring and tiring...becos dressing up is about fun and accomplishment not just responsibility... but i guess some people prefer practical rules and instruction that makes them feel safe and things are manageable... but the youtube fashion content recommendation is definitely tasteful !!!!! frugal and daniel are both so great!!!! if people need to feel comfortable with dressing up and presenting themselves and just to enjoy to look good, they can also check out icykof's the unknown vlog channel, he is doing sick street interviews with stylish passengers from all over the world
There’s not many stylish people out there and style is different from fashion, fashion is too trendy while style is understanding what fabrics compliment each other and not having too many of one thing buttons, zippers etc.
I don't really care how a guy dresses tbh. Anytype of basic/utilitarian is fine. Physically I care more about face/body. We can always get you a better fit.
Look for kibbe style as well helps you understand your body type but it takes passion, your body is not a one size fits all, it’s unique so treats it as it is
IMO good style has 3 parts 1. Dress to your traits/lifestyle, or at very least the traits you want to become. There needs to be a congruency between your clothing and who you are/want to be. 2. FIt. Your clothing is in a way, makeup for your body. You need to dress in a way that compliments your body and makes your frame look better and your body more proportional. There are also ways to "tease" through clothing ex: through jewelry and showing neck/wrists etc. 3. Minimalism. Do not be the guy who looks like he spent an hour on his outfit. You want it to be simple. You dont want to stand out too much, but also look excellent in your clothing. Theres a balance. Nailing looking good w/o trying hard is an art. But its a big turn off if you look like fashion is a huge part of you life, because it shows you arent doing more important things.
you don't understand, I am from a country that is >30 degrees celcius and the humidity of a rainforest year round, wearing anything more than a T shirt outdoors will have you sweating like you just stopped out of a swimming pool in 5 minutes
I usually stick to wearing black skinny jeans (Amazon Basics), Ferragamo belt, Vans perforated black leather slip-on, and a tucked in loose fitted button down shirts that look Prada (Walmart Brand), and I do get complimented all the time.
I prefer the Italian idea of "easy natural fashion." Essentially its a style where you choose things that look good but it seems easy to do. That's why I have short hair with a fade, shave with a safety razor and wear conservative clothes like jeans and a black shirt but I might have a nice belt. All together its not a lot of work but it does make you stand out and is easy to maintain. I also lift weights but don't roid and do cardio so I still look better than others in that aspect but it's easy to do and looks natural as well.
Well defined video , men can’t dress up that are are not 💯, I am corporate consultant and i feel absolutely conforming and confident in Suits , so much so given the chance I can wear them most of time ))
mate did you rush the editing? there's a lot of unnatural pauses or overlapping audio in the video. Just wanted to point that out, the rest of the video (content, visuals) is great, I learned a lot
Just speaking generally, I never understand how some people can be so tasteless when it comes to fashion. I instinctually know what I love and what I love automatically always seems to suit my natural features.
Lol this comment made me literally pause in thought for so long because I could think of some many reasons… but I’m sure that was not the point of the statement.
I've been on my Style Journey for some years now and I am regarded as very fashionable amongst my Peers. One thing though that grinds my Gears is that I Just Don't have the Body Type to wear a Lot of different types of clothing. At 5'8 with a muscular physique Most Stuff is Just either way too tight or way too Long depending on the size I try on
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Intellectual TikTok fashion is an oxymoron.
Her channel is about judging men for not dressing the way she'd like them to. That's all there is.
You don't need a lot of money to be fashionable. I have tons of outfits that cost $30 and people compliment me all the time. You just gatta be smart with ur money and know where to shop.
Or better, tailor them
Any advice on where to look? I check thrift stores but I tend to find old people clothes, athletic wear, or just basic guy stuff. The women section always has much better stuff
@@gilangridhoutama that is something beyond our control so main focus should be on things which we can like how to dressup
yeah the outfits at 5:20 didn't even look that bougie
what's your go-to store?
Been thinking about the terrible Mens fashion channels that exist and you drop this bomb - thank you
If you are Brad Pitt anything works.
@@unknowninfinium4353 adding more : if you wanna impress 40 year old latino woman just become chayanne
Finding a brand that fits your proportions is the best way to have a solid wardrobe. I found that Express always fit like a glove. I waited for good sales and I bought in bulk, $2 to $500 dollars a shipment . With the discounts and free shipping, my daily wear didn't cost terribly more than Walmart clothes. A dress coat and dress pant pair could cost as little as $200, but because of the fit and great colors, it looks like I wear $800 dollar suits. The only thing you can't go cheap on is footwear.
As you mentioned it in the video, will you also be making a specific video on 'dressing for the face'? I think it'd be really interesting to have a dedicated video with more examples of certain designers' styles working with different faces like the example you gave in the one video where you showed the clip of Hoyeon Jung walking for LV FW22. It'd also be a great gateway for the styling services that you'll be offering as there is not much easily digestible content out there on styling for the face, you'd have to go through a lot of different designers' shows and seasons to find out what aesthetic works for you
You could look into face essences or kibbe styling..most of it is directed at women but it works like character design and is universal.
Yes I agree Neil he should make that video
"If you want the benefit of being attractive, you need to be above average. Which means, doing things that people are not doing" That stuck with me. Very inspirational.
i’m not a man lol but I think that good eyebrows and hair that suits a person actually makes a huge difference. there are specific hairstyles which suit certian face shapes and change your looks drastically.
This is not the subject of the video
@@MrEysox
And yet a good point to make
@@MrEysox your hairstyle compliments your style so i think it's related in a way
What if you're balding
My experience- Suitable Hairstyle and good fashion sense will elevate your attractiveness, people will tend to give you a pass as an attractive person regardless of height and face features
I’m told I dress like a “metrosexual, indie rock kid.” And I chalk that up to me buying all my clothes from thrift stores lol
that is a compliment
That's a compliment
that's a compliment
biggest compliment I've ever heard /gen
I've never heard of the concept of Aesthetic Labour before but I really like it. As a woman I put a lot of time into how I dress and I think for a while society treated it as a "frivolous"/girly thing; but when you think about it what's so different about curating an outfit to, say, weightlifting for aesthetic purposes. Its still something that requires investment and study, and I think the impact it has is just as powerful, if not more for my female gaze. (I would prefer a guys outfit to show personality over muscles every time and I'm sure im not alone )
You are not alone ☺️
There is a bit of logical fallacy in that part of the video and your though process. The problem is - showing muscles IS showing personality , just majority of women dont like this type of personality. Its no different than wearing suit on the beach or a lot of golden chains. Its not that men are not showing who they are, its that women dont like men who are like that.
@@alexforce9 @Alex Force i think that is false, because most people are not invested in showing off their personality when trying to attract a mate, theyre trying to conform to an ideal of masculinity that they understand as "having bulging muscles" because they have a literal and visual understanding of masculinity. Women tend to be less literal and subjective in their interpretation of masculinity. It doesnt reflect who they are, just an ideal they are trying to pursue.
That said, theres many men who are naturally more "macho" or have the kind of personality you speak of. Its just that... its only a personality type among many. While the video adresses a general tendency in men who don't know how to style themselves.
@@fcukyaas Trying to show of your masculinity in this way IS showing off your personality. Its even in the video itself. How women see those type of men is not macho - its "try hard". Try hard IS a personality type.
@@alexforce9 i get what you're saying- and i think what i said agrees, no "logical fallacy" because I was talking about dressing for the female gaze; for example if someone is tossing up wearing a loose fitting, jazzy patterned shirt but isn't sure if they should go for it because it doesn't show off their physique (what patriarchal standards tell men should be their defining feature); they might opt for a safe tight fitting black tee. Im just saying they shouldn't feel discouraged if they're looking to excite the female gaze because showing that side of your personality holds more currency with most women then the part of your personality that cares about muscles.
thanks for being unapolagetically yourself. actually very refreshing to see someone who just says whats on their mind.
This video is fantastic. I also think that part of the problem is that most fast fashion retail stores, which is where most men shop from, sell generic clothing with basic colors. This is why i love finding unique pieces in large sizes in the women’s department. The quality and style is night and day.
Haha, and some women shop in men's section for more durable and simple things. 😁
Some people complain about lack of this and that in their own sections, but I think It's kinda cute when male and female closets... kinda help each other out if it makes sense.
The average quality of menswear is actually much higher than womenswear, if you just stop buying from fast fashion brands and go into mid to high quality clothes. Womenswear changes in fashion cycles that are much faster and therefore it is often not really meant to last (so it uses cheaper, often synthetic materials), and rather most of what you pay goes into the constant design work. Menswear is much more static and spends on quality material and construction instead, sometimes even forgetting that design is also important in fact.
Don't believe me? Try to buy a 100% wool overcoat for women, then try for men. The latter is easy, the former near impossible unless going into astronomical prices.
Best video on men's fashion I've ever seen. Rational, well grounded in reality, perfectly explained and taking the face into account (which is the big elephant in the room that no fashion channel mentions). Amazing content.
Frugal Aesthetic is one of my go to recently.
So good
Speaking as a woman, high quality men's fashion (especially as shown during that "what's stopping men from dressing like this" segment) costs a ridiculous amount of money. A single shirt being 60-70 dollars, a knit sweater or sweater vest is around 100 dollars starting price. Not only are they expensive but most brands that I hear of and have visited have a shit selection of men's clothes. Only 5-6 options at best, even some companies specifically for men
P.s when I say "high quality" I mean "not Shein". Now actual high end men's fashion starts at around 400 dollars so...
Why do you like strawberries so much? 😂
@@jameelahomoyele4852 why not?
Huh. Can't argue with that 😅.
Funny that men with an own style can find high quality pieces at the thrift store.
You have to make the efford to develop an own style.
Absolutely true, but you can buy most things (particularly coats, jackets and sweaters) for one tenth of the price second hand often. I do it all the time. And I *am* talking about actual high end stuff.
I didn't have much success in actual thrift stores initially, but then I found basically an endless supply on modern apps like Vinted.
As a girl I don't really have a specific style cuz one day I dress all pink and feminine and then another day all black and emo 😂 it keeps changing and honestly it's just the way you style it and matching is super important. That's how I slay every aesthetic and style.
Also it is very important for men and women to dress according to the occasion. Some men tend to overdress (ex: wearing a suit when going to the countryside) when it isn't needed at all, according to female gaze and considering suits stylish in any situation
Do you really see that in real life? I tend to see the opposite: suits and dress shoes are barely worn outside of occasions. Even then, most men wear trashy running shoes, sports sunglasses etc. with their suits and it looks terrible.
@@relod1987 sadly yeah, i personally know these people
Style is a journey. Like anything, you will never start at the top. It takes persistence and drive to make it happen.
I love that this channel, in general, is absolutely open about the truths, benefits and problems of attractiveness in general. The fact that this person states that "fashion is multiplicative" alone feels like someone is actually just saying it and not beating around the bush. It bothers people because they think attraction and beauty are necessities to be loved or wanted. They confused "attraction" with "bonding". You can become intimately bonded to, and attracted to, somebody who is not very conventionally attractive and there's nothing wrong with that. Beauty is one of many aspects and though it does come with a lot of benefits, it also has many risks to it. Although truthfully, attraction is a very powerful part of social interactions so it's fair for some people to be bothered by the thoughts that they are not considered beautiful. It's just the truth, though, that existing beauty is the foundation and everything beyond that is expressed BY your looks, not the other way around.
Bonding IS attraction. Love IS attraction. People don't have it confused, they are just in tune with their biological wiring. We've created a false a categorical difference between "love" and "attraction", when neurologically they do not exist. The feeling from our biological signalling that a man gets when he loves a woman is identical to the feeling one gets from seeing an attractive woman.
It's not an illusion, its just how our brains work. Parents genuinely do love their more attractive offspring more, they're not imagining it, they are feeling it.
I feel it’s the same for women. There’s a lot of tacky, sleazy, too tight and flashy styles that people misconceive as “stylish”, when it’s really bad taste. I think covering the body with quality fabrics and tasteful colors for appropriate settings is more fashionable than naked dressing.
They are not trying to be stylish, it just conforms to their personality who like to fk around. They are being authentic to who they are and do not pretend to be anyone they are not.
A funny observation of mine is that in my experience women that dress the skimpiest often tend to wear the lowest quality clothes, which makes it so much worse. Like, if you actually want to wear a skimpy outfit, imo it is even *more* important that it's good quality and well designed if you want it to look sexy rather than tacky and bland, regardless of how much "genetically gifted" you are.
The climate analogy is what I needed. I have a lot of conflicting weather. I know enough about fashion, just needed a way to connect the seasons together.
This is so true, and I have tried to tell friends and anyone who will listen. People make excuses for why they look like shit then blame women for their lack of attraction
had to wait a lot for this but damn this production value is big
Dressing for the face is such an important yet overlooked thing. For example I'm a Cinderella type with tiny head, slim face and honey colour hair. Whenever I dress too chavy, ethnic or too heavy metal I look like a clown. I just go for minimalist "expensive" millennial or something really feminine. People often can't get why I feel more comfortable in a dress than in a tracksuit but it just feels good to look like yourself.
Ethnic is short for ethnicity not people who are not white.
Yep. I have quite sharp features, nose bump and dark circles. I look decent in certain clothes, but if I'd try to wear cute pastel things with ruffles and flowers, I'll look like I've been dead for a month. 😁Visual contrast and all.
(And I like cute things. They just look better on other people.)
@@KyleReeseCel2029 I hope I didn't offend you anyhow. Tbh I meant even ethnic patterns and styles of my own ethnolinguistic group (Slavic, not Anglo-Saxon).
@@KyleReeseCel2029 Bro, ethnicity is used for every single ethnicity, white or not
@@whynot6266 How did my statement not make that clear?
This is so true and so deep. Which, unfortunately, makes it so much harder because most of us don’t know ourselves deeply
Watching more of the video, I find it more and more of a great and helpful find. I will definitely save it and watch a couple more times
I have been flipflopping between styles and it's such a drag. I've only ever felt comfortable wearing button downs and vests (with a suit jacket if it isn't too hot) since I was 15 -- had an interesting first career starting young that required this more classic yet individualized look.
Now I realize that I only ever feel like myself when wearing it. Why not just wear it all the time -- it can be varied up so easily while keeping the same style -- if it makes me stretch out my body language and feel cozy in my own skin (vests give a strangely armored feeling that relaxes me).
I have never seen a video so well done explaining why things just don't work with fashion advice. Thanks QOVES.
PS: People treat me better when I'm dressed like myself. That means better days for this guy
Easily my favourite men's fashion video on TH-cam, I agree with your analysis of the state of men's fashion and your recommendations for making wise stylistic choices. Thank you!
As a gym rat this has opened my eyes lol. I always wore those tight muscel tees and normal fit jeans. The goal of my clothing was to expose my muscel no personality no perosnal expression just raw meat lol. Even tho I did get alot attention and compliments I feel like it was a bit try hard and I'm bored of it. It's time to make my fashion sense more complex and add depth
Tight clothes to show your muscles? Do you even know what you are doing will you accept if you are wife dresses provocatively
Theres nothing wrong with tight tees. Obviously a more feminine man (the stylist criticizing the style) will feel some type of way seeing masculine men wearing tight shirts. You dont gotta go that tight, but biology does not lie, girls like muscles more than they like Korean - Wasian core drip. Especially as women get older. Thats why there are so many pictures of that obnoxiously super tight fitted style, it clearly has worked for those people. You can maybe go a size up and dress up your pants to elevate your style; but you dont need to watch fashion shows. At a certain point, too much style can be repulsive because fashion is inherently a feminine trait.
Hands down one of the best male fashion related video in youtube. Thank you for making this!
As a man who has developed his own personal style and received a lot of good feedback from it, this video is pretty accurate.
The summary says it all.
My bonus tip, mix fashion & function.
Mens fashion sucks because most major stores have limited styles for men. As well the styles they pick mostly suck. The good stuff is a lot more expensive, and not available in big or tall sizes. Women don't have these issues to deal with.
6.01 As a man who looks for his fits, the aesthetic labour is so real. Scouring the internet for inspirations that will suit ME (read: my face, age, physical attributes, proportions, skin tone, the occasion, etc.) is such a work. But I am enjoying it. It could be expensive sometimes but we can tend to build capsule wardrobe and immediately look better than an average joe.
Thanks for condesing a lot of useful information in 11 minutes unlike those channels that talk for hours and say nothing of value.
I always liked Frugal Aesthetic's videos. Straight to the point and doesnt even really sell anything, just follow these guidelines and if its cheap its good
It felt akwkard trying to find my style. But what helped me is understanding color palettes and learning what colors went well together. Then finding my style became so much easier
This video really opened my eyes!
I somewhat recently began upgrading my wardrobe but so many of my pieces were picked simply because I thought they looked cool but what does a black pair of jeans and a vans tee shirt say about me? Not much. I don’t wanna just blend in anymore. I feel like I’ve been stifling my creative disposition in my outfits and I’m excited to explore and break the mold a little. Great examples and explanations! So many fashion channels simply read a list of trends and forget to and any humanity but I really connected with the argument posed here, thanks!
It's crazy how different I see the trousers you say you rock compared to something I'd like to wear but I respect that you put your views out there
I hate when women say "why can't men dress like this? or what's stopping men from dressing like this?" and then show pics of models.
I have a theory that not dressing for your face is one of the biggest causes of clothing purchases that people go on to regret or never wear:
Whenever i have too many clothing items on my wishlist, i make a point of going back, looking at the on-body shots of each item, and actually imagining *my* face in the photo instead of the model's. A lot of the time I will quickly realise that that jacket or pair of trousers that i *thought* i absolutely loved, actually wouldn't look right on me AT ALL, because it doesnt work with my face - doing this helps me eliminate a ton of items from my wishlist, and since i started doing this two or three years ago ive only really bought one item that i ended up regretting.
This is obviously important for shopping online, but it's also important for shopping in person; that one item i regretted I actually bought in person, but while I was trying it on, I wasn't paying attention to how it fit my face - in fact, i honestly might even have been imagining the face of some model i'd seen wearing something similar, that gave me the idea for that item in the first place.
The other thing is, when you imagine your face in something you don't just start thinking about whether it fits your face, but also whether it fits your personality, whether it feels "like you"; that helps a ton with the other aim of making your style an artistic expression of yourself.
awesome video! I 100% agree with your philosophy. getting into fashion the last year has really changed how I view clothes as an expression of self vs a purely functional thing
This channel is the most useful resource in improving my looks. You're advice is very objective and well researched. Thank you
Definetly want to recommend Tim Dessaint on youtube! I personally got a lot out of his videos and positive vibes.
Yo samee
Just keep your body shape in mind for the fit that looks best on you and you skin tone, or better undertone for what colours look good on you. Then it's just a matter of which style fits your face and taste and what clothes match.
This is actually useful! Identifying what sort of style goes w your personality and appearance it's super important, then u can start building your wardrobe from there
I'm glad you talk about this
This channel is on another level 🔥
I'd like to add that if you already look close to a certain archetype, it's probably wise not to dress like an opposite archetype even if you feel like that inside. Like if you look similar to Dwayne Johnson it's best not to dress like a slim guy from an indie rock band. And the other way around.
I saw some people who looked nice totally butchered their looks, trying to do this, cause they thought that they felt different then their face looks. Like someone with Jude Law's potential was trying to be a Dwalin dwarf or something. It kinda hurts my feelings.
This is my biggest issue. I'm a black guy, so I'll get clowned on if I dress the way I actually want to 😩
@@saltator8565 I mean, to be fair, there are probably more than 100 types of black men appearances and fitting styles. Maybe you can find a compromise or smth.
How do you wanna dress? 👀
@@sakurazukamorisubaru No he's right. Minorities literally cannot dress outside of your phenotype or else it looks really weird and women stop talking to us. I've tested this extensively. People WANT stereotypes. It's the hard truth of reality.
@@JesusChrist2000BC It’s not something easy to understand unless you’ve seen it up close. You’re correct, but it changes during adulthood
@@JesusChrist2000BC I'm not a minority and not from America, where it's probably more serious issue. But like... can't you use stereotypes from entertainment idustry? I think there are tons of famous people or characters with all types of body and face that you can use as a reference even if you black.
If he looks like Jason Derulo, for example, and wants to dress like a small cute kpop boy it probably won't work, but he can dress like Jason Derulo and it will work. Also, the styles and actual items can intersect. Like colorfull hoodies and jewellery. It will feel different tho.
qoves your advice on everything has really changed my outlook on things. I went into this year 5'6 220 and I'm now going into my sophomore year of highschool 5'9 170. I'm starting to build a physique and this video is perfectly timed as I'm looking for new clothes
Congrats!
Wish I had those height genetics
@@argon389 Trust me both my parents are short, my dad is Indonesian idk where it came from
GOD QOVES you’re always always on point. I love you.
Hope this video gets millions and millions of views 👏🏼
The problem statement was spot on! The first commentator had me rolling. 😂🤣😂🤣
I have my own style but people around me starts dying inside the second I voice it. One example is SpongeBob t-shirt, tucked in the shorts and wear a slippers with lon socks and that's it.
That’s so dope!
@@miguelvega2814 lmao 🤣 it is? Oh god.
So you have the style of a toddler
@@SoWhosGae fucking absolutely. You goddamn right. And I'm proud of it.
@@Isaah.i Well at least you know it
Just was talking to my male friend about style and fashion, hope he'll see this vid!
I did NOT expect this video to be so GOOD
Can we get a women's version too! I loved this!
There needs to be an in-depth analysis on men's hair, especially for the under represented races cos women's hair there are thousands of videos and most women can pull of very similar hairstyles but with guys, it's a make or break kinda thing, so difficult and so much effort to find the right style to have and what suits Ur face especially if Ur unattractive
The underrepresented race thing hits hard. Also our variety of hairstyles as men is so limited it’s very annoying.
I'm mixed race, and it's SUPER hard to find anyone who can work with my hair.😂
Perfect timing, bless boss man🙏
finally not a advice video where they mention a sponsor and try to sell you something, thank you
I highly recommend Ashley Weston for the basics, like how clothes should fit, colors that match/clash and other basic rules, e.g. keep all leather the same color.
This is so well made, great job bro👏🏼
8:00 onward is definitely great.
This video is a gold mine
college gonna start in some time. The timing couldnt be better
Personally I don’t care very much about how men dress, as long as his clothes is clean LOL but I have plenty of friends that really do, this is a great video.
been struggling with finding my style and where to buy clothes all throughout summer so this video really helped! 🙌
I really recommend second hand stores for blazers and suits. A blazer is easy to throw on with a clean shirt and well fitting pants. You'll look much more mature, put together and stylish.
PS I've dated guys with custom suits (who will tell you it's custom, ergh) and honestly I would have been just as happy if they had worn a thrifted blazer or one from Zara. You don't need to spend 3k, it's fine.
I think trying too hard is unattractive for men. And this is what wearing fancy, irregular clothes convey. I think it’s much more attractive to find something basic, but suitable. A simple t shirt that goes well with you hair colour for example, is what I believe to be much more attractive than super individual fancy clothing. But I’m a guy so women may see things differently.
This is your best video yet
As a woman i literally learned so much especially store wise as im thinking about adding more boyish/tomboy accents to my clothing
I am so thankful for finding this video! Thank you!
Local thrift stores are a goldmine for those looking to build a drippy wardrobe without breaking the bank or contributing to fast fashion companies ✌🏼
i dunno it feels like the video is suggesting a lot of methods, but i think it matters to ask why dressing up as well...
with some sort of goal (for fun, for acceptance by some group, or to get a girlfriend) one will find their motivation and their specific way (say dressing up for girls then u hv certain way to know what girls like)
criticising y one doesnt dress up, saying one is lazy or not doing the aesthetic labour, without illustrating a picture of y doing so is making it so boring and tiring...becos dressing up is about fun and accomplishment not just responsibility...
but i guess some people prefer practical rules and instruction that makes them feel safe and things are manageable...
but the youtube fashion content recommendation is definitely tasteful !!!!! frugal and daniel are both so great!!!!
if people need to feel comfortable with dressing up and presenting themselves and just to enjoy to look good, they can also check out icykof's the unknown vlog channel, he is doing sick street interviews with stylish passengers from all over the world
can you make a guide of face shapes to different aesthetics? I'm still struggling with what you mean.
this video changed my life forever
This guy goes from condemning for "making excuses" for not dressing well to condemning them for wearing suits.
There’s not many stylish people out there and style is different from fashion, fashion is too trendy while style is understanding what fabrics compliment each other and not having too many of one thing buttons, zippers etc.
Thank you for the video brotha
brah this video was on the algorithym roasting the algorithym
leik we've all seen these videos in the past and mood boards.
so crazyyy
I don't really care how a guy dresses tbh. Anytype of basic/utilitarian is fine. Physically I care more about face/body. We can always get you a better fit.
Look for kibbe style as well helps you understand your body type but it takes passion, your body is not a one size fits all, it’s unique so treats it as it is
i love when you post❤️
IMO good style has 3 parts
1. Dress to your traits/lifestyle, or at very least the traits you want to become. There needs to be a congruency between your clothing and who you are/want to be.
2. FIt. Your clothing is in a way, makeup for your body. You need to dress in a way that compliments your body and makes your frame look better and your body more proportional. There are also ways to "tease" through clothing ex: through jewelry and showing neck/wrists etc.
3. Minimalism. Do not be the guy who looks like he spent an hour on his outfit. You want it to be simple. You dont want to stand out too much, but also look excellent in your clothing. Theres a balance. Nailing looking good w/o trying hard is an art. But its a big turn off if you look like fashion is a huge part of you life, because it shows you arent doing more important things.
First time I hear about dressing about your face, I have a "soft boy" face so I guess I should dress like one
Johannes Huebl in my opinion has THE BEST style for men. Both casual and formal attire. My hubby dresses like him 🥰 so handsome and elegant
Those of you don't know, Tim Dessaint, He Spoke Style, The Modest Man and Daniel Simmons these are the channels worth watching for.
I'd add the style og too, he's got a legit timeless aesthetic that's great for anyone starting out
Fellow rep fam, I see
this is somehow the best fashion advice on the internet
you don't understand, I am from a country that is >30 degrees celcius and the humidity of a rainforest year round, wearing anything more than a T shirt outdoors will have you sweating like you just stopped out of a swimming pool in 5 minutes
Where do you live? Madagascar?
Brazilian?
Texas lol
Fashion is a stylistic expression of oneself
If fashion is an expression of my self image, that would explain why I have such bad fashion.
I usually stick to wearing black skinny jeans (Amazon Basics), Ferragamo belt, Vans perforated black leather slip-on, and a tucked in loose fitted button down shirts that look Prada (Walmart Brand), and I do get complimented all the time.
Finally something that actually tells how to do rather than what to do
I prefer the Italian idea of "easy natural fashion." Essentially its a style where you choose things that look good but it seems easy to do. That's why I have short hair with a fade, shave with a safety razor and wear conservative clothes like jeans and a black shirt but I might have a nice belt. All together its not a lot of work but it does make you stand out and is easy to maintain. I also lift weights but don't roid and do cardio so I still look better than others in that aspect but it's easy to do and looks natural as well.
Well defined video , men can’t dress up that are are not 💯,
I am corporate consultant and i feel absolutely conforming and confident in Suits , so much so given the chance I can wear them most of time ))
If your looking for more casual and street id definitely recommend frugal aesthetics channel
I love that you recommend Issey Miyake shows but at the same time I'm hurt since he just passed away 😓
Yes yes yes yes
I've been waiting for something like this
mate did you rush the editing? there's a lot of unnatural pauses or overlapping audio in the video. Just wanted to point that out, the rest of the video (content, visuals) is great, I learned a lot
Just speaking generally, I never understand how some people can be so tasteless when it comes to fashion. I instinctually know what I love and what I love automatically always seems to suit my natural features.
Lol this comment made me literally pause in thought for so long because I could think of some many reasons… but I’m sure that was not the point of the statement.
MY MAN KNOWS HAIDER ACKERMANN!!!! Tons of respect for recommending him it really caught me off guard 👀
I've been on my Style Journey for some years now and I am regarded as very fashionable amongst my Peers. One thing though that grinds my Gears is that I Just Don't have the Body Type to wear a Lot of different types of clothing. At 5'8 with a muscular physique Most Stuff is Just either way too tight or way too Long depending on the size I try on