DOUBLE WISHBONE SUSPENSION Tutorial (no sus glitch) doesn't work in survival, no realistic sus does
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- A guide to double wishbone suspension. Enjoy.
My Workshop:
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Music:
MK2 - Move Out
Jesse Gallagher - Satya Yuga
0:00 way too long intro
1:30 basic double wishbone
5:35 removing stabilization glitch
7:33 tips and tricks
11:44 outro - เกม
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This is a godsend of a tutorial. Keep up the amazing work!
This is the guide is incredible. You really cover it so well. Learnt way more than I expected and I'm so glad I no longer have to watch my structures fly off into space because they were caught in a suspension glitch.
Glad to hear that
After 4 years of playing SM I have to say this videos is a relief
This was really helpful! All of the other tutorials just tell/show how to make it, and rarely ever go into why one would want to build it that way. From now on this is the video I will share when my friends ask me about ( _double wishbone_ ) suspension in Scrap Mechanic. Once again, thank you so much!
10:00 is massively helpful! Thank you for showing how different wishbone setups can change the camber of the wheels over bumps and turns. Very cool!
The tips and tricks were great. I didn't realize changing camber was that useful.
used this guide 3 years ago in creative to build my own chassis, but then quit the game.
fast forward to 2024 I'm here finally tweaking and finishing the chassis.
Just wanted to say ty for the inspiration.
Thank you for the tuutorial and the forbidden knowledge of suspensions at the end. Never saw anyone doing an in-depth explanation before. Keep up the great work, and take care, Pauglin the wise!
thank you very much!
initially i thought some guy playing with his lego. but as the music improved...so did the viewing.
Thank you so much, I've been trying to do this for days now. Love you baby
Holy crap what a great tutorial. Thank you!
most informative I have seen yet! thank you!
Awsome tutorial mate ! thank you for the advanced physics part!
I'm glad it was helpful to you
Great content, cant wait to hear voice over commentary too
thanks for showing. did not know how to do good shutdown and needed to know how to do it in the best way thank you so much for knowing how much you knew and by the way (KING is you) will subscribe to your channel from today you really deserve a medal for doing so good🎖
That's some god tier of a tutorial, really enjoyed it!
Thank you
DUDE QUALITY TUTORIAL ❤️
THANK YOU HELPED ME MAKE THE BEST OFFROAD
Thanks for the tutorial, I looked for it for soooo long, and I found it!
Glad to hear that
so much knowledge in a very clear nice video THANK YOU
Science tops Scrap Mechanic glitches - woot. One of the most helpful and explanative videos on suspension that I've seen.
Glad to hear that my friend
Suspension glitch might explain why my wishbone suspensions never work right. Definitely going to try the l-shaped upper wishbone for higher speed cornering!
as a in-game suspension guy. Damn you're right, I really like this video, probably gonna give you sub. Great job!
Thanks
Great tutorial!
This suspension system works amazingly in Creative, but when I replicated it in Survival, the vehicle fell into a heap, like a horse with no bones. I tried making adjustments, but nothing seemed to work. It's like the physics in Survival are completely different from that in Creative.
They are, in survival bearings have no strength and cannot support the force
Okay, that explains a lot. I was keeping myself awake thinking I was doing something wrong. Really appreciate the information. Hopefully Axolot fixes that in the future.
@@Pauglin please include that in the description "not good in survival." thumbs up still cause i learned stuff but i just wasted my time too.
@@MV1890HHT I had the same problem, and connected 2 more of the bearings from the main wishbones to the controller to give it some strength. not a good suspension really but it made it drivable.
your videos are awesome, i never could do anything like this.
I bet you could, it just takes some time that you have to put in
You have earned a sub my pren
Nicely done
What was the other map you used in the intro it looked rlly cool also I loved the ending explanation it showed me what I was missing in this game
Look in the description, you will find the tile
Awesome video thanks so much!
Thanks
Thank you so much for going into more detail at the end, it was driving me nuts that I kept seeing "tutorials" for suspensions which never explained anything! Incredibly good tutorial, I can't wait to try it out myself.
One question, do you know if any behavior has been changed/patched since this tutorial?
Thanks for the praise!
As far as I know there weren't any big changes since I made this video. The only thing to keep in mind is that this suspension will most likely work badly in the survival mode as all the bearings in that gamemode are very weak, dislocate easily and flop around even with the smallest force applied.
@@Pauglin Yeah I just tried it in survival, it was a disaster haha! I don't think anything big has been changed or updated since this video though. It looked like it would have worked with better bearings - like you said.
It's probably possible to tweak it so it works in survival but I decided to just go with a different design
@@Salamanii well it's kinda possible but it still performs poorly and the wheels flop around and change camber
Best suspension tutorial I've seen 👍
Thanks
Your guide should be part of the game.
WHAT THE- I was literally thinking about making a suspension like this, where you can change ride height, and placing the shock absorber (suspension) near the wheel, and putting it on two bearings, like the way it is IRL!! Like, the car in my head was literally the same you created in this video (Only that my vehicle was unable to flip bc of the suspension glitch and it annoyed me). And I also use the same hotbar layout! What a coincidence...
Nice video! It was rlly helpful ty
I'm glad I could help
This is really helpful!!
this is great dude
It's good to know i'm not the only one that uses the hotbar slot things (where you have multiple hotbars and switch between them)
And i also know nobody will care
you really break down the concepts in a helpful way. @9:30 is that suspension system setup to avoid the bug/glitch? like the look of it
No, the suspension glitch is all about how you connect the suspension piece itself
thank you dude
very cool
Your videos are game changer for me. hope u got a job in engineering or smth. thx for this youtube channel
Thanks!
It's my first year in college and seeing how stuff is done around here, I'm pretty happy I don't do anything mechanical lol. (Doing mostly electric stuff now (it's a pain too))
@@Pauglin Well good luck in college.
very very very good suspension
i died multiple times and respawned back just to complete the intro
Yeah, I agree that intro is stupidly long
very good suspension, although it has a issue with weight handling I put a bar going from either side to stop the camber that was happening when weight was added to it
I remember when this was the coolest thing you could build
I love everything the only thing I’ll change is the music but I still liked the vid
I can make such complex suspension in other games, but in scrap mechanic it's just wierd because of the suspension glitch. Survival mode should also have the same physics, but sadly it doesnt
God Tier video
Unfortunately maybe it's my modded pieces that made this not work, but when I tried this out the suspension flipped out and started rocking after I took it off the lift. Great tutorial tho!
after this tutorial it is super ez tysm, also the removing part is not nessesary if you do 4 wheeled steering
Oh my goodness thank you so much
This helps alot dude, thanks
I'm happy it was helpful
I don't get it how people come up with these ideas there just amazing
very nice
thanks
Can you make the chasis tutorial? it looked awesome :(
Just download it from the link in the description
Appreciate it
Brilliant tutorial and looks really good.
Unfortunately even though I followed this I'm still getting the floppy suspension glitch, was hoping following this idea would help somehow.
Problems started last week when we made 2 vehicles and there was no problems but then one day both vehicles were sat on the floor with the suspension spread out and wobbling around.
Unfortunately I can't find any solution to fixing this.
I don't exactly know what do you mean but there are 2 things I can think of that might be the problem:
First is that you are playing the survival mode. Bearings in the survival mode are much weaker and flop around making it basically impossible to create complex suspension especially for heavier cars.
The second one is that you might be using the "offroad suspension" piece for the springs. Unlike "sport suspension" the offroad one tends to become weird if you extend it too much or pull on it. Sport suspension doesn't have this issue and that's why I tell beginners to only use that one.
I hope this helped you
@@Pauglin
Yes it is only in Survival mode its happening.
The 2 vehicles that were built one was a truck with off road suspension and the other was a light weight basic car with sports suspension.
Whats strange is that both vehicles were OK for 2 weeks and then a few days back when we started the game up both cars were bottomed out with the wheels and suspension spread out like someone doing the splits and shacking at the same time.
Tried different things to sort it out, made sure all welds are done and even stripped the vehicles down and rebuilt the suspension in different ways with upgrades and down grades and nothing seems to cure the problem.
Unfortunately we can no longer make a vehicle in survival mode, very strange.
@@JASON-rq5gl well sadly that's just how the survival mode is. On heavier trucks I don't even put suspensions in that game mode
@@Pauglin thx for the reply Pauglin, obviously it's some kind of glitch that the devs need to sort out.
If I ever find the route of the problem or a work around I will let you know.
As for now I will use your advice and remove the suspension.
I don't know if they changed something with the physics, but none of these are working for me in survival.
how do you keep the wheels straght ?
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Paugli Great video. I am pretty sure, you must be a mechanical engineer 😊😊! I will just follow your video to build something like that...Will you be able to create a video on how to build a truck for survival mode?
I plan on making more videos for sure. I will be doing a series where you will see some more of my builds. I also plan on making more suspension tutorials (and maybe some other mechanical things if something comes to my mind)
But I probably won't make any survival related content because the mode feels to grindy for me and I really don't enjoy the grind.
Also I might make some time lapses of me building stuff.
And I also don't suggest building complex suspension for survival creations as the bearings in survival mode are kinda floppy and the suspension likes to collapse.
I will probably come back to survival once there will be the ability to spawn things from the lift. I would like to prototype my stuff in creative first and then just spawn it in survival. I find it hard to build something in survival when there is the day/night cycle, hunger, farm raids, limited resources etc.
@@Pauglin Thanks for the reply. How about this one: th-cam.com/video/QTuMxCg6NwE/w-d-xo.html which you have suggest. I wanted to make one vehicle for map exploring with super mobility. Or how about this one: th-cam.com/video/zcUOwDJTYVk/w-d-xo.html
@@Gamechk definitely the first one as the second one will create stabilization glitch
@@Pauglin Is that gonna create any issue in future? If dev gonna fix that?
See, everytime I build this, my front wheels flare outwards... I don't understand.. I literally follow the build to a T.
great video
Thank you very much
i saw title and it was like DOUBLE WISHBONE SUSPENSION Tutorial no sus
Lol
Does this work for you in survival? I build the basic version in Creative and it works properly. The same suspension build in Survival makes the wheel rotate (while it should stay upright) and when doing harsh corners the wheel rotates under the car.
The bearings in survival are weaker and floppy.
You can make it work better by moving the wishbones further apart. By that I mean for example putting the upper wishbone one block higher. The wheel will then have less leverage on the suspension mechanism and it will be stronger.
Hm, thank you. Already build the bones with a spacing of 1. Currently I'm running a single bone suspension with a length of 4 and and the suspension at the outer end. Works as intended and is stable, though the problem of the rotating wheel.
Might give a 1 to 1 build of your suspensions a try. Feels like the most time in the game I spent building and testing suspensions.
My suspension probably won't be stable in survival too
How are y'all getting sloped blocks I can only make cubes
I did zhe no glitch thing and its still doing the suspension glitch
edit:sorry im dumb i added the wrong pipe under the suspension
I have an issue with this. I built it exactly as you did, but my rear wheels canter so far out to the point where my body drags on the ground. They roll over and I'm not exactly sure why? It's the rear wheels when I'm moving in either forward or backwards, so my front wheels do the same if i'm driving backwards and vice versa. any ideas? I might not have understood what you meant by "removing suspension glitch" because all I did was rebuild the double wishbone the way you had it and welded it properly. I'm not sure if there was something I missed?
Look at the bearing placement around the springs. That has changed
@@Pauglin I realize that you had connected several bearings to controllers... I did this and was able to get it to drive better but its still a bit wonky. Are you connecting every single bearing that doesnt need to turn to a controller?
@@SHOTGUNStotheNOSE no, I only did what you can see in the video. Also if you play in the survival mode it just wont work. The bearings are too loose in the survival mode
@@Pauglin Ah. That's the issue. I play survival. I did get it to run pretty well by attaching most of the bearings to a controller. Regardless this guide helped me a lot in understanding how to make suspension that actually works.
everybody gangsa until The third wishbone suspension was released
why have 3 when you can have 5?
hi, very good tutorial, but i have a problem doing it. My wheels stay diagonally, they don't stay 100% straight as they should be. What could be failing?
If you build it in the survival mode it won't work because the bearings are too floppy in that node and they candislocate easily
@@Pauglin oh ok, thx yu
i cant weld the spot you said to make sure to weld
use lift and then weld the structure
Anyone who sees this comment please help! So I did the car and all, but when it was finally ready after 2 hours of gathering resources the car just doesn't work, the wheels don't have any grip, the cars torso is touching the ground and even the wheels are in a 90 degree angle. Everything is just broken I need help! Please anyone? But great tutorial overall!
It wont work in survival mode. The bearings are too loose
@@Pauglin Oh my lord for fuck sakes
I tried about 1 hour to build this suspension 8:58, but I gave up, it makes me feel dumb because it looks simple but I can't get the top of the spring to connect to the elbow, asking you was the last option. Could you please tell me how you did it?.
I don't exactly understand what are you trying to do but try putting it on a lift and building it on the lift. Also check if everything is welded with the weld tool
If you still have problems after that you can join my discord server here: discord.gg/X3BMEmx and then you can post pictures there and I or somebody else will help you
You can join my discord server here:
discord.gg/X3BMEmx
I just realized that I am dumb. The third way to avoid suspension glitch won't work. It's missing one bearing.
You can see the mechanism I wanted to create in this video:
th-cam.com/video/QTuMxCg6NwE/w-d-xo.html
why the rear wheels are attached by a second bar
I don't get what you mean
This type of suspension does not work in survival mode, my wheels begin to diverge strangely in different directions. Can you tell me how to fix this?
Sorry for my late response I didn't notice the comment.
Unfortunately there is probably no way to solve this cuz the survival mode has really floppy bearings and that is the reason why that happens. Tho putting the wishbones further apart (for example the upper wishbone a block higher) should help but it won't entirely fix it
@@Pauglin ty
Could you make trophy truck suspension plz?
Edit: i don't know if you have already
Trophy trucks usually have this for the front suspension and I will eventually make a video about what they have for the rear
@@Pauglin Cool!
Edit: I made a trophy truck on the workshop can you tell me what you think of it if you get a chance? No worries if you can't tho.
Thumbs up cause its a good tutorial but honestly you go way too fast through some things. I have a bug somewhere in mine, not sure where. It doesn't work well at all. I almost thumbs it down cause its super hard to try to catch w/e I'm not doing and compare step by step. Also showing the normal one, then doing the non suspension glitch version, had to rebuild, dunno where my mistake is because its so little attention to whatever detail I missed. No clue what it is.
Why I can't use my welding tool like that?
Cuz you didn't put the creation on the lift
My wheels bend inward and I have no idea why
Are you playing in the survival mode?
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I don't get it, was something patched? Every time I do this the top of the spri gs go ape shit side to side and separate from upper elbow which then points up to the sky
You are probably using the off-road suspension. Try to use the sport suspension instead
@@Pauglin I was using offroad
I'll try to make the other ones a bit later.
Am I the only one watching this and thinking "Holy crap, this will destroy the frame rate of my transport truck!" in Survival Mode? :D
Whatever you do don't build this in the survival mode. Some people can have double wishbone suspension in survival mode but for other people (including me) the bearings are too floppy and the suspension doesn't work. And the unecesary complexity is another unfortunate thing that is not worth it
yeah a transport truck (i assume one for the use of crates?) usally is built with no suspension
For some odd reason it pancakes in survival but Works just fine in creative
Yes, in survival the bearings are quite weak and can't support all the stress
@@Pauglin Alright, good to know, I thought I was doing something wrong
The actual suspension doesn't work for me it is as if they are solid blocks and not a shock/strut.
Check if you are not missing any bearings
Wow nice build are u an actual mechanical engineer in real life?
Lol not at all. When I started playing scrap mechanic I was mainly building cars and then I started to be interested in building and tuning suspension in the game. From that I became interested in cars in real life too. I'm just a high school boi not sure what I want to do in life. Same as the others. But as of right now the only thing I can do with cars is change the spark plug lol. Don't even have the licence yet. And my physics knowledge isn't that good either.
And I don't even plan on buying a car right now... I would like to get a house before I start spending money on automotive stuff. My biggest dream is having an offroad track where I can drive utvs, atvs and homemade buggies. Cuz it's not a possibility just to go and drive an utv into the woods somewhere here. You would get into lot of legal troubles for that.
*laughs in triple wishbone*
pffffffff
Quadruple wishbone
Does this still work? Every time I take it off the lift the body of the vehicle just drops to the ground
Put it on a lift and check with your weld tool if everything is connected
@@Pauglin thanks but I managed to fix it, discovered I had my controller angles mixed up lol.
Are these suspension glitches still happening today?
Yes
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how do people remember how to build these
Extremely powerful brains
Why doesnt work in survival mode? Do u got any tutorials for survival?
Because the bearings in survival can't hold that much weight. It's basically like playing on a lower physics quality level in creative
Is there any Way to make it work i survival
unfortunately not really. You could try to move the wishbones further apart to change the leverage on the bearings but that doesn't really solve the issue.
do you need the controller box?
What is "the controller box"?
it doesnt work , wheels at the front are not staying straight , they goes like V
I'm having the same issue in survival...it seems to work in creative for some reason. In survival I get negative camber (tire tops leaned in) and like I said it works in creative just as shown...
i tired this is survival and it doesnt seam to work any ideas?
In survival the bearings are very floppy and it's basically impossible to make it work well in that mode
@@Pauglin so I actually experimented a bit and got it to work had to leash the bearings controlling the tires tilt to the controller it stops tired from over tilting and messing up and let's me camber the wheels :)
What suspension level is it on?
You have to tweak that based on how heavy your car is
bruh my like button is gone its back now so i clicked it
Can i play this game on my laptop?
My specs:
Processor: Intel i5-1035G1 10th Gen
Ram: 8gb
Graphics: Intel UHD
I have no idea. You probably can but the thing is with this game that the bearings lag. So you might not be able to for example create the thing from this tutorial without destroying the frame rate. But you don't have to build things that are as complex as this. I suggest you try joining some discord server and ask there. Probably not mine cuz I don't think people there will be able to help you but you can try for example fenowork's or scrap mechanic mods.
@@Pauglin owhhh ok thank you
I built it in survival and it doesn't work. the suspension does not work in survival
in creative works well
Yes it doesn't. The bearings in survival are floppy and it won't work well no matter what you do
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