MG ZST Owners Review after 15000 kms - Are these cars built to last?
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Are MG Cars reliable? Some experts say they are made of cheaper materials and are not really built for long-term use...
So are the cars of cheaper brands such as MG, Haval, LDV, Chery and similar budget-friendly Chinese car brands gaining their shared of Australian Car Market are really not MEANT to be particularly robust and long-running, built from cheaper parts that will fail by design a lot sooner than those of the Japanese and European car brands?
Let's drive around, looking at some facts and insights!
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00:00 - Topics Preview
00:32 - Intro and Context
02:07 - MG ZST at 15000 Kms
03:37 - What people say?
06:00 - Bulk Production
07:00 - Built FOR China?
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Coming up to 15000 in my ZST and so far no problems and as good as the day I bought it. A friend has similar car with almost 85000 kms, due mainly to country driving, and also no issues. I think that if you look after a car, any car, it will reward you with reliability. Another point is that, should you have any issues with any car, take it back to the dealer. Don't trust your backyard mechanic or try sort out the problem yourself. The warranty on any car is there for a reason, use it if required.
Yeah when it comes to mechanic, etc, I'm of the same view. Service the car regularly, don't do anything particularly stupid, and it will be fine.
bought an MG 5 no problem here @@ValueCarsAU
Finally got mine yesterday, I’ve only done 300km so far but I’m loving it! What a lot of people do not realise is that the motors in the two top of the line zst’s is actually a General Motors unit. Last year it was voted in the top 10 motors in the world! You can find them in all Chevy blazers in the USA. Tonight I went to get dinner and my son was begging me to take the wrx but I honestly preferred to take the mg! It’s a very nice comfortable car to drive and I’m loving just relaxing and getting places rather than having my spine rattled and having everyone trying to race me at every set of lights. I’m really happy with my purchase
Happy for you mate, and wow - 300 kms in ONE DAY? 😁🤦♂️
@@ValueCarsAU haha yeah, it’s just Over 100km to work and back and then I took it for a nice drive down through the National park to Wollongong and back. I had to see how it handled the big hills and twisty turns haha
its actually not a gm motor, sorry
@@brook280 lol yes it is. It’s a L3t block
it was built with the help of gm, but not a gm engine @@Mayh3m-inc
I have mg3 2021 bought new , now approaching 18,000km , so far very good , I change oil and filter every 5000km myself as mechanic . Will change auto trans oils and coolant etc very often aswell , my attitude is frequently changed fluids and respectful treatment of the car by way of how it’s driven and what’s done with it should give it the best and longest life possible .
And that's probably a healthy attitude, especially if you're a mechanic, so things are cheaper and easier for you to do yourself. Obviously in your hands the car will outlast some more established brands out there. Problem is - not everyone is like you and we kinda need to look at the median line of an average consumer and car use.
Thank you for all of your videos and info on the MG ZST I am finally ready to buy my first brand new car and it will be the essence. Have a wonderful Christmas Dimitri.
Merry Christmas to you too Lynette! Have you test driven Haval Jolion? Just to cover all your bases before locking in the choice of ZST?
Got mine recently here in philippines, just viewing your video. 😊
Congrats on your new car, hopefully you'll enjoy it!
I think the saying is not to combine business and pleasure! Good video once again - definitely need a 50k video
I'm sure I'll check in with you on ZST many times before we climb all the way to 50k mate! 😉
Cant talk for MG but Haval have been in Australia for at least 7 years and seem to be still good with 100k. As far as build goes and side impact Australia has very strict rules unlike other countries and for the H6 to get a 5 Star Ancap rating speaks volumes of the safety of the car. I know the latest Honda HR-V only received a 4 Star Ancap rating.
I've heard something funny like - safety rating in stars for these cars is obtained outside of Australia but advertised here as such, conveniently not always mentioning the ANCAP specifically - i.e. not legally breaching anything since they didn't tell you it's "ANCAP", you just assumed it was.... Meaning - are these "5 star safety rated", OR are they actually ANCAP rated? In any case, value for money remains what it is, very high.
Good on you that you have done your research. My. Friend has bought a MG zst and her husband has WV Tiguan, somehow he prefers to drive her car than his own, except the entertainment of MG is a bit lag.
Entertainment in MG sucks, full stop. BUT. I've always said that Tiguans of the world are WAY WAY overpriced for what they are, especially when you compare them to something a bit closer in terms of quality etc like Haval H6.
I have problem with the pedal being far to the left compared to my past auto and my present Colorado auto
Do you find this a problem
Hmmm interesting for you to point it out and I guess I can't compare as I've no idea what it's like in Colorado. So no, I personally don't have the same problem mate.
Hi again friend ,
Logical video again from you & I'd just thought I'd briefly comment on my MG HS & it's general wear & tear .
Still very pleased with Media update , possibly not great but a lot better & as you know UK weather can be harsh ( mud / snow etc) so had a mechanic friend inspect mainly the underside of my car & he was very impressed with the obvious zero corrosion etc , all good certainly better than other mainstream cars here eg Ford / Vauxhall ( Holden with you I think ) so I'm hopeful of decent build quality !.
Anyway , cheers again & I'm now away to scrape the ice of my car ( -11C ). Lol
Hi Lachie, luckily the weather has got better saw a lot of posts on FB that the washer pipes had frozen and the fuse had gone. Have had no issues with the MG HS Exclusive and yes I’m getting used to the DCT and hopefully my MPG increases once I reach 1000 miles on the clock.
Hey Lachie, I think you guys have it much harder over there in terms of what the car needs to endure because of the changing seasons and rough weather. We don't have that, which automatically increases longevity and ease of upkeep for any car - MG included.
Booked zst essence on Sep 2022 from MG brighton, estimated delivery was before Christmas. Not delayed by atleast 2 months. Is there anything we can do to improve the wait time?
The delivery time on any cars is haphazard and reliant on manufacturing and shipping. The current lockdowns in China due again to Covid pandemic is not helping matters.
Kesav are you based in the UK or Australia?
I assume you are based in UK mate, but in any case - I'd go and have an honest chat with your dealer. I assume your deposit is refundable? Just check if any similar class and price range car brands will supply what you want quicker. Europe has a massive choice for brands other than MG. Don't forget that we talk here about MG and Haval to a major extent because we have nothing else "value for money" to choose here in Australia. You in UK might?
@@ValueCarsAU No, I am based in Melbourne. I had a chat with my dealership. Apparently, the parts for the sunroof is hard to source. They are hoping to ship it my mid Jan. It takes 6 weeks for shipping and a fee weeks in Customs. Its not looking good.
"Planned obsolescence" tend to work very well where the market has a few competitors. For example, the (life-time?!?) transmission fluid has not been in service package and maybe affected the warranty in some cases. In terms of design, A drain plug dismissed so far.
Not sure what these specifics are, other than trans fluid obviously.
I’m looking at buying either an MG Hs vibe or a Jolion Lux. Both are about $30,000 and seem to be similar size internally, both have a 1.5 litre engine. Which one would you buy after reviewing and owning the cars?
I think HS and Jolion are in slightly different categories - HS larger, Jolion smaller. More accurate 1:1 comparison would be Jolion vs ZST, so it's honestly hard to compare or recommend like this... BUT on the balance of things, if you're after size on the road and space for the passengers, HS is probably better, and if you're after value for money and getting a lot of extra conveniences of life that "Vibe" model would never give you - Jolion Lux would be much better.
Isn’t new RX5 not yet available in Australia?
Export quality maybe a thing but I’d trust the MG SAIC brand as much as I’d question the folklore that exists around other brands that have become mainstays in our evolving market - in the 80s using a loophole in tax on imports we got commercial hatches from Japan that attracted innovative but really unsafe light cars into our market that sold well because new and cheap. Whilst an MG3 might lack latest safety gimmicks like lane keep assist these are much better cars yet even Wheels Australia sticks a buy a Suzuki Swift new/used as recommendation not to buy the 3 in their mag as the 3 is Chinese - hmmm me thinks sales figures show Aus buyers see value and warranty plus a good looking light car with a NA 4 cylinder 1.5 and despite dated 4AT it meets a gap in our market hence MG sales on up and up 👍
I don't trust mainstream media recommendations, full stop. I also became more and more disappointed with the Australian mainstream car review outlets, as they are all on payroll and have a very limited angle and view at the cars. Not pretending to be a specialist, I believe I've given people more honest insights as the other privately owned international channels do... Sales figures vs. the number of complaints from real users are the only things that count.
I know this doesn't pertain to your current video, but I was just wondering if you knew of any current stock issue regarding MG in Melbourne at the moment. I've got a car broker trying to source an MG ZST for me and it's been more than two weeks and they still haven't been able to get a price due to stock issues. Was just wondering if you knew anything about this.
Sorry mate, I don't really have any direct connections in MG and don't know of any particular stock issues. Why are you so set on MG ZST? If they can't get it for you - I'd shop around.
@@ValueCarsAU Thanks for the assistance, I’m going to contact the dealers tomorrow. This is my first car so I’m a bit green. I’m hoping to get the ZST as it’s a great looking and affordable car that has all I want in a vehicle and will last me a long time.
Hi
Iam interested in this vehicle as I’ve recently had lumber back surgery and I need a sml suv for seat height to enter & exit. Iam 58. My son is very sceptical particularly about motor and sustainable. I live in a beach side town nsw. I drive to work and town. Mostly 10,000k a yr. Occasionally go away weekend, but not more than 300k.
What’s your opinion on the motor please. I currently drive 2019 accent Hyundai. I’ve always had Hyundai. My previous Hyundai was a Tuson Highlander which had to be sold for divorce reasons in 2019. Thankyou for your opinion
Cheers
Kerrie
Hi Kerrie, thank you for commenting.
If you want to sit higher, I suggest that you take a look at other options, such as Haval H6 (the one I drive), rather than something like MG ZS as while being technically a "SUV", it's not that high, and feels more like a very slightly lifted car.
I strongly suggest that you go sit in some of those cars at the dealerships - within your price category and decide what's right for you. If e.g. Haval H6 is slightly more expensive than you'd like (comparing to MG ZST), you could look for a slightly used one with plenty of warranty remaining and very low kms on the clock - again, like the one I'm changing for a Ute.
That would likely fit into your budget - just an idea, especially if you like something like Highlander (which would be definitely higher than ZST).
I know for a fact that for a car to be legally registered in china it has to be less than 15 years old and has less than 600kkm on the clock, anything beyond must be written off and scrapped. And this rule applies not only to Chinese made vehicles but land cruisers sold there too so cars made in china aren't meant to last forever. And about MG , SAIC does make and sell LHD version MGs in China but their sales numbers have been negligible compared to their export numbers.
Good insights, thank you!
Interesting video. I've just ordered an MG HS. It's a step up for me as I currently own a Dacia Duster which is one of the cheapest you can buy here in the UK. The Duster has made me change my mind about cheap cars as it's been the most reliable I've ever owned, much more than any other expensive car I've had. I hope the HS is equally as reliable and anyway,here in the UK you get a 7 year warranty with them.
Hey mate, I think that these cars are very good value for money and they will "last", probably not less than some other manufacturer's car would in other equal conditions. There are some shortcuts that the maker takes, clearly, to make these cars for mass market and cheaper production, but overall they do a very very good job.
@@ValueCarsAU Yeah, I agree. The manufacturer will take shortcuts on some things and probably things will break sooner. Hopefully the car I get will be ok and the 7 year warranty settled my nerves a bit with it. 🤞
15000km is short to know about the resistence of the car, but still is good feedback.
The MG4 in EuroNcap crash test had 5 ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️on crash test. At least in safety maybe they didn't cut corners...
Most of my reviews are "experience in progress", not a conclusive verdict
@@ValueCarsAU Thank you for your comment. I did understood that your work is in progress...
I'm from Portugal trying to learn something about this electric chinese car thing...!!!
I'm looking for a car for my wife, and MG4 is also good priced here, with 7 years warranty.
But still, I think who is buying it will lose a big part of their money when resale it.
Mines at 25000 km with not a single problem. They are selling like hot cakes in the UK.
1. Most modern cars are not really built to last past the warranty anyway, i will be happy if mine survives longer than it's 6 year warranty.
2. It would be a challenge to find any car manufacturer that dose not use a lot of Chinese parts, especially in European and American brands.
1. Really? Based on what data?
2. This is probably absolutely true
In china, the ZST is sold as Roewe RX3
Great to know, thank you!
I’m so torn up with trading in my 2019 Mazda 3 for one of these! I’m scared if they won’t be as reliable as Mazda or hold up as long 😢. But I really would like an suv I’m sick of a low ride height and these cars are affordable enough
Hey I think if you were to be scared about anything, it's just the resale value. Because Mazda would keep its value better than MG in the modern age (sadly). But out of the gate a brand new ZST would be cheaper, more luxurious and we all live only once. That's a factor everyone forgets. 😉
Mazda build quality is superior to MG. But it’s your money, and everybody is entitled to find out the hard way.
Try driving both of themselves yourself as opposed to what others think. Personally I’d pick Mazda, but you might prefer the MG, after driving it. Don’t always go on resale value. It’s important you enjoy the vehicle. The philosophy of this channel is quite good.
Apple products are made in China but we buy those products with our eyes closed so wuy not these cars.
Exactly my point. Slightly different industry though.
"Singing Machine" is correct. Domestic cars are not designed to last.
The Chinese definitely have different grades of manufacture. The highest being export quality. Any vehicle leaving China will be the best quality they can afford. This doesn't mean the quality is good as say Japan but it will be better than the US. I have been in factories in China where 2 grades of gearbox bearings sit side by side, premium for export assembly cheap for domestic. This penny pinching extends right down to the quality of screws.
No one should ever buy things direct from China based on price. It should always be on quality otherwise you get precisely what you pay for, which is junk. The factories will even tell you this, it is the Chinese way.
Having said that, with respect to export motor vehicles; they are the best that they are capable of, they are definitely not trying to cut corners.
Merry Christmas to all.
Great insights Darron, as always, thank you, and Merry Christmas to you too my friend. I might do a video that "compiles the insights" from e.g. Russian channels that take these cars apart and give us a lot more rough and honest view on the quality and longevity of what they see from Chinese "export". Do you think it would be an interesting perspective for our audience and you specifically?
@@ValueCarsAU You might be onto something there. Not just the Russian car videos. You may find that there is an appetite for Russian stories. Our Chinese company is a big seller into Russia and the things they report to me are nuts, real wild west stuff.
Just be careful how you say things. Starting with the car teardowns is good. I will certainly watch it.
ok, anyone who has lived in China or deal with Chinese know this. Chinese cars look good and some are actually pioneering designs but that's where it stops. no money is spent on engineering (drive train and engines are very low tech) and cars built for looks. Chinese do cut corners as price and return is king always over quality. However if you are like me and trade caRS EVERY 4-5 YEARS, maybe its a great value proposition selling before warranty runs out???
Yes, on the balance of things, unless you plan to run the car for 10 years and then expect to sell for at least half its value (like Hilux) Chinese offer unbeatable value for money (and I'm not necessarily saying - SAIC/MG by the way....)
Isn’t it 7 years unlimited km warranty?
Yes it is
Good luck with what 😂
Mg or Hawal for my wife ? If MG then ZST or HS ?
Check the channel, I've reviewed all of these cars, including Haval Jolion vs MG ZST. Respect for respect man.
Try RX5 2023
@@upekwijerathne5957 we don't have this in Australia
@@LawlessRaafay Will soon be there ... just wait .. don't hurry to buy ZST coz it's Really bad in performance and overall fit and finish also.
@@upekwijerathne5957 I drove Kia Sportagw Disel 👌 only issue is dealer gave me 12-18 months time lol. Don't know why cars are taking too long to reach Australia
South Korean cars where looked down on at 1 stage. Now in my opinion, Kia and Hyundai have priced themselves out of the regular family buyer because they are considered very good.
But what's "very good" mate? My Haval H6 is very good AND within very reasonable price range. KIA has obviously improved its cars over the years, but the prices went so high up not because they became some amazingly good or value for money - go sit in a Kia Sportage and enjoy all the plastic you get for 50k - they just became more arrogant, like Toyota etc.
U can't compare kluger with Zst or Haval. It's like comparing CLA45 AMG with Holden lol
@@LawlessRaafay it was like that but toyota has fallen way behind.
@@darrennorth7987 as in ?
Canada has no Chinese cars right now. The Gov is very protective of our almost non-existant auto manufacturing business.
The big 3 American brands are still manufacturing here.
So I am waiting to see if they will arrive on our shores soon.
Good quality and good value will allow the Chinese brands to capture market share. This was Japanese and Korean strategy.
The Koreans made a few initial mistakes with low quality models and this actually set them back. If the Chinese focus on value price and reasonable good quality they will win. American brands are over priced and not always the best quality. The Germans are just over priced and they are not going to be able to make anything in Europe as no Russian energy will be available after this conflict. Europe is screwed badly. Watch Russia make a high quality car in the near future.
Very interesting insights, I had no idea a country like Canada would have such a "retro" stance on foreign products including cars. If they can keep domestic/US affordable - great! Who cares about China then. But if they don't, then it's a problem. Plus, this typically results in a monopoly-style market where consumer always gets the worst deal... And no, I doubt that Russia will make high quality cars mate, sorry. But they are smart enough about allowing friendly (and even not so friendly! lol) imports.
@@ValueCarsAU Thanks for the response. Canada has a number of monopoly issues they don't like to talk about. Airlines, telecom, Rail, Auto manufacturing, Banking, .... not as free as advertised.
I will beg to differ on the Russian car. It may not be Lada but I believe it will happen. In the Western countries we said the same about Japan, Germany, Korea and now China. All wrong !!! If you know history you will understand the future. Take care mate. The channel is great!