There's a reason the front suspension is that way: it's oriented in the same direction as the back. Notice the central free-spinning pipe is to the rear of the wheels. Your new front suspension is mirrored, that's why it bounces.
i actually came up with the suspension design. and youre right, the direction of the suspension actually matters. ive tried putting the same suspension at the front, facing the same way, but the problem is that when you do that, the steering becomes unreliable. the rear suspension is actually inspired by leaf spring suspension with a twist. it works wonderful for the rear. the front suspension is inspired by a torsion bar suspension, and works well too, i just forgot to mention that, for the suspension to properly work, the settings have to be maxed out. because unlike regular straight suspension pieces. it doesnt become rock hard when maxed out, it still retains some wiggle room which is why it works so good. also he made the front one block too wide :P but that doesnt really matter.
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Hi Scrapman, the perpetual thing you have build might not work because you forgot the wedges to stop the arms from directly falling down. In this version you blend in in the Video , there were stoping triangle shaped blocks, so that the weight on the road has a ,,long arm" to spin the wheels further instead of directly falling down.
The bounce of the suspension in the last build actually is accurate of how real suspension reacts, it's the shock absorbers that dampen the rebound and stop reverberations
Hey scrapman, I was wondering with the new trailmakers update if you could make an AC-130 that can fly in a circle in order to fire at targets. I was also wondering if you could use accurate weapons. E.g a tank cannon for the 105mm howitzer, minigun for the 25mm Gatling gun and rocket launchers for the 40mm.
At 7:03, ScrapMan, do you know why the hotdog dragster was having trouble with staying on ground? Because, you didn't add enough down force, in form of rounded corner pieces!
hi, im queen susie, who suggested the suspension design. you built it perfectly other than the fact you made the front 7 blocks wide isntead of 5 like you said, but thats alright for the design. the reason i chose a different design for the front is because the rear design cant be used for steering. the way the wheels will rotate prevents proper steering from working. the suspension in the front works great, the only thing is it needs to be stiffened up alot. same with the rear, though that varies depending on how much load you put on it. but you did a great job following my drawing, i was worried there was gonna be complications. and huge thanks for putting it as the thumbnail, and for the compliments about the detail in the drawing!!
I actually built a semi-truck with a similar look to it(in terms of suspension). It uses scrap mechanics bearing slack for a tiny bit of compression, and then just a pipe above it. Makes a rather good suspension under heavy loads
16:40 if I understand correctly the vertical motion of the wheels gets transfered to the horizontal motion of the back suspension without glitches, fascinating. I thought about making a horixontal suspension but my idea looked like a lever, this idea looks like a clamp you know like a robot "hand". The front suspension looks more like what I was imagining, and more broken...
That experimental suspension was a damn fun idea! That has to get my vote for #1! I wonder what it'd be capable of with further refining and polish...?
12:47 there was 1 single issue, when the rods fall to the right, as you can see in the drawing, they hit a small wedge near were they are attached, that tranfers the momentum into the well, but in your build they swing all the way until they hit the next rode to them, so there is not conservation in momentum and therefor why it didnt work
The last one is likely based on F1 suspension. Because they don't have room for much suspension vertically they use a set up that transfers it to the horizontal and use the leight/width of the car to fit the suspension.
Details that Scrapman missed: 1. Hotdog Dragster - Missed the thruster (I assume the drawing meant for that to be the only engine) 2. Perpetual motion spinner - Missed the wedges that limit the range of the rods movement in one direction. As for the suspension, no details missed, however I believe it would behave better with a body on top of the chassis, as the body would limit some of the upward movement while still allowing the suspension to do its job.
Need a second go on the perpetual motion wheel.. longer rods and a stop at 90’. The 90 stops wer critical to hold the mass out to the side as far as possible
That suspension looks quite similar to some F1 compact setups I have seen. I don't have any photos or reference other than what's inside my head, but horizontal suspension elements are the thing in those very low profile machines.
The suspension design is a modified version of a fairly common tank suspension setup, with transverse springs acting in compression... only modified for a truck. The extra pipe connection in the back looks like a sway bar, which is something I've been trying to figure out how to make in Trailmakers. That's so cool!
That suspension is kinda cool, never seen something like that before (im somewhat "qualified" b/c I like building/ playing with custom suspension, even made my own weird offshoot of double wishbone)
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That last one is suspension was a design with a "sway bar" IRL your car has one. its a supper cool system that reduces role when you turn and it is purely machinal. I agree it was acting strange in that setup though.
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The suspension on the last car just needed to be upgraded and stiffened up more and the linkages needed to be longer because as you stiffen the suspensions thay get longer which makes all the linkages flex
I think the perpetual motion machine might not have worked because the rods weren’t heavy enough, the rods need to be heavy enough to move the other rods plus the weight of the circle
I think with the suspension build, the 3 axis elbow piece where the steering connects should be pointing up, that might help with the steering, and also give the build the intended forward rake.
on the the perpetual motion there was a slant to stop the long things from moving too far which causes the wheel to gain momentum from the falling sticks
The suspension in the last creation seems likely based on a volkswagen beetle. Suggest using higher settings in the future for that. And FYI, the entire front suspension most likely had to be a block higher. Anyways, thanks for the entertainment
Hamburger would definitely be a flying saucer. Imagine one hovering over a farm, abducting cows, and launching spinning pickle slices to make crop circles.
hmm the motion machine. you forgot the "stop bars" on the wheel to limit the range of swig. right now both sides are "in balance" but on the machine and drawing, 1 arm is supposed to stop straight out creating the imblance... remember.
Scap you realize there is a round corner peice now right been in the game for a minute now could've made the hot dog even more round also you for the thruster out the back
I noticed something with the plastic that might have been an issue. If you noticed, the blue plastic on the left side of the vehicle does not go out past the side of the chair, unlike the other side which seems to go out one past the chair. I wonder if that's why the steering wasnt working properly, but the front plastic T shape looks to be 5 blocks wide while ScrapMan's is actually 7. Besides that this suspension is awesome and kudos to the designer of it.
I think you did not faithfully build the perpetual machine schematics. Each arm is supposed to have asymetrical stoppers so that it only has liberty to lean backward.
Not to take away from the graphic, that was done so well, but it's pretty easy to see why that would not work. There is way more weight on the left side pretty much at all times.
for that last suspension one i think if ya added a contoler to one or two of the bearrings with an angle of pi/180 rads then you could mabey fix the flexing issue
Scrapman if you look at the animated video you may notice blocks on the same side as the rods and the blocks hold the rods in place instead of flopping like a fish out of water, when the rods just drop all the weight goes to the bottom and prevents it from doing anything.
Hats off to the person that made the perpetual motion animation! That was sick
Also, it's a shame Scrap didn't realize that he forgot the wedges, which were the one thing he needed to get the wheel to work
@@DeadBread. The drawing didn’t have it, so why would the build? Its ydib lmao
@@_Z_D the wedges were there, just not as crearly
@@mayonasepizza ohhh right i just saw, my bad then 😭 but i can see how scrap missed it since so did i-
@@DeadBread. i don't think it would work on scrap mechanic anyway :D
There's a reason the front suspension is that way: it's oriented in the same direction as the back. Notice the central free-spinning pipe is to the rear of the wheels. Your new front suspension is mirrored, that's why it bounces.
i actually came up with the suspension design.
and youre right, the direction of the suspension actually matters. ive tried putting the same suspension at the front, facing the same way, but the problem is that when you do that, the steering becomes unreliable.
the rear suspension is actually inspired by leaf spring suspension with a twist.
it works wonderful for the rear.
the front suspension is inspired by a torsion bar suspension, and works well too, i just forgot to mention that, for the suspension to properly work, the settings have to be maxed out.
because unlike regular straight suspension pieces. it doesnt become rock hard when maxed out, it still retains some wiggle room which is why it works so good.
also he made the front one block too wide :P but that doesnt really matter.
@@aprcktiplaal9293 you are a genius
@@aprcktiplaal9293 I also personally think it would work well reversed tbh.
So the front suspension in the back and visa versa.
@@tropicalvikingcreations it could, I'm not sure
@@aprcktiplaal9293 are the suspension pieces in SM progressive or constant spring rate?
the hotdog should have had a thruster instead of an engine 6:40
That was what I was about to say
Was about to say that haha
BURGER TANK
Yes
i was just abou to write that
That super epic suspension car drawing was so accurate that you can see where Scrapman made the mistake in the build.
Where?
he didnt. other than making the front one block wider he executed it perfectly
17:02
@@mgsmgs526 nope, dont see the error there
@@mgsmgs526 where? that looks 1-1
"If there was going to be a car version of a hotdog..."
*The Oscar Mayer Weiner-mobile has entered chat*
Its now known as the Frank-Mobile :(
@@shoresy6927whyyyyy??
@@jamesTBurke because Kraft Heinz, the parent company of the cold cut brand, said in a press release that the new name "pays homage to the brand's 100% Beef Franks as it debuts a tasty new recipe that is more flavorful than ever." The new Oscar Mayer Frankmobile. Atleast officially, kinda stupid if you ask me
Hi Scrapman, the perpetual thing you have build might not work because you forgot the wedges to stop the arms from directly falling down. In this version you blend in in the Video , there were stoping triangle shaped blocks, so that the weight on the road has a ,,long arm" to spin the wheels further instead of directly falling down.
I hope he retries it!
I was going to say the same thing.
THIS. We need another attempt
the editor literally put "i think he forgot the stopers"
editor said that in the vid, he knows this
I was so excited to see the perpetual motion machine, it's a shame scrapman forgot the wedges
The bounce of the suspension in the last build actually is accurate of how real suspension reacts, it's the shock absorbers that dampen the rebound and stop reverberations
That suspension was almost super epic awesome
Bro you should be a top comment and he didnt even heart you 😐😐
@@seek..... yeah scrapman is like that. he hearts extremely rarely
Well looking at this comment section i think your right
Hey scrapman, I was wondering with the new trailmakers update if you could make an AC-130 that can fly in a circle in order to fire at targets. I was also wondering if you could use accurate weapons. E.g a tank cannon for the 105mm howitzer, minigun for the 25mm Gatling gun and rocket launchers for the 40mm.
That would be cool.
Interesting idea. Everybody like this dudes comment so scrapman can see it
Didnt Yuzei already made it??
Though he didnt showcased the circling the target
Honestly, the tank cannon would probably make a better 40mm, and the rocket launcher would definitely make a better 105mm.
At 7:03, ScrapMan, do you know why the hotdog dragster was having trouble with staying on ground?
Because, you didn't add enough down force, in form of rounded corner pieces!
uhhhh this game has no aerodynamics
@@Cookiekopter r/woosh
You mean wedges
@@captainsnekk corner pieces exist
@@pickle879 r/wooooshwithfouros
Please try the perpetual wheel again but with stoppers, really curious if it would work if it had the stoppers 🤔
hi, im queen susie, who suggested the suspension design.
you built it perfectly other than the fact you made the front 7 blocks wide isntead of 5 like you said, but thats alright for the design.
the reason i chose a different design for the front is because the rear design cant be used for steering. the way the wheels will rotate prevents proper steering from working. the suspension in the front works great, the only thing is it needs to be stiffened up alot.
same with the rear, though that varies depending on how much load you put on it.
but you did a great job following my drawing, i was worried there was gonna be complications.
and huge thanks for putting it as the thumbnail, and for the compliments about the detail in the drawing!!
I’d like to see him try it again after seeing this
Out of curiosity, do you have an example of the suspension on the workshop?
@@EpsilonRosePersonal I do have an example saved and even have it in a build I made, I can upload them soon
@@aprcktiplaal9293 Awesome. Thank you.
I have a suspicion that you made a pushrod suspension.
Scrapman is more reliable than my father
Same 😔
You guys ok?
No we are not
I can't relate
True ngl
12:48 hey Scrap, u forgot to include the rests for the arms! I think that somehow balances out the forces so it’s more right leaning.
LOL I was not expecting the bunny car to be posessed like that!
you should re-do the suspension one in trail makers it would be interesting to see how it would work in trail makers : )
It won’t work in scrap mechanic because scrap mechanic doesn’t have bearing blocks
I actually built a semi-truck with a similar look to it(in terms of suspension). It uses scrap mechanics bearing slack for a tiny bit of compression, and then just a pipe above it. Makes a rather good suspension under heavy loads
16:40 if I understand correctly the vertical motion of the wheels gets transfered to the horizontal motion of the back suspension without glitches, fascinating. I thought about making a horixontal suspension but my idea looked like a lever, this idea looks like a clamp you know like a robot "hand".
The front suspension looks more like what I was imagining, and more broken...
That experimental suspension was a damn fun idea! That has to get my vote for #1! I wonder what it'd be capable of with further refining and polish...?
The hotdog dragster is the definition of excellent.
If a hotdog is a dragster, then a hamburger is a DaVinci tank
12:47
there was 1 single issue, when the rods fall to the right, as you can see in the drawing, they hit a small wedge near were they are attached, that tranfers the momentum into the well, but in your build they swing all the way until they hit the next rode to them, so there is not conservation in momentum and therefor why it didnt work
The last one is likely based on F1 suspension. Because they don't have room for much suspension vertically they use a set up that transfers it to the horizontal and use the leight/width of the car to fit the suspension.
im queen susie and it was actualy based off of leaf spring and torsion bar suspensions.
but i didnt know F1 cars use similar concepts to this :P
@@aprcktiplaal9293 you could make an actual working torsion bar with number logic from the modpack, have you tried that yet?
@@outandabout259 i thought about it, but i was triyng to keep it vanilla, so the only thing i could do was the suspension like that
5:02 the best hamburger vehicle would be the davincis tank
I think that last creation with the suspension was based off of the Tumbler from the Dark Knight! Great work! 😎👌🏾
nope, it was my idea. im Queen Susie :P
it was inspired by real life suspensions.
I don't know what car a burger would be, but I would say a Banana Split would be a boat or an amphibious car.
5:03 Hamborgor = Hovercraft :o
The last drawing make's me think cantilever suspension but cursed lol, pretty cool stuff!
Details that Scrapman missed:
1. Hotdog Dragster - Missed the thruster (I assume the drawing meant for that to be the only engine)
2. Perpetual motion spinner - Missed the wedges that limit the range of the rods movement in one direction.
As for the suspension, no details missed, however I believe it would behave better with a body on top of the chassis, as the body would limit some of the upward movement while still allowing the suspension to do its job.
I think the weird suspension is based around the concept of linking the two wheels together for improve "characteristics".
the linkage is actually just a anti roll bar
20:00 You need a steering rack, it will unite the swivel wheels and prevent them from moving in different directions
Need a second go on the perpetual motion wheel.. longer rods and a stop at 90’. The 90 stops wer critical to hold the mass out to the side as far as possible
That suspension looks quite similar to some F1 compact setups I have seen. I don't have any photos or reference other than what's inside my head, but horizontal suspension elements are the thing in those very low profile machines.
“If a hotdog was ever a car…”
*OscarMeyer Weiner:* _Am I a joke to you?_
Oh hey, a new video from scrapman, literally just finish watching his latest one and another popped up, sweet
The awesome suspension is propably rear wheel drive.
i would love to see an asymmetric build again with the new update, i found it super interesting ☺️
SCRAPMAN! You forgot the thruster on the hotdog car! You can see the blue flames at the back of the drawing!
The Bunny Car drawing says : Ears face forward..
Scrapman : "Why the ears are on the back?"
The suspension design is a modified version of a fairly common tank suspension setup, with transverse springs acting in compression... only modified for a truck. The extra pipe connection in the back looks like a sway bar, which is something I've been trying to figure out how to make in Trailmakers. That's so cool!
The hotdog dragster should have a thruster
Props to the editor for the 3d animation and pointing out scrapman's silly moments
That suspension is kinda cool, never seen something like that before (im somewhat "qualified" b/c I like building/ playing with custom suspension, even made my own weird offshoot of double wishbone)
that hotdog looks more like a hotrod! very nice.
Hey scrapman I was your biggest fan but the more I grew up the more I got busy but I was watching your content from 5 years ago on our big flat screen tv I didn't know it's been 5 years since your evolution vid I didn't have an account on that tv but every day every time you upload a vid I always watch it no matter what, you've come so far you were my favorite TH-camr and I still remember your battle with kan of I think battle bots. But man I'm so proud of you have a good life.
Love
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That last one is suspension was a design with a "sway bar" IRL your car has one. its a supper cool system that reduces role when you turn and it is purely machinal. I agree it was acting strange in that setup though.
5:11 what is a burger you say... it’s a BUMPERCAR😂
A hotdog hot road would be pretty interesting imo.
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A hotdog is a dragster
A burger would be a patty wagon
Scrap man brings me back to when I was a little kid, I watched this exact channel
The suspension on the last car just needed to be upgraded and stiffened up more and the linkages needed to be longer because as you stiffen the suspensions thay get longer which makes all the linkages flex
20:05 The rear suspension is great
I love how the editor says what we’re all thinking
I think the perpetual motion machine might not have worked because the rods weren’t heavy enough, the rods need to be heavy enough to move the other rods plus the weight of the circle
I think with the suspension build, the 3 axis elbow piece where the steering connects should be pointing up, that might help with the steering, and also give the build the intended forward rake.
on the the perpetual motion there was a slant to stop the long things from moving too far which causes the wheel to gain momentum from the falling sticks
on the hot dog dragster it looks like there's a thruster in the drawing
The suspension in the last creation seems likely based on a volkswagen beetle. Suggest using higher settings in the future for that. And FYI, the entire front suspension most likely had to be a block higher.
Anyways, thanks for the entertainment
I like it how the perpatual motion mashine has stopping wedges in the desing. Though they have very thin layers and thats probably why sm forgot them
YDIB my favorite Scrapman videos
Hamburger would definitely be a flying saucer.
Imagine one hovering over a farm, abducting cows, and launching spinning pickle slices to make crop circles.
Everyone else: You forgot the thruster!!
Me, the guy who drew the dog: Hotdog go brrrrrrr
I want to see an episode where you make super wonky suspension glitch cars for your opponent, and you have to race what rig was made for you
hmm the motion machine. you forgot the "stop bars" on the wheel to limit the range of swig. right now both sides are "in balance" but on the machine and drawing, 1 arm is supposed to stop straight out creating the imblance... remember.
5:02 if a hot dog is a dragster, a hamburger would be formula 1 hahaha.
Scap you realize there is a round corner peice now right been in the game for a minute now could've made the hot dog even more round also you for the thruster out the back
I noticed something with the plastic that might have been an issue. If you noticed, the blue plastic on the left side of the vehicle does not go out past the side of the chair, unlike the other side which seems to go out one past the chair. I wonder if that's why the steering wasnt working properly, but the front plastic T shape looks to be 5 blocks wide while ScrapMan's is actually 7. Besides that this suspension is awesome and kudos to the designer of it.
The last creation is my favorite. I believe this should be the suspension parts for the cars of the future.
A hamburger is absolutely a bumper car.
The hot dog is missing a thruster that’s why it was not as speedy as a dragster.😂
I think you did not faithfully build the perpetual machine schematics. Each arm is supposed to have asymetrical stoppers so that it only has liberty to lean backward.
If a hot dog is a dragster, a hamburger is obviously a monster truck...
5:03 a hamburger is DEFINITELY a gokart
I liked the suspension the most. It was definitely Super Epic Awesome.
Popertual motion
U know it never stops..
Never stops being disappointing...😢
Yes! Another YDIB !
Not to take away from the graphic, that was done so well, but it's pretty easy to see why that would not work. There is way more weight on the left side pretty much at all times.
You should make the voight V-173 in trail makers
Hamburger is van think mystery machine from Scooby-Doo
Scrapman missed the thrusters in the dragster and the stoppers on the perpetual motion wheel
And the big suspensions instead of the small suspensions in the last build. Nvm they were just compressed.
ScrapMan: And this front section is 5 blocks
Also ScrapMan: *Makes it 7*
for that last suspension one i think if ya added a contoler to one or two of the bearrings with an angle of pi/180 rads then you could mabey fix the flexing issue
Why did you say 1 degree as pi/180 haha
okay, that "π" or "180º" radius thew me. At first I though it was "π ÷ 180 radians", then "π" or "180 radians".
@@bored-co7722 to confuse people
A hamburger would definitely be a bus. big, large, full of sauc... people, you'd have a double decker, a triple decker even !
Scrapman if you look at the animated video you may notice blocks on the same side as the rods and the blocks hold the rods in place instead of flopping like a fish out of water, when the rods just drop all the weight goes to the bottom and prevents it from doing anything.
On that last build, I don't think the front wheels were meant to be powered.
"If there ever was a car version of a hot dog..." Have you never heard of the Oscar Meyar hotdog mobile?
Lmao I feel like the bunny ears were the main thing needed
props to the editor for putting that animation at 8:32
the perpetural motion device has exacly twelve so good job you got it right :D
The car that best fits a burger is a volx wagon
The hamburger is a Volkswagen Beetle.
Vote for rebuilding the perpetual motion machine accordingly!
watermelon as an omniwheel!
5:04 rally racer hamburger 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
you didnt made the perpetual wheel wrong you just forgot to add the most important part
those rests on which the arm collides
5:01 I think a hamburger would be a monster-truck. :D
8:58 Scrapman you forgot the wedges that the rods are meant to be stopped by
That suspension system is awesome.
I thought the hotdog was supposed to have a thruster, not an engine