@@fizgigz367 The issue is that the trapezoid created with the double whishbones when compressing or extending the distance between the end of the suspension piston and the rod toward the wheels should be able to decrease/increase. So you need to offset the suspension and use horizontal bearings (2x)
It appears to be an easier model of double wishbone. Thus it is more comprehensible for new mechanics for recreation than those half hour long tutorials the stars are doing. Thanks a lot for making this suspension accessable for a dump mechanic that is myself.
This is a great suspension even if it causes the suspension glitch. I was able to modify it to remove the glitch though. I just moved the springs one block inward so that the top wishbone axle is connected directly to a 3 way pipe that connects to the spring. This allows the spring to move more freely and eliminate the glitch. doesn't require a controller, but is more stable with one or two controllers pinning the bearings up.
Thanks, this was very helpful! But one thing: You don't need the second piece of suspension (hard to explain) so what I mean by that is you don't need both of the duplicated pieces (You have one in the front, this is starts with the 2 bearings which you mount on the car's body. Then comes the middle part with the Shock absorber like you called it in the video. Then, the last part is just a duplication of the first one and you don't need that to have a stable car! )
This causes a suspension glitch, unfortunately. 3:30 and 4:38 - As your build hits the ground, it stays upright. The supports gradually touch the ground, but they should fall instantly because of the weight. The easiest way to confirm this: you can also smack one of these with the sledgehammer, and it won't fall over. That's the problem that people are having here, and it's an issue with the game that has been bothering me while I mess with suspension designs.
It shouldn't, certainly not the one without steering. Suspension is janky as hell in SM, work on something a while, looks good, take it for a drive and it turns into a blender. It's very much about working around all the bugs and invisible collisions to get things running in here.
@@10175978 Yeah, Scrap Mechanic Devs should fix a lot of bugs and mostly the game performance. Any advanced build in this games brings the game to 5 fps, even on Ryzen 3900x + 2080 Super, that is shame.
At the end of the video, you can see, when it's taken off the lift, that there's a suspension glitch... If the block/pipe you attach the suspension to was on bearings and was able to rotate, the glitch wouldn't happen.
This game is glitchy/buggy all the time. That is the reason why I stopped playing it again. I think I need to wait few more years again. If you build proper suspension, you get 3-5fps on Ryzen 3900x + 2080 Super and 32GB of ram.
@@AdamDeBeers Some even use those bugs as features... I mean, how useful is the suspension glitch for suspension steering? So compact, yet so effective.
@@AdamDeBeers Yup... My favourite one to use is the fact that I can go underground with my lift... Some thing tells me I'm gonna lose a lot of equipment if I don't "dig it up" before they fix that glitch.
I think, it is very good question for the Devs. I have this game for over 5 years and it looks like, nothing was ever fixed, performance issues and bugs. Tons of bugs.
@@tobymcghie3678 ok i researched it and couldnt find anything (other than tutorials showing how to build it and not how it works) but i think i understood how it works i think it happens when a top of the suspension tries to get rotated but the bottom cant be rotated so it creates a stabilizer that cannot fall down and if you attach it to something the thing that you attaches it into it cannot fall too
suspension glitch! the suspension springs are bound fixed, and cannot move. they need the ability to move when they are pressed together. other than that, nice suspension.
And can you make an updated version where the suspension can also go down so therefore the wheels touch the ground all the time therefore making the car more easy to handle because all wheels are touching the ground
Scrap Mechanic devs need to fix game performance first, it is almost impossible to build something advanced in this game withouth loosing 90% of fps on high end gaming computer.
I just tried this suspension and for some reason it doesn't work. Could it be the last update? (It really looks good so I wanted to try it out, thanks!)
You made a mistake somewhere, while you were building it, I guess you welded the ( shock absober, damper "springy thing" ) somewhere it shouldnt be welded.
@@AdamDeBeers I recreated it. I used a controller to test it's motions and it started flying into space. There's a lot that could have gone wrong with my tests but the basic structure of it looks flawed I think. It beds the suspension out shape causing the suspension glitch. I tried a couple other alterations hoping to remove it but I got tired of chasing after the structure after it flew away and stopped.
@@AdamDeBeers I got it to work. I overextended the bearings. The first four can only be set to 25 degrees counter clockwise, or in otherwords moving up in direction, before they climax and glitch. I was using 30.
![You DRAW IT, I BUILD IT! Unusual Suspension, Perpetual Motion, and More! [YDIB 22]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/O0ZsulqPViM/mqdefault.jpg)
Will you try to build this suspension? If you do, let me know, if you are happy with it.
No the suspension doesn't work
@@fizgigz367 The issue is that the trapezoid created with the double whishbones when compressing or extending the distance between the end of the suspension piston and the rod toward the wheels should be able to decrease/increase. So you need to offset the suspension and use horizontal bearings (2x)
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@Malik Rayden Thank you.
Its a very nice tutorial, but it creates a suspension glitch, no big deal with heavy trucks but a bit of a problem with smaller and lighter vehicles
It appears to be an easier model of double wishbone. Thus it is more comprehensible for new mechanics for recreation than those half hour long tutorials the stars are doing. Thanks a lot for making this suspension accessable for a dump mechanic that is myself.
Thank you very much! 👍
This is a great suspension even if it causes the suspension glitch. I was able to modify it to remove the glitch though. I just moved the springs one block inward so that the top wishbone axle is connected directly to a 3 way pipe that connects to the spring. This allows the spring to move more freely and eliminate the glitch. doesn't require a controller, but is more stable with one or two controllers pinning the bearings up.
Good job!
Thank you so much bro i didn't know we can use weld tool like that it helped to me so much you are the BEST.
You are very welcome, thank you for very kind words. Have a great day.
Thanks, this was very helpful!
But one thing: You don't need the second piece of suspension (hard to explain) so what I mean by that is you don't need both of the duplicated pieces (You have one in the front, this is starts with the 2 bearings which you mount on the car's body. Then comes the middle part with the Shock absorber like you called it in the video. Then, the last part is just a duplication of the first one and you don't need that to have a stable car! )
Thanks for the info!
Wicked setup for suspension dude. Im going to use that on my next buggy i build. Ty for the upload.
Thank you very much, maybe I will upload even "skinny version"
@@AdamDeBeers Interesting. Love to see that :)
This causes a suspension glitch, unfortunately. 3:30 and 4:38 - As your build hits the ground, it stays upright. The supports gradually touch the ground, but they should fall instantly because of the weight. The easiest way to confirm this: you can also smack one of these with the sledgehammer, and it won't fall over.
That's the problem that people are having here, and it's an issue with the game that has been bothering me while I mess with suspension designs.
Yeah.
You can easily fix this, but it requires more space.
@@pukasyan it can be easily fixed by joining the suspension to either of the wishbones instead of in the middle
Damn it looks so satisfying in action great idea
Thank you very much.
Thx very helpful will recommend to friends
You are welcome.
I have all the welds correct but the suspension is just completely solid
Check the middle of the suspension, around that shock absorber or you forget some bearing.
It shouldn't, certainly not the one without steering. Suspension is janky as hell in SM, work on something a while, looks good, take it for a drive and it turns into a blender. It's very much about working around all the bugs and invisible collisions to get things running in here.
@@10175978 Yeah, Scrap Mechanic Devs should fix a lot of bugs and mostly the game performance. Any advanced build in this games brings the game to 5 fps, even on Ryzen 3900x + 2080 Super, that is shame.
I made something similar and it went flying off and I have not found it on my survival map yet
I know exactly what you mean. 🤣😄😃
Thank you ❤️❤️
You are welcome.
nicely done and well explained
Thank you very much.
At the end of the video, you can see, when it's taken off the lift, that there's a suspension glitch... If the block/pipe you attach the suspension to was on bearings and was able to rotate, the glitch wouldn't happen.
This game is glitchy/buggy all the time. That is the reason why I stopped playing it again. I think I need to wait few more years again. If you build proper suspension, you get 3-5fps on Ryzen 3900x + 2080 Super and 32GB of ram.
@@AdamDeBeers Some even use those bugs as features... I mean, how useful is the suspension glitch for suspension steering? So compact, yet so effective.
@@whusmanameAtGeeMail You are right, maybe the Devs will see some things and they will fix it after all that years, finally.
@@AdamDeBeers Yup... My favourite one to use is the fact that I can go underground with my lift... Some thing tells me I'm gonna lose a lot of equipment if I don't "dig it up" before they fix that glitch.
@@whusmanameAtGeeMail Underground? 😄
hmm. it seems like my version had a freaking stablization glitch issue, am i doing it wrong or what?
I do not know what you are doing 😀😀😀
Thank you for the tutorial
You’re welcome 😊
personally i think the stabilization glitch effect is worth it as your car will never flip over
Yeah, SM has too many bugs and glitches which ruin the gameplay.
heheh gona try to do it in my game also looks cool
Thank you very much.
Hey saddamo for when you curl the bottom pipe to go down is that necessary? 3:47
I like it and it gives bit more ground clearance.
im getting a glitch where i float when going over bumps?
I think, it is very good question for the Devs. I have this game for over 5 years and it looks like, nothing was ever fixed, performance issues and bugs. Tons of bugs.
Oh thats the suspension glitch and i think it happens when there are too many suspension next to each other? Idk tho
@@AdamProGamingTR I think suspension glitches happen when there are too many moving objects like bearings. I’m not too sure tho
@@tobymcghie3678 Yeah its definitely that but just to make sure imma go research it now lol
@@tobymcghie3678 ok i researched it and couldnt find anything (other than tutorials showing how to build it and not how it works) but i think i understood how it works i think it happens when a top of the suspension tries to get rotated but the bottom cant be rotated so it creates a stabilizer that cannot fall down and if you attach it to something the thing that you attaches it into it cannot fall too
suspension glitch! the suspension springs are bound fixed, and cannot move. they need the ability to move when they are pressed together. other than that, nice suspension.
Thanks for the info!
@Robert B, did you weld everything
And can you make an updated version where the suspension can also go down so therefore the wheels touch the ground all the time therefore making the car more easy to handle because all wheels are touching the ground
Scrap Mechanic devs need to fix game performance first, it is almost impossible to build something advanced in this game withouth loosing 90% of fps on high end gaming computer.
@@AdamDeBeers They made a whole Physics Fix a few weeks ago
@@Spinosaurus_Aegyptiacus I need to install Scrap Mechanic again 😀👍
@@AdamDeBeers cool
2:00 the pipes looks like a guy sitting
Yeah, good catch 😀👍
the design in game will flow over bumps and not make them less feeleble ( this design doesnt work in game it makes the steering awful )
It works 100% for me.
@@AdamDeBeers i mean if you dont count the suspension glitch and a sligthy less steering yea
amazing accent bro lmaoo
I want to laugh too, try my language please 😀
@@AdamDeBeers no offnece ,i like ur accent ,its special,and i want to show you my advanced suspention set on scrap mechanic ,add me steam
But is it really better than normal suspension though
Thank you very much. 👍
I was wondering the same, by looks of the short clip at the end it looks like the steering version still flops around
@@Emm3D Sometimes it does work very well and sometimes it does not, some kind of black magic. 😃👍
I really want to know how things work instead of a copy-pasta like this and don't know how it works and how it'll fit a build.
I think it is easy to see how it will work.
Mine is not working i welded it all right and the suspension glitch is all I see and the pipes are solid
The suspension is still working.
@@AdamDeBeers but when I tested it the suspension is solid
@@datacoguy8012 I guess, you made a mistake somewhere.
maybe try to fix stabilization glitch
What do you mean?
I just tried this suspension and for some reason it doesn't work. Could it be the last update?
(It really looks good so I wanted to try it out, thanks!)
Make sure to align bearings and the double wishbone looking mechanism is welded right
Let me check
@@phenixgacha2357 I did many times :( I have 3 cars already with the same suspensions, so many tries xD
@@izumijio It works in my survival world, in creative too. I build it from scratch just out of curiosity and it just woks.
@@AdamDeBeers Ok thank you, then its really something I am doing haha.
wow
Thank you.
The suspension doesn't work, like at all. I welded it all that i could and the suspension doesn't go up nor down
You made a mistake somewhere, while you were building it, I guess you welded the ( shock absober, damper "springy thing" ) somewhere it shouldnt be welded.
when i build this is looks like its freezed i dont know why pls help :(
Did you weld wrong parts together?
u didn't check the direction of rotation n bearings
indeed he didnt but we got the point just need some smal ajustmnents and we can do it ez
No need to check for rotation, just one bearing and it depends if you use this suspension to drive forward or backwards, it is only up to you.
@@SirKoyas Only one bearing needs rotation, for driving forward or backward.
This looks like it's going to glitch.
Try it and you will see.
@@AdamDeBeers
I recreated it. I used a controller to test it's motions and it started flying into space. There's a lot that could have gone wrong with my tests but the basic structure of it looks flawed I think. It beds the suspension out shape causing the suspension glitch. I tried a couple other alterations hoping to remove it but I got tired of chasing after the structure after it flew away and stopped.
@@spawnface3493 If you build it correctly and weld it right, it does not glitch and it wont fly into the space.
@@AdamDeBeers
I got it to work. I overextended the bearings. The first four can only be set to 25 degrees counter clockwise, or in otherwords moving up in direction, before they climax and glitch. I was using 30.
@@spawnface3493 Bearings do not need to be set at all, leave them spin freely.
They are falling
Falling?
@@AdamDeBeers dang it, i forget to connect pipes no worries
@@ulubatl6914 You forget welding the pipes? 👍 Welcome in the club! 😃
this fov makes me want to vomit
Do it 🤣
@@AdamDeBeers when you post a new scrap mechanic video
@@relt_ 😀👍