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I love Dragon Quest so much. I played DQ8 back in 2017 and I love it so much. I loved the series so much that a Hero from one of the games was my most wanted character in Smash, and then... they came into Smash! I’ve played through the Demo of DQ11 on Switch and I loved it. I really need to get the full game.
My friend put it in an interesting way: they're like fairytales. That's why some have similar worlds and stuff. And you can factor the remakes that way: what was once a spoken folk story gets written by a new author adding twists and sprinkling a bit of their own on it.
Kinda like Final Fantasy, although a bit more connected since each mainline FF title is its own isolated universe, just with recurring themes, creatures and references.
@@Goob4430 It's a very technical way of saying that you can play the games in any order, and you might find things here and there that connect them. Don't worry about it, and just have fun with it.
Well.. I was always relieved to see my saved data was still there and even if i held in the reset button like an *** hole last time I was never really sure, or the power would go out for a couple seconds and my summer break forsaken
DQ is massively popular here in Japan, it's akin to the popularity of Disney films or something like that. The slime is an instantly recognizable symbol. There are even DQ branded convenience stores that play sound effects from the games when you enter and leave which is especially cool. Personally, it's one of my favorite game series ever and I never really concerned myself with their chronology, they're just simple and fun RPGs that I can go back to anytime.
@@panagiotischristo That's not true. He did explain a lot of how they connect, but also that the remakes makes the timeline confusing and illogical. He concludes that the timeline isn't essential to enjoy the games, the message being that you don't need to worry too much about it. That's not wasting time, it's informative and fun. Very much so if you never really played any of the games (which seemed to be James' situation going into this).
the same aplies to zelda, all the games contradict each other except the games that explicit are sequels like zelda 1 and 2, ocarina and majorask and the toon link games, i never understand why people wanted a zelda timeline, every game could be a stand a lone game there is no problem with that
@@verguco6051 not sure how all the Zelda games contradict previous games. Pretty sure all the games are pretty well established and take place sometimes hundreds of years from each other, allowing for games to be reinterpreted as legends within the canon. The official timeline itself is even pretty solid. I'd like to know where you came to the conclusion of contradictions
This is the closet thing we've ever gotten to seeing James discuss anything related to Akira Toriyama. He did use DBZ sound effects in the AVGN Pepsiman episode which confused me because I don't think James ever even touched a Dragonball game ever.
same, and I couldn't be happier. I love the dragon quest series so much and was surprised and excited to see james do a video and now know he's played them.
How old are you guys? Hes above 35 in age, hes been playing video games all of his life, hes referenced the series in his videos before, and he owns a huge collection of nes and snes games.... Of course hes played DQ
The character designs of the series was created by Akira Toriyama, as in the same guy behind the massively popular Dragon Ball franchise. And also Dr. Slump.
Of the middle titles, 5 is by FAR the best. The story is simply amazing in it & the gameplay is too. But it's mainly the fantastic story that carries the 5th entry. You won't believe what the hero in that game has to go through.
@@belstar1128 Regardless of that, he still made an amazing informative video with some details that even I didn't know, so it's still awesome. It's cool that James always delivers content which really make him deserve the money he gets for his work.
The DQM Joker games are what got me into Dragon Quest's main series. It's the unique and creative monster designs that drew me in. To this day I lament over how we never got a localization of 3.
@@toryficarola I can see why, especially if you were around during that time. I didn't know about Dragon Quest until after I was a fan of both Dragon Ball and Chrono Trigger, which was late 90's, so seeing Toriyama's artwork did a lot more for me than the more realistic western art.
@@valentds even someone with a small amount of knowledge of anime should know toriyama did the art for dbz though, even if they never watched the show.
11 poses an interesting idea about the splits. Zenithian is codependent on erdrick happening. However a third potential timeline could occur if eleven chooses not to go back in time and now neither has a broken sword of light or the title of erdrick, (things that both timelines depend on). so potentially 12 could be either a prequel to 11, a continuation of either timeline, or the start of a third timeline.
Huge missed opportunity by not ordering them with varying numbering schemes though. Chronologically Confused Chronologically Confused 2 Chronologically Confused III Chronologically Confused Act 4 Chronologically Confused 2 Revisited Chronologically Confused Part F
Dang I remember seeing Dragon Quest III for GBA at Costco and thought it looked so cool and I begged my dad to buy it for me. Man you couldn’t believe how many hours I put into the game.
Do one for Shin Megami Tensei, that's got more spinoffs and side series than anything else. Edit: seems like a lot of people would love to see you play some MT/SMT games James :)
In Mexico, the Dragon Quest III anime (named Las Aventuras de Fly) was really big for a while. I still tear up whenever I hear the music. It brings really nice memories.
If you rescue the princess, and instead of bringing her back to the King, you go right the the final dragonlord boss with her, he will thank you for bringing her all the way to him
Maybe in the remake, but not in the original NES version. I've done it plenty of times, and there has not been a difference in the dialog weither you have the princess or not
I sat patiently through the 20 min video waiting for him to acknowledge the DQ art and why its so similar to DBZ and even share the Dragon name but no luck. So you can confirm Toriyama actually did artwork for DQ?
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY Yes, Toriyama created the concept artworks for Dragon Quest. If you like Toriyama's art or if you like Dragon Quest, I'd recommend the 30th anniversary artbook, "Dragon Quest Illustrations," it's full of some great stuff.
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY yep, Toriyama did the character and monster designs for the DQ series, including the series mascot, the slime. He also did the same for Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon. If you look at all his artwork for Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump you can see a lot of similarities in the artwork for those games.
I hadn't played a DQ game since the NES, but I recently bought the definitive edition of XI S and it is really great. They somehow managed to keep it classic in mechanics while feeling contemporary visually. It's really worth a play.
The Japanese box art of the original Dragon Quest is my favorite box art of all time. Excellent character design, very elegant and simple composition and I love the purple color.
On a side note, the reason why many DQs refer back to 3 is just how successful DQ3 was in Japan. DQ3 was about Half Life levels of hype in Japan at the time.
I remember trying to figure out the Dragon Quest timeline. I made a thread about it on dragon's den a long time ago. I think there is generally a timeline. Probably not super planed out, but when you look at the games, most have different worlds like a light world, a dark world, or a dream realm. So you could say that a game may be a future or past version of one of the worlds used in another game. The DQ builders is clearly an off shoot to the timelines, sort of a what if sort of game. I think the creators have a vague idea of how the most of the main games connect but they don't sweat it out too much and mostly include references to past games for fun. If you want, you can play any of the games standalone, but if you want you can pick them apart and connect everything together as long as you are okay with selectively ignoring some references and things.
@Marcus Mysteriously Why thank you. Have you ever played Torneko: The Last Hope for the PSX? In an era where we were starved for DQ they gave us Torneko. Classic Enix. 🖖
I disagree with James’ dismissal of the US cover art for Dragon Warrior. When DW came out, I got this box set with maps and tips. All the art gave this epic, classic fantasy feel. I loved it!
I think they both have merit, I'm a sucker for Toriyama's artwork though. Personally I think it's great we can enjoy both Warrior and Quest for their own reasons, Japan doesn't really have that luxury.
I loved Dragon Warrior so much as a kid, it means so much to me. Glad to see Dragon Quest becoming more popular in the west now, I’m a lifelong fan. And I’m glad to see what James has been spending his newfound time on. Maybe try Suikoden next.👍
MAN i kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and he never once mentioned it Huge opportunity missed.. We all know he's dragon ball but there are soo many more that james would know like chrono trigger and such.. very dissapointed
@@LaughingMan1337 Exactly. Haven't even played Chrono Trigger and I know AT's the lead artist behind that visually appealing game. James made a big time oof.
@@JJK10293 my suggestion for Chrono Trigger is the DS version. It has the anime cutscenes from the PS version, a couple of extra side areas and quests, and another ending, which I won't spoil, but explains something that was cut from Chrono Cross.
@@rezaqalam482 I treat Blue Dragon as an unofficial DQX, since we will never have X, and I won't play MMOs even if we did. I treat Lost Odyssey as the unofficial Final Fantasy XI for the same reason.
Or maybe the creators realized they wanted the games to be connected. So now any game here on is going to explain the timeline as eleven did. So the next game is further going to explain how the game works.
I'm so happy that James is finally doing anything in regards to one of my favorite series - I remember sending James emails to do a review of Dragon Warrior back in 2009 lol
I had never even considered the idea of a unified timeline for the Dragon Quest series outside the obvious two trilogies & XI acting as an origin for both. I think I still won't; the Zelda timeline theory hurts my head as it is.
Dragon Quest XI debuting on Xbox store/gamepass and Dragon Quest Tact releasing now was clearly a planned sales move and I don't even care. Loved this series and glad to see it back
Break up Thanksgiving, come back or begin anew after Valentine's, save holiday expenses if you can be a bad enough dude. Not sure what's bs about Valentine's day other than retail making that seasonal candy right after new year's. I just wouldn't give to someone too entitled and wants every week to be Valentine's.
That Dragon Warrior I box art, mention in Nintendo Power, and feature in an episode of Captain N told my nine-year-old self that this game was a winner.
I stumbled unto Dragon Warrior I because of a top 10 most influential RPGs of all time in a random website. I've been hooked since. As an european it can be tricky and expensive to get the games but they're well worth it.
Are we getting a Renaissance of Cinemassacre? Every video in 2021 so far has been James, out of character, having fun, or discussing things that interest him. Videos like this are just as entertaining as classic AVGN because he’s so easy to listen to. He looks great, he sounds great- I don’t think James ever lost his spark. He’s just been wanting to make more content like this and didn’t get the chance for a while.
Thanks for putting this video together, James. Very much appreciate all the research and work you did trying to make sense of the Dragon Quest storyline. Now, I have to get some aspirin and lie down because... head hurts.🥴
No he isn't a Dragon Quest fan, he says this at the beginning that he never bothered with Dragon quest he was more of a Zelda guy. I doubt he's ever played a Dragon Quest game for more than an hour.
@@juliaboguslawska4794 id say if hes researched it enough to make a vid like this he at least has interest in it. He acknowledges its positive history and seems like he might wanna really get into it
When you talked about the artwork and character design on it, you should have mentioned it was all done by Akira Toriyama, and since Dragon Ball is the greatest anime ever, and it was really big in 1986, no wonder they decided to call him in to draw the artwork and the characters :D
The King of the Console RPG. I love the franchise and have covered some of the music from it. Koichi Sugiyama is a genius. Akira and Yuji Horii working together is awesome!
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When is the next AVGN i miss the nerd
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
Sick
nerd lives forever!
Ha, joke's on you! I already downloaded it! This is just a cherry on top.
Achievement unlocked!
Talk about every dragon quest game without mentioning Akira Toriyama or Dragonball.
Yep.
Did he do the art?
@@SoDaoudi Yes.
What he didn't even do that? Sadface only 1/4 into the video
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Never thought I'd be in the timeline where the AVGN talks about Dragon Quest, one of my favourite series.
ayoooo the main man himself
Except, for whatever reason, he chose not to use the AVGN character for this video.
@@wariolandgoldpiramid yes, But you must remember he already did the mother 2/eathbound video with the nerd
Funny, I was searching the chronological order of the zenithian trilogy games yesterday
I love Dragon Quest so much. I played DQ8 back in 2017 and I love it so much. I loved the series so much that a Hero from one of the games was my most wanted character in Smash, and then... they came into Smash!
I’ve played through the Demo of DQ11 on Switch and I loved it. I really need to get the full game.
My friend put it in an interesting way: they're like fairytales. That's why some have similar worlds and stuff. And you can factor the remakes that way: what was once a spoken folk story gets written by a new author adding twists and sprinkling a bit of their own on it.
Kinda like Final Fantasy, although a bit more connected since each mainline FF title is its own isolated universe, just with recurring themes, creatures and references.
All JRPGs are based on Western examples from old PC. They refined it for console wonderfully!
Similar to Norse mythology, theres no real origin to the lore, every new story found has some new gaps in it, usually re telling of Loki role
@@vatonage1599 Lightning is the only one so far to get a trilogy in Final Fantasy. Not that I blame them, Lightning is pretty cool.
So kinda like Mad Max. Each movie is a legend told by later generations.
Akira Toriyama's character designs and art style is what makes these games so great. I'm happy to see that James is finally talking about this series!
His art style has gone stagnant since 20 years ago, no new development or advancement to technique or art style whatsoever
@@Glaugan You can't improve perfection.
It absolutely isn't what makes them great, but it's a very nice bonus
If that's the only thing that make them great, then why bother playing the games, instead you should watch the tv show.
"A hero and his band, traveling across the land, searching for an evil jester" James is so power metal!
That also sums up alot of Batman stories.
Ff3/6? Lol
Well, that basically is DQ8 in a nutshell. ;P
Literally sounds like Dragonforce lyrics lol
There is nothing more satisfying than hearing the Dragon Quest level up sound.
:)
I'm very new to the series and this video kinda ruined it for me
@@Goob4430 It's a very technical way of saying that you can play the games in any order, and you might find things here and there that connect them. Don't worry about it, and just have fun with it.
Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
Well.. I was always relieved to see my saved data was still there and even if i held in the reset button like an *** hole last time I was never really sure, or the power would go out for a couple seconds and my summer break forsaken
@@Goob4430 it really spoiled a lot of DQ XI. But the game is still so enjoyable and fun!
DQ is massively popular here in Japan, it's akin to the popularity of Disney films or something like that. The slime is an instantly recognizable symbol. There are even DQ branded convenience stores that play sound effects from the games when you enter and leave which is especially cool. Personally, it's one of my favorite game series ever and I never really concerned myself with their chronology, they're just simple and fun RPGs that I can go back to anytime.
No way! That is awesome, Japanese people are the best.
I knew about its popularity in Japan but I didn't know there were DQ themed convenience stores! I need to visit someday ^^
when I walk in and hear the village theme I would spazz out
Cinemassacre and Dragon Quest!? I never watched anything so quickly in my life.
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*videos com
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How do you watch something quickly
The story of dq11 seems so badass to be the prequel’s prequel
Can't wait for Dragon Quest XII: The Legend of FredFuck
Oh no fred fuchs.
*DQ XII: The Flames of Fate
Dragon Quest XII: The Flames of FredFuck
This comment may age very well.
The Flames of Fred Fuchs sounds way better lol
"You're adding FredFuck to your party".
And
@@EarlDogg Nice
WHAT WAS HE THINKING?????
I'm not a bad slime (slurp)
"Analbag has fainted."
22 mins later: Don't worry about timelines or any of that stuff.
Reason why I didn't like the video...just waste of time.
It's great showing glimpse of each game...
@@panagiotischristo That's not true. He did explain a lot of how they connect, but also that the remakes makes the timeline confusing and illogical. He concludes that the timeline isn't essential to enjoy the games, the message being that you don't need to worry too much about it.
That's not wasting time, it's informative and fun. Very much so if you never really played any of the games (which seemed to be James' situation going into this).
1-3
4-6
7 and 8
9 and 10
11 is a prequel of 1-3 (possibly 4-6 too)
It's only harder if you want to put spin-offs on this and bonus content of remakes.
@@panagiotischristo You telling me you don't like listening to James ramble on about random subjects? Impossible.
@@panagiotischristo Then you clearly didnt pay attention.
"It's almost like there isn't a timeline" You figured it out man. That is literally the answer to the question.
the same aplies to zelda, all the games contradict each other except the games that explicit are sequels like zelda 1 and 2, ocarina and majorask and the toon link games, i never understand why people wanted a zelda timeline, every game could be a stand a lone game there is no problem with that
@@verguco6051 not sure how all the Zelda games contradict previous games. Pretty sure all the games are pretty well established and take place sometimes hundreds of years from each other, allowing for games to be reinterpreted as legends within the canon. The official timeline itself is even pretty solid. I'd like to know where you came to the conclusion of contradictions
But there absolutely is though
lol @18:25 👍
No one tell him about Dragon Quest IX special grotto bosses.
My theory is that 9 takes place in dream world
What about DQ XI 3DS's bonus end game content with a temple of time and warp gates to go clear quests in entries throughout the series.
@@kekeke8988 Going into the future to save it!
Just a reminder that DQ11 is one of the best games ever created.
Too bad act 3 ruined the ending
It's an absolute masterpiece.
Dq 8 ftw
DQ11 is the only one of the main series I've never played. I gotta find the time.
YES
For those that don’t know, the Dragon Quest Art was done by Akira Toriyama. He’s most famous for being the mangaka behind Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball.
This is the closet thing we've ever gotten to seeing James discuss anything related to Akira Toriyama. He did use DBZ sound effects in the AVGN Pepsiman episode which confused me because I don't think James ever even touched a Dragonball game ever.
@@UltimateShadow10 pretty sure whoever edited that video added those
thank you
i thouhgt it looked familiar
Thank you. I wondered why it looked like DB
I'd paint that Dragon Quest cover art on a Van, for sure.
BUT PROTO, you should be making videos,not painting a van.
2nd comment
But proto, why would you do that?
But proto...
its great to see James Rolfe take a keen interest in the Dragon Quest series
James x Dragon Quest is something I never thought I'd see.
But ya love to see it!
$$$
same, and I couldn't be happier. I love the dragon quest series so much and was surprised and excited to see james do a video and now know he's played them.
How old are you guys? Hes above 35 in age, hes been playing video games all of his life, hes referenced the series in his videos before, and he owns a huge collection of nes and snes games.... Of course hes played DQ
Never in my life have I needed something so much and never known until I recieved it.
The character designs of the series was created by Akira Toriyama, as in the same guy behind the massively popular Dragon Ball franchise. And also Dr. Slump.
I'm surprised he didn't mention it in the video.
Dr. Slump is awesome!!!!
And sanit sayain as well!
Chrono Trigger... Odd didn't mention, since it's a Square game
ya huge blunder on him for not mentioning it I kept on waiting for him to mention Toriyama but never did :(
Of the middle titles, 5 is by FAR the best. The story is simply amazing in it & the gameplay is too. But it's mainly the fantastic story that carries the 5th entry. You won't believe what the hero in that game has to go through.
Well, there is a reason that's the one chosen to be made a movie.
once you find out he has the lowest luck stat of any protag it makes sense
Can't believe James is talking about DQ, my favorite JRPG series of all time.
Agreed
Donkey Qong?
Dairy Queen lol
Well he was payed to.
@@belstar1128 Regardless of that, he still made an amazing informative video with some details that even I didn't know, so it's still awesome. It's cool that James always delivers content which really make him deserve the money he gets for his work.
James dresses like a mix between a trucker and a director.
He's channeling his inner Rex Viper Rigs.
Big gigs!
He's the mothertruckin' director!
a trecker or a truckie
That's how everyone in Philly dresses
You know hes an adult now when he names his in game character James.
(Meanwhile @ 10:20) ... 🤔
Fellow James here: I've always done that since a wee lad!
No more Analbag
The DQM Joker games are what got me into Dragon Quest's main series. It's the unique and creative monster designs that drew me in. To this day I lament over how we never got a localization of 3.
We never got the localization of 3 but people have fan translated it so there is a full English version of dqmj 3
Or terry wonderland
This is just VGN
''He's gonna take you back to the past
To play and talk about games''
That's it, that's the song now
A vegan!?
The “side of a badass van” joke was enough for a like. 👍🏻
Funny enough, that is by far and away my preferred box art.
@@toryficarola I can see why, especially if you were around during that time. I didn't know about Dragon Quest until after I was a fan of both Dragon Ball and Chrono Trigger, which was late 90's, so seeing Toriyama's artwork did a lot more for me than the more realistic western art.
Gotta love that old school Akira Toriyama art
Yea I was surprised didn't mention him or his involvement with Dragon Ball when he was talking about the cover art
@@ninjanizzle i don't think james love dragonball tbh. very little big people (maximilian dood for example) watched dragonball regularly
@@valentds, right, wrong generation. We weren’t exposed to that stuff at the right age. There was no world wide web until almost teens.
@@valentds even someone with a small amount of knowledge of anime should know toriyama did the art for dbz though, even if they never watched the show.
@@Keithustus what are you talking about James is around my brothers age and my bother loved dragon ball.. he's in the same generation.
And then, there's Yakuza: Like a Dragon, where the protagonist thinks he's in a Dragon Quest game!
Well he wants to be a hero like in dragon quest.
@@atomic747 Turns out Kiryu is a direct descendant of Erdrick and Ichiban is going to earn that tittle in the future in Yakuza Like a Dragon 3
Just saw this thank you lol
@@raulrojas9253 Haha, nice one dude! :)
The anime movie "Dragon Quest your story " < SPOILER ALERT!!!> follows the same premise
11 poses an interesting idea about the splits. Zenithian is codependent on erdrick happening. However a third potential timeline could occur if eleven chooses not to go back in time and now neither has a broken sword of light or the title of erdrick, (things that both timelines depend on). so potentially 12 could be either a prequel to 11, a continuation of either timeline, or the start of a third timeline.
Dq finally getting the recognition it deserves
I'm chronologically confused about the Tetris games.
Puyo Puyo Tetris happens 1000 years after an Alien Invasion that happened after Tetris 2
...did no one tell James that “scion” had a silent c?
i lolled at that
@@Hadmin LOL
Hey, I didn’t know until now
I had to pause, laugh, and scan the comments to make sure someone mentioned it.
thats a waste of alphaghetti what about scorn. . like in gauntlet legends Skorne is it corn and korn? xS
This could be a continuing series, there so much games and movies that could fit this criteria
Well, it IS a continuing series, it just takes long years between sequels. :D
He did give people a poll to vote on what would be next, but the list was of games that weren't that confusing.
There was a Zelda one a while back.
Huge missed opportunity by not ordering them with varying numbering schemes though.
Chronologically Confused
Chronologically Confused 2
Chronologically Confused III
Chronologically Confused Act 4
Chronologically Confused 2 Revisited
Chronologically Confused Part F
heh, found a new subscriber
The fact that you skipped by this series but did your research, this was pretty genuine dude.
日本のRPGをこうして取り上げてくれることに物凄く感動を覚えるなぁ・・・
THANK YOU!
日本のRPGは世界でもっと評価されるべき！
Dang I remember seeing Dragon Quest III for GBA at Costco and thought it looked so cool and I begged my dad to buy it for me. Man you couldn’t believe how many hours I put into the game.
I had it in nes in 93 was my favorite non Mario non Zelda nes game
III was by far the best of the four that were released on the NES.
I could believe it
I'm replaying the Super Famicom version of it, it's so great to revisit. Any favorite classes? I adore the Thief and Merchant.
@Back from the Deadpool ooop you’re right haha xD been a long time since then
Do one for Shin Megami Tensei, that's got more spinoffs and side series than anything else.
Edit: seems like a lot of people would love to see you play some MT/SMT games James :)
Most of them are not connected in any way to each other
Persona 3-5 are barely connected to 1-2 it seems.
@@dcb99filmz I ment smt as a whole persona while smt is it's own timeline
@@twistedluki2100 I'll be honest, I just want him to play some SMT titles. lol
@@dcb99filmz not the same universe, SMT IF created the persona 1/2 universe, persona 2 innocent sin created the P3 up to 5 universe
The fact that Square Enix is sponsoring this video is just surreal. James and Cinemassacre have been growing a ton.
I assume you mean this is a f'ing disgrace, and that James should stop before the internets turns on him?
Totally undeserved
Can't wait for James to do a "Chronologically Confused about Shin Megami Tensei".
That video would have to be like 3 hours long lol
i would LOVE that
@@johnlabonte5469 I am looking for the downside to that.
That video's gonna attract a lot of debates between main-series SMT and spin-off Persona.
I know persona is connected, but are the other SMT games connected too?
In Mexico, the Dragon Quest III anime (named Las Aventuras de Fly) was really big for a while. I still tear up whenever I hear the music. It brings really nice memories.
Adevntures of Dai isnt really a DQIII anime. Its pretty much its own setting.
If you rescue the princess, and instead of bringing her back to the King, you go right the the final dragonlord boss with her, he will thank you for bringing her all the way to him
Really? That's awesome! I never thought to try this lol.
@@JesseSwaney You can carry the princess around for the entire game, once you save her, as long as you don't go back to the king to save.
Commonly, go to an inn. Inn owner said something too.
Maybe in the remake, but not in the original NES version. I've done it plenty of times, and there has not been a difference in the dialog weither you have the princess or not
I love these episodes when he speaks more calmly and talks about the game
I wish that he'd make more movies like this and less but better quality nerd episodes.
Yes agreed
Part of what makes Dragon Quest stand out amongst it's contemporaries is Dragon Ball author Akira Toriyama's character designs.
I sat patiently through the 20 min video waiting for him to acknowledge the DQ art and why its so similar to DBZ and even share the Dragon name but no luck. So you can confirm Toriyama actually did artwork for DQ?
He’s the main artist for the series, he released a fantastic art book that I have of games 1-10.
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY Yes, Toriyama created the concept artworks for Dragon Quest. If you like Toriyama's art or if you like Dragon Quest, I'd recommend the 30th anniversary artbook, "Dragon Quest Illustrations," it's full of some great stuff.
@@LupinticDream Or old school dragon ball ;)
@@T0TALLYAWESOMEGUY yep, Toriyama did the character and monster designs for the DQ series, including the series mascot, the slime. He also did the same for Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon. If you look at all his artwork for Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump you can see a lot of similarities in the artwork for those games.
I hadn't played a DQ game since the NES, but I recently bought the definitive edition of XI S and it is really great. They somehow managed to keep it classic in mechanics while feeling contemporary visually. It's really worth a play.
If you own a ps2 or a 3ds, I would recommend Dragon Quest 8 because I think most people consider it to be one of the best games in the series
The Japanese box art of the original Dragon Quest is my favorite box art of all time. Excellent character design, very elegant and simple composition and I love the purple color.
Thank Akira Toriyama (1955 - 2024) for the box art
I helped out with this vid! I love Dragon Quest!
Chief! You helped the Nerd out? Making it to the big leagues now! 😃
When I saw your name in the description at the beginning I thought I was seeing things.
Nice to see you helped the nerd out Sackchief.
Love your vids, cheif!
Where does rocket slime fit in?
The rebirth of chronologically confused
More like digging up and dephasing a corpse
On a side note, the reason why many DQs refer back to 3 is just how successful DQ3 was in Japan. DQ3 was about Half Life levels of hype in Japan at the time.
I hope this becomes a series.
18:40 where be dragon quest heroes 1 and 2? But those are massive crossover so I guess it's it's own thing like 9 and 10.
They had to pay him to do it please james make a chronologically confused video about dragon quest we pay you 50$
I saw the title and thought "don't do this to yourself" then I thought, it's James, he can handle it
we believe in him! :D if anyone can handle it, he's the man!
Yea, but he just sounds so out of it. Maybe all the research took its toll on him.
It'd be a hard task, I'm sure he'll recover from it quickly
Thing I loved about DQ the most was that if you did the serious grinding, you were a huge beast by the end.
I remember trying to figure out the Dragon Quest timeline. I made a thread about it on dragon's den a long time ago. I think there is generally a timeline. Probably not super planed out, but when you look at the games, most have different worlds like a light world, a dark world, or a dream realm. So you could say that a game may be a future or past version of one of the worlds used in another game. The DQ builders is clearly an off shoot to the timelines, sort of a what if sort of game. I think the creators have a vague idea of how the most of the main games connect but they don't sweat it out too much and mostly include references to past games for fun. If you want, you can play any of the games standalone, but if you want you can pick them apart and connect everything together as long as you are okay with selectively ignoring some references and things.
You start where any sane man would start and that would be Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime for the DS. Be brave. Be brave.
But where would that throw DQH 1+2 or do we count them as Hyrule Warriors
I still want to get the Dragon quest Monsters Joker games on DS, though at this point, probably $50 or more
in rocket slime you drive a tank that has the power to destroy the world.
@@rolandofeliciano6006 lol I think we just count them as Hyrule Warriors. 🖖
@Marcus Mysteriously Why thank you. Have you ever played Torneko: The Last Hope for the PSX? In an era where we were starved for DQ they gave us Torneko. Classic Enix. 🖖
Im jealous of James's daughter imagine having this wholesome nerd as a dad. Love ya James
Which one? He has two.
Right I would have loved my parents playing video games with me growing up
I disagree with James’ dismissal of the US cover art for Dragon Warrior. When DW came out, I got this box set with maps and tips. All the art gave this epic, classic fantasy feel. I loved it!
Me too. With the old English text it didn't feel like a game with Japanese roots but rather European.
I agree. I loved the dragon warrior art
I think they both have merit, I'm a sucker for Toriyama's artwork though. Personally I think it's great we can enjoy both Warrior and Quest for their own reasons, Japan doesn't really have that luxury.
When you're 7 living in South Central LA back in the 90s? This game, this series was my escape. That is until the internet spread to the hood.
I loved Dragon Warrior so much as a kid, it means so much to me. Glad to see Dragon Quest becoming more popular in the west now, I’m a lifelong fan. And I’m glad to see what James has been spending his newfound time on. Maybe try Suikoden next.👍
Or a Chronologically Confused on Castlevania
Wait what he’s talking about dragon quest
Dark Cloud for the next video lol
Nice PFP homie
Dragon Quest 3, 8 and 11 S are my favorites . The 3DS port of 8 is a surprisingly well done adaptation of the PS2 game
I just want all the DQ games on my switch
You would probably like 2 better then 11, seeing as you like 3 and 8.
All I know is the warrior Ortega should be mentioned more.
"This unique anime art"
Me: Oh I *wonder* where that's going...
*never brings it up*
Me: "W-WHAT?!? AKIRA MF-ING TORIYAMA MY DUDE!!!"
MAN i kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and he never once mentioned it Huge opportunity missed.. We all know he's dragon ball but there are soo many more that james would know like chrono trigger and such.. very dissapointed
@@LaughingMan1337 Exactly. Haven't even played Chrono Trigger and I know AT's the lead artist behind that visually appealing game. James made a big time oof.
@@JJK10293
You should try it. One of the best jrpgs ever made
@@sufianramli8017 It's on my bucket list. I still need to decide what platform to play it on. Maybe after I go through all the DQ games tho.
@@JJK10293 my suggestion for Chrono Trigger is the DS version. It has the anime cutscenes from the PS version, a couple of extra side areas and quests, and another ending, which I won't spoil, but explains something that was cut from Chrono Cross.
Now he has to talk about Shin Megami Tensei and and the Persona series next
It was already bizarre enough hearing him mention the obscure "Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart" now he'll talk about "Demikids", too?
Just when I become obsessed with the Dragon Quest franchise James puts out a video about it lol
Welcome to the questers!
The real question is: “Where does Rocket Slime belong in the timeline?”
In the "best games ever" timeline
cibemassacre : this is confusing.
Kingdom hearts : SWEATING PROFUSELY.
Man hearing him talk about timelines is really relaxing somehow. I wish he would make much more of this!
That Toriyama art style is sick.
beacause of that i always thinking dragon quest and blue dragon is set in same universe😂
@@rezaqalam482 I treat Blue Dragon as an unofficial DQX, since we will never have X, and I won't play MMOs even if we did. I treat Lost Odyssey as the unofficial Final Fantasy XI for the same reason.
9:08 STTRONNNK Saiyan vibes here
@@justingates4985 interesting takes. blue dragon art was by Toriyama and Lost Odyssey by Sakaguchi.
@@justingates4985 FFXI is the best game ever made
Sounds like the bonus content in the remakes should be considered non-canonical to anyone who cares about fitting the timeline together.
Doesn't apply to 7, original or remake. One needed to get everything or they don't get to continue after defeating Orgodemir.
Forever end credits xD.
Or maybe the creators realized they wanted the games to be connected. So now any game here on is going to explain the timeline as eleven did. So the next game is further going to explain how the game works.
I'm so happy that James is finally doing anything in regards to one of my favorite series - I remember sending James emails to do a review of Dragon Warrior back in 2009 lol
DQ is one of my favorite series. I'm glad I got to see you cover it!
"Every dragon quest has a remake" *cough cough* not 9... Please remake 9.
No you coughing it wrong it's: eh-huh eh-huh.
@@ronanjager3829 i thought coughing was ECH
We need DQ9 on the Switch.
@@jaretco6423 I 100% agree
Dragon Quest 3, 4, and 5 are three of my favorite games of all time. Really enjoyed this video!
I had never even considered the idea of a unified timeline for the Dragon Quest series outside the obvious two trilogies & XI acting as an origin for both. I think I still won't; the Zelda timeline theory hurts my head as it is.
It was strange just having James talking like a normal person for a video. I could get used to it
There's a looooot of videos like this out there lol
So glad I live in the timeline where we get another *_chronologically confused_* episode. Still one of my favorite cinemassacre series
There's a connection in DQ8 you missed: in the monster arena, you face Torneko and Ragnar from DQ4
Young Yangus lets you meet Torneko too. So IV and VIII are coeval.
Dragon Quest XI debuting on Xbox store/gamepass and Dragon Quest Tact releasing now was clearly a planned sales move and I don't even care. Loved this series and glad to see it back
I’ve missed these chronologically confused vids now we need a ykwbs maybe one about Valentine’s Day ?
That would be interesting
Break up Thanksgiving, come back or begin anew after Valentine's, save holiday expenses if you can be a bad enough dude. Not sure what's bs about Valentine's day other than retail making that seasonal candy right after new year's. I just wouldn't give to someone too entitled and wants every week to be Valentine's.
I've never played a single one of these but it is still interesting hearing James explain everything.
That Dragon Warrior I box art, mention in Nintendo Power, and feature in an episode of Captain N told my nine-year-old self that this game was a winner.
In loving memory of: Akira Toriyama(1955-2024)
The Creator of: Dragon Ball &
Character designer for Dragon Quest!
I stumbled unto Dragon Warrior I because of a top 10 most influential RPGs of all time in a random website. I've been hooked since. As an european it can be tricky and expensive to get the games but they're well worth it.
I respect the fact that you want to buy original copies, and not just emulate
Just emulate them if they're so expensive...
17:03, i made the image of the zenithian sword, its really cool you put it in the video! :)
Well made dude!
@komodoxeno on Twitter made this image
yea but how does goku tie into this
Are we getting a Renaissance of Cinemassacre? Every video in 2021 so far has been James, out of character, having fun, or discussing things that interest him. Videos like this are just as entertaining as classic AVGN because he’s so easy to listen to. He looks great, he sounds great- I don’t think James ever lost his spark. He’s just been wanting to make more content like this and didn’t get the chance for a while.
Thanks for putting this video together, James. Very much appreciate all the research and work you did trying to make sense of the Dragon Quest storyline. Now, I have to get some aspirin and lie down because... head hurts.🥴
The DQ Monsters Series is in a big video from a big youtuber, never thought this day would come, even if it is just the logos
Never imagined james is gonna talk about dragon quest! I love the franchise. Got shirts, figurines, plushies, posters and ofc games since gbc!
James is a DQ fan? He continues to prove hes a man of culture.
No he isn't a Dragon Quest fan, he says this at the beginning that he never bothered with Dragon quest he was more of a Zelda guy. I doubt he's ever played a Dragon Quest game for more than an hour.
@@juliaboguslawska4794 id say if hes researched it enough to make a vid like this he at least has interest in it. He acknowledges its positive history and seems like he might wanna really get into it
I have seen the original NES games on his shelves in the background of AVGN videos.
The videos showed that he has beaten at least the Erdrick Quadrilogy.
@@Morgil27 I believe he has a close to complete NES collection, minus the World Championship and Stadium Events carts.
You have no idea how happy it makes me to hear you bring up this series.
Glad you brought in Sackchief on this. He's the most informative content creator when it comes to Dragon Quest stuff.
Just about every JRPG franchise from Square Enix, are chronologically confusing.
I’ve noticed 😉🤣😂
I mean. Chrono Cross/Trigger? Super easy to follow
And its a Time Travel story(s) nonetheless
But oh so fun!
5:18
Still haven’t let go of that whole “Rocky stopped numbering their movie titles” thing after all these years, have you?
It's a grudge both James and I will hold forever
There should be laws that prevent this sort of thing. It's even worse when a movie sequel has the same name as the original.
What if... There is no timeline but there's just themes and easter eggs and cameos and fan service references. lol
You got it
Other than the obvious little trilogies like 11 to 1-3 and IV-VI
When you talked about the artwork and character design on it, you should have mentioned it was all done by Akira Toriyama, and since Dragon Ball is the greatest anime ever, and it was really big in 1986, no wonder they decided to call him in to draw the artwork and the characters :D
ya lets not forget Dr. Slump, chrono Trigger and soooo much more.. really a huge blunder on Jaimes very disspointed
Very Nice, I'm glad to see another Dragon Quest Timeline.
Never thought in my life I would see AVGN talk about Dragon Quest.
This is why I survived Covid
imagine a chronologically confused on the mario timeline
Well Mario is timeless so......
The King of the Console RPG. I love the franchise and have covered some of the music from it. Koichi Sugiyama is a genius. Akira and Yuji Horii working together is awesome!
Dragon Quest V is one of my all time favourites.
"Pick any and play it, they're all solid."
- James Rolfe on DQ series